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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Play Travis buck Sexton Show Thursday edition.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 2: We have got a lot to hit with you today.

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Speaker 2: Let me give you a little roadmap of where we're headed.

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Speaker 2: At twelve thirty, we're going to be joined by Ryan

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Speaker 2: Gorman from our WFLA affiliate down in Tampa. I broadcast

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Speaker 2: from there a couple of weeks ago. We want to

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Speaker 2: get an update on exactly what happened with Adahlia, how

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Speaker 2: much major issues are out there. We want to make

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Speaker 2: sure we keep everyone apprized of what happened with that hurricane.

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Speaker 2: As continued aftermath cleanup has begun. Julie Kelly gonna join

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Speaker 2: us at one o'clock. She has been the best, I

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Speaker 2: would say, anywhere in the media at covering the January

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Speaker 2: sixth trials.

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Speaker 3: Where are we?

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Speaker 2: What does she think about the idea of a March

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Speaker 2: fourth trial date in Washington, d C. Next year for Trump?

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Speaker 2: And then at two Thirtyan Miller who now writes at OutKick.

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Speaker 2: I found him because he did such a fabulous job

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Speaker 2: attacking from a data and analytics perspective, the idea that

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Speaker 2: your kids should be wearing masks, the idea that masks

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Speaker 2: made sense anywhere. He continues to do phenomenal work. He

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Speaker 2: lives in La so he is on arguably the front

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Speaker 2: lines of the masking insanity. Still, we will discuss all

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Speaker 2: of that with him. That is where we are headed.

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Speaker 2: But there are several stories that are out there that

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Speaker 2: I think deserve to be examined in some way. Governor

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Speaker 2: Brian Kemp in Georgia, this is a mess buck, whether

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Speaker 2: you whether anybody wants to admit it or not, the

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Speaker 2: state of Georgia is a must win for Republicans.

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Speaker 3: It is a red state.

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Speaker 2: I still believe seven out of eight of the statewide

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Speaker 2: elections in twenty twenty two went to the Republican Party.

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Speaker 2: Herschel Walker lost a narrow election to the Reverend Rafael Warnock.

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Speaker 2: We saw Brian camp smoke Stacy Abrams. He wins by

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Speaker 2: seven and a half percentage points. That was the margin

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Speaker 2: of victory for most Republicans running statewide in Georgia.

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Speaker 3: It was not particularly close.

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Speaker 2: Right now, if you look at the betting odds, Republicans

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Speaker 2: are substantial underdogs to win the state of Georgia in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Regardless of who the nominee is, let

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Speaker 2: me start hitting the alarm bell here. We cannot win

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four election without winning Georgia. So you

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Speaker 2: can look at Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, you can look at

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Speaker 2: all those states and try to come up with math.

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Speaker 2: The Republicans are going to lose the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: election if Georgia is not back in the Red team camp,

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Speaker 2: and right now it would not be.

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Speaker 4: You see, Trump released I don't know how many videos

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Speaker 4: on truth Social yesterday. We have some of them to

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Speaker 4: share with the audience today. But he went on a

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Speaker 4: truth Social Trump video tirade. It was an avalanche of

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Speaker 4: Trump and one of them was a whole video about

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Speaker 4: how he won Georgia by so much and so clearly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not sure what the strategy is. I just

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Speaker 4: know that we're being told that he actually won Georgia

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is important, Buck, because that's not true. Okay,

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Speaker 2: everybody out there listening to us right now, Trump lost Georgia.

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Speaker 2: And if you don't believe Trump lost Georgia, what happened

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Speaker 2: that Suddenly in twenty twenty two, everybody wins. The congressional

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Speaker 2: candidates outperformed Trump. The Senate candidates, many of them outperformed

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Speaker 2: Trump before the re election. The runoff, Georgia is a

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Speaker 2: must win. And if your argument is I actually won

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, that makes it less likely that you

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Speaker 2: This is a must win state. This is the number

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Speaker 2: and it must be locked down if we're going to

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Speaker 4: Well, there's clearly a sensitivity in MAGA corridors about Georgia.

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Speaker 4: I mean Trump specifically. That's the one that I think

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Speaker 4: more than any other, has become an area of political

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Speaker 4: angst because it's not just the twenty twenty election. It's

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Speaker 4: three Senate seats now as well, three Senate seats that

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Speaker 4: or disagree with it. But the argument is herschel Walker

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Speaker 4: was a Trump back candidate who lost when everybody else won.

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Speaker 4: The two other candidates, what was it? A Purdue law

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Speaker 4: you can agree or disagree with this, but it's a mess. Okay,

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Speaker 4: it's a mess. We had three Senate seats that Republicans

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Speaker 4: if you're gonna say, well they cheated, put that aside

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Speaker 4: for a second. Don't really want to get into that

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Speaker 4: right in this moment in time. Well, then what's the

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Speaker 4: plan the next time around? I just want to I

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Speaker 4: want to go on the record right now. Anyone who

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Speaker 4: just tells you the next time around, whether it's a

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Speaker 4: Senate seat, a presidential election, or whatever, they cheated in

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Speaker 4: Georgia again, I'm gonna need them to show me what

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Speaker 4: they're doing to stop the cheating, or prove to me

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Speaker 4: what the cheating is and not just claim that this

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Speaker 4: is what happened there. Because we have it is a

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Speaker 4: it's a should win for Republicans as well. Right, this

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Speaker 4: isn't trying to pull something like Wisconsin the numbers are

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Speaker 4: tough for Republicans. Michigan, the numbers are tough for Republicans.

