1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell that for me, I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: I want to be happy. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: You want to be happy? 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: For Dake Edith state is that whoo whoom? And Dan 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: and Tie Daniel Week seven, officially in the books, gather 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: around the campfire, one and all. 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: It's crackling, Tie, it's crackling. 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: Get those emotions out. Perhaps the next hour or so 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: can serve as a Catharsis for you, wherever you may be. 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to the solid verbal. I'm Tie, 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: He's Dan. We have a full campfire theme this evening. 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: We will dive in not to the fire, but to 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: the content, I promise you. Momentarily, Dan Rubinstein joined me 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: from the West Coast, sort of where it all started, 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: right here on the solid verbal recording. This a lot 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: earlier in your time Zoneia. 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: It's the best. It's the best time. I think I 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: have more energy. I'm at a buddy's place right now 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: in the West Coast in LA and quite excited. Even 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: though I'm gonna probably have to go through some emotions 22 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: to get to the finish line of this show. I 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: argue that might even make for a better show, hopefully. 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, that's the point, right If we're 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: sitting around the campfire. That's what you do with a campfire. 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: You sit around, you get your emotions out, you play, 27 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: you play some guitar poorly in most cases. You tell stories. 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: That's what this is. It's an hour of storytelling. It 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: just so happens. We've got a lot of college football 30 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: to talk about. Let's get rolling with our fire starters. 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 32 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: Well, castaway to get things started. Dan Rubinstein Washington thirty six, 33 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: Oregon thirty three. The Oregon Ducks. Oregon Ducks had him, Dan, 34 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: They had him. It felt like they had him. It 35 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: felt like Dan Lanning was a little bit like the 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: guy at the blackjack table who just decides, you know what, 37 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna split the sixes. I'm enjoying myself. I just 38 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: want to press my luck and then it all sort 39 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: of goes wrong and you bust on both hands. He 40 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: decides to go for it and fourth down doesn't work out, 41 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: gives a ball back to Michael Pennix. Michael Pennix does 42 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: what Michael Pennix does, made him pay, and that's how 43 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: Washington ended up winning. I know there was a lot 44 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: more that went into it, but that's certainly how it ended. 45 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: I know you posted a video out and YouTube channel. 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: People can go and watch that. But before I waxed 47 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: poetic about my thoughts on this game and bo Nix 48 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: and Penix and whatever else, Dan Lanning, we had people 49 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: calling in about Dan Lanning? What were your thoughts? 50 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: How much time do you have? 51 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: Ty? 52 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: Okay, So big picture of the game rhythmically sort of 53 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 2: went how we thought it would go, right that Michael 54 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: Pennix really threw some incredible balls, and Washington actually ran 55 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: better than I thought they would be able to do, 56 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: although Oregon hasn't been strong against the run this season. 57 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 2: But look, everybody's going to talk about a singular thing 58 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: in this game. For as great as Michael Pennix appeared 59 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: to be at times, especially he was beat up in 60 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: that second half, he was taking some shots, he was 61 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 2: hurt in that second half, and he was and was 62 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: an absolute warrior staying in there, hanging in there, especially 63 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: when they got the ball back at midfield driving down 64 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: to take the eventual commanding and winning touchdown. It's a 65 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 2: decision thing, and it's an execution thing for Oregon. Because 66 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: Oregon was able to climb back into this game because 67 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: of their defense, because of their pass rush, because of 68 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: their ability to get off the field against an excellent 69 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: offense in Washington. It was not converting fourth downs, it 70 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: was not taking the points after that interception free points. 71 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: I would remind you, and I'm very much a proponent 72 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: of being aggressive, that this was a touchdown party. And 73 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: it's hard to win games that are touchdown parties with 74 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: field goals. But in the case where you're able to 75 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: flip the field and give yourself an extra possession right 76 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: before half and you're getting the ball back to start 77 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: and you have that opportunity, that middle eight opportunity, it's 78 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: always easy in retrospect to say take the points. You 79 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: gotta take the points. Absolutely, take the points. I like aggression, 80 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: but what was clear was Oregon was not prepared to 81 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: execute in those high leverage moments. They did not have 82 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 2: the plays. They did not have winning plays on fourth 83 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: and short, on third and short all that often, and 84 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: so that was the difference. I think it's important to 85 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 2: separate decisions from results, but also if you're making decisions 86 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: and the plays you're running seem uninspired and don't give 87 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: you a like an incredible chance, Like they weren't running 88 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 2: Bonnicks right there, weren't. It wasn't a zone read situation 89 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 2: where he was a running threat. They could collapse on 90 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: the run without worry for that. Like I think Joe 91 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: moorehead calling this offense this is an Oregon win. Now, 92 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 2: we don't exist in that reality, but I thought this 93 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: was a pretty telling situation for the status of Oregon's offense, 94 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: which I think is the best, pretty good offense in 95 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: America right now, because even though the numbers suggest that 96 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: they're an elite offense, in a game like this where 97 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: there's very little in the way of forget a vertical 98 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: passing threat, but an intermediate passing threat, it was a 99 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: lot of short stuff with a couple of shots in there, 100 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: not a ton of variety. So I thought Washington's defense 101 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: performed super well against Oregon at times, but Oregan was 102 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: still running the ball relatively well, and so this was 103 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: a game that Oregon, unfortunately, it was not able to 104 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: be good enough to win. I've said this earlier on 105 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: in the season. I think winning is a skill, and 106 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: I think Washington was a more pronounced winner on the 107 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: field so that's my takeaway that Oregon is not a 108 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: full winning operation right now. And again, I have no 109 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: problem with going forward on fourth down, but when that's 110 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 2: what the execution looks like, it's back to the drawing board. 111 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: What did I say about Penn State Excelsior? What's your 112 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: go to package? What is your unbeatle Like you have 113 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 2: this playing NCAA football, right, Ty? You have three plays 114 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: where you're like, it's third and four. This is a 115 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: no brainer. This is automatic and ninety four percent of 116 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: the time for an advanced you know, controllsman like yourself. 117 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: That's right, thank you, it is. And so that to 118 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: me was the issue. This is an Oregon team that 119 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: was not ready for primetime. And I've said this a 120 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: bajillion times. Good teams take advantage of opportunities. And I 121 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: don't have a problem with not punting because Washington was 122 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 2: going to drive those twenty thirty net yards in a minute, 123 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: thirty seconds whatever, But you have to you have to 124 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: have a better idea of what will and should work 125 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: when you have that kind of experience and talent. And 126 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 2: the Oregon offense was a mess, and the Washington offense 127 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: was even though they were slowed down considerably. They were 128 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: the best thing on the field because they rose to 129 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: the occasion more often. Even with those goal line stops, 130 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: that crucial goal line stop near the end of the game. 131 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: It was a Washington team prepared to take advantage of 132 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 2: opportunities in a way that Oregon wasn't, And that, to me, 133 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: it was the story of the game. 134 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: Man. What is it about these fourth and short scenarios? 135 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: Even third and short in some cases? I feel like 136 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: we had this exact same conversation a couple weeks ago 137 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: when it was Notre Dame against Ohio, and that was 138 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: my gripe about the play calling. Actually, I went nuts 139 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: about that play calling on our preview episode before week 140 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: seven and how I thought it might get in It 141 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: didn't get in the way this evening for Notre Dame 142 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: usc But Alas, we have certainly seen our moments where 143 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: it seems these high leverage situations pop up and for 144 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: whatever reason, it's almost like they overthink it, right usc 145 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: For whatever you want to say about usc Us, he 146 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: gives the ball to Caleb Williams and says, fake the 147 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: handoff and run around the end on fourth down. In 148 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: a lot of cases, the Philadelphia Eagles just push jail, 149 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: it hurts over the line, and it works like ninety 150 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: percent of the time. Not everybody has that quote unquote excelsior, 151 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: but certainly to your point, Oregon, Yeah, made some questionable 152 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: decisions there when. 153 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: The decisions are okay, decisions were okay, but. 154 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: The results were less than optimal. 155 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Well, I just think the decisions are defensible 156 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: if it's clear that there's a plan, and it's clear 157 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: like getting to two yards with an offensive line that's 158 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: been this good, with a running attack that's been this good, 159 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,559 Speaker 2: with the receivers and tight end that have been this good. 160 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: Like more than anything, I think this is on the 161 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: combination of Dan Lanning and Will Stein. 162 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: Well, that was gonna be my question. My question was 163 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: whose fault is it. 164 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: They've got a good punter, but I don't think that 165 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: makes a difference in this game. I don't think you 166 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: punt and win this game. Like I think there's just 167 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: this there's too many good receivers on Washington. You're dealing 168 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: with a backup corner in there because Jalil Florence, one 169 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: of the starting corners, goes down. Triquez bridges in there. 