1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we doing well? That's good 4 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: us too. It is our number two here on the Drive. 5 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: As the afternoon has turned into the evening, one more 6 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: hour to go. You know what that means. 7 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: It's been a good week, dude. 8 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 4: It's been a great week. 9 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 3: Hitting our strive. We're getting a bunch of bunch of 10 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 3: new listeners out there. Last segment of the week, let's 11 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: go absolutely Welcome to the game coming. 12 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: You know, much like John McClain and die Hard Welcome 13 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: to the party, pal. You know, if you're someone who's uh, 14 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: who's just don't say the next word after that and 15 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: we'll get thrown off air. 16 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: Uh. 17 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 18 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: It's been a good week of shows, all in anticipation 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: of what is hopefully a great game Sunday night. And 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: as we kind of started the last hour talking about 21 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: kicking off a massive stretch here for the Pittsburgh Steelers, 22 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: it it could be it could be a few weeks 23 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: before your favorite in another game. 24 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: Quite possible. 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 4: I don't think you'll be against the Colts. 26 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: Could be a very slim spread, especially with it being 27 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: at home and maybe hey, maybe they're due, maybe they 28 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: lay a stinker this Sunday and and that, you know, 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: brings them back down to earth a little bit. 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 4: But I would be shocked. 31 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: I'm with you. 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: You got to go across country against the Chargers. I 33 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: imagine you're build light under again, not massive, but a 34 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: slight underdog. 35 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: Would say, if that game is played today, Chargers minus 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: two and. 37 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 4: A half, that was exactly what I especially after. 38 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: The performance last night. 39 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: And then it is right and then it's on the 40 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: road against Chicago after that, or am I skipping it? 41 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm always bad. 42 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, but regardless, I mean, I you know, it could 43 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 4: be a. 44 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: Pick games. I might pick them over the over the Ravens. 45 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 4: Absolutely. I mean, it's might be Miami on Monday night. 46 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: The next time that you've got kind of what you 47 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: circle is an absolute we're gonna win this game type game. 48 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: It's a it's a huge stretch here for put up 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: or shut up time. And so with that, it's time 50 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: for us to jump back into a little five Star Friday. 51 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 3: We're humbled and excited to be in these five star matchups. 52 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: Five star matchup. Somebody leaving here with the loves not 53 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: gonna be us. 54 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 4: And better not be us. Matt. 55 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Steelers offense against this Packers defense. 56 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: And I mean, am I taking the low hanging fruit? 57 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: Or do we have to start with Michael Parsons? 58 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 4: And I think that guy who really has. 59 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: Looked like he started to get comfortable, settle in round 60 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: to form knock off that preseason because he was kind 61 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: of in a similar status as Cam Hayward, like didn't 62 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: do much in training camp. 63 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: Or the preseason, banged up right. 64 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 4: And then you know, new team, new organization, moving all 65 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 4: that stuff. 66 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: They traded for an injured player, which doesn't happen that much. 67 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: That was like a crucial one, but it was a 68 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: back and like sometimes I can linger, you didn't know 69 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 3: exactly what you're getting, absolute. 70 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 2: Sign me up on this guy. And man, really the 71 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, I think, especially last week in Arizona, 72 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: he started to look like that Michael Parsons that we 73 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: all know he's capable of being. Yeah, you had success 74 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: just a couple of weeks ago against Miles Garrett, a 75 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: talented a talented pass rusher. We were joking you kept 76 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: thereon Rodgers cleaning Cincinnati, Roger Jones was the only one 77 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: to take him down. What's the challenge like this week 78 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: against Michael Parsons and some other uh you know in 79 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: their own right, very talented, accomplished guys along that defensive 80 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: front for Green Bay. 81 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's been a theme talking about the Packers 82 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: is I think they are a well coached unit and 83 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: their defensive coordinator isn't super well known. He's a guy 84 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: named Jeff Haffley. He's in his second season. Change things 85 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: around quite a bit from how they used to play 86 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: defense zone heavy, but they're really fundamentally sound. They've leveled 87 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: up as a defense. We've talked about it before. They 88 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 3: invest They draft defensive players in the first round at 89 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: a rate higher than any team in the league. I 90 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: mean really over the last several years, Golden in Love 91 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: or their only first round picks really out of like 92 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: twelve fifteen years, that aren't you know, defensive players. And 93 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: they're not all still there, you know, some of those 94 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: guys have moved on or retired or whatever too. But 95 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 3: still they invest in their defense with youth and draft 96 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: picks and speed, and therefore you have athletes, you know, 97 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: like nice football players that aren't athletes don't go in 98 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: the first round, in the third round, you know. So 99 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: they have a lot of team speed, a lot of length, 100 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: and oh, by the way, they pick up Parsons, you know. 101 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: And I think you have to mention Rashaun Gary as 102 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 3: the high smith to the Parsons too. I mean, he's 103 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: the up the league in sacks. He was the most 104 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 3: heavily recruited player in the country when he came out 105 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: of high school, goes to Michigan. He was number one 106 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: on all from I don't know, I don't know, but 107 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: he was the five star of five stars, could have 108 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: went anywhere and his first round picking his own right. 109 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: He had a really good year two years ago without 110 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: Parsons having a great year with him. So that duo 111 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: is problematic. That that's the difference in the Garrett conversation 112 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: we raved about. You know, we warned people the rest 113 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: of that Browns d line is better than you think. Well, 114 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: this pair is like as good as there is the league, 115 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: you know. I mean, they're they're pretty awesome. 116 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 4: They they're chasing t Yeah, exactly. 117 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: That's exactly it. I Mean one might be number one 118 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: and the other one's ten or whatever you know, right, Yeah, 119 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 3: Like these guys are as good a bookends as you'll see, 120 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: and that in itself is a huge challenge. And Parsons 121 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 3: is so explosive and he's so competitive. Rarely do you 122 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: see a snap where he takes off his too strong 123 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: a word, but he really plays. 124 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 4: He doesn't much of a low light tape at all. 125 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 3: No, he really doesn't plays the run. Meryll mentioned the 126 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: name Lawrence Taylor, which is a big name, but it's 127 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 3: not the craziest thing I've ever heard. 128 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 4: And if there's anybody who deserves to be compared to. 129 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 3: Them, yeah, right, right, right, And I think where Meryl 130 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: was going. We didn't go down the road. But my 131 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: immediate thought was, I urge people, because it's so fun 132 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 3: go to YouTube and watch any Lawrence Taylor highlights. They're awesome. 