1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Worry belongs to tomorrow, Regret belongs to yesterday. Happiness as 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: you're in now. I learned during the war had a thing. 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: I learned to quantify the worst thing, and quite often 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: the worst thing, it's not so bad. The best selling 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: author and post the number one healthy wellness podcast. Hey everyone, 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: welcome back to Unpurposed, the number one health podcast in 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: the world. Thanks to each and every one of you 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: that come back every week to listen, learn and grow. 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: And I am so excited to be talking to you today. 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: I can't believe it. 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And today's guest 28 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: is Bob Parsons, best known for being the founder of GoDaddy. 29 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: Bob sold a majority stake in twenty eleven in a 30 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: deal that valued the company at two point three billion dollars. Currently, 31 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: Bob is the CEO and founder of YAM Worldwide, which 32 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: is home to his entrepreneurial ventures in the fields of motorcycles, golf, 33 00:01:54,520 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: real estate, finance, marketing, innovation, and philanthropy. Yam Worldwide includes 34 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: companies such as PXG and Scottsdale National Golf Club. Bob 35 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: is also a US Marine Corps Vietnam veteran, which we'll 36 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: dive into his story today, and Bob is also widely 37 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: recognized for his entrepreneurial and philanthropic efforts. Please welcome to 38 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: the show, Bob Parsons. Bob, it is great to have 39 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: you here. Real pleasure to be here, Jay, I kind 40 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: of tell you yeah, And I remember meeting you and 41 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: it was at your beautiful facility at PHG in Scottsdale, 42 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: and it was a really fine evening. It was myself, 43 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: you were there having dinner. I was traveling with Will 44 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: Smith at the time. Nick Jonas was there. We all 45 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: kind of just bumped into each other over dinner, and 46 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: I remember just how gracious you were, how kind you were, 47 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: what a beautiful interaction we all had that evening. It's 48 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: really special. Plays I remember meeting you guys, and you know, 49 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: and Will and Necker tool my absolute favorite people, and 50 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: I knew a little bit about you, and you know, 51 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: just to meet you as just your knees guy to 52 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: be around joy, Well, thank you. That's very kind of you. 53 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: And I was just saying to your team outside that 54 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: that was the first time I'd ever actually played golf. 55 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: So I don't play, but that was the first time 56 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: I'd ever played golf. I had one of your coaches 57 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: that was working with me for a couple of days. 58 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: I came back to LA and I started looking for 59 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: a coach because I got really into it that weekend. 60 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: Will got me a really nice set of clubs from 61 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: the course too, that were fitted for me and made 62 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: for me. And I couldn't find a coach as good 63 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: as the ones you had at PXT. So now I 64 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: need to come back more often to get some lessons. 65 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: Well we're there, thank you. Well, Bob, I want to 66 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: dive straight in to your journey and to really dive 67 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: into your work that you're doing today. And I think 68 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 1: I was really blown away to hear about your time 69 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: as a marine, and I'd like to start there. Well, 70 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, when I enlisted in the Marine Corps, I 71 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: did so mostly because I had two friends of mine 72 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: asked me to join them. They were we were in 73 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: our senior year of high school and they were going 74 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: to visit with the Marine Corps recruiter and asked me 75 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: if i'd go along with them, and I did. You know, 76 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: as we spent time with the Marine Corps recruiter, he 77 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: eventually had us in the palm of his hands. I 78 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: mean this was during the height of the Vietnam War 79 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty eight. I listed one month and walking 80 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,559 Speaker 1: through a village at night, I was on the point 81 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: team and the point man he stepped over a trip wire, 82 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: missed it and I hit it, and that thing blew 83 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: and I got shrapnel both of my legs and my 84 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: left elbow, and I was meta fact out. I left 85 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: on a stretcher. So you know, the thoughts that I 86 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: took back from that is I think I learned to 87 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: think one day at a time, and I looked to 88 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: quantify the worst thing that could possibly happen. That's got 89 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: me through a number of businesses. I've built three businesses 90 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: now I'm working on the third, all from scratch. And 91 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, when you do a startup, startup, you have 92 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: a lot of good days and a lot of bad days, 93 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: and sometimes, you know, the good days or euphoric, and 94 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: the bad days look like armageddon. So you know, how 95 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: you think really matters. And I learned during the war 96 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: how to think. I learned to quantify the worst thing, 97 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: and quite often the worst thing. When you sit down 98 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: and you quantify, it's not so bad. But if you 99 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: you know, if you look at the worst thing, it's 100 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: this big dark room full of bad things that could happen, 101 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: then it looks like far worse than it actually is, 102 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: and then it becomes debilitating. Yeah, I mean, that's such 103 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: a powerful reflection hearing that from you, based on the 