1 00:00:08,285 --> 00:00:11,565 Speaker 1: School of Humans. 2 00:00:12,725 --> 00:00:15,645 Speaker 2: So he was murdered on this side. Yes, he was 3 00:00:15,725 --> 00:00:18,205 Speaker 2: killed in Texas and she lived on the other side. 4 00:00:18,365 --> 00:00:19,685 Speaker 2: She lived in Louisiana. 5 00:00:20,645 --> 00:00:23,805 Speaker 3: We're driving across the Pendleton Bridge, the one that runs 6 00:00:23,805 --> 00:00:27,965 Speaker 3: over the Sabine River and separates Texas and Louisiana. We're 7 00:00:27,965 --> 00:00:31,925 Speaker 3: headed to remote spot on Toledo ben Lake, right across 8 00:00:31,925 --> 00:00:35,525 Speaker 3: the Texas border in Hemple. It's the spot where on 9 00:00:35,565 --> 00:00:39,885 Speaker 3: December thirteenth, twenty twenty, at five twenty eight pm, right 10 00:00:39,965 --> 00:00:43,885 Speaker 3: before the sun disappeared behind the horizon, police in Sabine 11 00:00:43,925 --> 00:00:47,925 Speaker 3: County got a call about a houseboat on fire. The 12 00:00:47,965 --> 00:00:51,085 Speaker 3: houseboat was docked behind three point twenty two Echo Ridge 13 00:00:51,445 --> 00:00:54,165 Speaker 3: off of Cedar Grove Road on Highway twenty one in 14 00:00:54,245 --> 00:00:58,085 Speaker 3: the Pendleton area of Toledo Bend, and that scene very 15 00:00:58,165 --> 00:01:03,725 Speaker 3: quickly descended into total chaos. The firefighters had trouble getting 16 00:01:03,725 --> 00:01:06,245 Speaker 3: out to the remote location, so it took a while, 17 00:01:06,805 --> 00:01:09,485 Speaker 3: and by the time they did get there, the boat 18 00:01:09,725 --> 00:01:14,765 Speaker 3: was completely engulfed in flames. One person who commented on 19 00:01:14,805 --> 00:01:16,805 Speaker 3: Facebook and claimed to have been one of the first 20 00:01:16,845 --> 00:01:20,485 Speaker 3: responders on the scene wrote quote, when we arrived, we 21 00:01:20,565 --> 00:01:22,725 Speaker 3: noticed a pickup truck and a four wheeler on sight, 22 00:01:23,245 --> 00:01:25,725 Speaker 3: so we had a feeling someone may have been in there. 23 00:01:26,285 --> 00:01:27,685 Speaker 1: House boat was fully. 24 00:01:27,365 --> 00:01:30,925 Speaker 3: Engulfed, along with other multiple boats and docks, heavy fire 25 00:01:31,005 --> 00:01:31,805 Speaker 3: and fuel. 26 00:01:31,525 --> 00:01:33,005 Speaker 1: Oil burning on top of water. 27 00:01:33,725 --> 00:01:36,965 Speaker 3: Once fire was knocked down, I had members sweep and 28 00:01:37,085 --> 00:01:41,885 Speaker 3: noticed the remains end quote. Firefighters and paramedics rushed to 29 00:01:41,925 --> 00:01:44,245 Speaker 3: the scene, but it was too late. By the time 30 00:01:44,325 --> 00:01:47,365 Speaker 3: they got there, the walls had caved in and the 31 00:01:47,405 --> 00:01:51,605 Speaker 3: boat had very quickly been completely obscerated by the flames. 32 00:01:52,725 --> 00:01:55,805 Speaker 3: And then when they did dig through the remains, they 33 00:01:55,845 --> 00:01:58,885 Speaker 3: found the body of sixty four year old Doug Janis. 34 00:01:59,925 --> 00:02:03,485 Speaker 3: His charred remains were found in the bedroom of the boat. 35 00:02:04,485 --> 00:02:06,645 Speaker 3: At first, they thought the house fire had been some 36 00:02:06,765 --> 00:02:09,485 Speaker 3: kind of accident, that Doug had died as a result 37 00:02:09,485 --> 00:02:13,445 Speaker 3: of a propane league, but then they took Doug's body 38 00:02:13,445 --> 00:02:17,405 Speaker 3: in for an autopsy. At the forensic exam, they saw 39 00:02:17,525 --> 00:02:21,485 Speaker 3: the two bullets in his head. Doug Janis had been murdered, 40 00:02:22,005 --> 00:02:26,085 Speaker 3: and his much younger, estranged wife, April May Janis, was 41 00:02:26,125 --> 00:02:29,485 Speaker 3: nowhere to be found. But Doug's death was just the 42 00:02:29,525 --> 00:02:32,525 Speaker 3: beginning of a story that goes back twenty years and 43 00:02:32,605 --> 00:02:37,685 Speaker 3: of all sex allegations of corruption and multiple murders. 44 00:02:38,285 --> 00:02:39,405 Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Townsend. 45 00:02:39,805 --> 00:02:42,645 Speaker 3: Over the past five years of making my true crime podcast, 46 00:02:42,725 --> 00:02:45,485 Speaker 3: Helen Gone, I have learned that there is no such 47 00:02:45,565 --> 00:02:48,685 Speaker 3: thing as a small town where murder never happens. I 48 00:02:48,725 --> 00:02:51,325 Speaker 3: have received hundreds of messages from people all around the 49 00:02:51,365 --> 00:02:54,805 Speaker 3: country asking for help with an unsolved murder that's affected them, 50 00:02:55,165 --> 00:02:59,245 Speaker 3: their families, and their communities. If you have a case 51 00:02:59,245 --> 00:03:01,245 Speaker 3: you'd like me and my team to look into, you 52 00:03:01,285 --> 00:03:03,085 Speaker 3: can reach out to us at our Hell and Gone 53 00:03:03,165 --> 00:03:06,285 Speaker 3: Murder line at six seven eight seven four four six 54 00:03:06,365 --> 00:03:09,925 Speaker 3: one four five. That's six seven eight seven four four 55 00:03:10,285 --> 00:03:13,325 Speaker 3: six one four five, or you can send us a 56 00:03:13,325 --> 00:03:20,125 Speaker 3: message on Instagram at Hell and Gone pod. This is 57 00:03:20,165 --> 00:04:05,645 Speaker 3: Helen Gone Murder Line. 58 00:04:07,605 --> 00:04:12,565 Speaker 4: Hello. Hey, this is Amy Propelling on. Hi. How are 59 00:04:12,605 --> 00:04:14,485 Speaker 4: you doing good? Can you talk? 60 00:04:15,045 --> 00:04:15,245 Speaker 3: Yes? 61 00:04:15,405 --> 00:04:18,005 Speaker 4: Yes, I am fixing to get into a place away 62 00:04:18,045 --> 00:04:21,685 Speaker 4: from my grandbaby. We have currently have no power because 63 00:04:21,885 --> 00:04:26,005 Speaker 4: the hurricane the weather comes through and so so if 64 00:04:26,045 --> 00:04:28,365 Speaker 4: I lose you, that's probably that's what's going to happen. 