1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: This show discusses cold case murders and the people who 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: spend their lives fighting for justice. We hope to raise 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: public awareness and invite witnesses to come forward with evidence 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: that could potentially be investigated by law enforcement. We also 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: remind listeners that everyone has pursued innocent until proven guilty 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: in a court of law, and that an arrest is 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: not a conviction. Nothing in the podcast is intended to 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: state or imply that anyone who has not been convicted 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: of a crime is guilty of any wrongdoing. It was 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: around six am on Thursday, October third, twenty twenty four, 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: when a black Mercedes SUV pulled up to a street 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: near Miami's Jackson Memorial Hospital and parked. The driver left 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: the car was still running. About an hour later, the 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: Miami Police Department Dispatch received a nine to one. 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: To one call. 16 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: The caller said he was walking near the hospital when 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: he saw a car. He noticed it was still on, 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: which he thought was odd. He looked inside and saw 19 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: a couple of things, a man half clothed and a 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: lot of blood, and that's when he called nine one 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: one police. An emergency personnel quickly arrived at the intersection 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: of northwest seventeenth Street and tenth Avenue, just a block 23 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: or so away from the emergency room. They approached the Mercedes. 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: Oh there, he is serious. 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: There's somebody in the back here. 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 4: Yo. 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:28,919 Speaker 3: Yo. 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: The man was in the trunk of the suv. He 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: was severely injured. The man was bleeding from a gunshot 30 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: wound to his head. He was barely alive. EMTs got 31 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: to work immediately, and the officer began to examine the 32 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: inside of the suv. 33 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: Hey, it looks like somebody drove him there. 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: Hey, okay, either shot. 35 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: Again as he breathed, But as the officer took in 36 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: the situation, something about it felt off. 37 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 5: Okay, there may be more to this, so dispatch, Dispatch 38 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 5: forty one cent over to the scene. 39 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: Hey, sorry, yeah, let me We don't know. 40 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like this guy was located in the 41 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: back of an suv. This didn't look like a car accident. 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: This looked intentional. 43 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: Don't reach inside here yet. Okay, this so looks like 44 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 3: it might be a crime scene. 45 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: Now from School of Humans and iHeart Podcasts, this is 46 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: Cold Case Files Miami. I'm your host Enrique Santos. As 47 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: Miami police worked to figure out what had happened in 48 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: that suv. An ambulance rushed the victim to the hospital. 49 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: He had been identified as Josse Manuel Garbajal Saldibar, but 50 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: that's not how most people knew him. Most people knew 51 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: him as El Tiger. El Tiger was a Cuban immigrant 52 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: and a popular Cuban reggaeton artist. Cuban reggaeton, which is 53 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: also known as kubatong, is huge in Miami, and El Tiger 54 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: was a major part of the scene, and so news 55 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: of his shootings spread quickly, as did the rumors that 56 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: he had over one hundred thousand dollars of gold on him, 57 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: that he had committed suicide, that he had been tortured. 58 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: Fans of El Tiger soon gathered outside the hospital hoping 59 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: for updates and good news, and the local news was 60 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: there as well. Tonight, there is an outpouring of support 61 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: and prayers for the singer's recovery. 62 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 5: Fans coming and going gathering outside Jackson Memorial Hospital waiting 63 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 5: for any update. I'm thirty seven year old Cuban regaton 64 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 5: artist Josseman Carva, known as El Tiger. 65 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 4: I'd never imagined that this case would garner so much attention, 66 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: not only from the media but from the local folks 67 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: here in South Florida, something that kind of took me 68 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 4: by surprise. 69 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: Many Morales is the chief of the Miami Police Department. 70 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 4: I have been with this great agency for thirty one years, 71 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 4: the last three and a half as as chief. 72 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: Chief Morales wasn't one of the initial responders when at 73 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: Tiger was found, but he was very aware of the situation. 74 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 4: Listen, when you see a serious assault or a serious battery, 75 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 4: a shooting victim that's looking critical but it's still fighting 76 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 4: and still you know, has a chance to survive, we 77 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 4: still handle it as if it was a homicide investigation. 78 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 4: At the point, all you have is a nine one 79 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: one call, you have the evidence on the scene, and 80 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 4: that's where the detectives kind of start piecing all this together. 81 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 4: So they begin to work the case. They begin to 82 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 4: talk to witnesses, they begin to pull forensic evidence. 