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Speaker 4: Georgia should be a win David Perdue. For people out

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Speaker 4: there who have forgotten about this.

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Speaker 2: In the twenty twenty election, David Perdue won by almost

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Speaker 2: two points. Now, this is a stupid law. My humble

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Speaker 2: opinion as always that Georgia has that you have to

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Speaker 2: get over fifty percent of the vote because Libertarians came

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Speaker 2: beat John Ossoff in the twenty twenty election by nearly

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Speaker 2: one hundred thousand votes, that's the Republican candidate. And then

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Speaker 2: in the runoff he ended up getting two hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty thousand less votes and lost a narrow vote to Osoff.

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Speaker 3: Who then won that seat.

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Speaker 2: And then on the other side, I'm pulling that up

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Speaker 2: Warnock is the one that ended up winning that winning

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Speaker 2: But if they didn't have that fifty percent line, every

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Speaker 2: other Republican candidate would have won. So Look, you can

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Speaker 2: live in many different parts of the country and not

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Speaker 2: pay attention to Georgia. This is a state I think

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Speaker 2: I know pretty well. I've spent a lot of time

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Speaker 2: down there. Trump's got issues in Georgia. And if you

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Speaker 2: listen to this show, you know that I have said,

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Speaker 2: if Trump were making the completely rational decision, he would

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Speaker 2: go to Brian Kemp, the governor of Georgia, and say,

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Speaker 2: you have.

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Speaker 3: Done a hell of a job. You kicked everybody's ass.

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Speaker 2: Remember Trump endorsed against him in the in the Republican primary,

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Speaker 2: and Brian Camp won by fifty points in the Republican

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Speaker 2: Let me repeat that for everybody out there. Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: waded in to the twenty twenty two Republican governor primary

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Speaker 2: and Brian Kemp beat Trump's preferred candidate. I think it

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Speaker 2: was Purdue by fifty points. Buck fifty points. Trump is

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Speaker 2: right now. If you look at the at the betting

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Speaker 2: markets and pay attention to them, Democrats are favored to

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Speaker 2: win in twenty twenty four in Georgia. This is a

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Speaker 2: state where there are major issues. If Republicans lose Georgia,

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Speaker 2: that's it, fat Lady Sung. There's almost no math that

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Speaker 2: you can win the twenty twenty four election if you

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Speaker 2: connected to other states, because if you lose Georgia, it

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Speaker 2: probably means that North Carolina is going to be close.

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Speaker 2: It probably means that Arizona is gonna we know, gonna

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Speaker 2: be super close. But the math doesn't add up. You're

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Speaker 2: not gonna win in the Midwest and lose Georgia. It

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Speaker 2: just I would be stunned beyond belief. You can flag

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Speaker 2: ends up happening, so people can call in and say

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Speaker 2: you were one hundred percent wrong, and I'll own it.

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Speaker 3: I don't see any.

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Speaker 2: Pathway where you lose Georgia, win in the Midwest and

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Speaker 2: the math adds up to win the twenty twenty four election.

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Speaker 4: So this is a big mess for Republicans. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you look at the numbers. Herschel Walker got one point.

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Speaker 3: Nine million votes in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 4: Warnock got one point nine four to six, so one

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Speaker 4: by about forty thousand votes, give or take. But Kemp

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Speaker 4: got two point one million votes, and you look at

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Speaker 4: the margin. He won comfortably against Stacy Abrams. Now I

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Speaker 4: understand there's an inclination to say, oh, but that's because

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Speaker 4: Stacy Abrams was so bad.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I don't believe that.

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Speaker 4: It's likely that the way the tickets split here was

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Speaker 4: that there are all these people who just decided they

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Speaker 4: were plenty of Republicans who could have turned out and

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Speaker 4: voted for him. We should have won that Senate seed. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's the bottom line. We should have won the Senen

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Speaker 4: I think this is why there's such a sensitivity around

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Speaker 4: what happened, look at the elections, look at everything else.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, show me exactly what the thing is

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Speaker 4: that's going to be different this time around, Because if

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Speaker 4: the claim is that there were some malfeasans, fine, show

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Speaker 4: me the malfeasance and tell me how we're going to

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Speaker 4: what the malfeasance is. That's a problem everybody, right, it's

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Speaker 4: is if we're going to fix it, or if it's

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Speaker 4: a couple of things. But we have to agree on

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Speaker 4: whatever it may be, and whether that's an election strategy issue,

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Speaker 4: a messaging issue, a something with the machine means, something

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Speaker 4: with the registration, something with whatever. We got to know

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Speaker 4: what it is. We can't just all assume that it

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Speaker 4: was there were some mouthfeasans.

