1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: All right, third hour of Clay and Buck Hicks off 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: right now. Thanks for being here with us eight hundred 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: two A two two eight two on those phone lines. 6 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: Get some of your calls in the back of this hour. 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: We want to talk about what happened at the White 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: House with the Pride celebration and Clay at this is 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: going to go into this is going to be something 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: that's in your wheelhouse to analyze. We'll discuss what what 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: happened there because there was somebody who showed their their 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: boobs outside of the White House at a Pride celebration 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: and took a photo of it standing outside the White 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: House at an event where the our families, there were 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: children present. A trans influencer we'll get we'll get to 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: that in a second, but first I thought this was 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 2: just interesting. People often try to get a census, so 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: when we talk about the establishment GOP or the Unit 19 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: Party controlled opposition, these are terms that will come across 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: a lot. Sometimes we'll use them, but generally this is 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: something you'll see talked about online and a lot of 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: people in the GOP base, people who are based or 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: who know what time it is, or who understand what 24 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: is at stake in the country right now and what 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: the communists want to do to it. Also known as Democrats, 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 2: they get annoyed because they see things like this. Here 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: is you all remember Paul Ryan. Paul Ryan was Speaker 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: of the House. He was Mitt Romney's running mate. He 29 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: debated Joe Biden if you recall Clay and the VP debate, 30 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: which was interesting, and when he was running in twenty twelve, 31 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: and at a time when it seems, on the one hand, 32 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: we have trends, influencers flashing their boobs in front of 33 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: the White House, and there's all this enormous push for 34 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: trans issues all throughout and we all know we talk 35 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 2: about all the time. Here's that Paul ryans as a 36 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: GOP should be focused on play twenty eight. 37 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: Can I get your thoughts on that movement quickly? I 38 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: know we have to go. 39 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 4: But Republican lawmakers around the country are pushing legislation when it. 40 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: Comes to banning books. 41 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: It could be trans rts, call it anti woker, however 42 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: you want to label it, is that a good approach, 43 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 4: a good strategy or football fan is that the way 44 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 4: you should approach. 45 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a cultural work guy. 46 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 5: I think it's really polarizing look on some of these 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 5: issues outside, you know, with the anti woke crowd. But 48 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 5: to me, I'm worried about a deck crisis. I'm worried 49 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 5: about the future of our country in China. There are 50 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 5: big policy problems that we need to tackle if we 51 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 5: want to have a great twenty first century for this country. 52 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 5: My work at AEI notre to Aim, and my Poverty 53 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 5: Foundation is all about poverty upper mobility. What I'm worry 54 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 5: about are the big policy challenges that are going unresolved 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 5: or made worse by Joe Biden. 56 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: So that's why I want to win this election. 57 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: Okay, can I just call you a couple of I 58 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: want your reaction to this. But first off, whenever someone 59 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: says that they're if you are a Republican and you 60 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: are in this fight and you understand the stakes, when 61 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: someone says there are books being banned, you have to 62 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: say that is a lie, That is an obvious lie, 63 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: that is not reality. A kindergartener not getting a book 64 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: with pornography in it in his school curriculum is not 65 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: a book ban, all right, anymore? Than am I banned 66 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: from The New York Times. I'm not banned. They just 67 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: choose not to publish my editorials all the time. Clay, 68 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: But are are we banned? Why don't they just run 69 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: our transcripts? Are we banned? It's not a ban? And 70 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: then beyond that, he says, I'm not a culture war guy. 71 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: What is somebody? What does a Republican think? Where Republican 72 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: think is left? If we continue to lose on primary 73 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: culture war issues like these things are all tied together. 74 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: The notion that we're just going to tackle the debt crisis, 75 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: this can be super fired up. It gets me super 76 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: fired up. 77 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 6: And I think ultimately there are two ways to think 78 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 6: about politicians in general. Some politicians are almost exclusively story people. 79 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 7: I'll give you an example. 80 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 6: Tim Scott right now is a story politician. His story 81 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 6: is I grew up poor in South Carolina and I 82 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 6: have bootstrapped my way up to becoming a United States senator. 83 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 6: And I feel like my story is representative of the 84 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 6: American dream. 85 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 7: Okay, and I'm just paraphrasing. And then there are candidates. 86 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 6: Who are extreme policy guys. Right, an extreme policy candidate 87 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 6: would have been for instance, Mike Pompeo. Mike Pompeo would 88 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 6: have come in and he would have said, here's the 89 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 6: policies that I'm going to put in place. I would 90 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 6: say Ron DeSantis right now is more of a policy 91 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 6: candidate than he is a story candidate. Right, He'll tell 92 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 6: you he put out today. Hey, here's how I would 93 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 6: fix the Department of Justice, and here's how I would 94 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 6: remedy the issues the Attorney General. All those things very policy. 95 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 6: The most successful candidates, and Paul Ryan is a policy candidate, right. 96 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 6: The most successful candidates are able to twin story and policy, 97 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 6: and that's how you win. When you say I'm not 98 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 6: going to get involved in cultural issues, you are basically 99 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 6: saying I'm a big, fat loser, and I have no 100 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 6: respect for anyone who tries to do that, because what 101 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 6: they're trying to say then is I want everybody to 102 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 6: really like me when I walk into a New York 103 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 6: City cocktail party, because I don't want them to think 104 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 6: I'm anti trans because I'm focused on whether a dude 105 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 6: with a penis can become a women's champion. That's kind 106 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 6: of icky to me. I don't really want to talk 107 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 6: about that. I want to tell you why the corporate 108 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 6: tax rate needs to be twenty four percent instead of 109 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 6: twenty nine percent. 110 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 7: You're a loser. You're gonna get your ass kicked. 111 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 3: Now. 112 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 6: I love policy guys. If Paul Ryan wants to come 113 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 6: in and be my Treasury secretary and go with all 114 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 6: the nerds on Wall Street and argue about what tax 115 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 6: policy numbers should be, I have no issue with them 116 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 6: at all. But if you put a policy guy out there, 117 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 6: he gets run over. Like he's standing in front of 118 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 6: a bulldozer or a tank. 119 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 7: He gets flattened. That's how you lose. That's meant Romney. 