133 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 3: If you haven't but a lot of people have seen 134 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: him rush the passer, but there's a couple videos out 135 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 3: there of just his highlights against the run and they're awesome. 136 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 4: Like putting people in the term right. 137 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 3: People tried to block him with like tight ends and 138 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: he's taking them and thrown in the ground. But even 139 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: better was when they ran away from you know, he 140 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 3: would just chase right parallel down the line of scrimmage 141 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: like he's chased a quarterback. Yeah, and just accelerate and 142 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: as fast as anyone on the field. And you'll get 143 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: some of that stuff from Parsons too, like you run 144 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: away from them. But that doesn't mean it play's over. 145 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, So that's where it 146 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: starts with them is that defensive front and another another 147 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: tough task for the Steelers offensive line, who. 148 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: Has yeah, looked stepped up. 149 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 4: Looked improved, looked improved, absolutely. 150 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: Test for the tackles, and the tackles seem to be 151 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: getting better and better. 152 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: They do, and they've had a couple solid tests this 153 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: year so far. Seattle was a very good front. The 154 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: Patriots had some guys that can hurt you. 155 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: Seattle front. I hope people realize now was no Joe, 156 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: It's probably. 157 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 4: It's probably top five in the NFL. 158 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but this this feels like again, ratchet it 159 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: up just a little bit of another level of a test. 160 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 2: You combine the Sunday night under the lights only show 161 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: in town type elements as well too. We talk about narratives, right, 162 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: I mentioned that to you yesterday and today there's a 163 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: lot of you can already if you and I were 164 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: you know, journalist reporters instead of radio hosts, we could 165 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: already write out our articles, you know what I mean, 166 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: just fill in some of the gaps. If Roger Jones 167 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: and Troy Fouton, who play well, limit these guys. Aaron 168 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: Rodgers doesn't get sacked, maybe he gets sacked once and 169 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: that's it. 170 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: They're going to impact the game. I mean, the Miles 171 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: Garrett impact was remarkably low. That's not gonna happen again, 172 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: you know. And frankly, if you played Garrett ten times, 173 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: that's probably his one out of ten sure performance, sure, 174 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 3: you know. 175 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: But this is one of those if you're able to 176 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: have success, Man, the praise and the attention that's going 177 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: to be given to Jones and Fultanu is going to 178 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: be loud on Monday, rightfully. 179 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, this could be a strong case 180 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: for you pick up the fifth year option. Absolutely absolutely, 181 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: And I'm expecting him to be on an island like 182 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 3: he's Anthony Munoz against Parsons, winning time and time again. 183 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: Just limit the damage, absolutely. 184 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely. 185 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: If they don't, though, if those guys end up wrecking 186 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: the game, and and and hitting Aaron Rodgers a handful 187 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: of times. Yeah, then all of a sudden it becomes 188 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: the opposite storyline, right, Yeah, these guys are first round picks. 189 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: What's going on out here? Why aren't we seeing the results? 190 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: How come they're letting these edge rushers wreck the game plan? 191 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: It's a it's a big sixty minutes for Faltanu and 192 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: Broderick as well. 193 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and even if you just look at pressure rate, though, 194 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: Steelers are one of the best in the league. Now 195 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 3: I've said this a thousand times, and I think pressure 196 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 3: rate follows this, but especially sacks is as much a 197 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 3: quarterback stat as a protection. 198 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 4: You've You've been preaching that for a long time. 199 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: I mean, it just absolutely is. There's some quarterbacks that 200 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: don't take sacks. There's some that just know how to 201 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: get out of their hands. 202 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: I mean, so there's some that start like Josh Allen 203 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: that get sacked a lot, and then they quickly learn 204 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: and they harfect get sacked. 205 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 3: Right right right. And then there's the Justin fields On 206 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: trying to pick on him, but he takes a ton 207 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: of sacks. 208 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: Williams, You've seen the improvement better, still not great, but 209 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: getting much better than where he was last year. 210 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: So the Steelers are the best, one of the best 211 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: in the league and pressure rate, and part of it 212 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: because they don't hold the ball very long. I mean, 213 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: they're blocking for Aaron Rodgers is easier than blocking for 214 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson. It just is sure, it's more. It's a 215 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 3: whole second longer or whatever, which is an eternity. It's 216 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: like a second in the ring with Mike Tyson, you know. 217 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: But they have mitigated pass rush well in the past. 218 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: I mean, like when we previewed the Patriots, they were 219 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 3: leading league in sacks. Their pass rusher didn't take over 220 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: or anything, you. 221 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: Know, totally, totally, and I'm looking for more of that 222 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: on Sunday Night from those guys. Second level for this 223 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: Green Bay defense is this athletes. They got athletes, So 224 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 2: I wonder how that I wonder how that relates to 225 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: an athlete in his own right Jaalen Warren. 226 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see this pairing. I think Edrian Cooper's maybe 227 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: the next great off the ball linebacker. 228 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: I forget where I was long. I forget where I 229 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: was listening to you. Maybe it was on the preview 230 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: show with but I remember hearing you say that earlier 231 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: this week that you're like, this guy could be a 232 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: you know, by by this time next year, he could 233 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: be a star. 234 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: He could be a star. And he was you watch 235 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: a lot of college. I mean he was not a 236 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: traditional Jack Lambert, Mike Glenbacker. He was have that overhang 237 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 3: guy that would cover the slots at A and M 238 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: and then he blew up the combine. He's super long, 239 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: and he goes in the early second round, mid second 240 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: round and kind of as a project well sometimes projects hit, yes, 241 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 3: and he's starting to really put it together as an impact, 242 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: all over the field type of guy. And then the 243 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: other dude, Kay Walker is a typical Georgia first round 244 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 3: pick measurables off the charts. You know, you know, I'm 245 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: not big on the word instinct, but instinct and recognition 246 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 3: aren't these two's number one trade. 247 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: Great white sharks have instincts human beings, right, They've got 248 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: to learn, they've got to study. 249 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: You still come out of the womb. Hunt. 250 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 4: You don't pop out of a womb like Luke Keekley 251 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 4: or Patrick Willison. 252 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, you learn how to survive as a 253 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: human the wound. They are I think instincts are real. 254 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: I just don't think you yeah, yeah, that type of thing. 255 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah you cry and things like that. They're out of control. 