170 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: You saw Washington picking on him in those big moments, 171 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 2: and so I think the results are similar if you punt. 172 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: But I think Oregon wins this game if they're if 173 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: they get one fourth down conversed like that's that to 174 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: me is the game when you when you're in that 175 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: kind of driver's seat in that moment, with that kind 176 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: of experience and talent. I'm not gonna say Oregon lost 177 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: this game more than Washington won this game, because again, 178 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: I think winning as a skill and Washington was better 179 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: prepared to take advantage. But I'm wearing an Oregon shirt 180 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: right now. My vantage point. 181 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: Is get it out, man. 182 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: What ails Oregon comes down from the top and what 183 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: propels Washington is everybody being on the same page in 184 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: a better way. 185 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: Well, look, Washington stepped up, and I want to give 186 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: a shout out to Michael Pennix. Michael Pennix not really 187 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: a stranger to people who followed college football at this point, 188 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: probably your leading Heisman candidate through about halfway into the 189 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: season here, Michael Penix faced more pressure in this game 190 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: than I think we've seen him face to date. Michael 191 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: Pennix at moments seemed to struggle with that, but then 192 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: in the highest leverage moments throughout the course of the game, 193 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: delivered just some incredible, incredible strikes. I mean, the degree 194 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: of difficulty on some of those balls that he threw 195 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: hitting guys in stride as they're running step by step, 196 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: step step by step with some guys who are in 197 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: man coverage on the Oregon side, was damage impressive. And 198 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if NFL scouts are watching, I'd love 199 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: to read the readout after it, because this was a 200 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: hell of a performance by him, and no throw bigger 201 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: than that one that eventually won the game for him. Again, 202 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: your final score here thirty six to thirty three. Washington 203 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: has the entire season in front of it. Believe you me, 204 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: when I made the prediction, maybe it was the only 205 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 1: prediction I'll get right all season long, that Washington was 206 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: going to win the Pac twelve. I had no idea 207 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: that they would look this good. I had no idea 208 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: that they would look this good. They're performing admirably, and look, 209 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: there are other games that they need to get past. 210 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: This is just one of many, but this is a 211 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: hell of a start. Way, you know, to go seven 212 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: weeks into the season and be as formidable as they've looked. 213 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and to be clear, and I'm going to hurt 214 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: myself by hurt my back by patting it so hard. 215 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: Before the season said, I have Oregon winning the PAC twelve, 216 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: losing in Seattle, and winning in Vegas. I hope as 217 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: an Oregon person that happened. But I hope even more 218 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: as a college football human that happens because this was 219 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: a really fun game. Not for me, but it was 220 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: clear that a lot of people had a lot of 221 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: fun watching this game. So these appear to be the 222 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: two most complete teams. Because I assume we're going to 223 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: talk about USC here soon in the conference, and so 224 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: if we can get this in Vegas Conference championship week, 225 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 2: that seems like a win for the spotlight, the dwindling, 226 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: fading spotlight on the PAC twelve. 227 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: Why don't we stay in the PAC twelve and shift 228 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: over to the Notre Dame USC game. Let's forty eight 229 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: twenty was your final score? My prediction was thirty eight 230 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: to twenty USC. 231 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: And mine? 232 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: What was your prediction? You didn't pick USC? 233 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: No? 234 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: I picked Notre Dame to win outright, I just I don't. 235 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: I had them covering like twenty four to seventeen lower 236 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: scoring and could not anticipate the absolute collapse of the 237 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: USC offense and the defense. We know about the offensive 238 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: first half collapse of USC. 239 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: Whoop God. I am just relieved sitting here in this 240 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:06,119 Speaker 1: safe space among Oliver Baller hood, that my reverse jinks 241 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: still oh s got it, baby, sure still got it 242 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: locked up. USC plus the two and a half in 243 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: reality needed about thirty two and a half. Dan, You're right. 244 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: The USC offense imploded. Five turnovers, three picks from Cable Williams. 245 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: They weren't all pretty picks either. They were under duress 246 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: and Cable Williams trying to make a play and not good. 247 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: Good game for Xavier Watts on the Notre Dame side, 248 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: who had two of those picks forced a fumble, also 249 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: recovered to fumble and ran it in for six late 250 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: in the game. But no. Caleb Williams was far short 251 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: of expectations in this one. He faced more pressure than 252 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: he has I think through you know, to any point 253 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: to date here in this season. He was not able 254 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: to use his legs to extend plays in the same 255 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: manner that I think he is accustomed to doing. Notre 256 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: Dame is a real defense I was going to say, 257 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: I attribute that to the fact that Notre Dame is 258 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: just better defensively, and we saw the results of that 259 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: just one hundred and ninety nine yards passing for Caleb Williams. 260 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: Of course, he made plays, It's what Caleb Williams does. 261 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: But for an offense that, as you mentioned, I think 262 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: rightfully a couple of days ago, that is built entirely 263 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: around him. When he is not able to go out 264 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: there and eat in the same manner, that is obviously 265 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: going to pose some problems. So the combination of turning 266 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: the ball over, the combination of not having Caleb Williams 267 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: as his optimal self obviously created a bit of an 268 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: opening for Notre Dame. If you did not watch this game, 269 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: if you just simply were to look at the box scorer, 270 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: you'd look at the at the numbers and say, what, 271 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: Notre Dame didn't do anything spectacular. Notre Dame won this 272 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: game essentially using its defense as the springboard to create 273 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: short fields, to put its offense in a city situation 274 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: where they're not backed up at their own goal line 275 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: having to win games heroically like they did a couple 276 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: weeks ago. This was very much laid out for them 277 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: on a silver platter, and to their credit, to Marcus 278 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: Freeman's credit, to Jared Parker's credit, they did what they 279 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: needed to do to win. This was not rocket science. 280 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: They were able to run the ball, they were able 281 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: to make some throws. Sam Hartman did not need to 282 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: go out there and win the game with his arm, 283 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: but he made some throws when he had to. The 284 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: defense stepped up and put the offense in a really 285 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: good situation. And if you're a Notre Dame fan, this 286 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: was a breath of fresh air. Perhaps a week too late, Dan, 287 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: but sure, that being said, you'll take the win over 288 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: the biggest rival anyway you can get it. I don't 289 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: know from afar, speaking as a Notre Dame fan, whether 290 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: the talking point will be that Notre Dame got its 291 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: act together went out there and drilled USC by twenty 292 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: eight points, or if the talking point is going to 293 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: be a USC collapsed and the number ten team in 294 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: the country against one of its biggest rivals on the road. Look, pedestrian, 295 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: my hunch is my hunch is the latter is what 296 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: people will be talking about more so than a two 297 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: loss team knocking off the USC Trojans, But at least 298 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: from my vantage point as a Notre Dame fan, this 299 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: was a welcome breath of fresh air after three weeks 300 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: of being on pins and needles at night. 301 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: Yes, and look, this goes back to like you're never 302 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: as bad as your worst day, You're never as good 303 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: as your best day. And so that's I guess why 304 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: I felt pretty good about Notre Dame, that they're still 305 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: built to beat a team like USC, especially at home. 306 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: And I think the story, actually, you ask what the 307 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: story is, right, Notre Dame righting the ship and looking 308 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: much more competent on both sides of the ball than 309 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: they have been, or USC collapsing. I think it's USC. 310 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: USC was undefeated, even though people knew that this was 311 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: a flawed USC team coming in the heights of Caleb 312 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: Williams and the nature of USC's recent games going to 313 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: what triple overtime again, Arizona, you know, playing closer than 314 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: they should have against ASU and Colorado letting Colorado back 315 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: into that game. I think this was like anticipated from 316 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: us C, like this isn't a USC that could keep 317 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: up what it was doing on the field these past 318 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: few weeks, and Notre Dame was right place, right time, 319 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: right kind of team, and you should have gone with 320 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: your gut early on the season. Your your messages to 321 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: me were like Notre Dame could just bully USC, and 322 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be close. 