83 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: Detectives soon concluded that the shooting didn't happen in the 84 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: car Tiger had been found in. Instead, someone had driven 85 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: it Tiger as he lay bleeding in the back of 86 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: the suv and left him there outside the hospital. Investigators 87 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: were able to trace at Tiger's steps the morning of 88 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: October third back to nearby Hialiah just north of Miami 89 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: International Airport. 90 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 4: It all started with being able to find out that 91 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: the incident took place in Hialeah. That was the breaking point, 92 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 4: right when we realized where the incident took place, and 93 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 4: then we were able to kind of follow it from there. 94 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 4: I think that's what broke the case wide open. 95 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: And a few days after the shooting, on October seventh, 96 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: Chief Morales gave a press conference. He had an update 97 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: to share as well as a request. 98 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 4: What we really wanted to do is get the public's 99 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 4: help in trying to locate an individual that is wanted 100 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 4: for questionings. 101 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: Chief Morales named this individual Damian Valdez Gayoso. 102 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: He is wanted in connection to this incident. 103 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 4: At this time, I'm not going to share any additional 104 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 4: details to protect the sanctity of the investigation, but we 105 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 4: definitely know that he has some information that we need. 106 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: In when speaking publicly, Morales had to walk a fine 107 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: line naming a person of interest without raising too much suspicion. 108 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: We're very careful knowing how passionate Tiger's fans are. Very 109 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 4: careful in the wording that I use when I asked 110 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 4: for the public's help, because I didn't want this to 111 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 4: become a case of vigilantialism. I didn't want anybody going 112 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 4: out there and taking justice into their own hands. 113 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: As Chief Morales made this appeal, El Tiger was still 114 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: in the hospital, desperately fighting for his life. But a 115 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: shot to the head is a hard thing to survive, 116 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: and on Thursday, October tenth, his team made a devastating 117 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: announcement on Instagram. El Tiger had died. He was thirty 118 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: seven years old. 119 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 4: Ultimately, he succumbed to his injuries and he passed away. 120 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: As police continued to look for Valleska Yoso, they were 121 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: able to piece together more of what happened in those 122 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: early morning hours of October third because they had gathered 123 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: a remarkable piece of evidence, video footage. The footage showed 124 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: a Tiger approaching the front door of a house in Hialeah. 125 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: He then knocked on the door and waited. Chief Morales 126 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: said there was an argument. Suddenly, there was a flash 127 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: of light, a shot, and tiger fell. Minutes later, a 128 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: man emerged from the house. He started dragging a tiger's 129 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: body across the yard. 130 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 4: He then, you know, was able to lift him up, 131 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 4: put him in the trunk of the car that he 132 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 4: was operating. From what we believe, he tried to take 133 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: him to the hospital. That's why the vehicle was abandoned 134 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 4: so close to Jacksonvimoyal Hospital. It appears he got cold 135 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 4: feet and then he just abandoned the vehicle and ultimately, 136 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 4: you know, we believe that he's the one that made 137 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 4: the nine one one call to have the officers locate 138 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 4: and rend their aid to a tiger. 139 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: The whole incident had been captured on a neighbor's security camera. 140 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: It is Homoso's clothes or even better than an eyewitness, right, 141 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 4: because there's something that is unbiased. You just play it 142 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 4: and you're looking at what's happening. Right, Sometimes you might 143 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 4: not have the right angle, and the angle does impact 144 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 4: a little bit of everything. But when you're looking at 145 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 4: the video, it just gives you an opportunity to better 146 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 4: piece the sequence of events of a crime scene. So 147 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 4: bureaugraphic evidence is fantastic when it comes to putting together 148 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 4: a specially a homicide or a violent crime case together. 149 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: Though the police hadn't yet publicly named the man who 150 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: had fired the gun at a tiger. They believed it 151 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: was Daman Valdeska Yoso. 152 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: The case has not gone to trial, so I cannot 153 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 4: get into a lot of the specifics because I don't 154 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 4: want to, you know, jeopardize the opportunity that the prosecution, 155 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 4: the Miami dated State Attorney's Office, is going to have 156 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 4: to success fully take this case in front of a 157 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 4: jury of his peers. But I heard that they were 158 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 4: friends at some point. They might have been even business associates. 159 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: It ultimately looks like. 160 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: They might have had a relationship that just turned sour 161 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 4: and led to this horrific incident. 