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Speaker 3: That we all we all know there was.

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Speaker 4: It was a problem. I mean, I saw the Trump video.

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Speaker 4: Trump says he won by a lot. Yeah, that's the claim.

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Speaker 4: That's as it yesterday. I would just ask someone tell

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Speaker 4: me how we won by a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two, every Republican Bud Herschel won by

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Speaker 2: seven and a half or eight points. Those are that's

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Speaker 2: winning by a lot. Brian Kemp won by a lot.

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Speaker 2: What changed? And I do think Georgia, by the way,

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Speaker 2: I think Kemp deserves credit for this. Georgia has strengthened

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Speaker 2: their overall voting parameters.

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Speaker 3: I think twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Two in Georgia was the safest and most secure election

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Speaker 2: a long time, that Democrats stretched and had a rigged

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Speaker 2: election in many ways in twenty twenty. Okay, my point

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Speaker 2: on that is every other Republicans still won in Georgia

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. I just hit you with the numbers

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Speaker 2: on Perdue one in the get and again, they have

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Speaker 2: the rule that you have to get over fifty percent

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Speaker 2: That's why they've had the runoffs. But Purdue won by

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Speaker 3: Julie, thanks for being here.

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Speaker 5: Hey guys, So I just left at ec Federal Courthouse

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Speaker 4: Julie, Julie, can you just I'm sorry, I just how

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Speaker 5: Well, because the people I think who originally created terrorism

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Speaker 2: All right, Julie, you've been covering this, and give your

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Speaker 5: Thanks so much so my Twitter is Julie Underscore Kelly two.

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Speaker 5: I'm a true social also Julie Underscore Kelly. My substack,

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Speaker 2: Again, you've done a fabulous job covering all of this,

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Speaker 2: You've predicted with us for years now on this show

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Speaker 4: I mean I thought along the judge that she was

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Speaker 5: three conspiracy charges and you go from there. There's real

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Speaker 5: pitfalls to that though. The obstruction count is now pending

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Speaker 5: before the Supreme Court. And if the Supreme Court decides

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Speaker 5: to take up the obstruction count and the conspiracy to

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Speaker 5: obstruct that DJ the Jacksmith charge Donald Trump with, if

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Speaker 5: they take that up the the end of October, I

442
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Speaker 5: think you're going to have to see some recalculation, recalibration

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Speaker 5: from Special Council Jack Smith. Those counts are not a

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Speaker 5: sure thing. So that's why I still think that they

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Speaker 5: might add counts that if he does go to trial.

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Speaker 5: To say, he does go to trial in March, you

447
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Speaker 5: get a quick conviction right a month later. Then his

448
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Speaker 5: sentencing hearing is say three months out from there, during

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Speaker 5: the summer of twenty twenty four. You can't appeal until

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Speaker 5: a sentence is handed down, So there's no way really

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Speaker 5: to appeal his conviction until your sentence. That's the usual

452
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Speaker 5: way how it goes in federal court. Now, there can

453
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Speaker 5: be some other appeal, you know, certainly motions that his

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Speaker 5: defense team are planning to file, not the least of

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Speaker 5: which is selective prosecution and move to dismiss these counts.

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Speaker 5: But it doesn't, you know, not something time of truck

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Speaker 5: him on our own, it's going to entertain So Yes,

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Speaker 5: if you're asking if it's feasible that this could go

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Speaker 5: to trial and he could be sentenced and I'm taken

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Speaker 5: into custody before November twenty twenty four with this case, Yes,

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Speaker 5: if they don't, that's.

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Speaker 3: The question I wanted to ask you, Julie.

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Speaker 2: You've been there for so for people out there who

464
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Speaker 2: aren't aware there would be a trial.

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Speaker 3: Let's say the trial.

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Speaker 2: Let's pretend that the government gets exactly what they want

467
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Speaker 2: now basically, which is this trial starts March fourth. Let's

468
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Speaker 2: say that it takes two months, which is I don't

469
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Speaker 2: think crazy to think it might take two months. And

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Speaker 2: let's say sometime in May a jury that is not

471
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Speaker 2: as you have pointed out, Julie Kelly, of Donald Trump's peers,

472
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Speaker 2: it's a ninety five percent or whatever it is, DC

473
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Speaker 2: jury that's likely to convict Trump on everything because they

474
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Speaker 2: are died in the world Democrat activists, right, So then

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Speaker 2: they come back. Let's say that the conviction happens in May.

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Speaker 2: To your point, they come back and let's say it's

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Speaker 2: August and they enter in the official sentence. Have you

478
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Speaker 2: seen everybody taken out in handcuffs at that point. I'm

479
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Speaker 2: not familiar with what happens at the sentencing hearings, Like

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Speaker 2: would would they then theoretically take Trump and try to

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Speaker 2: put him in prison in August or you know, September

482
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Speaker 2: or something, a couple of months before an actual election

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Speaker 2: with him as potentially the Republican nominee. I'm just trying

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Speaker 2: to play this out in the event that had happened,

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Speaker 2: based on what you have seen of these jan six

486
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Speaker 2: cases so far.

