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Speaker 2: It's the size of the fight in the dog. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to Big Bets on Campus Sources edition presented by win Bet.

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Speaker 2: My co host Action Network Zone Brett McMurphy. I'm Action

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Speaker 2: Network Senior writer Colin Wilson. My takeaway from week four

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Speaker 2: look ahead to Week five, Brett, I just have to

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Speaker 2: bring it up after your article that the coaches know

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Speaker 2: about the point spread. I got Pat Fitzgerald on my

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Speaker 2: list after scoring eighteen points in the fourth quarter to

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Speaker 2: cover a fourteen and a half point spread.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he would say that's a coincidence. That's pretty

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Speaker 3: much what every coach that I talked to said. They

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Speaker 3: did admit they get a lot of pressure from boosters,

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Speaker 3: from donors, especially in the hotel lobby night before the

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Speaker 3: game day of the game. What struck me the most

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Speaker 3: with that article is that none of the coaches, current

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Speaker 3: or former, one of their names used. Even though it's legal,

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Speaker 3: there's still this concern about being connected with covering the

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Speaker 3: spread for some reason. One coach told me, you know, look,

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Speaker 3: you know, if a booster asked me if I'm going

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Speaker 3: to cover, do you think I'm really gonna risk my

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Speaker 3: me a few hundred bucks. He goes, I'm not that stupid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Obviously, nobody is ever ever going to disclose that

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Speaker 2: they know what the point spread is, but there are

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Speaker 2: so I mean, you listened it out so perfectly in

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Speaker 2: when there's no reason to. When you actually have time

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Speaker 2: the game could be over. I think one thing that

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Speaker 2: I look at. I know Arkansas got beat by Gus

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Speaker 2: Mileson a couple of years ago while he was at Auburn.

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Speaker 2: This point spread was twenty nine and a half, and

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Speaker 2: with under two minutes left, Gus Malson is kicking like

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Speaker 2: to cover twenty nine and a half. So it's definitely known.

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Speaker 2: I think some other things for me, what a turnout

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Speaker 2: in the SEC. Here. We've got Auburn firing their wide

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Speaker 2: We've got Arkansas absolutely demolishing at Texas A and MS

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Speaker 2: Anything else kind of jump out at you this past weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just again what we talked about a little

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Speaker 2: Well? Clemson obviously, I mean even as we talk about this,

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Speaker 2: Like I'm off the train. Last week I thought they

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Speaker 3: I did it for you, Colling. I mean, look, you

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Speaker 3: gotta stop ignoring them. You could make a legitimate argument

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Speaker 3: not based on preseason expectations and all that, but simply

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Speaker 3: You can make a legitimate Arkansas, excuse me, a legitimate argument.

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Speaker 3: Please nobody record this because I don't want Colin to

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Speaker 3: put it back in my face. Arkansas could be the

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Speaker 3: nation's number one team. That's how impressive they have been.

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Speaker 3: I had them fifth. I think they fell in at eighth.

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Speaker 2: Martin and the Voles and Clint Sterner stumbling and fumbling.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's so comical to even suggest the

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Speaker 2: There's no question about it.

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Speaker 3: As far as Oklahoma, I think everybody's trying to figure

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Speaker 3: out what in the world has happened to Okloma's offense.

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Speaker 3: Two weeks ago, that was the fewest points the Sooners

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Speaker 3: They scored fewer points against West Virginia last week. Now

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Speaker 3: this will be a big game for the Big Twelve

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Speaker 2: Spencer Raller better signed as many autographs as he can

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Speaker 2: at one hundred and fifty dollars a pomp this week,

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Speaker 2: because that may not be have as much value going

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Speaker 2: into next week. Are you Brett? I don't know your

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Speaker 2: sleeping sched I know you're on the East coast. For

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Speaker 2: everybody listening, did you happen to watch your Arizona, your

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Speaker 2: Week one Arizona Wildcats that you love so much? Did

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Speaker 3: What was I watching? Maybe BYU USF. I live here

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Speaker 3: I text somebody today it looks like Michael Vick, except

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Speaker 3: he's faster, if that's possible. But no, Arizona. Look, they

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Speaker 3: covered for me in Week one against BYU. Since then,

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Speaker 3: But I don't know if they ever actually had any wheels.

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Speaker 2: Our friends in Tallahassee. Absolutely well. I think Oregon could

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Speaker 2: this Stanford team is so jekyl and hide. I don't

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Speaker 1: The Sources Speed Round.