120 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: Now. I actually think that this is helpful to Trump 121 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: in some ways because when Paul Ryan says, I'm not 122 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 2: a culture war guy, Let's talk about the debt and poverty, 123 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: which sounds like he's It sounds like something you would 124 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 2: hear from a think tank scholar who has no interest 125 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: in doing anything other than collecting the checks from his 126 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: sinecure and hiding right like, has no interest in actually 127 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: engaging YEA in the debates that matter for the country. 128 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 2: But then he also went on to say that we 129 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: will win as long as Trump is not the nominee. 130 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: Play twenty two. 131 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: He's got a great core support in a primary. 132 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 5: That is what you build off of, and so it 133 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 5: does matter. But my point is, I think the electability 134 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 5: argument is going to become more salient with this indictment, 135 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 5: and whatever happens in the future, all the exhaustion of 136 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 5: all the Trump baggage is going to make it easier now. 137 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 5: I think to make the argument to his core supporters 138 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 5: he's not electable. He's going to cost us the Senate again, 139 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 5: he's going to cost us more house, He'll cost us 140 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 5: the White House, and we want to win, and we 141 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 5: do want to win. So go look at what are 142 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 5: these other great conservatives that are in the race who 143 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 5: don't have all this baggage. 144 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: I think if we nominate Himity not named Donald Trump, 145 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: we're going to be Joe Biden. 146 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: We nominated anyone not named Trump. 147 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 6: Clay, I think that Paul Ryan attacking Donald Trump is 148 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 6: the best advertisement for Donald Trump. 149 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: This is my concern too. There are other people who 150 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: could make this case and maybe it would resonate in 151 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: some ways. But Paul Ryan saying we're going to tackle 152 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: the debt and we're going to focus on what is 153 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: that focus on China? What does that mean? I think 154 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: this is really an easy thing for people to sometimes 155 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: pivot to, Yeah, we're just gonna focus on China, or 156 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: we're not gonna buy Chinese stuff anymore. Think's gonna get 157 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: a lot more expensive for people in this country, Like, well, 158 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: what does that really even involve other than talking tough 159 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: about Taiwan defense once a year or something. 160 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, And to me, all these things are interconnected, right, 161 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 6: because you can't win unless you can point two issues. 162 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 6: We just had Nancy Mason, and I thought she was 163 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 6: really good, right. She used to be a waffle house waitress, 164 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 6: and she was talking about how literally the thing that 165 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 6: you have to do when you're a waffle house waitress 166 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 6: is talk to people from all different backgrounds the way 167 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 6: that you cut through noise. And I can't believe, Like 168 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 6: I can't believe. I just keep having to slam this 169 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 6: home over and over again because people like Paul Ryan 170 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 6: just don't get it. People understand when there is a 171 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 6: dude who is six foot three and he's wearing a 172 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 6: bathing suit where you can tell he has a penis, 173 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 6: and he becomes a women's champion and they raise his hand, 174 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 6: they recognize viscerally Buck, something is wrong right, And they 175 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 6: may not have the time because they got kids or 176 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 6: they got grandkids and they're running around busy all day long. 177 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 6: But it cuts through the noise and they're like, that's bs. 178 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 6: I don't know everything that I think about. I'm talking 179 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 6: like i'm these people. I don't know everything that I 180 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 6: think about tax policy, and I don't know everything that 181 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 6: I think about what my third grader should be getting 182 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 6: taught in school. But I know a dude, a man 183 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 6: with a penis is not the greatest women's athlete of 184 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 6: all time. So if you're not willing to have that fight, Buck, 185 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 6: then you aren't connecting with the people who are going 186 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 6: to make decisions in who's elected. 187 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: It also runs away from something that's clearly very important 188 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: to the Biden White House and to the Democrat Party overall, 189 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: a culture war. It's not like this is a one 190 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,479 Speaker 2: way fight. Correct If anything. 191 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 6: You don't if you get slapped in the face over 192 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 6: and over and over again and just pretend it isn't happening, 193 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 6: you're a wimp, and you get your ass kicked. 194 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: And and what happens is what we've seen now, I 195 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 2: mean the Biden Whitehouse, they had a an lgbt Q 196 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: plus at some level too. Having to just say an 197 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: acronym that long feels like it feels like I'm being serious. 198 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: It feels like a concession, like how many more letters 199 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: can we put on there? And oh, if you forget 200 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: a letter, you're being non inclusive, like can we just 201 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: come up with an acronym? Is supposed to make it easier, 202 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: not harder. That's the purpose of an acronym. You know, 203 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: I need to come up with a name for this 204 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: that makes sense that anyway, But the the the Biden 205 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: Whitehouse invited this Rose Montoya, who is a man that 206 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: has grown out hair and you know changed and gotten 207 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: you know, gotten breast augmentation, so has you know, fake 208 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: breast and as a man with with fake boobs who 209 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: was standing outside the White House and on video in 210 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: front of a Biden hosted event, decided to he just 211 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: this guy just pulls out his fake boobs and makes 212 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: a video of it and is like, yay Pride Month 213 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: or something. 214 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 7: Yeah. 215 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: And now you could say, oh, this is just one person, 216 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: but I mean, this is the These are the kind 217 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: of people that the Biden White House is inviting to 218 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: celebrate this isn't just a random person. This is an influencer, 219 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 2: a person who's meant to tell all the tell all 220 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: his followers about how great Joe Biden is and all 221 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: the rest of it. Right, but these are this is 222 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: the mentality who does that? Can you imagine a conservative 223 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: influencer under the you know, under any Republican president shows 224 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 2: up and is and is having First of all, it's 225 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: not even her boobs, it's his boobs. 226 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 7: The whole thing is crazy. 227 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: And now the Biden White House but it's like, oh, 228 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: you're being too harsh. Biden White House has condemned this. 229 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: This behavior is inappropriate and disrespectful for an event at 230 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: the White House, according to a spokesman, and is not 231 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: reflective of the event we hosted to celebrate lgbtq I 232 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: plus families or the other guests. There were kids there. 233 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 7: I mean, I think it actually is reflective. Buck. 234 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 6: And this goes to Will say, well, I don't know 235 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 6: why you're focused on trans drag shows. 236 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 7: Well, because kids are going and. 237 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: Because Biden's focused on trans all this stuff. 