1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie Podcast. I 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: am your host Movie Mike today. Oh it's a special episode. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: One of my favorite movies of all time is Twister, 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: and I get to talk to the director, John Devont. 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna be awesome. I want to get this episode 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: started right away so we can get into that interview. 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: In the movie review, I'll be. 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: Talking about Austin Butler's performance in The Bike Riders and 9 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: what made that movie difficult. 10 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: To watch for me. 11 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: And in the trailer park, we are dipping into the 12 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: horror genre once again because a movie called Long Legs 13 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: is being described as the scariest movie of the year, 14 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: and I want to share some haunting sounds from the 15 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: trailer with you. So thank you for being subscribed. Shout 16 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: out to the Monday Morning Movie crew. 17 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: And now let's talk movies. 18 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 3: In a world where everyone and their mother has a podcast, 19 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 3: one man stands to infiltrate the ears of listeners like 20 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: never before in a movie podcast. A man with so 21 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: much movie knowledge, he's basically like a walking imtb Wood's 22 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: glasses on the Nashville Podcast Network. This is Movie Mike 23 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: Movie Podcast. 24 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: About to get into my interview with Jan Debond, who 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: is the director of the original Twister, which came out 26 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: back in nineteen ninety six, almost thirty years since this 27 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: movie has been in existence, and it is the movie 28 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: in my filmography of watching movies that I have watched 29 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: the most. If you are a listener of this podcast 30 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: and part of the movie crew, you know how much 31 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: I love this movie. Talk about it all the time, 32 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: and still to this day, I rewatch it with Kelsey 33 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: at least once or twice a year. For the longest time, 34 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: my brother and I refer to this movie as our 35 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: sacred movie because we felt like it was a perfect 36 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: film that could not be touched. And I'll even talk 37 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: about in this interview why this movie was so special 38 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: to me. So I have seen it a record amount 39 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: of times. But if you've never seen it, first of all, 40 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: where have you been? It is the disaster film in 41 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: my opinion, because it goes way above just being a 42 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: movie about people racing twisters. There is so much more 43 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: there to dig into. Or if you haven't seen it 44 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: in a while, you're in luck because it has been 45 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: fully restored and it's coming to four k UHD for 46 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: the first time on July ninth, and for me, I 47 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: love it when movies get restored because it almost feels like, 48 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: even though you can't erase a movie from your memory, 49 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: when it is restored, you can go back and maybe 50 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: catch things that are a little bit more clearer on 51 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: the screen because they've been restored. So I feel like 52 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: it's the closest you can get of rewatching something for 53 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: the first time. It'll also be available everywhere digitally on 54 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: July ninth on Prime Video, Apple TV, and more. You 55 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: want to go watch it before the new one comes out, 56 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: I highly recommend it. But right now, here's my conversation 57 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: with director yondbant Hey. 58 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: It is Mike from Moving Mike'sweet podcast. 59 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 4: How are you? 60 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: I am great. 61 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: I just want to say that Twister is one of 62 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: my favorite movies of all time. It is the only 63 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: film out of any movie that I've seen over fifty times. 64 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: I make a point to read Wow. 65 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: Since I was a kid, I watched this movie, and 66 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: the reason I have so to bond with it is 67 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: I grew up in a trailer park and I was 68 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: terrified of tornadoes, and by watching Twister, because if a 69 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: tornado came through the trailer park, we were done for 70 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: So I was always freaked out watching the news. 71 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: I just had all this. 72 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: Anxiety, and I would watch Twister because it almost helped 73 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: me deal with that anxiety. If I can literally watch 74 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: the worst possible scenario of what could happen, it kind 75 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: of helped me work through that. So that is why 76 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: I've seen it so many times. 77 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 4: Oh wow, wow, Wow, that's amazing. I mean, I mean 78 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 4: I never heard somebody saying it for fifty times, but 79 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 4: that must be a record bike that. The funny thing 80 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 4: is that it is still a very watchable movie. It 81 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: still feels like it could happen today. And the way 82 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 4: it is filmed, the excitement, and the cast they all 83 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 4: like still today's people. They're not like from a different period, 84 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 4: even though thirty years ago. I think that's why it's 85 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: so relatable. It's very relatable this movie. I mean, everybody 86 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: can see themselves more or less being a storm chaser, 87 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 4: being want to be that. Everybody likes danger. There's some 88 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 4: some to some decree and that both wouldn't want to 89 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: go that far bad people who are really willing to 90 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 4: go in cars and drive towards that's pretty insane situation, 91 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: and but they exist. And they are they are they 92 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 4: love it, but they also they love the science line 93 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: it too. I was fired someone that met a lot 94 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 4: of them. That is not only the fact it's not 95 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 4: only the the the adrenaline that that it creates. It's 96 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: also really like we really want to see and photograph 97 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 4: it and show to people. And that was really pretty 98 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 4: surprising to to to to really to really see that happen. 99 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 4: It's really good. 100 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: And I think the other thing is it's not just 101 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: a movie about people chasing tornadoes. It's also a story 102 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: of all these people who are just friends, but also 103 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: the story of Bill and Joe of going there to. 104 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: Get the paper signed. 