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Speaker 2: This is the segment I get to ask Brett as

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Speaker 2: many questions as possible, and if I hear anything for

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Speaker 2: my gambling years, I get to ask Brett to explain

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Speaker 2: himself by calling a time out. Are you ready, Brett,

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Speaker 2: Let's do it all right? The clock starts now. Question one,

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Speaker 2: does Sam Pittman have any advantage in with his history

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Speaker 2: working under Kirby Smart, Yes, sir. Does Kirby Smart, though,

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Speaker 2: have a bigger advantage than Sam Pittman going up against

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Speaker 2: his old offensive lineman coach, Yes, sir, Yes, sir. Is

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Speaker 2: it enough for Arkansas to upset the Dogs?

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Speaker 3: No? Sir? All right, sorry, Colin.

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Speaker 2: Sam Pittman is extreme hands off. I think people need

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Speaker 2: It's Kendall Briles, you know, calling the offense for Arkansas,

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Speaker 2: and it's Todd Mounkins offense being called for Georgia. So

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any advantage here. But do you

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Speaker 3: To quote current Colorado State coach Steven Dazio, the Bulldogs

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Speaker 3: That's the difference.

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Speaker 2: Will Lane Kiffin be the first assistant to beat Nick Saban?

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Speaker 2: No way? Time out? All right, I'm calling a flag

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Speaker 2: line opens twenty limit bets out the door, Ole miss

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Speaker 2: is down to fourteen? And should I just write you in?

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Speaker 2: On Saturday on the BBOC Live show, the the Bama

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Speaker 2: Posters coming on up again?

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Speaker 3: I'm afraid. So, I mean, you know, Kiffin's offense is incredible.

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Speaker 3: He's going to put up a ton of points. You know,

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Speaker 3: I look at I think Saban they were folk again.

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Speaker 3: Is that the first half line? Give me the over?

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Speaker 3: Air Force and Colorado State to the American likely next week?

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Speaker 3: Forget about all the blockbusters this week. Must see TV

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Speaker 2: the fifteenth. Brett says, no, go, You're not in there whatsoever. Now.

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Speaker 2: There not much difference. Baylor comes in after an upset victory.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Let's see who else I got a big difference.

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Speaker 3: Now I just look, I reward teams when they win

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Speaker 3: Ohio State fans threatned my life after the Urban Myer story.

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Speaker 3: So it's still alive. But yeah, you don't feel comfortable.

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Speaker 3: forty years. He had a losing season in twenty sixteen

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Speaker 3: at Notre Dame. Do you know the other two years

434
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Speaker 3: he had a losing season.

435
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Speaker 2: I'll say Cincinnati and Central Michigan.

436
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Speaker 3: You got one right, Central Michigan. He was four and seven.

437
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 3: Never had a losing record at Cincinnati. The only other

438
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Speaker 3: time Brian Kelly had a losing record was at Assumption College.

439
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 3: He went seven and twelve as the women's softball coach

440
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty four. So there you go, the only

441
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Speaker 3: three times Brian Kelly's had a losing record.

442
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Speaker 2: Whatever we meet, I would Branks at a bar. I

443
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 2: am not getting into some trivia with you at what's

444
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Speaker 2: that right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brian Kelly broke Rockney's record and he started out

446
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 3: as a softball coach at Assumption College. Yeah, you know,

447
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 3: I'm in favor of execution. Maybe our entire team needs

448
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 3: to be executed. After tonight speaking to Brian Kelly, let's

449
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 3: go back in the time machine. Two thousand and nine,

450
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 3: I went to Cincinnati covered the Cincinnati pit game. He

451
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 3: had his weekly radio show at the Montgomery Inn. Tremendous

452
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 3: barbecue place, by the way. I highly recommend it if

453
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 3: you've never been there. It's jam packed. There's rumors about

454
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Speaker 3: him and Notre Dame. Cincinnati was playing pitt Two days later,

455
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Speaker 3: at the restaurant, Cincinnati was actually selling these red towels.

456
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Speaker 3: I used to have one. I looked, I can't find it, it, said,

457
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 3: committed to Kelly. They were selling them for five dollars each,

458
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 3: like they were going to sell enough towels to forward

459
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 3: this money to BK so he wouldn't go to Notre Dame.

460
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Speaker 3: After the show, I went up to him and I

461
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 3: asked him, I said, what's your response to all this

462
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 3: speculation about you leaving after the season to Notre Dame.

