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Speaker 1: a moment, like nothing is on your mind. You just

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Speaker 1: hear yourself repeating your mantra over and over and over,

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Speaker 1: and it's just like I call it like a sinking

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Speaker 1: feeling almost. Yah, I feel like you're just sinking, sinking, sinking,

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Speaker 1: And I always jump before I go too deep. That's

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Speaker 1: that's what makes me come back. Yeah, imagine imagine you

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Speaker 1: actually felt like you are where your feet are, Like,

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Speaker 1: imagine you actually felt like that that we right now,

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Speaker 1: if we've all put our feet on the ground, you

438
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Speaker 1: actually felt like and what Charlomagne's saying about sinking. If

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Speaker 1: I actually felt like I was actually here? How many

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Speaker 1: times during this conversation, while I've been talking and we've

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Speaker 1: been thinking about what have I got for lunch later on?

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Speaker 1: Or what am I doing later on? Or who am

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00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 1: I meeting? Or what's this going? What if I was

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Speaker 1: actually here? How much could I actually have an impact

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Speaker 1: on the people around me? How much could I actually

446
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Speaker 1: feel people's energy? How much power and strength would I

447
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 1: have if I was actually where my feet are? Which

448
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Speaker 1: is a common phrase and statement that's used in meditation language.

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00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 1: If like, be where your feet are, if we were

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Speaker 1: actually here, just how powerful would that be? And that's

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Speaker 1: what you feel. You actually feel like, I am happy

452
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Speaker 1: to be here. I am only here because think about it.

453
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Speaker 1: When you wake up in the morning, how many times

454
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Speaker 1: have you ever woken up and your mind is ahead

455
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Speaker 1: of your body. Your body's like I don't want to

456
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Speaker 1: go anywhere, and your mind's like racing trying to do

457
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Speaker 1: a million things, or you experienced the opposite. You wake

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Speaker 1: up and your mind is like, oh, come on, I

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Speaker 1: can't do this, but your body's like, come on, we

460
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Speaker 1: gotta go, we gotta go. So what we're experiencing at

461
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: all times is our body and mind are completely out

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Speaker 1: of sync, completely out of sink. They're never in the

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Speaker 1: same place. So meditation, and it's simplest form, is saying, well,

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Speaker 1: let's start here, let's bring them back into sync. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with them being aligned, and imagine how powerful we

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Speaker 1: could do. But if it's somewhere you don't want to

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Speaker 1: be because I know you talk about how people are

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Speaker 1: really stressed at work, yes, and so there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of people who are like, I can't take this anymore.

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Speaker 1: How does meditation help with that? So that feeling of

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Speaker 1: I can't take this anymore can often create more stress

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Speaker 1: and pressure than we actually think. And what I mean

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Speaker 1: by that is, let's say you're at work, but you're

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Speaker 1: thinking about vacation. Then when you're on vacation, you're going

475
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Speaker 1: to be thinking about work because you've trained your mind

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Speaker 1: to not be present. And that's why even when we're

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Speaker 1: with our kids or our family or the people we love,

478
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Speaker 1: we're stressing about other stuff because we've trained ourselves to

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Speaker 1: not be where we are. And so what I would

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Speaker 1: say in that situation, of course, it's different for people

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Speaker 1: with different jobs, and I work with healthcare professionals and nurses,

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Speaker 1: and I work with people who I believe have some

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Speaker 1: of the most difficult jobs on the planet. There was

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Speaker 1: an incredible reset study that was done by Yale where

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Speaker 1: they tried to discover what they believed was the most

486
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Speaker 1: difficult job in the world, and they discovered that it

487
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Speaker 1: was hospital nurses and sorry, hardened, that was hospital cleaners. Sorry,

488
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Speaker 1: hospital cleaners. Hospital cleaners had the most difficult Definitely not rappers.

