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Speaker 1: day two of Senate confirmation hearings for Judge Kitangi Brown Jackson.

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Speaker 1: become the first black woman on the Supreme Court. Yeah. Boy. Interesting.

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Speaker 1: How how late do we go through the day tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: have an estimate on that, but it won't go quite

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Speaker 1: as late as today. There will be I think a

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Speaker 1: couple of senators that will have their first crack at

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Speaker 1: her tomorrow, and then they'll have a shorter second round,

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Speaker 1: and if traditional holds not, every senator will use all

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Speaker 1: they have not scheduled a vote yet, right, is that correct?

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Speaker 1: For I heard Dick Turbans say, I believe that is

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Speaker 1: the case. They had not not scheduled to vote. Democrats

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Speaker 1: hope to get her confirmed before the Easter recess, which

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Speaker 1: is April nine or so. Greg, you're doing great work,

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Speaker 1: hang in there, Thank you much. Bloomberg's Supreme Court reporter

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Speaker 1: Greg Store with us on the fastest hour in politics.

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Speaker 1: Will turn this over to the panel next to get

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Speaker 1: their sense on how they two is going. For the judge.

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Speaker 1: I'm Joe Matthew fiss East, Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg.

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Speaker 1: You sound on with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the chair is speaking right now. Imagine how many questions

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Speaker 1: Kaitanji Brown Jackson has answered or chosen not to answer today,

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Speaker 1: knowing that tomorrow is still hanging out there. It turns

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Speaker 1: out to be like nineteen hours combined. But hey, look

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Speaker 1: you get through this and it looks like she will

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Speaker 1: with a confirmation, and you won't remember how many hours

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Speaker 1: you were sitting there. Let's reassemble the handle. Rick and

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Speaker 1: Genie are with us for the hour. Bloomberg Politics contributors

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Speaker 1: Jeannie Chanzano and Rick Davis. You heard our conversation with

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Speaker 1: Greg stor Rick, and I know that you've been monitoring

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Speaker 1: this as well. I'll ask you the same thing, as

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Speaker 1: this turned out to be as contentious as you expected today,

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Speaker 1: so she's she's been handling it well. I think the

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Speaker 1: Like Republican members have referred repeatedly to the Kavanaugh hearings,

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Speaker 1: Jackson in the hearing room today. Here's Senator Lindsey Grant

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Speaker 1: in your nomination. Did you notice that people from the

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Speaker 1: a lot of people from the left we're trying to

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Speaker 1: destroy Michelle Charles? Did you notice that, Senator, a lot

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Speaker 1: of people were supporting various people for this nomination. So

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Speaker 1: you're saying you didn't know there was a concerted effort

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Speaker 1: two disqualified Joe's childs from South Carolina because she was

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Speaker 1: a sitting judge. I've spoken about no I didn't know

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Speaker 1: that no, no was the answer, Rick have you can

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Speaker 1: you remember a confirmation hearing in which the nominee had

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, Lindsay was going through his grievance routine,

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Speaker 1: to exercise all his grievances. He had grievances about, uh,

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Speaker 1: and this was his moment to expel, hopefully all those

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Speaker 1: there's a part of me that says, now that he's

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Speaker 1: and it's not up to the Senate to decide who

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Speaker 1: on this tomorrow, of course, it'll be day two of questioning,

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Speaker 1: and I have to ask you guys about what's happening

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Speaker 1: in Ohio as we turn to electoral politics. Everybody saw

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Speaker 1: night at the candidates forum Mike Gibbons and Josh Mandel.

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Speaker 1: Mike Gibbons an investment banker, Josh Mandel, the former state treasurer.

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Speaker 1: They're both running in the Republican Senate primary. Friday night

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Speaker 1: candidates forum, Mandel accused Gibbons of making a lot of

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Speaker 1: money by moving Ohio businesses to China. Gibbons said Mandel

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Speaker 1: wouldn't understand because well, he accused him of never working

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Speaker 1: in the private sector, and Mandel jumps out of his chair.

