1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: So the first question you asked everybody when you first 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: got to the league, who's the first person to bust 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: your head. 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: The first person that got me was Glenn Rice. Right. 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 3: The man put me on the block. It was like 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 3: fresh meat that he saw I was. 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: I was supposed to be guarding Dale Curry. And then 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: you know there was. 9 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: A switch off, and you know, I'm trying to figure 10 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 3: out the league and how how this game is played, 11 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: and I was a liability all season long because I'm 12 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 3: playing against guys that in college, you stand next to 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 3: the guy and you act like you got a hand up. 14 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: He's not gonna shoot it right. 15 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you get to the league and you 16 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 3: try that, you oh, you don't really. Dell Curry had 17 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: the ball up like that, and I was just in 18 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 3: front of him. He looked at me, Oh, you ain't 19 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: put your hand up. He didn't even. 20 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: Bit his leg nothing, just right from there, hut right 21 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: from there. 22 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 3: And I was like and then I looked at the 23 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: coach and he looked at me like I did something wrong. 24 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 2: I was like, obviously guarded man. 25 00:00:58,440 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 4: Glenn Right had that high art. 26 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: He usually have that ball up high, so you could 27 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: it was hard to block his shadow blocker or even 28 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: a Justice shot. 29 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: And he was strong at hell too. 30 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm telling you I couldn't deny the ball and 31 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: he was gonna get his six. He He's gonna get 32 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: the ball where he wanted it. When I got to lead, 33 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: you know the same. 34 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: I still say. Now, good defense better offense. 35 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: And you don't realize that until you play in the NBA, 36 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: because you can play perfect defense in the NBA and 37 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: the guy is still gonna score on you no matter what. 38 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 2: Yo, yo yo. 39 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 5: We live on location. It's all Florida today. Everybody Florida, 40 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 5: shouty Florida, Florida, Florida. 41 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: Me and d Miles is right here in Orlando. 42 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 5: Central Florida City beautiful and we got Hall of Famer, Hall. 43 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: Of Famer Darren said. 44 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 5: Jesus Shuttle words there, I said, the top three point 45 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 5: makeup of all time right now, I'm talking about the 46 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 5: first the original member of Jordan's brand team. 47 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: Jesus. 48 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: He got Gay. 49 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: Allen in the building with a baby. What's up, man, 50 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: We appreciate you pulling up on us. 51 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 5: Man. 52 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 2: This is super dope. Man. 53 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 3: Thank y'all for having me. I've been watching y'all for 54 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 3: a long time. Now you got the great self. Thanks 55 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: for having me on. Yes sir, yes, sir. 56 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: When we first got to the league, I think this 57 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: is my favorite team you'd have played off. 58 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 4: Like when we first got to the league. 59 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: You was with the Milwaukee Bucks and y'all had to 60 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: hit us on the esquad from sale to say the 61 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: big Dog to Tim Thommas like Anthony Mason, like I 62 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: remember when we got to the Lake, I felt like that 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: team with the team that could compete with the Lakers 64 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: in them championship. I feel like I think that one 65 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: year y'all beat them them two games y'all played there. 66 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: I feel like y'all team was built to play against 67 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 1: us speak on that team, so we just got y'all 68 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: two point geez because. 69 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 4: You Sam big Dog. 70 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: Talking about like anytime that y'all shot shot the ball, 71 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: we was like, man, that mother game miss it. So like, 72 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: how was that to play with that team and had 73 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: that much firepower and feel like you could win the 74 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: championship in the early days. 75 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: Well, it was unfortunate because we should have stayed together 76 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: a lot longer. I think one of our fatal flaws 77 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: and you know, God rest his soul with Anthony Mason. 78 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: We had such a great chemistry. When we added him 79 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: to the mix, it disrupted that because we were we 80 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: played fast, and we played took the first available shot. 81 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: And when he came he didn't subscribe to that style 82 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: of play. 83 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: It was like that mighty different. It slowed us down. 84 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: And then, you know we prior to that, previous years 85 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: it was harmony because and I love the way George 86 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: called coached us then because we had you know, for myself, 87 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: to Glenn, to Tim Thomas, to Sam to Michael Red. 88 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 3: You know, George's always said he was like my weapons, 89 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, but he would the way he played 90 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: like I was the leading scorer on the team. But 91 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: it wasn't like the offense was geared towards me. You know, 92 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 3: everybody had input into the game. You know, the way 93 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: we play similar, you know, teams to plan now, but 94 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: we took everything from threes to two, the post ups 95 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 3: and when Darborham came in the game, he had to 96 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 3: play and we all knew it and. 97 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 2: We just situated around it. 98 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: We knew like we got threes off offensive rebounds, knew 99 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: that we were going to play fast and in transition, 100 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: and so everybody had, you know, input there was one 101 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: game where Tim Thomas maybe had forty that helped us win. 102 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: I think it was Portland during the year, so you're right, 103 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: Like we beat the Lakers twice that year, but then 104 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 3: we couldn't get past Philly. They suspended this guy win 105 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: in Game seven as we fly to Philly and like 106 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: that to me is one of the saddest moments for 107 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: my career. 108 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: Just from going back from that. 109 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 3: Because no way should the league determine the outcome of 110 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: a game by suspended the guy. All he did was 111 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 3: elbow Ai in a lane and he fell and they 112 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: gave him a foul. They upgraded it to a flagrant 113 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: or a technical, which suspended Scott for that next game. 114 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: And that right there was a story for us. But 115 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: we certainly, I think early we set the blueprint for 116 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: how things are today, how teams are we used to have. 117 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: I remember Rick Buker was following us all year trying 118 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: to figure out if we can win this way. It's 119 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: been proven now, you know, with Golden State and with Toronto, 120 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: because the league certainly has changed. 121 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 5: Take me back to South Carolina. So you was an 122 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 5: Air Force kid. You've moved around, like what you grew 123 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 5: up mostly in South Carolina. 124 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: Well, so I was born in California, and then I 125 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 3: moved uh to Germany, and then from Germany to Oklahoma, 126 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: from Oklahoma to England, from England to southern California, and 127 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: from southern California to South Carolina. 128 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: So when I was thirteen, I moved to South Carolina. 129 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 2: I was in eighth grade. 130 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 3: And that was from eighth grade on before until I 131 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: went to Yukon, I was in South Carolina. 132 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: And I have to say, you. 133 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: Know, all that traveling prepared me for ultimately going to 134 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: college and then playing in the NBA and then having 135 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: exposure and touching all those different parts of the world, 136 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 3: you know, gave me an understanding that, you know, what 137 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: takes place all around the world is different, not necessarily better, 138 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: but different. But up until then, so when you're in 139 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 3: the military, you know, all the schools that you go 140 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: to were on base, their Department of Defense funded, so 141 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: they're basically private schools. You had the best teachers school food. 142 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: I got to South Carolina, this was the first school. 143 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: It was funded by the county, and it was more 144 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: poor than I had been used to. And so if 145 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: it weren't for that environment, I wouldn't be who I 146 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: am today or where I ended up going throughout my life, 147 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: because you know, for most of my life on a 148 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: military basis, everybody was for me. You know, everybody rooted 149 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: for me, and there was no real adversity. But when 150 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: I got to South Carolina, you know, and they drove 151 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: me off that first day, you know, that first week, 152 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: I got into a fight almost you know, I thought, 153 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: you know, more regularly than I did up to that point, 154 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: because I was now finding out in my life for 155 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: the first time, what being black in the South mid right, 156 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 3: you know, because kids, you know, the black kids didn't 157 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 3: like me or didn't trust me because I didn't speak 158 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: like them. And then obviously the white kids stuck to themselves. 159 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: So I was on an island. The bus came from 160 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: the military base, so most of the kids were on 161 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: the bus were people. 162 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: That lived around me. 163 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: But the minute we got dropped off at school, it 164 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: was like hoping Greece. Everybody went their separate ways and 165 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: they knew who to hang out with and who not 166 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: to hang out with. So I'm like standing in the middle, like, hey, guys, 167 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: like uh, and it wasn't it wasn't going down, but 168 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 3: basketball they bridged that gap. We brought everything together. So 169 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: then once I started playing basketball, all the kids from 170 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: school started coming over to the house playing in the 171 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: court across the street, and all the kids that were 172 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: in the neighborhoods started playing as well. So that's the 173 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: thing that really brought those relationships. And it was like 174 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: a godsend because if I didn't play basketball, it would 175 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 3: have been hell. 176 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: I mean it was. 177 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: But as a thirteen year old kid, you figure it out. 178 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 3: You learn, and you figure out who's for you and 179 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: who's against you. 180 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 5: When did you first began playing ball? Like, was it 181 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 5: before and before you got to South Carolina? It was 182 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 5: that you picked up there? 183 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 3: Well, I started when I was in California, when I 184 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: was when I was ten, That's when I started playing organized. 185 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: But what was beautiful about it being the military is 186 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: my dad played and my mom played. And you know, 187 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: when we were overseas, they had every base that we 188 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: lived on, they had teams, so they was called semi pro, 189 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 3: and so my dad played football and he played basketball, 190 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 3: so we went to all their games. Close as I 191 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: got to playing basketball, was sitting in the bleachers trying 192 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: to find quarters underneath the bleachers when people that was 193 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: my hustle did. But I was there. I watched them play, 194 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 3: you know, I watched them and I cheered them on, 195 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: and you know, they would you know, they won championships 196 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: in the Air Force and my mom, you know Dad, 197 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 3: they they would travel together. It was similar to the 198 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: high school of varsity, where you know, the women played 199 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: and the men played. So it was it was a 200 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 3: great upbringing because I was around it. There's a saying that, 201 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 3: you know, a hundred black men say what they see, 202 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 3: they will be And ultimately that's kind of it emanated 203 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: through who I was as a kid, from my parents 204 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: into me. So now you get to an age where 205 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: my dad's still hooping, he's still going to gym, and 206 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: we go to the gym with every day. So on 207 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 3: Saturdays and Sundays, I was playing with all the grown 208 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 3: men every day, you know, And that that's what helped 209 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: shape me as a young kid. 210 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: What year did you know that, like, man, I'm one 211 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: of the country's best. I'm not just only the best 212 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: in South Carolina, I'm one of the best in the country. 213 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: You know. 214 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: I don't think I ever got to that realization because 215 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: South Carolina and I remember I went to Nike camp 216 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: and I think it was ninety two when I was 217 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: at Nike Camp and it was Rashid Steph that Rashard Griffith, Like, 218 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: you know, Shi was representing you. I'm telling you, I 219 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: got there. Shi was so strong. You know, you had Antoine, 220 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 3: you had what's the guy that went to Louisville, Jason Osbourne, 221 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: Like it was so many dudes, And I'm coming down 222 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 3: the South and I'm like, for the first time, I'm 223 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: seeing you know, Shytown, New York, Philly, LA. And I'm like, man, 224 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 3: I'm I'm like nowhere on the map. But it was 225 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: good because my eyes gave me something to realize, like 226 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 3: I got to be better, way better than this kids 227 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: in South Yeah, like because I know what's out there, 228 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: and it didn't scare me as much as some kids 229 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: would be shocked by. I was like it gave me 230 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: comfort to know that, you know, I can play to 231 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 3: a level if I want to to get better. But 232 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: I just can't sit back and think because I'm the 233 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: best in South Carolina, one of the best, that's good enough. 234 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: And so I. 235 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 3: Knew, Like I played in the I played in the 236 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: tournament and stack house was there. This was in Myrtle 237 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: Beach because he's from Yeah, and so just Stack was 238 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 3: the man. He was like ranked number one in the 239 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: in the country at the time, and I just knew 240 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 3: he was the dude everybody was talking to about. 241 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: And as long as he was there, I knew I 242 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: had work to do. 243 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: And I think something like that for our kids to 244 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: always dangle that carrot over him is what kind of 245 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: holds them accountable, Like, no, you got some. 246 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: Work to do. 247 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: You know, this little dude right here now you can 248 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 3: see on YouTube and on Instagram, these. 249 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: Dudes like you're like, yo, let me show you you you. 250 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 3: Still, let me show you see what blood did last 251 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: night in the game. 252 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to stay. 253 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: We used to look at stats in the papers that 254 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: they can see he's the streets of Smith and ranks 255 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. 256 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 5: That's all you had, Like you said, though, like when 257 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 5: you and I'm from Chicago, so I wasn't when I 258 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 5: first got to go to camp. I didn't walk in 259 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 5: the door like yeah, I'm the best from here, like 260 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 5: I came in like. 261 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: When we get to it. 262 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 5: When I went to ABC camp first, we get there 263 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 5: and it's like you know, you had Princeton and it 264 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 5: was like, man, you got lamorrow Old And this is 265 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 5: just the camp where t mat went from unknown to 266 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 5: number one in America in the world. Bro, you're talking 267 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 5: about shell shocks sitting there looking looking around like oh shit, 268 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 5: like okay, like hoop, like I gotta go, I gotta 269 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 5: go work, like I ain't even scratching the level with 270 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 5: these dudes. It was like, I mean, little Greedy Daniels 271 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 5: was a was a killer back then, Like man, you 272 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 5: had t Neck, you had Llow Like that was the 273 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 5: first time I saying l play. I said, we go 274 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 5: to his court. This man six take six' nine coming 275 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 5: down the, court scoop Little bridge dribbling under his knees 276 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 5: and then skipped like an underhand bounce past. 277 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: Something But i'm, like what is going? On like? This 278 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: it was like a whole new. 279 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 5: World was like WHEN i got back to the CRIT 280 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 5: i was, like, okay, YEAH i was, Weak Like i'm, weak, 281 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 5: Bro LIKE i gotta get to, it LIKE i got 282 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 5: a lot of work to. 283 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: Do so that camp definitely did that for. 284 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: ME i, think what you, know the exposure is so 285 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: huge because you know two things come out of. It 286 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 3: you realize that this ain't for, you or you see 287 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 3: you saw the lighter than the, tunnel LIKE i. 288 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: Saw what you, Walk, yeah you saw what you like 289 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: at my night CAP q now was the man in 290 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: my Nightcamp WHEN i went my sophomore year AND i 291 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: Seen corey, MCGHETTY i Seen Ryan rush And cooley old, 292 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: young and, like you, know we in the lunch line 293 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: and they over there eating McDonald's and all kind of. 294 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: Stuff i'm, like, man they, like, yeah that's the number, 295 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: one number, two number three player in the. 296 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:23,359 Speaker 2: World i'm, LIKE i want to be like, them, different phone, positive. 297 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 4: Different i'm talking about. 298 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: Man they were just looking like the, man and it 299 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: was just, like, MAN i want to be at that 300 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: level with. Them Then i'm watching them, play watching cute they'll, 301 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: play and you, know just the competitive eds of that 302 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: just you, know like you, say you choose right, there 303 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: whether you want to compete for, Something you're gonna take it. 304 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 4: Seriously this just a game to. 305 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: You but here's the problem when you see, that because you, 306 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: know we all can go back to our class and 307 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: look at the ones that we, admired that we, feared 308 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: that we revered because they were so. Nice but the 309 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: problem is at that. Level those, kids they think that 310 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 3: they're on this escalator just gonna take them right to 311 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: where they want to. 312 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: Go so they don't have to work. 313 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: Anymore but because what they did was they put that 314 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 3: fear in all of, us you, KNOW, q they put 315 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: that fear into, you so they set a bar for 316 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: you to, Say, okay WELL i got to go back 317 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 3: AND i gotta you, know. 318 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: This is on my. Mind but did those kids that are, 319 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: good that are. 320 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: Getting all the smoke at that, age they don't have 321 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: to do anything in their mind anything. 322 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: More Because i'm at the. 323 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: Top ALL i gotta do is just keep killing these 324 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: kids and Then i'm gonna end up in college or 325 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: go straight to the. Pros and that's those are the 326 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: ones that don't get. Better those the one end up 327 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: choosing the wrong school and then all of a, sudden 328 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: you don't hear about no. More and we you, know 329 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: somebody like myself BECAUSE i was ranking top twenty five 330 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: in high, school BUT i didn't have any real like 331 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: fan fare or cloud behind my name BECAUSE i and 332 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 3: it didn't matter. ME i was, Like i'm gonna go 333 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: where they're gonna build, me WHERE i can, play WHERE 334 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: i can have, Fun, like, YEAH i want to be 335 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 3: playing THE, nba BUT i was thinking about jumping higher 336 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 3: and be getting better shooting because now BECAUSE i have 337 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: a kid on my team, NOW i asked another day 338 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: what their goals were BECAUSE i want them to put 339 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: their goals out other people hear. Them so when other 340 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: people hear, them they help them accomplish those. Goals and 341 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: if you straight from that, path somebody's there to remind. 342 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: You remember when you told me this what you're feeling. 343 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: At how is it coaching your kids? Team is? That 344 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: how was that for? 345 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 3: You, well you know when you go to watch your 346 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: kids play and you're sitting up in the crowd and 347 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 3: the stand And i'm watching them this year and they were, 348 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 3: horrible you know during their season this year it was 349 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: like no, effort you, know just doing silly. THINGS i 350 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: found myself way more emotional in the stands THAN i wanted, To, 351 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: like you, Know i'm, Like i'm just gonna sit here 352 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: and be. Cool AND i was cool for the most, 353 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: part But i'm looking at my son like And i'm 354 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: yelling at him and telling me to people because it's 355 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: like it's, like, dude, go you, know because he the 356 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: ball would come up and he would. 357 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: Run you, Know i'm, like, run go get easy. Bucket 358 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: so like. 359 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: A couple of, Practices i'd come there and be there 360 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: after practice AND i work with the kids and sometimes 361 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: before the practice without step on the coaches Told so 362 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: when seas an end that day where you, know the 363 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: coach asked, me he, said you want to create AN aau, 364 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 3: team would you been willing to coach? It AND i 365 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 3: SAID i thought about, it AND i, said, yeah, YEAH i 366 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 3: really would because there's so much that they need to. 367 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: Learn so my, philosophy you, know behind teaching these kids 368 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: is to. 369 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: Get them to, compete you, know every single. 