162 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: The video evidence did seem damning. Still, MIAMIPD has to 163 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: be prepared for every argument that could be made to 164 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: poke holes in the case. 165 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 4: So you start looking at that point and then you 166 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 4: start eliminating any possible excuse. 167 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: Hey, that wasn't mean that I made the phone call. Okay, 168 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: we kind of eliminated that. No, the incident didn't take 169 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 3: place on my house. We eliminated that. 170 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 4: No, I wasn't the one who ultimately drove him and 171 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 4: put them in the truck. 172 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: Well, we eliminate that, right, So you. 173 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 4: Take that adversarial view and make sure that you eliminate 174 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 4: any possible alibi, any possible excuse. 175 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: But there was one important element missing to make an rest. 176 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: We needed to find Damien. 177 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 4: Once we kind of discovered that that Damien was a 178 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 4: person of interest, of building the evidence until we got 179 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: enough probable cause, and now you know, we put the 180 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: case together. 181 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: In late October, Daman Baldska Yoso was found and detained 182 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: in New York City. 183 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 4: With the help of the NYPD, we're able to take 184 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: him into custody and ultimately bring him back to South 185 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 4: Florida to face justice in Miami. 186 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: He was charged with first degree murder. 187 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 4: Case is sitting with the Miami Dade State Attorney's Office 188 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 4: waiting to go to trial. 189 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: Is a serious case. 190 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 4: The state attorney takes his due time putting the case together, 191 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 4: bringing all the evidence, uh making sure there's no wrinkles 192 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 4: in the case, and ultimately taking in front of a jerky. 193 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: As we've stated before, an arrest is an important step, 194 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: but it's not a conviction. For his part, dam Young 195 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: Baldska Yoso has pleaded not guilty. He claimed he acted 196 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: in self defense. The trial hearing is currently set for 197 00:10:54,000 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: later this fall. El Tiger's case is different from other 198 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: cases we've talked about this season. Unarrest came quickly, and 199 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: so far it seems like if there's a trial, it 200 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: will also come relatively quickly. The police were fortunate that 201 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: the security camera footage of the shooting existed, Otherwise who knows. 202 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: El Tiger's case could have gone cold to The case 203 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: is also different because I met El Tiger when I 204 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: interviewed him in May twenty twenty three on my morning 205 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: radio show. I liked how connected he was to his 206 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: roots in Cuba and how ambitious he was to make 207 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: a life for himself here in Miami. And I liked 208 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: his music. He was always very outspoken and passionate. Though 209 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know it Tiger well personally, I do know 210 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: someone who did. His former manager, Marisel Renosa, met A 211 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: Tiger in twenty nineteen, and the two connected immediately. Marcenne 212 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: saw an ambitious, outspoken and talented artist who'd been able 213 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: to make a name for himself outside the structure of 214 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: a more formalized music industry. He wanted to work with 215 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: him immediately. The next years saw Eltiger rise to success 216 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: with hit songs, collaborations with other popular musicians, and concerts 217 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: all over the world, but he also went through some 218 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: dark times. In twenty twenty, El Tiger's parents passed away 219 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: in Cuba, just days apart from one another. The Tiger 220 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: was heartbroken. He wasn't able to return to Cuba at 221 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: a time to attend their funerals. People who knew him 222 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: said this deeply affected him. It may have led to 223 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: him turning more to drugs and alcohol to cope with 224 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: the pain. In twenty twenty four, when he died, Liltiger 225 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: was arguably at the peak of his fame, and it's 226 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 1: hard not to wonder what else he might have accomplished 227 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: if he had more time. I wanted to talk to 228 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: Marcel because I wanted to hear more about the man 229 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: behind him, Tiger, and the impact his death had had, 230 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: both on Marcel and on a Tiger's many many fans. 231 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: I would love to hear more about you and your 232 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: interactions with him and Tiger. As Oose the artist, you 233 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: got to spend a lot more time with him, obviously 234 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: than I didn't know him, a lot better than the 235 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: majority of us. Could you tell us what your favorite 236 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: things were about him? 237 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: He was a top of Paerson that you didn't know him. 238 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: He will sit down with you for like an hour 239 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: and he's fulling in love with this guy. It's like, 240 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: this is crazy. You know. He will give you a 241 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: hug that will be falling and he will be like, 242 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: don't even worry about it. There's a solution for everything. 