463
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 3: And he didn't like that question, and he said, why

464
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Speaker 3: can't a coach stay here a long time for a

465
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Speaker 3: long career, and he referenced Bobby Balladen at Florida State

466
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Speaker 3: and a couple others. Okay, so I wrote my story.

467
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 3: Two days later, Cincinnati trails thirty one to ten first half.

468
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 3: They come back and beat Pitt forty five forty four

469
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Speaker 3: behind wide receiver kick returner Marty Gilliard. Look them up

470
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 3: on YouTube. The kid was amazing and yes. Five days later,

471
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Speaker 3: on the night of Cincinnati's team banquet, Kelly accepted the

472
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Speaker 3: Notre Dame shop.

473
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Speaker 2: Of course, these you can't trust this when it comes

474
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: to injuries and where these coaches are going. You can't

475
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 2: can't trust anything. Any of these guys were saying, so,

476
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 2: but you're right, yeah, big game. Do you know who

477
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Speaker 2: you're taking on Saturday. I can't see a situation where

478
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Speaker 2: I'm taking Notre Dame. I'm probably going to be in

479
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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati boat by the time we come Saturday.

480
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Speaker 3: I mean, you look at all the numbers. You know,

481
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 3: we've talked about Notre Dame. We've talked you know, I

482
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 3: had zero yards rushing against Wisconsin Notre Dame had three, Okay,

483
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 3: but still you want you know that the magic of

484
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Speaker 3: the Irish, the second longest nation's second longest home winning streak,

485
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Speaker 3: and Cincinnati, you know they are not that good as

486
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Speaker 3: a road favorite. Yeah, they did take of Indiana, but

487
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 3: there was everything bounced their way against Indiana. I don't know.

488
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 3: I think I'm trying to find a way to take

489
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: Notre Dame. I wouldn't feel good about it because all

490
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 3: the numbers and everything else says Cincinnati should be the

491
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Speaker 3: play here. I was surprised. I remember texting you on

492
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Speaker 3: Saturday and you thought Notre Dame would be favored. Now

493
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 3: I see Cincinnati as a small favorite, So I'm gonna

494
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 3: have to go with the Stecky method and flip a

495
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Speaker 3: coin on Saturday.

496
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Speaker 2: Well, money definitely talks, and that's what's driving this market

497
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 2: right now. And I don't think it's going to stop

498
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 2: coming in on Cincinnati. But there is definitely a bye.

499
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Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm saying this. There's definitely a bypoint

500
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: on Notre Dame. And when I look at the advanced

501
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: stats on these two teams and standard down success rate defensively,

502
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: they rank ninth and eleventh, So what does that mean?

503
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of third and lungs, and

504
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: I think the handicap in this game comes down to

505
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: who is able to convert third down. So definitely that

506
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 2: is where my handicap has started today when I started

507
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: doing a deep dive. It's that these two defenses are

508
00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: tremendous on first and second down. Just it's again success rate.

509
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 2: So a lot of third and lungs coming up, and

510
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: whoever convert those is going to be the one that

511
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: wins this game. Last question, I got to ask you,

512
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Speaker 2: Maryland beats Iowa on Friday, are you going to drop

513
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 2: Iowa from a fifth all the way out of the

514
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Speaker 2: top twenty five? Do there?

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Speaker 3: They do have a win over Iowa State. I mean,

516
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: I don't preconceive I'm going to drop this team here there.

517
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 3: I would probably drop them between fifteen to twenty maybe

518
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: depending on what else happens. Certainly they're out of the

519
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Speaker 3: top ten, no question.

520
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,719
Speaker 2: And still can easily win the West and shake up

521
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: every and then Maryland.

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Speaker 3: Maryland would jump in the rankings too.

523
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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is great. I mean from a future's perspective,

524
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: I had over five and a half on Maryland going

525
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: into the season and couldn't be happy with the way

526
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Speaker 2: things are going. But this is Io. Yeah, yeah, this

527
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 2: is Iowa. Thing has got to come to an end

528
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Speaker 2: at some point.

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Speaker 1: This is your Heisman handicap.

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Speaker 2: The Heisman Trophy is awarded to all right, So this

531
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Speaker 2: is the Heisman handicap. These odds are via win bet Brett.

532
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 2: We're not going to just take a look at who's

533
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: going to win the Heisman and the odds on that.