370 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: Practice you, know that's WHAT i want to see because 371 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 3: they're at a private, school so they're they're void of. 372 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: Adversity you, know for the most, part most of our 373 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: kids grow up in nice. Home they have swimming. Pools 374 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 3: they think every kid lives that. Way but the three 375 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 3: of us we grew up. 376 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: Differently you. 377 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 3: Know we grew up with so little and that's what 378 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 3: created us to fight and scratch and. 379 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: Claw you. 380 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: Know we were Like i'm not going to, start you, 381 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 3: know right and now, yeah now they don't have that. 382 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: Adversity so when the ball comes off the. 383 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: RIM i got. 384 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 3: Kids on this team THAT i coached that look at 385 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: the ball, bounce you, know trying to teach them. That you, 386 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 3: know some of the best players in the world were 387 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: great rebounders and made The hall Of fame because of. 388 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: It, yes rebounding is a. Talent you. 389 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: Know my son has a fire AND i love, that 390 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 3: SO i could work with. Him he's gotten better over 391 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: the last two, years and he continues to get. Better 392 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: but it's trying to get all of them to play 393 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 3: at that same level all the. Time so every DRILL 394 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: i do in practice is about. Competing like some kids 395 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 3: we play against want to do this worse than they 396 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 3: want to breathe, Right and these kids don't feel that, 397 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 3: way and so trying to give them that adversity and 398 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 3: that conflict in their. Minds they play, basketball so they 399 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 3: when they go out, there they. Fight when you get 400 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: to doing those. Things like my son one time he 401 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 3: turned the ball over and Like i'm this is during the, 402 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: Season so he turns the ball over trying to drill 403 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 3: his left handing. Strong the guy still doesn't go in another. 404 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 3: Direction he like knocks it back and the ball knocks 405 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 3: loose and it rolls to have. Port he crawls on 406 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 3: all fours and he beat the guy running to the, 407 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: ball scooped the ball, up got and threw it to 408 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: the guy and he was hot like he. Was he 409 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: turned in the, hole but he was so mad that 410 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 3: he lost the. Ball AND i told him after the. 411 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 3: GAME i was, like, man look BECAUSE i criticized him 412 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 3: first and everything he did. Wrong AND i, said but 413 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: that play that you made to have. Court if any 414 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 3: college coach In america saw you make that, play they're 415 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: gonna SAY i want that guy on my. Team he 416 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 3: was already pissed off and upset because they. 417 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: Lost they got. 418 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 3: Beat but then WHEN i said, THAT i looked in 419 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 3: the mirror and he had a grin on his face 420 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 3: because it was something that stuck with him that he 421 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 3: REALIZED i see you on both both. ENDS i wouldn't 422 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: let you know when you you made, mistakes but more, 423 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 3: IMPORTANTLY i want you to see. 424 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: The work that you're putting in. Difference, yeah see your. 425 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: Accomplishment what you what you did. RIGHT i was telling 426 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: my son the same, thing like you're supposed to. Play 427 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: he played key minutes in the game because the other 428 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: two big men was hurt AND i was, like through 429 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: four minutes at the end of the, game they needed, 430 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: that they needed that out of you helped the team. 431 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: Out they needed that they was playing the right. Way 432 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: they won the fire Trow you hadn't even been. Playing 433 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: that's team. 434 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 4: Ball. 435 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah but the other thing, too because we had to 436 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 2: learn this star. 437 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: Way you, know when it's a blowout either, way whether 438 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: you're beating somebody by twenty or getting smacked by. 439 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: Twenty and when you're a, younger coach put you in a, 440 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 2: game you're, like, man this is a. 441 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 3: BULLSHIT i don't want to go in a game like 442 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 3: this is where you now have to show the coach 443 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 3: that you deserve more, minutes, yeah that you can run his, 444 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 3: offense that you can play, defense and or too often 445 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 3: kids look at that garbage time as. Disrespects you, know 446 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 3: they want to play when everybody else is out. There, 447 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 3: no like you got to you got to get this, 448 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 3: Now like this. 449 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: Is my, time my. 450 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: MOMENT i told my, son it's been a guy been 451 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: on my team since fourth grade and he never. 452 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 4: Played but he was. 453 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: On my team since elementary school alway through high school 454 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: and he only played in. Blowouts but he was committed 455 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: to the, team good, teammate he played on the. 456 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 4: Team that's just what it's. 457 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 3: About i'm gonna use, that But i'm gonna say it 458 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 3: was my. Team is that because sometimes you need lessons 459 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 3: like that to be able to tell. Them because the 460 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 3: stories that we have far too often is you know 461 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 3: how you your, parents you said WHEN i was your, 462 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 3: age us to we used to walk to school two, 463 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 3: miles three. Miles but trying to take them back down 464 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 3: their pathway to show them the adversity that we, had. 465 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: You, know every single. 466 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 3: Day because here's the thing that we THAT i see 467 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: the most of that that drives me insane the minutes 468 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 3: a minute practice over or even during. Practice you, KNOW 469 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: i let them go get some. Water you, know these 470 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: dudes in The bingo. MINE i gave him the water. 471 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 3: Break they, went y'all know you know how it was 472 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 3: at The Paul you when you get a water, break 473 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 3: you go run to the cooler and you grab. Water 474 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 3: you run back to the court like you don't go 475 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 3: over there and start swapping stories and talking about what you. 476 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 3: Did these dudes were sitting on, them they sat, down 477 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 3: pick their. PHONE i blew the. WHISTID i was, like, 478 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 3: YO i say ain't social, Hour like you get some, 479 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 3: water you come right. 480 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: Back AND i was just as All american game and 481 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: gave him a water break from the. 482 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 4: Practice these guys just rant and all them grabbed their. 483 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: Phone bobby got on the ass so, bad, like, man 484 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: y'all don't want. 485 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 4: This y'all can't quote. 486 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: This if a water break is phone Tam, Yeah. 487 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: AND i tell them WHEN i, PLAYED i have a cell. 488 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 3: Phone everybody knew WHERE i, was so y'all know how 489 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 3: it was in the locker. 490 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: Room if that phone, rang that was a. 491 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 4: Fine so when. 492 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: The phone, rang, like, man who the hell is calling 493 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 3: me during the meeting and then everybody was like that 494 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 3: ain't my. 495 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: Phone that ain't. Me and that's WHAT i. 496 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: Tell the, kids like you got to, prioritize don't let 497 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: that phone distract. You and you, know your bed is 498 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 3: your enemy right. Now you rely on that bed and 499 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 3: you want to stay in the, bed that's your. Enemy 500 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 3: that's what's going to prevent you, from you, know maximizing 501 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 3: your greatest potential and realizing who you really can because. 502 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: Sleep is great when you need to, heal but when 503 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: you got to get, up you got to get. Up like. 504 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 5: That speaking speaking of oho. Ho before you get, THERE 505 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 5: i gotta asking. This i'm trying to figure this. Out 506 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 5: it's only one explanation how a high school kid that 507 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 5: worked At Ryan steakhouse got the nickname Candy. Man it 508 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 5: could have only been because the sweet jump, shot, RIGHT 509 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 5: i was, it you called? 510 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: It you called? 511 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:25,719 Speaker 4: It. 512 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 3: Yeah and when the season, STARTED i was working At 513 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 3: ryan's AND i was watched this and so once the season, 514 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 3: STARTED i can only work one day at night. 515 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: BECAUSE i had practice and then we had, games and 516 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 2: that Was. 517 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: WEDNESDAY i worked one night a week On, wednesdays AND 518 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 3: i made twenty one dollars and you, know twenty one 519 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 3: dollars as a senior in high. School back, THEN i 520 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 3: had my lunch, money you, know a little gassing a 521 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 3: little on the. 522 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: Petrol it stretch stretch for every. 523 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 4: Penny that's, yeah that. 524 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 3: STRETCH i hell that twenty one dollars and working for 525 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 3: it gave me even greater appreciation for. 526 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 2: It so but, yeah that's what it came. 527 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 3: From because you, know my announcer at the, time he, 528 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 3: SAID i wanted to figure out nicknamed you because you 529 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 3: just you, know everything you do is so sweet on the, 530 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 3: court and your jump shot of sweet and that's where 531 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: it ended up coming From. Candyman so they rolled that. 532 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: Out we want to stay challenged that year and THEN 533 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 3: i tried to hide from it WHEN i got to 534 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 3: college because you, know you want to you want to 535 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: start over on the. 536 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: Whole you know why they call you came. In don't 537 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 2: worry about, that. 538 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 4: You. 539 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 3: Know you know it's like like when these kids come 540 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: from high school into college and where all their all star, 541 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: gear you, know like this is you, know look at. 542 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 3: Me you KNOW i got the McDonald's this AND i 543 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 3: got young. Father, yeah don't put that to the. Side, 544 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 3: yeah could. 545 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: Have been anybody except for you can to somebody else 546 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: almost get. 547 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 2: You, Yeah ALABAMA i committed. 548 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: To that was my first visit AND i had such 549 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 3: a good, time and you, know the, coach the assistant 550 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 3: coach pressured. 551 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 2: Me into the. 552 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 3: Commitment you, know pulled into a parking lot before he 553 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 3: dropped me, off and you, know he kind of attacked 554 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: me and said, that you, KNOW i need to make 555 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 3: a responsible. Decision alabama is the place and IF i 556 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: don't choose, NOW i got other people that will. Choose 557 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 3: by the time you leave, here the spot will be. 558 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: Gone SO i, said, yes to. HIM i had a good. 559 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 3: Time and then WHEN i got, BACK i had a 560 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 3: coach that, said, Listen alabama might be the place for, 561 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: you but you won't know if you were right or 562 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 3: wrong if you don't take these. Visits and SO i 563 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 3: went to the first. Visit that was my first. Visit 564 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 3: and so THEN i went To yukon AND i was, like, 565 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 3: man LIKE i Love. Yukon but THEN i KNEW i 566 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 3: Love yukon more THAN i Loved. Alabama and one of 567 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 3: the differences Was alabama we had to sneak into a 568 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: football game and THAT yu kind of sat at the 569 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: fifty yard, line you, know and think about, that like 570 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 3: they took care of me and you kind AND i 571 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 3: said to, MYSELF i was, LIKE i want to be 572 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: at school that's oriented towards, basketball not, football where they're 573 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 3: gonna make sure that they make you the top priority budget, 574 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 3: wise you, know, travel just the look of the. 575 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 2: Program and you. Know my third visit Was kentucky just 576 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: to SEE i went to U. K, yeah AND i 577 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: went to THE uk. 578 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 4: Too. 579 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 580 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 3: Kentucky kentucky is like almost you're almost they almost they. 581 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: Feel like the league that the. 582 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 5: LEAD i was, like, man what's going all. 583 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: Around listen WHEN i went to The Midnight madness AND 584 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 3: i walked on the court and they start chanting my 585 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: name AND i started looking at they called them talking to, 586 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 3: me And i'm sitting there, thinking. 587 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: NO i ain't that good, yet that? Good like you 588 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: call them mind chanting my? 589 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 3: Name and they done got somebody in the, crowd like 590 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 3: y'all got a megaphone and, like, okay now we got 591 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: allen come. In see they got the student body and 592 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: the alumni on the payroll metaphorically because they know when 593 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: the cruit, comes they let that they let tell them 594 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: we go in for all ours and you know you 595 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 3: might be you, know seventy five in the, country but 596 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 3: you come to Visit, Kentucky we're gonna make you feel 597 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 3: like you belong, here. 598 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: Regardless double. 599 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 5: One that's how it was WHEN i was TO i 600 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 5: don't know wherever said this like Out like WHEN i 601 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 5: went TO. kNs i went for you, know the same, 602 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 5: Thing Midnight, madness and, man you walk, IN i think. 603 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 2: It was, Me Jeff, Boshie Joe, prisabella. 604 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 5: And jeron rush all on the same. Visit now you 605 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 5: magice going In alla Fall Field house On Midnight madness 606 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 5: in the whole. Building you know how they do the 607 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 5: rock chalk J. Hall they did the rock Chalk jayhawk 608 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 5: and then they SAID q reach. 609 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 2: BOY i was in that thing, like oh, shit like 610 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 2: the Whole i'm talking. 611 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 5: About, boy that was one of the craziest CHILLS i ever, 612 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 5: Got like that whole building they did that for all of. 613 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 2: US i was, Like, yo this is. 614 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 5: Crazy like that was the one visit that, like if 615 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 5: it wasn't for my coach and my parents and everybody 616 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 5: telling me like listen when we sat, down like you're 617 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 5: not committing on no, VISITS i don't care, What you're 618 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 5: gonna always come. 619 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: Home we're gonna collect ourself. 620 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 5: Smart if it wasn't for that and me agreeing to 621 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 5: that and from this, OUTSET i had committed on that. 622 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: VISIT i remember sitting. 623 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 5: THAT i was like WHEN i was talking To roy Woods, 624 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 5: man he was, like, yeah so he was trying to 625 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 5: figure out how Close I'M i. THINK i told that, 626 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 5: MAN i was like ninety eight percent, sure Like i'm, 627 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 5: Ready i'm just not doing it BECAUSE i can't do 628 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 5: it right, Now LIKE i had to get home and collect. 629 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 5: Myself but, like you're, right you get to some of 630 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 5: that stuff and it'd be like for a seventeen. 631 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: Year old, kid it was. 632 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 5: Overwhelming, Boy hey kids is ALMOST i WAS i was. 633 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 2: DISCLOSED i ain't gonna. Lie, well just two things that 634 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: that kids have to think. 635 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 3: About AND i tell you, know every young person, this 636 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 3: if you, can you, know get away from home so 637 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 3: you figure out who you are and you have to 638 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: work to get home or your parents have to work 639 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 3: to get to, you so you you have to learn 640 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: to rely on other. People but we're asking seventeen year 641 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 3: old kids to make a decision on where they should 642 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: be for the rest of their. Lives and that's the you, 643 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 3: know LIKE i, said he got a, game that's the hardest, 644 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: decision you, know or they, said it's the hardest decision 645 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 3: you're ever going to make in your, life because how 646 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 3: do you know what's good for you four years down 647 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 3: the line or eight to ten years down the. Line 648 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 3: you make decisions for the, moment like where your girlfriend, 649 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: is being close to, home a school that's good that 650 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 3: made it to the tournament at that, moment but there's 651 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: so many more bigger questions at the, time like what 652 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 3: is my playing time going to look? 653 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: Like CAN i fit in with this? Group of. 654 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: Guys is the coach going to be there for a 655 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: long time and is he going to push me to 656 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 3: be my? Best that's the thing about The yukon With, 657 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 3: calhoun he said he was the only one that didn't 658 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 3: guarantee me playing. Time he, said, listen if you work for, 659 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 3: it you, know we're going to put you in a 660 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 3: situation where you can grow and you can get better 661 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: and you can achieve some of the goal of you 662 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 3: in your. Life but we're not going to give you. 663 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 3: Anything but other coaches told, Me i'll make you AN nba. 664 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 3: PLAYER i know that you ain't gonna make. IT i 665 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 3: gotta do, it and you got to Hire and so 666 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 3: that's the thing that we had to get these young boys, understand, 667 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: like don't make these prisoner of the moment, decisions you, 668 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 3: know because those decisions don't. Aige, well you, know who 669 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 3: you are in ten years from now is gonna be totally. 670 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 3: Different so one of my biggest regrets is what my major. 671 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 3: WAS i majored in, communications LIKE i would truly would 672 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: have done like, architecture, engineering landscape, management something like, that 673 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 3: Because i've always appreciated you know yourself, now, yeah, yeah 674 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 3: back then you don't, know and so they do us 675 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 3: a disservice because they throw us in something real fast 676 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 3: just to appease us and get us. Playing and you, 677 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 3: know just you guys probably don't. Notice but Like i'm 678 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 3: in class right, now like my, semester just end it 679 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 3: BECAUSE i got four more classes TIL i get my. 680 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 3: Degree and you, know Now i'm seeing you, know from this, 681 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 3: angle you know how hugely important it is to do 682 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 3: something that you, like that you. Love so when you get, 683 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 3: done you have a degree that you could take and, 684 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 3: say you know, What i'm going to start my own 685 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 3: company BECAUSE i have an education in, engineering SO i 686 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 3: can you, know you don't get further in. 687 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 4: Education you see how much more you can. 688 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 3: Accomplish, yeah it's fascinating now with online learning because you 689 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 3: can you can take you can right. Now you can Go, 690 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 3: phoenix you, Know Southern New, hampshire you, Know DePaul and 691 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 3: find a class and get one. Credit you, know it 692 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 3: could be like about saving an. Environment like there's so 693 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 3: much information out. There and here's the thing about us as. 694 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 3: Athletes we're very knowledgeable. 695 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: On the game of. Basketball you. 696 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 3: Know one of the things that we the issues that 697 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 3: we dealt with over this past year was With Black 698 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 3: Lives matter, movement you, know all these inequities that have 699 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 3: taken place in our. 700 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: Government with the. 701 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 3: ELECTION i was taking a twenty twenty elections class as 702 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 3: the election was, happening so very. Informative but what happens 703 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 3: is is when this whole thing happened between us And, 704 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 3: china we wanted to only say then that we want 705 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 3: to only take basketball. Questions you, know we weren't skilled 706 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 3: and proven enough to handle that because we didn't have the. 707 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 3: Information but then the same, token we were telling people 708 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 3: that we were more than just basketball players and it's 709 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 3: not just shut up and. Dribble so this is where 710 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 3: we have to educate ourselves on issues of, government issues of, 711 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 3: community issues of world affairs because we do have involvement 712 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 3: in all of those. Things and so as a basketball, 713 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 3: player we don't get further. Education like you, know you 714 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 3: know you've been on the bus how many times guys 715 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 3: don't read and, Better but we know the shit out 716 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 3: of picking rolls and fast breaks and paying the breaking 717 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: down a game. Film but we have to continue to, 718 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 3: read pay attention to current, events world, events local, events 719 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 3: and figure out how that can help. Us because the 720 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 3: more you become better as a. Person that's when you 721 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: become a better, athlete you, know because you can, think you, 722 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 3: know your conflict resolution it. Grows so when you do 723 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 3: go through things on the, court you learn how to 724 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 3: be more, diplomatic you learn when. 725 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 2: To, attack when to. 726 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 3: Retreat but that's dealing with a lot of things off 727 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 3: the court as, Well so you got to practice that. 728 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: Stuff just like. 729 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 3: Shooting you got to practice those relationship building situations off the, 730 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 3: court so they do help you in. 731 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: Court what do you think about the guys like, now like 732 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: the guys in today's, game that's really speaking out more 733 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: telling their, feelings telling them about stuff that bothers them 734 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: about the world or what's going on that we used 735 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: to do back in the day when we, was you, 736 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: know playing in the. 737 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 3: League, yeah and that's exactly to the point THAT i 738 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 3: was just saying that they have to be educated on 739 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 3: the subject. 