256 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: But I don't think you hunt running backs or wreck 257 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 3: zone blitzes and things of that. Need you know whatever. 258 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: I want a tangent. But this linebacker group can hunt. 259 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 3: They can really hunt, and they cover a lot of 260 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: ground and they're well coached. 261 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 4: They don't force a lot of turnovers, but they do 262 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 4: everything else. That's what's pretty well. 263 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 3: Three turnovers verse they've turned them all over three times 264 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 3: and they've caused three no turnovers Packer. 265 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: It's wild, I think, particularly for how little that that 266 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: defense forces turnovers. Again, when you consider the speed in 267 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: the athletes that they have on the field. 268 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 3: Right, that's maybe that's the I mean love values of 269 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 3: football pretty well. Jacobs is known as a fumbler. I 270 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: think it's weirder that the defense has only caused three 271 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 3: than the other way around. It's all weird, but still all. 272 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: Right, last piece of this talk to me about the 273 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: Packers secondary were it's the weakest. 274 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: I would say, every step of the way it gets 275 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 3: a little weak. 276 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: Okay, it's a good week for Calvin Austin to be 277 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 2: back in the fold. 278 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: I agree. I think their corners are fine and they 279 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: benefit from those around them. They let Jarry Alexander go, 280 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 3: who is their best guy, but was they couldn't count 281 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: on them and they never didn't have an obvious replacement 282 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 3: for him. I think I said earlier in the week 283 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: that I know they don't have a first round pick, 284 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: but if they did, kind of bet it would be 285 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 3: a corner, you know what I mean. 286 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: Like, if you're placing a bet on what's the Packers' 287 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: first round pick here in Pittsburgh in April of the six, 288 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 2: you're doing a defensive. 289 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: Back, right or now, I guess their first picks in 290 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: the second round. 291 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 4: Well, that's true. Good point. Still, the Cowboys have their 292 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: first pick. 293 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: Safeties are good. McKinney's basically a star. I mean, he 294 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: actually was got Defensive Player of the Year votes last 295 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: year's first year, which was probably a little OutKick in 296 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: the coverage. But he's going on top five safeties in 297 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: the league. You know. But their secondary is beatable. 298 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: If you can protect it's a it's a big opportunity, 299 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: it's a big one. There's there's a lot of again, 300 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of brand name matchups in 301 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 2: this one, you know both sides of the football for 302 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: both teams, and that makes it exciting. U. There is 303 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: a little five Star Friday to kind of set the 304 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: stage for Sunday night. Some of the names, some of 305 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: the matchups that you should be keeping an eye on. 306 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 2: Steelers Packers eight point fifteen under the lights at Akrasher Stadium. 307 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 2: When we return, it is time to go around the league. 308 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: We do this every single Friday. Yes, we are completely 309 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 2: fully focused on Pittsburgh and Green Bay, but there's also 310 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: a ton of other important games across the National Football League. 311 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: We'll discuss those, we'll give some predictions on those when 312 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: we return. Well, Shouler, Matt Williamson. It is the Drive 313 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes. 314 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of 315 00:14:35,840 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: the Black and Goal, Steelers Nation Radio. 316 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: Down the home stretch here on a Friday, We're going 317 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: to go across the league, run the gauntlet of all 318 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: the other games the week eight games in the NFL 319 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: this weekend. But Matt significant news oh Lamar Jackson a 320 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: full participant in Ravens practice today. Okay, of course they 321 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: have a pivotal one Sunday against the Bears. Bears team 322 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: that we've talked about that has certainly arrow pointed up. Yeah, 323 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: and a Ravens team that it feels like can maybe 324 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: lose one more game the rest of the season. 325 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: So this is huge. I know we're going to pick 326 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: games and include the Vegas line, but Vegas has kind 327 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 3: of told us every step of the way this week 328 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: that they expected Lamar. I think it's like a six 329 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: and a half point spread, because there's no way a 330 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: team on a four game winning streak against Hunt Lee 331 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: or Rush or whatever would have been a touchdown. 332 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 4: I mean, Lamar is worth at least a touchdown, maybe more. 333 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly for the way they're constructed now. I still 334 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 3: think the team has some other fundamental problems. 335 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 4: You know, like a lot of other injuries too. 336 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and some other injuries. Even like watching that game 337 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: last night, Oway gets a sack for the Chargers, like 338 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: shot out of cannon. I'm like, couldn't the Ravens use that, 339 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: I mean their pass rushes or yeah, yes, we'll see. 340 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 4: We will. 341 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: I still certainly think that Baltimore is anywhere near out 342 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: of the woods. But getting Lamar Jackson back is a huge. 343 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 4: Boost for them. 344 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: And yeah, the line on that one reflects it. We 345 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: will get to that in just a minute, but Matt, 346 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: we start in Atlanta, where the three and three Falcons 347 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: are a seven and a half point favorite against the 348 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: one in six Miami Dolphins. 349 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: I really don't like how Atlanta's playing right now. 350 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 4: It's a big number. 351 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: It's such a big number. 352 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 4: I don't want to take anything with Miami. 353 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 3: That's a thing games this week. 354 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 4: This is one of those I wouldn't touch with a No. 355 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 4: Thirty nine and a half foot poll right exactly. 356 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: I mean, there's, as we often say, there's six or 357 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: seven really bad football teams, and a couple of them 358 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: like the Saints. I can, okay, give me enough points. 359 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: I'm cool. They play hard, They're just not very talented. 360 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: There's some of them that are just in such a 361 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: bad place. It's like I don't know how I can 362 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: pick them. I mean, and some of these numbers absolutely 363 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 3: reflect that. I wish Atlanta was playing somebody else I 364 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: could pick against them. 365 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: Or that they were if they were six and a 366 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: half point fair, I lay the point still win by a. 367 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: Touchdown, win by a touchdown. 368 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: But you know what, I'm doing on this one, is 369 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 4: I'm gonna parlay it or I'm gonna buy it down. 370 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that might make some sense. 371 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: Or seas it and get that number down a little 372 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: bit and then lay some points with Atlanta. 373 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: I would think Atlanta's smart enough just be like, we're 374 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 3: just gonna give it the Bejon over and over and 375 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: he runs for one to eighty and you'll win. But 376 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: I just don't know if that's about seven and a half. 377 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: But I'll I can't take the Dolphins. 