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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. DJ Rhett

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Speaker 2: with you here today, Buck. We'll be back tomorrow. Rhett.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's a full NFL slate to recap, but

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Speaker 2: I do want to get your thoughts before we jump

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Speaker 2: into the NFL. Stuff plenty to get to there. A.

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Speaker 2: Did notre Dame just break another tackle? And b how

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Speaker 2: are you? How are you doing today? How are we feeling?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: I am doing a lot more defending of the rock

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Speaker 1: than I feel like I wanted to do it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, wait, hang on, hang on, hang on a second here.

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Speaker 3: Oh my bad.

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Speaker 1: I thought I heard fine Bomb and I thought I

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Speaker 1: heard Lane Kiffin and all the SEC supporters again, but

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't.

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Speaker 1: It was just after the Tennessee gotmash. She's pretty silent

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Speaker 1: over there. Did you know that Vanderbilt, Oklahoma and Kentucky

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Speaker 1: should have made.

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Speaker 3: The College Football Playoff?

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Speaker 1: By everyone else's logic, they had a couple of good wins,

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Speaker 1: the big wins, so wins got put him in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that. Well, at some point

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Speaker 2: in time, like winning games is important I don't. I

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Speaker 2: hope we don't ever get to the point where winning

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Speaker 2: games doesn't matter. That's another topic for today. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to the college stuff. We've got plenty NFL stuff to

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Speaker 2: jump into. So let's let's dig in here. First game,

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Speaker 2: Let's go Philly Washington, a game that you know, Look,

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Speaker 2: look at it from the Philly side and say, hey, look,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts doesn't get hurt. We're on our way to

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Speaker 2: score in fifty points and we're still in the mix

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Speaker 2: here for the number one overall, see nothing to worry

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Speaker 2: about here. Or you could take the Washington side of it,

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Speaker 2: which is just sheer joy and excitement knowing what you

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Speaker 2: back again overcoming all the turnovers. To me, the word

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Speaker 2: that just keeps coming back to me. You can talk

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Speaker 2: it's just poise, Like in these big moments, he's got

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Speaker 1: Right there on that run, there were so many of

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Speaker 2: No, well designed, well executed, I would say, on the

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Speaker 1: But the other part of it was like they had

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't worry about that going going forward. So to me,

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Speaker 2: time and time again this year where they've they've shown

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Speaker 2: what's so rare and what's so exciting. So I think

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Speaker 2: It was like the Lions against the Texans on that

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Speaker 2: what was a night game, a primetime game. A few

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Speaker 2: weeks back, yeah, all right, how about let's stay with

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Speaker 2: now as they defeat the Chicago Bears in a ball game.

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Speaker 2: They were in control of thirty four to seventeen franchise record.

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Speaker 2: the Lions and where they're situated. But this we talked

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's you know, especially if you can separate, right,

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Speaker 1: if you're am bearrass fan, you could separate the wins

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Speaker 3: So I mean there's there's big time that was older.

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Speaker 2: I was left encouraged. I was left encouraging. And by

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Speaker 2: that Ben Johnson was intrigued, I believe was the word. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I think we could also agree that with kleb

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Speaker 1: it needs to be one two run, not one two, three, four, five, six, seven.

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Speaker 2: Eight, nine, No, no, and not and not one to

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Speaker 2: The and it's the same issue that it's the DKA

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Speaker 2: give me more Justin Jefferson in the backfield, please, I

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Speaker 2: when they had those good teams in Tennessee, it felt

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Speaker 2: like maybe Dereck Henry, even if the yards were there,

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Speaker 2: just he looked a little bit heavy legged, like the

435
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Speaker 2: toll of the season had kind of started to catch

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Speaker 2: up with him a little bit. He looked fresh as

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Speaker 2: a daisy. How many yards of ten plus runs did

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Speaker 2: he have in this game? It just felt like every

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Speaker 2: other runs alosive run. Yeah, he just looked, he looked,

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Speaker 2: he looked. Maybe it's the hair, I don't know. He

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Speaker 2: just looked fresh. He looked very fresh in this ballgame.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with you on that.

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Speaker 1: One other thing, I was curious if if you kind

444
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Speaker 1: of caught caught window of like the the coaches box

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Speaker 1: camera on Todd Monkin. I don't know that they're going

446
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Speaker 1: to be a fan of that one moving did you

447
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Speaker 1: see Have you seen all the breathing with it? Oh

448
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Speaker 1: my gosh, he's going nuts on one of these plays.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember if it was the interception that Lamar

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Speaker 1: threw or if it was just a big play that

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Speaker 1: they missed. And I think he was saying something about

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Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman, like what is.

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Speaker 3: He doing what is he doing?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: You could just you can feel the anxiety right that

456
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Speaker 1: just courses through a play callers, you know, veins throughout

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Speaker 1: those three and a half hours of a game.

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Speaker 3: Man, it is I have to start.

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Speaker 2: You can start being in the in the booth with

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Speaker 2: your with your play sheet over it.