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Speaker 5: They could ask the judge at that point when he

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Speaker 5: is sentenced, to immediately take Donald Trump into custody. They

489
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Speaker 5: could DJ and Jackson mess office definitely could ask for that.

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Speaker 5: I've seen that done. It just happened this week with

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Speaker 5: the conviction of five pro lifers who are convicted by

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Speaker 5: a DC Street of violating the Space Act, and the

493
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Speaker 5: Clinton appointed judge took remanded them into immediate custody before

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Speaker 5: they as they were sentenced. So yes, that could possibly

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Speaker 5: happen again. I wouldn't put anything past check.

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Speaker 4: That is just they could give am all confinement too,

497
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Speaker 4: just to point that that's also a possibility, I believe.

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Speaker 3: So that was just.

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Speaker 2: Crazy to think because I mean, the Secret Service would

500
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Speaker 2: theoretically have to accompany Trump into any custody, right because they.

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Speaker 4: Would shut down, they would shut down probably part of

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Speaker 4: a facility. And this is it sounds insane as we're

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Speaker 4: talking about this, but I think they'd have to shut

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Speaker 4: down a part of a facility and they would have

505
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Speaker 4: to do perimeter security while he was in a cell.

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Speaker 3: But right, I mean, this is insane.

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Speaker 5: The Secret Service. I think they have a comedy who

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Speaker 5: Secret Service agents agents as well? So yes, but I

509
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Speaker 5: mean we're so far past, we have so crossed the

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Speaker 5: rubicon here that anyone who thinks that that's too absurd,

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Speaker 5: too outland, just too unrealistic. Take it from me, after

512
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Speaker 5: watching these judges in line, prosecutors in action, there is

513
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Speaker 5: nothing they won't do to punish Donald Trump's supporters and

514
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Speaker 5: ultimately get at the big prize, which is Donald Trump himself.

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Speaker 4: Julie Kelly, everybody declassified on substack, subscribe to it.

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Speaker 3: Julie.

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Speaker 4: As always, thank you for the work you do. We'll

518
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Speaker 4: be talking to you again soon.

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Speaker 5: Thanks guys, appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Remember the scene in Goodfellas where he's like, whise, guys

521
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Speaker 4: do prison different and he's like slicing up the garlic

522
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Speaker 4: really thin so we can put it in the sauce,

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Speaker 4: and they had to be a little bit like that.

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Speaker 3: We got to talk more about this because I just

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Speaker 3: don't crazy.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think anybody has really thought through. I

527
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Speaker 2: wish I could curse on the air right now, because

528
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: there's so many different curse words to sum this up.

529
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Speaker 2: But it is so bonkers to even think about what

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Speaker 2: is currently taking place that I don't think anybody has

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Speaker 2: even played it out in their head.

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Speaker 4: Given that these are entirely Trump is facing entirely non

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Speaker 4: obviously nonviolent crimes, and he's he would be a first

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Speaker 4: time offender, certainly after the first conviction, I think, under

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Speaker 4: the federal guidelines, and given his age, and not even

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Speaker 4: taking into account the fact that he's the former president

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Speaker 4: could be the future president, a basically a home confinement

538
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Speaker 4: sentence could be very which would wouldn't that be interesting?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: Basically grounding him in mar A Lago during the campaign

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Speaker 4: as a matter of law and saying this is what

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Speaker 1: Truth after truth, you can handle the truth. Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in now number three. Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. As we

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Speaker 2: roll through the Thursday edition of the program, we're gonna

566
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Speaker 2: be joined by Ian Miller, one of the best at

567
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Speaker 2: analyzing why all of this masking BS was filled with

568
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Speaker 2: so many lies. He now writes at OutKick, but I

569
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Speaker 2: found him online as one of the few truth tellers

570
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Speaker 2: during the COVID lockdowns and everything else there is now

571
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Speaker 2: And I think we're gonna be joined by Alex Barnson tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: Right Buck, there is now increasing movement to try to

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Speaker 2: bring back some of the COVID restrictions. And also, according

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Speaker 2: to Alex Berenson, who I will point out has been

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Speaker 2: months ahead of the general consensus when it comes to

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Speaker 2: analyzing data. Alex Berenson says, there's very alarming data about

577
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Speaker 2: what the COVID shot did for young children who got it.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about that with him tomorrow, and again

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk with Ian Miller at the bottom

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Speaker 2: of this hour. But Buck, a couple of different stories

581
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Speaker 2: that are out there that we still haven't dove into fully.

582
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Speaker 2: One absolute attack on the Veke Ramaswami on the editorial

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Speaker 2: page of The Wall Street Journal, Today by Carl Rove,

584
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Speaker 2: the Veke Ramaswamy performance artist, and we can get into

585
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Speaker 2: some of those attacks and why Vivek is getting attacked

586
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Speaker 2: as he is, but also our good friend Keith Oberman,

587
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Speaker 2: who is an imbecile of the left. Even for left wingers,

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Speaker 2: I think some of them are like, man, this Oberman

589
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Speaker 2: guy's completely lost his marbles.