105 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: That's the whole reason he shows up back there, and 106 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: you have that threat throughout the entire movie, of the 107 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: tension between them. I think it's something I probably didn't 108 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: appreciate as a kid. As an adult I understood it 109 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: and how that was really that was the story. You 110 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: could almost make a movie where you take away the 111 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: twisters and it's just Bill and Joe. 112 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 4: You could make a movie like that. That wouldn't be 113 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 4: as exciting, I think. But no, but of course that 114 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 4: is that is true. Of course that's whole that whole 115 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 4: idea of that team and how they get along, and 116 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 4: the relationship to Bill and and and and and talent 117 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 4: that was like that was that was the story, that 118 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 4: was the plot, and and how that kind of they 119 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 4: started in intermingle more and more and more and and 120 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 4: and because seeing that happen, that's also because it got 121 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: closer again, of course, and youvolve when you wasn't in 122 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: danger and other people have to come and help you. 123 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 4: It is it's changed relationships and shape bombs. 124 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: So when it comes to just the camaraderie that you 125 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: feel from the cast, I think the best example of 126 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: that is the breakfast scene where everybody just they're having 127 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: literally what looks like the best meal ever, and you 128 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,119 Speaker 1: just feel that bond between everybody. Everybody gets their moment 129 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: to shine, everybody's getting in their jokes. What was it 130 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: like filming that scene. Was it a much larger scene 131 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: that was cut down to what we saw in the 132 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: movie or was it all on the page? 133 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 4: It was most of it was on the page, And 134 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 4: also quite a bit was improvised because I told them 135 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 4: what I said, this is okay if you step on 136 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 4: somebody's line, if you want to say, just jump in 137 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 4: and then you can come back to that later and 138 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 4: let that all happen. And when you have a bunch 139 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 4: of people that get along really well, they are fine 140 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 4: with that. They wouldn't get mad as you if you 141 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: just stap on somebody's line, they would just come back later. 142 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 4: And so I really wanted that to happen. Said, don't 143 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 4: be afraid. It's a fun scene. It has to be 144 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 4: a fun scene for you guys having a great time. 145 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 4: You having a really great meal after being in the field, 146 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 4: not eating anything or just cookies whatever, what you have 147 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: in the truck. 148 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 5: But this is like a really a scene in which 149 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 5: showcase of friendship, and they're the friendship in the way 150 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 5: that everybody accepts the sort of weaknesses and strengths, and 151 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 5: it becomes like one one group. 152 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: The whole scene is based but the group and nothing else. 153 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 4: And I agree, I love that scene. I really totally, 154 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 4: really really excites me. It's still fun to once. 155 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: Was that your philosophy throughout the other parts of making 156 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: the movie, aside from that of letting people improvise, since 157 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: you do have these just huge personality Bill Pax and 158 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: Philip Tymore Hoffman, and they're doing these scenes together. Were 159 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: you okay with them just throwing different lines in there 160 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: that were in the. 161 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 4: Script, Yeah, but only only if they still would would 162 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 4: move the movie forward. I mean sometimes it came up 163 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 4: with sentences or I mean never long sentences, so that 164 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 4: that actually would help to see and then I definitely 165 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: let them do it. I mean that the screenplay is 166 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 4: like based on a little bit how storm chasers talk. You know, 167 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 4: we we listened to them many times and we met them, 168 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 4: and so it has had to resemble that. So and 169 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 4: does people stalk, no to stop? Basically all of them 170 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: they all talk at once and then and you pick 171 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 4: up something that you pick up something him or her. 172 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 4: So it is it is. 173 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 6: It is a little bit like the same way as 174 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 6: they would act in real life. And Bill, if they 175 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 6: would have been, if this would be all real storm Chases, 176 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 6: pe wouldn't talk much different. 177 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: Being that I have seen the movie over fifty times, 178 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: I know every single scene down to the every single line, 179 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: and for me, there was nothing, there's nothing I would 180 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: change about the movie. I think it is a perfect film. 181 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: But for you, now, almost thirty years since it's been out, 182 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: how often do you rewatch it? 183 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: And is there anything you would change. 184 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 4: It's a question that I've been asked many times. Is 185 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 4: it going to be a director? Scott always asking me 186 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 4: directors to what do you mean? Well, I'm really big 187 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: director makes directors. Now everything is in the movie. This 188 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 4: is my movie. I don't have anything. I don't want 189 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 4: to put any deleted scenees in. We work really hard 190 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 4: to make this and this works perfect. Why would you 191 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 4: add seen or take things out that either already work 192 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 4: and change it with something else. I mean, there was 193 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 4: at one point there's some studios were worried about about 194 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 4: that the audience would not understand the idea of getting 195 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 4: those little balls in the air with a little and 196 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 4: they had to be explained exactly they see it. They 197 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 4: don't have to You don't have to explain they can't 198 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 4: see goddam happening. So why would you really, really really 199 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 4: haven't seen? And people explaining that, and I had to 200 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 4: film it. But then also most of it restrow back 201 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 4: argant because it was completely redundant, and because the whole 202 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 4: thing is a little bit It is not only a 203 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 4: movie and told by sentences, by by dialogue. It's about 204 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 4: the whole physical reaction to of all the people towards 205 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 4: what they what they encounter. It's there to get onness. 