378 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that, particularly on the road, although 379 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: maybe some of those Ferraris will run in the weather have. 380 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: A nice day, and you know right, that's why I 381 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: wouldn't touch it. 382 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: Bengals feeling good about themselves, looking to get back to 383 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 2: five hundred hon. 384 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: Which they were playing somebody else on a. 385 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 4: Long week at home. 386 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: They get the j E t S Jets, Jets, Jets 387 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: six and a half point favorites or Cincinnati. 388 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 3: So watching that Steeler game, or reflecting on that Steeler game, 389 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: I was kind of like, I'm excited to bet against 390 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 3: the Bengals next week. Everyone will think they're back, I mean, 391 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 3: like their defense state and you know that was just 392 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 3: a bad performance by the Steeler d But I don't 393 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 3: know how you bet on the Jets right now either, 394 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 3: no sauce against those corners. It doesn't Tyrod's supposed to start, 395 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 3: but he's not one hundred percent healthy. 396 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's listened as questionable on their injury. 397 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 3: Here Wilson's out, you know, like who does anything for them? 398 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 4: This is another one. So tease the Bengals and the Falcons. Yeah, 399 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: tease the Bengals and the Falcons. Get both of those numbers. 400 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 3: Down a little bit because I think they both win. 401 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: I'd like three and a half, maybe four and a 402 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: half with Cincinnati. Yeah, six and a half's a big number. 403 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: I'm going to take the Bengals, but I am too, Yeah, 404 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 3: if I have. Some of these teams are so bad. 405 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 4: There's some there's some spreads I really don't like this week, Matt. 406 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 3: That's one of the most interesting things I've I've found 407 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: or i've I just don't know a lot about football betting. 408 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 3: I mean, that's a whole different science than. 409 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 4: What we fantasy football. 410 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: I understand fantasy. I think good to fantasy, but like 411 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 3: making lines, I did so understand how. I just love 412 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: to learn you know because, as everyone knows, the line 413 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: is how can I get fifty percent on both sides? 414 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 4: What it is. 415 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: It's not how we truly feel about this game, it's 416 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: how can we get better money feel? 417 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 3: Right? 418 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: Like for example, Matt Yeah, yeah, yeah, you talk about 419 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 2: how I'm a dork with college football. 420 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 4: Historic. If you look historically, by u's lines are never 421 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 4: where they should be. 422 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 2: You know why No, because b YU fans are Mormon 423 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: for the large part, and they don't snort set that's 424 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: the line for BYU games. 425 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 4: They do it. 426 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 2: No game, We're not gonna get b y We're not 427 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 2: gonna get thousands of b YU homers. 428 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 4: So they are all way. 429 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 3: Well like Packers and Steeler fans come out like crazy 430 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 3: more so than Cardinal fans, right. Yeah. 431 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 4: The BYU lines are always skewed in the direction of 432 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,239 Speaker 4: trying to influence the other fan base because they know 433 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 4: BYU fans don't. 434 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 3: Bet it's it's it's that's awesome. 435 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's historic. 436 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 3: You can make you can look. 437 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: The BYU line is either when they're bad, it's never 438 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: as bad as it should be. When they're good, it's 439 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: never as good as it should be. Because Vegas needs 440 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: money on both sides, not just on one side. 441 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: Like it's I to get back to my NFL point. 442 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 4: That's that's real quick. 443 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was laughing. I didn't bring this up to you. 444 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: This can be my we did this, this can be 445 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: my what's bothering me? 446 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 4: For the week? 447 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin was asked about the college football playoff at 448 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: his press conference this week. So much you know, drama 449 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: last year around the twelve teams, It's going to be 450 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: the same this year. And lane Kiffin goes, if the 451 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: College FOOTBA committee should just have Vegas select the twelve 452 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: best teams in the country because Vegas is always you know, 453 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: Vegas is right more often than they're not, and we 454 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: should just let Vegas decide. Okay, Yeah, tell that to 455 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: James Franklin, lane Kiffin. Yeah, back to back weeks is 456 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: a twenty plus points fit. 457 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you're right. 458 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 4: We should totally let Vegas do it. 459 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: Could go wrong, what could go wrong? 460 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 4: The games on the field don't even matter. 461 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 2: You're right, Let's just cancel college football for twelve weeks 462 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: and let Vegas decide who the dozen teams in the playoffs. Sorry, 463 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 2: I digress, It's good. That's what's bothering me this week. 464 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: So what my point is when I was talking about 465 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: wanting to learn more about it, is I just don't 466 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 3: know for these like this Titan game that we're going 467 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 3: to talk about in a minute, Colts Titans. What's enough 468 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 3: of a point? I mean, does it open at like 469 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: nine and everyone's like nine, I'm not even sniffing at 470 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 3: at nine? What if I make it sixteen? What if 471 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 3: I make it thirty? You like, once enough to bet 472 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 3: on these terrible teams and then one you probably know this, 473 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: but do you know the college team that is bet 474 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: on the most? 475 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 4: Ooh? Probably Alabama would be my guest or Ohios, Like 476 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 4: do you know this? Or you just as I do know? 477 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 3: I mean I knew it as ten years ago, but 478 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 3: maybe it's changed. 479 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 4: Ohio State or Alabama would be my first guess. 480 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: It's Hawaii because everyone that loses all day bets on 481 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 3: Hawaii at ten o'clock at night and they're drunk. That's awesome, 482 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 3: had a tough day, but I'll get it back and 483 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: get it back in the dragon. Yeah, I'll have a 484 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 3: bet on Hawaii at midnight after one hundred beers. 485 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: Right, That's why I can betteran advice for you you 486 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: place all your bets before you crack your first cold one. 487 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 4: Okay, that's Funkel West, you keep that in. 488 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 3: The back A good day, I'm gonna double down on 489 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 3: in Hawaii. Yeah, that's hilarious. 490 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense, though, Browns at Patriots 491 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 2: in Foxborough five and two, New England feeling good two 492 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 2: and five Cleveland, Hey, maybe better than they've felt recently, 493 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: coming off with strong performance Patriots. 494 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 4: This is another line that I hate. Seven and a 495 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 4: half New England. 496 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 3: No, I love the points in this one. I mean, 497 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: you know, I'm a great, big time Drake mayfan, but 498 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: I think there might be feeling a little better than 499 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 3: they should. Some of these teams when they're a little 500 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 3: the cart's a little ahead of the wagon or the 501 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 3: horse or whatever, you know, And I guess the horse 502 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 3: makes more sense. Don't put the horse and you're giving 503 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: me more in a touchdown against a team that plays 504 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: defense and runs the ball, I think they keep it close. 505 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: So I'm not saying they win. This was a DVOA thing, 506 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 3: you know, football siders, and now they're ftn. The Patriots 507 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 3: have had the per DVA have had the easiest schedule 508 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 3: in the league thus far, not surprising, but yeah, their 509 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 3: capitalized is gone, and good for them. They also have 510 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 3: the easiest schedule going forward. 