534
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 2: Let's take a look at win bets top three to

535
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: finish for the Heisman Trophy. You know, that is a

536
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: bet where you can actually find some value because their

537
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: teams could find paths to be a college football playoff

538
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: contender or a one loss And if we find a

539
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 2: quarterback or i should say running back or wide receiver,

540
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: defensive player that has better odds and their team does

541
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Speaker 2: of winning the national championship, then obviously there is something there. Now,

542
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: you know, to make the top three in voting, Bryce

543
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: Young of Alabama and Matt corral of ole Miss are

544
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: minus five hundred to finish top three. The guy that

545
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: loses between Alabama and ole Miss. Because you've said it before,

546
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,719
Speaker 2: the Heisman is also team dependent. So let me ask you,

547
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Speaker 2: are you still considering the loser of this game in

548
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: your Heisman voting?

549
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean yes, because I have to put

550
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Speaker 3: my vote in next week. But you know, certainly, if

551
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 3: Matt Corral has more to gain with the win than

552
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Speaker 3: Bryce Young. If Bryce Young wins, Alabama wins, Young puts

553
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 3: up decent numbers, he's still on track. If Coral wins.

554
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 3: If ole Miss wins, Corral's got to have a monster game.

555
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 3: Will it vault him to the to the clear cut

556
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 3: favorite like it did Joe Burrow with LSU a couple

557
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: of years ago. Ole Miss still has some minefields the

558
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: rest of the way. I don't think they're gonna go undefeated.

559
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 3: How many losses or two losses are too many losses.

560
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 3: One guy on this list that I think has some

561
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: good value is JT. Daniels is plus nine hundred to

562
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 3: finish in the top three. Look, Georgia's defense is incredible.

563
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 3: They can run the ball. They you know JT, when

564
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 3: he's healthy, can put up some numbers. Well, guess what

565
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: if Georgia runs the table and beats Alabama for the

566
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 3: SEC title game and Daniels is putting up decent numbers

567
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 3: and Ole Miss has suffered three or four losses. JT

568
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: and Georgia won the head to head against Alabama. I

569
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 3: think Daniels has some great value to get there. So

570
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: if you I think, if you like Georgia to go

571
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,479
Speaker 3: thirteen and oh, I doubt you can get him at

572
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: plus nine hundred to win the SEC or even to

573
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 3: win the national title. So I think getting Daniels at

574
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 3: plus nine hundred to get in the top three again,

575
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 3: if you think they're gonna go thirteen and oh, because

576
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Speaker 3: I think that's his only path, I would absolutely take that.

577
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 2: Definitely has way better value than taking Georgia to win

578
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,239
Speaker 2: the national championship. A name on the SAT or the

579
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 2: SEC or that, Yeah, yeah, I think JT. Daniels is

580
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: that's very good value. That is an example of a

581
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 2: player that you'd want to buy instead of taking what

582
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: the team odds are for the futures. Another name on here,

583
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: but Jean Robinson for Texas is at twelve to one.

584
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: I've seen Texas at eighty to one to win the

585
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: national title, and I think if a running back is

586
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: gonna win this, they're gonna have to be that good.

587
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: So definitely I would pass on that number the one

588
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: that intrigues me here and I have to ask you

589
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: lean on your expertise as a Heisman voter. CJ. Stroud

590
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: took the week off to get healthy, but his numbers

591
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: are excellent. Does it matter that he took a week

592
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: off against Akron in your eye as a Heisman voter.

593
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. Nobody will remember that. Nobody will say, oh,

594
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: you didn't play against Akron. They'll remember what he did

595
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: against Oregon and they'll remember, you know, it'll mean more

596
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: what he does in the upcoming games against Penn State,

597
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: against Michigan and if they're in the Big Ten title game.

598
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's not like anyone. Look, I know more

599
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: people vote for the Heisman than vote for the US

600
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: presidential election, but I'm pretty confident that nobody that has

601
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: a ballot will consider.

602
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: That c J.

603
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 3: Stroud didn't play against Akron.

604
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: Other names up there, Casey Thompson moves from fifty to

605
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: one to thirty to one. This is thirty to one

606
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: to finish top three in the voting. If Texas runs

607
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: the table right and they and they win the Big

608
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: Twelve with one loss, I.

609
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 3: Think he's got a better shot than Robinson. I I

610
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: just think the Heisman's geared. It's become a quarterback award.

611
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: They say that Devonte Smith won it last year. But

612
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: it's going to take some kind of season like that.

613
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: I don't think Robinson's going to be able to put

614
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 3: up those kinds numbers. I think it would be more

615
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: Thompson and Thompson. You know, it helps to have a storyline.