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Speaker 1: I know, I think seriously, I'm curious, man, you know,

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Speaker 1: more of that moving forward here. But yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: they look they got to win, but I think they

464
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Speaker 1: left some stuff out there on the table on the

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Speaker 1: offensive side. I don't know that this was the cleanest

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Speaker 1: game we've seen Lamar play.

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Speaker 2: But again enough, yeah, man, I keep an eye on

468
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Speaker 2: this division because it looks like we'll see how the

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Speaker 2: Chargers season unfolds. But that's looking like the winner of

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Speaker 2: this division likely to be the three seed the Chargers

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Speaker 2: if everything kind of goes, you know, with them finishing

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Speaker 2: up with New England and the Raiders, there's a chance

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Speaker 2: even after this next week that they could be locked

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Speaker 2: into the sixth seed. So that would be a rematch

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Speaker 2: either way. Chargers lost to both of those teams in

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Speaker 2: close games, so that could be where my travels take

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Speaker 2: me here as we go towards the postseason. Speaking of postseason,

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Speaker 2: there Houston, Kansas City. Kansas City, just ho hum this one.

479
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Speaker 2: I actually had a little breathing room for you know

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Speaker 2: what that's worth. They don't have many of those. I

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Speaker 2: tweeted out as Houston had a chance with the ball

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Speaker 2: in their hands, I think they were down eight, you know,

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Speaker 2: seven or eight? Yeah, they were down eight late in

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Speaker 2: this ball game, weren't they.

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Speaker 1: And then the score is twenty seven to nineteen. That's

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Speaker 1: why it was in one possession.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that'shy I was throwing me off. But I'm

488
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Speaker 2: watching this. I'm watching this game, and I'm staring at it, going, oh,

489
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Speaker 2: this is the most predictable thing ever. You're going to see.

490
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Speaker 2: Houston's going to go down, They're going to score, They're

491
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Speaker 2: going to get the two point conversion. Just to give

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Speaker 2: them that glimmer of hope, they'll leave a minute thirty

493
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Speaker 2: for Mahomes. Mahomes will go down and they'll get they'll

494
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Speaker 2: win the game. It'll feature a Mahomes scramble, which all

495
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Speaker 2: those game winning drives they altered at some point in time.

496
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Speaker 2: This one went off script. And one of the reasons

497
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Speaker 2: that went off script is because as great as as

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Speaker 2: great as Mahomes is. Man, if you look at the

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Speaker 2: recent iteration of this team, I'm telling you, man, Chris

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Speaker 2: Jones what he does and the impact he has every

501
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Speaker 2: single game, every single week, there's a reason why their

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Speaker 2: defense is doing what they're doing and spags with the

503
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Speaker 2: great design. They have a lot of really really good

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Speaker 2: football players. I'll put McDuffie in that great category. But

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Speaker 2: there's one Hall of Famer on that side. That's Chris Jones.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna argue with that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that is for sure a big piece

508
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Speaker 1: of this storyline here really in the last two to

509
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Speaker 1: three years for the Chiefs is him elevating and that

510
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Speaker 1: defense elevating to become a reason why they win, uh

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Speaker 1: and not a reason why they lose. And so that's

512
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Speaker 1: obviously been a part of it. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: think you know you're throwing George Carloftis in there too.

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Speaker 3: And again we've talked about.

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Speaker 1: The ways that they have drafted for what they want

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Speaker 1: to do on the defensive side of the ball, and

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Speaker 1: that is such a homegrown defense from from Chris Jones

518
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Speaker 1: to Carloftis to Nick Bolton to the guys in the

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Speaker 1: back end where they've hit on. It feels like almost

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Speaker 1: every time, even you know, you lose Lugerius Snead and

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Speaker 1: you're still finding ways, you know, because of the competitive.

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Speaker 2: Depth that Josh Williams had a big game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so credit again to to Veitch and Andy and

524
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Speaker 1: that whole personnel crew and in the way that they've

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Speaker 1: found ways to, you know, to really spend the big money,

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Speaker 1: you know, on Chris Jones and then find ways to

527
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Speaker 1: fill in right with with the draft, and that's that's

528
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Speaker 1: been huge and they'll have to pay some of these

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Speaker 1: guys here moving forward.

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Speaker 3: But I did want to talk a little bit about.

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Speaker 2: Opposite of the reck you wall for Xavier Worthy, you know,

532
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Speaker 2: like he's putting eight on the gas now instead of

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Speaker 2: slowing down.