238 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: I get this. 239 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 7: This is the response to Paul Ryan. 240 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 6: He would say, well, I don't really care about trans directions, Okay, 241 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 6: would you care. And this is the argument that, by 242 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 6: the way, just steal this from me and take it and. 243 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: Run with it. 244 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 6: If you took buck, you don't have kids yet, I've 245 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 6: got kids. If I took my eight year old to 246 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 6: a strip club. If I took my eight year old 247 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 6: to a strip club, I would probably get charged with 248 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 6: a crime, justifiably. Right there are men out there listening 249 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 6: right now who have heard stories about dads who go 250 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 6: to strip clubs and leave their kids in the car 251 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 6: in the parking lot. This happens every now and then, 252 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 6: right dad goes into the strip club. Why does he 253 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 6: leave his kid in the parking lot because the kid 254 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 6: can't go into the strip club. Dad's not making good 255 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 6: decisions when he leaves his kid in the parking lot. 256 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 6: But we understand that children do not belong at strip clubs. 257 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 6: Why do children belong at strip shows when men are 258 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 6: dressed up pretending to be women like this is not 259 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 6: a complicated situation. And there are a lot of women 260 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 6: out there that are worried. These wine moms, they're worried 261 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 6: that they're not going to be inclusive enough. So they've 262 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 6: got their kids prancing around putting dollar bills in thongs 263 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 6: of dudes pretending to be chicks like this is weird. 264 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 7: Men wouldn't do this. Men don't do this right. 265 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 6: Men don't take their kids to strip shows because we 266 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 6: know how inappropriate that is, because it's sexualizing children. What 267 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 6: are these moms thinking? And what of the Paul Ryan's 268 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 6: of the world thinking. We say, I don't really want 269 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 6: to get involved in this. I just want to talk 270 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 6: about what the corporate tax rate is. You're a loser. 271 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 7: You're gonna get your ass kicked, just like you did 272 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 7: in twenty twelve. 273 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: In case anyone was wondering what Clay thinks about that. 274 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: Gun owners, gun owners, let's talk for a second here, 275 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 2: all right, Come on over. Treat yourself to a new 276 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: training of device, my friends, that will improve your skills 277 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: and sharpen your aim. It's called the Mantis X. It's 278 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: a great tool to have at home or out of 279 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: the range. 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As promised, we 298 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: have Ambassador Nicky Haley with us now. She is running 299 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: for GOP nomination for President of the United States. Ambassador Haley, 300 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: thanks for making the time. 301 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 4: Thanks so much. It's great to be with you. 302 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: So let's start, if we could, with your analysis of 303 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: the situation. Look, I understand that you're running your own 304 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: campaign and you want to talk about your own issues. 305 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: We're going to ask you about some of your policies 306 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: and what you'd want to do for the country. But 307 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: today is a particular day. Your chief rival in the primary, 308 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: the guy who's leading in the polls right now, is 309 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: before or is about to be before a judge down 310 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: here in Florida. What do you make of the situation 311 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: of Donald Trump and would you commit to pardoning him 312 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: if it came to it, if you were able to 313 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: win the race. 314 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I had a great relation, working 315 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: relationship with President Trump, and you know, what's happening is unfortunate. 316 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 4: I think the Justice Department has handled this whole thing terribly. 317 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: I mean, you can't have one standard for Democrats like 318 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, and then another standard for 319 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 4: Republicans like Donald Trump. And we're seeing that again, and 320 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 4: we're seeing that again with the Biden robbery recordings that 321 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 4: have come to light. I mean, the country should never 322 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 4: stand for that, and I think that we should all 323 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 4: speak up and we have to be loud about that. 324 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 4: Having said that, if the claims in the indictment are true. 325 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 4: If they're true, then Trump was incredibly reckless with our 326 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 4: national security. And that's not Okay. So now if you've 327 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 4: got the question of a pardon, I mean that's a 328 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: very different question. I'm not going to presume President Trump's guilt. 329 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 4: I think we all need to let this trial play out. 330 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 4: We need to see, you know, exactly what happens. But 331 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 4: you know, when you look at a pardon, the issue 332 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 4: is less about guilt and more about what's good for 333 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 4: the country. And I think it would be terrible for 334 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 4: the country to have a former president in prison for 335 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 4: years because of a document's case. That's something you'd see 336 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 4: in a third world country. I saw that as the 337 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 4: United Nations, So I would be inclined in favor of 338 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 4: a part. But I think it's really premature at this 339 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 4: point when he's not even been convicted of anything. 340 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 6: Nicky Hayley with us now, you're obviously running for president. 341 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 6: Two leading candidates right now are Donald Trump. We just 342 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 6: ask you about Trump as he gets ready for the 343 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 6: indictment in Florida and Ron DeSantis. You have aggressively attacked 344 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 6: Ron DeSantis for his response on Disney. 345 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 7: What has he gotten wrong there? What would you have 346 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 7: done differently? 347 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, you know, I call people out 348 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: whenever I see anything I was a governor, and you know, 349 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 4: certainly we had to work with a lot of different companies. 350 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 4: South Carolina is not a woke state, but you know 351 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 4: you had these things Disney. The biggest issue. Look, Ron 352 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 4: can do whatever he wants, he is the governor. But 353 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 4: the biggest issue with this is Disney just didn't become 354 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 4: woke overnight. 355 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: They've been woke. 356 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 4: For a long time. I remember when they hit President 357 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 4: Trump on immigration, So this is nothing new. All I'm 358 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 4: saying is, look, if you've gone and given Disney that 359 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 4: the largest corporate subsidies in Florida history, If you've gone 360 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 4: and done all of these things for Disney and they 361 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 4: are your largest employer, I just don't think you need 362 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 4: to get into this vendetta politics where you're, you know, 363 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 4: using taxpayer dollars for lawsuits. That's not what I would do. 364 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 4: What I would do is call them out on what 365 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 4: you need to call them out on. But just because 366 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 4: they hit you doesn't mean you have to go into 367 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 4: an all out war with them. I mean, these companies 368 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: tend to do that. We're seeing more and more wote companies. 