104 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: experiences that you went through. Often we hear that idea, 105 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: but sitting with you here today, listening to in person, 106 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: I can feel just how real that idea is for you. 107 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: I love what you said about facing one day at 108 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: a time. I think a lot of our anxiety, a 109 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: lot of our pain, a lot of our stress is 110 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: based on what could happen in twelve months exactly, yeah, 111 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: or what happened twelve months ago. And what you're saying is, well, actually, 112 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: when you take one day at a time, that feels 113 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: manageable and solvable, even in such extreme situations. Well, and 114 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, one day at a time is something you 115 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: can do something about, right, because it's there, You know, 116 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: to be worried about a year from now, there's not 117 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: much you can do until it's a year from now, 118 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: and then it becomes one day at a time. Yeah. 119 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: I often thought that worry belongs to tomorrow, regret belongs 120 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: to yesterday, happiness as here and now. That's so powerful. Wow. 121 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: And then when you came back, and you come back 122 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: and you're experiencing depression, you're experiencing of course all stress, 123 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: the trauma that comes from living in that way. For 124 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: a month. I mean, how did your parents react to that? 125 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: Before we get onto how you reacted to it? I mean, 126 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean, well, how did your parents feel? I grew 127 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: up in a in a different kind of house. I 128 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: grew up in a in a blue collar neighborhood in 129 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: East Baltimore, and mom and dad were both compulsive gamblers 130 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: and they weren't very good at it. Now, I wouldn't 131 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: trade my mom and dad for any two on the planet. 132 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: I loved them to pieces, but didn't pay a lot 133 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: of attention to me. And I wasn't actually home that much, 134 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: so they never noticed. They never noticed, and a lot 135 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: of it, which a lot of it is I just 136 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: kept to myself. You know, my symptoms were and as 137 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: I was home, they got worse, and they got worse, 138 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: and they got worse. And when I say that, I 139 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: mean over forty nine years, the symptoms with me was 140 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: I didn't want to go places. I didn't want to 141 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: be with groups. You know, no matter who the group was, 142 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: I never felt like I belonged because I'd be there 143 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: and I'd have this just this picture of the stuff 144 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: that we did. I mean, and it just never leaves you. 145 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: And of course nobody else is dealing with that kind 146 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: of stuff. So you're definitely are different, right, So that's, 147 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: you know, one of the things. A quick temper is 148 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: another thing. People would describe me as man one of 149 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: the most intense people they've ever met. Now they're crying. 150 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: When I got into that, it was always by myself, 151 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: nobody be around. But there was good things too, and 152 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: the good things where when I went to college. When 153 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: I came back, I worked as a laborer in a 154 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: steel mill at Bethlehem Steel and I did that for 155 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: a year, and then the University of Baltimore had a 156 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: special deal for veterans where my high school grades didn't matter. 157 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: Thank goodness, I didn't have to take the entrance exams right, 158 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: and I could go on the GI bill, which I did. 159 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: I went studied accounting, literally, I mean, as fate would 160 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: have it. It was the first major in the book. 161 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: What is this? They said, you go with math? I said, yeah, 162 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: as good as anything. You're interested in business, Yeah, you 163 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: should try accounting. And I did, and I wound up 164 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: by graduating with a Bachelor of Science and Accountancy magna 165 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: cum laude. Wow, congratulations, I'd have never done that without 166 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: the Marine Corps never ever ever took the CPAZ and 167 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: passed it the first time. Got a job where I 168 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: would travel. I mean, my life is full of just 169 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: see coincidences. You know where. I was working for Commercial 170 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: Credit Leasing Corp. And this is back in nineteen seventy five. 171 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: They send me to Redwood City to schedule the assets 172 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: to this leasing company they want to buy. I finish, 173 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: I have twelve hours until the flight. I wind up 174 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: on Stanford Campus at the bookstore because I'd always like 175 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: to like to read, and so four and I buy 176 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: a book on programming in the Basic language, and uh, 177 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: I read enough of that during the layover and on 178 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: the flight, wrote my first programs and then got good 179 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: at it. Bought and the company that I worked for 180 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: had a dumb terminal that happened to run the basic 181 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: computer language. And then I taught myself Pascal and then 182 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: C and then C plus plus and I started my 183 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: first business, which was parts of technology, and I wrote 184 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: all the code for that. And I when I was 185 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: working there, I worked forty hours stant now sixty hours 186 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: stets sixty hours at a time. I come to work 187 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: Monday morning, worked through Tuesday morning, worked through Wednesday morning, 188 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: and at about eight o'clock at night, I'd start to hallucinate. 