1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: Wow, what is up? Welcome to another edition of the 2 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's me and your man, MG 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: Marcus Grant. Still masking and socially distance, but partially you're vaccinated. 4 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm excited. I got my shot last week. Yeah, it's 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: good news. UM got a big show, of course, I 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: got all this. I got all you know, sidetrack and 7 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: derailed thinking about the you know what's going on in 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: the last week. But big show for you, of course. 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: We are joined by producer Steve Matt Okata is back 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: as we continue our pre draft preview. This is a 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: big one. This is part one of two of wide receivers. 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: We've already done quarterbacks and tight ends. We did running 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: backs last week. Uh so wide receivers. So Matt, this 14 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: is this is your wheelhouse here, so that you know 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: we we when we talked about doing this, we talked 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: about doing this is a two part thing, in part 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: because wide receiver is very deep. In part because this 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: is especially what you're too. So I would imagine this 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: is this is the week you have been really waiting for. 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: I would imagine it is. Yeah. I'm always get excited 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: about talking lde receivers. I get excited about watching wide receivers. 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: I get excited about where they go, where they get drafted. 23 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: It is going to be fun this year for sure, 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: and these two weeks are gonna be fun. And for 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: anyone thinking that, you know, we get through all the 26 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: good guys this week and next week's episode is not 27 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: as great, that's pretty backwards because the death and the 28 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: exciting guys in the second group are even maybe more interesting. 29 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be fun. Yeah, I was trying to 30 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: figure out how we could best split this up, and 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: just you know, the quick overview. My my idea was 32 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 1: for this week to talk about the guys who could 33 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: go you know, possibly first round, in the early second 34 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: round at the latest. So we've got, you know, your 35 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: top guys, your elite group, and then there's a handful 36 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: of guys below them. Uh, not all of whom may 37 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: end up in the first round, but some of these 38 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: guys you would expect to be off the board, probably 39 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: fairly early in the second day. So we're gonna do 40 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: that today. Next week we'll get through a handful of 41 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: the guys, which, as you mentioned, the depth of this 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: class is amazing. So next week we'll talk about some 43 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: guys who will probably be you know, second day, maybe 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: even the third day, but guys who potentially could make 45 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: an impact fantasy wise. Uh, certainly this year in re 46 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: draft draft leagues, but definitely uh in dynasty league. So 47 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: we will certainly get to that UM as well. UH. 48 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: Quick note, but before we dive into that, Alex Smith 49 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: has decided to retire from the National Football League after UM, 50 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: what has been maybe one of the more remarkable career, 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: certainly in my lifetime. A guy who was a number 52 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: one overall pick really struggled early in his career to 53 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: to live up to that billing. Then sort of had 54 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: a mid career resurgence, if you will, had a great 55 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: year two in San Francisco before going to Kansas City 56 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: really sort of taking off. I think that's when his 57 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: career really took off. As with the Chiefs obviously that 58 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: had the horrible leg injury in Washington before coming back 59 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: to play uh and no surprise winning comeback Player of 60 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: the Year. But um, you know, Matt, it was not 61 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: maybe the career that people had expected for Alex Smith 62 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: coming out of Utah, but it was all said and done. Uh. 63 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: He even up having a really good, really successful like 64 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 1: I said, really just remarkable career all all told. Yeah, 65 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: I would say, like solid, very solid. You know, a 66 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: likable guy going out, winning comeback Player of the Year 67 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: is pretty great. He's not probably gonna be a Hall 68 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: of Famer, He's not gonna be anyone that anyone talks 69 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: about is one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. 70 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: But he won a lot of games. He made a 71 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: bunch of Pro Bowls, He had some really strong seasons. 72 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: That last season with the Chiefs was very very good 73 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: even for fantasy that year, which he wasn't really for 74 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: most of his career. But yeah, really really solid career overall. Yeah, absolutely, 75 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: so best of luck to him in retirement. Very curious 76 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: to see what is next for Alex Smith, if he 77 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: stays around the game, if he decides to, uh you know, 78 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: kind of maybe step back a little bit. Just wild 79 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: um and not that it's a usual when you see 80 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: top level pros to know that they've played with other 81 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: great football players in their life, But I go back 82 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: to the fact that Alex Smith and Reggie Bush were 83 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: in the same backfield in high school. Uh down, he 84 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: looks high down in the San Diego area, So you 85 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: had Alex Smith. He drafted number one overall. You had 86 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush got number two overall. Um, that's pretty good 87 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: for high school back All right, Um, what's the all 88 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: the quick thing I've mentioned? I got? I got a vaccination. 89 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw did you see the 90 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch Anthony Faucci interview that was circulating around did in? 91 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: But I can already tell I need to. Yeah, I 92 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: mean it's amazing. I haven't watched the whole thing yet, 93 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: I've watched a good portion of it. It's it's about 94 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: half an hour and it is Marshawn Lynch sort of 95 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: talking to to Dr Faucci about, you know, vaccination and 96 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: whether or not people should and I mean, yeah, done 97 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: in a way that only Marshawn Lynch could do. It's amazing. 98 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: Right off the back he calls him Dr Faucchiesi, which 99 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: I think should be his official nickname from that. Yeah. 100 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: So if you have it, uh, I'm pretty sure it's 101 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: on YouTube. I'm sure you can search Twitter and find 102 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: it as well. But it is it's worth the time. 103 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back and try to finish the last 104 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: half of it that I didn't get to watch. But yeah, 105 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: Beast Mode and Dr FOUCCHIESI talking vaccination. Check it out. 106 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: It's worth your talk. All right, let's talk some wide 107 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: receivers here, because this is what we came to do today. UM. So, 108 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, we talked at the beginning about how you 109 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: sort of got involved and interested in doing scouting and 110 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: this sort of thing. Um, you mentioned that you took 111 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: a course specifically though on scouting wide receivers. What was 112 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: it about this position that sort of really drew your focus? Uh, 113 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: there's a few things. Really. It was so when I 114 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: when I did this, I UM enrolled in this academy 115 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: and they have positional modules, so you start off the 116 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: first three months, you pack a position. You're going to 117 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: go through that. And I kind of felt like I 118 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,559 Speaker 1: wanted to go with a fantasy relevant position because while 119 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to scout everything at the time, 120 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: and I was even potentially considering sort of a GM 121 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: type track for a career, UM, I was still in 122 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: the fantasy space. I was. I had my podcast, and 123 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,559 Speaker 1: I wanted to be able to, you know, be better 124 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: at that aspect of what I was doing. And so 125 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: it was between running backs and wide receivers more or less, 126 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: and I showed receivers for a couple of reasons. One, 127 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: I think they're more difficult to scout naturally than running backs. 