369 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 4: What we should do is keep pushing policy that we 370 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 4: know is right for our people and then let the 371 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 4: companies go and hurt themselves in the way that they 372 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 4: criticize things. But I just think that back and forth 373 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 4: is unfortunate for the people of Florida. But he's got 374 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 4: a decision to make. I mean, I'm much rather talk 375 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 4: about the fact that you know, we're thirty one trillion 376 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 4: dollars in debt, and you know he voted to raise 377 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 4: the debt feeling back in twenty eighteen, and you know, 378 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 4: now we're sitting in a big mess when it comes 379 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 4: to our debt. I think we've got to take care 380 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 4: of that. 381 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 2: Cobbssor Haley on the issue of Trump, you mentioned a 382 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: moment ago that you always had a very good relationship 383 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: with them. You obviously were the US ambassadors to the 384 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: United Nations during Trump's first term. You know you're running 385 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 2: for president. So what would be different about a Haley 386 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: presidency than a Trumps second term? What would you do 387 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: better or what would you do differently? 388 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 4: Well, I've been a two term governor that took a 389 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 4: double digit unemployment state and turned it into an economic powerhouse. 390 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 4: I was at the UN. I didn't deal with one country. 391 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 4: I dealt with one hundred and ninety three. I mean, 392 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 4: President Trump and I differ on something. You know, he 393 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 4: thinks January sixth was a beautiful day. I think it 394 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 4: was a terrible day. You know, he thinks we should 395 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 4: stay neutral on the war with Ukraine and Russia. I 396 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 4: think a win for Ukraine is good for America's national security. 397 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 4: You know, he had no problem with the spending and 398 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 4: you know the increase in the debt that we had, 399 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: And I, as an accountant, I think that our kids 400 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 4: are never going to forgive us for this if we 401 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 4: don't start seriously cutting back on the spending, stopping the borrowing, 402 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 4: and making sure we go back to pre COVID level. 403 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 6: Talking to former Ambassador and Governor Nikki Haley Joe Biden, 404 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 6: it appears, I think, to almost every single person listening 405 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 6: to us right now, a lot of Democrats, Republicans, and 406 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 6: independents all overwhelmingly agree. Isn't physically or mentally capable of 407 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 6: being president should he be the Democrat nominee in twenty 408 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 6: twenty four in your opinion, Nikki? And if he is, 409 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 6: do you think that he's going to be able to 410 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 6: finish his term in office? 411 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 4: No? And don't I think this is a shadow campaign 412 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 4: for Kamala Harris. I mean, I when I look at it, 413 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 4: that's who I'm running against, is Kamala Harris. Because we 414 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 4: can't look at Biden and see the decline that he's 415 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 4: had in the last couple of years and honestly think 416 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 4: that he's going to make it as president till eighty 417 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 4: six years old. I think that this is very much 418 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 4: they're going to keep him from debating in primary. They're 419 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 4: going to get him to be the nominee. We don't 420 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 4: know if he's going to actually make it to the election. 421 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 4: If he does make it to the election, I don't 422 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 4: think he stays long as president. And so I think, 423 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 4: you know, I will continue to say a vote for 424 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 4: President Biden is a vote for President Harris. And I 425 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 4: think that's also why you're seeing them go and spend 426 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 4: all this money trying to change her profile and make 427 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 4: her look better than what she is. It is because 428 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 4: I think that she is going to be eventually either 429 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 4: the nominee or the president if it continues going down 430 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 4: the path where Biden wins. And that's exactly why we 431 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 4: need to be very focused and understand that we've got 432 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 4: to have a new generational leader. We cannot lose this 433 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 4: election again. We can't afford to lose the general election 434 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 4: and give Biden and Kamala four years because I don't 435 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 4: think America will recover from that. 436 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 6: One of the big questions we've had on this show 437 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 6: is Trump says that twenty twenty was a stolen election, 438 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 6: that it was rigged. If Democrats were willing to steal 439 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 6: and rig twenty twenty, why would they not do the 440 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 6: same thing in twenty twenty four. How do you look 441 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 6: at discussing twenty twenty not only retrospectively, but also prospectively 442 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 6: as it pertains to twenty twenty four. 443 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 4: I think there were a lot of lessons that we 444 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: should take from twenty twenty. I mean, voter integrity is everything. 445 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 4: If you know, if you have people who don't trust 446 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 4: the election process, I mean, that can be the weakening 447 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 4: point of any country. And so it's really important that 448 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 4: we have integrity. I as governor, passed voter ID in 449 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 4: South Carolina, and I was vilifyed for it, but I said, 450 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 4: if you've got to show picture ID to buy suit 451 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 4: of bed, if you've got to show pictrity to get 452 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 4: on a plane, you should have to show pictrity to 453 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 4: protect the integrity of the election process. What we saw 454 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 4: happen during COVID was a lot of spending of the rules, 455 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 4: and you saw secretaries of state do things without their 456 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 4: state legislatures. We saw mail out balloting, We saw some 457 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 4: inconsistencies there, and you know, while I don't think that 458 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 4: changed the results of the elections, I think that should 459 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 4: be a wake up call to every American that we 460 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 4: need to do everything we can to have election integrity. 461 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 4: So I think every state in the country should at 462 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 4: least have to do voter IDs. I think we should 463 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 4: make sure that when they're absentee ballots or any early voting, 464 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 4: we should always have to verify signatures and make sure 465 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 4: they are who they are. I think when ballots come in, 466 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 4: they should be counted at the time, and everybody should 467 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 4: get the results of the election on election DAGE shouldn't 468 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 4: have this going two weeks out. And so I don't 469 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 4: think we should stop on fighting for election integrity. I 470 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 4: think we still have a few states that are concerning 471 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 4: and I think that we have to be conscious about that. 472 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 4: And I think we also have to understand that whatever 473 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 4: the Democrats are doing and the ways they go to 474 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 4: get people to vote. Republicans need to do the same thing. 475 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 4: It's about getting as many of our people out to 476 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 4: vote as possible, and we've got to make sure that 477 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 4: we continue to push for voter integrity in the process. 478 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: Just have one more for you, Ambassador Hayley. We're speaking 479 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: to amasador Niki Haley. She's running for the Republican nomination. 480 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: What does a Haley What would a Hailey presidency look 481 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: like with regard to both border security and the tens 482 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 2: of millions of illegal immigrants who are currently in the 483 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: United States. What would your approach be? What would your 484 00:23:59,040 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: policy be? 485 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I went four hundred miles down 486 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 4: that border, and you are not ready for what I saw. 487 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 4: It is unthinkable what those ranchers go through when they 488 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 4: get up in the morning and have to see if 489 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 4: someone died while they crossed the fence, or pick up 490 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 4: whatever little kids were behind. And when I talked to sheriffs, 491 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 4: they sat there and said they round up the legal 492 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 4: immigrants before seven am, turn them over to border patrol. 