323 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: That was like two weeks ago. 324 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't that long ago. And you just you're 325 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: you run hot at this campfire, Tie, I. 326 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: Am starting to think that my picks. I'm starting to 327 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: think that there is a real reverse Jink situation going 328 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: on this year. 329 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: I try, though, Tye, I like I actively on the preview, 330 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: I think I'm having a pretty decent year. I haven't 331 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: run the numbers, but like I actively say, like ty 332 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: I don't do this as a reverse Jinx. Do you 333 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: actually think USC is going to on the road the 334 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: way that they've been playing beat Notre Dame? And you said, 335 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: absolutely no question in my mind. 336 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: Double digits comment to you and others has been I 337 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: have tried the logic method when it comes to making 338 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: my picks, and that doesn't work. So let's just pick 339 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: with raw emotion and see what happens. And I still 340 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: got it wrong, but at least I at least I 341 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: got the witness a win. 342 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 2: And so okay, can I can I ask you a 343 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: question about Notre Dame moving forward? Obviously, this is not 344 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: a team that's going to go to a four team 345 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 2: playoff having lost twice the teams that they lose to 346 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: and the teams ahead of them, but Notre Dame wise, 347 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: this is a team that they didn't kick USC's ass 348 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: in that Sam Hartman through for four hundred yards. He 349 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: essentially had two big plays, one of which was a 350 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: beautiful It was like a deep post to Chris Tyree 351 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: for a touchdown. Adric estimate. It was workman like, but 352 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 2: he wasn't busting seventy yard runs. Does this give you 353 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 2: hope that Notre Dame can be more complete than they've 354 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 2: shown this month or this past you know, three or 355 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: four weeks moving forward? 356 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: Does it give me hope? Yeah? 357 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 2: Against the better teams left on their schedule, I don't 358 00:17:58,680 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: have it in front of me. Who do they have? 359 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: I know they have Clemson left. 360 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Clemson's the game that I think is 361 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: obviously one that's going to pose an issue. Clemson's front 362 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: is not going to be USC's front, So that one, 363 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: to me, I think will ultimately be the Bell Weather 364 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: for whether or not this project is back on the 365 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: tracks or not. But Notre Dame also has a game 366 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: against Pitt which Pitt won this evening over Louisville in 367 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: a rather easy fashion. The rest of the way, it's 368 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: not exactly a murderers row, Wake Forest and Stanford to 369 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: close out the season. 370 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: Right, Wake Forests not looking amazing? 371 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: No, wake Forest lost to Virginia Tech this week. Yes, 372 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: so I mean the yes. Does it give me hope? 373 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: Of course, it gives me hope. This was a big win. 374 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: It's also not lost to me. This was USC's defense, 375 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: and USC's defense is nothing special. 376 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: I mean, was it three first half picks as well? 377 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: It wasn't just the defense, No, I mean it was 378 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: a complete effort for Dotordey, and I think that is 379 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: what especially as a good team, that is what fans 380 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: have been waiting for and been hoping for, you know, 381 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: long way to go. But I do feel very, very 382 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: much comforted by the fact that the defense, at least 383 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: the defensive front, was able to contain Caleb Williams in 384 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: the manner that they did. That was one thing I 385 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: did not expect. I thought he would do a lot better. 386 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: Back half of USC's schedule in the back half of 387 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 2: their season. Dude, they're a mess. It's to USC's kind 388 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: of like you pay Lincoln Riley nine or ten million dollars. 389 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: You're not able to build a defense. You're not really 390 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: able to build an offense week to week that has 391 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 2: an identity beyond Caleb Williams, just like buying time making 392 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: a plus plays. Can I read the schedule off it's 393 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 2: a low key mess. Continue, it's not a low key mess. 394 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 2: It's now, it's it's out in the open. Yeah, Utah at. 395 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: Home next week than at Cow, which is a crazy 396 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: sandwich spot before Washington at home. Then they go on 397 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: the road to Oregon, and then they come back home 398 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: against UCLA. All of those games are losable. 399 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: I don't think Col's losible. I on the road, I 400 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: don't think Ucla. No, Cal's not that good. Cal got 401 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 2: run over by a safety today. 402 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: All right, all right, fair, okay. 403 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 2: Other headliners that we need to warm our hands with 404 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 2: around this campfire, this crackling, crackling college football information campfire. 405 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: Tennessee twenty Texas A and M thirteen A decidedly Iowa 406 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: wisconsiny score in this football game which was decided a 407 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: lot by defense a special teams Dan sort of a 408 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: comedy of airs for a good chunk of it. And 409 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: what I think you took away from watching this game 410 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: is that both offensive lines had some trouble. Now, yeah, 411 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: very much so. The case on the A and M side, 412 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: that is nothing new, and it was much more of 413 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: a pass protection an issue on the Tennessee side, Guys 414 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: getting in Joe Milton's face. Joe Milton did not have 415 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: a good game for Tennessee by any stretch. As a passer, 416 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: Tennessee much more efficient on the ground. We knew that 417 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: going in. They were a much better ground team than 418 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: they were passing team coming into this week. But this 419 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: was one of those games that was interesting, if only 420 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: because it felt like something weird was going to happen 421 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: the full way through, like both offenses totally struggled. Max 422 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: Johnson a backup, a very clear backup, watching him in 423 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: this spot very timing oriented. I jotted down on my 424 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: notes that it was like watching Max Johnson was like 425 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: watching old footage of me trying to hit a ninety 426 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: five mile an hour fastball in the cage. It's clear 427 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: I don't have that bat speed for it. I just 428 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: have to time it right, and Max Johnson everything is 429 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: timing base. He does not have the arm. It just 430 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: has to be on time, and if it's not on time, 431 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: it's a problem. So that was a little bit difficult 432 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: to watch. On the flip side of things, Joe Milton 433 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: just it was clear down the stretch the coaching staff 434 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: did not have faith in him to throw. Even in 435 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: a high leverage spots where they could have used a 436 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: three yard pass, they were just handing it off like 437 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: they did not trust. Neither team really trusted its offense 438 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: in a key spot, and that's how you get a 439 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: thin win here. For for Tennessee and the man that 440 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: they did, I give them credit. 441 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: Did they just did they win with one offensive touchdown? 442 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: I believe so? Yeah, I believe so. Yeah. 443 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: It was a punt return touchdown. I believe yeah. 444 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: The other was a punt return. The other was a 445 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: punt return touchdown. Which is hence the special teams that 446 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: I mentioned a little bit ago, But this was this 447 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: was not the kind of game that you're going to 448 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: put in the Hall of Fame for offense. This was 449 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: defense and special teams and trying not to get in 450 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: your own. 451 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: Way winning as a clunk winning as a skill, win 452 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: your clunkers, et cetera, et cetera. Tennessee is a team. 453 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: If if Tennessee is winning without quarterback play, that's good. Okay, 454 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 2: I'm gonna look at the glass half full here because 455 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 2: I was impressed enough with Tennessee's front on defense with 456 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: Jalen Wright, and it was that Dylan Sampson was making 457 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 2: plays on the ground for Tennessee. I pointed out last week, 458 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: and I got some pushback like, oh, you're pointing out 459 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 2: one play on the Texas A and M offensive line. 460 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: It was a YouTube comment or an email or something. 461 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Max Johnson took a snap when his 462 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: own offensive lineman was pushed into him. I'm pretty sure 463 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: on was it a fourth and one, a third and 464 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: one where he just full on tripped over an offensive 465 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: lineman's on the snap Like Texas A and M forget 466 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: about executing plays. They're not even starting big plays, let 467 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: alone you know, throwing the back breaking interception in the 468 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: end zone. And Tennessee made fewer mistakes and won, And 469 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: that's a big deal for Tennessee. I don't think Tennessee's great. 470 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: I don't think they have a highest ceiling with what 471 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: their passing attack is probably going to look like for 472 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: the duration of the year. And look, if they're every 473 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: offen or excuse me, every defensive front that they're going 474 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: to face is not Texas A and M's. But win 475 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: this game at home, run the ball, play defense, and 476 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 2: if it's a pseudo down year relative to Tennessee fan expectations, 477 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: it's still gonna win a bunch of games. It's pretty good. 478 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: On the road at BAMMA next week. We'll talk about 479 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: that one when we do the week eight preview. I 480 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: think some nuance that we need to get into with 481 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: that game. One other point of note here, I saw 482 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: Walter Nolan went down. I did not have a chance 483 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: to see. I don't know if it's been announced exactly 484 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: what is wrong with his lower leg injury, but about 485 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: six minutes left in the fourth needed the cart looked 486 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: like he was in a lot of pain. Tough to 487 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: see that from somebody who's a talented Is Walter Nolan 488 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: obviously a high recruit for Texas A and M. So 489 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: we'll wait for the readout on him. I guess the 490 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: broader question is about Jimbo Fisher, and perhaps we can 491 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: get into that a little bit later when we do 492 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: our roasts. But Jimbo Fisher has not won a true 493 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: road contest against a ranked opponent since twenty sixteen. 