206 00:09:54,480 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 4: It's there that being upset or angry at disorder and 207 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 4: them getting changing again. That was that was my whole call. 208 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 4: I didn't want any anything that looked like a real movie, 209 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 4: like a regular movie. It should see, not a real movie, 210 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 4: like a react of what you people sit down and talk. 211 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: It's like even that. That's why the scene on the 212 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 4: tape because they sit around the table, but then he 213 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 4: sent up and not sent up, and he grasps over 214 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: the table and give me some of that. So they're 215 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 4: almost doing things while they havn't. This discussion, this funny discussion, 216 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 4: and that's I love that. I think it's so good. 217 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: So there's nothing you would change. 218 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: But that was the most physically or not physically, but 219 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: just the most the hardest scene to just tackle that 220 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: had maybe a lot of production elements to it, or 221 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: it were just so time consuming. You're like, that almost 222 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: killed us, but we got it in. 223 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 4: There Actually just quite a few of those things because. 224 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: There was a lot of practical effects too. 225 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 4: It was at the special effects like for instance, like 226 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 4: when the combine has fell from the air and the 227 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 4: tractors fell from the Yeah, to really get that timing eye, 228 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 4: there's a helicopter really flying clothes over the cars, and 229 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 4: and there's Helen and Bill driving the car and they 230 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: had to maneuver that way around. I mean, the thing 231 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 4: would fall down and it could fall down there, and 232 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 4: they quickly would have to react and respond to that. 233 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 4: So I was filming them at the same time as 234 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 4: that as when it as when it happened, so that 235 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 4: I would have the responses to the real action in 236 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 4: front of them. And of course we I had such 237 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 4: good relationship and with special effects, I knew it was 238 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 4: gonna be okay, especially the pilot, and I communicate with them, 239 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 4: but I was I sat in the car with them too, 240 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 4: by the way, but it's happened. So you sit in 241 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 4: the car and you measure and now and then I 242 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: knew how many seconds it would take to hit the ground, 243 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 4: and then I let so. And when Bill heard me say, now, 244 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 4: they knew something was going to happen, but not exactly what. Yeah, 245 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 4: and that boom that the combinder file and those things 246 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 4: that was really cumbersome to set up and really have 247 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 4: this so many moving parts, and that was tough, and 248 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 4: I was so happy that that was done. 249 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really appreciate the time. 250 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm now gonna go watch it for a fifty first time, 251 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: So thanks for. 252 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: Talking to me. Okay, that was awesome, y'all. 253 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: I hope I didn't fanboy too much there. There was 254 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: so much more I wanted to get into with him, 255 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,239 Speaker 1: but obviously only. 256 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: Have a limited amount of time. 257 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: The one thing that I didn't get into that I 258 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: wanted to I wanted to share with him my favorite 259 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: quotes from the movie and get some behind the scenes 260 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: about it. 261 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: But since we ran out of time, I will share 262 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: with you. 263 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: Well. My top three quotes are from Twister at number three. 264 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: My favorite scene in the movie that doesn't involve a 265 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: Twister is the one we were talking about earlier during 266 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: the interview when they all go to Meg's house that 267 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: have breakfast, and this is the quote that gets us. 268 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 4: There food. 269 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: We are absolutely not going. That is one that I 270 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: would quote a lot every time I was hungry. I'd 271 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: be like food, food, crave sustenance. 272 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: That is number three at number two is a classic 273 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: and involves my favorite character in the movie that isn't 274 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: a human, that isn't a Twister. It is the cow 275 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: I gotta go, Julia, we got cow. And then when 276 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: they see the other cow, another cow. Now, actually I 277 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: think that was the same one. I don't know whose 278 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: idea it was to put the cow scene in the movie, 279 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: but it provides such a great little moment of comic relief. 280 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: And also the cow ended up making the poster on 281 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: a lot of different variant covers because if you get 282 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: the new four k UHD you see the cow up 283 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: there too. So I always love that quote, but at 284 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: number one we'll say it as a curse word in it. 285 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: But it's probably the quote out of the entire movie 286 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: that I have said the most. It is whenever Bill 287 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: Paxton is driving. Bill Paxton is at his best in 288 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: this movie. When he's delivering just a vulgar line, he 289 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: really gets into it. I love his performance in this movie, 290 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: and this by far is the best example of that. 291 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: This entire sceneonas son of a Bitch, What is that, honey? 292 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,239 Speaker 3: Jonas Miller, he's a nightcrawler. 293 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 5: We all start out in the same lab that Jonas 294 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 5: went out and got himself. 295 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: Some corporate sponsors. He said it for the money, not 296 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: the science. 297 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 5: He's got a lot of high tech gadgets but he's 298 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 5: got no instakes. 299 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: And he doesn't have Dorothy. 300 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: I love that quote. 301 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: Probably my follow up to that one when it comes 302 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: to a Bill Paxton quote is whenever he goes to 303 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: fight Jonas and he's like, Jonas, you took her, your 304 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: damn thief. 305 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: So that was my top three. That was the interview. 306 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna post a clip of it on my TikTok Instagram, 307 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: Facebook and X if you want to go over there, 308 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: comment with the secret emoji, which this week, of course, 309 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: it is gonna be the Tornado Twister emoji. Comment with that, 310 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: and I will pick next week's listener shout Out of 311 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: the Week from those comments. We'll come back with a 312 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: spoiler free review of The Bike Riders. Let's get into 313 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: it now, a spoiler free. 314 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: Movie review of The Bike Riders. 