493 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 4: Border patrol releases them until their court date years from now. 494 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 4: And when I talked to border patrol and ask them 495 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 4: about their jobs, they said, you want to know what 496 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 4: we do. We're glorified babysitters. They don't let us do 497 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 4: our jobs. When I was governor in South Carolina, I 498 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 4: passed one of the toughest ilegal immigration laws in the country. 499 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 4: We did a mandatory everified program that required all of 500 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 4: our businesses to prove who they were hiring work here 501 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 4: legally in this country. I would do a national e 502 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 4: verified program across the country. I would defund sanctuary cities. 503 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 4: I would go back to remain in Mexico, because no 504 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 4: one wants to remain in Mexico. We'd pulled back on 505 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 4: the provisions of Title for two. Instead of eighty seven 506 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 4: thousand hours agents going after Middle America, we'd put twenty 507 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 4: five thousand Border patrol and ICE agents on the ground, 508 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 4: and instead of catching release, we would go to catch 509 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 4: and deport. We've got to stop the bleeding. We've got 510 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 4: to shut down our borders. We can't have this continue 511 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 4: to happen. Five million legal immigrants have crossed the border. 512 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 4: It's unthinkable. 513 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 6: Nikki Haley, Ambassador and Governor. We appreciate you, look forward 514 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 6: to talking to you again soon. 515 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 4: Thanks gun to Nicky Haley dot com. 516 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 6: Appreciate that tunnel, the Towers Foundation. We know how important 517 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 6: they have been in everything that they have done. I 518 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 6: saw buck really great footage of their golf tournament this 519 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 6: past weekend. It was fantastic, really really cool. But I 520 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 6: want to tell you now about computers breaking. They fail, 521 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 6: They crash. As much as we rely on them to 522 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 6: store important documents like my book, manuscript or save priceless photos, 523 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 6: they break down. 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That's I drive dot Com my name Clay. 543 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: Download and use the new Clay and Fuck opp Listen 544 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: to the program live. 545 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 3: Catch up on any part of the show you might 546 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 3: have missed it. 547 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: Stay current with what Clay and Buck are saying on TV. 548 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: Fine the Clay and Buck app in your app store and. 549 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 3: Make it part of your day. 550 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 6: Welcome in Clay Traps, Bucks, Ex and Joe. We're joined 551 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 6: now by Representative Nancy Mats of South Carolina. And I 552 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 6: got to start this off by saying I completely and 553 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 6: absolutely loved your going to war with crazy man Keith Olberman, 554 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 6: who regularly jumps after Buck and myself as well. And 555 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 6: for people who did not see it, I'll set it 556 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 6: up and then you can knock it off the tee here. 557 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 7: But basically, you tweeted. 558 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 6: That Hillary Clinton got a different standard of justice than 559 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 6: Trump did and that she was able to get away 560 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 6: with destroying her emails, and Oberman came back at you 561 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 6: and describe exactly what happened. 562 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 3: Well. 563 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 8: He said that I was hallucinating. He said that I 564 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 8: was wrong, that she didn't take a hammer at anything, 565 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 8: and that I was hallucinating as if I were on 566 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 8: drugs or something or high. I guess, I don't even know. 567 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 8: And then it was beautiful. I love Elon Musk. The 568 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 8: Community Notes went in and fact checked him, and I 569 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 8: fact checked him with the CNN videos where they were 570 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 8: fact checking that it actually happened. Did Hillary and Clinton 571 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 8: and our staff take cameras to their devices, their phones, 572 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 8: their iPads and they use bleach bit on the server. 573 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 8: The answer was yes, emphatically, Yes, it actually did happen. 574 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 8: It's called obstruction of justice. And we were able to 575 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 8: fact check him. But also Community Notes on Twitter did 576 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 8: the same thing. It was beautiful. 577 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 2: Congressman Mace, thanks for being with us. Trump is going 578 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: into court today. He's doing the whole checking in. I 579 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: don't have their fingerprinting him. I don't think they're doing 580 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: a mug shot. And then he's going to be in 581 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: front of a judge, going to plead not guilty to 582 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: thirty plus counts here. What do you think the position 583 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: of the various candidates in the Republican primary should be 584 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: on this matter? The vek Ramaswami saying he's already committing 585 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: to a pardon if he were to be president, do 586 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: you think that's the right approach? And just how do 587 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: you think that everybody should be viewing this well. 588 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 8: In this case and if people understand, like I've had 589 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 8: my ups and downs with Donald Trump. But when you 590 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 8: look at this at the outset, when you look at 591 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 8: the timing of these indictments, the first one happened the 592 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 8: day that the Oversight Committee got access to the Stars reports. 593 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,239 Speaker 8: The second indictment happened when we got access to the 594 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 8: ten twenty three showing bribery with Joe Biden and is 595 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 8: Son Hunter Biden. The next one will come down when 596 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 8: they when we release this some when the tapes get released, 597 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 8: I guess. But when you look at this from a 598 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 8: very high level, this is the executive branch utilizing their power, 599 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,959 Speaker 8: wielding their power to put away lock away for life, 600 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 8: like this is a death sentence for Donald Trump to 601 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 8: keep Joe Biden's number one political enemy on the presidency. 602 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 8: I mean, that's at the end of the day, That's 603 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 8: what this is about. This is about because we can 604 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 8: argue ausor and my dog is going off. We can 605 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 8: argue about how mishandling of documents, you know. But Hillary Clinton, 606 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 8: she set the standard with how documents are handled, and 607 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 8: she obstructed justice, didn't get indicted, and they're indicting Donald Trump. 608 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 8: They're arresting him today. They're arranging him today to keep 609 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 8: him off the ballot in twenty four At the end 610 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 8: of the day, that's what this is about. And I 611 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 8: don't care if you're Republican or Democrat or independent. That's 612 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 8: what is happening in this country today. It should not 613 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 8: be and I think it's egregious. I think that the 614 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,959 Speaker 8: other candidates need to support Donald Trump in his arraignment today. 615 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 8: I mean, I think it's a whole other argument on 616 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 8: how we handle documents and the Presidential Records Act and 617 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 8: all that, but the precedent we're setting today is unwarranted. 618 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 8: We should not be doing this, especially during a presidential election, 619 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 8: especially to a former president. When Joe Biden got away 620 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 8: with classified documents, Mike Pence got away with it. Haillary Clinton, Like, 621 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 8: what are we talking about here? You're just trying to 622 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 8: do this, to lock them up, put them away for 623 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 8: jail for life. In nobody else is held to the 624 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 8: same standard. It's crazy that this is happening in the 625 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 8: way that it's happening. 