128 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot more nuance of the position. Um coverage 129 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: and stuff like that is a big factor, and it's 130 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: a little more involved in the running back position. And 131 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: then I honestly think they're more interesting to watch than 132 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: running backs. I think watching a wide receiver, especially since 133 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 1: a lot of the times when you're watching a game, 134 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: you're not watching a wide receiver. You're usually watching the 135 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: ball or the standard fan is watching the ball. And 136 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: for a running back, you know the quarterback hands the 137 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: ball off after taking two steps back, and then you're 138 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: watching him in media. The receiver, most of what he 139 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: does you're not watching. Most of how he succeeds in 140 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: what he does that makes an NFL superstar, you're not watching. Obviously, 141 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: you get your great catches like the Odell catch at 142 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: the end of the play, then you realize, oh my goodness, 143 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: that's incredible. But most of what a wide receiver does 144 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: on a play is off screen or just out of 145 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: out of sight, out of mind. So a lot of 146 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: that made it really interesting to me, So I started 147 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: off with that it's funny you say that too, because 148 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: when I had Matt Harmon on a few weeks ago, 149 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: and obviously he does a lot of wide receiver stuff 150 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: as well, one of the things he said which you 151 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: sort of touched on, is that when you were watching 152 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: a game as a fan, and we're you just watching 153 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: a regular broadcast of the game, the receiver's run off 154 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: the screen. You see them line up, the play starts, 155 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: they run off the screen, and generally you don't know 156 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: what they're doing. You get a sense like if if 157 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: they get a target, um, you can kind of get 158 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: some sense of you know, where they open, how open 159 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: were they would have you, but you generally don't know, 160 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: which you know for a wide receiver, and allows you 161 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: the leeway to tell somebody that you were always open 162 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: and they just didn't see it. Um. But I do 163 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: think there's something to that that there are so much 164 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: of that that goes into playing that position that we 165 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: just you know, unless you have access to all twenty 166 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: two or something like that, uh, you just don't see it. 167 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: And so I think it's it's interesting and I think 168 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: especially as we have moved to a game that is 169 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: so much more reliant on passing the football, where wide 170 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: receivers do have a little bit more value because of 171 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, the way the game is played now. So, um, 172 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,119 Speaker 1: I just think it's interesting why people sort of gravitate 173 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: towards anything that they do. Um. So I've asked this 174 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: for all the other positions, I might as well ask 175 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: you for receivers when you are scouting them, what in 176 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: particular are you looking for? So primarily, the the the 177 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: overall mantra of what you're looking for is how that 178 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver wins. In other words, when they're headed down 179 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: field and they're trying to make a play happen, how 180 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: do they succeed at making a play happen? How do 181 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: they win? How do they beat a defender and make 182 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: a play for their team? So more or less, there's 183 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: I would say three key areas, and then there's a 184 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: ton of stuff under them and outside of them and 185 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: offshooting from those. But the three that really stand out 186 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: to me route running, athleticism, and then at the catch 187 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: point what you do at the catchpoint. So route running, 188 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: these are your Keen Analogy and your Stefon Diggs. It 189 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: involves how you release off the line of scrimmage, which 190 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: is an underrated and crucial part of receivers gain things 191 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: like foot quickness and the ability to break in and 192 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: out of your routes suddenly. So that's where you you know, 193 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: when we watch highlights of route running, that's what you 194 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: think of when a guy plants his foot and cut 195 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: suddenly leaves a defender sending on skates. That's that's a 196 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: pretty big part of this UM. The ability to come 197 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: like uh, come back on a on a deeper or 198 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: more vertical route, to stop and come back, that's the 199 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: skill that's of its own UM. Nuancing your route running, 200 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: the ability to misdirect defender a dB with like head fakes, angles, 201 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: what you're doing with your body, stuff like that, and 202 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: then good football i Q in my opinion, falls under 203 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: route running largely the ability to read what the best 204 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: option is, Where is the defender's leverage, where where is 205 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: your ability to change that leverage and gain leverage over him? 206 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: So all that stuff falls under route running. Athleticism is 207 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: pretty simple, straight you know, that's pretty straightforward. That's your 208 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: tireek kills, even your Julio Jones is to a degree, speed, explosiveness, agility, 209 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: jumping um. All that stuff falls under athleticism, and in 210 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: a lot of ways, you can make up for less 211 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: crafty route running with incredible athleticism. And by the way, 212 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: most of these guys I'm naming have some of all 213 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: of these things because they're the best receivers in lead. 214 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: But that's what that's what kind of their bread and 215 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: butter is. And the last thing is just at the 216 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: catch point. So how do they win at the point 217 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: of the catch. You've got your guys like DeAndre Hopkins 218 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: or your Larry FitzGeralds, whose hands and catch radius are 219 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: just so insane that if you put the ball anywhere 220 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: near them, they're probably coming down with it. You've got 221 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: your Kenny Golladays who make contested catches, Mike Evans, guys 222 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: like that, who you're gonna have a defender draped on them, 223 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: they're still gonna come down with the ball. Um, The 224 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: ability to just in the air, body control, uh, toughness, 225 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: and aggressiveness that falls all under this sort of scheme 226 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: or area of receiver's ability. So you take those three 227 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: things with all the things under them, you see how 228 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: and where they win in those things, And then for me, 229 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: you kind of rate along those paths, and that's how 230 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: you get to your your decision on a receiver. Um 231 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: matter for you. Yes, drops do matter a little bit 232 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: and depends on what kind because you've got your drops 233 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: where they're just showing they don't have great hands, and 234 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: that matters. I want my it's useful for a wide 235 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: receiver to have good hands. Write that down. Yeah, yeah, 236 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: so that that definitely does stand out. But I would 237 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: say more often and more concerning is concentration drop issues, 238 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: especially when a receiver is running across the middle. If 239 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: they're being asked to run crossing routes and you see 240 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: them consistently dropping the ball or or fumbling the ball 241 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: a little bit when they are expecting they might get 242 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: hit or when they know they're in traffic, that can 243 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: stand out to me a lot because if you have 244 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: a receiver you're asking to do that and he has 245 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: a weakness that makes that aspect of his game less successful, 246 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: that's going to be a big problem for me. So 247 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: it does matter. Yeah, I asked that because I know 248 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: there's sort of a It's not on the level of 249 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: you know, rbs don't matter, but there's I think a 250 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: budding sort of conversation about that. Um, you know, I 251 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: know some people who firmly believe that they don't matter. 252 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: That as long as as long as the targets are 253 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: coming a player's way, um, that they don't matter. I guess, 254 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: I guess it. I guess the correlay to that is 255 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: that they matter if the targets stopped coming. You know, 256 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: if if you have enough drops that the targets stopped 257 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: coming your way, then drops suddenly matter. But I guess 258 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: as long you know Deonte Johnson, I guess, being a 259 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: good example a guy who sort of has had issues 260 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: with drops in the past. But you know the way 261 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: it stands right now, and that Steel's offense, you know 262 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: he's going to get targets. So in that respect, if 263 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: you're Deontay Johnson, drops don't really matter. Yeah. I mean 264 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: for fantasy, if you have a lot of drops, it 265 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: probably needs. You're getting a lot of targets more or less, 266 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: so it's almost like, Okay, I'm totally fine with the drop. 267 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: Then you've got your DeAndre Hopkins who gets a hundred 268 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: fifty targets and still doesn't drop the ball. That is better. 269 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: But that's a little best. Well, you know, you mentioned 270 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned the Larry Fitzgerald. What is it that he 271 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: has more career tackles than he has drops, which is 272 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: an insane it's insane stat. Uh. That tells you about 273 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: how good his hands have been over his career. Um, 274 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: So this year we talked about how good this wide 275 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: receiver classes. Last year we talked about how good that 276 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: wide receiver classes and how it was, you know, looking 277 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: like an all time wide receiver class. And look, all 278 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: things considered, the guys who were in that class last 279 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: year really sort of lived up to that building. I 280 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: thought last year's class did a great job as rookies. Um, 281 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: how do you compare this year's group to last year's group? Yeah, 282 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: this is really interesting and pretty tough because you're gonna 283 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: always want to make these comparisons. And last year was 284 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: so good both coming into the draft and like you 285 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: pointed out after the season, how they played out was 286 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: pretty impressive. Overall, I think this is at least as 287 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: good a class at the top, and it is definitely deeper. 