740 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: Matter you, know ALL i can. 741 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: Say is humanity always needs to prevail and people always 742 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 3: need to take care of each. Other but the most important, 743 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 3: thing like AS i sit here as AN nba, player 744 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 3: AND i get paid a lot of, money WHEN i 745 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 3: go to play a game of, basketball my job is 746 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 3: to come to work every single day and honor the 747 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 3: money that has been given to, me support my, family 748 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 3: show up with my, teammates being ambassaard to the, league 749 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 3: to the, team to the CITY i play. On so 750 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 3: at no point can you sit back and, say, OH 751 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 3: i don't feel like playing, today or too much stuff 752 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 3: is going on around the. World i'm not focused on. 753 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 3: Basketball you, know when you watch a, game when you 754 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 3: flip THE tv, on one thing that the, fans you, 755 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 3: know people who follow the game do not understand have 756 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: a grasp, of is what it took for us to 757 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 3: get to that moment WHEN tv came, on you see 758 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 3: your favorite team or players run out of. 759 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 2: That tunnel onto that. 760 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: Court like it's so much that goes into, it from 761 00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 3: dealing with family matters to getting, treatment to practicing to 762 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 3: warming up to you, know arguments in the locker room 763 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 3: like to, meetings like you, know it's so. Much but 764 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 3: then the minute you run on the, floor you got 765 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 3: to put that aside and go who slight. 766 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 4: Up The Big? 767 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: East you now you a yukon you in The Big 768 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: east and The Big east it's hit us you got 769 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: ai and Killdle John wallace like you got got? It 770 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: is so you you really got to prove yourself in 771 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: one of the toughest conference in college. Basketball how was 772 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: the conference in The Big east in your first? Year 773 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: is coming into that type of conference of the history. 774 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 3: Of oh WHEN i, Left WHEN i Left South, carolina 775 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 3: one of the reasons for me going To connecticut was 776 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 3: because of The Big, east BECAUSE i had an opportunity 777 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 3: to play in all the big cities and play primetime. 778 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 3: Basketball Big Big east was On Big, Monday Syracuse, Georgetown like. 779 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 4: Man all, y'all all y'all got every week after, Practice 780 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 4: i'm in That joe. 781 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 3: List like my first biggie game was Against Seaton hall 782 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 3: and we played at The. Meadowlands now we're about two 783 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 3: and a half hours from stores To Seaton, hall but 784 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 3: we crossed over To Georgia Washington, bridge so we don't 785 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 3: go right Into. Manhattan in The manhattan we go over 786 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 3: and AS i was an eighteen year old kid AND 787 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 3: i was looking out the, window the whole turn at 788 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: the city had. Before this to me was, like you, 789 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 3: Know i'm coming from YOUR mtv Raps New York. Undercover 790 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 3: like everything about the, city like all rap at the 791 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 3: time was coming From New, York like. 792 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 2: ALL i, mean it was. 793 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 3: CRAZY i was looking at this like that's it right, 794 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 3: there and THEN i put it on hot ninety. SEVEN 795 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 3: i caught it From New, jersey you, know in my hotel, 796 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 3: room AND i just looked out the window the whole. 797 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 2: Time and to, me it gave me the dream to 798 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: go out and do something. 799 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 3: More is the opportunities are coming From South carolina and 800 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 3: Now i'm In New York, city, right you, know playing 801 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 3: my First biggies. Game Like i'm, like this is what 802 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 3: this is what your dreams are made, of, right be able. 803 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 2: To be in this. 804 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 3: Position and SO i think coming from that first year At, 805 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 3: yukon Like gothum had us waking up at five thirty 806 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 3: in the morning lifting, weights like running three miles around the. 807 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 3: Campus like Every, saturday we had to run this heel 808 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 3: and you, know we had to run ten. 809 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 2: Times it was like the hill was like up and, 810 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 2: down it was a mile and it was. Hell AND 811 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: i had never worked as hard before in my. 812 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 3: Life we had these, tests these lack acid build up, 813 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 3: tests Like i'm doing. Stuffing you, know as a, KID 814 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 3: i was physically, capable BUT i was pushing my limits 815 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 3: AND i loved it BECAUSE i was doing things That 816 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 3: i'd never done, before AND i. 817 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 2: Was, growing you, KNOW i was, growing and every day 818 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: was a new. 819 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 3: Challenge the one thing THAT i said to myself in 820 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 3: my dorm room WAS i wasn't going to drink AND 821 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 3: i was going to hang out because this is, tough 822 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 3: burning in at both ends at one one playing, around 823 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 3: and you, KNOW i had guys THAT i remember the 824 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 3: next day we'd have practice at six in the. Morning 825 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 3: guys be all drinking and they couldn't hack. It And 826 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 3: i'll be over, there. Duncan and so what happened was 827 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 3: once we got into the. SEASON i remember the first 828 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 3: game of the, year we played Against Towson state In. 829 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 3: Pennsylvania and the second game of the year we Played 830 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 3: virginia And Howard dean Remember Harold. Dean Harl dean was 831 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 3: a point guard And harold AND I i had known each 832 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 3: other over the, years just you, know through through the. 833 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 3: Circuit and so after the game we're. Talking we beat 834 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 3: them by twenty and you, KNOW i was the leading 835 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 3: sport out the first time my name was On Sports 836 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 3: center and you, know your name's up, there and then 837 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 3: said you let the team was gorn And harold said to. 838 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 3: Me he's, like, man, y'all he, said y'all look. Tough 839 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 3: what y'all, Doing like y'all running and pressing like. That 840 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 3: like that was the first TIME i realized all the 841 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 3: work that we put in in preseason and was paying 842 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 3: off because these dudes couldn't keep up with, us and 843 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 3: we were so, conditioned like we ran hard like it was, 844 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 3: drilling running run from drill to drill like it was 845 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 3: A it was a military. Mindset and so ONCE i 846 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 3: got into a, game every, TIME i didn't worry about 847 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 3: whether or NOT i could play basketball or WHETHER i 848 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 3: was gonna be good enough. 849 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 2: BECAUSE i was so. 850 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 3: PREPARED i shot at, nauseum like you, know working on 851 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 3: running in, Transition like ONCE i got out, there it 852 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 3: was like throw the ball, up we were. 853 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 2: Gone was scoring in transition around the. 854 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 3: Basket SO i never ever questioned my skill BECAUSE i 855 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 3: KNEW i was putting to work. 856 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 5: In how was it for you in ninety five ninety 857 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 5: six in college you Win Big East player of The 858 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 5: year with all of those different H ai, Kittles John 859 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 5: whyle was the name of. You, like you Win Big 860 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 5: East player The? Year how was that for you that? 861 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 5: Year you, know WHEN i. 862 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 3: Think back on, It i'm truly fortunate to say THAT 863 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 3: i wanted with that as simbil as of talent because you, 864 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 3: know you Had Felipe, Lopez yeah, Yeah Danie, abrams uh yeah, 865 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 3: yeah Like danye was getting, Buckets providence was. Loaded uh 866 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 3: you still don't forget you Had Lawrence poetry And. Mowten oh, 867 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 3: yeah you, know so guys like that like we. Had 868 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 3: there was so much individual talent and it made for you, 869 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 3: know especially for fans to. 870 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 2: Watch it made for exciting. 871 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 3: Basketball but that year, really you, know Between ai and, 872 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 3: myself like we went to head to head in the 873 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 3: Big german and it Was i'm telling you it was 874 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 3: scary but fascinating the same. Time BECAUSE i remember coming, 875 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 3: through uh down what street is? That It's, BROADWAY i 876 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 3: think In New york where the guard is. ON i 877 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 3: remember seeing our names up on The, marquee you, know you, 878 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 3: Know Ray allen Versus Allen. Iverson AND i was sitting there, 879 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 3: THINKING i was, like, man like NORMALLY i would, panic 880 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 3: BUT i know what to do, HERE i, know you, 881 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 3: know just just play. Basketball like it's not LIKE i 882 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 3: got to give a speech on on rocket. 883 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 2: Science you, KNOW i know how to do What i'm 884 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 2: about to. 885 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 3: Do so sometimes you just got to block it out 886 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 3: because you, know we Had carrie AND i had some 887 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 3: huge battles we. 888 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 2: Played we had. 889 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 3: One game In connecticut Where Big monday we were supposed to, 890 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 3: play but we had a, snowstorm so it got moved To, 891 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 3: tuesday and you, know they weren't gonna put another game, 892 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 3: on and everybody. 893 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 2: Wanted to see it because we. 894 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 3: Were like one and two in the country at the, 895 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 3: time and but they just had they just had a. 896 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:41,320 Speaker 3: Roster AND i, appreciated you, know carries and skill because 897 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 3: that's one of the. Ideas AND i teaching you, know 898 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 3: my kids this, kids when they see another kid in the, 899 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 3: playground that's, dope they go in the other direction because they're. 900 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 2: Afraid of that and they want to go to the court. 901 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 4: Where they're the best, way they. Superior, yeah And i'm, like. 902 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:08,919 Speaker 2: Go to the. Dudes go to that. Dude, yeah you get. 903 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 3: There AND i remind everybody About Jay kid And Gary 904 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 3: payton and How gary used to beat up On jay 905 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 3: and If jay wanted to, play he had to buckle 906 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 3: up and play. Ball and so that's HOW i felt 907 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 3: about The Big. East kerry was there A i was, 908 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 3: There like WHEN i played against, them it wasn't just you, 909 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 3: KNOW i want to, win but it's this is not 910 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 3: a matchup between the both of, us but our. 911 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 2: Teams you, KNOW i think we. 912 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 3: Probably had, seven seven or eight teams in THE uh 913 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 3: in the dance that year because everybody was. Hooping everybody 914 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 3: was and right then it's like you, learn like when 915 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:49,919 Speaker 3: the team, wins everybody receives some type of reward or 916 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 3: a great benefit from the success of that end of that. 917 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 3: Team you, know we we Had Darn shepherd got, Drafted 918 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 3: Travis knight got. Drafted, Uh Donny marshall got, Drafted Honie. Marshall, 919 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 3: yeah you, know that's that's. It SO i learned early 920 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 3: like let's win and then the chipping gonna fallward they 921 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 3: fall and. 922 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 5: Man shout out To carrie Kentles. Man no hot, socks, baby. 923 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 2: Hot. Socks yeah he had. 924 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 5: Me and THEN i remember when he used to wear 925 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 5: the one last sock and no another, one like had 926 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 5: a swag back in the, day real. 927 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,879 Speaker 1: Tough my favorite draft class is the ninety six y'all 928 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: boys had a special and to look back on it 929 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: now since you were tired to look back on it 930 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: and just to see all them hit. 931 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 4: Us, yeah, YEAH i had on y'all draft. 932 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: Class how is that to just be a part of 933 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: the probably the best draft class ever. 934 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 5: To Be, yeah you, know, arguably you know it's a little, 935 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 5: argument but y'all to be part of that argument is. 936 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 3: Dope well, Yeah And i've always looked at eighty four 937 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 3: AND i, thought you, know how amazing that that class was. 938 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 3: There AS i started to look at eighty fourd AND 939 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 3: i looked at at ninety six top to, bottom, yeah 940 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,439 Speaker 3: top the, bottom and and BUT i don't even throw 941 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 3: something out there that needs. Recordgnition It's Ben. Wallace Ben 942 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 3: wallace didn't get. 943 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 5: DRAFTED i, said he got acknowledgement in the little thing 944 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 5: though like he obviously back then it was he wasn't 945 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 5: in the, picture which none of. 946 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 3: That but, yeah, yeah But Ben wallace is he was 947 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 3: just announced for The hall Of. 948 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 4: Fame. 949 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 3: Yeah the fact that he had such an impact in 950 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 3: the time that he, played based on where he came, 951 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 3: from speaks volumes to you know that that, class you, 952 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 3: know those freshmen coming into our rookies coming into THE 953 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 3: nba that, year you, know you you when you talk 954 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 3: top to, Bottom Derek fisher has five, Rings Eve nash 955 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 3: has two. 956 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 2: MVPs ai has THE. 957 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 3: Mvp you, know we Have Callas All stars And, olympians 958 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 3: uh and Now hall Of. Famers so it certainly produced a. 959 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 3: Lot and the interesting thing too IS i don't know 960 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 3: if you guys ever done, this but just go back 961 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 3: and look at your draft class and look at the 962 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 3: one before and look at the one, after and you 963 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 3: remember all these players and guys you look up, to 964 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 3: and then what you realize is each draft class only 965 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,280 Speaker 3: has like two or three players that you remember remember 966 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 3: like that put in. Work some guys you remember their, 967 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 3: names you might have remembered them in college or. 968 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 2: Whatever but guys that actually put it in the. 969 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 3: Work you, Know, yes it's only there's only like two to, 970 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 3: three you, know real guys per. Class so when you 971 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 3: talk about a class that produces so Many hall Of, famers, 972 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 3: LIKE i don't, know you, KNOW i could take credit 973 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 3: for it ALL i, want BECAUSE i was a part of. 974 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 3: It BUT i did my, part you, know because the 975 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 3: thing that drove me crazy AND i told, THIS i 976 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 3: wrote this to my. BOOK i wrote a book three years. 977 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 3: Ago it is called from The. Outside AND i always 978 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 3: used to say This slam. Magazine you know on the 979 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 3: cover that on the inside of that that cover they 980 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 3: had the accolades of most likely to WIN mvp win 981 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 3: championships and my name was nowhere but one spot and 982 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 3: it said most likely lead to fade into. Obscurity, Yeah 983 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,919 Speaker 3: and so you, know, me being a somewhat well read young, 984 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 3: MAN i was, LIKE i THINK i know what obscurity, 985 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:11,840 Speaker 3: means but let. 986 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:12,919 Speaker 2: Me look look. 987 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 3: Sure and for the first four or five years of my, 988 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 3: CAREER i did not want to do any interviews With 989 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 3: slam because it kissed me off so much, that you, 990 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 3: know y'all kind of rote me, off like all this 991 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 3: that you could have, said and you you, SAID i 992 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 3: but the truth be. Told after, THAT i realized that 993 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 3: that's what we. Need that's WHAT i needed at the, 994 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,839 Speaker 3: time because you, know you you you. Motivation, yeah back 995 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 3: to what we're talking. About high, school you get, them 996 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 3: you get comfortable and think that you made it and 997 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 3: then things are going to be easy from here on. 998 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 3: Out that's when you. Slip you, know you can't get. 999 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 3: Comfortable you, know you get, comfortable and then all of a, 1000 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 3: sudden that's when your skill sets start to. Diminish that 1001 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 3: adversity is what all of our children, need because you, 1002 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 3: know all these kids was, like, Man i'm gonna make 1003 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 3: every team that didn't pick. Me, hey the fact that 1004 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 3: you got drafted nineteenth might be the reason that you 1005 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 3: became AN mvp or An All star or An. 1006 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 4: Olympians you went to a team that can help instead 1007 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:13,879 Speaker 4: of a young. 1008 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 3: Team, yeah and if you got drafted number, four that 1009 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,720 Speaker 3: might have sent you into a different lectory that wouldn't 1010 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 3: allowed you to accompisence at your college because you came 1011 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 3: in with the with the cool man, struck you, know 1012 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,959 Speaker 3: and you've seen a lot of players do, that so. 1013 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 2: And you're one of those. 1014 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 5: Guys just you, KNOW i just was watching your draft class, documentary, 1015 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 5: right and so seeing that it showed me, one you, 1016 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 5: know one of the few other sides of when you're 1017 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 5: actually at the draft and you're getting drafted And i'm 1018 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 5: watching you when you were a guy who got drafted 1019 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 5: to a team you didn't work out for what got, 1020 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 5: traded and it was like your experience didn't seem just like, 1021 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 5: Hey i'm joyous something like it was kind of like 1022 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 5: seemed like, confusion Like i'm trying to figure what the 1023 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 5: hell is going, on figure it out and what's what's 1024 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 5: really going? On so, like walk me through your your draft. 1025 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 5: Experience like you obviously you got to walk across that 1026 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 5: stage to Shake david, sternhand which we all dreamed, of 1027 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 5: but yours came with a caveat because even in that, 1028 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 5: moment you really didn't understand what was going on because 1029 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 5: you didn't work out for this team and all of 1030 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 5: these different things were going. 1031 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 2: On so take me through your draft. 1032 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 3: Experience that, Year philly had the first, pick Then, Toronto, Vancouver, Milwaukee, Minnesota. 1033 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 3: Boston they projected me as a top four. Pick SO 1034 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 3: i went To, PHILLY i worked out with, them but 1035 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,360 Speaker 3: they were gonna PICK. Ai that was a wasted. TRIP 1036 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,839 Speaker 3: i went To. TORONTO i met With Isaiah, thomas who 1037 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 3: was THE Gm director of The player president at the, 1038 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 3: time AND i just had to meet with. HIM i 1039 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 3: didn't have to work out. ANYTHING i went To. Vancouver 1040 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 3: that was my hardest. Workout they put you through agilly, training, lifting, shooting. 1041 00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 3: Everything and so day before the draft out IN la 1042 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 3: and they called me In minnesota wanted to meet with, 1043 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 3: me AND i was, like why AM i going To. 1044 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 3: Minnesota milwaukee was probably one of the hardest ones BECAUSE 1045 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,280 Speaker 3: i landed In. Chicago there was. Weather you, Know chicago 1046 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 3: is not the place to fly into in the. Summertime 1047 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 3: it's always something some weather coming. IN i had to 1048 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,839 Speaker 3: play With Chris robinson one on one he had just, 1049 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 3: finished and THEN i had to Play Mike Dunn leedy 1050 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 3: one on, one and SO i didn't know What i'm 1051 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 3: playing this old? Guy what AM i supposed to be doing? Here, 1052 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 3: Like i'm playing this guy that he's trying to turn 1053 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 3: If i'm good or. NOT i had a great meeting 1054 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,879 Speaker 3: with the owner, there and then so COME i went 1055 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 3: TO la to do some interviews and Then i'm flying 1056 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,759 Speaker 3: back to meet my family In New york And minnesota, says, 1057 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 3: hey we love to meet with you before. 1058 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 2: Draft AND i was, like, no thank. You so come. 1059 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 3: DRAFT i was, like so all the teams that want 1060 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 3: me or see. ME i figured THAT i was going 1061 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 3: To milwaukee before the. DRAFT i leave my hotel red 1062 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 3: hour back and mL carr calls me, says, listen if 1063 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 3: you slipped to, six we're going to take you with our. 1064 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 3: PICK i was, like, okay, COOL i need to go To. 1065 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 3: BOSTON i was, LIKE i don't know the chances that 1066 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 3: are so come to fourth pick When minnesota Or milwaukee Picked. 1067 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 3: STEPHAN i knew That milwaukee was high on me and 1068 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 3: they Picked, stephan SO i was, Like i'm going To. 1069 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:21,839 Speaker 2: Boston right. 1070 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 3: In the minute The minnesota pick comes, up the cameras 1071 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 3: come to, me And i'm. Confused i'm, like why are they? 1072 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 3: Coming why are they picking? Me LIKE i Don't and 1073 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 3: THEN i knew they Had Ji, ryder so why are 1074 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 3: they picking me at the two? Spot WHICH i didn't 1075 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 3: know THAT i was being used in the trade which 1076 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 3: ended up getting In Andrew, lane you, know and myself 1077 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,799 Speaker 3: in the two player spot For Stephan. Marlberry that's Why 1078 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 3: milwaukee took them off the, table because they knew how 1079 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 3: Bad minnesota wanted Step so you learn those things later 1080 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 3: on after you've gone through it and you understand the 1081 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 3: business side of. It AND i WISH i knew it 1082 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 3: then SO i could have enjoyed the process. More it's 1083 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 3: just it's such A we've been on such an incredible, 1084 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 3: journey and you, know to be here on the other 1085 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 3: side of it and to be able to talk about 1086 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 3: it and share our, stories you, know between you, MYSELF 1087 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,839 Speaker 3: i THINK i can speak for both of you when 1088 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 3: WHEN i, say AND i tell all the kids, this 1089 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 3: that all of my dreams have come true and that 1090 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 3: right there is an amazing feeling to. Have, NOW i 1091 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 3: still continue to dream AND i can continue to have 1092 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 3: aspiration to do other. Things but as a, kid you, 1093 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,320 Speaker 3: know the things That i've done up to this, point 1094 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 3: like where everything and more THAN i could ever. 1095 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 5: IMAGINE i think that too is another thing that you, 1096 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 5: know not at the outset or not at the, start 1097 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 5: but you, know and doing this, podcast that's something That 1098 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 5: i've That i've learned about about. Myself you, know about 1099 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 5: both of us, actually you know that that we are 1100 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 5: examples for not only you, know players that have played 1101 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 5: in the, league or guys you know behind, us young 1102 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 5: guys coming, up or just kids in. General that life 1103 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 5: ain't gonna always be. Perfect life wasn't perfect for me Or. 1104 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 5: Black and you know What i'm. Saying we and both 1105 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 5: been through the. Ring i'm sure you've been through your 1106 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 5: ups and, downs regardless of how much, fame status accollade. 