1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news, single best Idea. 2 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: What an eclectic day of conversations. Thank you so much 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: for the feedback as well, particularly thank you for the 4 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: feedback that I wasn't wearing a bow tie today. I 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: wasn't because a dog pit me and I had my 6 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: thumb and I literally couldn't tie the bow tie with 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: a band aid on the thumb. But you know, we'll 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: do that tomorrow. We'll get better here in the next 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: couple of days. What a difficult choice to give you 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: two featured comments Mike Mayo with us on Banks on fire, 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: about city group turning to a positive any number of 12 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: other guesse Gina Martin Adams I thought was really quite strong. 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: Robert Schiffman suddenly we literally on a moment's notice, got 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 2: him brilliant. On Apple's cash and then you supprect their 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: debt and that's net cash. It was really interesting to 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: see that, given the continued free cash flow that Apple 17 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: has on all that's going on in Europe, there's no 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: one better than Stephanie Baker punishing Putin as her book. 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: It's a huge response, particularly in her London, in her Europe. 20 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: Here is Stephanie Baker on the moment at hand. 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: It's a real worry. You know. The Biden administration's policy 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: towards Russia, isolating Russia, imposing harsh sanctions on Russia, had 23 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: its flaws. But at this point, you know, right before 24 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 3: Trump came into office, the sanctions were finally beginning to bite. 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: And it appears that Trump is about to give Putin 26 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: sanctions relief and get him out of a bind, because 27 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: I think Putin really would like some sanctions relief to 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: regroup and rearm to take another bite at Ukraine a 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 3: few years down the line. 30 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: Stephanie Baker, I can't say enough about the book Punishing Putin. 31 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: We had Angela Stenhon, I believe a week ago, two 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: weeks ago, were there wonderful book, My book of the 33 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: year a few years ago Putin's World in Stephanie Baker 34 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: follows on with the book, particularly about economic sanctions, which 35 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: brings you to oil is a weapon. What an honor 36 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: today to have an extended conversation with Edward Morse, of 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: course forever the consul and foreign relations is public service 38 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: in both the Reagan and Carter administrations. Ed Morse Iconic 39 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: City Group and now at Hartree Partners, Edward Morse on oil. 40 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: Is it a weapon for America? 41 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: It cannot be weaponized other than the degree to which 42 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 4: you can put sanctions on a country. I don't know 43 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 4: what weaponizing it means. I don't know what we're going 44 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: to pursue. Energy dominance means. I know what it means 45 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 4: as a soft, powerful instrument of policy. And let me 46 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 4: give you an example. We have become the largest exporter 47 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 4: of energy in the world, the largest exporter of LNG. 48 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 4: That LNG export growth enabled the United States to replace 49 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 4: every drop of Russian energy, but particularly natural gas going 50 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 4: into Europe, and it did so at a time when 51 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 4: it was able to globalize a gas market that had 52 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: not been globalized. We have made oil because we don't 53 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 4: allow destination restrictions. We've enabled natural gas to be global 54 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 4: and the price of it is based at Henry Hubb 55 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 4: in the United States. That's kind of soft diplomacy. We 56 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 4: have an ability to expand LNG globally, but it's a 57 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: soft ability. We have an ability to say multilateral lending 58 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: institutions ought to be pushing natural gas, they ought to 59 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 4: be backstopping Regasification is cleaner than coal is helpful to 60 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 4: the global economy. But that's soft diplomacy. It's not using 61 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 4: it as a weapon. 62 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: Ed Morris, Hertery partners and your community across the nation, 63 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: thank you so much for listening on Applecarplay, Android Auto. 64 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: Good morning ninety nine to one FM in a really 65 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: fractious Washington, the new slow just extortay. 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