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Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space.

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Speaker 2: I have turned off all notifications of social media, and

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Speaker 2: I started by turning off all notifications of my likes

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Speaker 3: Doctor Dominique Broussard, a college professor and psychologist.

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Speaker 4: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. In a

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Speaker 4: All right, lady, we have a very special guest in

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Speaker 4: Cultivating her Space. Isa Watson is an expert in the

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Speaker 4: human connection space, named one of Inks thirty under thirty,

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Speaker 4: as well as a Top one hundred Female Entrepreneur of

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty and one of the one hundred MIT Alumni

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Speaker 4: and Tech in twenty twenty one. Isa is a physical

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Speaker 4: scientist turned social scientist. A Caribbean girl in America, Isa

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Speaker 4: is an entrepreneur, author, skydiver, and classical pianist. She is

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Speaker 4: the co founder and CEO of Squad, the fun way

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Speaker 4: to build a world of your closest friends away from

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Speaker 4: social media. We had Isa on the show a few

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Speaker 4: seasons ago. To be exact, it was season fourteen, episode seven,

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Speaker 4: Cultivating Deeper Connections in Your Squad. But today we are

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Speaker 4: chatting with Isa to learn more about her new book,

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Speaker 4: Life Beyond Likes, Logging off your Screen and into your Life.

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Speaker 4: I SA welcome back to cultivating her Space.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be

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Speaker 2: back with you, ladies.

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Speaker 4: We are so excited. We're gonna have so much fun today.

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Speaker 3: We are looking forward to this conversation and so we

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Speaker 3: are going to jump right in with our quotes to day, which,

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Speaker 3: of course, you know, we were lucky enough to get

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Speaker 3: in preparation, and so our quote to day comes from

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Speaker 3: the book. We have to be more self aware about

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Speaker 3: how the Internet impacts us. I must say that one

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Speaker 3: All right, Hi, So when you hear that quote, and

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Speaker 3: But when you hear this segment.

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Speaker 2: What comes up for you, what comes up for me

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Speaker 4: You just made me think about something I said, and

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Speaker 4: we're gonna circle back to your origin story. But I

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Speaker 4: And sometimes I think that there can be a misconception

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Speaker 4: So I just want to ask you what is what

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Speaker 2: You know, I think that from a how social media

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Speaker 2: And so when you think about, hey, this filter is

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Speaker 2: quite frankly, I think that friendship is a huge component

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Speaker 2: what's happened is that we conflate connection with consumption, and

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Speaker 2: the reality is that ninety percent of social media users,

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Speaker 2: They're not out here connecting with people. They're just like

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Speaker 2: scroll and scroll and scrolling, consuming the content. Right. That

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Speaker 2: I said consume and lert, I didn't like your posts.

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Speaker 2: I saw your posts, Okay, cool, Like I know what's

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Speaker 2: up with you and we're friends. No, Like friendship takes

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Speaker 2: that take investment, and social media has really conflated our

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of data that I present in the

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Speaker 2: And the third of millennials actually say that they don't

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Speaker 2: have one close friend. That's social media. That's living in

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Speaker 2: the digital age and letting it manage you instead of

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Speaker 3: Wow. Oh, that's a lot of data for us to digest.

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of questions. Now, we would like

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Speaker 3: for you to share with our audience your origin story,

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Speaker 3: and you talk about throughout the book you weave in

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Speaker 3: in how you use your own life experience serience to

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Speaker 3: illustrate certain points around social medium. But tell us about

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Speaker 3: what led to you writing this book. So who you are?

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Speaker 3: Who that Caribbean girl in America is that decided to

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I grew up in a big Caribbean Southern family.