1107 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 5: Anything we all humans and we you, know we go 1108 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 5: through what we go through and were not. Perfect BUT 1109 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 5: i feel like you know me and D males with this, 1110 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 5: part you and your life is the example of everything you, 1111 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 5: accomplished like we walking examples of regardless of what you go. 1112 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 5: Through like you, said if you, persevere you continue on 1113 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 5: that you could get to the other side of it 1114 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,399 Speaker 5: and do what you want to. Do But lord, knows 1115 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 5: we don't look like what we've been. Through and it's 1116 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 5: like it's a blessing for us to be able to 1117 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 5: be here and do all of these things that we're 1118 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 5: able to, do sit here and talk to we sitting 1119 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 5: here talking To jesus shuttles work right. 1120 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 2: Now i'm gonna. 1121 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 5: Keep saying that because this is like you know What i'm, 1122 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,320 Speaker 5: Saying LIKE i don't care what nobody. Say don't retro 1123 00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 5: thirteens is The jesus shutter work them To, denzels feel 1124 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 5: me them to them that, day, Y'all like you know 1125 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 5: What i'm, Saying like you know What i'm, Saying like 1126 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 5: you identified with the culture in the way that some 1127 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 5: people can't no matter what, Happened like you know What i'm, 1128 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 5: Saying like you being in that movie was like. 1129 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 2: What he got a? 1130 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 5: Game like when that, drop, bro you LIKE i don't 1131 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,319 Speaker 5: Need like what was that like for you to? Be 1132 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 5: like did you even know going, well you. Couldn't it's 1133 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 5: no way going into the movie you knew that it 1134 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 5: would become what it's, become and mean what it's meant 1135 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 5: to the culture and all, That but just what was 1136 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 5: your feelings. 1137 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 2: When you got to call? It, Hey, Spike lee want 1138 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 2: you to be in the? 1139 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 4: Movie right with Tenzl. 1140 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 2: WASHINGTON i didn't know any of that leading up to. 1141 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 3: Him and it started because we're playing in the garden 1142 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 3: early to See Alan houston killing me, too, well, yeah, 1143 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 3: yeah they. 1144 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 2: Don't people. Don't nobody never one of the colds big, 1145 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:08,399 Speaker 2: man that's all that jump shot was. Water, yeah so 1146 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 2: he's killing. 1147 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 3: Me he might have fourteen or fifteen a, half and you, 1148 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 3: Know spike's, like you're gonna Guard alan to night what 1149 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 3: you're gonna? Do and so the end of the, season you, 1150 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,239 Speaker 3: Know allan probably had like eight or, nine wasn't doing 1151 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 3: what he did before The spike was over there trying, 1152 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,319 Speaker 3: to you, know get my. ATTENTION i was ignoring him 1153 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 3: BECAUSE i thought he was going to go in on, 1154 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 3: me and then he finally got my. Attention he told, 1155 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 3: me he, Said, Hey i'm shooting this movie when you're season, 1156 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,799 Speaker 3: though would come audition AND i was, like bet, SO 1157 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 3: i gave him my. INFORMATION i was just In, connecticut 1158 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 3: SO i drove in like you, know every, week AND 1159 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:41,879 Speaker 3: i started doing these. 1160 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 2: Auditions AND i remember the first AUDITION i. 1161 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,760 Speaker 3: DID i did with the Cole Ari parker and then 1162 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 3: like we had to do. 1163 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 2: These love scenes and THEN i did a love scene 1164 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 2: With Sally. Richardson SO i was coming in AND i was, like, oh. 1165 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1166 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 2: Yeah because they're auditioning for the role Of. Lolah So 1167 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,439 Speaker 2: i'm over here and that's before anybody is anybody and. 1168 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:17,839 Speaker 3: You just, yeah we're doing kissing scenes and. Stuff so 1169 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 3: the third TIME i come, In denzel's. 1170 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:26,719 Speaker 2: There what's that? Like you, KNOW i guess when you come, from. 1171 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,759 Speaker 3: You, know being in THE nba and you're around all 1172 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 3: these Other i've been Around Michael jordan's so that that 1173 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 3: or right there when, yeah you've been around that ar, 1174 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 3: so so it's no. Different you, know you've been around 1175 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 3: people and seeing celebrities come to you play so, so 1176 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 3: but he comes to, room he's got this. 1177 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 2: AFFRO i don't you, KNOW i don't really have an 1178 00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 2: understanding of what's going on or what's. 1179 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 3: On and so we start doing talking and he's so. 1180 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,320 Speaker 3: Great one of THE i think one of the greatest 1181 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 3: attributes a person can have a part of their character 1182 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,359 Speaker 3: is to allow other people to feel comfortable around, them 1183 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 3: to disarm a, person and that's How denzel. Is that's 1184 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 3: how he was because he, immediately you, know start talking 1185 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,800 Speaker 3: about basketball and shooting the ball and just talking about 1186 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 3: my game and asking pitting me in questions and it 1187 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 3: was never about. Him and so he gave me a, 1188 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 3: Place he gave me a space to be able to 1189 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,359 Speaker 3: have a voice and the talk to. Him and it 1190 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,840 Speaker 3: wasn't like you, know some people you get to and 1191 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 3: they start talking and you can tell they don't want 1192 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 3: to listen to you or nothing that you're talking about. 1193 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 3: Whatsoever and that's fine, too but you know the people 1194 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 3: that are your type of. People and Then dell From 1195 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,239 Speaker 3: Jump street was that guy that always we'd be sitting 1196 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 3: on the set and then he'll start talking about and he's, LIKE, 1197 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 3: yo tell me about About Big. Dog What's Big dog? 1198 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 3: Like and we're about to shoot a scene and we're talking. 1199 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 3: Basketball SO i had to acting. Coach my acting coach is, 1200 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 3: like you got to stop talking to. Him, yeah she 1201 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 3: wanted me to be in character because in this, Scene 1202 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,759 Speaker 3: i'm supposed to be mad at, Him so she didn't 1203 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 3: THINK i could have a conversation with him and then 1204 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 3: to be mad at. HIM i was, LIKE i know 1205 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 3: how to, compartmentalize like you, know and that was him. 1206 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 3: Too he would sit there and he would be talking 1207 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,920 Speaker 3: and all of a, sudden he was gone the minute 1208 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 3: the camera was. ROLLING i equated he in spiked to 1209 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 3: a great point guard because what they would do is 1210 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 3: they would put you in a situation And spike would 1211 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 3: do it real. 1212 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:34,800 Speaker 2: Fast he would ask them for. 1213 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,439 Speaker 3: Certain things and he expects you to hit, it and 1214 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 3: But denzel would just throw it at. YOU i had 1215 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 3: one of the one of the funniest guys on the 1216 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 3: set With Roger, Runner Beer, spith Big, willie you, know light, 1217 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 3: skin do right. 1218 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 2: Thing he was in character the whole time was. 1219 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 3: SET i mean we'd be sitting down having lunch and 1220 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 3: he'd come over there doing lines if we'd be sitting 1221 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 3: there eating and HE i mean he didn't he never left. 1222 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 3: Characters and so what you find out like from all 1223 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 3: the people on, set like everybody is different in their acting. 1224 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 3: Styles and so for me that helped guide me because you, 1225 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 3: know the first scene and check us. 1226 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 2: Out we had a we had a Brand. 1227 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 3: Jordan the meeting in In soho on the morning we 1228 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,400 Speaker 3: had because we were talking about a bunch of gear 1229 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 3: and how to do this and. That whether it was ninety. 1230 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 3: Seven So finley was, there Then babon was. THERE i 1231 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 3: Think derek and was. There and So spike asked. Me he, Said, 1232 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 3: hey we're shooting this scene In Coney islands tonight and 1233 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 3: we need more. Players ask the guys if they want 1234 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,919 Speaker 3: to come down super. Scene SO i told these, DUDES i, Said, 1235 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 3: Yo i'm doing this. Movie if y'all want to be 1236 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 3: in a, movie come down with the Scene. Coney you 1237 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,920 Speaker 3: know when guys here, that the person's, like oh, Man i'm, 1238 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 3: Good i'm. Good Michael finley seen The money movie come. 1239 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 3: Out he, Said, man why you ain't tell? 1240 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 2: ME i, SAID i did tell. 1241 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 4: You, yeah. 1242 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah But Ben baker he came And Ben baker was 1243 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 3: In you hear him in the over the. Scene they 1244 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,440 Speaker 3: call him Big man and we're running and down the. 1245 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 3: Floor it's about three in the, morning we're shooting On 1246 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 3: Coney island and he's the funny thing With then he 1247 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 3: told me he goes. Man when the movie came out, 1248 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 3: Like i'm telling everybody That i'm in the. Movie SO 1249 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 3: i get to the. Theater we're running, late AND i 1250 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,439 Speaker 3: get in there AND i watched them the whole, time 1251 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 3: AND i didn't never see my, part and so he called. 1252 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 3: Me he's, like, MAN i ain't in the. MOVIE i was, 1253 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 3: like you are in the. 1254 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:37,960 Speaker 2: Movie you're in the. 1255 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 3: Beginning so he brings some people to the movie and 1256 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 3: he's in the, beginning but he missed his part because 1257 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 3: it's the opening. Scene so we played, basketball we were 1258 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 3: in the. Projects it. Was it was every single. Day 1259 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 3: it gave me a greater appreciation movies from long. Hours, 1260 00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 3: yeah every time we would shoot these. Scenes it Was 1261 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 3: it was interesting because the people that work on the, 1262 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 3: movie like do, lighting, continuity like all these different. Positions 1263 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:08,920 Speaker 3: they come up to me and, say how did you 1264 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 3: learn how to do all that? Stuff because they know 1265 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 3: nothing about THE. Nba they ASSUMED i was an, actor, 1266 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,960 Speaker 3: right so they were, like how did you learn how 1267 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 3: to do all this? STUFF i was like just just 1268 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 3: over the, YEARS i just you, know taught. Myself and 1269 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 3: in a lot of times the pressure was on me 1270 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:29,360 Speaker 3: because midday and at, night from lunch to, dinner there 1271 01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 3: was craft, services so there was always. Food we only 1272 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,959 Speaker 3: got to eat WHEN i finished the. Scene so they're 1273 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 3: waiting for me to knock the scene out so we can. 1274 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 2: Go So i'm over. Here everybody's, Like, herry your ass, 1275 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 2: up do your. 1276 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 3: Thing we didn't, eat so so it was it was. 1277 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 2: CERTAINLY i really enjoyed. IT i loved. 1278 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,640 Speaker 3: IT i was sad THAT i did one other, movie 1279 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 3: BUT i hadn't been able to do anything. 1280 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 2: ELSE i mean. 1281 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 3: Timing, uh you, KNOW i still have an agent that 1282 01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,360 Speaker 3: brings me scripts AND i read stuff BECAUSE i love 1283 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 3: to to do more movies in the next couple of. 1284 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 3: Years because Remember Sammarl, Jackson Marian, freeman they started late 1285 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 3: in there. There, YEAH i Think Marian freeman was like 1286 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 3: in his fifties when he first got it. 1287 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,439 Speaker 4: Role see that dude. Too. 1288 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah so you, know you, guys you haven't your 1289 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 3: agent like tell, them you, know because you, Remember hollywood 1290 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 3: is about. Casting you find a look that they're going, 1291 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 3: for and you, know Like common is doing a lot 1292 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 3: of stuff now and with movies AND, tv so it's. 1293 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 5: You, know black you, know black. Deer you, know he 1294 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,919 Speaker 5: didn't been in a few. Movies it up and doing 1295 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 5: his thing we'd have been on. Shows i'd have been 1296 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 5: out a little bit with. Her you, know we got 1297 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 5: a Little but that was awful seeing you on the. 1298 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:41,480 Speaker 4: Screen. 1299 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 1: Man LIKE i said that, MOVIE i watched that movie 1300 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 1: so much BECAUSE i felt LIKE i related to. It 1301 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 1: it was like it was my. Life it was you, 1302 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 1: know like from the, colleges from like. Everything it just 1303 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 1: felt like the people around just like it was like my. 1304 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,880 Speaker 5: Story then you had time, out time, out time. 1305 01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 2: Out let me let the time. OUT i would be. 1306 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 5: Remissed for myself and for the fans is, listening we need. 1307 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 2: To know the big you college visit with Rig? 1308 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 5: Fox was there was there any parallels in real life 1309 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 5: or any of, yo but you said you can'd took 1310 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 5: care of? 1311 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 2: You was there was? It did you have a Rig 1312 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,000 Speaker 2: fox on that visit taking care of? 1313 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 3: You UNFORTUNATELY i did, Not but we you AND i 1314 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 3: know and other guys know that that, is you, know 1315 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 3: part of the, program like we dealt with that can. 1316 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 2: Be, yeah it didn't happen to. ME i think. That you, 1317 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:36,840 Speaker 2: know at the, TIME i wasn't a big enough. 1318 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,880 Speaker 3: Recruit but you, know coaches tell these, guys you know 1319 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,440 Speaker 3: you've seen it in a couple of, programs like a 1320 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 3: couple of coaches got fired because they, had you, know 1321 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 3: prostitution on their campus to try to Get Gira cruz 1322 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 3: to come to their. School so that's that's the. Thing 1323 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,280 Speaker 3: when When spike AND i went over the script and pre, 1324 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 3: production we went through this whole. Thing we talked about, 1325 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 3: everything uh that a young guy can. 1326 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 2: Experience we took it to in every. 1327 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 3: Angle we exacerbated so people understood at a an extreme 1328 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 3: level of what you. Face some guys it's, agents some 1329 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,960 Speaker 3: guys it's the. Girlfriends sometimes it's the. Relatives sometimes it's 1330 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 3: the high school. Coach sometimes just the brother or. Sister 1331 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,560 Speaker 3: in this, case For, jesus it was all those. 1332 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:22,120 Speaker 2: Things. 1333 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,480 Speaker 5: Yeah so in filming those, takes was it a lot 1334 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,680 Speaker 5: of takes you mold particular scenes or. 1335 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 2: You was just one shot shout and you got up 1336 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 2: out of scene saying in the dorm room saying that 1337 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 2: took eight. Hours, wow that's. Why. 1338 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 5: Wow i'm just, saying, man we got get people think 1339 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 5: WHAT i know people want. 1340 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:49,800 Speaker 2: To know about. 1341 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 5: That ever SINCE i ever saw that, movie that's All 1342 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 5: i've been never wanting to, say, like, man, BOY i 1343 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 5: know that ship shooting that movie scene was Just christy 1344 01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 5: like just being. 1345 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,200 Speaker 2: You a young, dude like, please like that was. 1346 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 5: CRAZY i remember seeing this And i'm, like this. 1347 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,840 Speaker 2: Is, well let me back you. Up let me back you. 1348 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,400 Speaker 3: Up so What spike did was normally on, set you 1349 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,320 Speaker 3: have AN a camera and you have A b camera 1350 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,160 Speaker 3: and and so around the set there's all these monitors 1351 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,640 Speaker 3: so you can see what's happening on the. Set so 1352 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 3: what he did was he closed the set so nobody could. 1353 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,120 Speaker 3: See you can only. Hear and then there was only 1354 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 3: one camera and he was he was another room watching 1355 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,440 Speaker 3: from that one. Camera and then he gave me the. 1356 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,600 Speaker 3: Option he gave me. This it was like a, strap 1357 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 3: like a, jockstrap he. SAID i, asked that's right, Up, 1358 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 3: yeah we is this about to go? Down like, okay, 1359 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 3: yeah look at. 1360 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,720 Speaker 2: Me and he, Said he's, like, listen whatever you guys, 1361 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 2: do it's might be the greatest moment in The. 1362 01:04:55,040 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 3: Yeah so SO i we started seeing and then we're 1363 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 3: just sitting there and it was all like we didn't. 1364 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:04,080 Speaker 2: You, know we acted. 1365 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,760 Speaker 3: It you, know it was great just and in the 1366 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,800 Speaker 3: scene we got what we needed to get to. 1367 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 4: Show the, visual WHICH i needed to show. 1368 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 2: What we wanted everybody to. See and. Understand but what 1369 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 2: was fascinating was WHEN i walked off, set man the 1370 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,920 Speaker 2: audio said, that, man my, brother my, brother. 1371 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:35,960 Speaker 5: My. Man this is WHAT i wanted to go back 1372 01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,439 Speaker 5: as before we moved on from the he got gaged 1373 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,720 Speaker 5: because this was a big part of my whole life and. 1374 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 2: Upbringing, like at what point did. 1375 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,400 Speaker 5: You realize that it had that type of an impact 1376 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,440 Speaker 5: on the culture and it was the cultural pheenom that 1377 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,920 Speaker 5: it was because, literally like you, said y'all took it 1378 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:56,560 Speaker 5: to the extremes with, everything but like everything in that, movie, 1379 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,880 Speaker 5: somewhere on some, level on some ending, spectrum it was 1380 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 5: truth that that was birth from you know What i'm. 1381 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 2: SAYING i think that's. 1382 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:08,360 Speaker 5: Why the culture really relates to it because so many 1383 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 5: of us grew up in different neighborhoods and we got 1384 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,560 Speaker 5: the big willies justlike the dudes just looking. 1385 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 2: Out or whatever you want to call. It then you got. 1386 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,440 Speaker 5: Girls then you got different type of agents or street 1387 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,040 Speaker 5: agents that when you become good they want to get by. 1388 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:27,240 Speaker 5: You you got different family members friends that want to try 1389 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,919 Speaker 5: and expose all those different. Things so at what point 1390 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,840 Speaker 5: did you, see, like, damn this really touched our, people 1391 01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,160 Speaker 5: like we relate with this us, like and WHEN i 1392 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,600 Speaker 5: say our, PEOPLE i mean like the basketball, players the 1393 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,760 Speaker 5: five thousand of us have made it to the. League 1394 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,680 Speaker 5: like all of us on some level have dealt with 1395 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:47,840 Speaker 5: all of those things that you dealt with in that. 1396 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,680 Speaker 5: Movie and that's what those ideas and those whole motives come. 1397 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,000 Speaker 2: From like at what point. 1398 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 5: Did you feel, Like, yo this is bigger THAN i 1399 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:56,720 Speaker 5: thought it was ever gonna. 1400 01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:02,240 Speaker 2: BE i don't know IF i ever understood the magnitude 1401 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 2: of uh he got. 1402 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:08,480 Speaker 3: GAME i remember going into we were playing In milwaukee 1403 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 3: that next year and when we ran out on the, 1404 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:15,320 Speaker 3: floor they played the theme song AND i was, Like, 1405 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 3: yo that's, dope like just to run out to, it 1406 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,960 Speaker 3: BECAUSE i felt like it was a moment of recognition 1407 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 3: that they were showing and it wasn't, like you, know 1408 01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 3: normally In milwaukee. 1409 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 2: They used to Play laverne And shirley when we used 1410 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:27,880 Speaker 2: to run, out. 1411 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 3: But they played, that and every DAY i get Called, 1412 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 3: jesus SO i, knew. 1413 01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 2: Like, listen that's one of the cold. 1414 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,920 Speaker 1: The history of the game Is jesus. First it's like 1415 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,080 Speaker 1: that go down in the history of the game top five. 1416 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,240 Speaker 3: Definitely, Yeah and no matter WHERE i go Whether i'm 1417 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,640 Speaker 3: in this, country around the, world people always call Me. 1418 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,640 Speaker 2: Jesus and you, know at first it, was you, know you're. 1419 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 3: You're, LIKE i played some golf With Olfanso ribero and you, 1420 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,480 Speaker 3: know people walking aroundton all the time and he's like 1421 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:10,360 Speaker 3: Names alfonso and so for, me at, first you, know 1422 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 3: it was like trying to get used to people call Me. 1423 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,360 Speaker 3: JESUS i wouldn't answer to. It but now it's like 1424 01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 3: it's just one of those things that it's cemented in. 1425 01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:22,360 Speaker 2: Stone now it truly. Is you, know it's like one. 1426 01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 3: Of those films that when you revisit the, nineties it'll 1427 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,559 Speaker 3: be something that for, us you, know, athletes it'll be 1428 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 3: something that will always kind of speak to the times 1429 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:35,160 Speaker 3: of which we grew. 1430 01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,400 Speaker 5: Up, yeah it's definitely one of those joints for me 1431 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,559 Speaker 5: because LIKE i feel like anybody who see that, movie 1432 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,720 Speaker 5: anybody is the top athlete or. ANYE i don't care 1433 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:49,840 Speaker 5: whether it's, basketball, football, baseball whatever it, is Like jesus 1434 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 5: shuttleworthsus that, athlete especially in today's game with all of 1435 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 5: this damn social media and these guys getting a million 1436 01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,559 Speaker 5: followers before every one of them kids Are jesus Show 1437 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:00,679 Speaker 5: worth they are. 1438 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,959 Speaker 2: Being pulled and tugged in a. 1439 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:07,280 Speaker 5: Billion different, directions taunted with, money, fame or whatever you 1440 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,600 Speaker 5: think before they even get. There and that's exactly what 1441 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 5: like when you're getting taken to the agent. House and 1442 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,599 Speaker 5: then everybody didn't dealt with, that whether it was being 1443 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,840 Speaker 5: sent jewelry at your dorm or being sent, money or 1444 01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,759 Speaker 5: being offered money and by a relative or a friend 1445 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 5: or you, know a teammate or whatever it may, be 1446 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:25,320 Speaker 5: we allay experienced. 