511 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: Their next five weeks, like a bunch of one wine 512 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: three win teams. 513 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 4: They get the Dolphins, they get the Jets, they get 514 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 4: the Browns. 515 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 3: And speaking of betting, they're gonna be my favorite team 516 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 3: to bet against in the first round of the playoffs 517 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 3: because they're going to smash all these good teams get 518 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 3: in and then then they're gonna go to Kansas City 519 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 3: and get squashed. 520 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 4: You know, Loo give Matt Calling a shot, like Babe Ruth, 521 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 4: a little divisional rivalry. 522 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: You got this one taking a point too or yeah 523 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 3: over a touchdown. I just think that defense is good. 524 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: I do too, Yeah, And I think you're right. New 525 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 2: England's good. They are on track to make the playoffs. 526 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: They're a little ahead of schedule, and sometimes that jumps 527 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 2: up and bites you when you least expect it. Eagles 528 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 2: hosting the Giants. These two teams, of course, met just 529 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: what two weeks ago on a Thursday night, and the 530 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: Giants upset the Eagles back at home at the Link. 531 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: Philly feeling better about itself too, after a solid performance 532 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: in Minnesota last week, Eagles seven and a half point favorites. 533 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: It's not a game I like either. 534 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: There's a lot of these that I get now. I 535 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: wouldn't the grinch. I wouldn't touch with a thirty nine 536 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: and football. 537 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: Right, And I do think a lot of good things 538 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: are happening in New York, although a bunch of just 539 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 3: got fined a couple of hours ago. But I just 540 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 3: think the Vision game that got kind of embarrassed, and 541 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 3: you're the super Bowl champ, you come back pretty strong 542 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: to squash that opponent and maybe you run it up. 543 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: It wouldn't surprise me, wouldn't surprise me. That's the way 544 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: I'm leaning as well. To Again, I don't love this spread. 545 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: No, I think it's a good number. 546 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: But I'll lay the points with Philadelphia and they'll win 547 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: by more than seven. And you're right, a game will 548 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: they'll clearly be focused and they'll want some revenge. And hey, Scataboo, 549 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: get a boo and Jackson Dart, you guys had a 550 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 2: lot of fun at our expense a couple of weeks ago. 551 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 4: Here comes we remember, here comes the return favorite. 552 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: Like again, I'm not picking on the Patriots, but next 553 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 3: time the Bills play the Patriots. I'm gonna take the Bills, yes, yeah. 554 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 4: And speaking of the Bills, they are on the road 555 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 4: in Charlotte four and three, upstart surprising Carolina Panthers. Buffalo 556 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 4: a seven and a half point favorite, and no one's 557 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 4: over see though. I'm gonna tell you, I love. 558 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 3: This, Okay. 559 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: If even if it was eight. 560 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 2: And a half, maybe even nine and a half, I 561 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 2: think I would still lay the points with the Bills 562 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 2: for two reasons. One, they're rightfully ticked off about the 563 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 2: way they've performed as of late. 564 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 4: Yes, and they're better than that they are. 565 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: And they're coming off a bye week, so two losses, 566 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: two losses and a bye I mean they've had a 567 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: month since they've won. Yeah, And I think I remember 568 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: I told you this story when the Cowboys were in 569 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 2: Charlotte a couple weeks ago. But I've got an old roommate, 570 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 2: great friend from college. Him and his wife live in 571 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 2: Charlotte now. They're they're Commander's people, they're DC people, but 572 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: they live in Charlotte now and they have season tickets 573 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 2: and he does the we always sell one game a 574 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 2: year because the opposing team takes it over well, and 575 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: he was like, we can't decide this year if it's 576 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: gonna be Dallas or Buffalo. It might be both, and 577 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 2: that'll more than pay for our, say a lot of Bills. 578 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be seventy five percent Bills fans 579 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 2: there and Charlotte as well too. Like I said, if 580 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 2: this was eight and a half, I think I'd lay 581 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 2: it with Buffalo. I'll lay the seven and a half 582 00:25:58,720 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: Bills win big. 583 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 3: I was on the fence. If you convinced me. I 584 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 3: did think it'd be a heavy Bill's crowd. I think Dalton, 585 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: who is the starter, though, makes them a better team. 586 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: I mean in terms of who do you have a 587 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: better chance to beat the Bills with Dalton or Young? 588 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 3: I would put my chip on Dalton, but he ain't 589 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: Josh Allen. 590 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 4: Either. 591 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, I just it's been a month since 592 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 2: the Bills have won a football game. 593 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're due. 594 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 4: They're due. 595 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 2: Speaking of being due, are the Baltimore Ravens do Matt. 596 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: They are at home one in five against the hot 597 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,719 Speaker 2: Chicago Bears. They've won four straight one o'clock kickoff at 598 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: M and T Banks Stadium. Baltimore is six and a 599 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: half point favorite. 600 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 3: He certainly can make the same argument too. Like you 601 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 3: talk about team that's due to win, I mean just 602 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 3: to they'd be getting blown out and they're coming off 603 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 3: a bye. They're a lot healthier name its quarterback position. 604 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 3: But in the meantime, the Bears have been winning every game. 605 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 3: You know, they didn't it looked like you know, you 606 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 3: look at this one way back, it's like the Ravens 607 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: will come out of the by, they'll blow out a 608 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 3: bunch of bad teams. The tough part of the schedules 609 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: behind them. Well, the Bears are figuring things out, you know, 610 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: rookie head coach and second your quarterback getting it in. 611 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 3: The Bears cause a ton of turnovers. I like the 612 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 3: Ravens to win, but not by a ton. I think 613 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 3: it's a close game and one they could lose. 614 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 2: I completely agree. I think Lamar makes the difference. Yeah, 615 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 2: but I also think it's going to be fair to 616 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: expect him. He's gonna have to knock off some rust 617 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 2: and get comfortable once again too a few weeks. 618 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 3: He can't be He hardly practiced this week. 619 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: It's not MVP form, Lamar, No, No, you know, hardly 620 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 2: practice this week has been out for a few weeks. 621 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 3: They don't stop the run, well, they don't rush past. 622 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: They've the line problems. 623 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: I also think too, when we kind of talk about 624 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 2: the factors outside of the x's and o's, like to 625 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: use a baseball analogy, they've got to be gripping the 626 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: bat a little tight in Baltimore right now. 627 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, gripping the golf club a little bit tight. 628 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 3: You know. 629 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: I've told you that, Like they say that in hockey, 630 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: when you know when a Alexandrovtchkin's gone six or seven 631 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: games without scoring, and all of a sudden. 