494 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's a different time. Yeah, And these 495 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: are winnable games. This is a Tennessee offense that certainly 496 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: didn't do enough to win this game, and not that 497 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 2: Texas A and M's did, but this is a winnable 498 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 2: moment for Texas A and M. I know they were 499 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 2: up a chunk into this game and had opportunities to 500 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: capitalize deep in Tennessee territory. It's not a team that 501 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 2: has honed their winning skill. It just isn't. And so 502 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 2: I don't see how this changes. And we can point 503 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: to Max Johnson being a backup quarterback and Connor Wegman 504 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: being you know, hurt and out for the year with 505 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: his injury, and Max Johnson not clearly not being the 506 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: guy last year, but like were they with Kellen Mond? 507 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: Doesn't seem that like, how long are we going to 508 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: make this excuse for Texas A and M That just like, Wow, 509 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: Jimbo's got this stacked up against him, and what we 510 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 2: can just say, Jimbo Fisher isn't a great college football 511 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: coach in twenty twenty, Well, he's not, isn't. 512 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: He's not. And that's unfortunately where we're at. And I'll 513 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: talk more about that later. We got a whole other 514 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: segment that we're going to get into with it. But 515 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: I'm I'm of the mind that the excuses are feudal 516 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,959 Speaker 1: at this point. I mean, it's always the same result, 517 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: and that is part of the joke with A and 518 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: M right now, But it's always the same stuff. And 519 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: that's that's bothersome if you are an A and M 520 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: fan that it has not hitting nicely. Yeah, it has 521 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: not progressed. The fact that Tennessee wins this game with 522 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: one hundred yards passing is just mind blowing. They ran 523 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: for two thirty two and they turned it over to 524 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: their running backs and the biggest moments of the game. 525 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: But Joe Milton eleven for twenty two with one hundred 526 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: yards and they won this game. That was a winnable game. 527 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, hornable game. 528 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely was the final fire starter. Handwarmer, footwarmer. That I 529 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: want to discuss is this Miami North Carolina game. Yeah, 530 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: so this game was something else. Man final score after 531 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 1: a bit of a push from Miami. Ended up being 532 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: forty one to thirty one in favor of the North 533 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: Carolina tar Heels, winning at home in resounding fashion. This 534 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: was a game that Miami led at halftime. Miami's first 535 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: four drives after leading at half fumble, interception, punt, turnover 536 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: on downs I guess, turnover on downs technically the first 537 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: play of the fourth quarter. Meanwhile, in that same span 538 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: in the third quarter, North Carolina scored touchdowns on three 539 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: of their four drives. They went up eighteen points, and 540 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: that truly was the manner in which they took control 541 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: of this football game. Tes Walker got in on the action. 542 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: Score three touchdowns, had a really big game for North Carolina. 543 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: Drake May being Drake May, had a good game as well. 544 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: The story here was essentially North Carolina forcing mistakes from Miami. 545 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: It was Miami finding ways to beat itself, and we 546 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: saw that a week ago with George Tech in much 547 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: more embarrassing fashion. This was a little bit more of 548 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: the traditional variety. But this is if you're Mario Christoball, 549 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: if you're a Miami fan, this is exactly what you're 550 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: looking to stop doing. Yeah, stop doing these things and 551 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: you'll win more games. But in the meantime, you go 552 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: up against a good team like North Carolina. I think 553 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: we can agree at this point that North Carolina is 554 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: pretty good. Not sure exactly where we stand on the defense. 555 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: Right seven weeks in and haven't lost. That's great. 556 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: Seven weeks in, haven't lost. They seem to be on 557 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: a glide path to some tougher games in November when 558 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: they're going to remain unbeaten and have some high leverage spots. 559 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: You go up against a team like North Carolina, you 560 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: commit dumb mistakes, are going to lose. And that's where 561 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: Miami's at right now. 562 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, o Marion Hampton is emerging 563 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: as a full on star for North Carolina in the backfield. 564 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 2: I know they were sharing carries early on in the season, 565 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: but the balanced attack that Chip Lindsay's tar Heels have 566 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: right now, and it's just going to open things up 567 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: more and more in that big November stretch, during that 568 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: big November stretch for North Carolina, if they're able to 569 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: run like this and get the stops at and I 570 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: saw I think TVD played literal catch with Cyrus s 571 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 2: Gray on one of the interceptions. That's right, Tis Raight 572 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: didn't do a lot on that interception. He's like, well, 573 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: this is my zone. I'm just going to kind of 574 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 2: backpedal into it, and TVD just threw it to them. 575 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: So if they're able to do basic things on defense 576 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 2: and have a sort of balance potent offense as the 577 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: game wears on, because Miami did a nice job against 578 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: North Carolina early and tar Hills got stronger as the 579 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: game went on, it's a great spot right now for 580 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 2: the Heels. 581 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: Four turnovers for the Keynes. Now, North Carolina, for its part, 582 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: was not void of mistakes. Fourteen penalties for one hundred 583 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: and forty seven yards, which. 584 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: Is also true. 585 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: That's a lot. True, Yeah, that's a lot. It's not 586 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: like they're bull proof, but four times that scale. Winning 587 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: is a skill. Winning is a skill. So whether it 588 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: was Drake May, Marion Hampton, tes Walker, North Carolina got 589 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: it's on the offensive side of the ball. And despite 590 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: the fact that they gave up thirty one points a 591 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: lot of that in a feverish comeback effort from Miami, 592 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: despite the fact that they gave up a lot of yardage, 593 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: TVD had to throw it forty eight times try and 594 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: get back in this thing. Creating those turnovers was essential. 595 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: Creating those turnovers was key. They didn't convert all of 596 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: them to points, but just to stop the drive against 597 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: what I still think it can be a good offense 598 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: in Miami is pretty important. 599 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: Agree. 600 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: So there you go. Those I believe are our headliners 601 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: for the week that was in Week seven. As we 602 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: sit here around the campfire, though, you know how we do. 603 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: Of course, let's just say something nice about a bunch 604 00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: of other teams and other games, shall we, Ah, give 605 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: me some good vibrations, good vibrations from elsewhere around college football. 606 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: Okay, we've talked about the SEC, We've talked about the 607 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: Pac twelve a little bit, but it was kind of 608 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: a crazy day in the Pac twelve. Utah keeps winning 609 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: without a quarterback. That's hard to do. They decided to 610 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: just run the hell out of the ball with what 611 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 2: I mean they're starting running back and their safety. I 612 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: think it's Cione Vaki. Yeah, he runs for one hundred 613 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: and fifty yards. They stomp col and keep mostly winning. 614 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: And so you know, we talked a little bit about, 615 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: you know, the severity of Cam Rising's knee injury coming 616 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: out more and more it's good man, It's good if 617 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: you can comfortably win without a quarterback. Good for you, 618 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: Oregon State. I'm not going to focus on the negative 619 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: UCLA right now, but Dju had himself a great game. 620 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: The organ State defense had a great game, and I 621 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: don't know where they're going to stand when it's all 622 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: said and done in the Pac twelve. But you talk 623 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: about a spoiler right now with having both Oregon and 624 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: Washington and like maybe the biggest threat for each on 625 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: the remainder of their schedules depending on how you feel 626 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: about USC, that Oregon State is going to be squarely 627 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: in the college football picture moving forward, even if it's 628 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 2: just as somebody who could spoil things. But even they're 629 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 2: just a good team against flawed ones more and more so, 630 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: good for them. How about Arizona in the Pac twelve? 631 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: By the way, what was that forty four to six 632 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: over Wazoo. 633 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: In a huge letdown spot going to Pullman after losing 634 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: in triple overtime to USC. Noah Fafida are the are 635 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: pal Jake who we work with, He was like, can 636 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 2: you please mention Arizona as the best three loss team 637 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,719 Speaker 2: in the country. I can't argue with it. 638 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: They're good. Noah Fafieda might be better than Jayden Dolora. 639 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: He's been great the last two weeks. 640 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: He has been very, very good. And they were balanced. 641 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: They ran the ball, they spread the ball around. Wazoo 642 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 2: scored early, and then Arizona just I think they went 643 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: on a forty four to nothing run. 644 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: Hey trucked them. I looked at the score. It was 645 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: everybody has this moment. Usually it's when it's a low 646 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: score you look at a box score and the stats 647 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: are off. But sometimes it's when the score looks really 648 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: out of whack where you just kind of refresh it 649 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: and you think, oh, the Wi fi is stuck, or 650 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: I need to update the app, you know what I mean, 651 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: Like everybody's had that. I was doing that when I 652 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: saw that score, because I didn't believe it at first, 653 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: and then I checked. I checked ESPN and CBS and 654 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: fold like all these sources and they awed the same thing. 655 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, what a showing for Jed Fish. 656 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. In watching this game back and forth with other stuff, 657 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: it's just very clear that Arizona has its act together, 658 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: and so they are. They are more cohesive than I 659 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: thought they would be. But look, we're seven weeks into 660 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 2: the season, so they've taken a nice step forward elsewhere 661 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: in the SEC. By the way, can I say something 662 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: nice like Jaden Daniels might be like he should be 663 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: in New York this coming December. Like LSU played defense, 664 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 2: LSU spread the ball around. I get where Auburn is 665 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: at right now as a program. LSU hasn't been playing 666 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: defense against anybody. They got stops, they made plays, and 667 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: they took care of business like they should be doing 668 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 2: against overmatch teams. So great job from Jayden Daniels again, 669 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: Hull hum. 670 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, it helps that Auburn can't really throw di Well, sure, 671 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: I mean it helps. We have to be Yeah, we 672 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: have to be complete in our coverage here. But that 673 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: being said, Auburn likes to run and they couldn't really 674 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 1: do that either. Yeah, and this is an LSU team 675 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: that has been more than generous. However, you want to 676 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: take the rs, they'll give them to you. So forty 677 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: eight to eighteen was your final. LSU knocks off Auburn, 678 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: And your point on Jade Daniels is right of the money. 