616
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 3: Thompson wasn't, didn't start the season as the starter. He

617
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: came in. Does he save the long horn? Not to

618
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: save the season, but now does he lead him to

619
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: the to the Big twelve championship. I mean that's a possibility. Yeah,

620
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: I mean he's he's I don't have a stat in

621
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: front of me, but since since the Alamo Bowl, he's

622
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 3: led Texas on I think twenty three scores out of

623
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 3: twenty six or twenty seven drives. That's very, very impressive.

624
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 3: I doubt he can keep that going, but he can

625
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: make he can make a run, certainly if the Horns

626
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: can get past their nemesis Oklahoma and Dallas.

627
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Speaker 2: This is quickly becoming a pro Texas point of view,

628
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: is at least from my side. That's two weeks in

629
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Speaker 2: a row. Now I'm noticing things in the box score.

630
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: I know Texas put up seventy against Texas Tech, and

631
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: that's not really a big deal, but the offense that

632
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: they had coming into the season wasn't putting seventy points

633
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 2: up on anybody, and Sarka has changed the things around.

634
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: I think having Casey Thompson a quarterback is a huge

635
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: It's given to Jean Robinson room to run.

636
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Speaker 3: Also, uh wait, wait, wait, wait wait, wait, time I

637
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 3: get I get one time out. Okay, So how does

638
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: an Arkansas guy suddenly on the Texas banwagon. I'm sure

639
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 3: it has nothing to do with the fact that Steve

640
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: Sarkesian follows you on Twitter?

641
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: Does it? Listen? I appreciate Coach Stark's interest in what

642
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: we're doing over at the Action Network, and I wouldn't

643
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: want to do anything to offend him. But to be

644
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: completely honest, I got a fifteen year old who's looking

645
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: at going to ut He's he's going to be a

646
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: computer engineer, and he's thinking about living in Austin when

647
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: he gets out of high school. So having a son

648
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: go to the rival is like just the craziest thought ever.

649
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: But you know, your kids come before anything else, So maybe.

650
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: And when he and when he's at UT, they'll be

651
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 3: playing Arkansas every year.

652
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: I don't even know how that's gonna work out. I'll

653
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: see him down on sixth Street, either sixth Street in

654
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: Fabel or sixth Street in Austin. It'll be one of

655
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: those two. But I thought Casey Thompson not being named

656
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: the starter and what he did last year in the

657
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: Bowl game, I thought he was the or explosive quarterback

658
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: and that last drive he had against Arkansas kind of

659
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: lived up to what he was. I never had any

660
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: disbelief in what Sarks offense was. And so we'll see

661
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: how they go. That's a big game next week. Excited

662
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: to see it. Before we get off the Heisman talk,

663
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: I just have to say one thing. kJ Jefferson's not

664
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: on this list. kJ Jefferson doesn't even have a number.

665
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: I mean, Spencer Sanders is on here at eighty to one.

666
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: Brett kJ jeffersons not even on this list. But what

667
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: do we gotta do to get the dual threat quarterback

668
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: of two hundred and sixty seventy pounds throwing, can only

669
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: throw a deep pass and can only juke out the

670
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: entire front seven? What do we got to do to

671
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: get him some luve for the Heisman.

672
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be better if there's no lab so you

673
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: can you can grab a giant number and then if

674
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 3: it comes to fruition, you'll be the smartest guy in

675
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: the room.

676
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: You know what this is. How we're going to leave

677
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: this segment. I'm going to ask you. You have to

678
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: be honest with me or else I'll have to look

679
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: it up. Did you vote for Troy Smith or Darren

680
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: McFadden for Heisman back in two thousand and six.

681
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 3: God, I can't remember, but I think I voted for McFadden.

682
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still shocked that Troy Smith won won that Heisman.

683
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: Deren McFadden was easily the most vigable player.

684
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: All right, wait, don't get me started about how McCaffrey

685
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: didn't win the Heisman, because that was the biggest heisman.

686
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: You know, West Coast KIPA. I know, and I worked

687
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: at ESPN then, so I would watch every game in

688
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: the war room where we had twelve TVs from noon

689
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: to two am, and I saw McCaffrey and Stanford play

690
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: every single week. That kid was so freaking amazing. But unfortunately,

691
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: you know, ten nine or ten other games were after

692
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 3: you know, nine Easterns, so nobody saw him.

693
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: That's when you're back doing the show with Mac Brown,

694
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: who's having some struggles there with the Tarhells these days.