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Speaker 2: My dad was this old school engineer where he his

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Speaker 2: philosophy was like, if you can't build it, and you

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Speaker 2: I got my degrees in chemistry and mathematics from Hampton University,

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Speaker 2: So during my time at JP Morgan, my parents ansored

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Speaker 2: so I was like, you know what, I think that

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Speaker 2: we were at an inflection point. So I love JP

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Speaker 2: Morgan to start squad and Squad as you said, you know,

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Speaker 2: I jump out of planes every other weekend. And I

432
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 2: have such a meditative space when I jump out of

433
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 2: a plane because I'm looking down at the world and

434
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: the view is just something that is unreal that you can't,

435
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: like you just experience unless you just jump out of

436
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 2: a plane. And the one thing that I think to myself,

437
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, you see that ground down there. I

438
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: look at autumn ground problems when people got I'm up

439
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: here like I'm chilling, I'm like, I found my meditator space.

440
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: And so but I have to invest in like trying

441
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: a bunch of different stuff to find my joy centers. Right,

442
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: the joy centers are beyond just going to brunch with

443
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: your girlfriends. And sometimes the joy center is rest. You know.

444
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 2: One of the reasons of me and one of my

445
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: ex boyfriends did not really make it is because he

446
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: didn't understand the concept of rest. It's like I don't

447
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: need to be I don't need to have like an

448
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 2: alarm at six am on a Saturday to like be

449
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: protective and get the lunch. You don't to like do

450
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 2: what do nothing? Get new like Nabra, I need rest, okay,

451
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: And so you know, I think that it's the friendship,

452
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: it's defining your joy centers. Those are the things that

453
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 2: I think will deliver you know, huge returns, huge returns

454
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Speaker 2: on people's joy and happiness.

455
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Speaker 5: That is so powerful.

456
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 4: It's like literally real learning how to be a human

457
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 4: like in real life and not for you know, focused

458
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 4: on this persona on social media. And I resonate. I

459
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 4: resonate with that so much. I think about my happiest

460
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 4: moments they're off social media and usually when I'm taking

461
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 4: a fast from social media. So thank you for just

462
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,959
Speaker 4: offering these amazing tips. Now, I said, if you remember

463
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 4: from last time as a point in the interview, we

464
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 4: shifted up the energy a little bit, and we want

465
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Speaker 4: to do that again this time. And because we recognize, appreciate,

466
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 4: and celebrate the multifaceted woman, and we believe that it's

467
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 4: okay to be bougie and classy and ratchet. You can

468
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 4: still be elegant and dance to strip club music if

469
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 4: you so choose. So we want to invite you to

470
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 4: the oh you blatchet segment. So I said, do you

471
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 4: take on the challenge?

472
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's do it all right?

473
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 4: All right, So, just like last time, we're going to

474
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 4: ask you three questions. We're going to share three sentence completions,

475
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 4: and we have a photo hould up of you on

476
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Speaker 4: social media. We actually have one photo today and I

477
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 4: think you're going to love this photo. We want you

478
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 4: to share more context about this photo that we would

479
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 4: not know just by looking at it. So we're going

480
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 4: to jump on into the first question, and this question

481
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 4: is what song gets you on the dance floor at

482
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 4: the club or party. What's that one song where you're like, Oh,

483
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 4: I'm about to go, I'm about to go.

484
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 2: Get on my level? What? Get on my level? Who?

485
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: Get on my level? You lover?

486
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get on my level.

487
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 2: What you know, when I used to like being corporate

488
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: America and people were in a mess with me, I

489
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: would I would blast it and I like, get on

490
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: my level.

491
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it, I love it. I love that. Okay,

492
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 3: what's your favorite hairstyle on yourself?

493
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: Shall Honestly, I think the bob. Like I'm like, I

494
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: haven't worn a bob in so long, and I'm like, oh, hey,

495
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: she's actually she do all the things. She versatile, you know.

496
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: I love the versatility and I love the edginess. And

497
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: I think for a long time I tried to, you know,

498
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,959
Speaker 2: like mask my edginess. But I'm walking in all of

499
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: my truths and if it's too much for anyone, they

500
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: can just.

501
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 4: Joke boom period, just like that, and then vibe is given.

502
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 4: Y'all got to come into Patreon to see this vibe

503
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 4: because it's just it's a body for me, it's the

504
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: healthiness for me. It's just it's just slowing.

505
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: Okay. I see.

506
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 4: Our last question in the segment, I say, is what's

507
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 4: the best compliment you've ever received?