626 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 6: So how does this play out twenty twenty? You have, 627 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 6: I think, laid out a bunch of different arguments for, Hey, 628 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 6: you've got to win back suburban women, right and Buck 629 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 6: and I talk about this on the show a lot. 630 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 6: The persuadable voters. You represent a district that has persuadable voters. 631 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 6: How does this play in your mind with those voters 632 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 6: out there who may not be following this as intensely 633 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 6: as most of our listeners are. And you just laid 634 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 6: it out. I mean, clearly two systems of justice is 635 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 6: going on. But how do you make that appeal to 636 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 6: these moms that are out there running around with their kids, 637 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 6: super busy every day, and they're going to look up 638 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 6: in October and suddenly make a decision next year who 639 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 6: to vote for. How do Republicans take back the White House? 640 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 6: What do we have to do? 641 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: In your mind? 642 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 8: I'm trying to show a path here. You got to 643 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 8: be able. You can't just you can't just be able 644 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 8: to speak maga. You've got to be able to support 645 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 8: speak suburban mom too. And I've tried to show a 646 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 8: pathway to twenty four in talking about the issues that 647 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 8: women care about, because at the end of the day, 648 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 8: and I've from some independent voters, independent minded people that 649 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 8: aren't supporting the former president just yet. They're supporting somebody 650 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 8: else in the primary, but they don't like what they 651 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 8: see happening in our country right now. They don't like 652 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 8: what Joe Biden is doing with the executive branch, wielding 653 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 8: and weaponizing their power to throw somebody, a presidential candidate, 654 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 8: a political enemy in jail. And I am slowly seeing 655 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 8: that it's taken a while, and my instincts are that 656 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 8: we need to show it for what it is. But 657 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 8: also at the same time, as Republicans, we have to 658 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 8: show women that we care. We have to while we're 659 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 8: talking about the issues of life, we have to talk 660 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 8: about birth control and protecting women who've been raped or 661 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 8: girls who are victims of incests, doing all the compassionate, 662 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 8: caring things that suburban moms care about and want us 663 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 8: talking about. And I you know, last summer last year, 664 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 8: in my my ranks I'm a very purple district, even 665 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 8: though I'm South Carolina and were along the coast, but 666 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 8: our district was not a Republican district last summer. It 667 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 8: was heavily William Democrat on a generic ballot last summer, 668 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 8: but we were up by almost double digits at time 669 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 8: because I was talking about the issues that mattered to 670 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 8: women voters, particularly highly educated suburban women's, suburban moms who 671 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 8: maybe aren't pro life or as pro life as I am, 672 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 8: but they understood and respected the position I was taking 673 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 8: and that I struck out and staked out and said 674 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 8: I care about women and I care about life, and 675 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 8: they were satisfied and could live with that because I'm 676 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 8: willing to work with other people that might even disagree. 677 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 8: And that's going to be. It's going to be a 678 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 8: really abortion it's going to be, and women's issues are 679 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 8: going to be very important issues to us in twenty 680 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 8: four if we want to keep the House, if we 681 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 8: want to flip this in and if we want to 682 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 8: win back to White House. 683 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: Congressman, before I let you go, clearly, your dog not 684 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: a Hillary Clinton voter. I'm not a fan. I'm just 685 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 2: wondering what kind of dog. 686 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 8: She's a haviny is. Her name is Liberty, and she 687 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 8: loves freedom in the Constitution in DC with me this week, 688 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 8: you know, marching around and taking votes if we get 689 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 8: to vote today. She's around with us up here on 690 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 8: the this week. 691 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 6: Two things in your background that I want you to 692 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 6: tell our audience who may not know you. Nancy, you 693 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 6: worked as a waffle house waitress. I'm wondering what the 694 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 6: best waffle house story you have? Second part of this goodness, 695 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 6: so think you can think on that for sex. Second 696 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 6: part on this. You were, I believe the first female 697 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 6: graduate or among the first female graduates from the Citadel. 698 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 6: Would you it's a fabulous school in South Carolina. Would 699 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 6: you have ever believed, I'm curious when you were in 700 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 6: school at Citadel that the entire Democrat party would believe 701 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 6: that men should be able to compete in women's athletics 702 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 6: and that that would be their dogma. What's crazier your 703 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 6: experience at waffle house as a waitress or the Democrat 704 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 6: perspective on athletics. 705 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 8: Oh gosh, well, it's definitely the Democratic perspective on athletics. 706 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 8: I remember, you know, I'm a high school dropout. I 707 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 8: dropped out of school at seventeen. My father's retired army general. 708 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 8: I said, you're going to stop going to school, you 709 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 8: get to start going to work. Defin whely, I took 710 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 8: up the job at the waffle house. 711 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: Tell you my. 712 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 8: Favorite stories at the waffle house, or when I was 713 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 8: on the morning shift and the guys that were coming 714 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 8: off their night shift at work and their wives or 715 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 8: their family or their kids would meet them at waffle 716 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 8: house for breakfast when they were getting off their shift, 717 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 8: or the cops that would come in for a cup 718 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 8: of coffee as they were going to work. Like that, 719 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 8: community feeling and meeting real people with real stories and 720 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 8: real lives and real jobs like that was awesome. But 721 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 8: the Citadel, like I used to stay when I graduated, 722 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 8: you know, I was like, I'm not a feminist. I 723 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 8: didn't do this to be a feminist like my father's 724 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 8: a graduate of the Citadel. I went to prove my 725 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 8: own my own my own strength, my own potential there. 726 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 8: I didn't go there for any other reason. But now 727 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 8: I'm like, well, gosh, conservative women are feminists now because 728 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 8: we want women to achieve and we don't want men 729 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 8: to take away the achievements of women today. It's so 730 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 8: crazy to me that this is where the conversation has 731 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 8: gone and now we're a feminist. I just it's mind 732 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 8: boggling that they want to, you know, give these achievements 733 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 8: away to men. And it's like someone had told me 734 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 8: in the nineties graduated in ninety nine from the Citadel, 735 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 8: I was the first woman to graduate from there in 736 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 8: nineteen ninety nine, that it would have been okay, you know, 737 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,959 Speaker 8: it was one hundred and fifty four years where women 738 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 8: have never been there, and that if a biological male 739 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 8: somehow put a dress on, then it would be a 740 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 8: woman who could achieve that experience. Like, I don't think 741 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 8: so not happening. We want to make sure that our 742 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 8: women and girls are protected in their locker rooms, on 743 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 8: the fields, and academic achievements, everything like we've never had 744 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 8: a female president in our country. Something you want women 745 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 8: to achieve, but not at the expense of Hey, men 746 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 8: can take it away from you if they decide that 747 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 8: their gender is something different. That's not the case. It 748 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 8: shouldn't be. We want to protect limits always. 