1447 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:26,240 Speaker 2: That that's what made. 1448 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,320 Speaker 5: THAT i feel, like that's what made that movie, so you, 1449 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:33,040 Speaker 5: know so relatable to everybody because you, know earlier like 1450 01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 5: not so. Much, WELL i can't speak on what's going on, 1451 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,519 Speaker 5: now BUT i know in them nineties and them early two, 1452 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,040 Speaker 5: thousands that's when it was like in them eighties two you, 1453 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,720 Speaker 5: know that's when it was like people was paying like 1454 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:44,479 Speaker 5: they way it. 1455 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 2: Was everything was going crazy with being given. 1456 01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,000 Speaker 5: This and, that and it was like that shit was 1457 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:52,519 Speaker 5: just like, yo this movie Like Spike lee and the 1458 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:53,960 Speaker 5: timing of that, shit it was so. 1459 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,000 Speaker 2: Dope everybody is hooping right, now gotta feel. 1460 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 4: This they're laugh of. Me it definitely. 1461 01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 2: DID i watched it and we do uh he AND. 1462 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,479 Speaker 3: I i See spike at least uh once a year 1463 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:09,080 Speaker 3: in the, summer and we always talk about doing a 1464 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:14,959 Speaker 3: sequel because there's so much subject matter pertaining to young, 1465 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,000 Speaker 3: kids young, girls uh you, know. 1466 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,920 Speaker 2: Hoopers and LIKE i said, earlier like movies tell. 1467 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,519 Speaker 3: The story of the, time and who better to continue 1468 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:26,519 Speaker 3: to tell that story Than? 1469 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,880 Speaker 2: Spike what is it going to be a She got? 1470 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,240 Speaker 2: Game well we tussled with that a little. 1471 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:35,000 Speaker 3: Bit but again AND i say THAT i haven't said 1472 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,160 Speaker 3: to you guys, yet but what you've gone. 1473 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,880 Speaker 2: Through what you've experienced in your, life you got to 1474 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,360 Speaker 2: write a. BOOK i have one soon. TIME i won't. 1475 01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:47,479 Speaker 3: Whate so what happens is is since we played in, 1476 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 3: this in this this walk of, life we have people 1477 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:56,800 Speaker 3: that cover our our, lives you, know beat, writers, journalists 1478 01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,680 Speaker 3: and they tell stories about who we. Are and you 1479 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,880 Speaker 3: ever read a story somebody tells about, You it's not. 1480 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,280 Speaker 3: True you, know they say some things from their. Perspective 1481 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,519 Speaker 3: and so what happens is when you write a, Book 1482 01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,200 Speaker 3: because even WHEN i wrote my, BOOK i had to 1483 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,640 Speaker 3: tell this guy That i'm writing with that you, know 1484 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,280 Speaker 3: certain things happened over what did and what didn't? 1485 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:20,120 Speaker 2: Happen and you, know they they will switch the story. 1486 01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:26,559 Speaker 3: Around, secondly movies get transformed from. Books and then when 1487 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 3: movies about us become part of the, mainstream that gives you, 1488 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:35,880 Speaker 3: know black actors', roles black actors get. Roles then young 1489 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:40,800 Speaker 3: black children have the opportunity to see people In, america you, know, 1490 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,800 Speaker 3: thriving not always you, know being a pimp or a 1491 01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,120 Speaker 3: slave or a, prostitute or. 1492 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:48,840 Speaker 2: A drug dealer or gang. 1493 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:54,280 Speaker 3: Member those are the stereotypes that have been ways heavily 1494 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:59,719 Speaker 3: on who we are as. People but we have, doctors, lawyers, fireman, teacher, 1495 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,600 Speaker 3: professors you, know all walks of. 1496 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,360 Speaker 2: Life, so but the more we write, books the more. 1497 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:08,800 Speaker 3: We get people like us rolls and so it's IMPORTANT 1498 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,280 Speaker 3: u to put books out there because kids need. 1499 01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,920 Speaker 2: Inspiration and you, know all. 1500 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,720 Speaker 3: These stories that we talked, about it's great to be 1501 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,839 Speaker 3: able to read them and kind of take a journey 1502 01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:19,200 Speaker 3: through your. 1503 01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,639 Speaker 2: Life your life is like a museum. Now, yeah, yeah. 1504 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,840 Speaker 5: So my, my me And, Black SO I Spike lee's 1505 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,040 Speaker 5: story where we felt like we was in he got 1506 01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,560 Speaker 5: game right fast. 1507 01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:34,599 Speaker 2: Forward to what was AFTER i after our rookie. Year 1508 01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:35,080 Speaker 2: you know What i'm. 1509 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,519 Speaker 5: Saying me And black And miles here we get the phone, call, say, 1510 01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 5: Yo Jordan brand want to shoot a commercial with you 1511 01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:46,519 Speaker 5: and your boy and guess who's gonna Direct Spike lee crazy, 1512 01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:50,559 Speaker 5: Outside like, well they they about to fly us The 1513 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:54,280 Speaker 5: New York city and we about to do A Jordan brand. 1514 01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:55,920 Speaker 2: Commercial like just. 1515 01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,760 Speaker 5: A little between, You me And black and the rest 1516 01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 5: of the world listening The jordan's seventeens that came out 1517 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:02,240 Speaker 5: in the. 1518 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,400 Speaker 2: Briefcase me and D miles personally. 1519 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,559 Speaker 5: Feel like those are THE D males and THE Q Ridge, 1520 01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:09,720 Speaker 5: george because that was our. 1521 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:15,920 Speaker 2: Commercial we did the commercials for. Up it was the 1522 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,040 Speaker 2: Old School, guru The, guru The Old school. Joint we 1523 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,519 Speaker 2: was in the, church got us in the church and 1524 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,760 Speaker 2: we were In. Brooklyn UH. 1525 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:27,000 Speaker 4: I did one but. 1526 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:28,800 Speaker 2: One. 1527 01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 5: Together this was The jordan's seventeens with the strap and all. 1528 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:33,840 Speaker 5: That like those to this day that came in the, 1529 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,800 Speaker 5: Briefcase like we get people adding us and tweeting, us 1530 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:41,639 Speaker 5: like people use the briefcases. Tattoo they put their tattoo 1531 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,719 Speaker 5: gun and then they put their clippers in. There different 1532 01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,840 Speaker 5: people use, it but like those shoes right, There like 1533 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,040 Speaker 5: that was our moment where we felt like we're on 1534 01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,160 Speaker 5: top of the world, like, bro like you talking about 1535 01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:55,519 Speaker 5: some young kids at nineteen twenty years old flying out 1536 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,400 Speaker 5: to do a. Video first of, all we're doing A 1537 01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,880 Speaker 5: Jordan brand. Video jordan is our. Eyes he got us 1538 01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,120 Speaker 5: doing a. Video then we're doing spike leads directed up 1539 01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,760 Speaker 5: like get. There we got a damn trailer and all 1540 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:09,479 Speaker 5: this and he had a, trailer had my own, trade 1541 01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,479 Speaker 5: were like you like every single thing was like as 1542 01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,280 Speaker 5: big as it gets for we were, like, damn like 1543 01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,840 Speaker 5: this is. It and when them shoes, dropped like these 1544 01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 5: our shoes you y'all would see them seventeens like that 1545 01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,599 Speaker 5: was our one moment in the, sun like. 1546 01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,320 Speaker 4: With that, ship like they had our picture in there 1547 01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:28,960 Speaker 4: with the. Shoes we was like. 1548 01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,519 Speaker 1: That was the dope ass moment the world stopped When 1549 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,439 Speaker 1: jordan said we was gonna be On Jordan, brand be 1550 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,840 Speaker 1: on there with you and like the whole squad that 1551 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,640 Speaker 1: they already had before we, Came like how was it 1552 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,600 Speaker 1: for you when you found out you was gonna be 1553 01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:49,080 Speaker 1: On Jordan brand and you was gonna be Representing Jordan's. 1554 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,880 Speaker 5: And, wait you was the you was you were the 1555 01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:54,559 Speaker 5: original original, member, right you was The you're the original number. 1556 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:55,679 Speaker 2: ONE i WAS i. 1557 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,080 Speaker 3: Was that can only be one, first you, know if 1558 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,160 Speaker 3: there was, nothing it was. Nothing they were talking about. 1559 01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,000 Speaker 3: It so when they mentioned it to, ME i didn't 1560 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,120 Speaker 3: know what it was. Like it, wasn't you, know something 1561 01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:10,040 Speaker 3: that we had ever seen before BECAUSE i had always Worn, 1562 01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,000 Speaker 3: Nike so you, KNOW i was, Like i'm gonna Wear. 1563 01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,280 Speaker 3: Nike nike's gonna be our brother, company uh To. Jordan 1564 01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,240 Speaker 3: So i'm all for. It i'm down there, this you, 1565 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:19,800 Speaker 3: Know george's doing. THAT i want to be a part of. 1566 01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,920 Speaker 3: It and you, know just from where we are today 1567 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:26,639 Speaker 3: is so much has grown and come, out like from its. 1568 01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:28,880 Speaker 4: Beautiful it's, Beautiful. 1569 01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:34,120 Speaker 3: Yeah Like, Paris Saint jerman. Overseas you know how he. 1570 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,240 Speaker 3: COLLABORATES i did a two years. AGO i went to 1571 01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:42,360 Speaker 3: a sneaker con in In. DUBAI i did it on 1572 01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:42,920 Speaker 3: behalf of. 1573 01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,880 Speaker 2: Brand, jordans AND i remember seeing. 1574 01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:49,080 Speaker 3: THAT i, mean it's incredible to go to The Middle 1575 01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:52,160 Speaker 3: east and see shoes that you had on your feet 1576 01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:56,719 Speaker 3: on display because the some sneaker head you, know collected. 1577 01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,519 Speaker 3: Them and then you see the, collaborations you, know the 1578 01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:04,640 Speaker 3: different designers that that Build supreme and and And zach Was, 1579 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,840 Speaker 3: Zappla LIKE i got a chance to meet a lot 1580 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:12,080 Speaker 3: of those people and they're COLLABORATING U. P. 1581 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,720 Speaker 2: S N. Y just where it's come. 1582 01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,479 Speaker 3: From, like that's WHAT i love About nike And george 1583 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:21,320 Speaker 3: is that you know they've always had their pulse you, 1584 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,479 Speaker 3: know on the, streets on the. Culture, yeah giving people 1585 01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,600 Speaker 3: the platform to be able to enhance the brand and 1586 01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,440 Speaker 3: that you, know that's. 1587 01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,400 Speaker 2: All you hope Was. America you, know we Know america 1588 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:32,559 Speaker 2: as landed the free home of the. 1589 01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 3: Brave we've had a lot of, inequities, uh you know 1590 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,240 Speaker 3: for a long, time but when people do it, right you, 1591 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 3: realize like the diversity is what makes this great country 1592 01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:47,280 Speaker 3: incredible because you, know, black, brown, white you. 1593 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,280 Speaker 2: Know, Asian, jewish you, Know. 1594 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:53,519 Speaker 3: Muslim like that's the most fascinating thing in the world 1595 01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,720 Speaker 3: when people come together and you have a commonality in 1596 01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,439 Speaker 3: tennishes and sneakers and how. 1597 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,479 Speaker 1: You used to feel than you when you get them 1598 01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,200 Speaker 1: doings and you used to get them exclusive parent you, 1599 01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,599 Speaker 1: know you, things you got them things on and you know. 1600 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,320 Speaker 4: IT'S abc or it's one of THEM tv games and 1601 01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:11,080 Speaker 4: you know. 1602 01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,000 Speaker 1: Everybody is talking about these, Shoes like how does it 1603 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,280 Speaker 1: feel that when you used to have them exclusives on 1604 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 1: and you get out there and, play it feels like 1605 01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:19,160 Speaker 1: you completed the. 1606 01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:19,679 Speaker 4: Uniforms. 1607 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,719 Speaker 3: YEAH i mean it's fascinating to me to watch guys 1608 01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:28,160 Speaker 3: now that don't keep the same color. Patterns, yeah you 1609 01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,400 Speaker 3: add a little something to, it but you keep. It you, 1610 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,960 Speaker 3: know it's just keep. It keep your colors, right colors, 1611 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,360 Speaker 3: right don't throw something. Else you, KNOW i might accent 1612 01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:40,760 Speaker 3: a void color or, pain but you keep them base color. 1613 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:45,519 Speaker 3: RIGHT i just remember when social media became, big when 1614 01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,360 Speaker 3: when this stuff, started When bible was a, thing LIKE 1615 01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,920 Speaker 3: i would, be you, know wearing, shoes and then that's 1616 01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:55,360 Speaker 3: all they talked about after the game was that on my. 1617 01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:59,080 Speaker 2: Feet AND i was, like, wow this this is a real. 1618 01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,200 Speaker 3: Thing like there's a culture out there that exists That 1619 01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,639 Speaker 3: i'm a part of that you, know follows. 1620 01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,599 Speaker 2: This this is this is. Legit and you know. 1621 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,559 Speaker 4: That was our. Generation we was following. 1622 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,439 Speaker 1: It when we got in and he accepted, us we 1623 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:13,880 Speaker 1: like we part of this bomb. 1624 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:18,400 Speaker 5: Squad oh SO i get asked a, lot just like you, 1625 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,040 Speaker 5: say when The internet and the social media, STARTED i 1626 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,160 Speaker 5: get asked a, lot like Because i'm one of the 1627 01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,720 Speaker 5: long Time jordan and was, like man who got the. 1628 01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,880 Speaker 5: Best the only person THAT i really deferred to and, 1629 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:34,160 Speaker 5: say you know had a better pe game than me is. 1630 01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,920 Speaker 5: You and that becomes because of the longevity you had, 1631 01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,680 Speaker 5: Championship you had the long playoff runs and you know 1632 01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:44,439 Speaker 5: how they plan for that for. Us SO i missed 1633 01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,680 Speaker 5: that in LA i ain't getting no playoff. Runs and 1634 01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,360 Speaker 5: THAT i got it In. MIAMI i MEAN i got 1635 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,479 Speaker 5: it In. PHOENIX i got it In miami and then 1636 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,000 Speaker 5: In New. York Like New york is one of my 1637 01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,280 Speaker 5: ille stretches because that was like at the peak of 1638 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,719 Speaker 5: peas and it was like it was a different color. 1639 01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,880 Speaker 5: Like and that's the main REASON i say that, you 1640 01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:03,799 Speaker 5: me and you had some of the illesspees going because 1641 01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:07,960 Speaker 5: of our longevity with the, brand and then our teams 1642 01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:11,400 Speaker 5: were so far from the original colors that they were used. 1643 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:15,280 Speaker 5: To you can get them them greens and them yellows With, 1644 01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,400 Speaker 5: seattle and then the greens In boston and then even 1645 01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,000 Speaker 5: with the, gold the yellow and red and black In 1646 01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,880 Speaker 5: miami BECAUSE i had some ignorant stuff my one year 1647 01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:27,360 Speaker 5: In miami, Too so it's like that. Flavor and THEN 1648 01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,800 Speaker 5: i Say bibby was like a close right there Because 1649 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,799 Speaker 5: bibby had The purples And, sacramento, yeah and The atlantic 1650 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:33,280 Speaker 5: colors and. 1651 01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:34,760 Speaker 2: Stuff so he was right. 1652 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,320 Speaker 5: There but like the Long jefty, cause like, bro when 1653 01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,400 Speaker 5: they gave you the rain game, joints them elevens and, 1654 01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,200 Speaker 5: them SH i, say hold. 1655 01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:43,559 Speaker 2: ON i, say shut the damn. 1656 01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:47,720 Speaker 5: DOOR i, say you got ignorant when your ass had 1657 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:48,479 Speaker 5: to shoot around. 1658 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:53,280 Speaker 2: MISMATCH i, said ill HAD i tied damn. 1659 01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:56,719 Speaker 3: Man at the inn at the end and that right, now, 1660 01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,000 Speaker 3: listen they created packed me with them. 1661 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:07,600 Speaker 2: SHOES i remember all the, mismatch the elevens in the, nines. 1662 01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:12,439 Speaker 3: You, know the way the Way we're fortunate because we 1663 01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:16,400 Speaker 3: had you, know to your, point we were able, to you, 1664 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:20,080 Speaker 3: know have. Longevity SO i spanned you, know a couple 1665 01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:23,880 Speaker 3: of different generations playing in two decades and then having 1666 01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,519 Speaker 3: the different. Colors but then you, know later on playing 1667 01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:31,879 Speaker 3: you Know PRIMETIME. Tv you know you got The Christmas 1668 01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:36,760 Speaker 3: games all, yeah you got all the games that are poignant, 1669 01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,240 Speaker 3: MOMENTS nba moments From All Star. 1670 01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,439 Speaker 2: Games, yeah The olympics play two thousand. 1671 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,320 Speaker 3: Nights they had to construct something That AND i told 1672 01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,680 Speaker 3: me WHEN i WHEN i got the three point record In, 1673 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,720 Speaker 3: BOSTON i told, them you know when they stopped me at. 1674 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,800 Speaker 3: THIRTEEN i, listen it was like the day, before AND 1675 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,439 Speaker 3: i was pleading with. THEM i, SAID i need you 1676 01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,920 Speaker 3: to make these thirteens for. ME i need you to 1677 01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:02,720 Speaker 3: make them for me BECAUSE i can't just break this 1678 01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:04,439 Speaker 3: record and not have something special on my. 1679 01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,559 Speaker 2: Feet you, know this is going to always be a 1680 01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,679 Speaker 2: moment that Is are these the sugar? 1681 01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:10,880 Speaker 4: Right? 1682 01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,160 Speaker 2: Thirteen, yeah so it's. 1683 01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:17,760 Speaker 3: Hard, YES i had them shoes, on but listen how 1684 01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:21,200 Speaker 3: they got to. Me they, countered the countered the shoes 1685 01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,040 Speaker 3: to me by, playing and they got to me right 1686 01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:28,400 Speaker 3: before the, game and they made a mocked tub on the, 1687 01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:32,639 Speaker 3: green which means it was, written you know In. Arabic 1688 01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:37,320 Speaker 3: so you, know that's What jordan did for. Us they 1689 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,000 Speaker 3: made sure that we had our player. Exclusives they made 1690 01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:43,000 Speaker 3: sure that it was something that was special to. Us 1691 01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,599 Speaker 3: they wanted us to know and the people around us 1692 01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:48,120 Speaker 3: they supported. Us and those kids are going to buy those. 1693 01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:52,640 Speaker 1: SHOES i was AT Nba juniors In, orlando like a 1694 01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,519 Speaker 1: year or so. AGO i went to THE Nba. Jr 1695 01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,720 Speaker 1: your mom was. There we were sitting there watching the, 1696 01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:00,280 Speaker 1: game watching the championship game and just laughing and. She's 1697 01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,880 Speaker 1: she nudged. Me she, Said, hey SO i know you 1698 01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,479 Speaker 1: was With. Jordan's what do y'all do with all these? 1699 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:08,760 Speaker 4: Shoes? Like where do they? 1700 01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:10,519 Speaker 2: Go? Like what do y'all? 1701 01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,280 Speaker 1: Do he, Said Because i'm having the problem with my. 1702 01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,559 Speaker 1: Son got all these shoes and you don't know where 1703 01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,720 Speaker 1: to put? Them so what do you do with all 1704 01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,280 Speaker 1: these shoes and all this? Stuff you can? 1705 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:18,599 Speaker 4: Lect? 1706 01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:23,160 Speaker 3: Listen you, KNOW i THINK i never owned a pair Of. 1707 01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:26,080 Speaker 3: Jordan's WHEN i was growing, up my favorites were the 1708 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:29,519 Speaker 3: Fire Red. Force you can ask a kid what their 1709 01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:33,759 Speaker 3: Favorite jordan, is you can basically guess their age because 1710 01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:35,400 Speaker 3: how we grow, up you. 1711 01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,559 Speaker 2: Know LIKE i remember playing With, Beasley Michael. 1712 01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:41,160 Speaker 3: Beasley he was, like, Yeah bees was like my Favorite 1713 01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,920 Speaker 3: jeordan is the Sixteen joe sixteens. 1714 01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,720 Speaker 2: All day long as young ass like, you like. 1715 01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:53,559 Speaker 3: We were playing in the league in, sixteen like the. 1716 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,160 Speaker 3: Fours BECAUSE i was growing up AND i did, him 1717 01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,000 Speaker 3: and THEN i remember the kids in the. Neighborhood it 1718 01:22:58,120 --> 01:22:59,960 Speaker 3: just it takes us back to a time and place 1719 01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:04,160 Speaker 3: and so NOW i, actually BEFORE i got on you, 1720 01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,240 Speaker 3: GUYS i opened up about four or five boxes of, 1721 01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:10,280 Speaker 3: shoes and it's fascinating to be able to, see you, 1722 01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:13,280 Speaker 3: know the evolution of the shoes and you, know. Directionality 1723 01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,519 Speaker 3: i'm astounded that they continue to come over new and different. 1724 01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:21,200 Speaker 3: Ideas but we are still ambassadors to the shoe. Game 1725 01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:25,160 Speaker 3: we are sneaker. Heads we are What jordan hopes that 1726 01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,040 Speaker 3: we would be embodied the spirit of his shoe and his. 1727 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,280 Speaker 3: Legacy so WHAT i do IS i always try to 1728 01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,680 Speaker 3: keep that in. Mind and, whenever WHENEVER i get a 1729 01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,880 Speaker 3: box of, SHOES i you, know guys that wear shoes like, 1730 01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,400 Speaker 3: ME i make sure they have. Some but you, know 1731 01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,760 Speaker 3: for the most, PART i, collect you, KNOW i, continue you, 1732 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:43,519 Speaker 3: know because with. 1733 01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:46,639 Speaker 4: You if you collected, them you the all time. 1734 01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:53,040 Speaker 1: Collector BECAUSE i can just, imagine and. 1735 01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,599 Speaker 3: You, KNOW i gotta be careful BECAUSE i give away stuff, 1736 01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,280 Speaker 3: Too SO i GOTTA i gotta be careful WHAT i give, 1737 01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:02,840 Speaker 3: away because there's some shoes HANDLE i guarantee you, like 1738 01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:07,200 Speaker 3: IF i put a pair of, shoes a certain pair 1739 01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,640 Speaker 3: of shoes on, AUCTION i could get you, know at 1740 01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:14,559 Speaker 3: least thirty FIFTY i think THAT i THINK i would 1741 01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,000 Speaker 3: get raised thousand and four a pair of. 1742 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,559 Speaker 5: SHOES i got a couple of pair of you probably got, 1743 01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:22,960 Speaker 5: them dumb MILLION i. GOT i got two pairs in 1744 01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:24,720 Speaker 5: particulars off the top of my, HEAD i can think 1745 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,920 Speaker 5: cause out and saw for over thirty thousand on the. 1746 01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:31,000 Speaker 5: Internet the eminem fours and then the not the low 1747 01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,080 Speaker 5: cut but the mid Cut. 1748 01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:34,839 Speaker 2: Dereck jeter eleven swayed. 1749 01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:39,080 Speaker 5: Joints, yeah with the two on the back because the 1750 01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:43,880 Speaker 5: mid the low cut everybody got, apparently but the mids 1751 01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:44,720 Speaker 5: those go. 1752 01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,320 Speaker 2: Crazy AND i got a pair of both of. 1753 01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,280 Speaker 5: Them SHIPS i ain't like that's Why i'm, Said i'm 1754 01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,840 Speaker 5: not no sneaker, head BUT i just you, know WHATEVER i, 1755 01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:51,240 Speaker 5: GOT i. 1756 01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:54,519 Speaker 1: Get, Yeah like what you think about the new generation 1757 01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,599 Speaker 1: Of jordan, players and two of them players is From Saint. 