315 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: This is another movie that got me with a TikTok ad. 316 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: I was scrolling through my for you page and I 317 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: saw one of those sponsored ads. Sometimes they get people 318 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: to review movies, they pay them, and I never watch 319 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: anybody's review going into a movie because I don't want 320 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: any outside influence. 321 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: I want to have all my own thoughts. 322 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: But I stopped on this one just because I saw 323 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: it was sponsored, and the very first thing this person 324 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: said was one of the most anticipated movies of the summer. 325 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: And I kept scrolling right after that when I realized 326 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: they were talking about the Bike Riders, because I didn't 327 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: want to hear it. But also, this is not one 328 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: of the most anticipated movies of the summer. It's been 329 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: out a couple weeks now. At this point, I'm recording 330 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: this a little bit ahead, fresh off of just seeing 331 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: it the opening weekend. There was no buzz around this movie, 332 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: and Austin Butler is arguably one of the biggest actors 333 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: right now, fresh off of Dune. 334 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: He was Elvis. 335 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: I think this is the first time so far that 336 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: I've not really seen him do. 337 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: That Elvis voice. 338 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: It was released at a time where maybe studios were 339 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: afraid of inside out to having just a dominant second week. 340 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: So hey, let's put up something that's a little bit 341 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: counter programming, appeals more to men. Maybe we can sneak 342 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: in there and have a bit of a sleeper pick. 343 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: Opening weekend made about ten million dollars, so maybe that 344 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: didn't pan out so well. And I'll say at the 345 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: beginning of this review, because I'm gonna get into a 346 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: lot of the negative. Overall, I don't think it was 347 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: a terrible movie. I just think there wasn't enough story 348 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: to warrant a two hour movie. What this movie is about. 349 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: It's based on a book of this reporter that traveled 350 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: around with a Bite gang, based on the real life 351 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: Chicago Outlaws motorcycle club that rayan rampant in the nineteen sixties. 352 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: They took that book turned it into a movie. Austin 353 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: Butler plays a guy named Benny who is in the 354 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: motorcycle Gang. 355 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: He is this outlaw, a guy who plays by his 356 00:16:59,600 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: own rule. 357 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: Rull was a loose cannon, really one of the wildest 358 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: people in this motorcycle gang. Tom Hardy plays the head 359 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: of the club and he was like the father figure, 360 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: the one everybody has to turn to to make any 361 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: decision in the club, and overall supposed to be a 362 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: pretty tough dude. And then Austin Butler's character falls in 363 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: love with the woman played by Jody Komer who she 364 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: ends up being the one narrating this entire movie. So 365 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: it is a oral history of the motorcycle Gang. You 366 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: have the actual interviewer, which is one of the guys 367 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: from challengers interviewing her, primarily her voicing. 368 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 2: Over a lot of the dialogue. 369 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: Telling a lot of the story through that interview, and 370 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: then you also have the reporter interviewing other people in 371 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: the motorcycle gang. So that is not really the format 372 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: I was expecting based on the trailer I saw. I 373 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: thought it was just going to be a straight ahead 374 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: motorcycle greaser movie, which there really aren't a whole lot of. 375 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: If I had to compare it to some of the 376 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: best ever made, you got to go back to movies 377 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: like The Outsiders, even movies like Greece, which is more 378 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: of a comical type of movie as far as it 379 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: doesn't really take the motorcycle Gang that seriously. It's just 380 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: a fun musical. So I think there's always a really 381 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: really fine line to walk when making a movie about 382 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: a motorcycle gang, especially taking place back in the sixties. 383 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: How do you make it feel real and how do 384 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: you make it just have a sense of authenticity. So 385 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: maybe that's why they decided to tell it this way, 386 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: because they wanted to base it on the book. They 387 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: wanted it to be as accurate, even though they don't 388 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: use the Chicago Outlaws motorcycle club name. 389 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: They are called the Vandals. 390 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: The problem I had with the format of this movie 391 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: is by doing it through interviews and having this voiceover, 392 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: it took away a lot of impact, hacked throughout moments 393 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: of the story because you have the narrator telling you 394 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: exactly what is going to happen before you even see it, 395 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: taking away some of that impact. There were a lot 396 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: of moments that I felt were greatly spoiled because it 397 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: was her saying so and so happened to this character, 398 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: and then you're like, well, that happened to that character, 399 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: and then you see the actual scene, which took away 400 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: overall of just feeling anything for anybody with all the 401 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: hardship that they end up going through, the overall just 402 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: craziness of being in a motorcycle gang. I didn't really 403 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: feel it. And the thing is they keep telling you 404 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: how crazy this gang is and how much they are feared, 405 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 1: you don't really ever see it a whole lot. There 406 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: are some moments where Austin Butler starts to get into 407 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: some fights, he's running from police, and you think, all right, 408 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: I want to see. 409 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 2: More of this. But overall, when. 410 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: You are telling the story of these people who are 411 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: supposed to be so bad that are feared by other 412 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: motorcycle games. Even Tom Hardy's character, who is the head 413 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: of the gang and if anybody has a problem, they 414 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: have to go to him and challenge him, fight him 415 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: sometimes in order to have any kind of change made 416 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: within the club. 417 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 2: I didn't really feel any qualifiers for his character that. 418 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: He was this ba dude who could take on anybody, 419 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: who could inflict a lot of pain on