749 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 2: Congresswoman Nancy may appreciate you being with us here on 750 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 2: Klan Box. Thanks so much. Thank you. 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As promised, we 779 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 2: have Ambassador Nicky Haley with us now. She is running 780 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 2: for GOP nomination for President of the United States. Ambassador Haley, 781 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 2: thanks for making the time. 782 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 4: Thanks so much. It's great to be with you. 783 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 2: So let's start, if we could, with your analysis of 784 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 2: the situation. Look, I understand that you're running your own 785 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 2: campaign and you want to talk about your own issues. 786 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 2: We're going to ask you about some of your policies 787 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 2: and what you'd want to do for the country. But 788 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 2: today is a particular day. Your chief rival in the primary, 789 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 2: the guy who's leading in the polls right now, is 790 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 2: before or is about to be before a judge down 791 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 2: here in Florida. What do you make of the situation 792 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 2: of Donald Trump, and would you commit to pardoning him 793 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 2: if it came to it, if you were able to 794 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 2: win the race. 795 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I had a great relation, working 796 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 4: relationship President Trump, and you know, what's happening is unfortunate. 797 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 4: I think the Justice Department has handled this whole thing terribly. 798 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 4: I mean, you can't have one standard for Democrats like 799 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, and then another standard for 800 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 4: Republicans like Donald Trump. And we're seeing that again, and 801 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 4: we're seeing that again with the Biden robbery recordings that 802 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 4: have come to light. I mean, the country should never 803 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 4: stand for that, and I think that we should all 804 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 4: speak up and we have to be loud about that. 805 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 4: Having said that, if the claims in the indictment are true, 806 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 4: if they're true, then Trump was incredibly reckless with our 807 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 4: national security and that's not okay. So now if you've 808 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 4: got the question of a pardon, I mean, that's a 809 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 4: very different question. I'm not going to presume President Trump's guilt. 810 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 4: I think we all need to let this trial play out. 811 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 4: We need to see, you know, exactly what happens. But 812 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 4: you know, when you look at a pardon, the issue 813 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 4: is less about guilt and more about what's good for 814 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 4: the country, and I think it would be terrible for 815 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 4: the country to have a former president in prison for 816 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 4: years because of a document that's something you've seen in 817 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 4: a third world country. I saw that as the United Nations, 818 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 4: So I would be inclined in favor of a pardon, 819 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 4: but I think it's really premature at this point when 820 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 4: he's not even been convicted of anything. 821 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 6: Nicky Hayley with US now, you're obviously running for president. 822 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 6: Two leading candidates right now are Donald Trump. We just 823 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 6: ask you about Trump as he gets ready for the 824 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 6: indictment in Florida and Ron DeSantis. You have aggressively attacked 825 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 6: Ron DeSantis for his response on Disney. 826 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 7: What has he gotten wrong there? What would you have 827 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 7: done differently? 828 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, you know, I call people out 829 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 4: whenever I see anything. I was a governor, and you know, 830 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 4: certainly we had to work with a lot of different companies. 831 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 4: South Carolina is not a woke state, but you know, 832 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 4: you had these things Disney. The biggest issue. Look, Ron 833 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 4: can do whatever he wants, he is the governor. But 834 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 4: the biggest issue with this is Disney just didn't become 835 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 4: woke overnight. They've been woke for a long time. I 836 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 4: remember when they hit President Trump on immigration, So this 837 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 4: is nothing new. All I'm saying is, look, if you've 838 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 4: gone and given Disney that the largest corporate subsidies in 839 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 4: Florida history, If you've gone and done all of these 840 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 4: things for Disney and they are your largest employer, I 841 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 4: just don't think you need to get into this vendetta 842 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 4: politics where you're, you know, using taxpayer dollars for lawsuits. 843 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 4: That's not what I would do. What I would do 844 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 4: is call them out on what you need to call 845 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 4: them out on. But just because they hit you doesn't 846 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,919 Speaker 4: mean you have to go into an all out war 847 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 4: with them. I mean, these companies tend to do that. 848 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 4: We're seeing more and more wote companies. What we should 849 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 4: do is keep pushing policy that we know is right 850 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 4: for our people and then let the companies go and 851 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 4: hurt themselves in the way that they criticize things. But 852 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 4: I just think that back and forth is unfortunate for 853 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 4: the people of Florida. But he's got a decision to make. 854 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm much rather talk about the fact that 855 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 4: you know, we're thirty one trillion dollars in debt and 856 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 4: you know, he voted to raise the debt ceiling back 857 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen, and you know, now we're sitting in 858 00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 4: a big mess when it comes to our debt. I 859 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 4: think we've got to take care of that. 860 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 2: Ambassador Haley, on the issue of Trump, you mentioned a 861 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 2: moment ago that you always had a very good relationship 862 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 2: with him. You obviously were the US ambassadors the United 863 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 2: Nations during Trump's first term. You know, you're running for president. 864 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 2: So what would be different about a Haley presidency than 865 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 2: a Trump second term? What would you do better or 866 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 2: what would you do differently? 867 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 4: Well, I've been a two term governor that took a 868 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 4: double digit unemployment state and turned it into an economic powerhouse. 869 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 4: I was at the UN I didn't deal with one country. 870 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 4: I dealt with one hundred and ninety three. I mean, 871 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 4: President Trump and I differ on some things. You know, 872 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 4: he thinks January sixth was a beautiful day. I think 873 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 4: it was a terrible day. You know, he thinks we 874 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 4: should stay neutral on the war with Ukraine and Russia. 875 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 4: I think a win for Ukraine is good for America's 876 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,240 Speaker 4: national security. You know, he had no problem with the spending, 877 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,879 Speaker 4: and you know, the increase in the debt that we had, 878 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 4: and I, as an accountant, I think that our kids 879 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 4: are never going to forgive us for this if we 880 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 4: don't start seriously cutting back on the spending, stopping the borrowing, 881 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 4: and making sure we go back to pre COVID levels. 882 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 6: Talking to former Ambassador and Governor Nikki Hayley Joe Biden, 883 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 6: it appears, I think, to almost every single person listening 884 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 6: to us right now, a lot of Democrats, Republicans, and 885 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 6: independents all overwhelmingly agree. Isn't physically or mentally capable of 886 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 6: being president? Should he be the Democrat nominee in twenty 887 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 6: twenty four in your opinion, Nikki? And if he is, 888 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 6: do you think that he's going to be able to 889 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 6: finish his term in office? 