1758 01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:02,160 Speaker 1: Louis you know my whole, Boys Bradley bill And Jason. 1759 01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:06,120 Speaker 1: Tatum but you Got Zaion, williams you Got Russell westbrook still. 1760 01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,400 Speaker 1: Representing you got Uh and he picked a lot of 1761 01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,599 Speaker 1: W nba. Players uh he picked some W nba PLAYER 1762 01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,240 Speaker 1: i think it Was Tia cooper and Uh NURSE i 1763 01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:17,040 Speaker 1: think she played For uh, yes, yes she played for 1764 01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:20,400 Speaker 1: the Sports now like just how the brand is evolving 1765 01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,519 Speaker 1: and got this new young talent of elite players to 1766 01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,960 Speaker 1: move to the next generation And zai just came out 1767 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,560 Speaker 1: with his new shoe Under, Jordan so how's that to 1768 01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,200 Speaker 1: see the next generation to push the brand even. 1769 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:34,280 Speaker 3: Further, again we talked a little bit about it, earlier 1770 01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:38,720 Speaker 3: but it's so important to try to, educate you, know 1771 01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,080 Speaker 3: these guys because they're gonna fall in our lap at 1772 01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:44,000 Speaker 3: some point in their. Life you, know you become, retired 1773 01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,120 Speaker 3: but while you're in that, position you know what you 1774 01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:50,400 Speaker 3: can do with that position to really take the brand 1775 01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,040 Speaker 3: to the next. Level because we we actually helped grow 1776 01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,479 Speaker 3: the brand to what it is. Today, yeah and uh 1777 01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,880 Speaker 3: and certainly THE. Nba so we have to do everything 1778 01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:03,360 Speaker 3: we can to give those young fellows a soft. Landing you, 1779 01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,200 Speaker 3: Know brad AND i talk whenever he's you, know he'll 1780 01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,720 Speaker 3: call me from time to time and we'll have a, 1781 01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:14,200 Speaker 3: conversation and THEN i try to give them space to ask, 1782 01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:18,840 Speaker 3: questions to seek. Advice that's the most important thing that 1783 01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:20,679 Speaker 3: we could do now in the space that that we're. 1784 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:24,600 Speaker 3: In and BECAUSE i always had older heads THAT i 1785 01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,439 Speaker 3: could talk, to because sometimes you can't talk to guys 1786 01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,840 Speaker 3: on your team they don't, understand or even your coach 1787 01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,120 Speaker 3: or even family. Members so to have somebody who's been, 1788 01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,400 Speaker 3: through what you what you've been through to be able 1789 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,400 Speaker 3: to you, know ask questions and then help you deal 1790 01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:40,400 Speaker 3: with things on your. Team bet are you, know super 1791 01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,200 Speaker 3: important and that's something that's. 1792 01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:47,240 Speaker 2: The role that we can play for those those young 1793 01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:48,280 Speaker 2: people in this role. 1794 01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,360 Speaker 3: NOW i just hope that they're humble enough to accept 1795 01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,240 Speaker 3: who we are and what we've been. Through because you, 1796 01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:58,160 Speaker 3: know it's not always apples and. Oranges you, know things 1797 01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:01,559 Speaker 3: you should hit the fan at some point where it's, 1798 01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:05,439 Speaker 3: okay like you know, something whatever's happened to you ten years, 1799 01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,880 Speaker 3: ago it ain't happened to you, now but it's happened 1800 01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,519 Speaker 3: to somebody, else and you, know bad shit continue to, 1801 01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,639 Speaker 3: happen will. Always it's how you respond to it which 1802 01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:18,240 Speaker 3: makes you who you. Are and SO i just my 1803 01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:21,320 Speaker 3: dreams for them would be just to use the platform and, 1804 01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,920 Speaker 3: really if you think about WHAT mj did for the, 1805 01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,360 Speaker 3: game just take that and grow it and continue to 1806 01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,920 Speaker 3: grow it so the people behind them can. 1807 01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,960 Speaker 1: Benefit WHEN i got on the preseason, team WHEN i 1808 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,120 Speaker 1: came out To, boston man LIKE i never had a 1809 01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:38,840 Speaker 1: teammate like you're A hall Of, Famer like any day 1810 01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,360 Speaker 1: you could just SAY i quit And i'm. Good you 1811 01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:44,160 Speaker 1: just won a, championship and the man we preseason and, 1812 01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:46,400 Speaker 1: man you two hours. 1813 01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:46,840 Speaker 4: Before the first. 1814 01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,920 Speaker 1: Bus you know What i'm, Saying like we getting to 1815 01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,760 Speaker 1: the gym on the first, bus you already soaking with 1816 01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:55,559 Speaker 1: and like in your shooting mode and in your. STUFF 1817 01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,720 Speaker 1: i never are the ten YEARS i, PLAYED i never 1818 01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,600 Speaker 1: had a teammate THAT i seen like. 1819 01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:01,519 Speaker 4: That AND i feel like. 1820 01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,160 Speaker 1: This, platform these the stories that you know they need 1821 01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,600 Speaker 1: to hear and see. That, like, man, man you was 1822 01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,639 Speaker 1: A hall Of famer out the, Gate LIKE i, said 1823 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:10,280 Speaker 1: you could have quit any, day and you're doing it 1824 01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:13,759 Speaker 1: during pre season like The seeds didn't haven't even started. 1825 01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,400 Speaker 3: Yet you know the, phrase if you stay, ready you 1826 01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:18,479 Speaker 3: never have to get. Ready that's kind of WHAT i 1827 01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:21,880 Speaker 3: subscribed to my whole career because you put yourself in 1828 01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:25,519 Speaker 3: a situation where in first when you get, drafted has 1829 01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,000 Speaker 3: a huge impact on, you because whether you have older 1830 01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,960 Speaker 3: players that teach you the, ropes and for, ME i 1831 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:35,520 Speaker 3: HAD i Had Elliott, Perry Michael, Curry armagilliam. 1832 01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:35,880 Speaker 4: Got rest Of. 1833 01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:43,160 Speaker 3: Soul, Yeah Johnny, Newman, Baker Sherman douglas like them, guys you, 1834 01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:44,920 Speaker 3: know they were no. Frills it would just go out 1835 01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,559 Speaker 3: there and. Play and you, Know Johnny newman was a 1836 01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:51,880 Speaker 3: great restore for me because this man came student and 1837 01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:53,360 Speaker 3: booted to every. 1838 01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,639 Speaker 2: Game and you, know he didn't. 1839 01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,400 Speaker 3: Compromise he came he loves my, job and that's WHERE 1840 01:28:58,560 --> 01:28:59,920 Speaker 3: i picked that up from with. Him and it was 1841 01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:03,000 Speaker 3: different back. Then but With elliott And Michael, curry we 1842 01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,800 Speaker 3: shot before every. Game you, know my first, YEAR i 1843 01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:07,360 Speaker 3: didn't have a, routine and THEN i got with those 1844 01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:10,160 Speaker 3: dudes and we would we come over, early and then 1845 01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:13,320 Speaker 3: eventually they get traded, away and you, know my career 1846 01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,880 Speaker 3: was like it was like life In. Milwaukee you know 1847 01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,679 Speaker 3: the singer, song and everybody started disappearing and they get, 1848 01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,360 Speaker 3: old and that's kind OF i. 1849 01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:22,639 Speaker 2: Was and THEN i was the last man. 1850 01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,760 Speaker 3: Standing and THEN i developed routines WHERE i had one 1851 01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:27,760 Speaker 3: person with, me or a coach or a ball kid 1852 01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:31,680 Speaker 3: from another. Team and the thing that always scared me 1853 01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:36,120 Speaker 3: was not being able to perform or do your. Job 1854 01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,640 Speaker 3: SO i was my biggest, critic and THEN i was 1855 01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:44,439 Speaker 3: my hardest strength coach or teacher or coach because WHEN 1856 01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:46,080 Speaker 3: i was in there working, OUT i knew HOW i 1857 01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,120 Speaker 3: needed to push. Myself so WHEN i did get into. 1858 01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:53,040 Speaker 3: GAMES i was so comfortable at all. ANGLES i was comfortable. 1859 01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:57,160 Speaker 3: EVERYWHERE i never you, know fatigue makes cowardies of us. 1860 01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,960 Speaker 3: All so the minute you get, tired you just had 1861 01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:04,480 Speaker 3: that you have that much of a less lift. 1862 01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:04,840 Speaker 2: On your jump. 1863 01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:08,360 Speaker 3: Side and SO i was in constant search of trying 1864 01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,639 Speaker 3: to keep that, lift you, know the same every time 1865 01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:13,599 Speaker 3: to my release point was at the same. Point SO 1866 01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,920 Speaker 3: i had to make myself as uncomfortable AS i could 1867 01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,680 Speaker 3: every single, time you, know on the back to, back you, 1868 01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:21,479 Speaker 3: know times WHEN i had a week, off like it 1869 01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,559 Speaker 3: was always trying to constantly find that that comfort level 1870 01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:25,639 Speaker 3: WHICH i was always. 1871 01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:27,559 Speaker 2: Uncomfortable SO i always tried to push. 1872 01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,160 Speaker 5: Myself and what year do you what you say you 1873 01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:32,840 Speaker 5: started the routine of being that, early because for, ME 1874 01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,439 Speaker 5: i would SAY i saw YOU i was IN. La 1875 01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,680 Speaker 5: this had to be a, year probably toward the end 1876 01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:42,240 Speaker 5: of year, two BUT i, know definitely my whole third 1877 01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:46,040 Speaker 5: year and. BEYOND i CAN'T i remember showing up to 1878 01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:49,080 Speaker 5: The Stables. Center whatever TIME i got, THERE i was 1879 01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,240 Speaker 5: probably before most of my. Teammates but you was out 1880 01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,639 Speaker 5: there like kind of like with. Dcing you was already 1881 01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:56,280 Speaker 5: you know What i'm, Saying you was an immediate. Workout 1882 01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:58,240 Speaker 5: WHEN i come walking after you was In. Seattle Then 1883 01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,200 Speaker 5: i'm come walking. Down i'm, like, damn, LIKE i, remember 1884 01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:03,120 Speaker 5: you know how some of the crew be around doing 1885 01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:03,600 Speaker 5: stuff on the. 1886 01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,519 Speaker 2: CARS i, say, yo, MAN i say how long how 1887 01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:06,160 Speaker 2: Long ray be? 1888 01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,200 Speaker 5: Here they, like, SHIT i don't, Know i've Been i've 1889 01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:10,360 Speaker 5: been doing this for about thirty forty five. Minutes and 1890 01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,160 Speaker 5: he was here BEFORE i started doing, This And i'm, like, damn, 1891 01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:15,640 Speaker 5: like you know What i'm. SAYING i was, like AND 1892 01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:19,720 Speaker 5: i remember asking asking one of the, coaches no matter of, 1893 01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:21,600 Speaker 5: fact wasn't one of the COACH i remember asking. 1894 01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:22,920 Speaker 2: Danzen, mason who played with? 1895 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:25,879 Speaker 5: You and THEN i remember Asking Mishard lewis Because rashawe 1896 01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,959 Speaker 5: was my. Boy i'm Asking, seart, like, man what time. 1897 01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:29,559 Speaker 2: Right begins to? 1898 01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:31,600 Speaker 5: Gym he was, like, Man ray asked you because you 1899 01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:33,720 Speaker 5: know sometimes he told me sometimes he would work with, 1900 01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:35,920 Speaker 5: you but like sometimes you you be there too early for. 1901 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,920 Speaker 5: Him And i'm, LIKE i started coming, early, RIGHT i 1902 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,160 Speaker 5: douinely don't Think i'll probably come deserves. You BUT i 1903 01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:43,240 Speaker 5: did that shit for the rest of my. CAREER i was, there. 1904 01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:44,519 Speaker 5: MAN i used to be there BECAUSE i used to 1905 01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,759 Speaker 5: want to get there before everybody else had a, shoot 1906 01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:49,240 Speaker 5: SO i could just get my shit out the way 1907 01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,679 Speaker 5: and nobody's balls knocking out in and now it ain't nothing. 1908 01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,160 Speaker 5: HAPPENED i can really get through my thing and then be. 1909 01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:56,240 Speaker 5: Done i'd be there when when you know the dance 1910 01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:58,640 Speaker 5: team there they going through the little dunk. Stuff some 1911 01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:00,479 Speaker 5: of the dunk people get out the way getting, on 1912 01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:02,640 Speaker 5: And i'm about to do my stuff real, quick SO 1913 01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:04,040 Speaker 5: i could be out of there and THEN i can 1914 01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:06,920 Speaker 5: kind of relax and do just chill WHEN i you, 1915 01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:08,320 Speaker 5: KNOW i like to talk a. Lot i'm sitting in 1916 01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,519 Speaker 5: the locker room talking to everybody by the time they get, 1917 01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:12,519 Speaker 5: there But i'm already done my. SHIT i started doing 1918 01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:14,800 Speaker 5: that like second third AFTER i saw you doing. 1919 01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:17,479 Speaker 3: It you, SEE i was getting there before the dunk 1920 01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:22,800 Speaker 3: squad and cheerleaders BECAUSE i figured, out, like, YEAH i 1921 01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:26,640 Speaker 3: figured out like HOW i needed to be to get you, 1922 01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:30,439 Speaker 3: know the WORK i need to put in, in you, 1923 01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,960 Speaker 3: know based on one TIME i, ate you, know WHETHER 1924 01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:34,880 Speaker 3: i was home on the, road and THEN i can 1925 01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:37,920 Speaker 3: get get my massage work, afterwards and THEN i can 1926 01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:41,160 Speaker 3: stretch and then because the whole the whole idea is 1927 01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:44,480 Speaker 3: obviously you don't want to exhaust, yourself but put yourself 1928 01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:49,960 Speaker 3: through a workout where you get a sweat that is on. 1929 01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,200 Speaker 3: Parallels so when you go into a, game your body 1930 01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:55,120 Speaker 3: has already been. There, yeah your heart is already. Conditioned 1931 01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:59,880 Speaker 3: and so WHEN i was In, SEATTLE i noticed because you, 1932 01:32:59,920 --> 01:33:01,920 Speaker 3: know when you get traded to a, team like you, 1933 01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:03,760 Speaker 3: know bruhs be looking at you on this on this 1934 01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,160 Speaker 3: side of, it at the corner of the eye to 1935 01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:08,640 Speaker 3: try to figure, out, like who is this, dude, like you, 1936 01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:12,200 Speaker 3: know because they knew or heard about WHO i was 1937 01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:15,320 Speaker 3: and when my my routine. Was but they're, like why 1938 01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,960 Speaker 3: Why milwaukee traded? Him so That i'm feeling everybody watching. 1939 01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,640 Speaker 3: Me and Then richard he would start coming in and 1940 01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:23,439 Speaker 3: he started seeing, it and he was, like, MAN i 1941 01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:26,120 Speaker 3: need to start doing this, ship you, KNOW i need 1942 01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:27,200 Speaker 3: to start you, know putting. 1943 01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:30,040 Speaker 2: In and then WHAT i started knowing and my. 1944 01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:34,320 Speaker 3: Routine started giving other people their routine BECAUSE i understood 1945 01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:38,080 Speaker 3: what it takes to be, consistent you, know because consistency 1946 01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,400 Speaker 3: is the number one key to being. Great you, know 1947 01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:43,720 Speaker 3: if you show up somewhere for ten, years you, know 1948 01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:49,560 Speaker 3: the inner workings of your, office your, workplace or whatever or, 1949 01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:52,320 Speaker 3: yeah you, know. 1950 01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah they're, like go GET d, MILES d miles here 1951 01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:57,720 Speaker 2: doing this and. 1952 01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:01,320 Speaker 3: That and so what it does is it it trendsforms 1953 01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:04,200 Speaker 3: because now when it's time to sign those, checks they 1954 01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:07,639 Speaker 3: got to pay who's the most valuable ones who make 1955 01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:12,720 Speaker 3: the operation go and who is not. Expendable and you, 1956 01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,479 Speaker 3: know for, ME i become everybody else's a routine because 1957 01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,840 Speaker 3: now they, know like, Clockwork i'm going to be, there 1958 01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:21,479 Speaker 3: good game or bad. GAME i always say the number 1959 01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:25,160 Speaker 3: one key to being great is being. Available and when 1960 01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:28,040 Speaker 3: you think about the most consistent thing that we as 1961 01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:31,680 Speaker 3: people have in our, life the most consistent, thing the 1962 01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:35,280 Speaker 3: thing that we see every single day is the. Sun 1963 01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:39,320 Speaker 3: think about. That the sun comes up every single. Day you, 1964 01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,839 Speaker 3: know depending on the summer and the, winter it'll, change 1965 01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:44,519 Speaker 3: the time will, move but it always comes. Up we've 1966 01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:47,400 Speaker 3: never questioned whether the sun comes. Up and the sun 1967 01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,479 Speaker 3: provides so much for. Us but imagine if one day 1968 01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,800 Speaker 3: the sun doesn't come. Up you know it's going to 1969 01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:54,479 Speaker 3: send a lot of people in the, panic and then 1970 01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:55,880 Speaker 3: you know a lot of shit will happen in the. 1971 01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:58,080 Speaker 3: World but we have faith that it's gonna come up 1972 01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,599 Speaker 3: every single. Day so if you, can if you can 1973 01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:05,200 Speaker 3: connect yourself to that consistency every single, day to be 1974 01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:09,960 Speaker 3: similar to that son in your, workplace you, know whether 1975 01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,439 Speaker 3: you're playing a sport or the, job, like people start 1976 01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:16,800 Speaker 3: to depend on that son to you, know plant, flowers 1977 01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:20,599 Speaker 3: to do your, work to cut the, grass to whatever 1978 01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:22,200 Speaker 3: it may. Be you depend on that and when they 1979 01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:27,280 Speaker 3: see your, consistency it gives them a breadth of experience 1980 01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:31,879 Speaker 3: of consistency for. Themselves that allows them to realize their greatness, 1981 01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:34,280 Speaker 3: too because now they see what it looked, like but 1982 01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:37,600 Speaker 3: there's nothing there for them early then they're just kind of. 1983 01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:42,240 Speaker 3: WAESOME i think With early it helped him realize BECAUSE 1984 01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:45,120 Speaker 3: i always said he can be one of the best 1985 01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:49,160 Speaker 3: players in THE, nba And, richard he knew who he 1986 01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:52,840 Speaker 3: wasn't and he worked itself into an incredible player and 1987 01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:56,439 Speaker 3: signed a huge contract and had a great. Career AND 1988 01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,960 Speaker 3: i like to think a lot of me being around 1989 01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:03,080 Speaker 3: him affected him in such a way that gave him 1990 01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:07,840 Speaker 3: that foundation so he can grow and becoming An All star. 1991 01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:09,960 Speaker 1: Player oh, YEAH i gotta speak on that BECAUSE i 1992 01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:12,080 Speaker 1: was in that conference With poislan and y'all used to 1993 01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:15,560 Speaker 1: KICK i ass all the. Time but, uh just For 1994 01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:18,360 Speaker 1: Shan lewis, man just like how he, was how he 1995 01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:20,759 Speaker 1: played this, game and you could tell he was so much, 1996 01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:23,080 Speaker 1: better you know What i'm. Saying AND i feel like 1997 01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:25,879 Speaker 1: he mest so well with you because you was. Absolute 1998 01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:29,160 Speaker 1: you came To seattle and you gave that spark that you, 1999 01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:31,920 Speaker 1: KNOW gp didn't leave after they did they, thing but 2000 01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:33,920 Speaker 1: you gave that spark and y'all start making the playoffs 2001 01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:36,640 Speaker 1: And Rashan lewis stepped a big time and LIKE i, 2002 01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,160 Speaker 1: say me guarding, HIM i can see it in this 2003 01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:41,920 Speaker 1: game how he just his level of, play like he 2004 01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:43,160 Speaker 1: knew where to be at at all. 2005 01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,599 Speaker 4: Times his spacing was always. 2006 01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:48,040 Speaker 1: Well he like you, say he never did nothing out 2007 01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:50,680 Speaker 1: of body that he don't do and he always was 2008 01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:51,560 Speaker 1: a complimentary. 2009 01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,479 Speaker 5: Player and, listen, people both of these, Boys ray and 2010 01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,640 Speaker 5: rash took times on my. Ass those were In japan Or. 2011 01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:03,280 Speaker 5: China what was saying we was we was In, China. 2012 01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:06,559 Speaker 3: China, Man BUT i wasn't PAY i wasn't on that 2013 01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:09,599 Speaker 3: trip BECAUSE i actually had. SURGERY i had a bone 2014 01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:11,880 Speaker 3: spur breakoff into my, ankle SO i missed the first 2015 01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:14,360 Speaker 3: twenty game of the season that. Year gave y'all fifty. 2016 01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:15,880 Speaker 3: One you know you hit. 2017 01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:17,920 Speaker 5: US i thought you hit us from maybe you hit 2018 01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:19,360 Speaker 5: us for something. Else, No, NO. 2019 01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:22,360 Speaker 2: I think that WAS i think that Was ramanovich played well. 2020 01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:26,719 Speaker 5: Too he somebody else in the first game hit like thirty, 2021 01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:32,759 Speaker 5: something BECAUSE i, REMEMBER i, remember no Except Murray. Flip 2022 01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:36,720 Speaker 5: it Was. Flip that's what Was philly Slipp. Man he look, 2023 01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:39,680 Speaker 5: look first game he lit us up for thirty or. 2024 01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:44,080 Speaker 5: Forty then came next game hit fifty. One only Reason 2025 01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:47,479 Speaker 5: i'm bringing this up because CLEARLY i wasn't a victim 2026 01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:47,920 Speaker 5: in all of. 2027 01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:48,519 Speaker 2: THIS i. 2028 01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:51,240 Speaker 5: WASN'T i wasn't ready to guy guard neither one of, 2029 01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,439 Speaker 5: them SO i could, say we bring this, up but 2030 01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:57,960 Speaker 5: it definitely. Happened i'm, like, oh, man BECAUSE i remember, saying, like, 2031 01:37:57,960 --> 01:37:59,879 Speaker 5: well we the, Message we sent it to the leaguas 2032 01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:02,439 Speaker 5: you anybody come get forty fifty on. 2033 01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:06,599 Speaker 3: That, yeah, hey you definitely you got to create some 2034 01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:08,519 Speaker 3: better defensive momentum for us. 2035 01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:08,840 Speaker 2: Today that. 2036 01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,120 Speaker 5: Shot, YEAH i wasn't see back. THEN i wasn't in that. 2037 01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,320 Speaker 5: MODE i wasn't trying to really do all, that. MAN 2038 01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,200 Speaker 5: i was trying, to you, know stay out the way 2039 01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:17,719 Speaker 5: and get. Buckets, yeah every Shot. 2040 01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:20,360 Speaker 1: Lewis LIKE i think coming From seattle going To, orlando 2041 01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:23,400 Speaker 1: he still had that, momentum like he just turned to 2042 01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:24,639 Speaker 1: a good, player a solid. 2043 01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:28,280 Speaker 5: Player what was your what did your routine consist? Of 2044 01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:30,640 Speaker 5: like you was taking all of, it you know What i'm. 2045 01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:32,760 Speaker 5: Saying you was comfortable in every. Shot like what was 2046 01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:34,920 Speaker 5: your Regular, like you know What i'm, Saying what was 2047 01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:36,439 Speaker 5: the regular routine for? 2048 01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:41,080 Speaker 3: You, WELL i MEAN i started shooting free. Throws that was, 2049 01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:44,439 Speaker 3: always you, know the. Baseline WHENEVER i felt LIKE i 2050 01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:46,439 Speaker 3: was losing my release was, OFF i just go to 2051 01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:48,599 Speaker 3: the free throw. Line like the YEAR i wanted three point, 2052 01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,080 Speaker 3: CONTEST i shot free throws before the, game just to 2053 01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:53,960 Speaker 3: work on that. Release the shooting part is just your, 2054 01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,160 Speaker 3: lift and that's something that you gotta get those lagers ready. 