695
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 2: I wonder, yeah, I wonder how. I don't know if

696
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: Mack wants to get to retirement. If things don't work

697
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: out in North Carolina. We'll see. All right, Let's move

698
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: on to our last segment, the playoff payoff, the college

699
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: football playoff, payoff, playoff.

700
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 3: We'll talk about playoff you kidding me? Playoff?

701
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: So these odds are via win bet Brett. Before we

702
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: get into the odds to win the national championship through

703
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 2: the college Football Playoff, I have to ask you to

704
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: rank the one loss teams from Florida, Ohio State, Texas

705
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: A and m UCLA, Auburn, n C State. I think

706
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: the first question is is who's the number one one

707
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: loss team if the College Ball Playoff rankings came out today?

708
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 3: I mean n C State, I mean maybe Clemson.

709
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: Are you are you discounting the UCLA loss to Fresno

710
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: or are you discounting the NC State loss to Mississippi

711
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: State on the road.

712
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 3: I think they would actually give more value to the

713
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 3: NC State loss, and I think beating Clemson means more

714
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: than beating LSU, so I would again, I'm thinking how

715
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: the committee would think. I think I think they would

716
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: have NC State over UCLA, Texas A and m no

717
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: quality wins, Ohio State no quality wins, Florida hasn't beat

718
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 3: anyb It sounds crazy, but I think the Committee would

719
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 3: actually favor in C State at this point right now,

720
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 3: based on the Clemson win and the lost Mississippi State

721
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: over the other one lost teams five hundred to one

722
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,479
Speaker 3: via win bet to win the national title.

723
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: NC State. For those of you listening to mister Brett

724
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: mcmor for you hype up the wolf Pack, you know

725
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: that the.

726
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: Curse, the curse has been broken. According to Dave Dorian,

727
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: the Wolfpack curse has been broken.

728
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 2: Even the how some of the odds. The top four

729
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: I'll name off Alabama's plus one fifty, Georgia plus two hundred,

730
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: Ohio State fifteen to one, Oklahoma fifteen to one, Oregon

731
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: twenty to one, and then there's just a boatload of

732
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: teams kind of stuck in the middle. We talked about

733
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: like Cincy Penn State forty to one. Brett One of

734
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: the props that win Bet has up right now is

735
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: Alabama or Georgia minus one ninety five to win the

736
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: college football playoff. Now, there's a number of scenarios that

737
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: could happen here right Alabama or Georgia face each other

738
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: in the SEC championship game. One could lose, they could

739
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: both get in. They'll be seeded one and four. If that,

740
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. They'll be seated somehow magically one in three

741
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: or two and four so that they don't face each

742
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: other right off again. But there is outside possibility. These

743
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: are the two teams playing for the national championship. There

744
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: is an outside possibility that one of these teams makes

745
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: it to the championship game and they're minus five or better,

746
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: which would represent this number of minus one ninety five.

747
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: Would you take this prop on Alabama and Georgia or

748
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: would you bet the field?

749
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: I actually would take Alabama and Georgia. I don't like,

750
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: you know, having minus money on something like that, but

751
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 3: you know your example you gave, So you're basically saying,

752
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: if either one of these teams are in the championship,

753
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: they would have to be less than a five point

754
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 3: favorite for you not to have value in this play,

755
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 3: and you could have Alabama and Georgia meet for the title. Now, look,

756
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: neither team could get there also, but I think more

757
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 3: times than not, Alabama or Georgia will be in the

758
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: title game this year and the spread's going to be

759
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: more than five no matter who they're playing. You know,

760
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 3: you do, you do the numbers, You know that better

761
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: than anybody. So yeah, I actually, I actually think there's

762
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: actually value in that as opposed to taking the field.

763
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the reason why you have to

764
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: take Alabama or Georgia if you look at our power

765
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: ratings over at Action Network, Alabama's two and a half

766
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 2: points better than Georgia. So let me give you some

767
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: fictitious lines about what Georgia would be against the competition

768
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: of teams like three through six. Here, Georgia would be

769
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 2: six and a half points a favorite over Ohio State.

770
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: Georgia would be eight points over Oklahoma, eight points over

771
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 2: Penn State, and they would be nine and a half

772
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: against Florida, and they would be more than ten against Cincinnati.

773
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: So you know, when you correlate that minus one ninety

774
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: five as a championship game spread money line versus what

775
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: the spread would be there's definitely value in Alabama or Georgia.

776
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you add, you know, like you said,

777
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: ad two and a half points to Bama, and yeah,

778
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 3: it's I would would definitely be.