508
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: The best compliment I've ever received, hands down is that

509
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: you are such a vibe. And I love your energy

510
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: because I think that we focus so much on these

511
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: accolades and all the things, and honestly, these accolades they

512
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: have commodity. But when you shift the energy in a room,

513
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: and you shift the energy of a person what they're

514
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: experiencing and feeling in a given day. Honey like that,

515
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, I appreciate you because I

516
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: really just try to show up with myself. But I'm

517
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: not like, yo, let me bring in this like energy

518
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: to the room, you know. But the fact that like

519
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: a lot of people respond to me like that, it's

520
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: just it's very I don't know, it's like endearing to me.

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Speaker 4: You're also really funny. I love key feel like you

522
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 4: should do comedy like you are hilarious.

523
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, when you said that that was your that

524
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: was the compliment, like and I felt that. I was like, yes,

525
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: you are such a vibe.

526
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I tried.

527
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: It's so funny. My mom was like, yo, something study

528
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: from church called me and said you was funny. And

529
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: I was like what, I'm like, are you hating today?

530
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: Are you hating today because you need to go back

531
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: to church and apologize some unhigh words? Please don't hate.

532
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: The total comedian. I see it.

533
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: I see it.

534
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 3: So now we will move to since it's completion. Okay,

535
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 3: if you asked me to cook a meal, I'd make.

536
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: Cauliflower rice, the peas and burnt stage butter salmon.

537
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: Okay, I need explanation. That sounds really delicious.

538
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: That's my dope too. I don't like to eat a

539
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: lot of carbs. I like carbs rock and cheat, right,

540
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: so cauliflowers, sweet potato, healthy carbs, things like that. But

541
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm Caribbean. So we eat a lot

542
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: of rice and peas and green peas, right, and so

543
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: mix that in burnt butter. Stage. So take the stage butter,

544
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: cook the salmon, and then actually I then take the

545
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: butter that's left and put it a little bit over

546
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: the cauliflower piece. Yeah, it's it's it's very easy. But

547
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: it's like super elite, like like I can invite Baraka

548
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: Michell over and they'd be like one of this, you

549
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, and they got their own shots.

550
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: But they will love this.

551
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 4: It's hidden. I love that. I'm like, where are you

552
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 4: located to get ice in? Just in case we need

553
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 4: to meet up for dinner. Because that sounds amazing. That

554
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 4: sounds amazing. Okay, then okay, we got to go to

555
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 4: the East coast. Down, we gotta go to the East coast.

556
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: Girl, Yeah, we got that.

557
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: We're gonna make that happen. Well, this next one.

558
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: Get ready for this next sentence completion isis? So the

559
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 4: sentence completion is blank would make me go from zero

560
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 4: to one hundred real quick.

561
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: The lack of accountability for me, and honey, let me

562
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: tell you, it's triggering as hell as a black woman.

563
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: When we are held to unrealistically high standards all the time,

564
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: we are constantly picking up this lack of other people

565
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: and then somebody will have the caucaciity, sorry, audacity to

566
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: be like, oh like to gas like me to not

567
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: say accountability for the things that you didn't do. Not

568
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm good on that. It's a lack of accountability for me.

569
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: That's it's triggering. And I talked to my therapists about

570
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: it and we're working on it.

571
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 4: But that's right, she said, that's that's a cart.

572
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: For me, all right, our final sentence completion. I was

573
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: really happy when.

574
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: I was really happy when I took my mom to

575
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: The Four Seasons in Nivis a few months ago and

576
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: gave her the first physical copy of my book. And

577
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 2: my mother grew up in segregated schools in North Carolina

578
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: until seventh grade. She like, couldn't make it, couldn't be

579
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Speaker 2: on a cheerleading team because she didn't pass the brown

580
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: paper Baptist. She you know, had you know, six kids

581
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: made it work, you know, and my mom is one

582
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: of those people who the the depth was backed against

583
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: her in a lot of ways. And so for me

584
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: to accomplish what I have, you know, like Hampton Cornell

585
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: and my tea, to achieve the professional heights that I had,

586
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: you know, like de fight, you know, my parents basically

587
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: both coming from nothing. So to take my mom back

588
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: to the place where I like wrote the first half

589
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: of the book and also to take her back to

590
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Speaker 2: the place where I I don't know, I just it

591
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: was just it was very touching and just to see

592
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: her reaction, right, and so I would say, I was

593
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: really happy with that.