288 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: So last year my top three were Seedee Lamb, Jerry Judy, 289 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson THO was most people's top three. They all 290 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: played very well certainly they all look like they can 291 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: be wide super ones at some point in their career. 292 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: The elite three of this class match up to those 293 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: three in my opinion, which is a very very tall 294 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: compliment because that trio is so good at the elite 295 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: three of this class who will talk about today, I 296 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: think they match up. And then after that, you know, 297 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: we have we have some really good, like four or 298 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: five guys last year. I you Brandon iu can Tee 299 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: Higgins very very strong. I think they match up two 300 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: receivers in this class that are closer to like the 301 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: seven eight range of best wide receiver in this class. 302 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: And I love Brandon, I believe me. So you're gonna 303 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: get guys in the second round of rookie drafts this year, 304 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: probably mid to late second round that I would have 305 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: taken in the first round, end of the first round 306 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: last year. So death wise, I think this is possibly 307 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: one of the best classes we've ever had. That's that's 308 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: pretty impressive. And you know, I'm very curious to see 309 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: and I don't I don't have an answer to this. 310 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: Maybe you do, as where our wide receiver draft classes 311 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: go over the next few years, right, because as as 312 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: the game becomes more spread out. We see it especially 313 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: at the college level. UM, but it's definitely you know, 314 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: taken hold in the NFL as well. As the game 315 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: becomes more spread out and becomes more vertical, more downfield, UM, 316 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: you know, I think you're gonna see obviously more athletes 317 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: kind of gravitate to the wide receiver position. You know, 318 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: where a generation ago, a lot of your best athletes 319 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: were probably playing running back. I think now you're seeing 320 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: a lot of those guys go to play wide receiver. 321 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: And it just makes me wonder, are we going to 322 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: continue to see this level of depth, uh in wide 323 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: receiver draft classes over the next few years, which, on 324 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: the one hand is great, it's a lot of fun. 325 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: On the other hand, UM, I think it makes it 326 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: harder for some guys to break through. But I feel like, 327 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: I feel like this won't be the last time we 328 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: have this conversation where we're talking about how good a 329 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver draft classes and sort of comparing them to 330 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: draft classes of the past. I feel like this is 331 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: going to start to be the norm when we have 332 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: this conversation every year. But I don't have to feel 333 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: the same way, all right, So let's get down to 334 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: let's start with a big three here. Um, and everybody 335 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: may have a slightly different order. But the three names 336 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: that everybody's talking about at the top of this draft 337 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: class DeVante Smith, Mar Chase and Jalen Waddle. Uh, just 338 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: for curiosity's sake, how do you have those three ranked? 339 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: I believe just how you name them, Smith, Chase, Waddle 340 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: is Yeah, that's my ranking pretty pretty firmly. Yeah, like 341 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: I said, I think, I think, Yeah, I said, those 342 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: are the three. I think maybe the biggest conversation is 343 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: between Smith and Chase as for who's number one. Um, 344 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: But you know whatever, I think those three guys are 345 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: all in the same conversation. So let's let's start with 346 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: Devonte Smith, who had just a phenomenal year last year 347 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: at Alabama wins the Heisman Trophy, which nowadays feels unheard of. 348 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: It feels nearly impossible for a wide receiver. Basically for 349 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: a non quarterback, it feels pretty impossible to win the 350 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy. But de Vonte Smith did it last year 351 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: for the Crimson Tide. Um. Just when I watch him, 352 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: just an incredible technician when it comes to route running. Um, 353 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: I mean a guy who just you know wins, you 354 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: talk about you know, leverage and uh you know football 355 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: i Q and just awareness on the field and what 356 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: he can do to a defensive back. Davante Smith has 357 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: that doubt at an amazing level. The biggest knock on him, 358 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: Matt has been that he is a smaller guy. He 359 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: has a smaller frame. He's not you know, he's not 360 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: Julio Jones, right, Like, nobody's going to compare him or 361 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: confuse him for Julio Jones, DK metcalf type. Um, does 362 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: that concern you at all? Just you know, being able 363 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: to play and survive and succeed at the next level 364 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: as you know, kind of a smaller bodied player. So 365 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: if I if I said purely no, and if anyone 366 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: who's Davante Smith Truther says purely no, I think that's 367 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: honestly nonsense. I think they're being blind because it it 368 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: does concern, It has to concern to some degree. Now, 369 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: where you let that degree get to is a matter 370 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: of how much you like Davonte Smith. But the simple 371 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: fact is if he succeeds at the NFL level, at 372 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 1: the degree or to the agree that we a lot 373 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: of people think he will, he will be an outlier. 374 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: Definition outlier means it's rare, it doesn't occur all the time, 375 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: and so that should give you a little bit in 376 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: my opinion of honest hesitation. But the magnitude of that 377 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: concern is what matters, and for me, it is minimal. 378 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: I I wish he was ten pounds heavier. I do 379 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: not deny it. But am I going to let that 380 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: stop me from taking him number one among wide receivers 381 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: in rookie drafts, or, by the way, pretty close to 382 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: number one in rookie drafts overall if you're not in 383 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: a two QB or a super flex league. I think 384 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: that's probably the way I'm leaning right now. Is am 385 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 1: I gonna let that stow me if I'm an NFL 386 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: team from taking him top ten? No? Absolutely not, because 387 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: everything else he put on tape blows that those concerns 388 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: out of the water. He is incredible, and he does 389 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: everything that you would need to do to make up 390 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: for that slighter frame extremely well. So a lot of 391 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: the names that get brought up when we talk about, oh, well, 392 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: who's a player comparison for this release? Thin you know, 393 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: slight framed guy. Then that's succeeded at the NFL, and 394 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: people who want to defend DeVante Smith will bring up 395 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: guys like Marvin Harrison, Isaac Bruce, Chad Johnson, basically Hall 396 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: of Fame caliber wide receivers, to which you have to say, Okay, 397 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: that seems like maybe a little bit dangerous to make 398 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: those comparisons. But the thing is, like those guys were 399 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: all dominant receivers because they were very good, technically sound 400 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: route runners, they were athletic, they had high football i Q. 401 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: They knew how, like you said, to leverage dbs to 402 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: win in ways that they're They're slighter frame didn't really matter, 403 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: and Devonte Smith absolutely has every skill that you need 404 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: to do that. So I have no I have no 405 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: qualms drafting him at the very top of any draft, 406 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: even though I have technically answered your question technically a 407 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: little tiny bit of concern, and I hope he puts 408 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: on a little bit away at the NFL level. I mean, 409 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,239 Speaker 1: I think it's it's only natural at least have some concerns, right, 410 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're talking about playing, uh, an incredibly 411 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: violent physical sport, and you know it helps to have 412 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more padding, a little bit more muscle 413 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: on you so I think, you know, I think you're right. 