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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. Well,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to Coast to Coast Richard Smoley with us. Richard.

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Speaker 1: Many civilizations have talked about themselves being in end times,

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Speaker 1: and this culture, this civilization is no different. What's your

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Speaker 1: take on end times? Prophecy? Well, I would say, are

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Speaker 1: we in the end times? Well, every age is the

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Speaker 1: end of an age. But does this mean that the

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Speaker 1: world is completely going to be convulsed and someone who's

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Speaker 1: going to come down and save us, not in this

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Speaker 1: particular way, in this particular time. One thing about end

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Speaker 1: times is there's a psychological concept called displacement, and displacement

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Speaker 1: is you are afraid of something, You're really afraid, and

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Speaker 1: you don't want to face this sphere, so you displace it,

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Speaker 1: as it were, onto something else, a little something that's

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Speaker 1: a little bit more easy to manage and handle. Now,

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Speaker 1: it is the case that with you and me and

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Speaker 1: everyone who is listening now, your world is going to

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Speaker 1: end in a few decades at the most. We all

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Speaker 1: know this. Your world is going to end, and it

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Speaker 1: might be tomorrow, it might be fifty years from now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Thanks a lot of Richard, Well, I

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Speaker 1: hope in your case it's fifty years from now at

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Speaker 1: the earliest, but no one knows. But in any case,

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Speaker 1: this is a very disturbing thing and a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: and this is the role End Times Apocalypse has played.

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Speaker 1: I think in much of human thought, we don't really

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Speaker 1: want to face that. So on the other hand, we

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Speaker 1: kind of know it's there. So we've created a story

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Speaker 1: about this end Times that are coming for everybody real soon.

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Speaker 1: Some people will, um, you know, create these dates on

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Speaker 1: the most absurd premises, and it's a way of deflecting

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Speaker 1: our own attention from our own mortality, because, yeah, your

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Speaker 1: world is going to come to an end. My world

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Speaker 1: is going to come to h very soon. But facing

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Speaker 1: that purely is very hard, and facing it in this

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Speaker 1: more remote way of well, somehow Jesus is going to

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Speaker 1: come down and everybody's gonna be raptured up and their

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Speaker 1: cars are going to crash on the Dallas Highways whatever

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Speaker 1: that's uh, you know, we know it's not going to

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Speaker 1: happen that way, but believing it will happen that way

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Speaker 1: kind of makes the real thing a little bit easier

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Speaker 1: to bear. Sure, So that is one of the main

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Speaker 1: psychological impetuses of the end times. That doesn't mean that

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Speaker 1: all the crises and you know, climate change or whatever,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that those things aren't happening. It means

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Speaker 1: that this kind of notion of apocalypse is a way

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Speaker 1: of dealing with our own death. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: when you die, I guess we all sort of feel

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Speaker 1: you die alone, which is unpleasant. It's kind of disturbing.

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Speaker 1: The idea that everybody's going to go together, we'll all

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Speaker 1: go together when we go is at least a little

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Speaker 1: more comforting. So that is one of the chief psychological

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Speaker 1: drives behind the notion of end times. Do you believe

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Speaker 1: in prophecy? Richard, No, you don't tell me why? Why not?

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Speaker 1: Because none of the prophecies will come true. Well, um,

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Speaker 1: the only prophecy that I've ever known that has come

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Speaker 1: true was in some of the native traditions where they

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Speaker 1: were talking about earth changes, and you know, thirty forty

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Speaker 1: years ago they were talking about major earth changes and

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Speaker 1: people laughed at this as well, this could never happen,

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Speaker 1: and whatnot. And some of these earth changes are happening

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Speaker 1: those you know, Native Americans, indigenous people did predict something

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Speaker 1: like that and they are coming true. Are they coming

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Speaker 1: true in exactly the way they were forecasts? Not not exactly,

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Speaker 1: but something like that is happening. All the others some

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Speaker 1: we haven't come true. And that includes a lot of

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Speaker 1: prophecies in the Bible, like, for example, let's take you know,

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Speaker 1: people want to take the Bible literally. Give us take