somebody, but 420 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: also take it. And me, as the viewer, I found 421 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 1: them all to be kind of fragile characters of thinking 422 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: they're probably gonna get their butt kicked because they haven't 423 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: really proven to me that they are that hardcore. So 424 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: I think they missed some moments to show you how real, 425 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: awesome and gritty they were, and instead you get a 426 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: really spacey type of movie where it feels like the 427 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: action was almost an afterthought. As much as Tom Hardy 428 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: tried really hard, I think some of the assets around 429 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: him just weren't really that powerful, one of those being 430 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: that Austin Butler just fell a little bit overly stoic 431 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: in this, and maybe that's just his style of acting, 432 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: being a little bit aloof and mysterious, and his character, 433 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,239 Speaker 1: I just didn't really feel it from him, and I 434 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: feel like he's kind of relying a lot on his 435 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: looks right now, because even at the start of this movie, 436 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: what his love interest was so attracted to with him 437 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: is that he stood out from all the other guys 438 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: and he was so attractive, and that was kind of 439 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: his whole and moment throughout the film of him, like 440 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: adjusting his hair, talking really soft, not really saying a 441 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: whole lot, and then just him just standing there smoking 442 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: cigarettes drinking beer. By the way, this movie did make 443 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: me want to buy a motorcycle, smoke cigarettes, and drink beer. 444 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: That's the only real thing it made me want to do. 445 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: It made me want to be a degenerate. But his 446 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: character was just so aloof he tries to go through 447 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: these developments as a person throughout the film. He's almost 448 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: like a tough nut to crack. The love interest is 449 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: really trying to get through and change him a little bit, 450 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: and you never really see that process happen. But what 451 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: was my biggest struggle with the movie? Like I said, 452 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: it almost felt like they didn't have enough to make 453 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,239 Speaker 1: an entire film out of. 454 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: But I feel like it didn't really. 455 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: Get to the main story until that very third act, 456 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: Almost those last twenty thirty minutes, it felt like, Oh, 457 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: that is the story right there. This is what this 458 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: entire movie should have been about. And it would have 459 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: been way more impactful if it wasn't in this narrative 460 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: format where it's just an oral history. It should have 461 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: been entirely focused on. Forget Austin Butler's character, It should 462 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: have been so much focused on Tom Hardy's character, who 463 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: I found the most interesting, who I felt the most 464 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: for throughout this film. It should have been told entirely 465 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: from his perspective, remove the reporter aspect, and just show 466 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: everything that his character goes through. Less of the love 467 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 1: relationship with Austin Butler and Jody Comer, like, make that 468 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: the b plot, make it all about Tom Hardy and 469 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: not even so much about the formation of the club, 470 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: but what they get into the third act and how 471 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: they deal with the changing of the times, which I 472 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: found to be the most interesting. It reminded me of 473 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: one of my favorite movies of old time, No Country 474 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: for Old Men, of dealing with a new type of 475 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: criminal where you were a little bit more old school, 476 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: where at a time where maybe crime was a little 477 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: bit more wholesome, which is what this movie started dealing with. 478 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: Of in their motorcycle gang, there were certain rules, but 479 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: at the end of it, nobody was really doing anything 480 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: overly violent, aside from fighting with people, maybe slashing a 481 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: couple faces every now and then with a switch blade, 482 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: but overall they were able to get along with other people. 483 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: They weren't doing really any violent crimes. But as you 484 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: move out of the sixties going into the seventies, you 485 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: see more struggle of these new people coming in and 486 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: being just more crazy and reckless and not caring about 487 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: any of these established rules that I think the movie 488 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: should have focused more on the changing of the guard 489 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: between the old school between the new school, and I 490 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: just thought it was kind of funny to look at 491 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: a time where being in a motorcycle gang was kind 492 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: of wholesome and to have that ripped away from you. 493 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: I think to talk about that more and to show 494 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: that more with Tom Hardy's character would have been way 495 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: more interesting. The other really distracting part was all of 496 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: the accents that were going on. I almost feel like 497 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: every actor went into their own process of how they 498 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: were going to tackle the accent, and what you ended 499 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: up getting was just a kind of mess of all 500 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: these people trying all different types of things. Therefore, it 501 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: made a lot of the dialogue feel less authentic and 502 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: a little bit corny. And that is that line you 503 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: walk with a movie like this on motorcycle clubs and 504 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: motorcycle gangs. It made it just feel like biker cosplay. 505 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: Even though the war in this movie who was fantastic. 