632 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 4: You start gripping the stick a little too tight because 633 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 4: you're thinking about it. 634 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: I really need to get one, Like I think they 635 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: know that they have to get this game. 636 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 4: They do, and I think they will. 637 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: But I will take six. I'll take Chicago plus six 638 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: and a half Bears to cover Ravens to win. 639 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 3: Yes, me too. 640 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: Last one in the one o'clock slot here, speaking of 641 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: another team that has to win, Matt, the Houston Texans 642 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: two and four at home against the Niners, who certainly 643 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: have some holes and some warts. But they're five and 644 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: two and they've they've done nothing but win in these 645 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 2: tough spots all season where we thought, here comes a 646 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 2: loss for San Francisco. Houston a two and a half 647 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: point favorite at home. 648 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 3: I don't get this line because I think you. 649 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 4: Would have San Francisco favored, or you think it should 650 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 4: be a bigger line going. 651 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 3: I'm taking the Niners, Okay, so I think they win outright, Okay, 652 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 3: I know it's in Houston, but you said it. I 653 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 3: mean one team keeps figuring out a way to win 654 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 3: and the other one keeps figuring out a way to lose. 655 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 3: And I don't know that Houston's offense. I don't think 656 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 3: Nico Collins is gonna play like who's scary in their offense. 657 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 3: I don't see anybody. They don't run the ball well, 658 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 3: you know, Stroud is sputtering and the Niners are starting 659 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 3: to figure things out. Really well coached team. They're they're 660 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 3: not They're fine on the road. 661 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: This line surprises me too. I understand the desperation spot 662 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: for Houston, and I do think that that carries weight 663 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: in these In these type of matches. 664 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 3: There in real trouble if they lose this one. 665 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 4: Big trouble if they lose this one. 666 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: But this is another one though Matt it's gonna be 667 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: a Bowl game type atmosphere. There's gonna be fifty percent 668 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: Niners fans there. We've seen how they travel. 669 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, and Houston is not one of 670 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: those kind of you know, uh, prevent opposition from invading 671 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 4: your stadium type opponents. 672 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Niners in the points as well too. 673 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm outright as confident as you 674 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: that San Francisco wins. Yeah, but I'll take them plus 675 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: two and a half. Absolutely. 676 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 3: I don't know who i'd take if it was Niners 677 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 3: minus two and a half. I mean, that would be 678 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: tough for Yeah, right, Yeah. 679 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: It's a great point. I might take Houston in the 680 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: points if that's the scenario. Maybe either way, I wouldn't 681 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: hate it if you could buy this up to three 682 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: and a half. Whichever way you're going, tease it, buy it, 683 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 2: get yourself a little but to help there, as Mike 684 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: Pursuda would say, make the points work in your favor, 685 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 2: just put a little more money on it. Into the 686 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: four o'clock slate. Here a divisional matchup in New Orleans 687 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: between the one and six Saints in the five and 688 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: two Tampa Bay Bucks This one surprises me at a. 689 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 4: Little bit as well too. Matt Tampa only a three 690 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 4: and a half point favored against the Saints. 691 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 3: And last I saw when I was picking it on 692 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: Peacock and Williamson was four and a half. So I 693 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 3: mean it must be moving heavily that direction. And I 694 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 3: was shocked. It was my exact words I think were, Man, 695 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 3: I was shocked that this was only four and a 696 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 3: half and that now it's less. And then I started 697 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 3: thinking through it. I'm like, man, Tampa's got a lot 698 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: of injuries they do and short week on the road, 699 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 3: rest advantage. You know. Back to the Steeler thing, they 700 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 3: played Monday night Division game. 701 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: This is something that we should look into. I wonder 702 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: what teams record is the week after playing the Lions. 703 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 4: It's like they beat their physical They beat you up, right, 704 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 4: you know. 705 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: It's like the back in the day, like people would 706 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: always point ot the records of teams after they would 707 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: face the Steelers or the Ravens. 708 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 709 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're getting beat up by Debo, You're getting 710 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: beat up by ray Lewis for sixty minutes. 711 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 4: How do you look the next week? 712 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 3: The year the Niners most recently went to the Super Bowl. 713 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 3: They were a really good running team, typical Shanahan team. 714 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 3: They lost to the Chiefs. Right every opponent. The week 715 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 3: after lost they were oh to sixteen. Week after playing 716 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 3: Niners they lost. They's got run on and beat up. 717 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 3: I mean it was sixteen games, sixteen teams. 718 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: That mean something, right, It certainly does, and I wonder 719 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: if that's some of the factor at play here. 720 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 3: I'm taking the home dog. Are you home dog on 721 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: arrest advantage division game? I bet that pays more than 722 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 3: it loses, But the number does seem small. I mean, 723 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 3: Tampa's like four tiers ahead the Saints. 724 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 2: The only dog that I like more than a home 725 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: dog is Baker Mayfield. He got that dog in a 726 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 2: mat to match the home dog enough play, it would 727 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: comes some of the I'm gonna lay the three and 728 00:31:59,640 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: a half. 729 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 3: They are better than the Saints. I mean. 730 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: One of the things I will give credit for to Vegas. 731 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to sound like Lane Kiffin here, okay, 732 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: but I'll meet them halfway is that typically when a 733 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: line looks too good. 734 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 4: To be true, I know it is too good to 735 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 4: be true. 736 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 3: Hit that one hard. 737 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what Vegas? The game have you've seen the 738 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 2: Vegas Strip. Have you've seen all those buildings that they 739 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: build out there. They're they're they're right much more than 740 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: they are wrong, certainly. But I'm gonna I'm gonna take 741 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: Baker to overcome some of that and in Tampa Bay 742 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: to bounce back against the divisional foe Mile High Stadium. 743 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: This will be a fun one. The five and two 744 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: Broncos host the three, three and one Dallas Cowboys. High 745 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: flying Cowboys offense against a good Broncos defense, struggling Broncos offense. 746 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 4: You take that. 747 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 3: Against the majority of the year. 748 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: Yes, against a Swiss cheese Cowboys defense. Denver three and 749 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 2: a half points favorites at home. 750 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 3: These two games. These two teams have played in some 751 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,239 Speaker 3: of the wildest games of the year too. You mean, 752 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 3: it's true. Dallas just sets up to be a wild 753 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 3: game because they probably the best offense in the league. 754 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 3: I think the culture Cowboys is the best offense. 755 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 4: Vegas over under of the week. Not a surprise to you, 756 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 4: is in this one? Yeah? 757 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: So another I think of pursuit of betting term is 758 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 3: if you think the underdog has a real chance to win, 759 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 3: take the points. 