189 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: After about sixty hours, I'd hear stuff to win there, 190 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: maybe see move that I know didn't and I'd go back, 191 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: go to sleep, come back, you know, after eight hours 192 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: in a shower and a little actually little workout, do 193 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: it again. And that's how that company got off the ground. 194 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: I put forty thousand dollars into that company and I 195 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: sold it into it for sixty four million. That was 196 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: my first business. Wow. Yeah, you know, most people like 197 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: just reintegrating into society, like just kind of surviving seems 198 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: to be a natural challenge because of the extreme events 199 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: that people go through. How did you navigate that? When 200 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: you were talking about some of the challenges you had 201 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: when you came back, like how did you even just 202 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: start finding your way again? Because it can be so disassociating, 203 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: it can be so disconnected, well, you know, using that 204 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: term disassociate, disassociating. There was a time where I don't 205 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: seen a psychiatrist for a good while, and she said 206 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: told me one of the things that that has helped 207 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: me get through the war and also helped me in business. 208 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: She says, you have a remarkable ability to disassociate and 209 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: where I developed that. I don't know. One of the 210 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: blessings that I have is I don't worry about anything 211 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: at all. I just don't worry. And that has been 212 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: one of the things that to me, just helped bring 213 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: out the joy of my life. You know what joy 214 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: there was. I mean, that's beautiful toy here. That's what 215 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: an incredible gift to have to not worry. That's very special. 216 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: When you started learning and teaching yourself these coding languages 217 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: and you started building this company, what was your level 218 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: of business experience at the time or technology experience at 219 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 1: the time, and how did you even figure out what 220 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: you wanted to build. I think there's so many people today. 221 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: I just I literally was just at the Tech University 222 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: in Monterey, mex A. Fifty percent of the people from 223 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: that university going to become entrepreneurs, and so it's a 224 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: really phenomenal institution. But one of the biggest questions I 225 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: saw that young people have is, Jay, how do I 226 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: know if I'm doing the right thing or I don't 227 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm building or what should I focus on. 228 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: I feel like now there's so much choice that people 229 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: feel paralyzed by the amount of options they have. I 230 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: had a degree in accountancy, so I understood the record 231 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: keeping a business, right all right. I started a little 232 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: business which was more of a bookkeeping business than anything 233 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: where I'd work with these small businesses. Some were taverns, 234 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: one was a flower shop. One of my favorites was 235 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: a pest controls Best Control. The guy's name was Fat Willie. 236 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: I learned a lot from him, keep tracking, the way 237 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: he would keep track of things, and and I, you know, 238 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: and it got to the point whereover, you know, over 239 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, a few years, I could, you know, start 240 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: doing the records of a business and I could tell 241 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: you if they'd succeed or not. And anyhow, using those 242 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: little things that I learned there, you know, That's what 243 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: I did when I launched my business. And then plus 244 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: I learned, you know, I learned like, for example, I 245 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: read during the Civil War, right during the Civil War 246 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: in the Union, there was General McClellan who really trained 247 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: and organized the Union army, but he could not move 248 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: them into battle, just couldn't do it right. And then 249 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: so so Lincoln fired him and put Grant there. And 250 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: Granting care how they were organized. The enemies over there 251 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: go there, right, that's that's that's what he did. And 252 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: actually the right way is a mixture of the two, right, 253 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: So I learned that from them. I learned from John D. 254 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: Rockefeller that the guy who knows the most about his business, 255 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: he kept exceptional records. They were all manual, but he 256 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: knew everything about his business at a time when very 257 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: few people did. The guy who knows the most the 258 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: baddest business quite often as the guy that wins, because 259 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: as you know now, it's truly his power and especially 260 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: specific impertinent knowledge. So I mean I learned from from 261 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: people in history, right, and then beyond that I just 262 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: powered through. Yeah, I love those examples. I think what 263 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: I love about them is I often say to people 264 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: that you can be mentored by people you've never met. 265 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: When we study history, when we look at patents, when 266 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: we look at connections and start connecting the dots between 267 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: events that have happened before us, you can actually gone 268 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: as so much wisdom, in so much insight, even if 269 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: you never asked Rockefeller the question yourself exactly. I mean, 270 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: you know, and somebody get Julius Caesar's another one. Yeah, 271 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: you know what he was able to do and go 272 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: and how he was able to, you know, lead his 273 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: armies and one time he was attacked by a vastly 274 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: larger force and the battlements that he built was just brilliant. Right, 275 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: Nobody showed him how to do that. He figured it out. 276 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: So I mean, we have that ability as long as 277 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: you believe in yourself and you give yourself a chance. 