679 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: He is, like you often say about Cale Williams, how 680 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 1: they've constructed the entire plane out of him. That offense, 681 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: they've basically done that. On the LSU side, Logan Digs 682 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: has been fine on the ground, but this is a 683 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels operation and he has performed admirably. 684 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 2: He is he's the clear best quarterback in the SEC, 685 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: depending on how you feel about Graham Mertz and what 686 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: he was able to do shredding South Carolina. Friends, he's back. 687 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 2: By the way, the thing that I thought about with 688 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 2: the LSU win and Auburn can't throw what it means 689 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 2: for the Alabama game and they're like, okay, so has 690 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 2: LSU defense solved something because Alabama's offense has not solved 691 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 2: on something under the wunderkind Tommy Reese second half against Arkansas, which, 692 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 2: by the way, good for Arkansas if we're talking about 693 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 2: good vibrations, kJ Jefferson making plays, the defense overwhelming the 694 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 2: Alabama offensive line in that second half. At times they 695 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 2: got a lot of fight in them. They're not a 696 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: great team, but just in terms of good vibrations, I'm 697 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: feeling like the Alabama LSU game is going to be bonkers. Yeah, 698 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 2: absolutely bonkers coming up here soon. Did you how much 699 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 2: of Florida South Carolina. Did you see if any. 700 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 1: I saw a fair chunk of the second half? 701 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 2: Okay, love that game. I mean that game gave me 702 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 2: good vibrations. That what Florida down ten, I don't know what. 703 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 2: Don't interpret me saying it gave me good vibrations in 704 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 2: a strange way, unless it's your thing. Spencer Ratler made 705 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 2: some incredible throws. Graham Mertz made some incredible throws for 706 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: Florida to do that on the road after looking like 707 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: what they've looked like on the road this year. For 708 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 2: Graham Mertz to throw for I don't know what. His 709 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 2: final line was four hundred and some odd yards. 710 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: Four twenty three and three touchdowns. Graham Mertz is back, Dan, 711 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: He's back. Yeah, he is so back. 712 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: It's a great vibration, not even just a good vibration 713 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 2: for Florida. Get a win like that on the road, 714 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 2: seal it like they did. That was great. That was 715 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 2: a great moment for college football. 716 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: Florida scored forty one points and one forty one to 717 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 1: thirty nine over South Carolina despite going four to fifteen 718 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: on third downs, which is sort of a backward. 719 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I give you that. 720 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: But hey, it was a shootout. The offense didn't back down. 721 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 2: No good use of Tom Petty right there, even if 722 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 2: it was unintentional elsewhere in the SEC. Good vibration wise. 723 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 2: I kind of liked the fight from Vandy. The game 724 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 2: was pretty close late. It was weirdly pretty close late. 725 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 2: They scored early on in that game. Eventually Georgia separates themselves. 726 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 2: I saw brock Bauers got hurt, but I think he's 727 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 2: hopefully going to be okay. It's not like an ankle break, 728 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: it might just be an ankle sprain. I appreciate that 729 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 2: sort of competitiveness from from brock Bauers fighting. I don't 730 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 2: know what else in the SEC well gave me those vibrations. 731 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: We got to give a shout out to the broadcast 732 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: team in the Missoo Kentucky game. So Zoo beats Kentucky. 733 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: But they they showed one of our tweets. 734 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 2: Oh what was it that? 735 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: I think it was mine, I don't remember if it 736 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: was mine of yours. They showed the tweet about we 737 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: need to make the shirt about let Brady Cook. 738 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 2: Oh, that's definitely you. That's great at me let Brady 739 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 2: Brady Cook. He didn't. He kind of ordered takeout at times. 740 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: Yeah did really cook didn't really creeping this game, But 741 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: they won. 742 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 2: They look good, they won. The defense actually came alive 743 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 2: a little bit. Kentucky is still struggling on offense. But again, 744 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: this is if you're looking at either one of these 745 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 2: teams and what they had penciled in for the rest 746 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 2: of the year, they were both on it in terms 747 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: of wins. So good for Mazoo at this point that 748 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 2: they set themselves up as one of the more fascinating 749 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 2: teams back half of the schedule. 750 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: So my good vibrations. I want to start in the 751 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: Big twelve. Rocko Frickin' Beck baby, Yeah, man, rock O 752 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: Beck is a dude, plays for Iowa State. He had 753 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: a great game in the win over Cincinnati thirty to ten. 754 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: They mentioned October on the broadcast, which we're partial to 755 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: October here, of course, don't look now, but Iowa States 756 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: back to five hundred. It was a rough go Matt 757 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 1: Campbell kind of mixing it up with fans and listen. 758 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 2: That was a great moment though. It was good vibrations 759 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 2: from that. We make we make content, Okay, that was 760 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,439 Speaker 2: a free moment for Ushah. Back to five hundred. They're 761 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 2: getting better. It's clear they're getting better. After the bye week. 762 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 2: They're on by now they've got Baylor, Kansas BYU Texas 763 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 2: and Kansas State. I'm not going to say that is 764 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 2: an easy stretch, but Iowa State at least looking a 765 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: lot more formidable here, feels like they've got their guy 766 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: at quarterback, feels like they're starting to build some support 767 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 2: around him. 768 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: We know they've already got the defense. I'm not going 769 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: to say that they're going to finish nine and three. 770 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: That's not where I'm going with this, But could Iowa 771 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: State win seven games? I think it's very much on 772 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 1: the tabline, very much on the table. So good vibes 773 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: all around on the Iowa State side. Also in the 774 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: Big Twelve, shout out Avery Johnson. 775 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 2: Oh a, Varry Johnson, Yeah, yeah, I think he's the 776 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,919 Speaker 2: guy man. Look, we love Will Howard. Will Howard won 777 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 2: this team the Big Twelve last year in relief of 778 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 2: Adrian Martinez. I tried to tell you early on in 779 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 2: the year he did No you did, you did? There's 780 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 2: a twinkle college football twinkle in Manhattan. 781 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,479 Speaker 1: The clouds part a little bit. When he gets bast Sands. 782 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: He had five rushing touchdowns in this game in case 783 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 1: States win over Texas Tech KSE State hammered Texas Tech 784 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: on the road, and Avery Johnson was a big part 785 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: of that five rushing touchdowns for the freshmen. 786 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 2: So that in a bounce back effort by the way 787 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 2: big toocter losing like they did to Oklahoma State. 788 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: Uh, acc wise, Keon Coleman, I mean, it wasn't exactly 789 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: like Florida State went up against a juggernaut in the 790 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: form of Qus. Syracuse got drilled a week ago by 791 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: North Carolina. We saw the writing on the wall here 792 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: with Florida State. The question for Florida State has been 793 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: how they're going to handle these tweener games that don't 794 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: matter as much as some of the big headliners. They've 795 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: done well in the headliners, but what about qs? What 796 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: about these forty one to three? This was never a contest, 797 00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,720 Speaker 1: but Keon Coleman six for one fourteen and a touchdown 798 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: in the first half, finished with nine for one forty 799 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: and a touchdown in the game. Keon Coleman proving to 800 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: be I don't know if the most impactful transfer is 801 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: the right way to characterize it, but certainly one of 802 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 1: the most impactful transfers throughout college football so far this season. 803 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: So shout out to him in the ACC. Also shout 804 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: out to the pit fricking Panthers Dan. 805 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, they needed this, They needed that pick six 806 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,800 Speaker 2: they needed the night against Louisville. 807 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, what a neck crack for these guys. A dreadful, 808 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: dreadful one in four start for the Pitt Panthers, after 809 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: which they demoted their quarterback to tight end. Then I 810 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: think demoted him from tight end to something else that 811 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: we have. We don't know what that is. They just 812 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: said he's actually not playing tight end. Now, naturally, they 813 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: just knock the snot out of the number fourteen team 814 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: in the country, the Louisville Cardinals. A week after Louisville, 815 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: Louisville knocks off notre name fighting Irish Pits scored what 816 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: thirty eight points in a game like this, and it's 817 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: not not all on offense. It's still Pitt we're talking 818 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: about here, right. It wasn't exactly the type of the 819 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,439 Speaker 1: type of statistical performance where you look at and say, wow, 820 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: Pitt with pinball numbers, Nothing like that, I promise you. 821 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 2: I thought I was just having a stroke I thought 822 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,280 Speaker 2: you called Louisville the number four team team in the country, 823 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,720 Speaker 2: the number fourteen fourteen that's right? Yeah, sorry, not fourteen. Yeah, 824 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 2: that was probably on me and I was like, wait, 825 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 2: what what did I miss? As I flew out West Okay? Yeah? 826 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 2: And Christian Veyo is that he pronounce you? 827 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: Yeah? 828 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 2: Ue Value? Yeah? 829 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: Who? 830 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 2: I think we last saw struggling against Iowa when he 831 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,760 Speaker 2: had to replace who was that Sean Sean Clifford against 832 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 2: against the Hawkeye. So a nice bounce back story for 833 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 2: him in relief and Pitt getting it done somehow, some way, 834 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 2: it gets it done. 835 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: Uh big ten, throw your jokes into the fire, Dan, 836 00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: toss them in, let them smolder. That's right, Thank you, 837 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: great sound effect. Iowa is doing something remarkable. 838 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 2: What have we called it? 839 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: Ty? What have we called it? 840 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 2: The reverse frosting? 