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe maybe I don't know, you know better

490
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Speaker 1: than me, but hospital cleaners had the most difficult job

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Speaker 1: in the world because they clean up toilets, bathrooms, plates, beds,

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Speaker 1: they clean up after people pass away. So they yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So they went and interviewed hospital cleaners, and some of

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Speaker 1: the hospital cleaners described their job like that. They said

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Speaker 1: it was toff, it was hard, it was dirty, they filthy,

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Speaker 1: and they said, we're cleaners, that's all. We are low

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Speaker 1: skilled labor in their own words. And then they interviewed

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Speaker 1: another set of cleaners, and when they asked themselves to

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Speaker 1: describe themselves in one word, they said, healers. These cleaners

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Speaker 1: worked in the same jobs as the other cleaners, but

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Speaker 1: some sort themselves as cleaners and some sort themselves as healers,

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Speaker 1: and when they ask them why, the cleaners said, we

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Speaker 1: believe that we create a clean environment where patients can

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Speaker 1: feel better. We know that if we create a beautiful room,

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Speaker 1: their family will want to spend time with them. We

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Speaker 1: see ourselves as integral to their healing journey. They did

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Speaker 1: the same job, they clean the same toilets, but they

508
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Speaker 1: saw it differently. They said a different intention. And Wayne

509
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Speaker 1: Dyer said that when you change the way you look

510
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Speaker 1: at things, things you look at change. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: rest in peace, Wen Dyer, And that beautiful principle is

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Speaker 1: exemplified by these cleaners. No one better than them to

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Speaker 1: teach us how to be. So you know, they could

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Speaker 1: be sitting there going I don't want to be here,

515
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Speaker 1: but they're going, well, actually, even this job helps me

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Speaker 1: impact someone's life. And I think that's the part that

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Speaker 1: if we look beyond our laptops, our screens, our phones,

518
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Speaker 1: and we look up and we go, how does my

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Speaker 1: job actually help someone's life? That's what helps us find

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Speaker 1: some meaning in that job. I feel like we skipped

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Speaker 1: a step right. Yeah, you went from being a monk

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Speaker 1: sir for a monk for three years. You couldn't find

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Speaker 1: a job. He said, you got rejected about forty different

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Speaker 1: forty companies. Yeah, at what point did the On Purpose

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Speaker 1: podcast start? Between that? In So I left being a

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Speaker 1: monk in twenty thirteen. I started in twenty ten On

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Speaker 1: Purpose lawns in twenty nineteen, okay, so six years later,

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Speaker 1: and my online video content started in twenty sixteen. So

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, after I'd been sharing meditation and mindfulness

530
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Speaker 1: with corporations, coaching people behind the scenes and never made

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Speaker 1: any content, I just felt that I was sitting in

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Speaker 1: a lot of boardrooms, which was fantastic, but I felt

533
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Speaker 1: this message had to get further than the boardroom, and

534
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Speaker 1: at the time, I was thinking how do I do this?

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Speaker 1: And so I was applying to media companies that I

536
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Speaker 1: was like, Hey, if these guys give me a job,

537
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Speaker 1: then I can make content about mindfulness and meditation. And

538
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Speaker 1: I was rejected from three media companies. I remember chasing

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Speaker 1: an exact on his bike in London and you're too

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Speaker 1: old that I guess it was the president or CEO

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00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: asked you to do that, correct, So that's when you

542
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: felt like that what was your calling? Yeah? Because I

543
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: was like, wow, I'm being asked to do this. It's working,

544
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: but it needs to reach more people, and it needs

545
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: to reach more people without just their organization being involved.

546
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Speaker 1: What if it could read the person on this street right,

547
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Speaker 1: how do you get to that person? And so I

548
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Speaker 1: thought media is the way. And so I was applying

549
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Speaker 1: to all these media jobs, but everyone kept telling me

550
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Speaker 1: you're not you're too you're too old. I was twenty

551
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Speaker 1: eight years old. The're like, you're too old. Everyone's twenty

552
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: one who wants this job. They were like, you don't

553
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Speaker 1: have any background in media, You've never been in communications.

554
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Speaker 1: And so I ended up at a TV training day

555
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Speaker 1: run by the BBC in London in Pinewood Studios and

556
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 1: it was run for ethnic minorities. So they were just

557
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: six brown and black people in that room and I'm

558
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Speaker 1: one of them, and they tell me, Jay, you're good,

559
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Speaker 1: like you're engaging, you can present well. So I'm like,

560
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Speaker 1: give me a job, like I just want to shot.