243 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: And that piece of mind, the assurance that he always gave, uh, 244 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: you know, like the kind of move babey. You know, 245 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: in a way I'm not saying this he will was perfect. 246 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 2: Obviously he did our you know, and all things that 247 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 2: I'm considered that right. But I did tell him about it, 248 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 2: you know, I told you, look, I disagree with this. 249 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 2: I was very open, uh, And we will fight about it. 250 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: You know, we'll fight about it. But at the end 251 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 2: of the day, he just told me, you know, it 252 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: will be okay. He'll push us to make more money, 253 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: like look at the bigger picture. So he was actively 254 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: wanted to better on myself, believe. 255 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: It or not. 256 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: You know, you speak about that. You tried to help 257 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: him out and to and to do better. There's a 258 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: lot of comments about a possible drug issue or dependency 259 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: that and Tiger unfortunately had how much did he struggle 260 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: with that. 261 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I think a lot of people underestimate depression 262 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: and drugs. We see it on the on the news 263 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: saying all the drugs, but into you don't see I 264 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: lost one next to you going through that obviously, the drugs, 265 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: losing his mom, losing his dad, it must be, you know, 266 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: must be horrible. I can't even think about I'm not 267 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: even ready for my parents. You know, I'm a mom 268 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: and dad, and I spent every time I came with them, 269 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: So I can only be understand his frustration be in 270 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: the States and not be able to go back to 271 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: Cuba and then your parents passing away, not to me, 272 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: just you know, uh. And I think it's you know, 273 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: he struggled for that. The drugs kind of MAGNI five 274 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: pretty much. He was trying to escape. Miami is a 275 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: very addicting city. It's like a free for all double thing, 276 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: you know. And I think a lot of people said 277 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: that Miami does belong to the States and just a 278 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: different vibe, and I think kind of target took advantage 279 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: of that, going to every place, knowing everybody going to 280 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: a club, you don't have to pay for anything, that 281 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: be a p experience. You know, it's a good adrenaline 282 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna lie. So I think he enjoyed that, 283 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: you know or not. 284 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: This is something that was very new to him, especially 285 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: to any artist that's fleeing a communist country that's controlled, 286 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: that doesn't have a lot of these things that you're describing, 287 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you come to a 288 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: capitalist country, arrive in the United States, and you have 289 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: everything and anything practically that you want at your fingertips. 290 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: It's very easy. Especially in a very high sexy city 291 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: like Miami. They get sucked into the nightclub scene and 292 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: to the girls, and to the drugs, into the alcohol. 293 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: You know, end up consuming you if you don't know 294 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: how to consume it exactly. So did he talk at 295 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: all with you about what his plans for Cuba? How 296 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: much he missed Cuba? Oh yeah, one hundred percent. That 297 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: was when in September we're doing a tour over there. 298 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: I think we're in Cuba for like two weeks. 299 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: In Cuba. Man, he's like God over there. He told me, 300 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: you have to go to Cuba with me. Oh no, no, 301 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: you have to go to Cuba with me. It's a 302 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: different experience. It was another Cuba's not gonna lie, but 303 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: we're in the pool and then the tolos and he 304 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: told me like this is life well with here making 305 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: plans you know, for the future. But you can see 306 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: the piece in him because and the love that he 307 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: had for the for the country. But again he will 308 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: focus more on the people, his kids. All the kids 309 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: were in that time there, and every time will go there, 310 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: he will take here of the kids. That's one thing 311 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: he never missed. He booked them a separate room for 312 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: the whole two weeks pretty much with the kids, so 313 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 2: he won't to spend that much time as he came 314 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: with the kids. Basically when the time that he was there. 315 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: What were his plans for the future. I'm just curious. 316 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: What did he share with you where he wanted to 317 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: take his music, where he saw his music growing too. 318 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely international. I think many worked for him because 319 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 2: everybody wants to be obviously famous to a point until 320 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: you get there. And I actually actually one time that question, 321 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: like I'm. 322 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: Like, do you do you do you like music? Are 323 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: you doing this for the money? 