506 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: I like that they all look super dirty. If anybody 507 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: had a white T shirt, it had all this crap 508 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: all over it. So it did benefit by having a 509 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: great wardrobe department, but the performances and the overall tone 510 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: of the story didn't really match the one performance I 511 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: was surprised by, even though at this point I should 512 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: not question this person whatsoever? Was Michael Shannon. You put 513 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: him in anything and he instantly makes a movie better 514 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: and will start acting circles around everybody else. If he 515 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: would have had more screen time, I feel like he 516 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: would have been ten times better than everybody else in 517 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: this movie. And for somebody like him, who can really 518 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: do any type of thing, well, it just shows you 519 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: how great of a character actor he is, because if 520 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: more of these actors had his approach and just his 521 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: talent to make it feel more authentic. I think overall 522 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: the entire movie would have benefited from it, because at 523 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: the end of it, it almost just felt like a 524 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: Marlborough ad come to life. Although I did like the 525 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: way this movie looked. The color palette was very warm, 526 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: and it had that almost old fifties sixties photograph feel 527 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: to it. It had all the makings to be a 528 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: real cinematic Darling. I think they could have done a 529 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: really good job addressing more the toxic masculinity and the 530 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: inability for men to have healthy relationships with other men, 531 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: especially where you're supposed to be so hardened and so 532 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: in a mindset of nothing bothers you you can't cry. 533 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: I feel like if they really would have brought that 534 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: idea home turned up some of these performances, this could 535 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: have been a film in a discussion for Best Picture 536 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: because all the elements were there. It just fell flat 537 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: in a lot of places. I think with a few changes, 538 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,959 Speaker 1: it could have been a much better movie. I still 539 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: enjoyed it overall, it was a little bit boring at times. 540 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: It did feel a little bit like why exactly was 541 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: this movie made. 542 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: I still feel. 543 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: Like Austin Butler has a lot to do in order 544 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: to grow as an actor. Tom Hardy can really do 545 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: anything he wants right now, put out a movie like 546 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: this and then go be Venom. I'm still all on 547 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: board for Tom Hardy. Just wasn't my favorite performances from 548 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: either of them, but for the bike Riders, I give 549 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: it three out of five Leather Jackets. 550 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: It's time to head down to movie Mike treylar Hard I. 551 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: Am always on the quest for my next favorite horror movie. 552 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: You know, last week I was talking about Smile Too, 553 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: and I just started get itching for something scary to watch, 554 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: even outside of spooky season. I think everything gets crowded 555 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: around October late September. I want a horror movie. Now, 556 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: give them to me all throughout the year. I like 557 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: one in January, I like one in February, March. Whenever 558 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: you can give me a horror movie, I will take it. 559 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 4: And back. 560 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: When I went to go see Immaculate in theaters about 561 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: a month maybe two months ago with Sidney Sweeney, I 562 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: didn't go watch it with her, she's in the movie, 563 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 1: but they showed a trailer for this movie called Long Legs, 564 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: and I remember watching it thinking, Hey, that actually looks 565 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: pretty good, but I kind of forgot about it. I 566 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: see so many trailers, see so many movies, sometimes they 567 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: just kind of slip my mind. But then I was 568 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: on TikTok the other day, and rarely do I stop 569 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 1: and watch an ad, but this ad for this trailer 570 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: came up and it was Long Legs, and I was like, oh, yeah, 571 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: that looks really good. And they are claiming in that 572 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: trailer that they are promoting on TikTok that it's gonna 573 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: be the scariest movie of the year. So that led 574 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: me to believe, Okay, I gotta go dive into this 575 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: trailer again and let you guys know if it really 576 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: looks like it's gonna be that good. It's coming out 577 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: on July twelfth. It stars Michael Monroe, who at a 578 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: time back in the twenty tens, whenever she came out 579 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: in a great horror movie called It Follows, I thought 580 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: she was going to be the next big thing in horror. 581 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: She really got her start there. 582 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: She was being dubbed at that time the scream Queen, 583 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: and this is kind of her returning back to her roots, 584 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: even though that movie only came out ten years ago, 585 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: but we'll talk more about her. She plays a character 586 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: in this movie who was an FBI agent named Lee Harker. 587 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: She is assigned to an unsolved serial killer case that 588 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: takes an unexpected turn revealing evidence of the cult. 589 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: And this trailer is so trippy. 590 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: It has so many cool visual effects that I'll get into. 591 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: It also has just really great sound design. And what 592 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: I really love about this trailer before I play it 593 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: is unlike last week when I was talking about my 594 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: issue with Smile Too showing you all the scary parts, 595 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: this trailer doesn't do that. 596 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: It really just gives you the vibes. 597 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: It's almost like going to a Pinterest board and getting 598 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: ideas and seeing things like that is what I want 599 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: a trailer to do. Just give me the Pinterest board 600 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: version coming out pretty soon on July twelfth. Now here's 601 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: just a little bit of the trailer. Is it scary 602 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: being a lady FBI agent? 603 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? 604 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 2: A little was left with the bodies. 605 00:29:52,680 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 4: Sign of one word. I saw a beast strays up 606 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 4: out of the sea with seven heads and ten horns. 607 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: Now did that sound get you? What a haunting sound? 608 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: So again it's about Lee Harker, who is assigned to 609 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: this unsolved serial killer case. She discovers that there's a 610 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: personal connection to the killer and she must stop them 611 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: before he strikes again. You also have the one and 612 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: only Nick Cage in this movie. But if you go 613 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: watch this trailer, which I highly encourage you. If a 614 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: movie like this is interesting to you and you're thinking 615 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,479 Speaker 1: about going to see it, go watch this actual trailer. 616 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: I will link it in the episode notes because I 617 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: think this is one you need to see and it 618 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: has this almost eighties seventies style horror vibe to it. 619 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: If it had that old school voiceover guy. 620 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: It would definitely feel like that. But like I mentioned, 621 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: Nick Cage is never shown in this trailer, which I 622 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: think speaks vavolumes to have somebody at an a less 623 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: status of Nick Cage. 624 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: Well, it could be one or two things. 