779
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: The play Yeah, definitely. So let's go ahead and talk

780
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: about some of the odds that we've got up here

781
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 2: now that we said the one loss would be n

782
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: C State probably, I mean, there's gonna be more one

783
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: loss teams coming up here real quick. I think Oklahoma

784
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: might be one of them after facing it.

785
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: And that's just and remember that's just right now. That's

786
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: not I'm not saying at the end of the year

787
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 3: that's my one one loss team. I'm just saying right now,

788
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 3: if they had to picked.

789
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: The playoffs, last chance to buy Cincinnati at forty to

790
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: one in your opinion, I have to say it. I mean,

791
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: it's a big game.

792
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 3: I'll answer your question before you answer it. Can twelve

793
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: and oh Cincinnati get in over any of those one

794
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 3: loss teams? The answer is no. And here's I'll make

795
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 3: it as succinct as possible. If Florida's the one lost team,

796
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 3: that means they beat Georgia and Alabama, that trump Cincinnati's

797
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: best wins of Indiana Notre Dame. If Ohio State gets in,

798
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: that means they beat Penn State, Michigan and then either IORA,

799
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: Wisconsin in the Big Ten title game Tech Saint m

800
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: gets in, that means they went out, they beat Bama

801
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 3: and then likely Georgia to win the SEC. Also LSU,

802
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 3: they would have defeated UCLA, maybe the only one that

803
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: Cincinnati could jump, because their best wins remaining would be

804
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: at Stanford and then again Oregon and then USC and

805
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 3: then again who emerges in the North even Auburn one

806
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: lost Auburn. If they went out, that means they will

807
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: have beaten LSU, Georgia, A and m Bama and whoever

808
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 3: they play in the SEC title game. In c State

809
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: already has the Clemson win, they would also have to

810
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 3: beat Miami North Carolina and then Miami and North Carolina

811
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 3: again in the ACC title game. I think the only

812
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 3: two teams that Cincinnati would have a legit chance to

813
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: stay above would be UCLA and NC State. But basically

814
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 3: the SEC and Big Ten teams, no way, no how,

815
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 3: don't shoot the messenger.

816
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 2: I think two teams that we got to pay attention

817
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: to Penn State. They're in the drive. I know they

818
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: have to go to Ohio State. You have to win

819
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: that game to make it into a Big Ten championship.

820
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: But at forty to one, I think those are pretty

821
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: good odds against the defense that hasn't figured anything out.

822
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: You can put carry Coombs up in the box all

823
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: you want, all you want, they have not figured anything out.

824
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: And then you know Arkansas I had I've had a

825
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: lot of questions, especially from my grandmother who's looking for

826
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: a new refrigerator.

827
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: One.

828
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 2: I mean, the Christmas is coming up, right, I mean,

829
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: there's a lot of mouths to feed around here. I

830
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: gotta parse out the gifts. Artista's eighty to one, and

831
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 2: I've had a lot of questions about it this week.

832
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: And frankly, the points spread that it is suggests that

833
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: Arkansas's chances of winning this weekend are about eleven percent.

834
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: So if you want to take that, and this game

835
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: doesn't even mean anything, Brett.

836
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 3: They're saying there's a chance if.

837
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: They lose this game they can still go to the

838
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: College Football Playoff because remember, you got to beat Bama.

839
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: You're not going to the SEC championship game unless you

840
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: beat Alabama.

841
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 3: You're right, you got to beat Alabama no matter what

842
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: happens with this game.

843
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: There are books out there that allow open parlays. And

844
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: when I say open parlays, that means I'm going to

845
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 2: make it a five team parlay and I to come

846
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,959
Speaker 2: in and pick the teams whenever I want.

847
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: And if you really Arkansas for the next five weeks.

848
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying, if you really think Arkansas

849
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: can win the National championship, then you need to open

850
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 2: up a parlay. It open parlay for about four spots,

851
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: and you're gonna start with Alabama and then you're gonna.

852
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: Wouldn't you make more money though, if you just took

853
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: Arkansas on the money line and rolled it over every week,

854
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 3: because I've heard some people talk of that about that before,

855
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 3: as opposed to tying it up in a parlay. If

856
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 3: you just take the money line and roll it over

857
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: every week, it would actually exceed whatever you would win

858
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: off the off the parlay. But of course, if you

859
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: do that after three or four weeks, you're gonna have

860
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 3: this big bank roll and go, Wow, maybe I should

861
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: stop right here, or do I keep going.