841 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 1: A little bit of reverse foster. 842 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 2: They're gonna be the worst ten and two team of 843 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 2: all time. 844 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Iowa is doing something remarkable. They're answering a question 845 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: that I have had that I'm sure the listeners have had. 846 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: They never knew it. What would Navy be like if 847 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: it played defense? I guess Iowa is Navy with a 848 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 1: defense that's essentially what they are. They don't care about 849 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 1: throwing it. They don't care. 850 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 2: No, you're right, they don't care. 851 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,240 Speaker 1: They had two hundred and thirty seven yards of offense 852 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: in this game. Actually they're not even Navy on offense, 853 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: but they're just not going to throw the ball. They 854 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: don't care. They had two hundred and thirty seven total yards, 855 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: eighty two of which came on an early touchdown run. 856 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,919 Speaker 1: The rest of the way. You can do the math. 857 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,240 Speaker 1: I did the math on that at like one hundred 858 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: and fifty yards the rest of the way. They beat 859 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: Wisconsin fifteen to six. They've got one loss. They're very 860 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: much in the driver's seat in the Big Ten West. 861 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: They're gonna go to the Big Ten title game. Nobody 862 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten West is going to beat Iowa. 863 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: Nobody is going to beat them. 864 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 2: Dan, I wonder if we can figure out what Iowa's 865 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 2: record is like. Once they get that seventy seven yard 866 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 2: touchdown run like they always seems to happen, they're just like, 867 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was Caleb what was this 868 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson in last year or two, and then it 869 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 2: was Lashawn Williams. Is that who had the one today 870 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 2: that once they get that long touchdown run that like 871 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 2: is everybody on the headset is like, all right, back 872 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 2: it in, guys. That's that's a day. That's all we needed. 873 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 2: And it's kind of true. They just played baseball blowouts Iowa. 874 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 2: So like Iowa beat it says here Wisconsin. I thought 875 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 2: Tanner Mordecai got hurt, right, it says here Wisconsin. This 876 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 2: might as well be like Iowa football beat the Seattle 877 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 2: man Berners fifteen to six. That's how they play now. 878 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 2: And that's why we're getting a reverse Scott Frost, who 879 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 2: coached the best three and nine team ever, We're going 880 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 2: to see the best eleven and one or whatever team ever. 881 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 1: And final point on the Big ten Rutgers Rutgers Baby 882 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 1: Rutgers scored twenty one unanswered points to beat Michigan State 883 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Rutgers now starts five and zero 884 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,240 Speaker 1: at home for the first time since two thousand and six. 885 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 1: Been a minute, But Rutgers is one win from going bowling. 886 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, they very much go. 887 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 1: Be Week eight one win away. 888 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 2: So do they have Week eight? Good on them? I 889 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 2: don't got it in front of me. Oh okay, anything 890 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 2: else in the big time. I saw Maryland went down 891 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 2: to Illinois in a bit of a Mike Loxley battle. 892 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 2: I think it's offenseive coordinator way back when anything else 893 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 2: that gave you some good vibrations. That was a field 894 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 2: goal at the gun. 895 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 1: If I remember field goal with the gun, yeah, I 896 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,919 Speaker 1: mean Michigan Ohio State one in resounding fashion Penn State 897 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,720 Speaker 1: one sixty three to nil. The only other real point 898 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,320 Speaker 1: of note was the Illinois Maryland game. 899 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 2: When we get to high night, bad year, good good day, 900 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 2: when we get to scary stories, perhaps we could talk 901 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 2: about the Colorado defense, which I know you did not mention. 902 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 2: I know I didn't mention that. Well, I don't know 903 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 2: how we even. I was saving it for scary stories, 904 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 2: and saving it is alec A o'mannor who had two 905 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 2: hundred ninety Oh my god. 906 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it all right, those are good vibrations. 907 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,359 Speaker 1: We're sitting here around the campfire. I'm gonna get my 908 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: flashlight out and shine it on my face. Let's do 909 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: some scary stories from this week. We've named this the 910 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: Rocky Lombardi Picture Show. I like that Rocy Lombardi is 911 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: still playing, by the way, which is wild. 912 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was class of two thousand and eight. He's 913 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 2: a CPA. Now he's been in school long enough. Now, 914 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 2: Rocy Lombarti's n IU after transferring in from Michigan State. 915 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,720 Speaker 2: All right, what is our Scary Story SCAE segment. 916 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: We're just going to talk about bizarre things that happened 917 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 1: in the world of college football. 918 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 2: We're going to talk. 919 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 1: About things that scared us, things that were perhaps influenced 920 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: by the occult forces of my reverse jinks and whatnot. 921 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about BYU. Yes, who just 922 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:29,479 Speaker 1: got fed BYU on offense. Dreadful BYU as a team 923 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: out gained by three hundred and forty one yards. They 924 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: went two of fourteen on third downs. They got absolutely 925 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: destroyed by TCU on the road. They lost forty four 926 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 1: to eleven. Nice win for TCU, by the way, but 927 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 1: BYU was a five and a half point road dog. 928 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,760 Speaker 1: A lot of people you and I agreed on that game. 929 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: We like BYU, and we said, yeah, we don't think 930 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 1: TCU is all that good. They drilled BYU in this game. 931 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 2: So Josh Hoover gets the start and it was it 932 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,800 Speaker 2: was just ugly from BYU. 933 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: That's continue. That's right, all right. Elsewhere, I do want 934 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 1: to get to this Stanford Colorado game. Perhaps you can 935 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: talk about Colorado's defense and what went down in this 936 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: game despite having a twenty nine to nil lead. I 937 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 1: want to talk about the refs speaking of bizarre moments. 938 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: I've never seen this before in college football. It got 939 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: a chuckle from everybody online. The refs were not having 940 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: it with the guy whoever the intern was up in 941 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 1: the booth and Boulder whoever was in charge of the 942 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: sound effects button was playing the sound effects as Stanford 943 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 1: was information and about ready to run a play, and 944 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 1: it led to a very bizarre moment with the ref 945 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: coming on the PA system and saying, please stop doing that, 946 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 1: otherwise we're going to assess a penalty to Colorado. I've 947 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: never seen that before. 948 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 2: My horror form from the stadium operations crew at Colorado 949 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 2: poorer form from Colorado Tye Holy hell. So it was 950 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 2: I think Ashton Daniels didn't start this game for Stanford. 951 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 2: Travis Hunter comes back, Travis Hunter gets scorched. Travis Hunter 952 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 2: seems to play a thousand plays in this game. It 953 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 2: was elk a omanor if I pronounced that godictly Stanford 954 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 2: comes back. Dion elected. So Stanford comes back down twenty 955 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 2: nine at the half. They come back to tie it 956 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 2: with a field goal in the waning seconds. It goes 957 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 2: to overtime. Deon chooses to go on offense, I believe, 958 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 2: which is pretty rare. If you win the coin toss 959 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 2: and Stanford ends up winning this one, it goes what 960 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 2: two overtimes and Stanford wins it on the strength of, 961 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 2: by the way, an incredible catch on the helmet of 962 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 2: Travis Hunter from so. 963 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 1: It was one of those deals where he's backpedaling. Travis Hunter, 964 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: who played in this game, was back and had a 965 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 1: hell of a game on offense. Credit like a sick 966 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: spin move, touchdown and run. It was really really he 967 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: had a good game. But this was one of those 968 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 1: deals where the receiver was back pedaling. Ball came in, 969 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: Travis Hunter did not see it. Receiver reaches around, Travis 970 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,720 Speaker 1: Hunter pins the ball to the back of his helmet, 971 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 1: back pedals a little bit until he can get a 972 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 1: grip on the ball, then kind of maneuvers it away 973 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: from the helmet, goes on to score a touchdown. Crazy 974 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: crazy play. 975 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 2: I'm pretty in terms of scariness I don't know. It 976 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 2: depends how it sort of resonates with your brain, and 977 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 2: your mileage may vary, but Houston Cougar's pretty scary way 978 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,800 Speaker 2: to lose if you're a West Virginia Fanily, that was boy. 979 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 2: A couple nights ago, seemed like things were gonna be 980 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 2: pretty nice for West Virginia. That's the first Is that 981 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 2: the first win from a new Big twelve team against 982 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 2: a longtime Big twelve team. I believe this Houston win. 983 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: I mean, what a way to win too. 984 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 2: A Hail Mary, Wow come back. 985 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: It was a crazy one to two sequence. It was 986 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: a crazy past that got West Virginia up thirty nine 987 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,959 Speaker 1: thirty five to begin, and then Houston getting a chance 988 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 1: at a Hail Mary and completing it. 989 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 2: I mean, talk about a cult forces. Jeez, it was 990 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 2: that was wild. I'm trying to think what else? What 991 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 2: else was scary to you? I mean, I can well 992 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 2: back to Oregon on fourth down. That was pretty terrifying 993 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 2: to me. On my couch. 994 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: Well, I talk a lot about zombie Alabama. Generally, I 995 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 1: would say that zombie Alabama's pretty scary, and I declared 996 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: zombie Alabama back about midway through the first half, and 997 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 1: it's a parent that Arkansas fought and Arkansas was able 998 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: to kind of hold Alabama down. Alabama offense is in 999 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 1: a really weird spot right now. I think, Jaywait, we 1000 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 1: know at this point Jalen Milroe is the guy that 1001 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: they're going to roll with, but wasn't exactly a great 1002 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 1: game from him on the passing side. I still would 1003 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: love to see them turn him loose and let him 1004 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,399 Speaker 1: run a little bit more than he has right now. 1005 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: It's just a lot of scrambling. It's not that much designed. 