2055 01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:57,040 Speaker 2: For so that's. 2056 01:38:56,920 --> 01:39:01,280 Speaker 3: WHY i would always shoot five from the, baseline from the, 2057 01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:03,320 Speaker 3: corner from the top of the, key and then on 2058 01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:07,120 Speaker 3: the other, side and THEN i would do the same 2059 01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:09,080 Speaker 3: thing from the three point. LINE i would shoot, five 2060 01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:12,320 Speaker 3: BUT i would ALSO i would shoot ten. Altogether BUT 2061 01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:17,840 Speaker 3: i would run to half court back into you know those, 2062 01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:20,679 Speaker 3: spots and then WHAT i would do IS i would 2063 01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:23,720 Speaker 3: run underneath the basket BECAUSE i wanted to always work 2064 01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,800 Speaker 3: on my footwork coming from every different angle and then 2065 01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:30,000 Speaker 3: run in, transition and and THEN i would get on 2066 01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:31,679 Speaker 3: my knees and jump up and have a guy throwing 2067 01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:33,360 Speaker 3: the ball and shoot because NOW i had to work 2068 01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:36,840 Speaker 3: on getting lyft from a. STANDSTILL i had. TO i 2069 01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:40,439 Speaker 3: was trying to learn teach my body how to create 2070 01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:43,479 Speaker 3: its own momentum to get its. Lift it's one thing 2071 01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:45,720 Speaker 3: to be running, transition you, jump that's, easy but to 2072 01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:48,960 Speaker 3: be able to create the momentum as you have no 2073 01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:51,880 Speaker 3: energy or any inertia going, forward you got to just 2074 01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:54,920 Speaker 3: kind of create it with your. Body so that that's 2075 01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:56,960 Speaker 3: WHAT I that was the baseline for WHAT i would. 2076 01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:59,080 Speaker 3: Do and then SOMETIMES i would start off at all 2077 01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:01,360 Speaker 3: the way at at the inline and run all the 2078 01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:03,920 Speaker 3: way into my, shots BUT i had to make five every. 2079 01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:06,120 Speaker 3: Time and THEN i would do my pick and roll 2080 01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:08,120 Speaker 3: stuff top of the key and on the, elbows you, 2081 01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:09,840 Speaker 3: know coach of guard, me And i'd come, OFF i get 2082 01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:11,960 Speaker 3: into the middle and THEN i would do my post. 2083 01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:15,360 Speaker 3: Ups everything THAT i did covered every side of the. 2084 01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,479 Speaker 3: Court so the thing THAT i, learned AND i learned 2085 01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:21,480 Speaker 3: this through my, injury was Since i'm, RIGHT i, Dominant 2086 01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:24,880 Speaker 3: i'm quicker getting the ball, off you, know going over 2087 01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:26,600 Speaker 3: my right, shoulder because ALL i have to do is 2088 01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:27,120 Speaker 3: glance at the. 2089 01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:28,080 Speaker 2: Basket but on. 2090 01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:31,160 Speaker 3: The on the other SIDE i have to DO i 2091 01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:32,640 Speaker 3: have to turn all the way around and get back 2092 01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:36,519 Speaker 3: to my right. Eye SO i had to work get my, 2093 01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:40,320 Speaker 3: footwork and that is the, key is your footwork. Everywhere 2094 01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:43,439 Speaker 3: AND i always show, kids like when the balls come, 2095 01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:45,360 Speaker 3: in my lower body's already turned into the. Shot my 2096 01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:47,920 Speaker 3: body might be opened towards the, ball but my lower 2097 01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:52,000 Speaker 3: body is facing at the. Basket so ONCE i, go 2098 01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:54,080 Speaker 3: it's up and down the. Ball it's just being transported 2099 01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:55,960 Speaker 3: up in the air to that. Spot so it's learned 2100 01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:58,880 Speaker 3: HOW i had to teach myself how to relocate the 2101 01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,639 Speaker 3: ball from different positions on my, body you, know bring 2102 01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:04,040 Speaker 3: it from over here to then, here from over here to, 2103 01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:06,760 Speaker 3: here and from down. Here because you, know guys guard you. 2104 01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:08,760 Speaker 3: DIFFERENTLY i could bring the ball over here and still 2105 01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:11,400 Speaker 3: get to that, spot jump and create. Them so those 2106 01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:14,200 Speaker 3: are the things THAT i was working on every single, 2107 01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:18,080 Speaker 3: day like trying to relocate the ball and get comfortable doing, 2108 01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:20,000 Speaker 3: it and then being able to shoot free throws and 2109 01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:23,400 Speaker 3: here's the, thing and you guys know. This free throws 2110 01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:27,519 Speaker 3: are very. Emotional like when you get to the free throw, 2111 01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:30,280 Speaker 3: line you to think about it as much as you. 2112 01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:31,960 Speaker 3: Know when we were not in the, LEAGUE i, say, 2113 01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:34,160 Speaker 3: man them guys make too much money missing free. Throws 2114 01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:36,519 Speaker 3: but what happens is is you get knocked on your. 2115 01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:41,400 Speaker 3: Ass you're pissed, off somebody just fouled. You you're down to, 2116 01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:45,320 Speaker 3: uh you ain't getting the. Ball coach just put you 2117 01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:46,920 Speaker 3: in the. Game you ain't touch the, ball and you 2118 01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:49,679 Speaker 3: get found like all those emotions going into a free 2119 01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:52,800 Speaker 3: throw in your. MIND a, Right so now you have 2120 01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:54,720 Speaker 3: to go through this routine and shoot free. Throws you 2121 01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:58,120 Speaker 3: got to calm yourself down and then they, Stop, yeah 2122 01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:01,760 Speaker 3: it's not going to. Shoot and what happens is people's, 2123 01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:05,519 Speaker 3: uh heart rhythm gets the best of them because they're 2124 01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:08,559 Speaker 3: they're they're allowing whatever's going on in their mind to 2125 01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:11,040 Speaker 3: affect their. Heart now it's, like you miss free throws 2126 01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:14,599 Speaker 3: because you didn't calm that heart. Down and so what 2127 01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:16,519 Speaker 3: do you? Do how do you change? That is you 2128 01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:19,120 Speaker 3: you have to shoot emotional free throws when you're in. 2129 01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:22,760 Speaker 3: Practice so every Time i'm, running you, know every time 2130 01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:25,720 Speaker 3: after practice is the free throw. Game it's something that 2131 01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:29,760 Speaker 3: makes me unnerved or, unrattled and THEN i go shoot 2132 01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:32,720 Speaker 3: free throws because that's the only way to make it 2133 01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:35,680 Speaker 3: similar to the game situation. 2134 01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:38,800 Speaker 1: THAT i, Say like when you hit the championship shot With, 2135 01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:42,799 Speaker 1: MIAMI i couldn't understand how you could backpedal that, quick 2136 01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:46,160 Speaker 1: catch the, ball get your lift and everything and shoot 2137 01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:46,920 Speaker 1: it like. 2138 01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:50,040 Speaker 4: That i'm talking about like it's just just like. 2139 01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:52,200 Speaker 1: That AND i was, like how did he get that? 2140 01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:53,880 Speaker 1: Off how do was that a? Three how did he 2141 01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:55,080 Speaker 1: do he not step on the? 2142 01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:56,080 Speaker 2: Line first of? 2143 01:42:56,120 --> 01:43:00,200 Speaker 4: All anything but all that hard, work you. 2144 01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:02,320 Speaker 5: Know What i'm, Saying that's what you can't understand that 2145 01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:04,920 Speaker 5: because you're not a shooter like Us Black. 2146 01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:08,360 Speaker 2: Like that's. Why that's the first reason why you can't understand. 2147 01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:08,880 Speaker 2: That but the. 2148 01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:12,559 Speaker 5: Second reason is all working everything he said about his. 2149 01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:15,799 Speaker 5: Routine the first reason was, LIKE i, know he seemed 2150 01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:17,800 Speaker 5: like he was talking to foreign. Language he talking about 2151 01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:20,240 Speaker 5: all this shooting and releasing and legs and. Everything you, 2152 01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:23,280 Speaker 5: know he just dunk on people in blacks. Shots this ain't, 2153 01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:25,640 Speaker 5: way you know What i'm, Saying this is how you 2154 01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:26,960 Speaker 5: do me when it's time talking about. 2155 01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:29,320 Speaker 2: Defensive he came from. There you know What i'm. Saying 2156 01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:31,600 Speaker 2: we won three point, competitions me and. You we be 2157 01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:34,040 Speaker 2: won this between two of. 2158 01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:34,559 Speaker 4: Us know. 2159 01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:38,320 Speaker 2: The minds on our side of me and on This, 2160 01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:39,400 Speaker 2: well let's. 2161 01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:41,599 Speaker 1: Talk about my Favorite Ray allen the dunk And Ray 2162 01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:42,200 Speaker 1: allen then. 2163 01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:43,960 Speaker 4: Reality they used to be. 2164 01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:46,240 Speaker 1: Dunking on them folks left and, right hanging on the. 2165 01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:51,040 Speaker 5: Rail i'm about. Yo he did that In miami when 2166 01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:53,240 Speaker 5: he was the older. Rest so which one are you talking? About? 2167 01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:55,439 Speaker 4: About you know them years What i'm talking. 2168 01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:57,360 Speaker 1: About it was Ship, City i'm talking about. 2169 01:43:57,400 --> 01:44:00,320 Speaker 5: Everybody, yeah all lights when he was In new he 2170 01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:04,400 Speaker 5: was swinging around and with his. Legs, so which one 2171 01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:07,160 Speaker 5: is your favorite drunk call that you have had in your? 2172 01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:09,519 Speaker 1: Career because you got a lot of, Them you got 2173 01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:10,120 Speaker 1: a lot of good. 2174 01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:12,559 Speaker 2: Ones, yeah BECAUSE i snuck a lot of. Dudes you. 2175 01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,479 Speaker 3: KNOW i think one of my favorites was the one 2176 01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:21,799 Speaker 3: Against orlando is the playoffs and and Uh Daryl armstrong 2177 01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:24,479 Speaker 3: was guarding, me and you, know he got caught behind 2178 01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:27,320 Speaker 3: me AND i was all downhill from. There and the 2179 01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:30,400 Speaker 3: interesting thing is is we were down too in the. 2180 01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:33,360 Speaker 3: Playoffs this WAS i think it Was game three In 2181 01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:38,320 Speaker 3: orlando and T mac fouled me and refs to the call, 2182 01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:39,960 Speaker 3: foul and THEN i would have made the free. Throw 2183 01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,360 Speaker 3: in the game, OVER i think we lost and went the. 2184 01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:44,720 Speaker 3: Overtime we, lost and we ended up winning the next. 2185 01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:48,320 Speaker 3: Game but you know those, games you know when you 2186 01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:52,800 Speaker 3: think about time and, score time of, year you, know 2187 01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:56,519 Speaker 3: whether regular season the, Playoffs like that's when it seems 2188 01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:58,519 Speaker 3: like it matters more because he got you see the 2189 01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:03,040 Speaker 3: real you, should real dude show, up the real dudes show, 2190 01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:05,200 Speaker 3: Up like it ain't none of this just shooting. 2191 01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:07,759 Speaker 2: Balls and you, know, No i'm talking about a guy. 2192 01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:10,400 Speaker 3: That knows how to get a, bucket like because the 2193 01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:13,120 Speaker 3: three point ball is, great and you, know the game 2194 01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:15,720 Speaker 3: is different, today BUT i still want to SEE i 2195 01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:19,479 Speaker 3: want to see these dudes that were like craftsmen at the, 2196 01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,840 Speaker 3: game like come off and pick and roll and take a, 2197 01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:23,559 Speaker 3: shot and every time you couldn't stop. 2198 01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:23,960 Speaker 4: Them and you. 2199 01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:29,120 Speaker 2: Curl rain's Game like now we ain't seeing no. 2200 01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:34,439 Speaker 3: Curling we don't see you, know mid rain shot, punk 2201 01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:35,840 Speaker 3: fake and get to the middle and. 2202 01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:38,320 Speaker 2: We don't see none of. That. 2203 01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:40,080 Speaker 3: Now i'm, like this is the part of the game 2204 01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:43,400 Speaker 3: THAT i, LIKE i missed because WHEN i first got to, 2205 01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:47,200 Speaker 3: league like it was it was a chore to figure 2206 01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:51,040 Speaker 3: out what each person could do from a skill, set you, 2207 01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:55,800 Speaker 3: know and nowadays it just doesn't exist. Anymore so When 2208 01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:58,800 Speaker 3: i'm looking back at my, Career i'm thinking, about, LIKE 2209 01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:01,200 Speaker 3: i love the game and its, entirety to be able 2210 01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:03,000 Speaker 3: to come down the lane and dunk on, somebody to 2211 01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:05,840 Speaker 3: shoot a, three to shoot the, range to shoot a 2212 01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:08,760 Speaker 3: left hand lay, up going eeath the, basket, like there's 2213 01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:10,880 Speaker 3: so much more to the. Game AND i think even 2214 01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:15,400 Speaker 3: the coaches are also at fault because they preach threes 2215 01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:18,360 Speaker 3: of more than, twos WHICH i get, it BUT i 2216 01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:21,639 Speaker 3: hate to see hump faking they step sideways. 2217 01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:22,439 Speaker 2: Or step backward the. 2218 01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:25,120 Speaker 3: Three i'm, like, man just get there and get the easy, 2219 01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:27,800 Speaker 3: one because the shooting percentages are terrible these days with 2220 01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:28,160 Speaker 3: the three. 2221 01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:29,479 Speaker 4: Pointers, yeah they getting them. 2222 01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:33,000 Speaker 5: UP i think that's Why i've always is still. Doing 2223 01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:37,599 Speaker 5: i'm a big fan of Like Mellow DeMar duroz and 2224 01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:41,120 Speaker 5: even LIKE. Kd clay because like as much as like 2225 01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:43,639 Speaker 5: you could, SAY kd And clay shoot, threes but they 2226 01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:46,640 Speaker 5: they get to their sweet spots and the rest of 2227 01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:49,920 Speaker 5: Them Tomar jamarrow and Then kawhi To, kawhi they be 2228 01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:51,400 Speaker 5: trying to talk about, like, man. 2229 01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:52,839 Speaker 2: Please he live in the gravy. 2230 01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:57,920 Speaker 3: Space that's why that's Why toronto, won Exactly. Toronto you 2231 01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:01,000 Speaker 3: know every other team you know that year was you, 2232 01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:06,040 Speaker 3: Know houston was doing The Golden. State milwaukee they lived 2233 01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:09,599 Speaker 3: and died by the three and them dudes were pumped 2234 01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:11,240 Speaker 3: faking getting into the paint taking that. 2235 01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:14,200 Speaker 2: Too, yeah was scoring in the. 2236 01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:18,200 Speaker 3: Painting Van vleiet was shooting, threes but he was getting 2237 01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:18,400 Speaker 3: to the. 2238 01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:18,920 Speaker 2: Hole he was. 2239 01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:19,640 Speaker 4: Attacking he was. 2240 01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:23,439 Speaker 3: Creating, yeah what's the other, KID i can't remember his, Name, 2241 01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:30,799 Speaker 3: no Not, Kyle kyle Struggled powell, normal he was shooting, 2242 01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:32,880 Speaker 3: threes but he was still into that. 2243 01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:34,439 Speaker 4: Bucket get into that bucket. 2244 01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:38,120 Speaker 3: Too When kyle, struggled he struggled because he was relying 2245 01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:40,560 Speaker 3: on a three. Pointer you, know he wasn't getting to 2246 01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:44,080 Speaker 3: a mid rains, game which was giving. Him, yeah build 2247 01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:47,720 Speaker 3: your rhythm, First like that's the biggest thing about, offenses you. 2248 01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:49,599 Speaker 2: KNOW i know you could shoot a three. 2249 01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:51,280 Speaker 3: Early like run, off pick and roll and see how 2250 01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:53,519 Speaker 3: they're gonna guard, it and then throw a pocket pass 2251 01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:57,559 Speaker 3: or swing it to the the weak side. Guard that's 2252 01:47:57,640 --> 01:47:59,559 Speaker 3: rolling and see if you can get that defense shift 2253 01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:01,120 Speaker 3: and you attack and from there get easy lay, up 2254 01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:03,360 Speaker 3: maybe a, foul go to the freak, line like when 2255 01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:05,320 Speaker 3: you can get your offense started like, that it takes 2256 01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:06,759 Speaker 3: so much pressure off the individual. 2257 01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:11,559 Speaker 1: Players, uh let's talk about this mad, Scientist Danny james 2258 01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:15,000 Speaker 1: that created this big. Three and not only did they 2259 01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:18,200 Speaker 1: created this big, three y'all got tossed in the shuffle 2260 01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:20,560 Speaker 1: of The lakers and The celtics. 2261 01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:23,120 Speaker 4: History how is that to be a part of? That 2262 01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:23,680 Speaker 4: go through that? 2263 01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:27,439 Speaker 1: SEASON i heard y'all training camp was crazy that. Year 2264 01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:30,840 Speaker 1: once y'all got, there y'all had to go. Overseas just 2265 01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:33,880 Speaker 1: going through that whole year and meeting The lakers With 2266 01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:36,200 Speaker 1: Kobe bryant at the end of the, year and you, 2267 01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:38,320 Speaker 1: know winning that, championship just explaining to us that whole 2268 01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:39,799 Speaker 1: year in that, process well. 2269 01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:42,240 Speaker 2: Being did you hear about the trade going from sea 2270 01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:42,640 Speaker 2: out of The. 2271 01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:45,840 Speaker 3: Boston, WELL i was excited because we had got the 2272 01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:48,000 Speaker 3: number two. Pick that was a year The celtics should 2273 01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:50,240 Speaker 3: have got it because they had the worst. Record sonics 2274 01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:52,960 Speaker 3: ended up getting the number two, pick Which porkland was 2275 01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:55,200 Speaker 3: going number. One where they're gonna Pick Greg oden and 2276 01:48:55,200 --> 01:49:00,760 Speaker 3: THEN kd number. Two cool Me richard AND kd like 2277 01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:01,320 Speaker 3: we're on our. 2278 01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:02,640 Speaker 2: Way that was the. 2279 01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:05,840 Speaker 3: Lottery so then the, draft they comes up sitting in 2280 01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:08,280 Speaker 3: the room and then first pick goes and all of a, 2281 01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:12,320 Speaker 3: SUDDEN i see potential. Trade they Picked Kevin durant and 2282 01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:14,960 Speaker 3: then all of a, SUDDEN i see potential trade and 2283 01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:19,320 Speaker 3: Said seattle gets and then it had like seven players 2284 01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:24,800 Speaker 3: Like Delonte west while Deserbiak Alan ray like two other. 2285 01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,080 Speaker 3: PLAYERS i REMEMBER i was, like, Oh i'm so. Gone, 2286 01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:29,439 Speaker 3: yeah When boston gives up that, MUCH. 2287 01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:30,400 Speaker 2: I was, Like i'm. Out i'm. 2288 01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:33,760 Speaker 3: Gone and SO i had mixed emotion BECAUSE i was, like, 2289 01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:37,120 Speaker 3: damn you Bring kadie. In we're about to be doing 2290 01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:39,640 Speaker 3: some special and you, know at the time is Just 2291 01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:43,439 Speaker 3: paul there and then THEN i. Come but at the same, 2292 01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:45,120 Speaker 3: TIME i was excited BECAUSE i was going back to 2293 01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:49,040 Speaker 3: The East, coast you, Know so Now i'm getting. Excited, 2294 01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:51,439 Speaker 3: obviously we had to fill our house and. Move people 2295 01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:53,479 Speaker 3: don't understand that part of, It like you got to 2296 01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:56,599 Speaker 3: you haul all this and then move across the country 2297 01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:57,799 Speaker 3: and find the home. 2298 01:49:57,640 --> 01:49:57,960 Speaker 2: And all this. 2299 01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:01,520 Speaker 5: Stuff if your kids got good, friends it don't matter. 2300 01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:05,320 Speaker 3: So before so that, summer you, KNOW i was talking 2301 01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:07,000 Speaker 3: To danny and the thing THAT i appreciated the most 2302 01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:10,240 Speaker 3: about him was the man was asking me about different 2303 01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:14,080 Speaker 3: players around the, league something GM's hadn't done in making. 2304 01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:16,160 Speaker 2: Moves like they'll talk about, players but we want he 2305 01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:16,960 Speaker 2: wants to make another. 2306 01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:20,280 Speaker 3: Move and then he tells me that he potentially had 2307 01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:22,200 Speaker 3: a deal on the table and he's thinking about Bringing 2308 01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:24,760 Speaker 3: Kevin gardennight in and WHAT i thought about, it AND 2309 01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:25,240 Speaker 3: i was like. 2310 01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:32,240 Speaker 2: That puts us. Immediately so it, happened. 2311 01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:35,120 Speaker 3: And then you, know we we you, know added a 2312 01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:35,679 Speaker 3: couple of different. 2313 01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:39,000 Speaker 2: Players James posey And brown came in the. 2314 01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:44,439 Speaker 3: Right the training camp we we we were. Playing we 2315 01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:47,839 Speaker 3: were going To rome In england that year In, london 2316 01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:52,720 Speaker 3: and it was probably the best thing for us as a. 2317 01:50:52,760 --> 01:50:56,320 Speaker 3: Team and mind, YOU i just had surgery at the 2318 01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:58,559 Speaker 3: end of the, season SO i wasn't supposed to go 2319 01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:01,880 Speaker 3: in the training. Camp BUT i had. SURGERY i come and. 2320 01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:03,920 Speaker 3: Trained there's no WAY i wasn't going to training. Camp 2321 01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:07,160 Speaker 3: and it was together for that Training, YEAH i, mean 2322 01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:08,160 Speaker 3: we were, competing going. 2323 01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:10,679 Speaker 2: Hard it was LIKE i remember seeing Y'ALL NBA. 2324 01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:14,200 Speaker 5: Tv You, RAY i Mean paul AND kg sitting Over 2325 01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:16,800 Speaker 5: i'm talking about oversee y'all sitting there sipping tea and 2326 01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:17,679 Speaker 5: ship y'all getting. 2327 01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:18,559 Speaker 2: INTERVIEWED i remember. 2328 01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:20,880 Speaker 3: That, yeah we used to sit see because we were 2329 01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,200 Speaker 3: on on The East coast, time so at night time 2330 01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:25,840 Speaker 3: we couldn't go to, sleep so we would be up 2331 01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:28,759 Speaker 3: sitting at the hotel. Talking we walked down the, street 2332 01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:32,719 Speaker 3: so it was the. Best LIKE i truly believe every, 2333 01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:35,679 Speaker 3: team you, know WHEN i first got into the, LEAGUE 2334 01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:37,720 Speaker 3: i thought of the paintment and the. Ask but when 2335 01:51:38,240 --> 01:51:42,040 Speaker 3: As i've gotten, older every team should go somewhere for 2336 01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:45,160 Speaker 3: training camp because what happens you you go, Home you 2337 01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:48,600 Speaker 3: around your, family you don't. Bond and the more you 2338 01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:51,800 Speaker 3: around each, other the more you eat, together the more 2339 01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:55,280 Speaker 3: you you know Might, yeah like training camp shouldn't be 2340 01:51:55,360 --> 01:52:01,519 Speaker 3: about running suicides ands and riding stationary bike it's. Now 2341 01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:05,160 Speaker 3: it should be about, meshing like getting together and being 2342 01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:08,800 Speaker 3: around guys and you, know talking philosophy of the game and, 2343 01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:11,840 Speaker 3: yeah you're gonna you're gonna do some. Conditioning but if 2344 01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:14,519 Speaker 3: you're a coach that is only thinking about playing Till. 2345 01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:17,559 Speaker 2: April then you, know be my. Guest run these guys 2346 01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:17,760 Speaker 2: to the. 2347 01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:20,559 Speaker 3: Ragety but if you plan on playing To, june then 2348 01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:22,400 Speaker 3: it's not about getting the shape right. 2349 01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:24,840 Speaker 2: Now what you're talking about is so. 2350 01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:29,200 Speaker 5: Undervalue that's why it's only very few teams really get 2351 01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:31,360 Speaker 5: what you're. Saying that's why you did is still In 2352 01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:34,920 Speaker 5: miami and he's doing what he's doing because they get it. 2353 01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:39,479 Speaker 5: Right i'm telling, you like teams do not understand what that. 2354 01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:41,960 Speaker 5: Brings you, know you WATCH tv and you watch some 2355 01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:44,200 Speaker 5: of these. Shows you hear, like you don't need to 2356 01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:47,320 Speaker 5: be together to win a. Championship LIKE i hear, you 2357 01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:51,280 Speaker 5: it's not impossible to win when everybody ain't, buddy. Buddy 2358 01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:53,840 Speaker 5: but you go look back at the teams that really 2359 01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:56,439 Speaker 5: wont and them people didn't. Matter they rocked with each, other, 2360 01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:58,840 Speaker 5: bro they put that time. In i'm not saying that 2361 01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:01,400 Speaker 5: you can't show me a team to, where, oh this 2362 01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:03,880 Speaker 5: person didn't like that, person they still want LIKE i get. It, 2363 01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:06,599 Speaker 5: yeah that happens every once in a. While but the 2364 01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:10,320 Speaker 5: majority of teams that win Championships i'm talking about forget 2365 01:53:10,360 --> 01:53:14,200 Speaker 5: basketball sports across the. Board them boys got a, Bond 2366 01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:17,360 Speaker 5: they built a bond. Somewhere it came from. Somewhere they 2367 01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:20,040 Speaker 5: didn't just like, like, NAH i get. It sometimes you 2368 01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:23,080 Speaker 5: got talent of assholes, commession it could, work but not 2369 01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:25,559 Speaker 5: the majority of the. Time the majority of the time 2370 01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:27,360 Speaker 5: that like you, said that shit is built in training. 