65 00:04:28,485 --> 00:04:29,885 Speaker 1: Is our services just. 66 00:04:29,885 --> 00:04:31,125 Speaker 4: I mean live out in the country. 67 00:04:31,205 --> 00:04:33,205 Speaker 2: So okay. 68 00:04:33,925 --> 00:04:37,325 Speaker 3: I heard about this case when a podcast listener reached 69 00:04:37,365 --> 00:04:39,725 Speaker 3: out She was a friend of Doug's who said that 70 00:04:39,765 --> 00:04:42,285 Speaker 3: Doug's death was all over the news in that rural 71 00:04:42,325 --> 00:04:45,485 Speaker 3: region of East Texas, but then all of a sudden 72 00:04:45,725 --> 00:04:50,245 Speaker 3: it wasn't. No one ever heard anymore about the death investigation. 73 00:04:51,445 --> 00:04:54,885 Speaker 3: Her name is April, not to be confused with Doug's 74 00:04:54,885 --> 00:04:58,565 Speaker 3: wife April. Doug's friend. April said that she knew Doug 75 00:04:58,645 --> 00:05:01,845 Speaker 3: through church. She said that he was always friendly and kind, 76 00:05:01,965 --> 00:05:05,605 Speaker 3: and that she believed he was a religious man. He 77 00:05:05,685 --> 00:05:07,565 Speaker 3: said that in the final years of his life, Doug 78 00:05:07,605 --> 00:05:10,245 Speaker 3: became very involved with a local Pentecostal church. 79 00:05:10,685 --> 00:05:12,085 Speaker 1: That's where she knew him from. 80 00:05:12,365 --> 00:05:14,845 Speaker 4: Doug gets not all a whole lot, a whole lot 81 00:05:14,885 --> 00:05:18,645 Speaker 4: to our family, and we went to church together. 82 00:05:19,485 --> 00:05:22,685 Speaker 3: There wasn't much information out there about Doug Janis's murder. 83 00:05:23,125 --> 00:05:26,325 Speaker 3: Local news stations quoted an affidavit, but it was brief 84 00:05:26,365 --> 00:05:28,525 Speaker 3: and just said the cause of death was due to 85 00:05:28,565 --> 00:05:33,365 Speaker 3: Doug Janice being shot in the head. The houseboat, as 86 00:05:33,405 --> 00:05:36,445 Speaker 3: we said before, had gone up in flames. At first, 87 00:05:36,485 --> 00:05:38,565 Speaker 3: the police and paramedics thought it was some kind of 88 00:05:38,565 --> 00:05:41,725 Speaker 3: a pro pain leak or freak accident. Doug was a 89 00:05:41,845 --> 00:05:44,565 Speaker 3: very well known commercial cat fisherman in the area. He 90 00:05:44,565 --> 00:05:47,045 Speaker 3: had not only built a houseboat over the years, he 91 00:05:47,085 --> 00:05:51,125 Speaker 3: had also acquired several smaller houseboats. He kept them all together, 92 00:05:51,885 --> 00:05:55,165 Speaker 3: so he had a lot of property down there. He 93 00:05:55,245 --> 00:05:59,365 Speaker 3: also had a fireplace on that houseboat and pro pain tanks. 94 00:05:59,925 --> 00:06:02,525 Speaker 3: But once they took Doug's body to Beaumont, Texas and 95 00:06:02,525 --> 00:06:05,325 Speaker 3: did the autopsy, they saw the cause of death had 96 00:06:05,325 --> 00:06:08,325 Speaker 3: been the fatal shots to his head, not the house fire, 97 00:06:09,085 --> 00:06:12,285 Speaker 3: and right away people were asking questions about his wife, 98 00:06:12,365 --> 00:06:14,845 Speaker 3: April May Janis and where she was at the time 99 00:06:14,885 --> 00:06:19,085 Speaker 3: of the murder, because, according to Doug's friend April, Doug 100 00:06:19,205 --> 00:06:21,605 Speaker 3: and his wife April were estranged. At the time of 101 00:06:21,645 --> 00:06:24,725 Speaker 3: his death, they were not living together and they hadn't 102 00:06:24,765 --> 00:06:28,605 Speaker 3: been living together for a long time. April first moved 103 00:06:28,645 --> 00:06:30,605 Speaker 3: into a mobile home that was just up the hill 104 00:06:30,605 --> 00:06:33,805 Speaker 3: from Doug's houseboat while he stayed on the water, but 105 00:06:33,925 --> 00:06:37,485 Speaker 3: later she moved into her own place in Minnie, Louisiana, 106 00:06:37,605 --> 00:06:42,445 Speaker 3: right across the bridge. Exactly when April relocated and what 107 00:06:42,445 --> 00:06:44,245 Speaker 3: the story was there is something we're going to be 108 00:06:44,245 --> 00:06:48,765 Speaker 3: diving into in future episodes. At the same time, there 109 00:06:48,765 --> 00:06:52,205 Speaker 3: were rumors that witnesses had seen a vehicle rapidly speeding 110 00:06:52,205 --> 00:06:55,765 Speaker 3: away from the houseboat, basically right before it blew up. 111 00:06:56,565 --> 00:06:59,125 Speaker 3: We talked to Doug's friend, April about some of the 112 00:06:59,165 --> 00:07:01,005 Speaker 3: irregularities at the crime scene. 