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Speaker 1: It's exactly right. And this is what we saw from

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Speaker 1: Rashid Rice last year. You remember how he came through

536
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Speaker 1: UH and really started to take off in the second

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Speaker 1: half of the season. And so for Worthy, he was

538
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Speaker 1: busy man eleven targets, seven catches. I thought they were

539
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Speaker 1: really you know, it wasn't just like, oh hey, let's

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Speaker 1: throw a little gadget at him here. With Worthy, it

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Speaker 1: was like they wanted to make him a big part

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Speaker 1: of the game plan. And look, most of them are

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Speaker 1: still you know, at the line of scrimmage or behind

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. But I think the biggest development,

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Speaker 1: and I think we've talked about this a few times

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Speaker 1: on the show earlier this season. I can't remember whether

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Speaker 1: it was this year or whether it's really come in

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Speaker 1: in the last you know, two or three years. But man,

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Speaker 1: when you get that, now throw to a player like Worthy,

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Speaker 1: but you got lead blockers out in front, like just

551
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Speaker 1: to get rid of the most dangerous man that is deadly,

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Speaker 1: And they did on one of those plays.

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Speaker 3: I think it was only like a fifteen yard game,

554
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Speaker 3: but they.

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Speaker 1: Basically took Houston's best defensive player, Will Anderson out of

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Speaker 1: the mix. With the backfield action going one way, Worthy

557
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Speaker 1: coming in motion the other way, and then two offensive

558
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Speaker 1: linemen leading him out in front. Like Will Anderson couldn't

559
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Speaker 1: do it. He didn't know what to do. You know,

560
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Speaker 1: It's like, do I crash down with the run? Do

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Speaker 1: I try to deal with and then he's just sitting

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Speaker 1: there and no man's land, And so you've eliminated with

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Speaker 1: action one guy, probably their best guy, and then you've

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Speaker 1: got two guys out in front for Worthy. They did

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Speaker 1: that a number of times, and he had a couple

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Speaker 1: like a slant route or you know, man.

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Speaker 3: If he's also like DJ if you are.

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Speaker 1: If he's in the slot and you are a slot

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Speaker 1: defender with inside leverage, it's over. If he runs the

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Speaker 1: album like you are not nobody's But if you play

571
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Speaker 1: outside leverage, they're gonna run mesh and they're gonna make

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Speaker 1: you weave through all that traffic.

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Speaker 2: I've seen it. I've seen a bunch of it both

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Speaker 2: ways this year. The other thing is I'll just add

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Speaker 2: is let's give Joe Toney some flowers for kicking out

576
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Speaker 2: to left tackle and solving what was their achilles heel.

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Speaker 2: And it goes to the theory of the best five theory.

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Speaker 2: I've always stated that, and I think we're on the

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Speaker 2: same page there, which is the versatil. The offensive lineman

580
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Speaker 2: is huge because injuries are coming. If they aren't there

581
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Speaker 2: right now, they're coming tomorrow. And the ability to have

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Speaker 2: guys who can play multiple positions allows you to get

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Speaker 2: your best five on the field. And also, Wyye Morris,

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Speaker 2: as dreadful as he's been at left tackle, was serviceable

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Speaker 2: at right tackle. Where he's more comfortable. So, uh, Joe

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Speaker 2: Toney's ability to kick out, it's what he did in college.

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Speaker 2: But having guys that can, are we going to make

588
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Speaker 2: it very bad? Are We're just gonna make him left

589
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Speaker 2: tackle now for the rest of this point? Just make

590
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Speaker 2: him a left tackle for the rest of this year.

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Speaker 2: I am. He's better in DJ Humphries if he you know,

592
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Speaker 2: with his injuries situation, if he comes back, I don't

593
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Speaker 2: know what his how long the timeline is there, but

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Speaker 2: Joe Toney is better than him, So uh interesting to

595
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Speaker 2: see how that's all come together for them along the

596
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Speaker 2: offensive line.

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Speaker 3: H are all right?

598
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Speaker 2: Two NFL Christmas Day games will be live on Netflix

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Speaker 2: December twenty fifth, starting at one pm Eastern. That's the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs taking on the Pittsburgh Steelers, followed by the Baltimore

601
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Speaker 2: Ravens and the Houston Texans at four point thirty pm Eastern.

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Speaker 2: Do not miss it all right, Right, this one was

603
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: a head scratcher to me. Uh didn't see this coming.

604
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Speaker 2: And that is the Dallas Cowboys beating the Bucks twenty

605
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Speaker 2: six to twenty four. I had just seen the Bucks

606
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Speaker 2: and I was like, holy crud, this offense is is

607
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: dial game right now. It's a very interesting team and

608
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Speaker 2: with their defense with Todd Bowles as aggressive as they are,

609
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: and some of the matchups that they give you up front,

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Speaker 2: mainly Vita Vea, It's like, I don't know if you

611
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Speaker 2: want to play this team in the postseason and you

612
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: flip around one week later, and I don't know that

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Speaker 2: the postseasons, you know, given that's how quickly things can

614
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 2: turn in the NFL. But what a win for coach

615
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Speaker 2: McCarthy and the Dallas Cowboys twenty six to twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Man, you know they're eliminated too, you know, going into

617
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Speaker 1: this thing, and it's I just think it's it is

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Speaker 1: really us of, you know, for a group of guys

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Speaker 1: and a coaching staff that has been as maligned as

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Speaker 1: any in the in the league this year to come

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Speaker 1: out and have that kind of effort against a team that.