561
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: And they're like, Jay, there's no jobs in media. And

562
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: so I'm like, come on, you brought me all the

563
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Speaker 1: way here, like, you know, six brown and black people

564
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Speaker 1: to tell us there's no jobs in media. What was

565
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: what was the point of this? And They're like, well,

566
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 1: you should start a YouTube channel. And in my head,

567
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, yeah, that works for Justin Bieber. That's not

568
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Speaker 1: going to work for me, you know. And I'm having

569
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Speaker 1: that limiting a boy. I was about thank you, maybe not,

570
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: maybe not yeah, and that uh and literally it was

571
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Speaker 1: like I was like, maybe that worked for Justin Bieber,

572
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: like that's and I had that limiting belief. I was like,

573
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Speaker 1: that's not going to work for me. But literally, there's

574
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Speaker 1: a beautiful statement by Thomas Edison. He said, when you

575
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Speaker 1: believe you've exhausted all options, remember this you haven't. And

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Speaker 1: that's how I felt. I felt I had exhausted all

577
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Speaker 1: options and the only option I had left was YouTube

578
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: if I really cared about this, So I made a

579
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Speaker 1: video and I kept making videos every week and they're

580
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Speaker 1: doing okay, they're getting like a thousand views or something

581
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: like that. And in three months, Arianna Huffington saw my

582
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: videos from the huffing In Post and so she really

583
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: connected with them, and they said, hey, j look, we're

584
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Speaker 1: not gonna pay you anything, We're not gonna do anything.

585
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna take your videos. We're gonna put them on

586
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Speaker 1: the huffing In Post. Page because we like your content.

587
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: What do you think. I'm like, great, let's get them

588
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: out there right, Like, that's what this is about. Smart

589
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: you recognized the opportunity when it wasn't a paycheck at Yeah, yeah,

590
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: there was no pay check attacks nobody they put it out.

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00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: The first video did a million views in a week,

592
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: the second video did a million views in twenty four hours,

593
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: and those three or four videos I made for them

594
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: did like a hundred million views across that year. Wow.

595
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Speaker 1: And literally it just changed everything because now the message

596
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: was reaching people. And then I sent her right hand

597
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: man who's a good friend of mine now, Danny Say.

598
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: He was the one who'd come out to make this

599
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: contact happen. I messaged him every day saying, when are

600
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: you giving me a job? When he gave me a job,

601
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: when are you giving me a job? Finally, after thirty days,

602
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: he sent me a visa, sent me a job off

603
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: for a move to New York City in twenty sixteen

604
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Speaker 1: September to work at the HUF Post as a senior

605
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: hosting producer. That lasted around six months. I mean, the

606
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: way you're speaking is great because it's not even about

607
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: the meditation of what you're speaking, it's just about a

608
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: lot of people don't have their drive. You were told

609
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: no a thousands of turns, but still did it. You know,

610
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Speaker 1: you did something that you had no idea about YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Then when they came with a situation most people now

612
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: I would be like, well, how much am I getting paid? Now?

613
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: You want to use my contact? How much? And he

614
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: was like, nah, I understand what this could be and congratulately.

615
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: I love I love stories like that. Thank you, thank

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00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: you for highlighting that. I really appreciate the way you're

617
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: looking at it over time, like yeah, come up here

618
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: and be like how much I'm getting paid? But I'm

619
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Speaker 1: not doing this because I ain't get no money if

620
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: the test. But something's ain't about the money. We came

621
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: from a place where we both worked for a long

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00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: terms about the opportunity. Yeah we knew hopefully, well we

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Speaker 1: didn't even know. We did it for love. I did

624
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: it for love, saying for love, and it just grew

625
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: into what it grew into. So I really respect and

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00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Thank you for highlighting that, because I think

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00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: sometimes you know, we get lost in, especially when people

628
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: talk to me, we get lost in like the meditation

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Speaker 1: and the mindfulness and it's like that is my heart

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Speaker 1: of what I want to share. But the way I've

631
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: got there has not been normal or easy or you know,

632
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: it's but that's been the most fun part about it.