278 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: If there's someone right now he's listening who's thinking about 279 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: starting a business, what would be the top three things 280 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: you think they should think about if they're starting If 281 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: they thinking about startying something, well, the first thing is 282 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: they should do something that they love, that is fun, 283 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: that is something that they're really interested in. And the 284 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: reason for that my father used to tell me. He 285 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: used to say, Robert, when you love something, that tells you, 286 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: oh it's secrets and that's beautiful. And basically, if you know, 287 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: if you love what you're doing, it's going to um, well, 288 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: we're going to work harder and that all translates to success. 289 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: And then let's see here, what would be the second? 290 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: You have to not be doing it for the money. 291 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: If if you start a business and you're doing it 292 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: just to turn a buck, I don't think you'd be successful. 293 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: You got to start it to be special. And the 294 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: businesses that I started and none of them even go daddy, 295 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: did I do it to make money? I did it 296 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: to make a difference. You know, when you you work 297 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: to make a difference, you know, you do things that 298 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: on the surface from a business uh standpoint, it doesn't 299 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: make sense. But when it comes to really doing something 300 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: special in getting your idea across and taking care of 301 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: your customers and so forth, that's that's what you need 302 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: to do, and you will never do that if you're 303 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: just doing it for a dollar. The third thing is 304 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: there's there's two groups of people that you have to 305 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: you have to energize. The first group as your employees. 306 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: And your employees, you know, they need to believe in 307 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: what you're doing and you need to structure it so 308 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: they can believe in what you're doing that it's special. 309 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: And again, if you're doing it for money, it's still 310 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna have difficult time doing that. But if you know, 311 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: if you have a higher purpose, right, people always do 312 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: want to aspire to a higher purpose, I believe. So 313 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: what happens is when you do that with them, it 314 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: creates enthusiasm. And what do we know about enthusiasm. It's contagious. Yeah, 315 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: and those the employees then fire up the customers, and 316 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: then the customers fire up each other. So it'll be 317 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: those three things. Yeah, those the great answers. I love 318 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: those three things. There's such great points. What was something 319 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: that you were passionate about with GoDaddy, Like when you 320 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: said that I fully agree with you that we should 321 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: never start business to make money. There has to be 322 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: a greater goal with it. What was that goal with 323 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: go Daddy when it started out? Like the part we 324 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: don't see. Well, when I started, Addie, I had. It 325 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: had been after I sold Parsons Technology, which was the 326 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: name of my first business, and I signed a non 327 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: compete with into it. Not that I couldn't compete with them, 328 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't work for money, yeah, right, for a few years, 329 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: and they held back a few a few million dollars 330 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: and when it was up, I just wanted to be 331 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: back in action again, but I didn't know what I 332 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: wanted to do. This was back when the Internet was 333 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: just getting going, like ninety seven, and so I named 334 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: this business Joe Max's Technologies. I had like thirty six 335 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: million dollars. I had gotten divorced I mean, I don't 336 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: blame her the PTSD. I'm lucky she kept me around 337 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: that long. So I wanted to do something in the internet. 338 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: So what I did was, I thought I would hire 339 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: some pretty sharp people and we would start trying things 340 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: on the internet, and and we and when we did, 341 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, if it worked, we would continue, and if 342 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: it didn't, we'd move on. And so I named the 343 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: Joe Max's Technologies after a dirt road that I drove 344 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: by on the way to work. I mean, it didn't matter. 345 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: I mean, we didn't do anything. So our employees would 346 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: go to Chamber of Commerce meetings and people would ask him, 347 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: what are you doing to go, Well, we don't know, 348 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, he said, I've never had a business. Tell 349 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: me that. And then eventually, as time went on, we 350 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: decided to start doing websites for people. And these are 351 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: a way or early really fundamental websites. And we noticed 352 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: that the website's business would would generate cash, but it 353 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: couldn't scale because you know, it was just your efforts 354 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: there that you were you were tied to. I have 355 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: a rule that if you got the right business, you 356 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: can make money while you're sleeping. Your business can be 357 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: successful while you're sleeping. So we then wrote software that 358 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: would build a website for people they could do it theirselves. 