862
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: I've actually done that a few times where the number

863
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: of wins gets so high for the ticket that you

864
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: bought that you just kind of push off and go

865
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: and take like you know, some guy some team that's

866
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: on the board that's like minus thirty five favorites and

867
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: in the parlay. So you know, you have to be

868
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: kind of an artist when you're building these open parlay spots.

869
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 2: But when you consider what eighty to one is, you

870
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 2: can get to that real fast. With Arkansas schedule long

871
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: shots on the board that are still undefeated. We mentioned

872
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: NC State down at five hundred to one is an

873
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: undefeated BYU going to the College Football Playoff too, And

874
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 2: I asked that.

875
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, no, they can't. I mean they play

876
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: seven Power five opponents. But then you look at the

877
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 3: rest of their schedule. You know, you tossed a USF

878
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 3: couple other teams. Again, if when you're comparing them with

879
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: a SEC or Big ten school, the schedule does not

880
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 3: match up with those schools. What if Cincinnati and BYU

881
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 3: run the table, who will the committee rank higher? I

882
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 3: would think they would rank based on what they've done

883
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 3: in the past. I think they would rank BYU higher

884
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: because they would have seven Power five wins. You know, yeah,

885
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: they're all from the PAC twelve but they're still Power five,

886
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: so it's almost like they played a league schedule with

887
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: seven in Power five games. Cincinnati would have two wins

888
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: against Indiana Notre Dame UCS, the next best team on

889
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: their schedule, but they're not ranked. So that yeah, that's

890
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 3: that would be fascinating if that happened. To see where

891
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 3: the committee fell with BYU and Cincinnati.

892
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 2: I've wondered ever since his introduction of the College Football Playoff,

893
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: are we trying to get higher TV ratings with some

894
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: of the with the rankings and some of the teams

895
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 2: and the talk, because does BYU or Cincinnati draw enough

896
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: eyeballs for a January first, you know game that precedes

897
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: what the Rose bull I mean.

898
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 3: I've actually been on the mock Playoff selection committee a

899
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: couple of years, and it basically you do a past

900
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 3: season and you go through the whole process, not a

901
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 3: you know, five week process, but in one afternoon, you

902
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 3: go through the process of ranking the teams, and believe me,

903
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 3: all of the numbers and information you look at, I

904
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 3: really really doubt. Again, I can't speak for people that

905
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: are on the committee. I know when I went through

906
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: the I didn't even consider TV rankings I looked at

907
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 3: who had they beaten, what's their toughest wins, their worst

908
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 3: loss for the game's home road, margin of victory, game control,

909
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 3: whatever words you got to throw out there. I really

910
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 3: I know the conspiracy I look, I love conspiracy theories.

911
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: They're they're not picking teams based on TV ratings, as

912
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 3: much as we would love to think that, they're simply

913
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 3: going to pick the better teams. Now, you could argue, well,

914
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 3: why don't they pick a Group five team, Well, they

915
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 3: don't have as tough a schedule as the Power five teams.

916
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 3: And also, by the way, the Power five teams also

917
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: draw more eyeballs, But they're getting picked because of the

918
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: tougher conference schedule and overall schedule, and not because of

919
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 3: the number of eyeballs, although it makes for a you know,

920
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 3: makes for a good conspiracy theory.

921
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: Well, that's good news for a team like NC State,

922
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: because I believe I read an article where it's cd

923
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 2: ESPN's not allowed to say the word Rawley anymore because

924
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,080
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925
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:02,920
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Speaker 2: to the show. If you had to pick a national

941
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Speaker 2: champion right now, let let's end with this. I think

942
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: Georgia is still win the national championship. I said, Georgia

943
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: Oklahoma National Championship game. I still think Georgia's win the

944
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: national Championship? Are you veer an offer still staying with

945
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946
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: I mean I picked Alabama for the season. I'm not

947
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 3: gonna I'm not gonna change every week I'm gonna stick

948
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: with them. But you know, Georgia is much much better

949
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: than I anticipated them being. And you know, like you said,

950
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: it'd be it basically a less than a field goal

951
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: game on a neutral site. That sounds right. You know, Look,

952
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: this is only September. I think we'll have a much

953
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 3: better idea in a couple of weeks. But I certainly

954
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: don't feel as confident as I do about Alabama before

955
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 3: the season. If they're not the best team right now,

956
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 3: Georgia's one A, then Alabama's one B. But I still

957
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: think I still give Alabama the slight edge.

958
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree. Like we said before, they're both

959
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: power rated well ahead of everybody else, and a lot

960
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: of teams are about a touchdown less than both of them.

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