633
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: Like I think I always wanted to serve. My whole

634
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,959
Speaker 1: goal was how can this reach more people? And when

635
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: half Post or anyone came with that opportunity, and thankfully

636
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: after six months, I built in myself. So I went

637
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: off built my own channels twenty nineteen and we launched

638
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: on purpose and in the beginning we can book anyone again.

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Speaker 1: So by the way, I'll tell you when we launched

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Speaker 1: the podcast, everyone said this to me, and this is

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Speaker 1: why what you're saying has helped me go in this direction.

642
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,719
Speaker 1: When I wanted to launch a podcast, we had like

643
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: billions of views on Facebook and YouTube, millions of views

644
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: on YouTube, billions on Facebook. I had a video that

645
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: did three hundred ninety seven million views on Facebook, something

646
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: ridiculous like that. And I wanted to launch a podcast,

647
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: and everyone said to me, Jay, you're interesting for four

648
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: minutes and a four minute YouTube and Facebook video, no

649
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: one wants to listen to you for over four minutes.

650
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Speaker 1: That was the feedback cover. So I was meeting all

651
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: the podcast companies. We had one podcast company that was

652
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: about to sign me, and I thought it was all done.

653
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: I went away for Christmas. I came back two weeks after.

654
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: They had a new exec, a big podcast company. He

655
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: came in and he goes, JA, I don't think this

656
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: can be a big show. And so they pulled out

657
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: two weeks before it launched, and I'd already invested all

658
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: this money recording the episodes, videoing it. We've been traveling

659
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: to get guests, and I was interviewing friends or people

660
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: that I knew at the time, and we couldn't book

661
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: anyone either. I remember I was getting rejected left ran center.

662
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: That's what when you said yes, I was so grateful

663
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: we couldn't book anyone at the time. And now when

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Speaker 1: I see what's happened, I'm like, I'm so glad that

665
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 1: that company pulled out. I'm so grateful to them. Actually,

666
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm so blessed that they pulled out because I got

667
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: to do it my way, on my own, and I

668
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: got to build it on my Who was your first

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Speaker 1: big guest? My first big guest was Russell Brand, who

670
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Speaker 1: I've known for a long time. We have the same

671
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: meditation teacher. We've been friends in London for a while.

672
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Speaker 1: So Russell Brown was my first big guest. My first

673
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Speaker 1: ever guest was my wife was my first episode. Well

674
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Speaker 1: she was your first big guest. Yeah, that was my

675
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Speaker 1: first yeah, oh yeah, thank you. Yeah I messed it up. Yeah,

676
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: I messed that up. Yeah, my wife was my first

677
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: big Yeah. Russell Brown was my first well known guest.

678
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Speaker 1: Novak Djokovic tennis player who I've known for a while

679
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: as well. He was one of my first big guests.

680
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Speaker 1: And then, you know, since then, it's just been a

681
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: joy to sit down with people that ryan. Yeah, I

682
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: till this day, and I'm not just saying it because

683
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: of what happened, and I don't I wish I didn't

684
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Speaker 1: even have to say that, but I do because I

685
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: think people try and make things a certain way. But

686
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: I have never felt someone more present and grounded in

687
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: his feet apart from monks, than Kobe Bryant. Like when

688
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: I spoke to him, I choose there was so much

689
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: gravity around him, and when he spoke his voice as well,

690
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: it had so much presence. And that was two three

691
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: months before the tragic event. How did you speak to him?

692
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: How did that connection happen? So his team had reached

693
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: out and they said, Jay, we want Kobe to have

694
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Speaker 1: a conversation with someone who isn't only obsessed with basketball.

695
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: And I said to him, I liked basketball, but I

696
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: didn't grow up like soccer is my first sport, right football.

697
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Speaker 1: I'm from England, that's that's my thing for you. Yeah, yeah,

698
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: yeah forever. Yeah, that's why to translate for because then

699
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: my British friends make fun of me for saying soccer,

700
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: so I've got to you know, but yeah, Christiano Ronaldo, like,

701
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: that's that's my goat, right, That's the person I go to.