760 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 4: That's what he tells me. All the time. 761 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: Okay, I thought Pursuda says to me all the time, 762 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 2: people who bet money line are dumb. 763 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right right, take the points, just. 764 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 4: Bet more money on it. 765 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 3: And I do think Alas could win this game. 766 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if that full blanket statement of people 767 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 2: who bet money line are dumb if I agree with that, 768 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: but I agree with his logic of always take the points. 769 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: Just put a little more money on. 770 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, just hit it harder. 771 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 4: I guess someone wants to give you points. Take points. 772 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. If you ask me to pick this game, straight up, 773 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 3: I might take Dallas or I'd be really on the fence. 774 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 3: So I'm taking the points for sure. Hmm. 775 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 4: I don't know. 776 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: I just I like that Broncos defense a lot, and 777 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: it'd be one thing if I thought Dallas could run 778 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: the ball effectively. I think they're going to try and 779 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: air it out with Dak and pick and CD Lamb, 780 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: and they've had a lot of success doing that. 781 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 3: I would think Sertain's on Pickens, I would think so. 782 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 2: In the mile high atmosphere there, I don't I think 783 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: the Cowboys offense might struggle a little bit. 784 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna lay the points with them. 785 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,479 Speaker 3: It's a terrible place to play. 786 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: It's a tough place to play, particularly if you're a 787 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 2: team who wants to air the ball out a bunch 788 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 2: and oh yeah, you can ask CD and George Pickens 789 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 2: to run up and down the field for three hours 790 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 2: and fifteen minutes in that you know that altitude. I 791 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 2: don't love it, but I'll lay I'll lay the points 792 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: with the Broncos on this one, last one in that 793 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: four thirty time slot, a game that we've referenced a 794 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 2: couple times here today already. The six and one Indianapolis 795 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 2: Colts the Steelers next opponent, hosting the one and six 796 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. 797 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 4: One of the bigger. 798 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 3: Line, how big is this line have to be to 799 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 3: take the Titans. 800 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 4: One of the bigger ones we've seen so far this. 801 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 3: Season is over fourteen right, fourteen and a half. 802 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 4: Fourteen and a half, and he's favored. I think I 803 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 4: would lay it still. 804 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 2: I like I realized the Cults, they've they've played a 805 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 2: lot more one score games this year than they have blowouts. 806 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 3: The capable of blowing out. 807 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:06,959 Speaker 4: They certainly are. 808 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 2: And the Titans, to me, just I just feel like 809 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: a team that's kind of packed it in already, like 810 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: the proverbial like just gone, the joke that everybody makes, 811 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: like cankun on three, you know, like these guys are 812 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 2: already playing in their offseason vacations, And where am I 813 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 2: taking my wife and kids the second week in January 814 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 2: when the season. 815 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 3: Gets traded next week? Or yeah? Right? Making business decisions 816 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 3: should I play or not? 817 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 4: I hate a number that big. 818 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 2: This is another thirty nine and a half foot pole one, 819 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 2: but I'll lay them with INDI if. 820 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 4: Be mad at you, he would be very mad at me. 821 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 4: Never touched the double digit spread. 822 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 2: This is another one I would try and tease or 823 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 2: buy down to even just thirteen and a half. I 824 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 2: would feel much better about than fourteen and a half. 825 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 3: Because you know Ward's going to be out there chucking 826 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 3: it late. 827 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 2: Absolutely no, He's the one guy on Tennessee that I 828 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 2: trust to not pack it in to still right, you know, 829 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 2: pedal to the medal. 830 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 4: But I don't know if that's going to be enough. 831 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm also going to take the Colts. 832 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: I would not bet it. I don't know what the 833 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 3: number would have to be for me to take the Titans. 834 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 3: Maybe seventeen and a half. That sounds crazy. Though, sounds crazy, right. 835 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 4: I think it's sixteen and a half. 836 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 3: I would take the Okay, what is the magic because again, like. 837 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 2: The Colts could be up twenty and cam Ward throws 838 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: a touchdown. 839 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 4: That's the biggest X factor. It's like the. 840 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 3: TV's playing it in the second. 841 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 4: TV and I have talked about this before. 842 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 2: I hate betting basketball games like points on basketball games, 843 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 2: because you have you have the Pacers minus six and 844 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: a half and they're up, they're up nine, and some 845 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 2: dude from New York at the buzzer chucks up a 846 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 2: half court three. I'm contested for no reason and it 847 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: goes in and like, I could see something like that. 848 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 2: The game has nothing to do with the game. The 849 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: other team's not even trying at that point because it's over, 850 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 2: and it's a definition of a bad beat. 851 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 4: I could see something like that in this one. 852 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 3: Give me over fourteen. 853 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 2: It's a lot one game left to go in this 854 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 2: Sunday slate, it's the Steelers and it's the Packers. We 855 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 2: will preview, we will predict well, I guess final preview 856 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 2: and prediction on the other side. To wrap this thing up, 857 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 2: we Shouler Matt Williamson. You are tuned into the Drive 858 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes. 859 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of 860 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 861 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 2: Here we go, Steelers Nation. It is the granddaddy of 862 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 2: them all. No, that's the Rose Bowl, but it kind 863 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 2: of feels like the Rose Bowl a little bit on Sunday. 864 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,919 Speaker 3: We're really psyched about this game. 865 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 4: Me too. Again, you and I have had this conversation. 866 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 4: It is. 867 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: It's like the the book nineteen eighty four. All animals 868 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 2: are created equal, but some are more equal than others. 869 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 2: Like that is, all games are created equal, but some 870 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 2: are All games are important, but some are more important 871 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 2: than others, and this is certainly one of those. By 872 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 2: the time I've told you this before, like Rob King 873 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 2: and Max, they always crack up at me because I'm 874 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 2: like so calm, so level headed, and then like two 875 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 2: or three minutes before kickoff, I'm like bouncing around. 876 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 4: On the boot. You know me, I'm a jitterbug. 877 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 2: I'm like shadow boxing Mike Tyson, and I'm like, it 878 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. 879 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 4: It could be the fifteen and oh Steelers against the 880 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 4: oh and fifteen Browns. 881 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 3: And still have to work in Dublin. Now I think 882 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 3: about it. 883 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 4: Right behind you, guys, right again, that's another big one. 884 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 3: Like sure, I mean I was bouncer around Doublin. The 885 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 3: place was rocking. 