414 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: I think anybody who says they have zero concern about 415 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: it is maybe being a little bit blind, uh to 416 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: what they want to believe there. And you mentioned Chad Johnson, Chadoshosenko, 417 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: however you want to refer to him. But he made 418 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: it a point on Twitter to say, Look, some guys 419 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: are just built different. You don't worry about their body type. 420 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: You watch their game, you realize that they can be successful. 421 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: And he said Devonte Smith is one of those guys. So, um, 422 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, I I feel like you can sort of 423 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: put some stock in that, right A guy who has 424 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: who has played and been successful on that level with 425 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,239 Speaker 1: a similar body type. Um, you know, I if he 426 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: watches and he has faith, I think that you can 427 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: allow you to have a little more faith as well. Um. 428 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 1: Watching him with the Tidele, they moved him all over 429 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: the field. And we always talk about, you know, can 430 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: a guy play inside outside? Certainly at Alabama he was 431 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: able to cut to win pretty much everywhere, obviously stepping 432 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: up a level in competition. Not everybody can make that jump. 433 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: Do you feel like Smith can go on stand on 434 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: the outside, play outside and be successful at the NFL level, Yes, 435 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: I absolutely do. Now what I prefer maybe that he 436 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: goes into the slot. Probably slot. Being in the slot 437 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: in general in the NFL these days for fantasy is 438 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: typically better if you're getting the targets. It's just easier 439 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: to get open, so it would be nice. But do 440 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: I think he can win on the outside still? Yes, 441 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: And there's one main reason why. If you're trying to 442 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: win on the outside of the NFL receiver, there's a 443 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: lot of things that come into play, but your release 444 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: off the line is going to be arguably the most 445 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: important thing. And Davonte Smith's ability to release off the line, 446 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: especially against press coverage which means the dB is up 447 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: on that line he's trying to get hands on the 448 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: receiver and push him off his route, which is where 449 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: you would be concerned about a hundred and seventy pound 450 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Right he is bonkers. It is hilarious to 451 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: watch him release off of the line, his foot quickness, 452 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: his release speed, the way that he just avoids completely 453 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: a dB trying to get his hands on him. I 454 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: almost was upset that I couldn't see him play through 455 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: that contact of the line more often to see how 456 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: I felt about his strength at his size because I 457 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: never got to see that dB put his hands on 458 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: him because they couldn't. They just couldn't. That's how elite 459 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: Davonte Smith is. And so yes, he can win on 460 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: the outside. He can win him from the slot, and 461 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: it might be best if he goes there, But if 462 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: a team wants to put him on the outside, I 463 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: will not be concerned. I think he can do it. 464 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: I think it's funny that you know a red flag 465 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: is that he was too good at this one thing, 466 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: so I don't see how he would be against other competition. 467 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: That that is, uh to speak volumes about what he 468 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: potentially can do on the next level. I think it's 469 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: interesting to we talk about at the college level, Um, 470 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, guys in their ability against press coverage that 471 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 1: you obviously watch a lot more of these guys than 472 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: I do on tape. Um, do you see a lot 473 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: of guys facing press coverage. I feel like we don't 474 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: see it quite as much at college, just because you know, 475 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: the defensive vacs maybe aren't as good. UM, So I 476 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: feel like it does sort of say something when a 477 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: guy is really good against press coverage. I feel like 478 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: they don't see it all that often in college. Yeah, 479 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: I think that's definitely. I think that's that's definitely true. Overall, 480 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: you see it less, you do see it more in 481 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: my opinion, to your point, in conferences where the dbs 482 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: are more NFL future NFL players, and so Davante Smith 483 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: playing in the SEC, he saw a lot of good 484 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: corners in his time. So I think that's where we 485 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 1: were able to see it a good amount. Um, you 486 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: don't see it as much, but when you can, it's 487 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: it's vital, in my opinion, vital tape to be able 488 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: to watch on a receiver. So that was nice to 489 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: be able to have with Smith. Yeah, no doubt. All right, 490 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: So let's go from him onto Jamaar Chase, who uh, 491 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: you know, had a huge career at l s U. 492 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: You can make the case that, uh, in twenty nineteen, Um, 493 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, I mean justin Jefferson was the guy who 494 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: went into the draft and obviously had a great rookie season. Um, 495 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: but you can you can make the case that that 496 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: year John Chase was the better wide receiver. He had 497 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: fewer catches, but he had more yards, He had a 498 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: couple more touchdowns. We didn't get to see. We didn't 499 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: see him at all uh in twenty after he opted out. 500 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: Um But obviously that hasn't dampened anybody's enthusiasm about what 501 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: he can be if we're talking about him at worst 502 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: as the number two receiver in this class. Uh So, 503 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: A big question here. Can he have a Justin Jefferson 504 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: like season? And I don't necessarily mean setting records or 505 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: anything like that, but in terms of just being an 506 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: immediate impact guy, um, I mean, does he have that 507 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: ability in him? Yeah, he definitely has had a ability 508 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: in him With Jamaar Chase, for me, it's a little 509 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,239 Speaker 1: bit he's a little bit more landing spot dependent. I 510 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: believe you asked me earlier to kind of rank these 511 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: top three. I said Chase was second, Wattle is third. 512 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: If they go to situations where I prefer largely or 513 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: heavily prefer Wattle situation to where Chase goes, it's very 514 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 1: possible I could swap those two. They're very They're very 515 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: close for me, actually closer for me than Smith and Chase, 516 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: which is most people's duo. Um So, I think it 517 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: does depend quite a bit on where he goes, or 518 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: at least some on where he goes, but he has 519 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: a skill set that can be early impact if he 520 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: gets the targets. I I think to the Saints last year, 521 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: like and in imaginary world, if Chase had come out 522 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: early after that crazy season, gone to the Saints in 523 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,719 Speaker 1: that season where Michael Thomas missed most of the year 524 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: and he was filming the Michael Thomas role, that kind 525 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: of place he would destroy. He could have the Justin 526 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: Jefferson record breaking type of thing that you you kind 527 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 1: of even left off the table in a situation like that. 528 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: So I think it does matter. One of the tough 529 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: things is a lot of the landing spots at the 530 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: very top, like in the top ten, are not those situations. 531 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: They don't really meet those requirements for me. The teams 532 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: like the Bengals, even the Dolphins, Lions, Panthers, Broncos, those 533 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: are basically all the teams in the top ten that 534 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: are likely to take him. I don't love those spots 535 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: for an immediate impact like Jefferson had. Maybe if he 536 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: were to slip to the Giants or the Eagles down 537 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: to the eleven or twelve, then we're starting to get 538 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: into territory where I could see it. I don't think 539 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna slip that far. Most people don't, So 540 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet on like a wide receiver one or 541 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: even high end wide receiver too impact rookie season. But 542 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: he does have that ability, and he could if he 543 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: goes to the right place. So you talk about landing 544 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: spots to it, that's one thing I'm you know, we 545 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: obviously don't know. We're still nine days away from the 546 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: draft starting as we record this UM, but you know, 547 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: we're always we're trying to project right. People are doing 548 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: mock drafts and trying to figure out where these guys go. 549 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: I would say that for for us fantasy types, and 550 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: maybe you have a different opinion, but I would almost 551 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: like to see these guys go somewhere where they aren't 552 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: asked to necessarily carry the full burden in their first year, 553 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: right that. I think for for all three of these guys, 554 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: the potential is there for them to be wide receiver ones. 555 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to see them have to carry that 556 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: in in their first year. Like you mentioned Detroit, Like 557 