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Speaker 3: Is fighting for everything right in the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: And look, ultimately, I think for the Bucks, you know,

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Speaker 1: it just they kick started too late, you know, I mean,

625
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Speaker 1: this was they just didn't have it going early. And

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Speaker 1: you know, credit the guys that have stepped in on

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Speaker 1: Dallas's defense. I mean, like you heard Chris Collinsworth and

628
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: Tarico gushing over Jordan Lewis, you know, throughout the broadcast,

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Speaker 1: and rightly so. I mean, do played a heck of

630
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Speaker 1: a game, including that strip. Oh actually I don't know

631
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Speaker 1: think that was him on the strip at the end,

632
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Speaker 1: but I'm thinking I had every belief, you know, the

633
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Speaker 1: way that the Bucks had been playing going into this

634
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: game and then the way that they came alive late,

635
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: that they were going to go down and win that game.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, Baker makes this incredible play to

637
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Speaker 1: get free and like just dragging a defender with him,

638
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: gets it out to Rashad White. You know they're gonna

639
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Speaker 1: and then now the stride is gonna be off and running.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have all this momentum and confidence, and bang

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Speaker 1: he gets that thing stripped out. I just thought that defense,

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Speaker 1: with all the injuries they've had, man just played really

643
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: inspired ball. And I think that says a lot about

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Speaker 1: the way that their coaches get them rolling. And look

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Speaker 1: the personal pride that they have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, Deron Bland ripped that thing out. So it

647
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: was right time place. Yeah, and the secondary for the

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys a couple of things. I was just looking

649
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Speaker 2: at it for next year. And what does the offseason

650
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Speaker 2: look like with the Dallas Cowboys. And if you're the

651
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Speaker 2: head coach, you know the two people you want in

652
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Speaker 2: your corner more than anybody else. Number one is the

653
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Speaker 2: owner and number two is the quarterback. And I think

654
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: he's This game went a long way to show the

655
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Speaker 2: owner that the team has not quit on you. You

656
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: have your twelve win seasons that you can sell, you

657
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: have your Super Bowl ring with Green Bay that you

658
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: can sell, and you have a limited coaching market where

659
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of hot candidates, So that's going

660
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: to help you on the coach side of things. In

661
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: the quarterback, you already had Dak Prescott's already endorsed him.

662
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Speaker 2: So I don't know, that game to me could have

663
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: been a uh maybe I won't say job savor because

664
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Speaker 2: I would assume that it was gone, but it might

665
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Speaker 2: have been a job stealer, you know, Like just I

666
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Speaker 2: don't I don't see a change coming there. Maybe you

667
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: get make some staff changes, but that's I don't see

668
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: that happening.

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Speaker 1: That's fair, But I mean I do not think that

670
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Speaker 1: that is I just have a hard time believing that's

671
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Speaker 1: gonna go over very well.

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Speaker 3: Not like that actually matters in the grand scheme of things.

673
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Speaker 2: Jerry Jerry hasn't been a splash guy. That's like the

674
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Speaker 2: most misinterpreted thing. I mean, look at like free agency

675
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Speaker 2: and big splash stuff and hiring the sexy coach, Like

676
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Speaker 2: look at all the coaches that he's hired, and look

677
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Speaker 2: at who are these you know, quote unquote prize free

678
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Speaker 2: agencies brought. You got to go back to the old

679
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: school nineties to find like that's when he was making

680
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Speaker 2: the bold moves. Like it was bold. It was Charles Haley,

681
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Speaker 2: it was Deon Sanders, Let's let's be bold, you know.

682
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Speaker 1: You know, like truly Williams was like the last like

683
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Speaker 1: really bold move, like a first and third round pick,

684
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Speaker 1: mitey Gallo Loy Williams.

685
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, those kind of things anymore. You know. The

686
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: The other thing that I think, you know, we need to.

687
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Speaker 1: Make sure we get out there is that, you know,

688
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: you have a big old hat tip to Cooper Rush,

689
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: like the job that he has done as QB two ditch,

690
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: like they they really have not missed a beat offensively.

691
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know that he's maybe not as dynamic

692
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Speaker 1: as Dak Prescott is, you know, in terms of you know,

693
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Speaker 1: maybe arm in some athleticism, but that dude knows how

694
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Speaker 1: to play within this offense, and he was. That guy

695
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Speaker 1: has earned the right to be one of the highest

696
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Speaker 1: paid backups in football, if not the highest paid.

697
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Speaker 2: They're a nice job. Let's get to a quarterback making

698
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: his starting debut, and that's Pennis Michael Pennock's Atlanta Falcons.

699
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: They hammer the lifeless New York Giants who are in

700
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Speaker 2: a great position to have the first overall pick in

701
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Speaker 2: this draft. Watched all the Pennock stuff this morning. Things

702
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: I love about him. His feet are in the ground.

703
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: The arm looks as live and as explosive as it

704
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Speaker 2: did at the University of Washington. He can reach all

705
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Speaker 2: the way out to the perimeter. The ball's got pace.