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Speaker 4: He often as you look at his Twitter, it looks

591
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Speaker 4: like he needs a wellness check on a regular basis,

592
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Speaker 4: Like someone has to go check up on him and

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Speaker 4: see how he's doing or something, you know, in a

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Speaker 4: position of authority, because he's completely completely lost his marbles.

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Speaker 2: So he tweeted, I saw this late last night as

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Speaker 2: I was getting ready for bed.

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Speaker 4: He loves you, by the way, I don't know. I

598
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Speaker 4: think he loves you even more than he loves me.

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Speaker 4: He loves you.

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Speaker 3: Oberman comes has, He tweeted back, It's hard for me.

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Speaker 4: To keep back at me back in the day A

602
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Speaker 4: little bit. Yeah, but nothing he comes after me.

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Speaker 3: He used to be. Let me just say this.

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Speaker 2: I used to eat my breakfast every morning, buck, I'd

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Speaker 2: eat my cereals, I'd eat my eggo waffles, and I

606
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Speaker 2: would be sitting there watching Sports Center back in the

607
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Speaker 2: day with he and Dan Patrick. They had one of

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Speaker 2: the best sports shows maybe ever. Everybody watched that Sports

609
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Speaker 2: Center show. He was funny, He and Dan Patrick were great.

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Speaker 2: He's truly insane now, and he tweeted at our friend

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Speaker 2: Riley Gaines, who has been fighting for just let's make

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Speaker 2: clear here, fighting for women's sports to be made up

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Speaker 2: of women, which I can't believe this is actually a battleground.

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Speaker 3: Crazy that this is going on these days.

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Speaker 2: She swam against Will Thomas, who changed his name to

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Speaker 2: Leah Thomas and decided that he was a chick and

617
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Speaker 2: became an NC doublea champion swimmer. This all happened, and

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Speaker 2: she did not choose to swim against him. She would

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Speaker 2: otherwise be right now in veterinary, sorry, dental school. Keith

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Speaker 2: Overman tweeted to her, Can you just address the reality

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Speaker 2: and move past it? You sucked at swimming, That's why

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Speaker 2: you lost. Now, Riley Gaines is an n C doublea

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Speaker 2: champion record holder in different aspects of swimming. And this

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Speaker 2: is now what the left orthodoxy requires.

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Speaker 3: Keith Obermon, what is he like?

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Speaker 2: Sixty sixty year old leftist Keith Oberman is now picking

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Speaker 2: fights with Riley Gaines because she is fighting for women's

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Speaker 2: sports to be made up of women, and he's picking

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Speaker 2: a fight with her by saying you a scholarship swimmer,

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Speaker 2: meaning she's super talented, one of the best swimmers in

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Speaker 2: all of college athletics. That she sucked and that's why

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Speaker 2: she lost to a dude. By the way, she tied

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Speaker 2: a dude. But this is where Keith Oberman is, and

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Speaker 2: this is where a lot of leftists are that you

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Speaker 2: would be now attacking female athletes for saying, hey, we

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Speaker 2: just want athletics to be made up of women.

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Speaker 4: It's actually understandable from their position because ad hominem is

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Speaker 4: all they have attacking individuals who speak the truth about

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Speaker 4: this because the argument that the Olberman and the left

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Speaker 4: in general make on the issue of gender and sports

641
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Speaker 4: is so weak. I mean, never mind the fact that

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Speaker 4: Riley could turn around and be like, Heith looks like

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Speaker 4: he might have a problem with a rigorous like water

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Speaker 4: aerobics class or something. I mean, he is not a

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Speaker 4: specimen himself. But to go after, yeah, to go after

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Speaker 4: for a guy who's to comment on sports. It doesn't

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Speaker 4: look like Keith Oliver ever played any sports. But you

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Speaker 4: look at this and you understand, I think very quickly,

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Speaker 4: there's no there's no way for them to make the

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Speaker 4: case that they know the left demands they make, so

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Speaker 4: attacking people who speak the truth is the only option

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Speaker 4: that remains open to them. So it's not surprising. And

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Speaker 4: this is also why you see the arguments in favor

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Speaker 4: of women competing in men sorry, men competing in women's

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Speaker 4: It's never the other thing, like if a woman really

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Speaker 4: wants to try out for the NFL because she's decided

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Speaker 4: she's a.

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Speaker 3: Guy, now, good luck with that one.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't think we're gonna see a lot

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Speaker 4: of a lot of cornerbacks or a defensive lineman who

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Speaker 4: formerly or still actually have XX chromosome. And you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't think you're gonna see that anytime. So when

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Speaker 4: you see the way they always argue about this stuff,

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Speaker 4: it's a version of they attack the person who's saying

665
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Speaker 4: the things that are true that they don't like, or

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Speaker 4: they turn it into why are you so focused on this?

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Speaker 4: That's the other one, you know, why does this? Why

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Speaker 4: does this bother you so much? Right, which to me

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Speaker 4: is a little bit of a reminder of I was

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Speaker 4: on a plane recently and someone was really like it

671
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Speaker 4: was a full grown man who had an extra seat

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Speaker 4: next to him, and he kept trying to sleep, like

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Speaker 4: curl up in a fetal position, and he would fall

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Speaker 4: and like kick my seat to the point where a

675
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Speaker 4: couple of times and I could tell this woman kind

676
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Speaker 4: of gave me this look at one boot because I

677
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Speaker 4: kept looking back at him, and it's like I was

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Speaker 4: just waiting for to.