886 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 2: I am very fortunate to do what I do for 887 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 2: a living, and sometimes that gets lost on me. It 888 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 2: becomes mundane and it becomes like work. But not five 889 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 2: minutes before kickoff on an NFL Sunday, but especially in 890 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 2: this one. Steelers four and two, Packers for one and one, 891 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers storyline, two of the most traditional, beloved, supported, 892 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 2: respected franchises, and not just football, but in the entire 893 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 2: American sports landscape. You can go anywhere in the world 894 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 2: and find somebody wearing Steelers gear. Find somebody wearing Packers gear. 895 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 2: I don't care where you are, Matt, the Steelers two 896 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 2: and a half. 897 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 4: Point home dogs. 898 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 2: How are we feeling about this one? And I just okay, good, 899 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 2: let me do this. Similar to what happened to both 900 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 2: of us in Dublin. I think we were both. 901 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 4: I know you were. I was gonna say, I don't 902 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:35,919 Speaker 4: want to speak for you, but I know you were. 903 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 4: I was ready to pick the Vikings. 904 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, to win, and we both went with the 905 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 2: scenes there in Dublin and the crowd and all that 906 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 2: and the energy in the atmosphere. 907 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 4: We both reversed that and went off of emotion. 908 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 3: Picked with my heart instead of my brain A little bit. 909 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 2: I've been saying for six weeks now, don't worry. Eventually 910 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 2: I will pick the Steelers to lose a game. But 911 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 2: I haven't picked the Steelers to lose a game all week. 912 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 2: All week, I've been telling myself, Matt, I'm gonna pick 913 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 2: the Packers to win this game. I'm gonna pick the 914 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 2: Packers to win this game. I got Steelers twenty four 915 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 2: to twenty one. 916 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 3: I just me too. I have twenty four to twenty three. 917 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 2: All the Aaron Rodgers stuff, all the Mike Tomlin off 918 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,959 Speaker 2: a Thursday night road loss with extra time to prepare. 919 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 3: Rest advantage stuff rest advantage. 920 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 2: I think again, if I'm just playing this game out 921 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 2: in a vacuum, I might pick the Packers to If 922 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 2: it's on a neutral field and the Aaron Rodgers storyline 923 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 2: isn't there, and both of these teams played on Sunday, 924 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 2: I would probably pick the Packers twenty four to twenty one. 925 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 3: I quoted a lot, and I should quote it more. 926 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,919 Speaker 3: Marro Hodge always says on these Thursday night shows, never 927 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 3: doubt a proud professional that's been embarrassed. And for that, 928 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 3: I'm just referring to the Steelers defense. You know that, 929 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,959 Speaker 3: I believe in my soul that not only they better 930 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 3: than that, but they're an above average defense. Yeah, that 931 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 3: was the thirty second ranked defense that we saw that night. 932 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 3: I don't see if that's gonna be the case. And 933 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 3: then you give them more rest home all those things. 934 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 3: I think better than the Steelers, I think they win. 935 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 2: I think that's a good way to put it. If 936 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 2: this game was in Lambeau, it's probably a different story. 937 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 4: I think it totally. It was Week one, totally different. 938 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 3: It was next week. But I mean, I just think 939 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 3: that Green Bay is really good. 940 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 2: I do too. I Mean they were my NFC pick. 941 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 2: They might pick to win the NFC before the season started. Yeah, 942 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 2: I picked the We're both after the Parsons trade. We 943 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 2: both picked them to go to Super Bowl. They might 944 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 2: kind of our final and they certainly could. But just again, 945 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 2: it feels like there's some magic. It feels like there's 946 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 2: some as Missy alluded to as well, too, Like, don't 947 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 2: all the embarrassment stuff, all the Aaron Rodgers stuff, all 948 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 2: the Mike Tomlin with extra rest stuff. Also think of 949 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 2: those guys in the locker room too, how much they've 950 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 2: already adored love Aaron Rodgers. They're all going to Penguins 951 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 2: games together and doing all this stuff. They know, those 952 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 2: guys know that for Aaron, this is in all likelihood 953 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 2: his one chance to face the Green Bay Packers in 954 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 2: his career. 955 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, we we we got it. We got to come 956 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 4: through for number eight, and I think they will. 957 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, the the rookie on the team that's Wednesday night 958 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 3: at home with his his buds or whatever, like should 959 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 3: I play Xbox or maybe I'll stick my nose in 960 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 3: the playbook instead this week, you know Or I was 961 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 3: gonna go get a beer with my butt, you know whatever. 962 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 3: Like this week, I'm just going to stay in. Yeah, 963 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 3: do the right thing type of thing, you know whatever, 964 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 3: absolutely and learn to think of those around you. Think 965 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 3: if this was Packers Nation Radio, I might say something 966 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 3: along lines of this is probably the week I'd want 967 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 3: to play the Steelers. 968 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 4: Least totally extra rest an embarrassing performance at least on 969 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 4: the defensive. 970 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 3: In their building on like. 971 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 2: This is the this is the scenario, extra rest off 972 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 2: a bad loss, prime. 973 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 4: Time at home on History. 974 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 2: Right, I'd much rather be playing the Steelers one o'clock 975 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 2: the Patriots at one o'clock on a Sunday. 976 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 3: Hundred percent, Yeah, one. 977 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 2: One million percent. So I think we're on the same 978 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,760 Speaker 2: page there, we will both. Oh wait, what's your score prediction? 979 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 2: Don't twenty four twenty three? 980 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 4: Oh so we're not far off. 981 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 2: No, you've got a little closer one, but I've got 982 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty one. 983 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 4: Hopefully we're back here on Monday recapping victory. And here 984 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 4: we go. We're five and two. We're in a great spot, 985 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 4: and you got to. 986 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 3: Be a nice position to be in, or we're gonna 987 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 3: be or this guy could be falling. 988 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 4: It's deaf con Yeah. 989 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 2: You're only four and three now, and you're staring down 990 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 2: the barrel of another tough stretch. 991 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 3: I mean, we both picked them to win. I don't 992 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 3: think the Steelers can win this game by twenty, but 993 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 3: I think they could lose it by twenty ooh. I mean, 994 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to cover my butt, but I mean 995 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 3: we could. There's a chance we come in here Monday, like, Oh, no, good, 996 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 3: that could happen. 997 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 4: I don't like closing down the show like that. 998 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 3: That's a terrible way to end a good week. 999 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 4: Wasn't somebody tell a funny joke? 1000 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: Right? 1001 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 3: Let me tell you a story about you know, it was. 1002 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 2: A really good week. Thanks to all of our guests 1003 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 2: this week. Thanks to Missy Matthews for joining us today. 1004 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 2: Big shout out to Nathan hanging out with us here 1005 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 2: and learning the ropes and everything, and of course our 1006 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 2: video producer as always, Tyler V mister TV for. 1007 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,760 Speaker 4: Making us look handsome on the YouTube or Matt Williamson. 1008 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 4: I'm west Shuler. 1009 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 2: Take care everybody win loser draw because the draw is 1010 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 2: a possibility as well. The packers of our season win 1011 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 2: loser draw. We will be back here Monday to break 1012 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,919 Speaker 2: it all down with you as always. You know where 1013 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,359 Speaker 2: to find us. It's on your twenty four to seven 1014 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 2: home of the Black and Gold. It's Steelers Nation Radio 1015 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.