702
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: But obviously I have so much respect for Kobe. Obviously

703
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: I love I love basketball, genuine enjoy watching it. And

704
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: so they said, but we want someone who talks to

705
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: him about storytelling about him, about his heart, about meditation,

706
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: about the stuff that he doesn't get to talk about

707
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: because every time he goes to an interview, people just

708
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: to ask him basketball questions. What would he like to

709
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: play in that game? What was it like to learn

710
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: from this? So they they've reached out to him, and

711
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: I said, this is a dream, like I feel honored,

712
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: and so we did that. That's how the podcast came about.

713
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't know him or I didn't have

714
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: a relationship with him, but in that short time that

715
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: we spent together, he walked into the room and he

716
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: came around to my whole team and he introduced him

717
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: Kobe Kobe like to my video, and you know, everyone's

718
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: geeking out because everyone knows who he is. It doesn't

719
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: have to explain. But he was so respectful, so wonderful

720
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: with the whole team. They'll never forget that experience. And

721
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Speaker 1: you know, you're Will Smith and Jada Pinker Smith, You're

722
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: very Yeah. So Will and Jada are super close friends.

723
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: Consider them family that you know, beautiful people who've given

724
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: me and my wife family in LA. To be quite honest,

725
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: like we feel kind of adopted by them. I've been

726
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: able to celebrate Thanksgiving with them many times. That all

727
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: happened because I was asked by Facebook to host the

728
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: launch of Red Table Talk season two, and that's where

729
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: I got to meet Jada, Willow and Cammy and I

730
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: got to interview them, and Jada and I had this

731
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: really interesting conversation backstage. I don't think i've ever talked

732
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: about this before, but we were talking and she was

733
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: asking me curious questions. She said to me, what did

734
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: you learn as a monk? Like that's what you asked me,

735
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: kind of like you did. And I was telling her like,

736
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: I learned, you know, meditation this scan and I could

737
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: see that she you know, she was she was intrigued

738
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: and curious, and something inspired me to go a bit deeper,

739
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: and I said, I learned how to talk to God,

740
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: like we learned how to pray to God. And when

741
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: I said that to her, she said, I want to

742
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: learn how to do that, like I would love to

743
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: learn how to do that. And that's where our relationship began.

744
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: It began from both of us having this enthusiasm, and

745
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: then I got to understand, like they both have been

746
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: studying world religions every year of their marriage together. They're

747
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: deeply thoughtful, intelligent human beings, and so that relationship has

748
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: just been one of the greatest gifts and blessings of

749
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: my life. And it all started from a God centered

750
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: intention place. Again, like, none of this started from you know.

751
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting when people see pictures or

752
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: see things they think, oh, yeah, that's just like it's

753
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: a famous connection or it's this, and I'm like, well, actually,

754
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: I'd say nine nine percent of my relationships have started

755
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: from a god meditation, spiritual place, because that's what I'm

756
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: trying to put out in the world. I was gonna

757
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: ask you when people meditate? Right back to meditation, Yeah,

758
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: how long should somebody meditate? I really believe that it's

759
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: about starting with the amount of time that you can

760
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: And I said seven minutes for the daily jay because

761
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: most of our daily activities take around seven minutes, like

762
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: I said, doing the laundry, washing the dishes, making our bed.

763
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: I think five to ten minutes is a healthy amount

764
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: of time to start with. But hey, if you can

765
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: start with sixty seconds, start with that. It's like being

766
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: on the treadmill. It's like saying, how long can you

767
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: be on the treadmill for now? Tom Brady can be

768
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: on the treadmill for a lot longer than I can.

769
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: But he's been practicing for a lot longer than I can.

770
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: And so it's like if he gets on the treadmill,

771
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: if you can do one minute today, do one minute today,

772
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: but commit to one minute for one month. Next month,

773
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: commit to five minutes for one month, right, Like that's

774
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: the point. And so I would say we started the

775
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: daily jet seven minutes because I think it's a sweet

776
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: spot that's doable. That's that's actually some of my favorite

777
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: time to do it, Like right when I get off

778
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: the elliptical machine, you know what I mean. And you

779
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: know sometimes you just sit down, because you like when

780
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: you just sit down and you just turn off the

781
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: music and just I count my beads right there because

782
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: you're catching your breath as well, and for some reason,

783
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: it just really helps you to me right after you

784
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: right after you work out. I love that you brought

785
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: up the beads because that's how we were training as

786
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: monks too, beads. And the reason was because all your

787
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: senses have to be engaged. So when you when your

788
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: hands are engaged, your mouth is engaged because you're saying

789
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: the montra, your ears are engaged because you're hearing the mantra.