324 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: Are you doing this? 325 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 3: No? No? 326 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: I actually you know I enjoy what I do obviously 327 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 2: what he likes the money, but he enjoyed what he does, 328 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: and I think that's what made him maybe progress a 329 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 2: little faster, because you got to find that right combination 330 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: with doing what you love and at the same time, 331 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: you know, kind of pays. And I think that's the 332 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: combination that's kind of hard to find nowadays. But he 333 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: definitely had those plans, you know, to go international. Unfortunately 334 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 2: obviously argued it happened, but definitely the plass was Therefore, 335 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: you know, we record more for international. 336 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: We need to take a break. But when we come back, 337 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: we'll hear from Marcel about the day of it, Tiger's death. 338 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm back here with Marcel Renosa, Tiger's former manager. Marcel 339 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: Where where were you? Where were you when you found 340 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: out he'd been shot? How did you find out he'd 341 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: been shot the night before? 342 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: I think around midnight. I was kind of already enough 343 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 2: feeling egos. Usually he will live for like a day, 344 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: so nobody bothers him. But de time, he took two days. 345 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 2: So I went told, you know, my wife, I'm like, hey, 346 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: I'm kind of worried, like he'll do and then he 347 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: on my car. So I was at even sleeping because 348 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: so the guy was driving a rental under my name 349 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 2: money at night, so that obviously I couldn't rest too much. 350 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: So at just sending a text at midnight eleven thirty. 351 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: I think I even published that text and I told him, am, I, 352 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: you know, hopefully every is good. Just want to tell 353 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: you I love you, and he replied back to me, 354 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: I love you with all my heart. And then around 355 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: nineteen am they called me with some rumors. I was 356 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: kind of panicking. I'm like, I didn't believe it. He 357 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 2: took his life. So then I ushed to the hospital. 358 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 2: I was kind of on first one. Actually I got there, 359 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: they didn't give you any information, so we said, we 360 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: know he's here, you know. So it was a whole 361 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: back and forth and then I saw like six attractives 362 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 2: and then that's the whole thing went down. You know, 363 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: we're gonna interrogate you. So imagine I was dealing with 364 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: not knowing his stage what happened. And then at the 365 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: same time the police being interrogated at the police station 366 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 2: at the City of Milly for like five six hours. 367 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, it was a very long day, very long 368 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 2: day in long weeks. You know, we didn't slept every day. 369 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: We went to be in the hospital morning night, two 370 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: or three am in the morning, you know, just hoping 371 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: for good news. 372 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: Basically, you mentioned some of the rumors that were first 373 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: spread on social media, and that's the first time I 374 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: heard about the news. There were rumors circulating on social 375 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: media that he committed suicide. We now know that that's 376 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: not the case. But I'm curious when you mentioned that 377 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: he would disappear for a couple of days. Where would 378 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: he disappear to He just needed time on his own 379 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: or yeah, I. 380 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 2: Needed time, and I respect to that, and I told 381 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: everybody his circle, just don't bother the guy. Just think 382 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 2: about it. His phone doesn't stop, Instagram doesn't stop. He's 383 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 2: just like messages up, the messages, so something. You got 384 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: to give him a break, and I kind of knew 385 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 2: how to deal with that for that time, not to 386 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: bother him. When it was a normal for him to 387 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 2: be going for like two days, but like once a week, 388 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: maybe once every two weeks, he will, you know, he 389 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: would just go off the radar. 390 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: What stressed him, what pressured him besides the his depressed state. 391 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: I think we could say, I would dare say after 392 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: his parents passing so suddenly and back to back. 393 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: I think the parents. I mean, if I'll get on 394 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 2: the shoes, I think that will be the stuff that 395 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: most got me sad. And when we talked one time, 396 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: like we have a lot of conversation about that, about 397 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: you know, his mom and you know, like obviously that 398 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: you know. But he will even start crying, and I 399 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: feel bad when I see crying. I think I'll start 400 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: crying too. It's just, you know, I just I just 401 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: threw this guy's pain. It's it's unbelievable, the money paying 402 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: that he went through, especially with U, with his family, 403 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 2: you know, losing everybody. 