113 00:07:01,485 --> 00:07:05,965 Speaker 4: He lived on the boat and she lived in a 114 00:07:06,085 --> 00:07:08,885 Speaker 4: mobile home up the hill from him. She did not 115 00:07:09,005 --> 00:07:12,285 Speaker 4: even at that point, she was not even living in 116 00:07:12,325 --> 00:07:16,285 Speaker 4: the same place with him, and he had He didn't 117 00:07:16,325 --> 00:07:18,925 Speaker 4: even sleep in his own bed ever, he slept in 118 00:07:18,925 --> 00:07:21,725 Speaker 4: a recliner because he had a bad hernia. I guess 119 00:07:22,565 --> 00:07:24,605 Speaker 4: since he was a commercial fisherman, you know, he had 120 00:07:24,605 --> 00:07:27,365 Speaker 4: to bend over the boat and lift heavy fish, you know, 121 00:07:27,445 --> 00:07:32,005 Speaker 4: out of the water and stuff. And when they put 122 00:07:32,045 --> 00:07:35,085 Speaker 4: the fire out and they found his body, it was 123 00:07:35,165 --> 00:07:37,765 Speaker 4: in the bed with and he had two bullet holes 124 00:07:37,765 --> 00:07:38,605 Speaker 4: in the back of the head. 125 00:07:39,965 --> 00:07:43,085 Speaker 3: This has been a difficult case. We have done multiple 126 00:07:43,165 --> 00:07:45,885 Speaker 3: FOI requests, but the case file is not public information 127 00:07:46,085 --> 00:07:50,725 Speaker 3: since this is still an active investigation. But that answered 128 00:07:50,765 --> 00:07:53,685 Speaker 3: one important question for me. I knew Doug was shot 129 00:07:53,685 --> 00:07:56,165 Speaker 3: in the head. Now we found out he was shot 130 00:07:56,205 --> 00:07:58,645 Speaker 3: in the back of the head. This was definitely a 131 00:07:58,725 --> 00:08:04,085 Speaker 3: murder case. Doug had been shot execution style, but who 132 00:08:04,125 --> 00:08:06,965 Speaker 3: would have wanted to kill Doug Chamis, a man who 133 00:08:07,125 --> 00:08:10,485 Speaker 3: everyone seemed to love in that neighborhood. We need to 134 00:08:10,525 --> 00:08:13,565 Speaker 3: find more information about what Doug was doing on that houseboat, 135 00:08:14,045 --> 00:08:17,725 Speaker 3: and also about his wife, about his relationship with his wife, April. 136 00:08:18,365 --> 00:08:21,125 Speaker 3: We also need to find these witnesses who said they 137 00:08:21,165 --> 00:08:23,685 Speaker 3: saw a car speeding away from the blazing houseboat. 138 00:08:24,605 --> 00:08:27,125 Speaker 1: But even without the case file, we did get a 139 00:08:27,125 --> 00:08:27,725 Speaker 1: few facts. 140 00:08:28,805 --> 00:08:32,485 Speaker 3: The pathologists found two bullets lodged in Doug's brain and 141 00:08:32,565 --> 00:08:35,845 Speaker 3: ruled the manner of death a homicide. So as we 142 00:08:35,925 --> 00:08:39,005 Speaker 3: wait for more official police and forensic information to come, 143 00:08:39,765 --> 00:08:45,525 Speaker 3: we need to ask who was Doug Janis. Everyone has 144 00:08:45,685 --> 00:08:48,445 Speaker 3: secret parts of themselves they don't want others to see, 145 00:08:48,845 --> 00:08:52,485 Speaker 3: and in a murder case, often those hidden dark sides 146 00:08:52,605 --> 00:08:56,525 Speaker 3: become public when it comes to Doug Janis's murder. I 147 00:08:56,565 --> 00:08:59,565 Speaker 3: can't remember a case I've ever investigated where it seems 148 00:08:59,565 --> 00:09:02,085 Speaker 3: like the victim is so loved and so hated at 149 00:09:02,125 --> 00:09:06,005 Speaker 3: the same time. Most of the news articles about Doug 150 00:09:06,005 --> 00:09:09,045 Speaker 3: are really positive, but at the same time I noticed 151 00:09:09,045 --> 00:09:13,365 Speaker 3: they're pretty vague. For example, the local news station KJAS 152 00:09:13,365 --> 00:09:16,885 Speaker 3: dot com had an article that read quote Doug Janis 153 00:09:16,925 --> 00:09:19,445 Speaker 3: was living the dream and doing what he loved along 154 00:09:19,445 --> 00:09:23,085 Speaker 3: the banks of Toledo Ben Lake fishing. He was known 155 00:09:23,125 --> 00:09:26,445 Speaker 3: by the fishing community as the Catfishman and well loved 156 00:09:26,485 --> 00:09:30,005 Speaker 3: by all who met him end quote. So they painted 157 00:09:30,045 --> 00:09:32,485 Speaker 3: a picture of Doug Janis as being this nice guy 158 00:09:32,525 --> 00:09:34,925 Speaker 3: who was living out his golden years on a houseboat 159 00:09:34,965 --> 00:09:37,845 Speaker 3: that he built himself. In all of the photos I 160 00:09:37,845 --> 00:09:40,205 Speaker 3: can find of Doug, he has a huge smile on 161 00:09:40,285 --> 00:09:40,685 Speaker 3: his face. 162 00:09:41,565 --> 00:09:44,485 Speaker 1: Doug was fit. He spent a lot of time fishing. 163 00:09:44,725 --> 00:09:47,165 Speaker 3: He also got a scuba diving certification and was a 164 00:09:47,205 --> 00:09:50,925 Speaker 3: pretty avid diver for years in the Texas Gulf Coast area. 165 00:09:51,085 --> 00:09:52,405 Speaker 1: Doug was always on the water. 166 00:09:52,485 --> 00:09:54,725 Speaker 3: He was obsessed with the houseboat that he had designed 167 00:09:54,725 --> 00:09:57,605 Speaker 3: and built himself. He loved showing his boat off to 168 00:09:57,645 --> 00:10:00,645 Speaker 3: friends and family. I'm going to take a step back 169 00:10:00,685 --> 00:10:03,445 Speaker 3: for a minute, because you can't unravel what happened to 170 00:10:03,445 --> 00:10:07,165 Speaker 3: Doug Jannis without talking about the area where it happened. 171 00:10:08,165 --> 00:10:11,645 Speaker 3: This infamous houseboat that sat on the Toledo Bend Reservoir. 172 00:10:12,645 --> 00:10:15,365 Speaker 3: This reservoir is on the Sabine River. It sits on 173 00:10:15,365 --> 00:10:17,325 Speaker 3: the border between Texas and Louisiana. 174 00:10:17,885 --> 00:10:19,045 Speaker 1: It is a super. 175 00:10:18,805 --> 00:10:21,365 Speaker 3: Rural area and the people who live there are kind 176 00:10:21,365 --> 00:10:24,605 Speaker 3: of an eclectic combination. You've got families who've lived there 177 00:10:24,605 --> 00:10:29,125 Speaker 3: for generations, also a lot of retired people and people 178 00:10:29,125 --> 00:10:31,965 Speaker 3: who come there to fish on weekends. This area, the 179 00:10:31,965 --> 00:10:35,525 Speaker 3: Toledo Bend Reservoir, by the way, is huge. It has 180 00:10:35,565 --> 00:10:38,325 Speaker 3: an area of one hundred and eighty five thousand acres. 