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Speaker 3: Do the like, is it really that big a deal?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Actually, yes it is.

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Speaker 7: And the same thing is true of transgender ideology in sports.

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Speaker 7: Is it that big a deal that you're going to

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Speaker 7: steal a gold metal from somebody who's been in a

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Speaker 7: swimming pool working as hard as she can from age four?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big deal, and it's happening everywhere, and

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00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 2: for everybody out there who dismisses it, it's amazing how

688
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: often it ends up happening in your school district or

689
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Speaker 2: in your kid's high school, and it's going to happen increasingly.

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Speaker 2: And this is what happens if you deign to speak

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Speaker 2: truth to them. And this is why so many athletes

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Speaker 2: are afraid, is because they're going to be the target.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I think Riley's story is so compelling.

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Speaker 2: The only reason she's doing this is because of the

695
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: choice Leah Thomas made, so Riley could suck it up

696
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: and say nothing, and she could have gone on to

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Speaker 2: dental school and she likely would have been a fabulous dentist.

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Speaker 2: I know Riley a little bit, which she's doing a

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Speaker 2: podcast without Kick.

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Speaker 3: She was on our show Sunday Night.

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Speaker 2: And think about where we are that the party that

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Speaker 2: claims that it cares about women is now very comfortable

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Speaker 2: with guys like Keith Olberman taking random attacks at Riley

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Speaker 2: Gaines and saying you suck as a swimmer when she's

705
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Speaker 2: one of the best at swimming in all of women's

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Speaker 2: college athletics.

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Speaker 4: Well, right, it's not even like she failed to qualify

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Speaker 4: for the meat or which still she could be an

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Speaker 4: exceptional swimmer. It's not even like she was D three

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Speaker 4: and couldn't swim D one. She's pretty much the best

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Speaker 4: in her event in the actually was the best in

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Speaker 4: her event in the country as a woman. But it's

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Speaker 4: a stupid argument from a man who doesn't feel the

714
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Speaker 4: need to put any intellect into what he does anymore.

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Speaker 4: It's all just vile. It's just venting spleen while he's,

716
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Speaker 4: you know, doing whatever Keith Olberman does these days. Not

717
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 4: a nice guy, by the way, very bad reputation even

718
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Speaker 4: among lives in the media.

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Speaker 2: This is, by the way, to Riley's point, exactly how

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Speaker 2: good she was, apparently holding the Southeastern Conference record and

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Speaker 2: being one of the fastest Americans of all time in

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Speaker 2: the two hundred.

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Speaker 3: Butterfly is amateur. This is what she tweeted to me

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Speaker 3: last night.

725
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Speaker 2: I broke that record taking a shot at me here

726
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Speaker 2: at that obnoxiously orange school you happen to like.

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Speaker 3: She went to the University of Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: I'm a University of Tennessee fan, so she is taking

729
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Speaker 2: a shot at my school there in a funny way.

730
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Speaker 2: She broke the record there. But she literally is one

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Speaker 2: of the best swimmers who has ever existed in the

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Speaker 2: Southeastern Conference, which is I think humbly the best sports

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Speaker 2: conference in America. Now you think that that talking about

734
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Speaker 2: Georgia was controversial, I'm gonna get tellusied. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I'm getting tagged for you saying that you were both

736
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Speaker 2: an Alabama and an Auburn fan in our one and

737
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Speaker 2: people are fed up with your attempt to be a

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Speaker 2: more eagle and a role type fan simultaneously.

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Speaker 4: I try to bring the sides together, Georgia. I'm trying

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Speaker 4: to keep everybody on the team here.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting it up for you, trying to claim that

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Speaker 2: you can take both sides of one of the most

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Speaker 2: intense rivalries in all of sports. This is like being

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Speaker 2: a Red Sox and a Yankees fan simultaneously, which Barack

745
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Speaker 2: Obama probably paid a promise to be at some point

746
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Speaker 2: in time, because it sounds like something he would have said.

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Speaker 2: But this, uh, this also ties in do we have

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Speaker 2: to tell you what do we got? I want to

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Speaker 2: I want to set the table for this, tu Buck,

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Speaker 2: because you read this article too, because I mentioned it.

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Speaker 3: I mean the vague thing that that.

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Speaker 4: Look Karl Rove is for many I think the quintessential

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Speaker 4: representation of establishment republican political consultant.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I would ask anyone who would be the other name

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Speaker 4: that you would put up against him as the quintessential

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Speaker 4: GOP establishment machine guy and men. Did he go after

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Speaker 4: Avake Rymes? He went after a vic so much that

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Speaker 4: I think it will do nothing but probably help.