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: I've seen mox with DeVante Smith going to Detroit, Like 558 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: I don't love that for him, you know, I don't 559 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: like that situation I don't like. I wouldn't like if 560 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase had to go somewhere where he was expected 561 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: to sort of carry the load. I mean, we look 562 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: at the guys who really excelled last year. Justin Jefferson, right, 563 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: he's playing alongside Adam Feeling. Um, you know you've got 564 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb who's playing alongside of Marie Cooper. I feel 565 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: like Jerry Judy, Uh, you know, I'm curious to see 566 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: what his rookie year would have been like if they 567 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: had Court and Sutton for the full year where there 568 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: isn't necessarily that pressure to go in and step in 569 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: and be that guy right away. Um. I mean for 570 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: the teams, obviously it's great you feel like you've got 571 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: a number one caliber wide receiver. I think for us 572 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: and fantasy, I would almost prefer to see these guys 573 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: land somewhere where they know there's at least a little 574 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 1: bit of help to to get them started in their 575 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: first year or two. Yeah. I think that's a great 576 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: call overall, um, And and with receivers in general, it's 577 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: typically the case that we don't expect them to or 578 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: demand from them that they break out in a huge way. 579 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: As a rookie like Jefferson did. With running backs, we 580 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: kind of want that these days and expect it, but 581 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: with receivers we don't as much. So if you go 582 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: somewhere you have a little bit of time, I think 583 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: that can be more helpful. I mean, if you ask 584 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: me the number one spot, and this is even to 585 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: take the quarterback out of the out of the picture, 586 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: give them an average quarterback. The Chiefs would be a 587 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: great situation. Now, there's no way he's gonna fall to 588 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 1: the chief But just in terms of you've got tyreek 589 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: Kill who's a different kind of receiver, You've got Travis 590 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: Kelsey who's a tight end. You don't have to demand 591 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: of Jamaar Chase that he'd be the number one. But 592 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: it's the kind of situation, aation where he could carve 593 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: out a role of his own where he could be 594 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: dominant in a year or two. Then of course he 595 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: throw the quarterback in that that would just be bonkers. 596 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: But he's not getting there. I'm just saying to your point, 597 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: I think that can be more helpful and more promising 598 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: in the long run. Yeah, it just it just yea again, 599 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: this is are these are our wish lists and we 600 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: know that. You know, I mean, maybe somebody, maybe Andy 601 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: Reid is listening and wants to make a big move. 602 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm all for it and do it and all for it. Uh. 603 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: Not not expecting that though. Um. The other thing with 604 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase and people have sort of commented on his 605 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: route running saying it's not particularly great. Um, I was, 606 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: I was trolling your Twitter account yesterday as I was 607 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: putting this thing together, and I know that I came 608 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: across a conversation you had about sort of the way 609 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: l s U ran its offense in the past and 610 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: the way they sort of put their route concepts together 611 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: where it didn't it. Maybe what looks like lazy route 612 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: running quote unquote is sort of by design and set 613 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: up to sort of, you know, make things easier for 614 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: the offense or make things more difficult on the defense, 615 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: what have you. And that in some ways it does 616 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: sort of mirror some things at the Saints. You talk about, 617 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, Jamar Chase going to the Saints and what 618 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: that potentially means, what it could have meant had he 619 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: landed there. Um. So, taking all that into account, are 620 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: the route running concerns overblown or is there something there 621 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: at least to keep an eye on. Yeah, that was 622 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: a really interesting conversation actually that I had with that 623 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: Twitter user. I don't even remember where they came from, 624 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: but um, they gave me some really interesting context and 625 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: I looked into a little bit more and it did 626 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: seem to check out to a degree. Now, the issue 627 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: still with for me with Chase is that I haven't 628 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: seen the route running ability. Now, that doesn't mean he 629 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: can't do it. If it was schemed that way, maybe 630 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: he just didn't have to do it and so he didn't. 631 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: But I haven't seen it where I have with a 632 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: guy like Davonte Smith or a couple other guys even 633 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: down the list that we'll talk about, and that gives 634 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: me a little bit of pause and a little bit 635 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: of concern and just roll. He does give me the 636 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: impression of more of a straight lining guy. So I 637 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: do I believe he's going to be like if he 638 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: goes somewhere that doesn't have that kind of scheme and 639 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: they do ask him to be very crisp, very sudden 640 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: in his routes, Do I expect him to suddenly be 641 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs. No, I don't. I do think that he 642 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: will be lower on the route running tree. But the thing, 643 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: Mr mar Chase is we have tons of other attributes 644 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: with which he wins. And if you don't have to 645 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: be an excellent, excellent route runner to win with those 646 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: other skill sets that he has, and if he does 647 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: add that, if he does go somewhere and we see 648 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: that he actually can do it, that's just an extra boost. 649 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: So that's one of the reasons he's so high because 650 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: even without that skill set being on tape as clearly 651 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: as we would like, we know he can win. And 652 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: if he adds that, he just wins even more. That 653 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: You talk about athleticism and you watch Jamar Chase and 654 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 1: he just has that in droves UM, And you're right. 655 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: If he goes somewhere, it gets with a coach or 656 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: just works with somebody who can sort of help improve 657 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: these route running skills. That that to me feels like 658 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: a happy learned how to put moment right. That's like, um, 659 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: that that's that's trouble for everybody else. If he takes 660 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: that athleticism, that's those skills he already has, UH, and 661 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: he adds route running to it, then then watch out everybody. UM. 662 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: So that takes us to Jalen Waddle, who was teammates 663 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: with Vonte Smith at Alabama. Uh. When you when you 664 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: watch the tape, when you read the scouting reports, the 665 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: first thing everybody talks about is speed. You can't help 666 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: but see it. You you and I did this uh 667 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: for YouTube a few weeks ago. We we mentioned Jalen 668 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: Waddle and I said, I think at the time that 669 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: you watch the tape and you can sort of see 670 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: defensive backs already getting nervous just as he lines up there, 671 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: right giving him extra cushion, knowing what they have to 672 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 1: deal with their um speed is a great attribute, right. 673 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: You can't really teach it. Uh. Watching him, though, what 674 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: else stood out for you about what he does besides 675 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: just being fast? Honestly a whole lot. I think he 676 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: does just about everything pretty well, and it's one of 677 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: the things that makes him so scary. Generally speaking, I'm 678 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: not a fan of pure speed receivers. Like when Henry 679 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: Ruggs was coming out and everybody was excited about him 680 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: in the draft, he was very low in my rookie 681 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: wide receiver rankings at my Dynasty wide receiver rankings because 682 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: to me, he was a little bit too one dimensional. 683 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: Wattle is not at all. He is extremely slippery after 684 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: the catch. So he's not just a guy who's gonna, 685 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, win on nine routes streaking down the field 686 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: and then hopefully he's in the end zone. Otherwise that's it. 687 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: He's a guy who you can send on a short 688 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: slanter and in and then he breaks away from everybody 689 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: within twenty yards and is down the field in a flash. Um, 690 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: he's extremely good, excellent at misdirecting the defender at the 691 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: top of his routes when he with a lot of 692 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: these speed guys who just know they have to blow 693 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: by them, and if they don't blow by them, they 694 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 1: don't win. With Jalen Wattle, that's not the case. He's 695 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: got the like I talked about earlier, those head fakes, 696 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: the nuances, the body leverage, the ability to misdirect that 697 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 1: dB and when you have the speed that Waddle has, 698 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: all those things become even easier for you and harder 699 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: for the corner. So that that is incredible for him 700 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: on tape. And one specific skill that kind of falls 701 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: under that tree that stands out his I mentioned comeback 702 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: routes earlier. His ability to uh stutter down on on 703 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 1: a vertical route. To stutter down, to stop his feet quickly, 704 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: come back to the quarterback quickly and catch comeback routes 705 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: is monstrous. It is going to wreck NFL defenses. And 706 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: part of that is that fear that you talked about 707 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: when the corner of the scared is you have to 708 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: be with Jal the wattle because of his speed. And 709 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: then he can do that and come back to the 710 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: quarterback after looking like he's just running a nine route. 