790
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: And so when all of your senses are engaged, you're

791
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: actually present. And so if you want to be present anywhere,

792
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: if you engage all your senses, you're more likely to

793
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: actually be there. And that's why the beads work like magic.

794
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: At you did you ever do any therapy. I have

795
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: seen therapists, I've worked with coaches. I've never done consistent therapy,

796
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: but I'm a huge proponent and fan of it. I've

797
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: seen it help my clients. So I'm a coach. I

798
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: work with clients, and all of my clients have a

799
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: therapist as well. And I always believe it's two people

800
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: you need in your life. So I really believe that

801
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: therapy helps you untangle your past and coaching helps you

802
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: build your future. And so I really believed in both

803
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: of those in our lives. And so yeah, I've seen therapists.

804
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: I've had phenomenal conversations with them. I've seen them spot

805
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: patterns for me and others in their lives too. And

806
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: I know you've I mean we talked about this when

807
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: you came on the show so much. Yeah, big fan

808
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: of therapy. Therapy is the gateway drug to me, yea

809
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: to me, I mean some people. We had an Nay

810
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: chapter up here, and he started his healing journey through meditation. Yes,

811
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: I started mind through therapy and then got into you

812
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: know everything else. You know, what thing I like about you,

813
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: Jay is that you never seem to scare away from

814
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: your purpose like as big as your name gets, as

815
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: big as your profile gets, it's always about what your

816
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: purpose is. Like you're here to help people heal, and

817
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: you never scare away from that. That's very kind, man.

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00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: I think I think that says a lot about you

819
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: more than me, because you notice that, And I think

820
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: because you notice that, that says a lot about you. Genuinely.

821
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: I mean that because not everyone's going to see that,

822
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: And that's partly what I've understood on this journey is

823
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: that you're the only person who's going to know your intention.

824
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: People outside, not everyone's going to know your intention. And

825
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: that's okay because as long as you know what your

826
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: intention is, that's what you're living for. And when you die,

827
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna die knowing I did it for that reason,

828
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: and as long as you're cool with that, I think

829
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: that's That's been the biggest lesson with everything changing. I

830
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: think when I started, I really believe that everyone would

831
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: see that I was trying to help and I was

832
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: trying to serve. And as things grow, I realized not

833
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: everyone's going to feel that way, and that's okay because

834
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: the only person has to feel that way is me

835
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: and the people that know and love me deeply and

836
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: the people that I speak to and see every week,

837
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: and hearing it from you is I'm full of gratitude

838
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: hearing it from you. It means the world. Honestly, what

839
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: is the balance with social media? Because clearly the digital

840
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: world has helped, yeah, what you do tremendously, but also

841
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: the digital world is impacts our mental health in a

842
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: very very very negative way. So what's the balance? You

843
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: know what? It's so challenging because if technology didn't exist

844
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: and it wasn't going to keep growing, it would be

845
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: easy for us to say, look, let's live a technology

846
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: free life. Let's all just meditate, focus, be present. But

847
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: the truth is technology is already accelerating, and to sit

848
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: here and work against it, I think it's too late.

849
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: It's already moving too fast and it's gone too far.

850
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: So my take is, how can we be in those

851
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: places and give people alternatives to what they do on

852
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: that technology. That's all you can do, right, You can

853
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: give people a choice, and I think with the work

854
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: you do, with the work I'm trying to do with

855
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: what you all do here, is giving people a choice

856
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: of what else can you listen to? So the fact

857
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: that someone can listen to on purpose instead of watching

858
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: something or hearing something that may not be great for

859
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 1: their mindset. That's all I can do is give people

860
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: a choice. And so to me, I use social media

861
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: as a creator and as a sharer. I consume it

862
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: only to see what my friends are up to and

863
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: support them. I don't really use it for anything else

864
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: other than that, So I limit my time on social media,

865
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: especially in the morning in the evening. I've been avoiding

866
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: looking at my phone in the morning first thing for years,

867
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: because I think that's your most precious time. You get

868
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: to set your day up in that thirty seconds you're awake.