2371 01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:30,040 Speaker 5: Camp that shit is built in times that people don't 2372 01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:32,640 Speaker 5: see we coming together to. Eat we come together at 2373 01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:34,120 Speaker 5: the end of the night to talk when we got a. 2374 01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:35,800 Speaker 5: Price all, right, Man i'm gonna get a, Besides i'm 2375 01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:37,680 Speaker 5: gonna do, this and then we're gonna play. Cards at this, 2376 01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:40,960 Speaker 5: time we're gonna. Eat at this, time it's Us and 2377 01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:43,479 Speaker 5: that's when you really get to find out what this person, 2378 01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:45,680 Speaker 5: about what your teammate, about and how they rock and 2379 01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:49,160 Speaker 5: y'all make that bond and that people underestimate undervalue. That, 2380 01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:50,640 Speaker 5: man that's a huge part of. 2381 01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:53,720 Speaker 3: It and what, happens what happens from that is you 2382 01:53:53,800 --> 01:54:01,800 Speaker 3: build a, protocol a safety protocol so when or if 2383 01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:06,800 Speaker 3: they possibly go, sideways you know how to get that. 2384 01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:08,800 Speaker 3: Back because if you play cards. 2385 01:54:08,479 --> 01:54:10,519 Speaker 2: Regularly when you, lose, yo y'all meet in the. Room 2386 01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:13,599 Speaker 2: let's play some. Cards on the, plane you play. Cards 2387 01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:16,160 Speaker 2: so when you, lose you play cards and you sit 2388 01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:17,160 Speaker 2: there and you hash it. 2389 01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:19,519 Speaker 3: Out like the teams that don't talk and they splinter. 2390 01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:21,920 Speaker 3: Away those are the ones that they go home and they. 2391 01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:23,960 Speaker 5: Go because they go home and they talk them to 2392 01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:26,840 Speaker 5: their best friends and they. Cousins and you already know 2393 01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:30,080 Speaker 5: we all everybody's sitting. Here this is not A this 2394 01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:32,840 Speaker 5: is not me trying to talk about people's family and. 2395 01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:36,360 Speaker 5: Friends it's a it's a it's just how it is 2396 01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:39,600 Speaker 5: they with. Us, YEAH i didn't have to tell some 2397 01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:41,280 Speaker 5: of my closest, friends closest. 2398 01:54:41,280 --> 01:54:42,240 Speaker 2: Family, hey be. 2399 01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:44,960 Speaker 5: Cool you don't know what you're talking about because you're 2400 01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,600 Speaker 5: not in this locker. Room AND i get. It you 2401 01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,920 Speaker 5: love and you support and you went. Me you want 2402 01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:54,240 Speaker 5: me to. Win what you're wrong right? Now you know 2403 01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:56,880 Speaker 5: you're talking about the coach the wrong. Way you talking 2404 01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:59,640 Speaker 5: about my teammates the wrong. Way y'all don't know what's going. 2405 01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:02,320 Speaker 5: On they just speaking out a really love for you 2406 01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:04,120 Speaker 5: and trying to be on your side and console. 2407 01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:05,800 Speaker 2: You and that's not always the right. 2408 01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:08,920 Speaker 5: Thing but that's WHAT i appreciated about my shit and 2409 01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:10,760 Speaker 5: our ship the way we. Came AND i think that's 2410 01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:14,200 Speaker 5: why when you look at it like, me D Miles Corey, 2411 01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:16,800 Speaker 5: keon we as solid as it come to this day 2412 01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:19,320 Speaker 5: because of those like brothers because we all experienced the 2413 01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:22,640 Speaker 5: same thing in real time where people experience that on their, 2414 01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:24,560 Speaker 5: own and it's it's a difference, when like you, say 2415 01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:27,040 Speaker 5: when you that's how teams get tight and friendships get 2416 01:55:27,160 --> 01:55:28,720 Speaker 5: bonded because of that. 2417 01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:33,240 Speaker 1: Stuff when y'all falling a big, three like, everybody it was, 2418 01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:37,040 Speaker 1: like y'all already run. Champions they kind of figured like 2419 01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:40,120 Speaker 1: y'all was gonna go and you know with, that, yeah 2420 01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:42,000 Speaker 1: the falling a big, three but you still gotta win, 2421 01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:44,400 Speaker 1: it you know What i'm. Saying so like teams was 2422 01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:46,600 Speaker 1: coming at y'all head and, then LIKE i, said you 2423 01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:48,400 Speaker 1: get to the end and you get to The. Lakers 2424 01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:50,640 Speaker 1: just go through that process of that season or that 2425 01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:54,560 Speaker 1: playoffs of playing the teams and y'all jeling and they're 2426 01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:57,080 Speaker 1: getting to click it in the playoffs and y'all really 2427 01:55:57,160 --> 01:55:57,440 Speaker 1: go on the. 2428 01:55:57,560 --> 01:56:01,440 Speaker 3: Run the most important thing about that team was we 2429 01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:06,640 Speaker 3: had had success, individually but nothing great team. Wise the 2430 01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:10,880 Speaker 3: only person that had been that won Was posed In. 2431 01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:11,520 Speaker 2: Miami. 2432 01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:16,600 Speaker 3: Miami, yeah so nobody really knew what it, took and 2433 01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:20,160 Speaker 3: so we were willing to sacrifice all year, long less, 2434 01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:21,360 Speaker 3: minutes less. 2435 01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:21,960 Speaker 2: Shots but we. 2436 01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:23,640 Speaker 4: Won y'all buy it To doc. 2437 01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:27,000 Speaker 3: One And doc wasn't trying To he wasn't trying to 2438 01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:29,000 Speaker 3: beat it out of us, Either like you guys gotta 2439 01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:31,080 Speaker 3: work out and be in the best of. 2440 01:56:31,120 --> 01:56:33,800 Speaker 2: Shape long we we did so. 2441 01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:36,320 Speaker 3: Much we had such individual, pride guys with the gym 2442 01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:38,920 Speaker 3: work it, out you, Know and that was all the, 2443 01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:41,480 Speaker 3: Difference like he didn't have to you, know you feel 2444 01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:43,720 Speaker 3: like an independent, contractor like you just you, Know there's 2445 01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:46,440 Speaker 3: some days we'd have a game On monday on the, 2446 01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:51,200 Speaker 3: road and then we wouldn't have practice On, tuesday and 2447 01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:53,640 Speaker 3: then he would have a shoot around On wednesday before the. 2448 01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:55,240 Speaker 3: Game SO i had a whole day and a half 2449 01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:57,800 Speaker 3: WHERE i didn't have to see, nobody SO i. Could you, 2450 01:56:57,800 --> 01:56:59,440 Speaker 3: Know i'd come to the gym on my, own do 2451 01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:02,960 Speaker 3: WHATEVER i need to. Do BUT i was able to to. 2452 01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:06,800 Speaker 3: Rest like no Coach i've ever played with had that much. 2453 01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:09,440 Speaker 4: COMFORT i never had a training camp AS i. 2454 01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:11,520 Speaker 1: Had WHEN i came out there With, DOCTOR i was, like, 2455 01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:14,080 Speaker 1: man we ain't coming, back like we didn''t do nothing, 2456 01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:17,360 Speaker 1: Today like that was just A i never had, That 2457 01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:19,680 Speaker 1: AND i was, like, man that's the type of COACH i, 2458 01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:20,960 Speaker 1: Need especially WHEN i was on these. 2459 01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:22,040 Speaker 2: Knees you hear. 2460 01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:24,880 Speaker 1: THESE i was, like, man that's the type of coach 2461 01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:27,880 Speaker 1: that you need instead of being on the team that's 2462 01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:30,000 Speaker 1: young and he's trying to run you all the way 2463 01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:30,760 Speaker 1: through the. 2464 01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:33,840 Speaker 3: Dirt, Yeah LIKE i said, that that that coach that's 2465 01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:36,120 Speaker 3: trying to do that as An april. Coach you, know 2466 01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:38,920 Speaker 3: coaches that played in The. June i'm not trying to 2467 01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:42,160 Speaker 3: tire you out or. TU i don't need you to 2468 01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:44,080 Speaker 3: play your best basketball, Now like we just need to 2469 01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:44,960 Speaker 3: peak over of course of the. 2470 01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:46,560 Speaker 2: Team tell me. 2471 01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:50,360 Speaker 5: THIS i want to know what it was like when 2472 01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:53,280 Speaker 5: you were In boston and you guys achieved that. 2473 01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:55,560 Speaker 2: Championship what was that? 2474 01:57:55,720 --> 01:57:59,000 Speaker 5: Feeling because y'all did it in the first year coming 2475 01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:01,720 Speaker 5: together and it was expected to be you, know y'all 2476 01:58:01,720 --> 01:58:03,400 Speaker 5: was gonna be this and y'all gonna be. That but, 2477 01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:07,040 Speaker 5: like how was that feeling to achieve that that goal 2478 01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:09,640 Speaker 5: of a. Championship you hadn't been a champion, before you 2479 01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:11,080 Speaker 5: had been in the league and achieved a lot of. 2480 01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:14,200 Speaker 5: Accomplishments how was that to come together in that first 2481 01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:16,440 Speaker 5: year and like you, say to go From seattle, thinking, 2482 01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:19,080 Speaker 5: man we about to get SEE. Kd we're gonna be all, 2483 01:58:19,160 --> 01:58:21,680 Speaker 5: Right we're gonna be better and then get thrown into 2484 01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:22,760 Speaker 5: that scenario and win a. 2485 01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:24,040 Speaker 2: Championship WELL i. 2486 01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:28,120 Speaker 3: Was, obviously you, Know Sam presty was A gm then 2487 01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:30,680 Speaker 3: and he traded me, away AND i, was you, know 2488 01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:33,000 Speaker 3: we had a conversation and he was trying to, build 2489 01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:34,800 Speaker 3: and then he traded me. Away SO i was like 2490 01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:38,360 Speaker 3: snaking the. Grass but THEN i ended up In boston 2491 01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:40,760 Speaker 3: and we win a. Championship So i'm, like you, KNOW 2492 01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:43,040 Speaker 3: i can't be pissed off at him because he put 2493 01:58:43,080 --> 01:58:46,240 Speaker 3: me in a great. Situation, yeah it's not something that 2494 01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:49,760 Speaker 3: you ever think. POSSIBLE i never worried about winning championship 2495 01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:51,720 Speaker 3: because you got to be fortunate to be on a 2496 01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:56,280 Speaker 3: team with players and with an organization that. Talk, yeah 2497 01:58:56,520 --> 01:59:00,320 Speaker 3: everybody bought in and even during the, year they were 2498 01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:03,200 Speaker 3: trying to get, Better like after we made the initial 2499 01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:06,880 Speaker 3: movement roster wise trade, deadline you're trying to get. Better 2500 01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:09,680 Speaker 3: and then as you, know people got way towards in the, 2501 01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:13,160 Speaker 3: season we ADDED. Pj brown And Sam, juasel which proved 2502 01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:17,120 Speaker 3: very beneficial for us win the. Championship so it was, 2503 01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:20,440 Speaker 3: like you don't, know like we went to the playoffs first, 2504 01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:21,600 Speaker 3: round seven Games. 2505 01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:24,840 Speaker 2: Atlanta we could not Beat atlanta In. 2506 01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:28,600 Speaker 3: Atlanta that joint turned into something that we had never seen, 2507 01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:31,240 Speaker 3: before and that means might be some of the best 2508 01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:32,880 Speaker 3: basketball that The hawks have played in that. 2509 01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:37,480 Speaker 4: Building oh They Josh. 2510 01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:41,600 Speaker 3: Mills but it was like a crescendo to the playoff 2511 01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:45,240 Speaker 3: for us because then we go To cleveland and we 2512 01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:50,280 Speaker 3: win in seven games there and it took us like 2513 01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:53,200 Speaker 3: all of it Because lebron was was doing this. Thing 2514 01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:56,280 Speaker 3: and then obviously we went in six and In, detroit 2515 01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:59,440 Speaker 3: and so by the time we get to The, lakers 2516 02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:04,040 Speaker 3: it almost seemed like the hard work was pasted us 2517 02:00:04,240 --> 02:00:06,720 Speaker 3: because we had dealt with so. Much the game on The, 2518 02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:08,920 Speaker 3: east in The Eastern conference was so much more, physical 2519 02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:11,520 Speaker 3: and they picked The lakers to. Win so we came, 2520 02:00:11,560 --> 02:00:15,160 Speaker 3: in we, played you, know tough, nose, hard gritty, basketball 2521 02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:17,280 Speaker 3: and it was it was. 2522 02:00:17,320 --> 02:00:20,320 Speaker 2: Serendipitous we were in a position where as. 2523 02:00:20,160 --> 02:00:22,560 Speaker 3: Long as we you, Know kobe didn't go off and 2524 02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:25,720 Speaker 3: do do too much, craziness like we, were we were, 2525 02:00:25,760 --> 02:00:26,280 Speaker 3: Primed we were. 2526 02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:29,480 Speaker 1: Ready how was it for you for, uh you, know 2527 02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:32,040 Speaker 1: to see the next generation you on the team with D, 2528 02:00:32,240 --> 02:00:35,440 Speaker 1: Way Lebron. Bosh you know What i'm, saying this is 2529 02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:39,440 Speaker 1: the next generation of. Players how was it to see 2530 02:00:39,440 --> 02:00:41,320 Speaker 1: them young, guys you know What i'm, saying them guys 2531 02:00:41,360 --> 02:00:43,920 Speaker 1: kind of in their prime trying to do something great 2532 02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:44,920 Speaker 1: and special over. 2533 02:00:44,960 --> 02:00:48,880 Speaker 3: There it was great because they truly respected my voice 2534 02:00:49,160 --> 02:00:51,320 Speaker 3: and they referred to me a lot in a lot 2535 02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:54,480 Speaker 3: of the, situations asking my, opinion and there was a 2536 02:00:54,640 --> 02:00:59,400 Speaker 3: there was a great appreciation for, myself For Juwan howard 2537 02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:03,480 Speaker 3: in that right there. Is it allows you to have 2538 02:01:03,520 --> 02:01:06,080 Speaker 3: a space where you know you're respected and you can 2539 02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:06,480 Speaker 3: come in and do. 2540 02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:09,480 Speaker 2: Your, job and, uh it was a great work. 2541 02:01:09,640 --> 02:01:13,120 Speaker 5: Environment tell me, THIS i don't like the mails brought 2542 02:01:13,120 --> 02:01:15,880 Speaker 5: it up, earlier but when you hit that fucking, SHOT 2543 02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:19,440 Speaker 5: i need to know in real time what that felt. 2544 02:01:19,520 --> 02:01:23,200 Speaker 5: Like Cause i'm because we, players we know how it, 2545 02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:24,680 Speaker 5: go AND i know what the FUCK i. 2546 02:01:24,760 --> 02:01:25,560 Speaker 2: Saw i'm sitting. 2547 02:01:25,600 --> 02:01:30,320 Speaker 5: Here they then roped off the, sidelines they, bringing. 2548 02:01:30,200 --> 02:01:34,760 Speaker 2: You, know they getting, ready like in real. 2549 02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:37,200 Speaker 5: Time reality just setting AND i see the time out 2550 02:01:37,280 --> 02:01:39,040 Speaker 5: they sold the way they should have. 2551 02:01:39,040 --> 02:01:41,400 Speaker 2: Been they show You lebron and show everybody they showing. 2552 02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:44,960 Speaker 5: Y'all it's, like y'all have the realization this is like 2553 02:01:45,560 --> 02:01:48,320 Speaker 5: this shit about to be over like it could be, 2554 02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:51,000 Speaker 5: Over like you could see that in everybody's face and 2555 02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:54,280 Speaker 5: ain't no, Bully this is no, bullshit no Put like 2556 02:01:55,040 --> 02:01:57,480 Speaker 5: everybody could see the feet and the you can see 2557 02:01:57,480 --> 02:02:00,640 Speaker 5: the feet for. Y'all you can see trying for the. 2558 02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:03,560 Speaker 5: Spurs you see them roping shit, off getting shit. Right you're, like, 2559 02:02:03,640 --> 02:02:07,840 Speaker 5: damn this is like for you to hit that shot 2560 02:02:08,040 --> 02:02:11,360 Speaker 5: and to flip the whole course of. History tell me 2561 02:02:11,680 --> 02:02:14,680 Speaker 5: what that was like in real time as it's, happening 2562 02:02:14,960 --> 02:02:17,320 Speaker 5: and like d mind, said you did, it like you, 2563 02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:20,000 Speaker 5: said you prepared for these moments and, everything and you 2564 02:02:20,040 --> 02:02:23,280 Speaker 5: got your feet. Together like aside from, THAT i, GET 2565 02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:26,160 Speaker 5: i don't listen to you explain how in the moment 2566 02:02:26,200 --> 02:02:30,640 Speaker 5: you got your feet and practiced me after that the, 2567 02:02:30,760 --> 02:02:33,280 Speaker 5: huddle like after you've made this shot and to re 2568 02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:36,640 Speaker 5: energize y'all got, it after y'all won that, game and 2569 02:02:36,680 --> 02:02:38,480 Speaker 5: to know that you did what you did and this 2570 02:02:38,680 --> 02:02:40,840 Speaker 5: couldn't have been won without, you what is that? 2571 02:02:40,920 --> 02:02:41,320 Speaker 2: Feeling? 2572 02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:46,040 Speaker 3: Like it was interesting because and we you, know when 2573 02:02:46,080 --> 02:02:47,880 Speaker 3: we saw the game something the way we turned the 2574 02:02:47,920 --> 02:02:51,320 Speaker 3: ball over late in the, Game San antonio missing free, 2575 02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:55,040 Speaker 3: throws you, Know lebron hits the. Three the first three 2576 02:02:56,400 --> 02:02:59,800 Speaker 3: during the, Game Mike miller hit a three with one shoe. 2577 02:02:59,840 --> 02:03:06,320 Speaker 3: On so when you think about the way teams win, 2578 02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:10,760 Speaker 3: championships there's one moment they get you to the next 2579 02:03:10,840 --> 02:03:14,000 Speaker 3: somebody does something that gets you over the, hunt you, 2580 02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:16,040 Speaker 3: know the play off the bench to start from, five. 2581 02:03:16,520 --> 02:03:17,120 Speaker 2: Whatever it may. 2582 02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:20,120 Speaker 3: Be and that's kind of how that. WENT i remember 2583 02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:23,520 Speaker 3: the next day we had we had a. Practice but 2584 02:03:23,560 --> 02:03:25,160 Speaker 3: what we're gonna just do is going through a walk 2585 02:03:25,240 --> 02:03:27,920 Speaker 3: through and the media is in, there and we're, just you, 2586 02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:30,240 Speaker 3: know gonna shoot around a little. Bit we sit there 2587 02:03:30,240 --> 02:03:32,720 Speaker 3: and play some shooting, games and then we walk off 2588 02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:33,680 Speaker 3: and we you, know watch. 2589 02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:37,000 Speaker 2: Film BUT i was getting treatment in the training. 2590 02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:39,200 Speaker 3: ROOM i had been there, early AND i walked into 2591 02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:41,880 Speaker 3: the locker room And Mike miller goes there he, is 2592 02:03:42,360 --> 02:03:49,760 Speaker 3: AND i was stunned because in my MIND i thought 2593 02:03:50,240 --> 02:03:53,160 Speaker 3: THAT i was. There we were there because we all. 2594 02:03:53,320 --> 02:03:57,280 Speaker 3: Contributed And mike, says, man, bro we would be in 2595 02:03:57,280 --> 02:03:59,360 Speaker 3: here packing our shit if it were for. You and 2596 02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:02,640 Speaker 3: yes that we see that first, hand but you all 2597 02:04:02,680 --> 02:04:07,360 Speaker 3: know every little thing transpires into that final, moment you, 2598 02:04:07,400 --> 02:04:11,480 Speaker 3: Know so miss free, throw a, turnover a block, shot 2599 02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:14,040 Speaker 3: all that gets you to that, moment and it's easy 2600 02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:17,120 Speaker 3: to point the or shine the light on that that 2601 02:04:17,200 --> 02:04:18,920 Speaker 3: moment that actually took you over the. 2602 02:04:19,000 --> 02:04:21,080 Speaker 2: Hump and that's kind of the. 2603 02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:23,200 Speaker 3: Way i've always been, like you, know everybody did their 2604 02:04:23,240 --> 02:04:25,520 Speaker 3: part to get us, here and obviously that was probably 2605 02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:28,720 Speaker 3: one of the most glaring moments of that game that 2606 02:04:28,800 --> 02:04:29,720 Speaker 3: got us to where we need to. 2607 02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:31,080 Speaker 2: GO i was GLAD i could be a part of. 2608 02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:33,360 Speaker 3: It IF i missed that, shot it wouldn't have been 2609 02:04:33,360 --> 02:04:35,760 Speaker 3: a big deal because everybody would have, said you. 2610 02:04:35,720 --> 02:04:40,280 Speaker 4: Know there's a. Wave, yeah even. 2611 02:04:40,120 --> 02:04:42,120 Speaker 3: Me, shooting, like there's no way you would have made that. 2612 02:04:42,160 --> 02:04:45,800 Speaker 3: Shot that just you were in a difficult. Situation nobody 2613 02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:48,760 Speaker 3: could make that. Shot but you, know when you show 2614 02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:51,360 Speaker 3: the possibilities when you don't give, up you, know that, 2615 02:04:51,560 --> 02:04:54,880 Speaker 3: was you, know showing the possibilities of how a team 2616 02:04:54,920 --> 02:04:56,960 Speaker 3: doesn't give up and continue to believe in. 2617 02:04:57,000 --> 02:04:59,960 Speaker 1: Themselves if you had five, players, well you had four 2618 02:05:00,080 --> 02:05:02,360 Speaker 1: players to play with out of all the teams that 2619 02:05:02,440 --> 02:05:02,840 Speaker 1: you play. 2620 02:05:02,960 --> 02:05:06,480 Speaker 4: With if you have to pick four players to. 2621 02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:08,760 Speaker 1: Hop in the rabbit hole with and win you a, 2622 02:05:08,840 --> 02:05:12,840 Speaker 1: game no matter what, team what are the four players you'll? 2623 02:05:12,920 --> 02:05:15,240 Speaker 4: Choose you got some heat because you can play with some. 2624 02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:25,880 Speaker 2: Boy i'm Taking i'm Taking Glenn, robinson big, yeah, Uh 2625 02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:29,000 Speaker 2: i'm Taking Terrell. 2626 02:05:29,120 --> 02:05:34,800 Speaker 4: Brandon people don't even know ABOUT, tv don't know About. 2627 02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:37,920 Speaker 2: I'm looking For i'm looking FOR tv right. There man 2628 02:05:38,080 --> 02:05:42,640 Speaker 2: used to get game and split the pick and roll nobody's. 2629 02:05:42,680 --> 02:05:44,360 Speaker 2: BUSINESS i mean. 2630 02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:48,800 Speaker 4: You got to pick. It the letter. 2631 02:05:51,120 --> 02:05:54,120 Speaker 2: A whole lot of a whole lot OF i MEAN 2632 02:05:54,160 --> 02:05:54,600 Speaker 2: i played With. 2633 02:05:54,640 --> 02:05:56,560 Speaker 3: Shack it be unfair to Put shack on, there but 2634 02:05:56,600 --> 02:06:04,840 Speaker 3: it's easy to say shack exact, dad. 2635 02:06:02,040 --> 02:06:04,200 Speaker 2: He just say. Shack i'm gonna say, shock And i'm 2636 02:06:04,200 --> 02:06:07,760 Speaker 2: gonna say kg. Up this is my favorite. QUESTION i 2637 02:06:07,800 --> 02:06:09,320 Speaker 2: got a picture right here on the wall with me 2638 02:06:09,400 --> 02:06:10,280 Speaker 2: with a big dumb. 2639 02:06:10,160 --> 02:06:13,160 Speaker 5: Ass chain with everything selling my uh you, know my 2640 02:06:13,200 --> 02:06:14,080 Speaker 5: Social security on. 2641 02:06:14,160 --> 02:06:16,120 Speaker 2: IT i need to know when you because you signed. 2642 02:06:16,200 --> 02:06:18,920 Speaker 5: Ship you signed the biggest dealing in Walkee bucks history 2643 02:06:18,920 --> 02:06:21,440 Speaker 5: at the time when you got that. BAG i know 2644 02:06:21,480 --> 02:06:23,320 Speaker 5: you took care of. Mama you still take care Of. 2645 02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:26,040 Speaker 5: MAMA i know THAT i won't know What Ray ray 2646 02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:29,960 Speaker 5: did for, himself like On South, Central Ray ray doing. 2647 02:06:29,880 --> 02:06:36,160 Speaker 2: Real new new, Car Right ray, Right, ray, Right ray 2648 02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:36,720 Speaker 2: doing real. 2649 02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:39,920 Speaker 5: Good like what Did ray dude when he got that 2650 02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:42,080 Speaker 5: big old. Bag what did? YOU i don't want to 2651 02:06:42,120 --> 02:06:43,080 Speaker 5: hear about you take care of. 2652 02:06:43,120 --> 02:06:43,760 Speaker 2: Mom i'm talking. 2653 02:06:43,600 --> 02:06:46,200 Speaker 4: About what flashy ship yourself. 2654 02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:47,840 Speaker 2: Said when you look, back, like, man that was kind of, 2655 02:06:47,880 --> 02:06:51,200 Speaker 2: crazy BUT i love that. SHIP i did well for 2656 02:06:51,320 --> 02:06:52,000 Speaker 2: me And. 2657 02:06:53,080 --> 02:06:58,400 Speaker 3: Milwaukee help because you ain't doing nothing super crazy because You. Knowwaukee, 2658 02:06:59,360 --> 02:07:02,440 Speaker 3: yeah like you. Can't you can't be floss In milwaukee 2659 02:07:02,440 --> 02:07:04,720 Speaker 3: because you're gonna have a car sitting on. 2660 02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:07,080 Speaker 2: Bricks you, know too much snow out. 2661 02:07:07,080 --> 02:07:07,280 Speaker 4: There. 2662 02:07:07,880 --> 02:07:08,840 Speaker 2: Yeah so the. 2663 02:07:08,800 --> 02:07:10,520 Speaker 3: Thing THAT i did do IS i bought a three 2664 02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:13,640 Speaker 3: sixty spider AND i had a garage And corey. 2665 02:07:13,560 --> 02:07:20,440 Speaker 2: Mcginny, yeah, ak let me just let you know about that. 2666 02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:23,680 Speaker 5: SPIDER i had A cel sixty five and tell that 2667 02:07:23,800 --> 02:07:26,120 Speaker 5: thing got the frame until we get a little further 2668 02:07:26,160 --> 02:07:28,080 Speaker 5: than you get in your top. Gear but when we 2669 02:07:28,120 --> 02:07:31,880 Speaker 5: first start, Off i'm kicking your ass after frame, Ass corey, 2670 02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:34,520 Speaker 5: mcgetty we was On Lincoln boulevard coming from. 2671 02:07:34,520 --> 02:07:36,320 Speaker 2: There WHAT i told his ass up. 2672 02:07:36,280 --> 02:07:38,840 Speaker 4: One, day go, ahead go. 2673 02:07:38,880 --> 02:07:41,520 Speaker 3: Ahead that's why you can't go wrong with some of these. 2674 02:07:41,600 --> 02:07:47,480 Speaker 3: Cars like my wife has A BMW i three and 2675 02:07:47,640 --> 02:07:48,360 Speaker 3: they say that. 2676 02:07:48,280 --> 02:07:51,840 Speaker 2: THING m three TO m three. Joint OH i. Three 2677 02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:54,680 Speaker 2: oh THE i? Three, Right, yeah that's it fast stay 2678 02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:55,200 Speaker 2: because it's. 2679 02:07:55,240 --> 02:07:57,600 Speaker 3: Electric they say that thing is one of the fastest 2680 02:07:57,600 --> 02:08:00,160 Speaker 3: cars that they have from zero to sixty and it's Elect. 2681 02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:04,080 Speaker 1: How was it when you heard that you was gonna 2682 02:08:04,080 --> 02:08:06,720 Speaker 1: be inducted into The hall Of? Fame how was that 2683 02:08:06,800 --> 02:08:07,360 Speaker 1: for you and your? 2684 02:08:07,400 --> 02:08:11,000 Speaker 3: Family you, know, yeah it Was The hall Of fame was, 2685 02:08:11,080 --> 02:08:14,920 Speaker 3: super super, emotional like just thinking about your whole. Life 2686 02:08:17,680 --> 02:08:20,640 Speaker 3: you go To All Star, game you have, fun you 2687 02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:23,280 Speaker 3: just join. Yourself but The hall Of fame was like 2688 02:08:23,800 --> 02:08:25,040 Speaker 3: it was, Like, okay it's over. 2689 02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:27,520 Speaker 2: WITH i get to sit back and now cry and 2690 02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:29,240 Speaker 2: celebrate those that helped me get. 2691 02:08:29,280 --> 02:08:32,360 Speaker 3: Here that's what it is is the culmination of your 2692 02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:35,120 Speaker 3: your life and the people in it that pushed the, 2693 02:08:35,240 --> 02:08:38,120 Speaker 3: envelope that fought for you to have tennis shoes on 2694 02:08:38,120 --> 02:08:41,040 Speaker 3: your feet, on have clothes on your, back a camp 2695 02:08:41,080 --> 02:08:43,600 Speaker 3: to go. To so that's WHAT i wanted to be, 2696 02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:45,400 Speaker 3: about was the people that got. 2697 02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:46,760 Speaker 4: Me, coaches teammates and. 2698 02:08:46,800 --> 02:08:50,120 Speaker 3: Everything, yeah and SO i wanted to make sure THAT 2699 02:08:50,160 --> 02:08:52,920 Speaker 3: i talked about those people because those people and you, 2700 02:08:52,960 --> 02:08:56,120 Speaker 3: know were the ones that carried. Me and you, KNOW i, 2701 02:08:56,160 --> 02:08:58,000 Speaker 3: thought you, know When i'm announced on The hall Of. 2702 02:08:58,080 --> 02:09:00,320 Speaker 3: FAME i get to put those people in the. 2703 02:09:00,360 --> 02:09:03,440 Speaker 1: Forefront when you came, over they said To, boston they, 2704 02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:05,600 Speaker 1: said it's Three hall Of. Famers case you just winning 2705 02:09:05,600 --> 02:09:07,560 Speaker 1: The hall Of fame the other day And paul is 2706 02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:10,880 Speaker 1: had selected to be next. Year to see that complete of, 2707 02:09:10,960 --> 02:09:13,320 Speaker 1: y'all Three hall of, famers to win that, championship to 2708 02:09:13,320 --> 02:09:16,040 Speaker 1: See paul getting in it next, year how's that for? 2709 02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:19,000 Speaker 1: You to see see your guys getting The hall Of 2710 02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:21,600 Speaker 1: fame and be a part of that That hall Of fame. 2711 02:09:21,640 --> 02:09:24,800 Speaker 3: Status i'm just thankful that we won in a wait 2712 02:09:26,000 --> 02:09:28,200 Speaker 3: because you don't want to see that three of us 2713 02:09:28,240 --> 02:09:29,880 Speaker 3: Were hall Of, famers like Y'all hall of. 2714 02:09:29,880 --> 02:09:32,480 Speaker 4: Famers, yeah, yeah. 2715 02:09:32,560 --> 02:09:35,840 Speaker 3: Yeah so to see those those, guys you, know walk 2716 02:09:35,920 --> 02:09:38,560 Speaker 3: in because we know that that was where they were. 2717 02:09:38,600 --> 02:09:42,440 Speaker 3: Headed you, know you couldn't ask for anything better because 2718 02:09:42,440 --> 02:09:44,840 Speaker 3: they've been able to be good for a long period of. 2719 02:09:44,880 --> 02:09:50,160 Speaker 2: Time it's a, glory all, right. Man that's a. Wrap, 2720 02:09:50,240 --> 02:09:50,840 Speaker 2: man this is. 2721 02:09:50,960 --> 02:09:55,000 Speaker 5: Dope we Had, Jesus we Had Jesus showsworth in the. 2722 02:09:55,040 --> 02:09:58,320 Speaker 2: Building, man he got. Game Ray allen missed the three. 2723 02:09:58,160 --> 02:10:03,040 Speaker 5: Point, Shot Sugar ray h old, well big time baller. 2724 02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:05,680 Speaker 5: Man we appreciate, you, right appreciate you putting up on the. 2725 02:10:05,720 --> 02:10:08,440 Speaker 3: HOMIES i feel LIKE i went to school today with, 2726 02:10:08,520 --> 02:10:11,000 Speaker 3: Y'all SO i appreciate y'all for. 2727 02:10:11,080 --> 02:10:20,920 Speaker 2: Sure yes, man all Love Big. Dob all. 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