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Speaker 4: That is so amazing. And you are just I always

595
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 4: get excited when we get to talk to you. So

596
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 4: you were just the epitome of black girl magic. And

597
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 4: I'm just like, go ahead, come on, yes, so real quick, guys.

598
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 4: So we had this picture, holl whatever, I'm just going

599
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 4: to show it to you and if you can just

600
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 4: provide one in overview of what the picture is for

601
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 4: folks that are not watching on page and then tell

602
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 4: us something about the photo that we would not know

603
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 4: just by looking at it. I'm going to go ahead

604
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 4: and put it on the big screen right now and

605
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 4: take it away. Isa.

606
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you guys found my nudes. Okay, good job.

607
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: So this was actually when I was a newly licensed skydiver.

608
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 2: I am, I'm going to dock on somebody so you

609
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: can see their hands coming from the bottom of the

610
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: frame and I'm flying from the top of the frame

611
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 2: and basically docking and skydavy needs being able to fly

612
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 2: to somebody with not too much force that you knock

613
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: into them, but with the enough course that you get

614
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: close to grab their hands and then you fly together

615
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: as a unit. And so this was when I was

616
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: actually training with one of my coaches who I do

617
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: tunnel with, and I was just practicing changing levels and docking. So, yeah,

618
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 2: it's one of my diving photos.

619
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Speaker 4: What does that even I've never been skydiving? What is it?

620
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 4: What was your first time? Like, were you scared? Were

621
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 4: you nervous? Like tell us something about skydiving that the

622
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 4: average person wouldn't know if they haven't gone skydiving.

623
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Speaker 2: I think the scariest part is like the first two

624
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: seconds of getting out of the plane the first time.

625
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, I had wanted to try it. People were like,

626
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: how'd you get into that? Like when I tell black

627
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: people as skydives sometimes I get a raised of the

628
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: ero like the side. They're like, what does the girl

629
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: throwing out here? Like what kind of people she's been around?

630
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 2: Like what kind of cult we lose her to? And

631
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: I basically, like I said, I always want to try it.

632
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: I tried it. And when I tell you, like I

633
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: looked at my video of my first guy out experience,

634
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: I have never seen my face look more peaceful in

635
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: like the last ten years, Like the level of peace

636
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: and just the way that I was, just the e

637
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: I was just so I can't explain it. I mean

638
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: I went to meditation class for years and I never

639
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: found that level of meditative space in class. And so

640
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, like I think that you know, we

641
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: just full disclosure. We jump off the plane between thirteen

642
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 2: thousand and fourteen thousand feet. We're falling for about sixty seconds,

643
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: deploy our parachutes at about four thousand feet, and then

644
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: kind of fly down, which takes a just navigate our

645
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: pair of shoes down in land, which takes a few minutes,

646
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 2: the joy that I get from skydabb and the mental

647
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: reset that I get from skyttdabb. And my anxiety was

648
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: so high last week for a variety of reasons, including

649
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: like the book, and I just I went skytaban over

650
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: the weekend and I came back and I was like, Okay,

651
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: no more panic attacks this week. I'm good. You know,

652
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: I have it together.

653
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: Wow, that is beautiful.

654
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I this.

655
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: Opportunity to find your joy, to find your peace, and

656
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 3: to know that it's not connected with social media and

657
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 3: that you really are like out here, like living.

658
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: Right.

659
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 3: So as we jump back into some of the interview questions,

660
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: let's just continue to keep in one hundred. You spend

661
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: your time skydiving, that's your joy now right. How much

662
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: time would you say you actually spend on social media

663
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: these days and versus the amount of time that you

664
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: dedicate to living outside of that room, like actually just

665
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: living your real life.