181 00:10:38,605 --> 00:10:40,085 Speaker 1: It's about eighty miles long. 182 00:10:40,125 --> 00:10:42,565 Speaker 3: It's the largest man made body of water in the 183 00:10:42,645 --> 00:10:45,445 Speaker 3: South and the fifth largest in the entire United States. 184 00:10:46,885 --> 00:10:47,445 Speaker 1: The lake is. 185 00:10:47,445 --> 00:10:50,605 Speaker 3: Well known as being amazing for fishing, especially for catfish, 186 00:10:50,685 --> 00:10:55,005 Speaker 3: Doug's favorite, but the water is murky. Some people claim 187 00:10:55,165 --> 00:10:59,565 Speaker 3: that although there is swimming there, it's not necessarily recommended 188 00:10:59,605 --> 00:11:03,285 Speaker 3: in some areas due to alligators. When I see the 189 00:11:03,325 --> 00:11:06,205 Speaker 3: trees that are sticking out of the water, it does 190 00:11:06,285 --> 00:11:10,405 Speaker 3: look like a beautiful nature spot. I also can't help 191 00:11:10,445 --> 00:11:13,245 Speaker 3: thinking about what could be floating in that lake, like 192 00:11:13,325 --> 00:11:18,845 Speaker 3: alligators or dead bodies. And according to some Facebook postings 193 00:11:18,845 --> 00:11:23,645 Speaker 3: by residents, the area is very remote. The nearest hospital 194 00:11:23,765 --> 00:11:26,725 Speaker 3: is fifteen miles away and takes twenty five minutes to 195 00:11:26,805 --> 00:11:30,005 Speaker 3: drive to. Even the fire department is several miles away. 196 00:11:30,045 --> 00:11:33,925 Speaker 3: Across the bridge. The area looks a lot like the Ozarks, 197 00:11:34,005 --> 00:11:35,485 Speaker 3: especially on the Texas side. 198 00:11:35,605 --> 00:11:38,085 Speaker 1: The road is getting scared. I believe if fire drug 199 00:11:38,165 --> 00:11:39,885 Speaker 1: made it for multiple fire troups. 200 00:11:40,645 --> 00:11:43,925 Speaker 3: According to the obituary for Douglas Michael Janis, he was 201 00:11:43,965 --> 00:11:47,285 Speaker 3: born August eighth, nineteen fifty six in Lake Jackson. He 202 00:11:47,325 --> 00:11:49,565 Speaker 3: grew up with his mother, Wanda and his stepfather, Bill, 203 00:11:49,645 --> 00:11:52,685 Speaker 3: who adopted him. Doug was the oldest of four siblings. 204 00:11:54,125 --> 00:11:57,845 Speaker 3: His obituary red quote, Doug will be remembered as one 205 00:11:57,845 --> 00:12:00,285 Speaker 3: who never minded a hard day's work and never shot 206 00:12:00,325 --> 00:12:02,805 Speaker 3: away from a challenge. There was not a lazy bone 207 00:12:02,845 --> 00:12:05,365 Speaker 3: in his body, and he was not afraid of hard work. 208 00:12:05,685 --> 00:12:09,365 Speaker 3: He was energetic, always hustling, and never looked for a handout. 209 00:12:10,005 --> 00:12:12,725 Speaker 3: Those who knew him best and loved him most never 210 00:12:12,805 --> 00:12:16,885 Speaker 3: knew him not to be working end quote. Doug lived 211 00:12:16,925 --> 00:12:19,485 Speaker 3: most of his life in Silsby. He worked as an 212 00:12:19,485 --> 00:12:23,165 Speaker 3: insurance sales representative for Farm Bureau. He had apparently won 213 00:12:23,205 --> 00:12:24,165 Speaker 3: awards for his work. 214 00:12:25,325 --> 00:12:26,365 Speaker 1: Doug was busy. 215 00:12:26,565 --> 00:12:28,845 Speaker 3: He did a lot of different jobs during his lifetime, 216 00:12:29,045 --> 00:12:32,845 Speaker 3: most involving manual labor, including offshore drilling rigs in the 217 00:12:32,845 --> 00:12:37,085 Speaker 3: Gulf of Mexico at one point, he installed satellite dishes 218 00:12:37,165 --> 00:12:40,925 Speaker 3: in Austin, Texas. Doug was an entrepreneur. He ran several 219 00:12:40,965 --> 00:12:44,765 Speaker 3: small businesses himself, including a fish market. As we said, 220 00:12:44,885 --> 00:12:47,885 Speaker 3: he always had a fascination with a Toledo Bend Lake 221 00:12:47,965 --> 00:12:51,445 Speaker 3: area because of the lake, he was obsessed with fishing, 222 00:12:51,485 --> 00:12:54,445 Speaker 3: and eventually he moved there and worked as a commercial 223 00:12:54,485 --> 00:12:58,485 Speaker 3: fisherman supplying local restaurants. Doug apparently made a lot of 224 00:12:58,525 --> 00:13:02,485 Speaker 3: money at his craft. He was super industrious, and even 225 00:13:02,525 --> 00:13:04,685 Speaker 3: though he lived on the Texas side of the border, 226 00:13:05,125 --> 00:13:07,525 Speaker 3: there was a seventy five fish limit per day there, 227 00:13:07,965 --> 00:13:10,765 Speaker 3: so Doug liked to fish on the Louisiana side where 228 00:13:10,805 --> 00:13:14,005 Speaker 3: he could catch an unlimited amount of fish. Doug apparently 229 00:13:14,045 --> 00:13:16,285 Speaker 3: made a lot of money and kept a lot of 230 00:13:16,285 --> 00:13:19,085 Speaker 3: money on his boat. We'll get back to that later. 231 00:13:21,165 --> 00:13:25,885 Speaker 3: Back to the obituary. The obituary continued, quote his friends 232 00:13:25,885 --> 00:13:28,365 Speaker 3: and acquaintances knew him to be a man's man who 233 00:13:28,405 --> 00:13:31,325 Speaker 3: was creative, independent, and could do anything he set his 234 00:13:31,365 --> 00:13:34,045 Speaker 3: mind to do. He's never met a stranger and was 235 00:13:34,125 --> 00:13:36,645 Speaker 3: known for his gregarious, outgoing personality. 236 00:13:36,885 --> 00:13:37,405 Speaker 1: End quote. 237 00:13:38,245 --> 00:13:43,005 Speaker 3: Because Doug was obsessed with fishing, especially catfishing, he loved 238 00:13:43,005 --> 00:13:46,205 Speaker 3: cooking for friends, hanging out, and throwing barbecues for friends 239 00:13:46,205 --> 00:13:49,405 Speaker 3: and family, and according to his obituary, he became kind 240 00:13:49,405 --> 00:13:52,205 Speaker 3: of a local celebrity because of this self made houseboat. 