1006 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're afraid of gettinghim hurt because 1007 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,320 Speaker 1: they don't want to have to go to Tyler Buckner 1008 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: or Tye Simpson. I don't know what the thought is there, 1009 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,840 Speaker 1: because all we heard about with respect to Jalen Milroe 1010 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 1: was his elite NFL caliber speed and we just have 1011 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 1: not seen enough of it for my taste. That being said, 1012 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 1: wins win, but Arkansas kept this one relatively close. I 1013 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: am extremely interested the rest of the way as Alabama 1014 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,760 Speaker 1: plays some of these teams on its schedule to see 1015 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 1: what that looks like, to see what it looks like 1016 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,400 Speaker 1: this coming week against Tennessee. I like their chances against Tennessee. 1017 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,399 Speaker 1: I did pick Tennessee in the preseason. I probably won't 1018 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 1: pick them now that I know what I know. But 1019 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 1: interesting game, the LSU game that you mentioned earlier. I 1020 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: don't know if we're fully at zombie Alabama again, I 1021 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 1: don't know where if we're at the point where Alabama 1022 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 1: is undead and is going to rip through the rest 1023 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 1: of it's the rest of its schedule. 1024 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:19,840 Speaker 2: Well, like most zombies, Alabama needs brains. Because they couldn't 1025 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,479 Speaker 2: score in the second half. There was it was Jalen 1026 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 2: Milroe popping a couple of big plays. Then Kobe Prentice 1027 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 2: caught one of the longer passes and that was kind 1028 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 2: of it. They didn't score a touchdown in the second half, right, 1029 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 2: they just hung on against Arkansas, if I'm if I'm 1030 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 2: remembering correctly, it was a hang on job. Yeah, Guys 1031 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 2: like Dallas Turner on defense dragged him across the finish line. 1032 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I'm I thought we had zombie 1033 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 1: Alabama back. So it's it's it's fright I don't. 1034 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:48,839 Speaker 2: I just I don't think Alabama's that good. 1035 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 1: It's frightening me in on two sides of the coin. 1036 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 1: If zombie Alabama's back in some sense, then that's obviously 1037 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,720 Speaker 1: frightening for all opponents. If they're not back, then that's frightening, 1038 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: I think for all Obama fans, because you do have 1039 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 1: this lumpy quality to the way they play. Other scary 1040 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 1: moments this week brock Bowers went down. If you saw this, 1041 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 1: brock Bowers right, we talked, Yeah, a bit of a 1042 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 1: scare in the second quartery limped off, ends up being 1043 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 1: a sprained ankle. He's gonna be okay, but he had 1044 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: precautionary X rays. Kirby Smart said he's fine. There's also 1045 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,280 Speaker 1: a moment in the Memphis game where dude sucker punched 1046 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,319 Speaker 1: another dude in the spot where you're not supposed to 1047 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 1: sucker punch guys. That was not very funny thing like 1048 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 1: that scary. That was the kind of thing that you 1049 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 1: see the video and it's like, oh, I felt that. 1050 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 1: I felt that a little bit and it hurt. So 1051 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 1: any other scary moments for you, Dan looking for stollege football. 1052 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 2: It's been a scary couple weeks if you enjoy Syracuse 1053 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:50,720 Speaker 2: football with what they suffered at the hands of Florida 1054 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 2: State with that's very l english And then Clemson and 1055 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,799 Speaker 2: they just have been shelled recently Syracuse. Well that was 1056 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 2: two weeks ago Clemson, right, they have Florida State this week. 1057 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,319 Speaker 2: It was toa feely and Trey Benson running all over them. 1058 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,800 Speaker 2: Jordan Travis made some big plays. It's it's pretty scary 1059 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 2: right now, considering that this team started out winning a 1060 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 2: bunch of games and now fading pretty quickly. 1061 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: Let's get to the roast we used to roast to 1062 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,240 Speaker 1: stay off marshmallows by the fire at Capital Conda. Let's 1063 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 1: close things out, Dan with some hot fire, some takes 1064 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 1: from you and I. We've got takes from the Reverblind 1065 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,800 Speaker 1: as well. Not a full compliment from the reverb Blind, 1066 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,359 Speaker 1: just a sampling. Will play an extended cut out on 1067 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 1: our Patreon at forbawlers dot com. We will get back 1068 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 1: to playing more of the full compliment next week. Just 1069 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,400 Speaker 1: again a sampling here as we test out our roast segment. 1070 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 1: But my I guess biggest hottest take is not anything 1071 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 1: that is going to be groundbreaking or break the internet 1072 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 1: or something that everybody listening to this stream or to 1073 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: this to this on demand audio has not already thought 1074 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 1: it's time to cut bait with Jimbo Fisher. It is time. 1075 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 1: It is time to get the oil money together. It 1076 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: is time to find some underhanded way to pay the 1077 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: man off so that he goes away and rides off 1078 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,800 Speaker 1: peacefully into the sunset. He's had a long, storied career. 1079 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 1: Guy won a national championship. I'm sure it could coach 1080 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 1: somewhere else. I'm sure it could get some broadcasting work. 1081 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1082 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 2: You got somebody in mind to replace him, No, guys 1083 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 2: got options. 1084 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 1: Mike Elko would be great. But my only point is 1085 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: this A and M is now staring down the barrel 1086 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,280 Speaker 1: of eight and four again, maybe seven and five, maybe worse. 1087 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: And we all know where this thing is going to go. 1088 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 1: We all know that the natural conclusion is Jimbo Fisher 1089 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: is not gonna be there next year. Seems like the 1090 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: logical thing for me. So if it's going to be 1091 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 1: done eventually, just do it immediately. Just get your name 1092 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,319 Speaker 1: in the hat. Let everybody signal to anybody out there 1093 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,959 Speaker 1: who was interested in a new gig that the job 1094 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,359 Speaker 1: in college station is going to be open, and let's 1095 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 1: just move on. Let's not kid ourselves this point. AM's 1096 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 1: got three losses. They were clearly aspiring for a lot more. 1097 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 1: And to your point from earlier, of course there are 1098 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: built in excuses, got the backup quarterback, injuries, whatever else. 1099 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 1: But it is clear at this point that whatever the 1100 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 1: project looked like from the perspective of Jimbo Fisher to 1101 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 1: rectify the A and M situation, it's not it's not 1102 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 1: going to happen. He's had enough time to sign a 1103 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 1: cup bait. 1104 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 2: Do you think Kaitlin de Boor's wife is going to 1105 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,920 Speaker 2: begin looking for real estate and conversation? 1106 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 1: No, I don't. I've heard the rumor. No, no, no. 1107 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 2: Here in lots of rumors. 1108 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 1: Okay, would A and M higher urban? 1109 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 2: No, nobody's hiring room. 1110 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:49,919 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's hiring. 1111 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 2: No, nobody'shiring romire. Yeah, that's that's not a bad take. 1112 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 2: You ready for my ROAs? 1113 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 1: Who you roasting? What are you roasting? I think we. 1114 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 2: Fully need to. I mean we kind of did already today. 1115 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 2: But I think as a college football community fully ignore Michigan, Like, 1116 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 2: let's not watch Michigan highlights, let's not talk about what 1117 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 2: Michigan should be ranked. Let's not, you know, think about 1118 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 2: a four team. Like if I were to ask you 1119 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,360 Speaker 2: right now, who which four teams do you have in 1120 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 2: your playoff? And you just fully omit Michigan. I think 1121 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 2: that's worthwhile. Why, Like, they have not done a single 1122 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 2: thing this year that is worth attention. They've taken care 1123 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 2: of business in impressive ways. But they beat Indiana fifty 1124 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 2: two to seven. They have nobody until they have a 1125 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 2: two game season right now, and the way that they scheduled, 1126 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 2: the way that the Big Ten is, and it's not 1127 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 2: fully their fault that the Big Ten is what it is, 1128 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 2: that the Michigan State game will go the way that 1129 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 2: it will go with how Michigan State is playing this year, 1130 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 2: But right now, Michigan to me, like, there's nothing worthwhile 1131 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 2: to say about Michigan, is there? Like, how do you 1132 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,479 Speaker 2: form any sort of opinion about Michigan with the teams 1133 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 2: they've played this year? They've taken care of business. 1134 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 1: That's not my answer this though, you know my stance 1135 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 1: on this. My stance has always been that a team 1136 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 1: is not defined by its schedule. 1137 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 2: I know they've done what an excellent team should do 1138 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 2: against their schedule, But like if I hear Dan Orlovsky say, 1139 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 2: Michigan might be the most complete team in the country. 1140 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 2: What what there's no there's no data right now on 1141 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 2: Michigan and we're in October, like mid October on Michigan. 1142 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,600 Speaker 2: Like what opinion about Michigan can you have that's worthwhile 1143 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 2: right now? Like that they've taken care of business. They've 1144 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,200 Speaker 2: taken care of business, and like we think they're really good. 1145 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 2: They've made the Playoff a couple of years in a row, 1146 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 2: But like, do we know nothing about this year's team? 1147 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: Really, I'm standing by my pick of Michigan as a 1148 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 1: national champion. 1149 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 2: That's fine and that will come to pass. I just 1150 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 2: like in the college football conversation right now, like we 1151 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 2: can talk about North Carolina improving. We can talk about, 1152 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 2: you know, how's Texas going to bounce back from Oklahoma? 1153 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,000 Speaker 2: Or is Oklahoma against the back half of their schedule 1154 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 2: going to continue its winning ways. We can talk about 1155 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 2: Oregon and Washington. We can talk about you know, Florida State. 1156 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 2: We can talk about Alabama's flaws or LSU's flaws, or 1157 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 2: Georgia's flaws or Tennessee's flaws. What is there to talk 1158 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,960 Speaker 2: about with Michigan. I'm not saying excellence is boring. I'm 1159 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 2: saying because of their schedule. There's nothing that we can 1160 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 2: accurately say about Michigan. 1161 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Their current strength of schedule ranking, I should say current 1162 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 1: as of a week ago was one hundred and fourteenth. 1163 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 2: And it's like Michigan shouldn't be part of the college 1164 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 2: football conversation right now. 1165 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,440 Speaker 1: It's not necessarily through the fault of the players plays. 1166 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 2: No, it's not the fault of players. It's not the fault. 