666
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's important to note that I'm not

667
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: a social media abolitionist, Like I'm not like, oh my god,

668
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: social media gotta go away. I'm just more of the

669
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: you gotta make sure you know how to manage it

670
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: so that it doesn't manage you. And from a skydive

671
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 2: in a social media ratio perspective, it is so high

672
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: on the skydiving side. Like so I think I probably

673
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: am on Twitter the most because I'm like looking at

674
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: what's trending. I'm like, oh, okay, Regratu agent Maverige, okay, cool,

675
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: but bet whatever or okay, the people in California like

676
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: this is what's going on with the with the weather.

677
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 2: But like Instagram, I never scroll. I only go to

678
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: Instagram because people my friends dm me and I dm

679
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: them back. I respond a messages on Instagram and I'll post,

680
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: but I don't consume on Instagram because this stuff is

681
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: a toxic place for me. And it's one of those

682
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: things where I think when I say, you have to

683
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: understand what social media does to you. Like honey from

684
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 2: I'm from North Carolina, I love me some from Krispy Kreme, Okay,

685
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: Like it is real cute, it's real tasty, and you

686
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: get you put it in the micrap for like seven

687
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: point five seconds, baby, like yes, but I eat that

688
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: first christ who came donut? Yes? Side christ came going yes,

689
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: But if I eat like four Christmas came donuts I've

690
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: enjoyed every single one, every single second, but then like

691
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: five minutes they I'm like, damn, I feel like shit.

692
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: That is my relationship with Instagram, that's my relationship with

693
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 2: TikTok and most of social media. And so I think,

694
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: for me, I don't want to be consuming a bunch

695
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 2: of stuff where after a while just makes you feel

696
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: like shit, Like that's not my life, that's not my

697
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: real life. And so, yeah, I spend more of my

698
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: Final Squad obviously, but just you know, as a philosophy,

699
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: way more time connecting with my friends. I'm talking to

700
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: my friends. I talk to my friends every day, you know,

701
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 2: like at least five of my friends every day.

702
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 4: How do you balance because you're so busy, you do

703
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 4: so much. How do you balance entrepreneurship, growing your business,

704
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 4: your own mental health? How do you balance that? And

705
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 4: as you answer that, I'm going to listen and rethink

706
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 4: of that next question.

707
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 2: You know, I think it's this term balance. Is it

708
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: balance or is the integration? Right? Sometimes I even think

709
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: about that for myself because my mental health impacts my business.

710
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: My business impacts my mental health, my relationships impact my

711
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: mental health, my relationships impact my business, right, and I

712
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: think that part of it is showing up as authentically

713
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: as I can all the time. You know, Like my

714
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: one of my coworkers just at the office and she

715
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: was like, you ek stressed. I was like, yeah, I

716
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: have been not in my stomach right now, I feel

717
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: very anxious this week. Well I mean what I was

718
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: gonna say, like, yeh, no, girl, I'm good like d

719
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: I wasn't good at that moment. I wasn't. And so

720
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: you know, I think for me, my parents used to

721
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: always and you know, bless stressfuls. They tell you what

722
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 2: they teach you, what they know best, right. They were

723
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: like work is work at home, it is home. Make sure

724
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 2: you don't be sharing no personal stuff out at work,

725
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: like they're gonna judge you and you're not gonna get

726
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 2: promoted in all things. Right. But I got to show

727
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 2: up with myself because I got forty six chromosomes. You

728
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: got forty six chromosomes, you know, Soothie over here got

729
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 2: forty six chromosomes, right, And so I'm a whole person.

730
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: And I think that for me, like what I do

731
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 2: is I just like I schedule like the same energy

732
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: that we have to scheduling our reviews to scheduling our

733
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: weekly deep dives to scheduling you know, a myriad of

734
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: meetings that we have each week. Why don't we have

735
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: that same energy when scheduling our friend dates? Why don't

736
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 2: we have that same energy when scheduling the things that

737
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: we know are mentally resetting for us? Right? And so

738
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: what I've done is I like, I don't switch up.