890 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 4: No? And don't. I think this is a shadow campaign 891 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 4: for Kamala Harris. I mean, I when I look at it, 892 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 4: that's who I'm running against, is Kamala Harris. Because we 893 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 4: can't look at Biden and see the decline that he's 894 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 4: had in the last couple of years and honestly think 895 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 4: that he's going to make it as president untill eighty 896 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 4: six years old. I think that this is very much. 897 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,919 Speaker 4: They're going to keep him from debating in primary. They're 898 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 4: going to get him to be the nominee. We don't 899 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 4: know if he's going to actually make it to the election. 900 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 4: If he does make it to the election, I don't 901 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 4: think he stays long as president, and so I think, 902 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 4: you know, I will continue to say a vote for 903 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 4: President Biden is a vote for President Harris. And I 904 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 4: think that's also why you're seeing them go and spend 905 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 4: all this money trying to, you know, change her profile 906 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 4: and make her look better than what she is is, 907 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 4: because I think that she is going to be eventually 908 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 4: either the nominee or the president if it continues going 909 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 4: down the path where Biden wins. And that's exactly why 910 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 4: we need to be very focused and understand that we've 911 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 4: got to have a new generational leader. We cannot lose 912 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 4: this election again. We can't afford to lose the general 913 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 4: election and give Biden and Kamala four years because I 914 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 4: don't think America would recover from that. 915 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 6: One of the big questions we've had on this show 916 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,240 Speaker 6: is Trump says that twenty twenty was a stolen election, 917 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 6: that it was rigged. If Democrats were willing to steal 918 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 6: and rig twenty twenty. Why would they not do the 919 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 6: same thing in twenty twenty four. How do you look 920 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 6: at discussing twenty twenty not only retrospectively, but also prospectively 921 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 6: as it pertains to twenty twenty four. 922 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 4: I think there were a lot of lessons that we 923 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 4: should take from twenty twenty. I mean, voter integrity is everything. 924 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 4: If you know, if you have people who don't trust 925 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 4: the election process, I mean, that can be the weakening 926 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 4: point of any country. And so it's really important that 927 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 4: we have integrity. I as governor, passed voter ID in 928 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 4: South Carolina, and I was vilified for it, but I said, 929 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 4: if you've got to show picture ID to buy suit 930 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,399 Speaker 4: of bet, if you've got to show pictrity to get 931 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 4: on a plane, you should have to show picturrity to 932 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 4: protect the integrity of the election process. What we saw 933 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,800 Speaker 4: happen during COVID was a lot of spending of the rules, 934 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 4: and you saw secretaries of state do things without their 935 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 4: state legislatures. We saw mail out balloting, We saw some 936 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 4: inconsistencies there. And you know, while I don't think that 937 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 4: changed the results of the elections, I think that should 938 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 4: be a wake up call to every American that we 939 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 4: need to do everything we can to have election integrity. 940 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 4: So I think every state in the country should at 941 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 4: least have to do voter IDs. I think we should 942 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,280 Speaker 4: make sure that when they're absentee ballots or any early voting, 943 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 4: we should always have to verify signatures and make sure 944 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 4: they are who they are. I think when ballots come in, 945 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 4: they should be counted at the time, and everybody should 946 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 4: get the results of the election on election d Age 947 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 4: shouldn't have this going two weeks out, and so I 948 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,280 Speaker 4: don't think we should stop on fighting for election integrity. 949 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 4: I think we still have a few states that are 950 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 4: concerning and I think that we have to be conscious 951 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,240 Speaker 4: about that. And I think we also have to understand 952 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 4: that whatever the Democrats are doing and the ways they 953 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 4: go to get people to vote, Republicans need to do 954 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 4: the same thing. It's about getting as many of our 955 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 4: people out to vote as possible, and we've got to 956 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 4: make sure that we continue to push for voter integrity 957 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 4: in the process. 958 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 2: Just have one more for you, Ambassador Haley. We're speaking 959 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 2: of Ambassadornikki Haley. She's running for the Republican nomination. What 960 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 2: does a Haley. What would a Haley presidency look like 961 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 2: with regard to both border security and the tens of 962 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 2: millions of illegal immigrants who are currently in the United States. 963 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,320 Speaker 2: What would your approach me? What would your policy be? 964 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I went four hundred miles down 965 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 4: that border, and you are not ready for what I saw. 966 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 4: It is unthinkable what those ranchers go through when they 967 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 4: get up in the morning and have to see if 968 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 4: someone died while they crossed the fence, or pick up 969 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 4: whatever little kids were behind. And when I talked to sheriffs, 970 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,280 Speaker 4: they sat there and said they round up illegal immigrants 971 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,479 Speaker 4: before seven am, turn them over to border patrol. Border 972 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 4: patrol releases them until their court date years from now. 973 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 4: And when I talked to border patrol and asked them 974 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 4: about their jobs, they said, you want to know what 975 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 4: we do. We're glorified babysitters. They don't let us do 976 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 4: our jobs. When I was governor in South Carolina, I 977 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 4: passed one of the toughest illegal immigration laws in the country. 978 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 4: We did a mandatory, everified program that required all of 979 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 4: our businesses to prove who they were hiring work here 980 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 4: legally in this country. I would do a national everified 981 00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 4: program across the country. I would defund sanctuary cities. I 982 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 4: would go back to remain in Mexico because no one 983 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 4: wants to remain in Mexico. We'd pulled back on the 984 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,280 Speaker 4: provisions of Title forty two. Instead of eighty seven thousand 985 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 4: hours agents going after Middle America, we'd put twenty five 986 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 4: thousand Border Patrol and ICE agents on the ground, and 987 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 4: instead of catching release, we would go to ketching deport 988 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 4: We've got to stop the bleeding. We've got to shut 989 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 4: down our borders. We can't have this continue to happen. 990 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 4: Five million illegal immigrants have crossed the border. It's unthinkable. 991 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 6: Nikki Haley, Ambassador and Governor. We appreciate you. Look forward 992 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 6: to talking to you again soon. 993 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 4: Thanks Guy to Nicki Haley dot com. 994 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 6: Appreciate that tunnel. The Towers Foundation. We know how important 995 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 6: they have been in everything that they have done. I 996 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 6: saw buck really great footage of their golf tournament this 997 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 6: past weekend. It was fantastic, really really cool. But I 998 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,800 Speaker 6: want to tell you now about computers breaking. They fail, 999 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 6: they crash. 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