359 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: We had so many requirements. And then eventually in UH 360 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: in ninety nine or ninety nine and two thousand, we 361 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: became a domain name registrar, renamed the company go Daddy, 362 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: UH just as and and UH. I did that at 363 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: first as a joke, but it stuck and uh and 364 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: never did we dream that we'd make our our our 365 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: bread on domain names. And then there's there's a further 366 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: story going back. Okay, I would keep track of how 367 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: much money I had and and and then as and 368 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: tie that to how successful the business is doing. Now 369 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: that were remember that were the days of cash burn, right, 370 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: And so I would started And when I first started, 371 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: I said, I'm not going to worry about this business 372 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: until I get to thirty million, and then twenty five, 373 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: and then twenty twenty and then eighteen fourteen, twelve, ten, 374 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: eight six. You know, we get down to six million dollars. 375 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: And this is about you never raised It was only 376 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: your own money you put into it. Yeah, exactly, exactly. 377 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: It was always only my own money. I've never really 378 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: borrowed much from the first business none and Go Daddy 379 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: none and no partners in. Yeah. So I get down 380 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: to six million. And one of the things I learned 381 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: from read about General Grant he kept his own counsel. 382 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: I kept my own counsel. So I decided to shut 383 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: Go Daddy down while I still had some some money. 384 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: And the reason I had to is that dot com 385 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: boom was so loud that you couldn't buy advertising. I mean, 386 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: people were paying one hundred dollars for you know, a customer, 387 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: and the customer might generate two bucks. Well, you're gonna 388 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: burn up a lot of cash. And I don't care 389 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: how big your truck is, You're not gonna you know, 390 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to make ways. Yeah, that's 391 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: what I did. So I go to Hawaii and I 392 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: went there to first pay my bills, pay my employees, 393 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: and seld the assets. Figured out how I'm going to 394 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: do that. And then so I'm there by myself for 395 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: a week and as I started thinking about I don't 396 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 1: want to shut it down. I just had this feeling 397 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: I just didn't want to shut it down. The epiphany 398 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: for me happened with this guy is parking cars and 399 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: he comes up to me, and he goes, hey, no, 400 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: mister Parsons, this guy's a little older than me, throwing 401 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: his keys up in the air, happy as a lark. Right, 402 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, what's wrong with this picture? This guy has 403 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: probably got nothing his parking cars for a living. Look Out, 404 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: happy and free he is. I got six million dollars 405 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: that I'm miserable, right, And so I decided then that 406 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: I would go back and not shut the company down, 407 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: and I just would write it out and if the 408 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: company sunk, I'd go down with the ship. So that 409 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: was probably in Febric March. And later that later then 410 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: that dot com crash happened, and that dot com crash, 411 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: Go Daddy was born out of that because I was 412 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: one of the few guys that was paying my bills 413 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: and all these companies just went away. I mean I 414 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: would we would have checks returned every week from different 415 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: companies that just weren't there anymore, right, And so so 416 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: we would take and uh, you know, we'd go ahead. 417 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: And I went from not being able to buy advertising 418 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: at any price to having people standing in line to 419 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: give it to me. I had more friends than I 420 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: thought I had. And then all of a sudden things 421 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: turned around for us, and that October we became profitable 422 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: for the very first time and never missed a months since. Wow, 423 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: that's unbelievable. I mean, it sounds like you've been guided 424 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: so much by your intuition as well as data, Like 425 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: you talked about the numbers, you talked about knowing your business, 426 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: You talked about knowing your numbers. But it sounds like 427 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: you're also guided intuitively. Would you agree with that? Is 428 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: that is that true? Is that fair? Or not? Really? 429 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: You know, you sometimes you hear this saying better lucky 430 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: than good, and things just happen, and you know, you'd 431 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: like to believe they happen for a reason. I believe 432 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: the universe just guiding you, and I believe there's there's 433 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: an intelligence to it. You know, however you define that intelligence, 434 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: whether it's you know, a particular form of God or 435 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: or just the way of the universe, but I believe 436 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: it's sir. Yeah, that's incredible. What an unbelievable story. I mean, 437 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: as I'm listening to you, I'm thinking, you know, you 438 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: have this really positive mindset, you have this really incredible 439 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: ability to find the good even in challenging times. What's 440 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: been one of the biggest failures in your life, or 441 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: you know something that's gone wrong that maybe in business 442 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: or in another field that you learned a lot from 443 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: or you took a lot of insight from. I would 444 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: say one of the regrets I have is, you know, 445 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: when I came back and I got married and I 446 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: had kids, as I missed their childhood because I was working, 447 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: working so hard. You know, back then I had PTSD 448 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: so bad, I had a flash temper. So it's probably 449 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: some ways. You know, the hard thing is it's a 450 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: good thing that I wasn't around. But I have a 451 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: great relationship with all three of them now. I love 452 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,479 Speaker 1: them dearly and I look forward to treasure our time together. 