739
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: People are like, oh, my scheduled da da da da da.

740
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: But then when it comes in that thing our friendships,

741
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 2: when it comes to that thing and their sensors of joy,

742
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, if I get to it, Nah, it's

743
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: not if you get to it right, because you got

744
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: to do the whole year all the time. Like you

745
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: don't get a part of you that just leads because

746
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: it's work hours. No, that's just not how like humans work.

747
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: And so you know, I always tell people like I

748
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 2: date my friends, like I learned this from my best

749
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: friend Kizzie. But I make all my friends take a

750
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: love language quiz and I understand, like what's the love

751
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: language they accept and what's the love language they speak? Right,

752
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: some of my friends are really big gift friends, and

753
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: I send them things when they like I send them

754
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: like small things when they are feeling bad and they

755
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: like love it, right. I'm not a gift person, so

756
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: it's like, but I'm trying to speak their love language.

757
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: And some of my friends are like access service people.

758
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: So I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna send a

759
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 2: tash grabate person over to handle this thing that you've

760
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 2: been complaining about, or I got you right. And so

761
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: I think that, you know, we are inconsistent with our

762
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 2: investment across different facts of our life. And I think

763
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: that's the integration component. I got to integrate my life

764
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: into my calendar, not necessarily figure out out how to

765
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 2: balance these two things, these three things that are completely

766
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 2: distinct because they're not because you know what they all

767
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: center start and end with me.

768
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 4: You better preach love it.

769
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, as I'm listening to you, and I

770
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 3: love what you said about the getting dating your friends

771
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: right and that difference between balance and integration, because we

772
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: you know, the reality is we're in a capitalist society,

773
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: and so we're all expected, if we're going to be

774
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: a part of the capitalist machine, to constantly be working

775
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: and being productive and and prioritizing rest, prioritizing our friends

776
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 3: prioritizing ourselves is counter to that capitalists narrative only and yeah,

777
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 3: and so that's what I was getting ready to ask.

778
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 2: Right.

779
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 3: So for those folks who are listening and they're like,

780
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 3: I don't know how to get off of this this

781
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 3: capitalist train, I don't know how to not allow it

782
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 3: to run me. What would you suggest they do to

783
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 3: kind of start?

784
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: I have one word you ready, ready? Yes, boundaries?

785
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: So yes, go ahead, like.

786
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 2: Just start a boundary perspector. In general, like people treat

787
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: you how you allow them to treat you. Right. I

788
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: was that known person in certain work environments where I

789
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: was responding to you. I would respond to your email

790
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: in five minutes with you email me and one o'clock

791
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: in the morning, and I was wanting to email a

792
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: five minutes, you give me five o'clock in the morning.

793
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: And I lived to make all my bosses happy. But

794
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: you know, I had an employee say that. One of

795
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: my coworkers say to me once. She said, you know,

796
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: sometimes you send a black messages at two am, and

797
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: it gives me a little bit of anxiety because I

798
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: don't know, I can't tell if you want me to

799
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: respond right away. And I was like, well, actually I

800
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: just sent it because I wanted to get it off

801
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: my chest, and like, you know, I knew you'll wake

802
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: up to it. And she was like I didn't. That

803
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: wasn't the vibey doctor. And I was like, you know what,

804
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: let's establish a boundary. I'm not going to slack you

805
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: before eight o'clock. I'm not going to email you before

806
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 2: eight o'clock. And you know, here's another reality check. I'm

807
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: not a physician who delivers babies. I'm not an emergency

808
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: room doctor. There's no one who's going to die because

809
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: I did not respond to an email by the time

810
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: somebody wanted it to be responded to. And I think

811
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: it's perspective too, right, So I think that you know,

812
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: you can create boundaries in your workplace. And quite frankly,

813
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: one thing.

814
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 6: That I've learned about this capitalistic society is that, honey,

815
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 6: I am a producer, Like I produced more than any

816
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 6: of my peer groups anywhere I've been.