1167 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 2: It's not even the fault of the program. It's just 1168 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 2: there's it's not there a program not worth talking about 1169 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 2: right now until we get to the final two, you know, 1170 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 2: not final two, but the two of the final three 1171 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 2: weeks of the season for the Wolverines. 1172 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 1: At Penn State week eleven, obviously the big rivalry against 1173 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 1: Ohio State at home. In week thirteen, Sandwich games on 1174 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 1: the road at Maryland. We probably see Maryland in a 1175 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 1: bit of a different light. After all, it is now 1176 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 1: October and not September. 1177 01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 2: It's Michigan State and Purdue leading up to Penn State. 1178 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, any other takes from you, Dan before we 1179 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,520 Speaker 1: kick it to the forbawler hood. 1180 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one other one. And I was workshopping this 1181 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 2: for a while. I have no idea if the ACC 1182 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 2: is incredible or the worst thing ever right now, Like 1183 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 2: Clemson isn't especially watchable, Florida State seems like they're getting 1184 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:22,680 Speaker 2: their act together. North Carolina seems improved, but like Pitt 1185 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,360 Speaker 2: has been terrible. Tv NC State has wasted everybody's time 1186 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 2: this year, right, I've. 1187 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 1: Been saying it, you know, I made that comment a 1188 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,120 Speaker 1: couple weeks ago, and I had a couple people tweet me, 1189 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 1: nice people, not trying to be snarky, like, are you 1190 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 1: sure about that? You really feel that way about. 1191 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 2: NCCC to make an offensive coordinator change, and they get 1192 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 2: Brennan Armstrong. They bench Brennan Armstrong. 1193 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 3: MJ. 1194 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:48,960 Speaker 2: Morris wasn't especially good against Pitt. They're wasting all of 1195 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 2: our time, all of our hopes and dreams. Wake Forest 1196 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 2: has taken a step back, obviously losing the Virginia tach. 1197 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 2: Virginia Tech has been terrible. Virginia has been at times 1198 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 2: feisty and entertaining, but also at times terrible. Miami is 1199 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 2: its own whole deal. After what they did last week, 1200 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 2: they've been disappointing. There's just something about the ACC right 1201 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,440 Speaker 2: now where you're just like, should you invest any emotion 1202 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 2: if you're a fan of an ACC team that isn't 1203 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 2: Florida State or North Carolina in this moment, should you 1204 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 2: invest any sort of emotion in this conference? Flip side? 1205 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 2: Are they the most incredible conference in college football because 1206 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 2: of that week to week nonsense? Yeah, I'm not sure 1207 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,680 Speaker 2: I know where I stand. But there's something that's just 1208 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 2: chaotic and explosive about the ACC that drives me a 1209 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:34,400 Speaker 2: little bit nuts. 1210 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 1: I love the North Carolina story. Okay, I love the 1211 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 1: North Carolina story. North Carolina is going to be a 1212 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 1: whisper quiet undefeated team. Whisper quiet undefeated team going into 1213 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 1: the latter half of its schedule, and they do not 1214 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,440 Speaker 1: play Florida State, they do not play Louisville. There will 1215 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 1: be opportunities to lose. I'm still not one hundred percent 1216 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 1: sold in that defense. But to your point, yeah, it's 1217 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:00,160 Speaker 1: nothing if not interesting. 1218 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 2: If your starting point is Drake May, it's good. 1219 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 1: You do a lot worse than that. 1220 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. 1221 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 1: We got a sampling of roasts that came in on 1222 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 1: the Reverb Wine again Forballers dot Com. You can get 1223 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 1: the full extended version. We're gonna post that over the 1224 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 1: next couple days or so. Next week around the campfire, 1225 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 1: we'll have a little bit more in the in the 1226 01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 1: roasting basket. But roasting basket, here's what we got here 1227 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 1: at rever Bland. 1228 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 3: Have listened Daniels calling in from going me to South Carolina, 1229 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:30,920 Speaker 3: and Dan, I don't want to hear any of your 1230 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 3: false positivity of man Oregon really tried it. 1231 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 4: Oh blah uh uh. You've been beaten down on time 1232 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,320 Speaker 4: in these notreed ame losses and I need some raw, 1233 01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,560 Speaker 4: terribly sad emotions to match where I'm at right now 1234 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 4: because my fiance's out here. Try to be deportive, but 1235 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 4: nobody understands how feel it. 1236 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:55,479 Speaker 5: This is Eric in Tempe, Arizona, local Huskey fan out here, 1237 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 5: and listen. 1238 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,080 Speaker 1: Oregon is an excellent team. 1239 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 5: They run the ball well, but when it matters mo 1240 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,440 Speaker 5: they choke, can't convern off fourth down, can't kick the 1241 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 5: field goal. The Huskies are the best team in the 1242 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 5: best conference. 1243 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,920 Speaker 3: I'm thirty seven years old, so I feel like I 1244 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 3: have enough with them to say this. 1245 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm actually driving to Kroger to get our dried his 1246 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,080 Speaker 1: cream for my knuckles has nothing to do with the 1247 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 1: fact that I was punching walls after watching Dan Lanning 1248 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 1: not punch the ball. Make it all better, guys, make 1249 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,200 Speaker 1: it all better, Tyler in Wisconsin here. 1250 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,040 Speaker 4: Based on what I read, we're supposed. 1251 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 1: To be roasting something. I can just roast myself forever. 1252 01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:45,040 Speaker 5: Believing that this Badger team was anything more than an 1253 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 5: eight win team. 1254 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 1: Awful performance tonight, just a sampling Dan. I also roast 1255 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 1: my picks. Oh my god, it. 1256 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:56,320 Speaker 2: Was pretty bad. 1257 01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 1: It's been so bad. It's, you know, the most it's 1258 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 1: been so bad. It's been so bad. I don't know 1259 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 1: how to get back on track with these picks. I 1260 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 1: don't What did you do this week? What was your record? 1261 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 1: What well? I would have hit the wonder Dog parlay 1262 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,960 Speaker 1: if not for A and M. I hit the money 1263 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 1: line on Missooi. I hit the money line on Florida. 1264 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 1: But the A and M one is what threw that 1265 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:29,560 Speaker 1: parlay off. I had BYU, which got absolutely annihilated by TCU. 1266 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 1: I did have Oklahoma State Oklahoma State one. We didn't 1267 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 1: even mention that, but another win. Will talk talk more 1268 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 1: about that on the. 1269 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 2: That's good vibrations right Alan himself a game, Yeah, we'll. 1270 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 1: Talk more about Oklahoma State. I promise you in the 1271 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 1: coming weeks. H and I also had the SC game. 1272 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 1: Those are my three like big picks that I that 1273 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,840 Speaker 1: I threw out there, so one out of three and 1274 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,440 Speaker 1: I guess two out of three on the parlay. But 1275 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 1: still not where I need to be. I feel like 1276 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm starting to kind of come out of the fog. 1277 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 1: But it's okay, too long and I'm losing my patience. 1278 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear it, ty, I'm sorry here. By 1279 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 2: the way, just a couple of G five results. Fresno 1280 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,080 Speaker 2: State somehow managed to hang on, didn't play it especially well. 1281 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 2: Logan Fife got the start against Utah State. That was 1282 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,160 Speaker 2: a couple of nights ago. Air Force, by the way, 1283 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 2: is the clear class of the Mountain West, undefeated right now. 1284 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 2: They take down Wyoming. Boise State is winning in with 1285 01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,960 Speaker 2: like ten or eleven minutes left in that matchup. And 1286 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 2: in the MAC tie, there's two clear powers in Toledo 1287 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 2: in Miami of Ohio. And guess what they play next week? 1288 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:38,040 Speaker 1: Boom. 1289 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 2: That's given me good vibrations. 1290 01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,919 Speaker 1: Love it all right, Thank you to one and all 1291 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,040 Speaker 1: for downloading it all for do. 1292 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 2: You want any dudes? You want to dudes, dudes. Yes, 1293 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 2: we can do do the words very quickly. All right, 1294 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:56,200 Speaker 2: very quick. I've got quick dudes. By the way, Josh 1295 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,840 Speaker 2: Hoover for TCU threw for four hundred and thirty nine yards. 1296 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,240 Speaker 2: I knew that they were throwing like crazy. It almost 1297 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,920 Speaker 2: starts and ends with Elick Aomanor for Stanford going for 1298 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,120 Speaker 2: nearly three hundred yards through the air. Omari and Hampton 1299 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,040 Speaker 2: for North Carolina goes for almost two hundred yards. Ollie 1300 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 2: Gordon in an all purpose effort for Oklahoma State on 1301 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,800 Speaker 2: the ground and through the air, was very good in 1302 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 2: their win against Kansas, which was a really fun back 1303 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,960 Speaker 2: and forth. That was a Jason Bean Kansas game. I 1304 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 2: have the connection between Graham Mertz and Ricky Piersoll was 1305 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:30,160 Speaker 2: especially exciting and fun. Daniel Richardson, you'll remember transfer now 1306 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 2: he's at FAU they win against USF. He throws for 1307 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 2: a ton of yards. And the safety Cione Vaki for 1308 01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,480 Speaker 2: Utah just lining up at quarterback and running straight at 1309 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,360 Speaker 2: cal and having it work. Those are some dudes. 1310 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,880 Speaker 1: And Xavier Watts. Xavier Watts, so I mentioned earlier, for 1311 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,040 Speaker 1: Notre Dame, had a big game on the defensive side 1312 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,120 Speaker 1: of the ball. Those are dudes. For Week seven. Thank 1313 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 1: you for joining us around the campfire. If you enjoyed it, 1314 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,960 Speaker 1: hit subscribe, hit follow wherever it is that you find 1315 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 1: this podcast, go on out too verbalers dot com. That 1316 01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:05,000 Speaker 1: is our Patreon, that's where you could further invest yourself 1317 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:10,000 Speaker 1: as a member of the verbaler hood. Dan Rubinstein, I 1318 01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 1: hope this was cathartic for you. It was for me 1319 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:15,280 Speaker 1: it was. 1320 01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't make the organ game go any 1321 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 2: better in my head. I don't know if I'm gonna 1322 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,360 Speaker 2: be able to sleep any better that I was able 1323 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,280 Speaker 2: to get out some emotions. But I'm glad I got 1324 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:24,759 Speaker 2: to sit with you by the digital fire. 1325 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,599 Speaker 1: That was great and you as well for that guy there, 1326 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,599 Speaker 1: my good friend, Dan Rubenstein. For myself, Ty Hildebrant, thanks 1327 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,760 Speaker 1: again for downloading, for listening, for supporting the show. We'll 1328 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,880 Speaker 1: talk to y'all soon, please,