869
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: And if you let in the news, the notifications, the negativity,

870
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: the noise, you're drowning already and now you're trying to swim.

871
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: You're letting somebody else at your intention. Yeah, absolutely, and

872
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: you're drowning. You're already at the bottom of the ladder again.

873
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: But if you can start that. So for me, it's

874
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: as a creator, I have to recognize it's a tool,

875
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: it's a platform. I have to use it wisely to

876
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: help give people a choice. But yeah, if you know,

877
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: if people don't want to use it, when when I

878
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: hear people are not on social media and they don't

879
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: want to use it. I'm like, that's great, you know,

880
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 1: power to you. What are some what are some everyday

881
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: practices you think people can use to improve their mental health,

882
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: Like it's regular everyday things. Yeah, paying for therapy or

883
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: any like everyday thing. Yeah. So I would say there's

884
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: there's five habits and they're rule free and so. And

885
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: it comes in the form I like to put things

886
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: in memorable ways. So it comes in the form of

887
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: an acronym called times. T I M E S so

888
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: T is thankfulness. I am so addicted to thankfulness and gratitude.

889
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: And even though I am I realized very recently I

890
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: just told you this whole story, right, I told you

891
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: the whole story of everything that happened. Recently, I realized

892
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: that I forgot the person who got me my first

893
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: job after being a monk, after those forty rejections, and

894
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: I realized I've never talked about him because he's not

895
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: well known. No one would know his name. His name

896
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: is Ravi Khan. No one knows that, no one knows him.

897
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: And I remember when I was struggling to find a job,

898
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: I realized he went to the same university as me,

899
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: and so my message them and said, hey, man, i've

900
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: been out there work for a while three years, monk, etc.

901
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: Like can you help me get a job? And he

902
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: gave me the introduction to the company that I went

903
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: to work for. And I realized very recently that I

904
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: say gratitude all the time and thankfulness, but I forgot

905
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: him because he's not a big he's not a big

906
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: part of my journey, which is not true. He's a

907
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: massive part of my journey. So I sent him a

908
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: message recently just to thank him, and to me, that

909
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: was such an important thing because I was like, how

910
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: many people do we forget that the in between people

911
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: so thankfulness And the way you do this is for

912
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: the next seven days, text, voice note, email message one

913
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: person every day. It takes thirty seconds. But here's the

914
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: way to make thankfulness work. It has to be specific

915
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: and it has to be personalized. If Charlemagne a second

916
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: ago just said to me, Jay, I think it's really cool, right.

917
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: If that's all he said to me, that's quite generic

918
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't know what to do with that. And

919
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: he may have just said that after cuff, but when

920
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: he actually said like, Jay, I really appreciate you stick

921
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: to your purpose despite all that was so specific that

922
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: it really touched my heart. And so if you're going

923
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: to share gratitude with someone, has to be specific, has

924
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: to be personalized. Can't you just say, oh, you're a

925
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: great person Like that doesn't help. Second thing I is

926
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: for inspiration. Start your day with the thought that inspires you.

927
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: It could be a quote next to your bed for me.

928
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: At one point, I listened to Steve Jobs's Stanford commencement

929
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: speech every day for nine months. There's nine months. I

930
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: was depressed. Nineteen months. I listened to it every day,

931
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: and I promise you that speech will change your life.

932
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 1: I just interviewed Matthew McConaughey on the podcast. I told

933
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: him for thirty days, I listened to his Oscar speech

934
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: every day when he won the Oscar for Dallas Bye Club.

935
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: It's five minutes long that speech. Listen to it every

936
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: day for thirty days. It was so powerful free. That's

937
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: when he said that line that everybody says. Kevin Hart said, well,

938
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: the line, oh, I can't remember right now. It's it's

939
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: the one where he talks about like he's like, I'm

940
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: inspired by the person I want to be like, it's

941
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: it's yeah, and so that was beautiful and then so

942
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: those are free inspiration. So read a quote, put a

943
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: little prayer in next to your bed in the morning,

944
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: on a post it note that wake up to that

945
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: third one M meditation. We talked about a lot. The

946
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: daily J seven minutes E is for exercise. We have

947
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: to move. We have to have to move. It can

948
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: be ten thousand steps, it can be a virtual workout,

949
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: can be a dance party. Have to move in some way.