817
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: And so when it comes to who needs too, oh honey,

818
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: you need me more than I need you. And don't

819
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: get it twisted. This talent is transferable, and this talent

820
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: is easily picked up other places. So if you're not

821
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: going to be out here treating me like I'm a

822
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 2: whole human working for you, and that I'm better producing

823
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 2: for you when I'm happier and more well integrated. Then

824
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that you're so social excited, because let me

825
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 2: tell you, I loved a job once and they had

826
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: to hire two people that they paid fifty percent more

827
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: each just to do the job that I was doing. So, honey,

828
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: you had me at a discount. Don't get it twisted.

829
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 2: I know my worth, I know my value, and what

830
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to do is in this capitalistic society, I'm

831
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 2: not going to let you sit here and gas like

832
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: me like I'm supposed to just be slaving away for

833
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 2: you like all the time. As if I don't produce

834
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: a lot of good work, please you can miss me

835
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: with that. And so I think it's about boundaries and

836
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: knowing you're worth and then calling it out because quite frankly,

837
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: it's always like when you're talented, and you know you're talented,

838
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: they don't want to lose you, and you know, quite frankly,

839
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: I mean I hate to say it, but when you

840
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 2: look like us and you talented, and they just like

841
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 2: lose you with their negliges. Baby, that's not good for them,

842
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 2: but that's something that they got to do with.

843
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 4: That's not exactly since got options. Okay, she said, y'all

844
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 4: need me more than I need you. Come on, I

845
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 4: love it. That's how we have to be though. And

846
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 4: as I thought about the other question that I wanted

847
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 4: to ask you, and I know we're coming to a close,

848
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 4: but I feel like we can talk to you all day.

849
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 4: You talked a bit about writing those love letters to

850
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 4: yourself on Mondays. What are some of the other ways

851
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 4: that you validate yourself because some people, many people go

852
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 4: to social media for that validation. They post that picture

853
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 4: in the morning to get those likes to start their

854
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 4: day off. Right, what are you doing behind the scenes

855
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 4: to validate yourself?

856
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 2: So a few things, right. You know doctor Brene Brown,

857
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: she's one of my favorite psychologists. I'm gonn meet her

858
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 2: one day. We're gonna we're gonna have a good glass

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Speaker 2: of wine together. We gonna like chop it up. But

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Speaker 2: you know, she points out that we live in an

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Speaker 2: area a time of scarcity. So the first thing we

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Speaker 2: think about we wake up in the morning is managing

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Speaker 2: good enough sleep. The last thing we think about before

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Speaker 2: our head hits the pillow, is you know, dang, I

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Speaker 2: didn't get enough done. And you know that is your

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Speaker 2: most vulnerable time of the day because of the scarcity mindset.

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Speaker 2: And so I don't use social media in the morning.

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Speaker 2: I don't even really use technology like that and right

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Speaker 2: before I go to bed because I need to be

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Speaker 2: grounded in my own life and not in a scarcity

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Speaker 2: moment being super concerned with what everybody else is doing

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Speaker 2: and achievement with their life. That's That's one. Another is

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Speaker 2: that you know, when I wake up, I'm very much

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Speaker 2: a like no technology person. My phones over here. I

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Speaker 2: read a daily devotional for women. Right, It's just like

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Speaker 2: it's like, okay, let me get on my two feet.

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Speaker 2: I also I get up, I do twenty five push

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Speaker 2: ups that I get up, and I do my daily

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Speaker 2: devotional and I'm like all right, because I get my

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Speaker 2: blood pumping, I'm like, all right, cool, cool, I'm up.

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Speaker 2: I'm up, let's go. And that's also very helpful. And

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Speaker 2: the last thing I'll do is, you know, I have

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Speaker 2: a check in with myself and I'm like, Isa, what's

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Speaker 2: the gap you're feeling, what is the insecurity you're feeling? Now, right,

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Speaker 2: and I will take a post it and write a

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Speaker 2: counter to that and put it right by my door,

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Speaker 2: so I walk past it multiple times a day. You know,

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Speaker 2: for instance, someone on my door right now in an

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Speaker 2: orange post it, it says, Isa, you can't control what

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Speaker 2: you can't control, so focus your energies on what you

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Speaker 2: can control and delve deeper to make a difference there,

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Speaker 2: because I can't allow this pressure to take over me, right,

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Speaker 2: And so I think those are some of the things,

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Speaker 2: and I honestly the biggest point I have there is

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Speaker 2: also experiment with what works for you, right. You know,

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Speaker 2: I think that people don't experiment enough in general. They're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I tried that, it didn't work, so much.