404 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: In one shot, you mentioned about fans and support, a 405 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: lot of fans camped out around the hospital, Jackson Memorial 406 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: Hospital where his where he was left and then where 407 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: he spent so many days in critical condition trying to 408 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: to recover. What was it like to see that support? 409 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 2: It was it was sad to have my sunglasses even nighttime. 410 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: It was. It's like this is in saying, I don't 411 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: think Holsey knew what he left behind into today. I 412 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 2: don't think it did. And hopefully seeing wherever he is, 413 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 2: but it's it's he's very sad when people singing songs, 414 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: everybody got in together. It was very impactful to say that. 415 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: My Baldeska also is accused of killing Cuban reggaeton artist 416 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: El Tigers, whose real name is ose Manuel. He is 417 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: pleaded not guilty. Prosecutors have decided not to seek the 418 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: death penalty, but could pursue a life sentence if he's convicted. 419 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the investigation, Marcelle, of what 420 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: you can share with us. Do you have any thoughts 421 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: on how the police responded and this investigation that's led 422 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: to the Myng Baldeska Also's arrest. 423 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 2: I think I think the police uh did the right 424 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: thing the guy quick. Honestly, I think though they will 425 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: ever gonna get him. When the guy disappear, I'm like, 426 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: oh man, I think the wars that could happen is 427 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: not get the guy because you might and now we're 428 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: not even gonna have a conclusion on this. You know, 429 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: it's gonna be like a never end in pain. So 430 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: the fact that they got him so quick, it's it's 431 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: it's great. I think they did a great job. A 432 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 2: lot of people criticize the city of Miami or I'm 433 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: the complete opposite attend the degrade. They kept every team 434 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 2: as much hitting as they can. Due to the leagues, 435 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 2: everybody's leaking misinformation all the time. So but I think 436 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 2: the police is the right thing, you know, the the guy. 437 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 2: They want to get the evidence. They want to actual 438 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 2: di am and they did. They want to get it right. 439 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: And that's what they state of training told me. You 440 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 2: know you cannot these cases. You can have messed it up. 441 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 2: You know, you cannot go based on emotion, go basing 442 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: your impulse. No, let's let's ask for their perenalty, you 443 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: know all this crazy stuff. You know, you want to 444 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: have a concrete case so the guy at least can 445 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: spend the resulte safe in prison. 446 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: How did it feel to know an arrest was made? 447 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: What went through your mind? 448 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 2: So when he got caught, Damien, we felt that relief. 449 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: I felt a relief. You know, at least we can 450 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 2: kind of turn that page when he gets convicted. Now now, 451 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: and it's gonna take us some time for him to 452 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 2: have his stay in course, but at least the attention 453 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: can deviate too other things, you know, to like his kids, 454 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: the children that he left to you. You know what's 455 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 2: gonna happen to them, was gonna happen to his music, 456 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. I think it's a relief, a 457 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: big relief, and to focus on what matters, which is 458 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: his music. I've been spoken about it. You know we're 459 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 2: gonna remember him for his music, don't. I don't want 460 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: this guy to get an attention like he took somebody's life, 461 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: and I don't think that should be the like the 462 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 2: main focus. 463 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 1: But the legacy, I think is what matter. His music, 464 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: his wisdom, anything else. You think it's importantly you like 465 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: to addmight I said, No, just his music. You know, 466 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: hopefully people don't forget about him. I mean that's the 467 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: main thing. You know, Tiger was. 468 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: You know, he was special, the way he improvised his music. 469 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: The guy didn't have just one hit. He was used 470 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: music after music. People will follow him and we can 471 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 2: learn from him. 472 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: Thank you what I said, Thank you for your time 473 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: and for sharing your memories of a Tiger with us, 474 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: and we know he is dearly missed and his memory 475 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: won't be forgotten. Thank you. In my interview with Marseille, 476 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: I was struck by something he said about the huge 477 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: relief he felt when a suspect in a Tiger's death 478 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: was arrested. This is something I've heard from other victims too, 479 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: how much an arrest means. Miami Police Chief Manni Morales 480 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: also talked about this. 481 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 4: I think not only this case, any case that involves 482 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 4: the known lawful take you of someone's life, and that's 483 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 4: the most egregious violation that we have in our society 484 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 4: right where our society rules and laws and life is 485 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 4: the most precious thing we have to have a family member, 486 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 4: a friend, or even a celebrity that is beloved by 487 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 4: his fan base. 488 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: It's the ultimate betrayal. 