950
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: We have to sweat every day. And S is for sleep.

951
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: I just feel that if we did these five things

952
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: and especially sleep out all of them. I choose sleep.

953
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: If you can just do one thing is solve your sleep.

954
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: If we can just sleep well, and the best way

955
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: to do it is the human growth hormone HGH is

956
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: most active between ten pm and midnight, the hours before midnight.

957
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: So the more hours we sleep before midnight, the more

958
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: quality our sleep. So if you sleep six hours after

959
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: midnight twelve to six, it's different if you slept ten

960
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: to four. And that's what you want to move to

961
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: is try and get a couple of hours in before

962
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: midnight will change your life. So tims, thankfulness, inspiration, meditation, exercise, sleep, Jay,

963
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: we appreciate. I was going to ask, but I mean,

964
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: after speaking to you, realize what it is. I was

965
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: going to ask. When you first got here, I was like, wow.

966
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: You know sometimes when we have a preacher or reverend

967
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: him here, we say, okay, can you give us a prayer?

968
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: Or we have a funny until the best we say,

969
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: you know, give the people some advice. Or I was

970
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: going to ask you can we meditate, but we really

971
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: can't because we need more seven. I mean it will

972
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: be deadier for seven minutes. Oh we can do it

973
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: for less and seven we can do it. Hey, yeah

974
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 1: we can. How long do you give me your time limit?

975
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: And then I'll stick to that. Thirty seconds? Thirty seconds

976
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: a minute, Let's do a minute. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah,

977
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: let's do a minute. Okay, let's do it. And everyone

978
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: who's listening can join in as well. So what I

979
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: want to get through thirty seconds were good? Okay? So

980
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: what do I want ever want to do is just

981
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: take a moment to look around wherever they are. So

982
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: keep your eyes open and I want you to just

983
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: notice five things in this space. Choose five things in

984
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 1: your environment and bring your awareness to them. The colors,

985
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: the textures, the fonts, whatever it may be. Just five things,

986
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: and when you found them, close your eyes. Taking a

987
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: deep breath. Now, what are four things that you can

988
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: touch and just be present with it. It It could be

989
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: your jacket, the chair you're sitting on, your own hands.

990
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: Four things that you can touch. No, it's the difference

991
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: in the coolness and the texture. Taking another deep breath.

992
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: What are three things that you can hear there? Maybe

993
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: some white noise, the sound of my voice, maybe even

994
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: a voice in the back of your head. Three things

995
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: you can hear, Just observe and be present, don't fight them.

996
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: Just bring your awareness back to your breath. Breathe in.

997
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 1: What are two things you can smell? Maybe the beautiful

998
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: sage that we have here in the studio of the Palasanta.

999
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: Maybe a fragrance it diffuses some food. Taking a deep breath,

1000
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: and what's one thing you can taste? And be water? Breakfast. Now,

1001
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: in a moment, when you gently and softly, in your

1002
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 1: own time, at your own pace, you open your eyes,

1003
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: you'll experience full presence. Can open your eyes, all right,

1004
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, man, I love to sound a white noise.

1005
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: I love the things you see behind your eyelids. And

1006
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: I've been stressing to I Heeart that we need a

1007
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: mindfulness minute on all radio stations, like we need whether

1008
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: it's J could be Jay, it could be Debbie Brown.

1009
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: We need a mindful this minute, like a few times

1010
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: throughout the day, especially during like the ten am the

1011
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: two pm slot when it's mid days and people at work.

1012
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: Every now and then, you just got to take a break,

1013
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: like we got to do exactly what we did just now.

1014
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: So when we call you, J, answer the thank you

1015
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: for the opportunity. Thank you guys, Thank you. Someone go

1016
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: get Ja Schetty's book, Think like a monk Um, subscribe

1017
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: to the Um on Purpose podcast with Jay Chetty, and

1018
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: check out the appcom one of my favorite people to

1019
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: just follow and continue to be a great leader, Jack,

1020
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: Thank you man, Thank you so so grateful than Jetty,

1021
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Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,