706
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Speaker 2: I mean you could just see it and watch him tape,

707
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: just the ball spind like he can't throw it. You know.

708
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: He has the interception, which has nothing to do with him.

709
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: I mean, that was one of the weirder interceptions you've

710
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: ever seen, where Pitts just throws the ball to the defense.

711
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Speaker 2: But I thought, you know, this is what he is.

712
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: He's a pure pocket passer with a huge arm that

713
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Speaker 2: I think protection is going to be big as much

714
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Speaker 2: as you like the weapons around him, you know, continue,

715
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Speaker 2: If I'm the Atlanta Falcons looking forward, I'm going to

716
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: continue every year invest invest, invest in the offensive line.

717
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: He's going to be able to make some stars out

718
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: of pass catchers because of his arm talent, but you

719
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: need to keep him in a nice nest back there.

720
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Speaker 2: And that's why I'm going to continue to invest in

721
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: that offensive line, which is already a good one.

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Speaker 3: It is, it is.

723
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Speaker 1: And the other thing I would say, though, even still,

724
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Speaker 1: I mean, he is probably you know, I don't know

725
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Speaker 1: what the best way to describe this is, but two

726
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: times the athlete that Kirk Cousins is or was at

727
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: this point, like he showed some escapability in there that

728
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Speaker 1: I don't think we'd have seen from Kirk Cousins a

729
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: couple of different times. And so while yes, he's not

730
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Speaker 1: going to give you, Josh, I think he's going to

731
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: give you enough just to kind of move around a

732
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Speaker 1: little bit if he has to to get out there.

733
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Speaker 3: And man, it is it is.

734
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Speaker 1: It's just to me, it's like it's a beautiful thing

735
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: to watch the lefty throw it like and make it

736
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: it look that pretty with it you know, I think

737
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: a lot of times over the ball comes out of

738
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: the lefty's hand, it looks a little funky, but man,

739
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: his is such a pretty ball.

740
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: It is so easy to watch. And we just got

741
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 3: to get Kyle Pitts to hang on to the football

742
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Speaker 3: here a little bit.

743
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Speaker 2: We're talking about much better than no question, yea, a

744
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: couple of drops talk about. I know I'm not gonna

745
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: talk about the Giants, that's too depressing. But I was

746
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: watching Pennix on the heels of last weekend thinking about

747
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: my friend Rhett and going could have used him. He

748
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: used him at Notre Dame. Tell you that much.

749
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair.

750
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Speaker 2: Oh well, hey, best game. I'm coming off of a

751
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: losing season and app so I got nothing to say

752
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: there Rams Jets. The Rams just kind of slogged their

753
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: way to a win. Ugly game, but uh, you know

754
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: this is as you see the note there on the screen,

755
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: feer than ten points allowed in consecutive games for the

756
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: first time twenty fifteen. The Jets are kind of a mess,

757
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: but there are some good players over there, and the

758
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: Rams defense continues to play well.

759
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think again that that's a growth process, right,

760
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: you're talking about a first year coordinator in Chris Shula.

761
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 3: Now he's been there for for a while.

762
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Speaker 1: And imagine there's some there's some things that they're doing

763
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: that are certainly familiar going.

764
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Speaker 3: Back to years past.

765
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Speaker 1: But I think that they've come up with some big

766
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: games defensively. Like we talk a lot about the way

767
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: that the offense finds ways to win with Kyen Williams

768
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: and Cooper, Cooper, Cup and Pooka and Akua, but I

769
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: think that they have that that defense has come up huge.

770
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Speaker 1: Like I think about turnover on downs early in the

771
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: game watching this thing live, that that was huge that

772
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Speaker 1: allowed the Rams go down and score. I thought that

773
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Speaker 1: based off what we saw Aaron Rodgers, do you know

774
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 1: last week with Devonte Adams, I thought they challenged Rogers

775
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: in that pass game in.

776
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Speaker 3: A pretty good way.

777
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Speaker 1: I think a Kella Witherspoon made a couple of big

778
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: plays knocking some balls away, and well, this wasn't the

779
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: most prolific game we've seen from the Rams offense. This

780
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: is one you chalk up to the defense finding a

781
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: way to put them in position to win that game.

782
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 3: And sometimes you got to have those especially.

783
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: I want to give you I want to give you

784
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: one Jets thought and then and then we can keep

785
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: the train moving here. But I was just thinking about this.

786
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 2: You know, all the people that they're interviewing, Our buddy

787
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 2: Jim Naggy from the recent Senior Bowl interviewed there. Yeah,

788
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: I saw Lewis Riddicks's name mentioned Dimitrovs. They've already interviewed

789
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: a bunch of guys that are available right that are

790
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: available right now. So you know what that tells me

791
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: this is going to be an exhaustive search. And I

792
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: was just thinking about you know, there's the article that

793
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: comes out in the Athletic that just kind of trashes

794
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: the whole culture and organization there. So this next hire

795
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: for the Jets needs to be ah a confidence inducing

796
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: higher for their entire fan base and for the for

797
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: their entire organization. It needs to be something that brings credibility, right.