453 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: That's incredible. Yeah, thank you for sharing that. I can. 454 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: It's interesting to hear about your experience that you weren't there, 455 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: but you're saying it was actually good. I wasn't there 456 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: because I had PTSD and I was dealing with that, 457 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: and I've I've heard in your journey you talk about 458 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: how psychedelics like a huge part of your coming home. 459 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: Could you could you walk us through how you got 460 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: introduced to that and how you open to that. In 461 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, I read Michael Palin's book How to Change 462 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: Your Mind. I went through it like a bag of 463 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: peanuts and I and I just told my wife, Renee, 464 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: who is the love of my life. I never did 465 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: psychedelics before in my life, never did them anything like that. 466 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: But I said to her, if this can do it 467 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 1: for me, I I mean, I I want to try him. 468 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: And I mean I got to the point, Jay where 469 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: somebody could come up to me and say, like at 470 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: the golf course and say, you were in Vietnam, weren't you. 471 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: I start crying. Yeah, I mean, it's just it just 472 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: it gets worse, you know. So she had me hooked 473 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: up in two weeks with two individuals that again would 474 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: see me in Hawaii and Uh. On the first day, 475 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: I did ayahuasca. And it's it's guided, you know. I 476 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: mean a lot of talk and the therapy that does 477 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: the healing. Psychedelics make it possible because it'll make you 478 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: receptive and it make you willing to change. So on 479 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: the first day it was ayahuasca. On the second day 480 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: it was magic mushrooms, UH, psilocybin. And you know a 481 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: little interesting aside. When UH the guide made the he 482 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: made a teapot, and he said, and he says, I 483 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: made this teapot holds three cups, and I made him strong, 484 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: so you'll only need one. I drank all three cups 485 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:42,719 Speaker 1: and I ate the tea bags extensione oh, man. I 486 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: was sailing, and then uh, you know, then a lot, 487 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: and then on the third day I took a break. 488 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: And on the fourth day it was LSD and afterwards 489 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: I was a different guy. I was totally a different guy. 490 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: The people that worked with me were like, what happened 491 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: to him? He's so nice, he doesn't have a Temporary's 492 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: not that intense scary dude anymore, you know. He uh, 493 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: my son said, told his wife. He said, man, I'm 494 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: worried my dad's going to die soon. And she goes whine. 495 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: He goes, well, I think he found that he's going 496 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: to die soon because he keeps calling and he's so 497 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: nice and so forth. I mean, it was that type 498 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: of thing. And of course Renee, my wife noticed it instantly. 499 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: And the best way I can describe it is after 500 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: being treated with psychedelics. It had been forty nine years 501 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: since the war, I finally came home. That's unbelievable. Do 502 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: you feel do you feel that you went back to 503 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: being who you were before the war exactly, you know, 504 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: enriched by everything I learned since. And you know, I've 505 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: still had the memories of the war. There's times when, 506 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, when I when I talk about it, I 507 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: choke up and so forth. But I'm not debilitated by 508 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: it anymore, but are still very much there of course, 509 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: of course. Yeah, it sounds like it sounds like that 510 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 1: you've kept the parts that have made you who you 511 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: are and left the parts that defined who it forced 512 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: you to be. If that feels right, Yeah, for sure, 513 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: to be honest, just sitting with you today, like you 514 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: have such a joyful spirit, you have such a like 515 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: positive outlook on life. You're fun to be around. Like 516 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: that's all I'm experiencing. That's how I experienced you at 517 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: PHG when I was there a couple of years ago. 518 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: And for me to know, it feels like this is 519 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: who you are, this is who you always were. But 520 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: naturally the challenges just clouded over and the experience is 521 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: clouded over that. Yeah, yeah, the windows have been opened. Yeah, 522 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: it's it's unbelievable. And is that a practice that you 523 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: have to keep up? Do you go back to Hawaii 524 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: or to the sentence to continue that practice. Will know 525 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: it was kind. You know, I've went through the process twice, right, 526 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: I've went through the process once myself and then once 527 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: with two of the guys that served with and they 528 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: both came home. Well, they both came home and somebody, 529 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: that must be beautiful for you to see that for 530 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: other people. That Now one of the things that I 531 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: spend time and money and help out as best I 532 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: can is um to get psychedelics made legal for therapeutic use. 533 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: We're very close with MDMA, thank god to Rick Doblin 534 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: and MAPS and you know the rest. I think it's 535 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: not too far behind. I tell you, when we do, 536 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be a renaissance. And we deserve that 537 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: as a people, and our veterans deserve it. Every veteran 538 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: should be treated with it when they come back. Because 539 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: the Veterans Administrations says thirty percent of the combat veterans 540 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: have PTSD. I'd be willing to say one to but 541 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: thirty percent are really good at pushing it down. That's 542 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: what I think. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, and it's 543 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: it's not surprising. I mean, like you said, like, no 544 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: one else can relate to what that experience is like, 545 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: no one else can understand it. And I mean that's 546 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: that's a lot to carry for the human mind, the 547 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: human brain, absolutely for sure, when those those two were treated, 548 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: and maybe you should have seen the tears, I mean 549 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: the tears, I mean, and it's like, oh, they were 550 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: carrying somebody were you know, they were there much longer 551 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: than I was. But you know, they carry a lot acrosses. Yeah, 552 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: what are some of the you know, from all your 553 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: experiences in life, You've lived so many different lives, it 554 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: seems as well, what are some of the mindsets or 555 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: approaches you think lessons that you think people should carry 556 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: with them. What are some of the mistakes people make 557 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: or what are some of the shifts in our mindset 558 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: we could make to live happier and healthier lives. You 559 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: need to believe in yourself, definitely, you need to believe 560 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: in yourself because you know, while there's many books, there's 561 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: no manual. You know what we talked about looking too 562 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: far into the future day at a time. And also 563 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: when you're doing stuff the best you can have fun, 564 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: have fun. You know, we're more productive when we have fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 565 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people today have a lot of self doubt. 566 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: When you said believe in yourself. When I'm traveling and 567 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: speaking and coaching people and meeting people, I know this 568 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: self doubt to be just such a big challenge when 569 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: you say believe in yourself. And I think so many people, 570 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: even if they act confident and they act secure inside, 571 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: there's such a low self esteem situation that we have 572 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: in the country right now, in the world right now. 573 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: Like if someone has self doubt or they they're feeling 574 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: like they don't have potential, they don't believe in themselves, 575 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: what would you say to them. I would say, there's 576 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: a couple of things they need to do that. Usually 577 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: they have self doubt for a reason. Usually they were 578 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: not encouraged, they were discouraged. Was they were raised, I 579 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: would think, And that that being the case, I would 580 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: I would say this, uh, this therapy with psychedelics, what 581 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: it's available, would be perfect because it would free them 582 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: from a lot of those shackles. Um and and there's 583 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: there's something that works just as good and it is legal. 584 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: It's gone an SGB block. Do you know about it? No? 585 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 1: I don't think. Okay, what an SGB block is it's 586 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: uh as S and G stands for Stelli ganglium and 587 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 1: then based in for block and and and what it 588 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: is is PTSD and all that stuff is because from 589 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: the amygdala in the front of the mine, okay, and 590 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: the amygdala manages fight or flight and emotions. Well, what 591 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: happens is as we go through all these unpleasant events 592 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: and so forth, it gets out of tilt and the 593 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: individual stays in a close to a fight or flight 594 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: type situation, which is what PTSD is and its stabilitating. 595 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: But the problem is with the human mind. The mind 596 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: hides its flaws from the person in which it resides. 597 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: They don't know it. They feel like they're just perfect, 598 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: except they have self doubt or they have anxiety or 599 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: their own edge or that sort of thing. That's the amygdala, 600 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:53,479 Speaker 1: all right. And so the amygdala communicates with the rest 601 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: of the body through the Stella ganglion nerves in the neck. 602 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: And when there's a fight or flight response necessary or 603 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: be it a real or emotional it releases adrenaline and 604 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: up and uphrin It speeds the heart up, It dilates 605 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: the lungs, It tightens the arteries and the extremities to 606 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: move blood to the core, all those things to get 607 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: us to survive that have been developed over millennia. Right, 608 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: it does all that. Well, what has happening is the 609 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: people that are suffering from this, they're in that state 610 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: very close and any trigger just pushes him right into it. 611 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: And they have no control over it. They have no 612 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: physical control over it, even though they say. You hear 613 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: people say, I don't know what's wrong with me? Right, Okay, 614 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: this is what the SGB block does is using it's 615 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 1: a medical doctor using ultrasound. Takes about five minutes. They 616 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: take and shoot the big brother elidacine in the neck 617 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: right next to the stella Gaian nerves. It numbs them 618 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: and when it does, the amygdala goes offline. It just 619 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: shuts down, and then the individual will get a little 620 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 1: droopy I talk like a sailor, right, and that sort 621 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: of thing. And then when it the numbing agent wears 622 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: off and the eye returns the normal and the voice normal. 