241 00:13:52,765 --> 00:13:54,285 Speaker 1: The obituary closes with. 242 00:13:54,285 --> 00:13:57,405 Speaker 3: Quote, in his final moments, he was at home, in 243 00:13:57,445 --> 00:14:00,925 Speaker 3: the place he loved and enjoyed most end quote. I 244 00:14:00,965 --> 00:14:03,685 Speaker 3: think it's important to quote these things exactly because this 245 00:14:03,925 --> 00:14:06,965 Speaker 3: was crafted by Doug's family, the people closest to him. 246 00:14:07,605 --> 00:14:09,925 Speaker 3: They obviously loved him a lot, and this was the 247 00:14:09,965 --> 00:14:14,325 Speaker 3: side of him that they saw. But like everyone, Doug 248 00:14:14,405 --> 00:14:19,725 Speaker 3: Janis had another side to him. After Doug was cremated, 249 00:14:19,845 --> 00:14:22,805 Speaker 3: his remains were given back to his family. The obituary 250 00:14:22,805 --> 00:14:25,845 Speaker 3: states Doug's ashes were scattered in the same water where 251 00:14:25,845 --> 00:14:30,165 Speaker 3: he used to feed alligators marshmallows. Meanwhile, police were trying 252 00:14:30,165 --> 00:14:33,725 Speaker 3: to piece together Doug's personal life, and we tried to 253 00:14:33,765 --> 00:14:36,445 Speaker 3: do the same, because it turned out it was complicated. 254 00:14:37,325 --> 00:14:40,645 Speaker 3: Doug Janis's obituary leaves out a few pretty crucial things, 255 00:14:41,125 --> 00:14:43,285 Speaker 3: and there were also things about the crime scene that, 256 00:14:43,365 --> 00:14:46,805 Speaker 3: even on first impression, do not seem to make sense. 257 00:14:47,885 --> 00:14:51,245 Speaker 3: First of all, Doug had recently had a hernia operation. 258 00:14:51,685 --> 00:14:54,205 Speaker 3: Because of that, he would normally sleep in his recliner 259 00:14:54,325 --> 00:14:57,365 Speaker 3: in the living room, and yet he was found with 260 00:14:57,405 --> 00:15:00,525 Speaker 3: two gunshots in the head on his bed and the 261 00:15:00,565 --> 00:15:04,005 Speaker 3: fire trucks came at five twenty eight pm. So why 262 00:15:04,125 --> 00:15:06,285 Speaker 3: was he in the bedroom in the middle the afternoon, 263 00:15:06,645 --> 00:15:08,245 Speaker 3: especially since he wasn't sleeping there? 264 00:15:08,285 --> 00:15:08,765 Speaker 1: Apparently? 265 00:15:08,805 --> 00:15:11,605 Speaker 3: In general, we also need to find out the layout 266 00:15:11,645 --> 00:15:15,045 Speaker 3: of that boat, something else I noticed, because I'm always 267 00:15:15,045 --> 00:15:18,325 Speaker 3: looking not just for the information obituaries provide, but for 268 00:15:18,405 --> 00:15:23,405 Speaker 3: the information they leave out. As we know, everyone has 269 00:15:23,445 --> 00:15:28,445 Speaker 3: their own version of the victim. The obituary mentions who 270 00:15:28,525 --> 00:15:31,405 Speaker 3: Doug is survived by. It mentions his daughter, who we 271 00:15:31,525 --> 00:15:34,885 Speaker 3: have spoken to, but she's a private person and obviously 272 00:15:34,925 --> 00:15:37,325 Speaker 3: this has been traumatic for her, so I'm not mentioning 273 00:15:37,365 --> 00:15:39,805 Speaker 3: her name here, as well as his son in law 274 00:15:39,805 --> 00:15:43,525 Speaker 3: and grandchildren, his brother and sister, and other family members. 275 00:15:44,205 --> 00:15:47,405 Speaker 3: The obituary even mentions the many grateful fish who eluded 276 00:15:47,405 --> 00:15:51,645 Speaker 3: his capture, etc. But the obituary does not mention Doug's 277 00:15:51,645 --> 00:15:56,085 Speaker 3: a strange wife, April. In fact, Doug's obituary doesn't mention 278 00:15:56,205 --> 00:15:57,685 Speaker 3: any of Doug's former wives. 279 00:16:00,685 --> 00:16:01,845 Speaker 1: For me, the omission of. 280 00:16:01,845 --> 00:16:05,085 Speaker 3: The wife and the obituary was a potential clue. I 281 00:16:05,125 --> 00:16:08,405 Speaker 3: wanted to understand their romantic history, and how April and 282 00:16:08,445 --> 00:16:10,925 Speaker 3: Doug got together was a little bit of a mystery. 283 00:16:11,565 --> 00:16:14,645 Speaker 3: It was not solved, either, as we said, by reading 284 00:16:14,685 --> 00:16:18,525 Speaker 3: Doug's obituary or by the YouTube tribute memorial video that 285 00:16:18,645 --> 00:16:21,965 Speaker 3: was made by the funeral home. I watched that video 286 00:16:22,205 --> 00:16:25,685 Speaker 3: several times. We learned from Doug's daughter that he was 287 00:16:25,765 --> 00:16:29,165 Speaker 3: married a total of five times, twice to the same woman, 288 00:16:29,805 --> 00:16:31,845 Speaker 3: so he had four wives in total. 289 00:16:32,645 --> 00:16:34,845 Speaker 1: I noticed there were several shots. 