711 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: It's impossible to defend. And Waddle's ability in that specific 712 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: aspect is so so good. Plus that's just a quarterback's 713 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: best friend. To have a guy coming back to you. 714 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: He's wide open. You can't even see the corner who 715 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: was supposed to be covering him because he's ten more 716 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: yards downfield. It's amazing stuff. So Waddle really really stands out, 717 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: honestly across the board for me, he's going to be 718 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: very very high upside in the NFL. So we didn't 719 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: get to see a lot of him last year. Midway 720 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: through the season he ended up having ankle surgery, which 721 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: took him out for the remainder of the season. Any 722 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: concern about the ankle. Um, you know, heading into the 723 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: season this point. No, he toughs it out, even played 724 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: in the National Championship. Now he's going to have had 725 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: a full offseason. Plus. I also hit up my good friend, 726 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: former co host Matthew Betts, who is now the Fantasy 727 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: Footballer's primary full time injury analyst, and I said, you 728 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: have any concerns, any issues at all with waddles ankle? 729 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: He said, absolutely not. And with waddle and his athleticism 730 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: and his speed that's important. Like this is not a 731 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: guy like a Mike Evans who just needs to run 732 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: ten yards and then jump up in the air and 733 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: catch the ball. His ankles are very important to his game. 734 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: But there are no concerns there for me. I feel 735 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 1: full go all right, So his ankles are healthy, which 736 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: means he potentially is wrecking somebody else's when he's up 737 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: there on the field. Um, all right. So that's those 738 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: are the big three. They're the guys that you know 739 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: will certainly go first round. Um, you know, it's just 740 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: a question of how early or late if you will. Uh, 741 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: they go in the first round. Now, I got four 742 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: guys that I sort of put into the next tier 743 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: that all have a chance to come off the board 744 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: in the first round, and if not, I would expect 745 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: that they're probably gonna be off by early in the 746 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: second round. The first for me is Alijah more and like, 747 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: there's no particular order for me here. If you like 748 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: one of them more than the other, please feel free 749 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: to point that out. But Alijah more old miss um, 750 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: a guy who the first thing I noticed about him 751 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: was just how good his hands were. Um. And you 752 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, how good guys are at the 753 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: catch point. I mean, it just didn't seem like when 754 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: I was watching him the games that I watched him, 755 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: he didn't drop the ball, he didn't bobble the ball 756 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 1: if it was if it was catchable, he was catching 757 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: it much um. But he he lived his life as 758 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: a slot receiver in Oxford. Is that going to be 759 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,439 Speaker 1: his life in the NFL? Or is there a chance 760 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: and maybe he can be something other than just a 761 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: slot and not. I shouldn't say I shouldn't say it 762 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: like that. I don't want to make it sound like 763 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 1: being a slot guy is a bad or terrible thing. 764 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: But it seems like that is what he's destined to 765 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: be at the next level. It is and in my opinion, 766 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: it needs to be um with human. You mentioned his hands. 767 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: My note on his hands incredibly smooth and sure hands 768 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: across the middle. That's how what I have in my 769 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 1: scouting notes. He was super impressive in that, but a 770 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: little below that in my notes, I have unimpressive release, 771 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: especially against press coverage where he is useless. That's what 772 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: I wrote in my notes. And needs to be a 773 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,240 Speaker 1: slot receiver who has schemed into open space to succeed. 774 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: So I mentioned it with the Vonte Smith briefly. The 775 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: reason you get put into the slot often or or 776 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: the big skill that you need to have on the 777 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: outside if you're gonna stay out of the slot, is 778 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: that release ability. Because you're gonna have dbs who were 779 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: pressed up on you or if they're playing off, you 780 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: need to be able to eat up that space as 781 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: a receiver quickly and effectively. I did not see that 782 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: with Elijah More. It was rough. So I absolutely believe 783 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: he needs to be in the slot. If he is, 784 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: I believe it can be a very effective NFL and 785 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: Fantasy wide receiver. His hands are great, his route running 786 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: is great, his athleticism is great. He's a very versatile receiver. 787 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: Put him in the slot, and I think the NFL 788 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: team that drafts him will know this, so I think 789 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: it will happen. Put him in the slot. I think 790 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: he will succeed. Don't put him on the outside, please. Um. 791 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,479 Speaker 1: As you as you're talking, I'm sitting here thinking about 792 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: the landing spots. Potentially. Uh, it probably wouldn't be a 793 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: first round sort of thing. But the idea of him 794 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: in Carolina sort of taking over where Curtis Samuel once was, 795 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: now that Samuel in Washington, that to me seems sort 796 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: of interesting. There are there are targets available in the slot. 797 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: They can sort of use him as a gadget guy. 798 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: That was one of the things you saw them do 799 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: at Old miss I was using him a lot as 800 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: kind of a jet sweep, kind of an addition to 801 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: the running game there. Um, I don't know, Just as 802 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 1: as you were talking, it just popped into my head. 803 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: Seeing Eli Moore in a Carolina Panthers uniform, it seems 804 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: kind of interesting to me. Yeah, definitely could be. And 805 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: if he does go at the back end of the 806 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: first which would be a lot a lot of you know, 807 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: draft analysts and mock drafts are starting to have him 808 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: creep up there. There are some really nice options there, 809 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 1: like the Packers, maybe even the Ravens, the Chiefs. There 810 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: are some really good slot opportunities at the back end 811 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: of the first round. If he goes there to one 812 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: of those teams, that's gonna be huge for his fantasy value. 813 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: If any of these guys goes to Kansas City, right, 814 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,479 Speaker 1: we're just we're gonna go bonkers. Right, We're just gonna 815 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 1: go nuts, We're gonna go insane. I mean, these guys 816 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 1: end up going to Kansas City. Um, Kadarius Tony University 817 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: of Florida, Uh, very much, sort of a I feel 818 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 1: like he's one of those guys where, you know, there's 819 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: nothing that I saw of him that was, you know, 820 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: super spectacular blew you away. But I felt like there 821 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: are a lot of things about him that I thought 822 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: were really good. I know, he's another guy. He's a 823 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: guy who can do who can play special teams as well, 824 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: which is certainly always a plus. Um. Statistically, though, just 825 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: one real season of note does that worry you at 826 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: all about him? Absolutely not? And here's why, largely speaking, 827 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: one season of production doesn't necessarily mean the end of 828 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,439 Speaker 1: things for me. Look at Jamar Chase, who had one. 829 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: Of course he would have had another one if he 830 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: didn't opted out, but still we have one incredible season 831 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: to go off with Jamar Chase. Generally, it's not a 832 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: huge deal for me, but it's even less of a 833 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: huge deal for a guy who transfers from quarterback to 834 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver in the middle of his career, which is 835 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: what can Darius Tony And he was a high school quarterback. 