625 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,959 Speaker 1: Maybe you don't want to show him in the trailer 626 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: because then people would feel a certain way about it. 627 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: But I feel coming from a studio like Neon, which 628 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: he does have a relationship with, I feel like you 629 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: would show his face in order to tell people, hey, look, 630 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: Nick Cage is in a new horror movie. And I 631 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: think The reason for them not to actually put him 632 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: in the trailer or in any of the promotional materials 633 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: that I've seen is because they believe so much in 634 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: the story, but also it probably creates a lot more 635 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: of a mystery. You do hear his voice there, So 636 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: here's just a little bit of Nick Cage's voice in 637 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: this movie. So that's creepy in itself. He is going 638 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: to be the Long Legs character. I'm not sure that 639 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: we're ever gonna get a full reveal of the monster 640 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: in this movie, but if we do, I'm glad that 641 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: I didn't waste it or even give us a glimpse 642 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: of it in the trailer. The whole idea of long 643 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: Legs kind of reminds me of the slender Man, which 644 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: was a myth on the internet. They also made a 645 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: movie on that, but it has that urban legend vibe 646 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: to it. Again, I just keep going back to some 647 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: of these sounds, all the sound effects using this trailer 648 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: to create this weird, creepy feeling. I just love it, 649 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,719 Speaker 1: Like I don't know what that sound is. Again, I'm 650 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: sorry if I'm freaking you out, but it freaked me out. 651 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how you make this sound, I'll turn 652 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: it down a little bit like that is just creepy 653 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: in itself, and I imagine myself in the theater watching 654 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: it and being able to feel that in my chest. 655 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: That is the feeling that I crave and the feeling 656 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: that I search for when going to watch a horror movie. 657 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: So I am really looking forward to that. 658 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: The only thing I can't get a grasp on with 659 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: these movies that are about one character researching something is 660 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: that sometimes you can cut a trailer to make it 661 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: look like it's gonna have a lot of action, make 662 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: it look like there's gonna be a lot of scary elements. 663 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: But then once you go watch a movie like this, 664 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: sometimes it's so spacey and drawn out. So I think 665 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: the key to this movie being good or not is 666 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: going to be the pacing, because I have no doubt 667 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: that we're gonna get a great performance from Michael Monroe, who, 668 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: like I was mentioning earlier, is in a fantastic horror movie. 669 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: That was her breakthrough role. It follows if you haven't 670 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: seen It follows. For a while in the twenty tens, 671 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: it was my go to horror recommendation. It was between 672 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: It follows Your Next and The Conjuring, which is probably 673 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: my favorite of the twenty tens, but it follows, is 674 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: such a good movie. She plays a character who is 675 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: a teenager. She hooks up for the first time, and 676 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: then she finds out this evil demonic entity latched onto 677 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: herself and that is the way that this d goes 678 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: from one person to the other. So a great horror movie. 679 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: Go check it out on Netflix. But she is so 680 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: good in that movie, and now is her return to horror, 681 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: going back to her roots from only ten years ago. 682 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see how she takes on this role. 683 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: I also just watched her in a movie called The Stranger, 684 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: which was originally a mini series. They came out in 685 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, so even though it came out a while ago, 686 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: what they did was re edit the TV show into 687 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: a movie and it just was added recently on Hulu. 688 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: I watched it and it's a pretty good watch. I 689 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: thought she did pretty good in it. I can kind 690 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: of tell that it felt a little bit like a 691 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: TV movie because that is initially how it was put 692 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: out into the world. But I think it's interesting that 693 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: people kind of recognize that essentially mini series that come 694 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: out now are really just long movies. So I think 695 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: that is an interesting way to approach media and take 696 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: something that is already out and existed in the world 697 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: and turn it into something new, which I think that 698 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: could lead to something down the road of doing it 699 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: the opposite way. 700 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: I love long movies, but by. 701 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: Doing this podcast, I hear that a lot of people 702 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: hate long movies. Some don't want to go to the 703 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: theater and watch a two and a half three hour 704 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: movie because they think that is too long. I think 705 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: you can get to a point where you put out 706 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,959 Speaker 1: a movie in theaters it's two and a half three 707 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: hours long, and then later you get a director's cut, 708 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: and usually the director's cut is much longer. I think 709 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: instead you get a director's cut where it's sliced into 710 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: smaller digestible pieces and put on the internet like a 711 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: mini series. You could do that for people who want 712 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: to consume it that way, and then you could do 713 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: the opposite. If a movie does really well as a 714 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: mini series, take out the filler episodes and then put 715 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: the best of into one movie. Because I will continue 716 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: to defend long movies, but what I don't get is 717 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: when people defend TV shows that start out slow or 718 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: have boring episodes and say, oh, it's a building episode, 719 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: take that out, cut it up, put it into a movie, 720 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: and then I'll watch it. So that was the only 721 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: recent example I saw of someone doing that, and I 722 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: hope that other people get an idea to take some 723 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: existing content and package it in a different way and 724 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: see if it's more successful with streaming, there are no rules. 725 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: But back to long Legs, I think this movie is 726 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: crushing it with all of the promotion they are doing. 