290 00:16:34,485 --> 00:16:37,245 Speaker 3: In the memorial video of Doug's former wives and of 291 00:16:37,325 --> 00:16:39,685 Speaker 3: him with his children when they were young, but there 292 00:16:39,765 --> 00:16:43,045 Speaker 3: was only one quick flash near the end, one single 293 00:16:43,085 --> 00:16:46,685 Speaker 3: shot of April. And in that photo, Doug is wearing 294 00:16:46,725 --> 00:16:49,645 Speaker 3: a Hawaiian shirt. He's very tanned, he's got silver hair, 295 00:16:50,165 --> 00:16:53,325 Speaker 3: He's older but still obviously a very fit man, with 296 00:16:53,365 --> 00:16:56,525 Speaker 3: a huge smile on his face. April is standing next 297 00:16:56,565 --> 00:16:59,845 Speaker 3: to him with what I can best describe a completely 298 00:17:00,005 --> 00:17:04,005 Speaker 3: blank expression. As I looked at April, I couldn't get 299 00:17:04,045 --> 00:17:06,765 Speaker 3: any sense of her and Doug's were life relationship. I 300 00:17:06,845 --> 00:17:10,365 Speaker 3: wanted to know more since April was nowhere to be 301 00:17:10,365 --> 00:17:13,885 Speaker 3: seen in the obituary. It seemed that Doug's family was 302 00:17:13,885 --> 00:17:17,725 Speaker 3: suspicious of April, but they were not the only ones. 303 00:17:18,325 --> 00:17:20,165 Speaker 1: Police were suspicious of April two. 304 00:17:20,085 --> 00:17:24,485 Speaker 3: And on January fourteenth, twenty twenty one, April may Janis 305 00:17:24,525 --> 00:17:37,125 Speaker 3: was arrested and charged with Doug's murder. On January fourteenth, 306 00:17:37,205 --> 00:17:41,165 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, almost exactly a month after Doug Janis 307 00:17:41,205 --> 00:17:44,805 Speaker 3: was fatally shot on his houseboat, his estranged wife, April 308 00:17:44,845 --> 00:17:48,365 Speaker 3: may Janis, was charged with his murder. We learned from 309 00:17:48,445 --> 00:17:50,325 Speaker 3: friends of Doug's that at the time of his death, 310 00:17:50,365 --> 00:17:53,645 Speaker 3: April and Doug were not living together. Doug was living 311 00:17:53,685 --> 00:17:56,405 Speaker 3: on his houseboat, while April had been staying on a 312 00:17:56,445 --> 00:17:59,645 Speaker 3: mobile trailer elsewhere on the property. This is a big 313 00:17:59,685 --> 00:18:04,605 Speaker 3: property that spans quite a few acres. Doug owned more 314 00:18:04,605 --> 00:18:07,245 Speaker 3: than one piece of prime property. He also owned a 315 00:18:07,285 --> 00:18:09,965 Speaker 3: second residence in Louisiana on the other side of the border. 316 00:18:10,685 --> 00:18:14,605 Speaker 3: We learned that April had been living there. She relocated 317 00:18:14,645 --> 00:18:18,485 Speaker 3: to that property a while back. My research assistant Amy 318 00:18:18,525 --> 00:18:20,685 Speaker 3: and I talked about this case a lot. 319 00:18:21,925 --> 00:18:25,485 Speaker 2: This is the bridge that divides Texas and Louisiana. 320 00:18:25,525 --> 00:18:29,525 Speaker 1: Across the water divides the lake and. 321 00:18:30,645 --> 00:18:34,965 Speaker 2: If you believe that April committed this crime. She would 322 00:18:35,005 --> 00:18:38,645 Speaker 2: have had to cross this bridge, and the fire department 323 00:18:38,805 --> 00:18:41,525 Speaker 2: would have had to cross this bridge as well, and 324 00:18:41,605 --> 00:18:42,485 Speaker 2: it's a long bridge. 325 00:18:42,845 --> 00:18:47,165 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were trying to figure out what exactly went down. 326 00:18:47,965 --> 00:18:51,285 Speaker 3: Since this murder happened right on the Texas Louisiana border, 327 00:18:51,845 --> 00:18:55,245 Speaker 3: we knew that this case might have involved multiple counties. So, 328 00:18:55,325 --> 00:18:58,805 Speaker 3: according to the affidavit, police became suspicious of April for 329 00:18:58,805 --> 00:19:01,965 Speaker 3: several reasons. First of all, when they interviewed her, they 330 00:19:02,005 --> 00:19:04,885 Speaker 3: did not believe she appeared to be grieving at all. 331 00:19:06,005 --> 00:19:09,165 Speaker 3: They believed she was showing signs of deception during that interview, 332 00:19:09,565 --> 00:19:11,525 Speaker 3: and when they asked her if she killed her husband, 333 00:19:11,565 --> 00:19:14,645 Speaker 3: she would quote nod yes, but say no end quote. 334 00:19:15,285 --> 00:19:18,845 Speaker 3: Police also noted that April did not show any shock 335 00:19:18,965 --> 00:19:21,005 Speaker 3: or grief when she was told that the boat burning 336 00:19:21,045 --> 00:19:24,045 Speaker 3: down was to cover up a homicide, not an accident. 337 00:19:24,845 --> 00:19:27,765 Speaker 3: The officer who scored the affidavit wrote he discovered that 338 00:19:27,805 --> 00:19:30,845 Speaker 3: April had a boyfriend in Louisiana who she was in 339 00:19:30,845 --> 00:19:35,325 Speaker 3: love with and intimate with. Police also discovered a potential motive. 340 00:19:35,845 --> 00:19:39,005 Speaker 3: Doug kept a lot of cash on his houseboat. Police 341 00:19:39,045 --> 00:19:41,685 Speaker 3: also found out that there was apparently an insurance policy 342 00:19:41,725 --> 00:19:44,565 Speaker 3: on Doug. In the affidavit, they said that there was 343 00:19:44,565 --> 00:19:47,445 Speaker 3: a one hundred thousand dollars policy that paid out in 344 00:19:47,485 --> 00:19:51,005 Speaker 3: the event of Doug's death and April was the sole beneficiary. 345 00:19:52,205 --> 00:19:55,205 Speaker 3: Police talked to witnesses and found one who told authorities 346 00:19:55,285 --> 00:19:58,365 Speaker 3: that on Sunday, December thirteenth, twenty twenty, the night of 347 00:19:58,405 --> 00:20:02,845 Speaker 3: the murder, they saw April leaving Doug's boat sometime between 348 00:20:03,005 --> 00:20:06,285 Speaker 3: four thirty to five thirty pm. They said that it 349 00:20:06,325 --> 00:20:09,445 Speaker 3: was dusk, but that they could still clearly see that 350 00:20:09,525 --> 00:20:12,725 Speaker 3: it was April. They said that April left home and 351 00:20:12,805 --> 00:20:16,365 Speaker 3: passed by the witness's house fifteen to twenty minutes before 352 00:20:16,605 --> 00:20:19,845 Speaker 3: the first fire truck arrived on scene. The witness said 353 00:20:19,845 --> 00:20:21,805 