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Speaker 2: They'll talk about this in a moment, but I want

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Speaker 2: you to out there to listen to me. Read the

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Speaker 2: opening paragraph here. This is what Karl Rove in today's

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Speaker 2: editorial page of The Wall Street Journal says about vivey

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Speaker 2: Rama Swami. A particularly low point of last week's GOP

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Speaker 2: presidential debate came at around the thirty nine minute mark.

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Speaker 2: And here get ready, when an unusually glib, shallow, overbearing,

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Speaker 2: smooth talking biotech entrepreneur proclaimed himself quote the only person

768
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Speaker 2: on the stage who isn't bought and paid for. That's

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Speaker 2: when most Americans and most Republicans got their first real

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Speaker 2: look at the vay Rama Swami. Glib, shallow, overbearing, smooth talking.

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Speaker 3: Shots.

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Speaker 2: The whole column is an attack on the vike Arrama Swami.

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Speaker 2: Why what is the impact?

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Speaker 3: Buck?

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Speaker 2: And I will discuss that with you when we come

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Speaker 2: back in a couple of moments. But first I want

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Speaker 2: to tell you all about my friends at Tunnel Towers.

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Speaker 2: Clay buck Sexton, We walk back in Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 2: Sexton show a couple of things. Trump pled not guilty,

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Speaker 2: waved his right to appear at his arraignment in Georgia.

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Speaker 2: As we have talked a great deal about the situation

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Speaker 2: in Georgia, so that story is out there. Also, I

802
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Speaker 2: want to hit this as we get ready for Ian Miller.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday we discussed Mitch McConnell freezing again during a event

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Speaker 2: in the state of Kentucky. The physician Brian Monaghan of

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Speaker 2: the Capital just put out this statement, I have consulted

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Speaker 2: with Leader McConnell and conferred with his neurology team after

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Speaker 2: evaluating yesterday's incident. I have informed Leader McConnell he is

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Speaker 2: medically clear to continue with his schedule as planned. Occasional

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Speaker 2: lightheadedness is not uncommon in concussion recovery and can also

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Speaker 2: be expected as a result of dehydration. And again, Brian Monaghan,

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Speaker 2: who is a Capital physician, giving a clean bill of

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Speaker 2: health to eighty one year old Mitch McConnell. We bring

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Speaker 2: in now, which I think many of you out there

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Speaker 2: question based on the videos that you and we have

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Speaker 2: all seen. But we bring in now Ian Miller, who

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Speaker 2: has done fabulous work at ian MSc on Twitter. He's

817
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Speaker 2: been putting out graphs for years now analyzing masking and

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Speaker 2: how ineffective it is.

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Speaker 3: He writes at OutKick Now.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say Ian's mask graphics when I was

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Speaker 4: doing five hours of radio a day by myself in

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Speaker 4: my apartment under lockdown in New York City, raging about

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Speaker 4: the stupidity of masks. Ian, your graphs kept me safe

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Speaker 4: and warm.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad to know. Glad you know they were so helpful.

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Speaker 2: I would have gone crazy if I had to live

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Speaker 2: like Buck was living in New York City. I'm not

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Speaker 2: I really legitimately think I would have gone crazy. Glad

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Speaker 2: I lived in a red state.

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Speaker 3: You live.

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Speaker 2: I believe in LA correct or the LA area. What's

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Speaker 2: going to happen with masking? You went through this, You've

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Speaker 2: written about it, data analyzed it. Where is this all headed?

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Speaker 2: As tomorrow we officially enter into September, and everybody out

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Speaker 2: there knows COVID and flu season every year happens in

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Speaker 2: the fall winter as people spend more time indoors. So

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Speaker 2: this certainly with COVID and everything else, is bound to increase.

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Speaker 2: What's going to happen in your mind?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think a lot of us were really worried

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Speaker 6: about what was going to happen down the road. After

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Speaker 6: experts and to CDC and pouch, you and those other

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Speaker 6: politicians kind of committed to saying that masks were effective

844
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Speaker 6: against respiratory viruses despite overwhelming evidence and all the graphs

845
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Speaker 6: that I've done, but there's a lot of other work

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00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 6: out there that that's proved this over time, including by

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Speaker 6: the CDC and World Health Organization. But once they committed

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Speaker 6: down that path, there was no way for them to

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Speaker 6: get out of it. And we're seeing it now where

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Speaker 6: you have the media and you have these expert organizations

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Speaker 6: and saying, oh, we need to bring back masks. There's

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Speaker 6: a new COVID variant as we get into respiratory virus

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Speaker 6: season in the winter, as this cases go up. I'm

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Speaker 6: very worried in La you know, just one quick example,

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Speaker 6: the Lionsgate story, where is this major Hollywood studio of

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Speaker 6: reinstated mask mandates. They came out and put out a

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Speaker 6: statement saying that they didn't do it. La County Public

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Speaker 6: Health told them they had to because there was an

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Speaker 6: outbreak of COVID cases. So La County Public Health is

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Speaker 6: already doing this that individual businesses. You know, how much

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Speaker 6: worse is it going to get? As you know COVID

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Speaker 6: numbers probably increase here into the fall in the winter.

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Speaker 6: I'm very concerned that we might see some of these

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Speaker 6: policies come back to some extent.