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Speaker 1: the Bible literally. Let's look at what it's called the

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Speaker 1: apocalyptic discourse or the Little Apocalypse in Matthew chapter twenty four,

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Speaker 1: Mark chapter thirteen, Luke chapter twenty one. They're all versions

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Speaker 1: of the same thing. And if you read them literally.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about reading the Bible literally. They predict including them,

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Speaker 1: Jesus predicts a Roman invasion of Judea with the sack

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Speaker 1: of the temple, and this all happened. It did happen,

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Speaker 1: that's true. On the other hand, it also predicts that

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Speaker 1: very soon after this, like almost immediately, the end of

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Speaker 1: temple in Jerusalem was sacked, the Jews were dispersed, and

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Speaker 1: you know, we can read the history books, but the

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Speaker 1: You know, as I say, people want to read the

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Speaker 1: Bible literally, except when it kind of makes them squirm.

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Speaker 1: There are other biblical predictions that didn't come true in

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Speaker 1: face the fact that a lot of the things that

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Speaker 1: said was going to happen didn't happen. I wrote a

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Speaker 1: book about Nostrodamus a few years ago at the prompting

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Speaker 1: of my good friend Mitch Horowitz. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: who you mentioned earlier, And that's the same thing about

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Speaker 1: Nostrodamus's prophecies. They were either extremely vague or are a

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Speaker 1: few very specific things he predicted for the most parts,

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Speaker 1: some hasn't come true. So no, I don't believe in prophecy.

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Speaker 1: And that's why. Is it because the prophets are always wrong?

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Speaker 1: Or what is it? Well, they're not right enough? Have

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Speaker 1: you put any faith in them? So when someone says prophecy, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. There's so many prophecies it turned out

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Speaker 1: to be wrong. I don't have any particular reasons take

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Speaker 1: them seriously. If they were one hundred percent wrong, you

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Speaker 1: could almost believe in the opposite, but even a hundred

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Speaker 1: percent wrong. So, um, no, we don't understand the future

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Speaker 1: well enough. And we understand the future well enough as

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Speaker 1: human beings. Do you have set by it? Because you know,

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Speaker 1: your dog doesn't really know too much about the future

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Speaker 1: except in the very very very primitive sense. My dog

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Speaker 1: is so smarter than that, So I'm not putting your

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Speaker 1: dog down. We can kind of foresee the future, and

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Speaker 1: we know two things about the future. Part of it

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Speaker 1: is that the future does kind of go on some

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Speaker 1: kind of line of trends that we can see happening now.

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Speaker 1: And there are these disruptions, these sudden things, these catastrophes

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Speaker 1: that come out of nowhere. We know that about that. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you go about future ology, you know, economic prediction

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Speaker 1: and forecasts and Whatnotum, all they do is they just say, well,

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Speaker 1: with current trends continue, x, y and Z will happen,

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Speaker 1: except of course they know that current trends don't continue.

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Speaker 1: There are these dislocations. Now. The other side is the

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Speaker 1: prophet who predicts these dislocations. And it's all about these dislocations.

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Speaker 1: I was reading today about Antonio confer On in mad

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Speaker 1: fascinating story. But um, you know, these are pretty well

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Speaker 1: struck me remarkably like some of nostronomysist prophecies. By the way, Well,

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Speaker 1: in prophecy. Interesting, there seems to be a lot of

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Speaker 1: for that? Well, let's go back to theology, which is,

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Speaker 1: after all, one of the things my book is about.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back. Let's let's let's take the Book of

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Speaker 1: Genesis even somewhat literally. Okay, let's cast in this one.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you put it in the form of story.

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Speaker 1: This man and this woman went to God one day

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Speaker 1: and they said, hey, Lord, we heard that there's this

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Speaker 1: and God said, no, I really don't suggest you do that.

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Speaker 1: God said, all right, well if you really want to,

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Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to descend into a realm where

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to work hard for a living, and

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Speaker 1: So we got it. And I'm going to say one

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Speaker 1: and everybody else who's listening to this. You have known

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Speaker 1: Oh what is the answer. Everybody's off the hook. You're

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