489 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 4: Man, if you had somebody that you know, somebody that 490 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 4: you love, get killed, you want that person that did 491 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 4: it held accountable. 492 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: Not being able to hold perpetrators accountable, this weighs on. 493 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 3: Him or an incredibly safe city. 494 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 4: But you know, I've always told my investigators that are 495 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 4: very important for us to make sure that we hold 496 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 4: those that will harmor community accountable for their actions. 497 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 3: And we might clear every case this year, we. 498 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 4: Might have list of clear the vast majority last year 499 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 4: and the year before that, but it hasn't always been 500 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 4: the case. And I can understand why folks would feel 501 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 4: that the police department hasn't done everything it can to 502 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 4: bring those responsible for that atrocious act to justice. But 503 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: I can assure you that every case that we get, 504 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 4: especially a homicide, we take. 505 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 3: That deeply service. 506 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: With technology, he hopes this may be more achievable. 507 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 4: We have a grant by the federal government to take 508 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 4: back a look with current technology that wasn't available back 509 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 4: in the seventies or eighties, to see we can bring 510 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 4: those folks to justice. And I can tell you I 511 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 4: think a lot of folks are going to be going 512 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 4: to jail pretty soon. I'm being held accountable for the 513 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 4: crimes that they thought they had gotten away back in 514 00:26:58,800 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 4: earlier decades. 515 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: It's this sense of purpose that drives Chief Moraleies and 516 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: his department every single day. 517 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 4: You cannot, as an officer, change what happened before you 518 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 4: got there. However, I can make a difference in the victims' lives. 519 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 4: We have a huge responsibility on our shoulders, and that's 520 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 4: what I love about being a cop. 521 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: As this season of Cold Case Files Miami wraps up, 522 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: the man arrested for Brian Raida's murder is still waiting 523 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: for trial. Laurence Webb's family is waiting for news of 524 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: her killer's appeal. The Sap family is still waiting for 525 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: any sort of information about who killed their beloved Joyce, 526 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: and Regina Talibert is still hoping someone will step up, 527 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: someone who saw something denied her seventeen year old daughter, 528 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 1: Nursia was shot and killed. These families have never stopped 529 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: hoping for answers, no matter how long it takes. Every 530 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: investigator we spoke with is also carrying the weight of 531 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,479 Speaker 1: these crimes. My wish, everyone's wish is that there are 532 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: no homicides to solve. But until that happens, I hope 533 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: this podcast is also a reminder that closure isn't a luxury, 534 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: it's a human need, and justice delayed doesn't have to 535 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: mean justice denied. In my city, Miami, I know we're 536 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: not perfect, but I've seen firsthand that there are prosecutors, chiefs, officers, 537 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: and community activists out here doing the work. I've seen 538 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: them care, I've seen them break down, and I've seen 539 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: them stand back up and keep fighting. It's in that 540 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: persistence that change is made. Because this podcast has also 541 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: shown me that healing doesn't only come from answers. Sometimes 542 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: it also comes from being heard from being seen or 543 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: from knowing your story hasn't been forgotten. Every one of 544 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: you listening has the power to help by sharing, by remembering, 545 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: by speaking up when you've seen something. Don't underestimate what 546 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: attention and awareness can do. I know. I'm grateful to 547 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: every single person who trusted us with their story, and 548 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: to every listener who made space in their heart and 549 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: mind to hear them. Thank you, and thank you for 550 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: joining me on this season of Cold Case Files Miami. 551 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: Cold Case Files Miami is a production of Iheart's Michael 552 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: Durda podcast Network and School of Humans. This show was 553 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: written and researched by Marisa Brown. Our lead producer is 554 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: josh than Ebili Sperees is our senior producer. Sound design 555 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: and mix by Jesse Niswanger, Fact checking by Savannah hugh Glee. 556 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: Our production manager is Daisy Church. Special thanks to Jula 557 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: Ramirez from my production team. Our iHeartRadio executive producers including 558 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: me Endrique Santros, carl Catel and Arlene Santana, and Virginia Prescott, 559 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: Brandon Barr, and Elsie Crowley from School of Humans. For 560 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: more podcasts, listen to the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or 561 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite shows,