Speaker 3: they were sure it was April. They had known April 354 00:20:21,805 --> 00:20:23,565 Speaker 3: for a long time, since she was a little girl. 355 00:20:24,205 --> 00:20:27,845 Speaker 3: They definitely recognized her. They saw her driving her blue 356 00:20:27,885 --> 00:20:32,245 Speaker 3: Dodge truck. The affidavit red quote the information collected and 357 00:20:32,285 --> 00:20:35,245 Speaker 3: the eyewitness statement places the defendant at the crime scene 358 00:20:35,565 --> 00:20:37,925 Speaker 3: while the houseboat was on fire and just before the 359 00:20:37,965 --> 00:20:41,125 Speaker 3: fire truck arrived end quote, which would have been in 360 00:20:41,165 --> 00:20:43,245 Speaker 3: the minutes leading up to when the fire was called 361 00:20:43,285 --> 00:20:47,445 Speaker 3: in at five twenty eight pm. After April Janis was 362 00:20:47,565 --> 00:20:51,405 Speaker 3: arrested and charged with murder on January fourteenth, things seemed 363 00:20:51,445 --> 00:20:55,685 Speaker 3: to be moving toward trial. Prosecutors seemed confident in their case. 364 00:20:56,405 --> 00:20:59,725 Speaker 3: A ten million dollar bond was set on April, but 365 00:20:59,885 --> 00:21:07,325 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, everything changed. First, quietly, the 366 00:21:07,405 --> 00:21:09,965 Speaker 3: judge lowered the bail amount in April's case from ten 367 00:21:10,045 --> 00:21:13,405 Speaker 3: million dollars to two hundred thousand, which meant that she 368 00:21:13,445 --> 00:21:15,725 Speaker 3: would only need to come up with about twenty thousand 369 00:21:15,765 --> 00:21:19,845 Speaker 3: dollars to bond out. And that's what happened. April was 370 00:21:19,885 --> 00:21:23,045 Speaker 3: released on bail, and then there was nothing. 371 00:21:23,805 --> 00:21:24,645 Speaker 1: No more news. 372 00:21:24,485 --> 00:21:27,525 Speaker 3: Stories about the case, no updates. We were able to 373 00:21:27,525 --> 00:21:30,005 Speaker 3: get a list of April's bond conditions and we learned 374 00:21:30,045 --> 00:21:33,485 Speaker 3: that pretty much all of the restrictions were removed. All 375 00:21:33,485 --> 00:21:36,405 Speaker 3: she had to do was surrender her passport and basically 376 00:21:36,445 --> 00:21:37,725 Speaker 3: agree to not leave the country. 377 00:21:38,245 --> 00:21:40,485 Speaker 1: She didn't have to report to anyone. She was free. 378 00:21:42,125 --> 00:21:45,245 Speaker 3: The prosecutors apparently thought they just didn't have enough evidence 379 00:21:45,285 --> 00:21:47,725 Speaker 3: to pursue the case. That's the official story, and we 380 00:21:47,885 --> 00:21:50,485 Speaker 3: know that sometimes this happens in these cases. The bar 381 00:21:51,085 --> 00:21:53,885 Speaker 3: to take someone to trial and to convict someone of 382 00:21:53,965 --> 00:21:56,245 Speaker 3: murder is very high and that's a good thing. 383 00:21:57,085 --> 00:21:59,085 Speaker 1: But I couldn't figure this case out. 384 00:21:59,885 --> 00:22:03,005 Speaker 3: I know it's circumstantial, but there appear to be a 385 00:22:03,045 --> 00:22:06,205 Speaker 3: lot of facts that could have led towards April being 386 00:22:06,205 --> 00:22:08,925 Speaker 3: taken to trial. You have a witness who apparently saw 387 00:22:09,005 --> 00:22:10,765 Speaker 3: at the crime scene around the time of the murder. 388 00:22:11,165 --> 00:22:13,245 Speaker 3: You have the fact that there's a life insurance policy 389 00:22:13,725 --> 00:22:17,285 Speaker 3: of which, according to police, she's the sole beneficiary one 390 00:22:17,365 --> 00:22:21,645 Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars. There was marital infidelity. She had a 391 00:22:21,645 --> 00:22:24,845 Speaker 3: boyfriend in Louisiana, and according to the source we talked to, 392 00:22:25,485 --> 00:22:27,765 Speaker 3: April and Doug were not living in the home together. 393 00:22:27,965 --> 00:22:30,765 Speaker 3: She was living somewhere else, So you have a separation. 394 00:22:32,605 --> 00:22:35,565 Speaker 3: And then we found out something else. It turned out 395 00:22:35,965 --> 00:22:39,685 Speaker 3: that Doug was not the first person close to April 396 00:22:39,845 --> 00:22:46,925 Speaker 3: who died violently under mysterious circumstances. Years earlier, April's mother, 397 00:22:47,325 --> 00:22:55,685 Speaker 3: Anna Thompson, was also fatally shot. We're going to get 398 00:22:55,685 --> 00:22:59,005 Speaker 3: a lot more into April Janis's family history next week, 399 00:22:59,845 --> 00:23:02,085 Speaker 3: but for now we can say April grew up in 400 00:23:02,085 --> 00:23:04,325 Speaker 3: the hemp Hill, Texas area with her mom Anna and 401 00:23:04,365 --> 00:23:07,325 Speaker 3: her father, Bob Thompson, who, by the way, was a 402 00:23:07,405 --> 00:23:10,645 Speaker 3: character in his own right. Bob was an army veteran 403 00:23:10,725 --> 00:23:13,805 Speaker 3: who later ran a trucking company. Bob was known around 404 00:23:13,885 --> 00:23:16,565 Speaker 3: town as the one armed biker. This was said with 405 00:23:16,605 --> 00:23:20,085 Speaker 3: affection because he had had an arm amputated after an injury, 406 00:23:20,845 --> 00:23:24,685 Speaker 3: but he loved to constantly ride his motorcycle around. Like Doug, 407 00:23:24,885 --> 00:23:27,165 Speaker 3: Bob was into hunting and fishing and going out on 408 00:23:27,205 --> 00:23:29,725 Speaker 3: the lake. So we're going to go down to the 409 00:23:29,765 --> 00:23:32,325 Speaker 3: area where Doug Janis was murdered and see what we 410 00:23:32,325 --> 00:23:35,645 Speaker 3: can find out. We've been worn. This could be dangerous. 