798
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 2: They need That's what they need more than anything else.

799
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: So if you're doing an.

800
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: EAGEH on the G really on both, but I would

801
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: say the GM side first and foremost right as someone

802
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: who's going to be the leader over the organization.

803
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: So I was sitting there thinking about it, going, Okay, well,

804
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: if you're going to be creative, and you're interviewing all

805
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: these people from all different areas, and you're going to

806
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 2: do an exhaustive search of the candidates once the season ends.

807
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 2: That are with other teams. We always talk about coach trades.

808
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: We've heard of, oh maybe McVeigh, maybe somebody will trade

809
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: a pick for Kyle Shanahan. You know we've seen that,

810
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 2: and we have seen coach trades in the past. I'm

811
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 2: just throwing this is no there's no information here, but

812
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: this is just like a thought that popped into my

813
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: head was if you're looking for credibility, Howie Roseman has

814
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: probably you know, the reputation of a top three general

815
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: manager in the NFL. I mean they're in the postseason

816
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: every year, he's won a Super Bowl, He's been to

817
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: another Super Bowl. How Roseman is from that area. I

818
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: have to double check that, but I believe so. But

819
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: that would be someone who would bring you instant credibility. Now,

820
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 2: why would Jeffrey Lourie ever let him leave? That's a

821
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: great question. But if you're going to be thorough, as

822
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 2: they're showing that they want to be thorough through this process,

823
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 2: and you're trying to recapture your reputation. Is that something

824
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: you would entertain it. If it's not how we maybe

825
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: it's somebody else.

826
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: You know.

827
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 2: First thing I would do is I would call Ozzie

828
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: Newsom and say name your price. You know, come out

829
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 2: of your semi retirement. I know you're still around the raven.

830
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 2: We need we need credibility. We need somebody to come

831
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: in here that know, our fans are not going to

832
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: question who can help us get the right coach in here,

833
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 2: figure out the quarterback situation and get us going. But

834
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Speaker 2: that that was my thought. If we talk about trades

835
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: with coaches, we never think about trades with general managers.

836
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Speaker 1: That's a good thought because the obviously the other route

837
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: is like and we've seen this, you know time and

838
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: time again, is you go find you know, the number

839
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Speaker 1: two behind you know some of the best gms, right,

840
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: you go find you know, when Joe Douglas you know,

841
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: left to go to the Jets, you know is obviously

842
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: highly regarded in Philly, or you know what what do

843
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: we have with with you know the underneath Rett Veach

844
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: in Kansas City trying to go find you know.

845
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: That next guy. But yeah, if you're the Jets and

846
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 3: you've got to gone that route.

847
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: Now, maybe you want to go get the guy instead

848
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: of the next guy's good.

849
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was just, yeah, I don't know, I

850
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: don't know what that would even look like, but I

851
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: was just thinking about that. Yeah, I don't know. That

852
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: was again. I just wanted to throw that out there,

853
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: put it out on the ether, and see if that's

854
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: not the craziest thing that you've ever heard. I don't know.

855
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens there. But the Rams, they're they're

856
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: in great They're in a great spot here as they

857
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: try and march towards the postseason. All right, This Saturday,

858
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863
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: required for NFL Plus. Time for a little rapid fire

864
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: here on the remaining games. Heret Cleveland, Cincinnati, the Joe

865
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: Burrow Express, Still live, Baby, still live.

866
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: And you don't want to see this team.

867
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: I know that that is a popular phrase right now

868
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: baseduff the fact that the Chargers beat the Broncos, which

869
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: allowed the Bengals in here.

870
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: They gotta win out. They got to hope for some help.

871
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: But man, when Joe Burrow is making throws like this

872
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: one here to T Higgins in which he is literally

873
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: on the ground, like an inch above the ground, making

874
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: a spot on throw to Tea, t Higgins said that

875
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: that was that was his favorite touchdown he's ever seen

876
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: Joe throw, and not because he was throwing it to him.

877
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: It's because he looked like Superman on the play, not Batman. Superman.

878
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: So that's what he's calling him from now on. That's

879
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: what he is.

880
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: He is Superman and this Bengals team and don't let

881
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: him in. They do not let that team into the tournament.

882
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: But I do miss for the Browns. We got to

883
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: get Jamis back in there, man, we got to get

884
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: It's just.

885
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: It's just more fun. That's a more watchable product for

886
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: both sides, you know, when he's out there. But I

887
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 2: was looking at that thinking, if you're a Bengals fan,

888
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: do you start like a GoFundMe and just like you're

889
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: getting just like some extra treatment, maybe some ice bats

890
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: for cars Wentz knowing that your season is going to

891
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: come down to Carson Wentz starting for the Kansas City

892
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: Chiefs against the Raiders in a game that you know,

893
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: I don't think the Raiders would necessarily be thrilled to

894
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: win that when it comes to draft position, but I

895
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 2: don't think you're going to see Patrick Mahomes, Kelsey and

896
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: Chris Jones and all the starters for the Chiefs if

897
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: they have their position locked up. That's all they're gonna

898
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 2: need because they played Denver. So you control your own destiny,

899
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: plus Carson Wentz, That's how I'm looking at it. With

900
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals, that's that gets them into the playoffs.