836 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: He came in expecting to play quarterback at Florida. He 837 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: ended up switching to wide receiver because his athleticism was 838 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 1: so insane and he honestly blew me away in his ability, 839 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: especially as a route runner, to win as a receiver 840 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: after basically one year of true wide receiver play. It 841 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: is very, very impressive. And he was actually asked in 842 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: a in a press conference what he thinks he can 843 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,320 Speaker 1: improve on most of the receiver and he said route running. 844 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,399 Speaker 1: And that's probably the right answer for a guy who 845 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: just switched the position. But for me on tape, his 846 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: route running was extremely impressive already. So that's pretty scary 847 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: in my opinion for what he can be at the 848 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: next level in terms of just that what I talked 849 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: about earlier under that route running tree, that um breaking 850 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: in and out, that suddenness, that foot quickness, the break 851 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: your ankles kind of ability that we we talked about 852 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 1: guys like Stefon Diggs and Keenan Allen Kadarius Tony might 853 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: do that better than anybody else in this class. In 854 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: my opinion, his athleticism through his route is insane, and 855 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: he's extremely fast and quick, So if he continues to 856 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: improve on the nuance of his route running on top 857 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: of that, he could be extremely, extremely dangerous. He was 858 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: a guy going in like the twenties range of mock 859 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,280 Speaker 1: draft earlier in this draft season. He's kind of fallen 860 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: a little bit since then. But if he goes in 861 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: the second round to it a team that's willing to 862 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 1: use him in all of his all the ways he 863 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 1: can win, which is a lot, and all of his versatility, 864 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: is going to be pretty sweet for fantasy. In my opinion. 865 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: I have heard the name Percy Harvin attached to him 866 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: on occasion. I think some of it is obviously the 867 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: the Florida connection between the two of them. Is that 868 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 1: is that ridiculous? I mean, I looked a bat It's 869 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 1: like well, let's, you know, let's call him down a 870 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: little bit. But I don't know, you were not in 871 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: your head, So maybe that's not as ridiculous as I 872 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 1: thought it was. I don't think it is. There are 873 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: a lot of similarities there. Percy Harvin's ability as a returner, 874 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 1: his out of the backfield kind of um gadget ability 875 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: was certainly similar to what we've seen from Tony. I 876 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: think Tony has a higher upside because I think that 877 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 1: he is al now what we kind of saw Percy 878 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: Harvin being, and if, like I was talking about, he 879 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,760 Speaker 1: can add more aspects to his game as a receiver, 880 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: become more well rounded, I think he can be better, 881 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: kind of like what we saw from Tyreek Hill. If 882 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: you guys remember, you know, when he came out, we 883 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 1: didn't see him as a complete receiver. He was kind 884 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: of a return specialist, and then all of a sudden 885 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: he was a nasty route runner and was annihilating the 886 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: entire NFL. I could see a similar kind of path 887 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: for Darius Tony. Maybe not that high upside because one 888 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: of the best, but but that kind of trajectory, all right, 889 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean he was a guy that early on I 890 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: sort of had him as my my fourth receiver. I've 891 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 1: kind of, I don't know, I've played around with that 892 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: a little bit, but um yeah, I'm just like I said, 893 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 1: the Percy Hard thing just it perked my ears up 894 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: a little bit, so I was that was good to hear. Um. 895 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: So we have two Alabama receivers on this list with 896 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: Vante Smith and Jaylen Waddle. Now we've got a second 897 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: ellis you receiver and that is Terris Marshall, who was 898 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: in the absence of Jamaar Chase this past year. He 899 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: became Holms the de facto number one in Baton Rouge 900 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: sort of opted out late in the season there. Um, 901 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't necessarily put up the bananas video 902 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 1: game numbers that we had seen maybe the year before 903 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 1: from Chase or from Justin Jefferson. Some of it has 904 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 1: to do with you lose a quarterback like Joe Burrow 905 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 1: that's going to impact the offense as well watching him. 906 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: Was it was it a benefit or was it a 907 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 1: disadvantage for him to not be playing alongside Jamaar Chase 908 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: last year? Um, I think it was more of a 909 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: help honestly than I heard, just because of the attention 910 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: he was able to get We got to see him 911 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: kind of Uh, he only played seven games, but we 912 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 1: got to see him in those seven games take on 913 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: a much more productive role, basically doubling his catches and 914 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: yards per game numbers from the year before. UM. And 915 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: then the question obviously becomes, well, without Chase taking that attention, 916 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: was he, you know, a lesser receiver? Did he succeed less? 917 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: Was he less efficient? And the answer is nope, he 918 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: very good. His yards perception actually went up from tween 919 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: he had ten touchdowns in seven games where he had 920 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 1: thirteen and twelve. Everything that we saw with Chase off 921 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,720 Speaker 1: the field was still this guy is an excellent receiver. 922 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 1: This guy can be the focal point. He can be 923 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,280 Speaker 1: a number one. UM. He's got one of the best size, 924 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 1: size speed combos, maybe the best of anyone in this class. 925 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: So when you're looking for a number one, that's a 926 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: really nice combo to have. So I really like that 927 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: with Tervis Marshall. He has a very young breakout age 928 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: and a very good dominator rating. If you go to 929 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 1: those analytics that a lot of people look at with 930 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 1: wide receivers, that says, well, did he stand out in college? 931 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: Did he succeed early and did he stand out And 932 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: the answer is yes, and it was a very lucrative 933 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: system he was playing in. But the tape, in my opinion, 934 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: supports that he is a very very good wide receiver. Yeah, 935 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 1: it's funny because he is one of the bigger receivers 936 00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: I think in this class, at least in this this 937 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 1: tier of guys. There at six to UM I don't 938 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: remember who was I saw tweeted it. This is size wise, 939 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 1: this is not a physically large class of wide receivers. 940 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,760 Speaker 1: I mean we you know, obviously people talk about Davante 941 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: Smith and and his kind of slight frame and point 942 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 1: that out. But generally speaking, I mean, you don't have 943 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 1: a lot of big, monstrous, you know, six five guys 944 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: in this class, and so terrorist Marshall uh is one 945 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: of the bigger guys, and so it'll be curious to 946 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: see Uh, you know, sort of where he lands and 947 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: how he how they use him because he is very different, 948 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: um physically than than everybody. I don't know, does that 949 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: does that make make a difference for you at all? 950 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 1: I mean, how much does body type play into it 951 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: when you're when you're watching guys it can it can 952 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 1: make a difference, um primarily in like what what they're 953 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: going to do at the NFL level and how they're 954 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: going to be used. Different receivers are going to be 955 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: schemed into different things. You've got your ex, your Y, 956 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: your Z, your slot receivers. What they're going to be 957 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,839 Speaker 1: used for is somewhat dependent on their size and how 958 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: they play with that size, and that's one of the 959 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 1: really important things. Like Davante Smith, it would be concerning 960 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 1: if he played like he was a hundred seventy pounds. 961 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 1: He doesn't. He plays like he's two hundred pounds, and 962 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: so he continues to win. But but yeah, it definitely matters. 963 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,839 Speaker 1: And when you have the size speed comba that Terris 964 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: Marshall has, that's a really big threat because if you 965 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 1: are big but not that fast, you can be very 966 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: effective as a contested catch guy, a red zone guy. 967 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,879 Speaker 1: But if you're big and fast, you can win all 968 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 1: over the field, every area of the field. And that's 969 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: what Terris Marshall I think offers. So yeah, he he 970 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: currently is my five. Because there's one other guy that 971 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,959 Speaker 1: we haven't talked about and won't talk about until next pod, 972 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 1: so tune in. Who's one of my favorites that is 973 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: above him, But he's right in this group, um, at 974 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 1: the top of this group of guys even that we're 975 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: talking about for me. All right, that's a tease, folks. 