623 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: The amygdala reconnects and it reboots, it resets and it 624 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: goes back to the way the individual should be, and 625 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: the difference is profound. All right, now, this is done 626 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: all over the Country's there's a you can find a 627 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: website called Stella Centers which will tell you about it. 628 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm not involved in it at all. I just know 629 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: about it and I help people get it done. The 630 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: people it changes their lives. I've helped. I've helped NFL 631 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: players do it. I've helped veterans. I've helped you know, 632 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: people that a little kids that are just having trouble 633 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: and goal and I mean stuff like that. It's amazing. 634 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: And there's only one downside. And the downside is when 635 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: it's not permanent. In many cases it'll be six months 636 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: or a year or two years. But here's what you 637 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: do when you start sliding back, get it done again. 638 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: I've had it done four times. I have probably helped 639 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty people get it done. Never had 640 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: one negative result. And everybody, it's just and they're all 641 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: veterans too, or just anyone, anyone, Yeah, and they're just 642 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you. You know it is. 643 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 1: It is just amazing, Bob. It's it's wonderful to hear 644 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 1: your spirit of you know, healing yourself, wanting to help 645 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: he allow this. I can see how much joy you 646 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 1: get in helping other people and seeing them break through. 647 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: Their challenges and what's holding them back. We end every 648 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: episod here with what's called the Final five, and these 649 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: five questions have to be answered in one word to 650 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 1: one sentence maximum. Okay, Bob Barston's these are your final five. 651 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: Question number one, what is the best advice you've ever 652 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: heard or received? Do what you love? Great answer? Second question, 653 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:25,240 Speaker 1: what is the worst advice you've ever heard or received? Oh? 654 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: My god, well, just words, can't lose. Question number three, 655 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: what's something you used to value but you don't value anymore? 656 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: You know, i'd say to a degree money. Question number four, 657 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,439 Speaker 1: what's something you're trying to learn right now or what's 658 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 1: something that you're working on right now that you're excited about. 659 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: H Well, I'm trying to learn what I can do 660 00:39:53,600 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: to get psychedelics legal in a in a medical co exactly. Yeah. Yeah. 661 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: Fifth and final question, if you could create one law 662 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: that everyone in the world had to follow, what would 663 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: it be? This sounds great, but it's and I don't 664 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 1: know how you'd make it a law. But I just say, 665 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: you know, if you love your neighbor, Yeah, that would 666 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: be beautiful. No, wouldn't it? Yeah, it would make the 667 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: world a much better place. We wouldn't have to have 668 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: so many people who have to go to war and 669 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: come back with PTSD and have to deal with the 670 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: repercussions of that. Yeah, Bob, it has been such a joy. 671 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,280 Speaker 1: It's such a pleasure to spend this time with you today. Honestly, 672 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: I meant everything I said. Your your spirit, your energy, 673 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: you know, the way you communicate, just just your smile. 674 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: It's truly just uh, it's infectious. It's very infectious being 675 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: around you. And I can't begin to imagine the journey 676 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: you've had to go on to rediscover yourself, to rEFInd yourself, 677 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: to to allow yourself to be yourself from before, and 678 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: it's it's unbelievable too to experience it. So thank you 679 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: so much for this honor and for this opportunity to 680 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 1: sit with you and have this conversation. Well, I gotta 681 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 1: tell you, it spin absolutely my pleasure. So thank you. Now, 682 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: you're very kind, Bob. Then, for everyone's been listening or watching, 683 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: make sure that you share the insights that Bob gave, 684 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: things that are going to stay with you, Messages that 685 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 1: you're going to pass on to a friend. I hope 686 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: that you'll pass this episode on to others as well, 687 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: makes you check out everything that Bob's working on as well. Bob, congratulations. 688 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: I know tonight you have a party to celebrate your 689 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: new partnership with PXG and Nick Jonas as well. I 690 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: hope that goes extremely, extremely well, And for everyone's been watching, 691 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: I hope you come back and listen to more episodes 692 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: of On Purpose, dedicated to helping you be happier, healthier, 693 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: and more healed. Thank you so much. If you love 694 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,760 Speaker 1: this episode, you will enjoy my interview with doctor Daniel 695 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,879 Speaker 1: Ayman on how to change your life by changing your 696 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: brain