901
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 2: And then if you're Buffalo, congratulations, unbelievable year. You guys

902
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 2: are cooking, and now you've got to play against that

903
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: savage Joe Burrow in the first round of the playoffs.

904
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: Like what a reward? Yeah no, no, I don't want

905
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: that either New England and Buffalo. Speaking of Buffalo, this

906
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: game was close for a long time, I mean very close,

907
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: ends up just being a three point game. Drake May

908
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 2: was excellent, They got out the shoots. It was fourteen

909
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 2: to nothing in this ball game, they're moving the ball well,

910
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: Buffalo couldn't couldn't get it. Going to England's defense has been,

911
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: you know, playing well, but to me, Drake attacking like

912
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: not playing conservative. You know, when he gets matchups he

913
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: wants he's going to attack down the field, which was

914
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: fun to watch there. And I'm still looking at it

915
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: going like I don't know what all he hasn't around him,

916
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 2: Like you got Booty, You've got uh, You've got Hunter Henry.

917
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 2: I like Hunter as a solid player, but not great

918
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 2: up front yet. Ramondre Stevenson is a solid player, but

919
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 2: man Paul going to be This is gonna be fun

920
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: in New England if they get some pieces around him,

921
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: And where they're situated in the draft right now, they've

922
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 2: got a chance to get some big time pieces around.

923
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: Him, no doubt, especially considering where the quarterback. You know

924
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: how the quarterbacks fall, you know early on with the

925
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: teams that.

926
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 2: Are going to going to get the best non quarterback

927
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: in front. Yeah, how about Arizona Carolina? The fighting Bryce Young's.

928
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: Man patients patience is a virtue in this league with quarterbacks,

929
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: and credit credit certainly to what Dave Canalis has done there.

930
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: And I think we might look back on this, you know,

931
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: early on in the way that they approached Bryce, you know,

932
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: by pulling pulling it back a little bit and say,

933
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: all right, we got to take a step back here.

934
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: This is things are things are not happening the way

935
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: that you know. They're happening too fast for you. You're

936
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: not seeing it the way you need to be seeing it.

937
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: Let's pull it back here a little bit. Let's let's

938
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, essentially, let you settle down, and then we

939
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, he gets back into the line up, probably

940
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: not the way that they had thought he was gonna

941
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: get back into the line up with the injury, but man,

942
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: he has played so much better. And you know what

943
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: he did in this game, and he was running I

944
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: feel like we haven't seen him run like this, the

945
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: way that he ran in this game, and not because

946
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: like he had to, you know, like he was running

947
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: for his life. He did scramble here a couple of times,

948
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: but it was this was a much better product. And man,

949
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: did the Panthers have They accentuated what they have in

950
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: Chewba Hubbard and like that, He's like they got a

951
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: running they got their running back, they got their quarterback.

952
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: They need to go get those targets. I'd love to

953
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: see him get you know, maybe just David Sanders comes

954
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: back and shows up as a as a big time

955
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: tight end for him, but they got we get more

956
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: targets for him and more protection up front.

957
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're saying maybe Tyler warn there would look.

958
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 3: Fun a real nice spot for him right there.

959
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of those rare tight ends that's as

960
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: popular in the running back room as he is in

961
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: the quarterback room. Usually with tight ends the way it

962
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: is right now, very popular with quarterbacks, not so much

963
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: with running backs. He helps both. All right, San Francisco, Miami,

964
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: are you ready for the off season storyline of should

965
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: we or should we not pay Brock Party? Because it's coming?

966
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 2: Oh good?

967
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: I mean you got to right. I mean, like the

968
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: grass ain't always greener. On the other side, DJ, you're

969
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: six and nine, we're not going to get a top quarterback.

970
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: I mean, do we feel like we're gonna be able

971
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: to lure Sam Donald back here? Like?

972
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 3: Otherwise what are we doing?

973
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 4: Not?

974
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: They're going they're gonna sign Rock Party?

975
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah they are. And it's again it's someone who likes

976
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: Sam Donald who you just mentioned the support matters. There's

977
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: only a couple guys that it doesn't. It's you know,

978
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: so I think we need to set healthy bit of that, like, well,

979
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: you know, he's only good if he has this, this,

980
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: and this. Yeah, we'll go get this, this and this.

981
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: That's your job. Put those pieces around him. And he's

982
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: proven he can take you to the super Bowl. So

983
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: that's the challenge there. And I'm with you. I do

984
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: think he gets paid. I don't know that you're gonna

985
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: feel comfortable writing that check. You're probably not gonna love

986
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: writing that check. You're gonna write that check, Yes you are.

987
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: I'll be shocked if I'll be shocked if they don't.

