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Speaker 1: So I don't I'm not exactly sure what he's required

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Speaker 1: to do. Right. Well, let's get into that question and

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Speaker 1: others with Congressman Toma Clintock represents the fourth District California.

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Speaker 1: Tom has often been described as the gold stand for

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Speaker 1: it's our pleasure. So what would be your brief recap

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Speaker 1: of the Corey Lewandowski grilling yesterday? Is the impeachment investigation began? Well,

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Speaker 1: he didn't say shut down the investigation. He said basically,

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Speaker 1: Here's a dangerous thing about that. You know, whenever there

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Speaker 1: no collusion. Uh, that's not impeachable, that's not obstruction of justice.

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Speaker 1: their entire argument on. Ridiculous. Tom Clintock, Fort District the

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