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Speaker 1: They're both chest to chest with IRA List mix, and

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Speaker 1: this is what followed. Listen to this madness. You may

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Speaker 1: not understand this because you've never been aid. No, you don't.

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Speaker 1: You've never been in a work squatch in Iraq. Don't

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Speaker 1: tell me I haven't worked. Don't tell me that I

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Speaker 1: haven't worked. Moderator, Okay, trying to sit him, back down, No,

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Speaker 1: two tours in Iraq. Don't tell me I haven't worked.

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Speaker 1: Get back off, sit down. Never watch. Watch We'll square

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Speaker 1: away with you. Watch what happened. You will do that best. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, swearing on TV? Everything short if you want

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Speaker 1: We'll start with Josh Mandel. Here's what he said. I'm

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Speaker 1: a fighter, I'm a marine, and I'll never backed down

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Speaker 1: from a fight. The problem in Washington is that we

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Speaker 1: have all these squishy rhino Republicans. They've taken a knee

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Speaker 1: for the Democrats and they've taken a knee for the media.

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Speaker 1: And when I go to Washington, I will be the

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Speaker 1: Rhino Republicans as well. Okay, Mike Gibbons gave this answer

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Speaker 1: his military service. And by the way, I have a son,

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Speaker 1: it's navy pilot. We just visited him. He was he

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Speaker 1: rings the bell. These are the two front runners. Mike

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Speaker 1: Gibbons is leading the latest pool. I saw from the

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Speaker 1: By the way, undecided GOP primary voters. Genie, is this

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Speaker 1: the way you get to Washington. I'm listening to that

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Speaker 1: they're encouraging it and the squishy Rhino Republicans. That's a

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Speaker 1: classic that's got to go down. He's deserves point for that.

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Speaker 1: You know, it is unfortunately the way you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. If it's the way you get to Washington,

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Speaker 1: it's the way you get attention. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: think Mandel has looked at Gibbons with you know, Gibbons

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Speaker 1: has spent almost nine million dollars in ads in this race.

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Speaker 1: He's made it to the top of the heap, made

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Speaker 1: him a big target for Mandel, who's trying to clause

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Speaker 1: I think this is what we're gonna get. And of

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Speaker 1: to move things for board. But of course these two

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Speaker 1: I guess that's my question. Or in our remaining moment, Rick,

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Speaker 1: could we find a situation in which neither of these

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Speaker 1: this race. Well, there there's one guy who hopes that,

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Speaker 1: and that's J. D. Vance, who's got no attention, who

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's got he's getting eight percent, so he's

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Speaker 1: hoping some chunk of that of the undecided has come

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Speaker 1: his way. And look, I mean, if if they continue

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Speaker 1: to act this way, Gibbons and Mendel deserve to get

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Speaker 1: beat by j. D. Vance. But at the end of

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Speaker 1: redistricting in uh in Ohio and U and never't even

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Speaker 1: let's talk about that next week because redistricting has just

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Speaker 1: been a massive story looming over all of these contests.

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Speaker 1: Rick and Jeannie, thank you As always, God did we

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Speaker 1: cover a lot on the fastest hour in politics. As

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Speaker 1: we track Women's History Month this March, we turned for

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Speaker 1: the latest installment from Nita Young on this day in

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Speaker 1: Women's History. In sixteen thirty eight, Anne Hutchinson, It's banished

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Speaker 1: from the Massachusetts Bay Colony for her religious teachings. She

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Speaker 1: began hosting theological discussions in her home when she moved

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Speaker 1: to Boston. Hutchinson criticized clergy, who at the time promoted

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Speaker 1: a deed based theology. She advocated that salvation was assured

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Speaker 1: only through grace, but Puritan authorities, who were threatened by

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Speaker 1: her teachings, charged her with heresy and sedition. Hutchinson was

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Speaker 1: later convicted of blasphemy, and the judgment was banishment from

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Speaker 1: the Massachusetts Bay Colony. That's today in women's history. I'm

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Speaker 1: ni to Young Bloomberg Radio. All right, Nita, we thank you.

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Speaker 1: Gregg Day two tomorrow, and of course Rick and Jeanie

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