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Speaker 3: Experiment that is beautiful, thank you. The therapist in me

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Speaker 3: is it was loving all of that, all of your tips.

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Speaker 3: I was like, yes, yes, and you know, I was

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Speaker 3: resonating with a lot of them, because those are similar

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Speaker 3: things that I tell my clients, right of it is

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Speaker 3: an experiment. You do have to give yourself time and

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Speaker 3: patience to figure out what is the thing that's going

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Speaker 3: to work for you, And getting up and doing twenty

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Speaker 3: five push ups in the morning works for you. Maybe

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Speaker 3: having a cup of tea and watching the sunrise works

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Speaker 3: for someone else, right, and so figuring out what is

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Speaker 3: the thing that works for you that allows you to

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Speaker 3: get more in touch with yourself, your real self. That's

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Speaker 3: beautiful and so Isa, this episode is airing the week

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Speaker 3: your book launches. So tell our audience as they're listening,

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Speaker 3: because we know by the end of this episode they're like,

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Speaker 3: all right, we're ready. Where can we get this book

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Speaker 3: and where can they find you?

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Speaker 2: Well, they can buy the book anywhere books are sold, Amazon,

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Speaker 2: Barnes and Noble, all the places. I got audible audiobook,

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Speaker 2: I got the Kindle Life Beyond Life, logging off your

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Speaker 2: screen and into your life. People can find me on

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Speaker 2: I A. D. Watson everywhere Isa d is in Diane,

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Speaker 2: watch on Twitter, Instagram, but also just come to my

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Speaker 2: website and email me because I don't like Instagram. Like fast,

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Speaker 2: I want you.

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Speaker 4: This was so good, I said, thank you so much

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Speaker 4: for hanging out with us. We appreciate you and all

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Speaker 4: the work that you're doing. This is such important work,

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Speaker 4: and I think as time continues to go on, people

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Speaker 4: are going to realize the magnitude of what you're doing.

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Speaker 4: They're going to continue to realize that anything that you're

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Speaker 4: manifesting that we can support with Obviously, Lady, if you're listening,

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Speaker 4: go buy the book. Let's go support our sister here.

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Speaker 4: Anything else that we can do to support what you're

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Speaker 4: manifesting is said.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do have something. I want all the listeners

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Speaker 2: to invest in their joy. The more joyful they feel,

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Speaker 2: the more joyful energy we have around the world, and

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Speaker 2: the lesson misery that we're trapped in. So that joy

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Speaker 2: investment that helps me as much as it helps you.

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Speaker 4: All Right, Lady, you have two next steps after listening

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Speaker 4: to this episode, Go get the book and invest in

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Speaker 4: your joy.

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Speaker 2: Isa.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate you. We'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: Lady, Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Hey, lady's doctor dom here from the Cultivating her Space podcast.

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Speaker 3: Are you currently a resident of the state of California

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Speaker 3: and contemplating starting your therapy journey? Well, if so, please

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Speaker 3: reach out to me at doctor Dominique Brusard dot com.

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Speaker 3: com to schedule a free fifteen minute consultation. I look

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Speaker 3: forward to hearing from you. Thanks for joining us today.

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Speaker 3: Please note that our show may contain conversations about self help, advice,

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Speaker 3: self empowerment, and mental health, but is by no means

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Speaker 3: meant to be a substitute for an ongoing formal relationship

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Speaker 3: with a trained mental health provider. If you are someone

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Speaker 3: you know is in need of mental health care, please

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Speaker 4: herspace podcast dot com. And before we meet again, repeat

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Speaker 4: after me. I attract abundance and prosperity with ease