976 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, be sure to tune in next week because 977 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: we uh give you the conclusion of our wide receiver talk, 978 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: but the conclusion today of our wide receivers um, hey, 979 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: we actually we actually step outside the SEC and talk 980 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 1: about it. Not SEC receivers. Who in this Windshot Bateman, 981 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: who has I think a pretty steady and I guess 982 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: growing following on fantasy Twitter and in draft Twitter with 983 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: what he's done now last year was to say, a 984 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 1: roller coaster, I think as an understatement. He started the 985 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,959 Speaker 1: year he opted out. He actually caught COVID opted out 986 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 1: before the season started, when it looked like the Big 987 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,720 Speaker 1: ten might not play. Then you know, the schools decide 988 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: they're going to play. He decides to come back, plays 989 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: five games, and then after another outbreak, decides he was 990 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 1: going to opt out for the remainder of the season. 991 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm certainly not going to criticize him for that, especially 992 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,280 Speaker 1: as somebody who who had already caught it once. UM 993 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 1: to take precautions with his health. I completely get it, 994 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 1: but you know, obviously it means we didn't see as 995 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 1: much of him on tape. In for you, how much 996 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: emphasis did you put into what you watched this past 997 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: year or were you forced to kind of go back 998 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: and watch previous years to get a better sense of 999 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 1: who he is. I went mixed. I watched a little 1000 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: bit of both um and I think largely that that 1001 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 1: that's the best way to do it. You know, if 1002 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: Chase had played another season and not had a productive 1003 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: a year, I think it would have been right to 1004 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: watch both because he was incredible in why did he 1005 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 1: maybe not succeeded much in as as much? In so 1006 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: in general, I like to be able to do that 1007 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: if there are big swings in a receiver's production UM 1008 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 1: or in or just how much they succeed. And so 1009 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 1: I watched a little bit both with Bateman and the 1010 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: Tough Thing, the really tough thing honestly with him, and 1011 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 1: that situation is one of the biggest drawbacks for me 1012 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: with him in general, was inconsistency. He has some very 1013 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: high upside uh and the ability that he shows in 1014 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 1: certain instances is very impressive. He is a very good 1015 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: route runner, athletic and fast off of the line, very 1016 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 1: good after the catch. He's got a lot of joking ability, 1017 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,879 Speaker 1: not super physical in general, but most of the rest 1018 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: of the package he has. But he had this tendency 1019 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: to kind of disappear, And I wonder if it means 1020 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 1: maybe he can't be a wide receiver one for an 1021 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: NFL team. Maybe he just needs to be a contributor guy, 1022 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,480 Speaker 1: a very successful one, but more of a two at 1023 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 1: the NFL level. But the tough thing is, if we 1024 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 1: had had a full twenty, it would have been easier 1025 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,879 Speaker 1: to evaluate that, like where where is this inconsistency coming from? 1026 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 1: Why does he continue to play with these ups and 1027 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,279 Speaker 1: downs and having a kind of reduced season, and like 1028 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,720 Speaker 1: even the games that he did play being affected maybe 1029 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 1: by the in and out phenomenon. It made it tough. 1030 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 1: So he's a tougher one for me to to analyze 1031 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: on tape. One of the big reasons, actually the big 1032 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 1: reason he's becoming very popular in the community is because 1033 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 1: of his analytics numbers. That Don Manator rating that I 1034 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 1: talked about, where how much did you dominate at your 1035 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 1: own on your own team, at your own school, and 1036 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 1: the breakout age, how young did you become very productive? 1037 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:13,760 Speaker 1: He is eight and nine percentile in those two analytics metrics, 1038 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 1: so very very good analytics profile. And so even with 1039 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 1: the inconsistent or lesser tape that we have on him, 1040 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 1: a lot of people are really really excited. I think 1041 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 1: that's helpful in this instance to be able to turn 1042 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 1: to that. So it is it is a good, you know, 1043 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 1: fall in his court there. I do think he's kind 1044 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 1: of at the bottom of this group we've mentioned, but 1045 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,439 Speaker 1: still this is one of those guys who's like maybe 1046 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,800 Speaker 1: towards that seven eight, nine ten range, who is still 1047 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 1: worth drafting in the early to mid second round of 1048 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 1: rookie drafts and might compare to a guy like Tee 1049 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,720 Speaker 1: Higgins because of how deep his classes to talk about, 1050 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: maybe he may not blossom into a wide receiver one, 1051 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 1: may be more of a wide receiver to at the 1052 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:57,720 Speaker 1: next level. So of of Bateman, Moore, Tony Marshall, any 1053 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: of those guys sort of profile to use potential wide 1054 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,839 Speaker 1: receiver ones. Yeah, for me, it's Marshall by a long 1055 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 1: shot of this group. More it's going to be more 1056 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: of that slot guy. Look we talked about Tony, I 1057 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: think is always going to be doing everything but not 1058 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 1: being the hunter and fifty target, you know, red Zone 1059 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,320 Speaker 1: king guy, the prototypical one. And we just talked about 1060 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 1: Bateman Marshall though I think for me profiles very much 1061 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 1: in that kind of role. So he's one of the 1062 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,439 Speaker 1: most interesting for me in terms of landing spot because 1063 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: if he does go somewhere where it looks like they 1064 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 1: might ask him to be the one relatively soon, I 1065 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,359 Speaker 1: might feel better about him there than some of these 1066 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 1: other guys, like you talked about what we might want 1067 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,720 Speaker 1: to give them a year or two. Um, So he's 1068 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 1: the one that stands out in that aspect, but I 1069 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 1: think they can all succeed a lot in different ways. 1070 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,839 Speaker 1: All right, Well that I feel like it's a good 1071 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 1: place to sort of have a break here and kind 1072 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,800 Speaker 1: of regroup and get ready for next week. Um. Yeah, 1073 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:59,319 Speaker 1: this was There's a lot to take in. Man. Uh, 1074 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 1: it's alive again, but it's it's definitely good looking forward 1075 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 1: to kind of getting through next because next week. But 1076 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 1: we got there are a lot of names out there. 1077 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: Just is a sneak peak anybody in particular that that 1078 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: folks should really be excited about that that will probably 1079 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,399 Speaker 1: show up on this list next week. Yeah, I'll throw 1080 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: out three names for three different reasons. One is Ron 1081 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 1: da Aylmore. I'll throw him out because people love him 1082 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,720 Speaker 1: and are getting super excited about him, very dynamic player. 1083 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: Another is uh Tylan Wallace, and I'll throw him out 1084 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: because I freaking love him, arguably my favorite fantasy player 1085 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 1: in this whole class in terms of like a Matt 1086 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 1: o'coda's guy kind of guy. And then the one other 1087 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,880 Speaker 1: one I'll throw out is a Monroe st. Brown, who, 1088 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 1: if that sounds somewhat familiar, is because he's related to 1089 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: Ecuonymius st. Brown. Spoiler alert. I think he's a lot 1090 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 1: better than Econymus Brown. I really like him as well. 1091 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,840 Speaker 1: He fits in with this tire we just talked about 1092 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 1: for me. So these are these are three more guys 1093 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 1: honestly that might fit into this tire. We're getting down 1094 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 1: to the outside the top ten and we're still talking 1095 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 1: about this tier receivers. That's how crazy deep it is. 1096 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,800 Speaker 1: So definitely check into that pod because it's going to 1097 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,359 Speaker 1: be a good one, all right, into all the people 1098 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,840 Speaker 1: out there listening, I promise you I did not bribe 1099 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 1: him to get him to mention a usc guy at 1100 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,839 Speaker 1: the end of this show. Um so so so this 1101 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,879 Speaker 1: is it's genuine, it's not it's not fortunate at also 1102 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,280 Speaker 1: all right, so get ready for that next week. Obviously 1103 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,320 Speaker 1: that will be our final piece of this pre draft 1104 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 1: puzzle and guy here on Tuesday and give you a 1105 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 1: couple of days to sort of digest it as we 1106 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: get ready for the actual NFL Draft coming up in 1107 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 1: about a week and a half from right now. 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