411 00:23:36,205 --> 00:23:38,445 Speaker 3: This is a part of the world where things burned 412 00:23:38,445 --> 00:23:42,765 Speaker 3: to the ground, suspicious fires, flying bullets, violent weather, and 413 00:23:42,885 --> 00:23:47,365 Speaker 3: alligators are not rare occurrences. But we found out several 414 00:23:47,405 --> 00:23:50,965 Speaker 3: things that, in my opinion, are completely groundbreaking and could 415 00:23:51,125 --> 00:23:54,405 Speaker 3: change everything in this case. Several things that make me 416 00:23:54,525 --> 00:23:57,725 Speaker 3: question how and why this case is apparently going cold 417 00:23:58,125 --> 00:24:02,725 Speaker 3: rather than being actively investigated. One was that April Janis 418 00:24:02,965 --> 00:24:06,365 Speaker 3: was not just much younger than her husband. We've heard 419 00:24:06,485 --> 00:24:10,285 Speaker 3: April was a teenager when she started dating Doug. Doug's friend. 420 00:24:10,325 --> 00:24:13,645 Speaker 3: April actually addressed this. She said she noticed how young 421 00:24:13,685 --> 00:24:16,365 Speaker 3: April looked next to Doug when she first met them. 422 00:24:17,125 --> 00:24:20,085 Speaker 4: This is hilarious because I got they started calling me 423 00:24:20,125 --> 00:24:22,725 Speaker 4: big April and her little Aprils to keep the two 424 00:24:22,845 --> 00:24:27,005 Speaker 4: us separate. But I thought that she was his daughter 425 00:24:27,205 --> 00:24:30,845 Speaker 4: or granddaughter by chance or something, because the first time 426 00:24:30,885 --> 00:24:33,165 Speaker 4: he came to church with her, she was a kid. 427 00:24:33,245 --> 00:24:35,525 Speaker 4: She was just a child. And I went and I 428 00:24:35,525 --> 00:24:38,285 Speaker 4: seld him. I says, good, see Doug. And so he 429 00:24:38,445 --> 00:24:40,285 Speaker 4: was like, it's okay. We get this all the time. 430 00:24:40,325 --> 00:24:44,245 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm like, okay. But he was. He 431 00:24:44,325 --> 00:24:44,885 Speaker 4: was a good man. 432 00:24:46,525 --> 00:24:48,965 Speaker 3: Some of his friends seemed to kind of gloss over 433 00:24:49,005 --> 00:24:51,765 Speaker 3: the fact that April was so young, but they may 434 00:24:51,805 --> 00:24:55,285 Speaker 3: be unaware of just how young April was when she 435 00:24:55,405 --> 00:24:58,885 Speaker 3: started becoming involved with Doug. According to people who knew 436 00:24:58,885 --> 00:25:02,765 Speaker 3: April and Doug well, April and Doug started dating when 437 00:25:02,805 --> 00:25:06,125 Speaker 3: she was very young. She was just thirteen years old 438 00:25:06,925 --> 00:25:10,725 Speaker 3: at that time. Doug would have been in his forties. Obviously, 439 00:25:10,885 --> 00:25:13,405 Speaker 3: we're not here to blame victims, but I do think 440 00:25:13,405 --> 00:25:16,165 Speaker 3: it's important to develop a complete picture of Doug Janis 441 00:25:16,445 --> 00:25:18,965 Speaker 3: in order to understand why someone would have wanted to 442 00:25:19,045 --> 00:25:22,245 Speaker 3: murder him execution style, and a big piece of that 443 00:25:22,285 --> 00:25:25,925 Speaker 3: puzzle is understanding what his exact relationship was with April. 444 00:25:28,085 --> 00:25:31,565 Speaker 3: Bob Thompson, April's father, wrote an entire book about April's 445 00:25:31,605 --> 00:25:35,445 Speaker 3: life and the night her mother, Anna was killed, Bob 446 00:25:35,525 --> 00:25:38,445 Speaker 3: passed away. We're going to be reading excerpts from his 447 00:25:38,565 --> 00:25:41,285 Speaker 3: book and we're going to try to piece this story together. 448 00:25:42,205 --> 00:25:44,525 Speaker 3: We're going to talk to someone very close to April, 449 00:25:44,565 --> 00:25:46,565 Speaker 3: and we're going to track down the witness who saw 450 00:25:46,645 --> 00:25:49,485 Speaker 3: Doug's boat burn into the ground. We're going to try 451 00:25:49,485 --> 00:25:52,725 Speaker 3: to find the person who allegedly saw April leaving the scene, 452 00:25:53,245 --> 00:25:55,965 Speaker 3: and we're going to try to figure out what happened 453 00:25:56,005 --> 00:25:58,885 Speaker 3: in that remote lakeside area way back in the woods. 454 00:26:00,285 --> 00:26:03,205 Speaker 3: We will also get into Anna Thompson's death a lot 455 00:26:03,285 --> 00:26:05,845 Speaker 3: more next week, but a lot of the records in 456 00:26:05,885 --> 00:26:08,445 Speaker 3: this case are sealed. From what we've been able to 457 00:26:08,445 --> 00:26:12,045 Speaker 3: figure out, it turns out that twenty one years ago, 458 00:26:12,285 --> 00:26:15,125 Speaker 3: Anna Thompson was shot in the back of the head, 459 00:26:16,125 --> 00:26:17,325 Speaker 3: just like Doug Janis. 460 00:26:18,245 --> 00:26:19,685 Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Townsend. 461 00:26:19,925 --> 00:26:24,845 Speaker 3: This is Helen Gone Murder Line. Helen Gone Murder Line 462 00:26:24,885 --> 00:26:27,285 Speaker 3: is a production of School of Humans and iHeart Podcasts. 463 00:26:27,645 --> 00:26:30,805 Speaker 3: It's written and narrated by me Catherine Townsend and produced 464 00:26:30,805 --> 00:26:34,165 Speaker 3: by Gabby Watts. Special thanks to Amy Tubbs for her 465 00:26:34,165 --> 00:26:37,725 Speaker 3: research assistance. This episode was sound designed and mixed by 466 00:26:37,765 --> 00:26:41,925 Speaker 3: Noah Kameron. 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