727 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: They did a really interesting thing rolling out the full 728 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: trailer back a couple few months ago, where they would 729 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: just poset random videos on Neon's YouTube channel with no 730 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: attachment to the movie. They just had really simple titles 731 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: and were very ominous, like this one that just had 732 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: some old photos from a family and a nine to 733 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: one one call over it time on. 734 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 4: What's your reversion? 735 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: Pate, that's my daughter? 736 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,439 Speaker 2: I kind of be quiet. 737 00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 4: Sea daughter. 738 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 2: How creepy is that? 739 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: I just love the idea that they are doing and 740 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: making this movie feel like it actually exists in our world. 741 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: I think they are playing off the fact that a 742 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: lot of people are obsessed with true crime. I myself 743 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: have a little bit of a problem getting into it, 744 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: just because it's weird to get so involved in real 745 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: people's lives who lost people tragically, and for us to 746 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: take that and turn that into content. Some movies are 747 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: even hard for me to watch that are based on 748 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: true events where those people are still living. Mainly you 749 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: get TV shows and podcasts that do that. I try 750 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: not to dabbling it anymore because it just feels weird 751 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: and eerie to me and a little bit disrespectful to 752 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: some of those people's families who are still dealing with that, 753 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: and suddenly their actual lives are turned into content that 754 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: other people are just digging up and not thinking about 755 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: those people. 756 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 2: But here I feel better about it because. 757 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: Because none of this stuff really happened, but they are 758 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 1: creating that same kind of world. Here's some evidence, here's 759 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: some nine to win one calls. We'll post this like 760 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: it's actual fact on our YouTube channel and not even say, hey, 761 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: here's some promotional material for long legs. Just put it 762 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: out there into the world and let people dive in, 763 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: eat it up as they will, and they get like 764 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: half a million views on every video like that. That's 765 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 1: twenty second song. Great marketing. I hope that the movie 766 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: delivers definitely when I'm going to check out in theaters, 767 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: because I want that feeling, I want to feel that sound. 768 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: I want to see all these images on the big screen. 769 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: Because as I was watching the trailer on my laptop, 770 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: I noticed it was like dark, and not just the. 771 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 2: Imagery was haunting. 772 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: It was actually so dark that I had to turn 773 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: up the brightness on my laptop to be able to 774 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: see it. It kind of reminded me of watching certain seasons 775 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: a Game of Thrones where it was so dark that 776 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: we all had to adjust our TVs so we could 777 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 1: just see what was going on. It was just people 778 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: fighting in darkness. And as I did that, I noticed 779 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: that there were some hidden things in there. There's one 780 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: point where you see a character just draped in this 781 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: black sheet, almost looks like a nun, but without the 782 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: face hole exposed. If you have your screen all the 783 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 1: way up, you see this white figure face almost like 784 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,919 Speaker 1: the Nun from the actual horror movie The Nun. It's 785 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: just this white, pale face, this demon hiding in there, 786 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: but you couldn't see it unless your screen brightness was 787 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: all the way turned up. So I love those Easter 788 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: eggs as well. Again, I'm gonna link this trailer in 789 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: the episode notes so you can catch those things for yourself. 790 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: But again, the movie is coming out on July twelfth. 791 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry you had to get that in there again 792 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: and that is gonna do it for another episode here 793 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: of the podcast. But before I go, I gotta give 794 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: my listeners shout out of the week this week. I'm 795 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: going over to my email where you can send me notes, 796 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: you can send me ideas for podcasts, just react to 797 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: the episodes. 798 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 2: Whatever you want to let me know it. 799 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: So for all my people who maybe aren't on social media, 800 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: hit me up move d at gmail dot com. This 801 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,959 Speaker 1: week's listener shout out of the week is Noeh, who 802 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: wrote me this comment and said, Hey, Mike, love the podcast, 803 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: look forward to it every Monday. I know you read 804 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 1: comic books. I was wondering if you have a po 805 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: box where I could send you a couple comics I 806 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: think you would enjoy. They are similar to the movies 807 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: that you like. Thanks Noeh, so I appreciate that. Noeh, 808 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 1: thank you for being a part of the Monday Morning 809 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: Movie crew and also being a fellow comic book reader. 810 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: I've gotten so deep into comic books. I've gotten a 811 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 1: little bit out of collecting the old school comics. I've 812 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: found pretty much all my major key issues that I 813 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: was looking for, and all the ones that I would 814 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: want to have are way too expensive. I'm talking hundreds 815 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: and thousands of dollars. So unless I find a really 816 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: good deal on some of the old school Marvel comics 817 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: that I don't have yet, i think I'm a little 818 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: bit out of that game. But I'll always keep my 819 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 1: eyes open. But right now, I'm just deep into current 820 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: runs of Deadpool. 821 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 2: Deadpool and Wolverine. Also currently loving Venom, Separation Anxiety are 822 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 2: my three favorites to read right now. So thank you. 823 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: No, I always appreciate that I always feel weird about 824 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: getting things just because I feel like I'm just the dude. 825 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: I don't deserve you guys to send me anything, but 826 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: since they are comics, I don't mind checking it out. 827 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 2: So appreciate that in a way. 828 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: Thank you right now for listening, whether you're in your car, 829 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: at the gym, listening on your headphones, or hopefully not 830 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: creeping outside my window. And until next time, go out 831 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: and watch good movies, and I will talk to you later.