988
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: But that was a game that kept the Miami Dolphins

989
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: alive at seven and eight, still ticking as we have

990
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: two weeks of the season left. I guess we can't

991
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: read too much into matchups that Coming off of a

992
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: Sunday nighter where the Cowboys showed a lot of fight

993
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 2: and knocked off the Tampa Bay Bucks, who had everything

994
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: to play for. This looks on the surface like a

995
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 2: game the Green Bay Packers as they welcome, and the

996
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 2: Saints should be in cruise control rat but the NFL's

997
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: taught us we can't assume anything.

998
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, looking the Saints are pulling out all the stops.

999
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: This is what I got for you on this game.

1000
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: The Saints quarterbacks, it sounds like I think Spencer Rattler's

1001
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: getting the start, are spending time in the freezer of

1002
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: the cafeteria on site. So I think they're gonna throw

1003
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: for three fifty tonight.

1004
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 3: That's right.

1005
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: Are they punching the are they punching the slab of

1006
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: meat in there? Like? What what are we doing inside

1007
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: that inside that freezer?

1008
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 3: It's a great question. Uh, probably just talking about how

1009
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: quick we can get out of here is what I

1010
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: would be what I would be thinking in that moment.

1011
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, look it's gonna be cold.

1012
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know it is, and you know

1013
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: for the Saints, look kind of playing out the string

1014
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 1: here down the stretch. But uh, you know, an opportunity, uh,

1015
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: you know to kind of find some good vibes and

1016
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: and watch some some young.

1017
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 3: Guys, you know, try to make some plays for them.

1018
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 3: But they got a lot of work to do this offseason.

1019
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: Can I can I call an audible instead of previewing

1020
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: the remainder of this ball game?

1021
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 3: Sure.

1022
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 2: Uh, so we have on the show here. If you've

1023
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: listened or watched the show for years, we've been in

1024
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 2: this over a decade.

1025
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: Uh.

1026
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 2: Someone who served the show for eight years of that

1027
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: has been the Bill, who's been our producer, who's put

1028
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: in a ton of work with us. Nobil is moving on,

1029
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: he's got a chance, he got a great opportunity, so

1030
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: he's going to uh this is going to be it

1031
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 2: for him. So this is our final day working with Nobil,

1032
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 2: who's been awesome, and we're excited for him and his

1033
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: new opportunity. So we wanted to wanted to get him something.

1034
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 2: He's our packer punk, right, we always joke with him

1035
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: about being the packer Homer. So we got him a

1036
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: We got him a little Jordan Love Jersey to uh

1037
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 2: to send him off with things. That's a little gift

1038
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: card as well, a little something extra there go get

1039
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: something to eat. But we do want to take the

1040
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: time here and and uh and thank the Bill for

1041
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: eight years that he's given to the pod and someone

1042
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: who's been selfless, who's worked long hours, you know, editing,

1043
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: helping us with getting topics together, coordinating everything. So UH

1044
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: just want to say a huge huge shout out, huge

1045
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: thanks to nobil. If you've there, he is with his

1046
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: Jordan Love jersey, so we can see you there.

1047
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: It is great hair on him.

1048
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got a great got a great head of hair.

1049
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: That's fantastic Jersey. He's not so if you sleep in

1050
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: that thing, if.

1051
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: You followed the pod for a long time, what you've

1052
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 2: been doing this a long time? Going to be reunited

1053
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: with Sully by the way, another former Move to six

1054
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 2: podcast producers.

1055
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, you know we put him in the Hall

1056
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 3: of Fame, don't we. You know we had great.

1057
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he's gonna be great ones here. Yeah, they

1058
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 2: all move on to bigger and better things. The Bill.

1059
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: You gonna give us some final words here before you

1060
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: before you leave on us.

1061
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: It's not go pack go. I don't want to hear it.

1062
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: What what are your final thoughts here in the bill

1063
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: on the final day? Here we have tears? Do we

1064
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: wake up a little misty eye today? What do we got?

1065
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 4: Well, I'm hoping a packer super Bowl. But you know,

1066
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 4: learned so much working with you guys, And this was

1067
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 4: the first podcast I used to listen to, so it's

1068
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 4: I've really grown my working with you guys, So I

1069
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 4: really appreciate you guys for everything.

1070
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: Look at that a little baby face. He was just

1071
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: a little baby face with no facial hair back in

1072
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: the day. Now he's a full grin bear. Look at

1073
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 2: that guy. It's a grizzled, a grizzled veteran. All right,

1074
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 2: the bill, uh, get back to work. We have one

1075
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 2: more show to do. Get back to work, shut it down,

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Speaker 2: all right? Any yeah, there you go. We love the

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Speaker 2: bil and and thank him for all the great work

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Speaker 2: that he's done here. Hope you guys have enjoyed this episode.

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Speaker 2: Again mentioned it buck. We'll be back tomorrow. We have

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Speaker 2: little rookie draft. Be on the lookout for that. We'll

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Speaker 2: see you right here on. Move the sticks.