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Speaker 4: Well, do we have some gold standard real studies specifically

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Speaker 4: that I've been done in let's say the last six

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Speaker 4: to twelve months, that just show people what they should

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Speaker 4: have known all along. But you know, for the left,

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Speaker 4: this is a religious belief now, I mean, masking is

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Speaker 4: a religious belief.

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Speaker 3: But do we have anything in you point.

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Speaker 4: People too, that just says, go look at the such

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Speaker 4: and such study this stuff masking does not work really

874
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 4: at all. I mean, it's statistically effectively zero.

875
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Speaker 6: Right. Yeah. There's the Cochrane Library, which is kind of

876
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 6: considered to be the gold standard of earned evidence reviews,

877
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 6: where they take they just take the highest quality evidence.

878
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 6: Usually it's randomized control trials. They examine what the data shows,

879
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 6: and then they release a conclusion. They did this I

880
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 6: want to say, maybe six months ago or so on

881
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 6: masking to stop the respiratory viruses, and they found that

882
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 6: all the available high quality evidence showed that they did

883
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 6: not stop respiratory virus transmission. I mean that should have

884
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 6: been There's been twenty five times where it should have

885
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 6: been the end of masks permanently. But if anything was

886
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 6: going to do it for all these people that claim

887
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 6: to be following the science and following the evidence that

888
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 6: should have been it it should have been over. But

889
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 6: it can never be over because it's not really actually

890
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 6: about the science and the evidence, right, It's about doing

891
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 6: whatever is politically expeding at the time. But there is

892
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 6: this Cockran Library review. I wrote about it for ou Pick.

893
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 6: I've mentioned it in the books and other work I've done.

894
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 6: It's we've known this for a while. They did this

895
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 6: review at twenty twelve. I mean, it's the same thing.

896
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 6: Nothing has changed, that's never worked, and there's no evidence

897
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 6: that's changed that over the last couple of years.

898
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Speaker 3: Ian.

899
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: What we saw happen a lot over the last several

900
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: years is there was almost a race for everybody to

901
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: reinstitute mandates.

902
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 3: Right.

903
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 2: It was like a left wing race, and so you

904
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: would see a city like Philadelphia, or a city like Washington,

905
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: d C. Or LA or New York City, a place

906
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: that is only run by left wing politicians, one of

907
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: them makes that decision, and then you would see everybody

908
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: else rush to follow. LA has been one of those

909
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: cities in the past. I know we're just sitting here

910
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: on August thirty first, but do you think a city

911
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: will reinstitute a mask mandate?

912
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 3: Will they try and if they do, will it work? Right?

913
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 6: I think that's I mean, that's the question lem wondering.

914
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 6: I would say, if there is a city that's going

915
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 6: to do it, LA would probably be the one. You know,

916
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 6: last summer, they tried to do it in July, just

917
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 6: over a small increase in COVID cases, and there was

918
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 6: a mense pushback and they kind of backed down. But

919
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 6: you know, they were sending out guidelines preparing agencies to

920
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 6: enforce another mask mandate. I don't see why that would change. Now.

921
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 2: It's do you yeah, that's important you live in LA.

922
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: Do you think enough people in the LA area, certainly

923
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 2: in Orange County. I think it's happened for people who

924
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 2: don't know LA.

925
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 3: Well.

926
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: Orange County to the south tends to vote more Republicans

927
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: certainly than LA County. But do you think enough people

928
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 2: in LA have finally gotten and realized that masking doesn't work?

929
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: Or do you think they would just meekly acquiesque and

930
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: mask would sprout up everywhere all over again.

931
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 6: I think that there's still enough people that would comply

932
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 6: with it that it would be it would be followed

933
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 6: here in LA. I think that the you know, we

934
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 6: saw that, I thought it would have been over long

935
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 6: ago that people would stop complying, but there really isn't

936
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 6: an end to compliance. If there is a mandate in place,

937
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 6: people will follow it. I do think the percentage of

938
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 6: people who don't want to mask anymore or who have

939
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 6: admitted that it doesn't work has grown over time, even

940
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 6: in places like La and seeing San Francisco, but it's

941
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 6: still too high among the left because they can't admit

942
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 6: that they were wrong. You know, they don't want to

943
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 6: acknowledge that they made these mistakes and that they forty

944
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 6: figures that they followed misled them for two or three years.

945
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 6: You know, that's that's not an acceptable solution for them.

946
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 6: So I'm worried that there are still enough people that

947
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 6: it would be followed, It would be enforced across it

948
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 6: across places like La. Yeah, I guess at Orange County,

949
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 6: San Diego, not necessarily, but La, San Francisco, those kinds

950
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 6: of cities. I could definitely see it coming back, And

951
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 6: even if it's not a general mandate, you know, it

952
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 6: could go back into healthcare settings or on public transit,

953
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 6: which is limited but still bad enough, and really, you know,

954
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 6: hurts a lot of people even in those fields. So

955
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 6: I'm definitely worried about that.

956
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 4: And if you decide to triple mask in response to

957
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 4: LA's possible mask mandate, will you promise this You'll take

958
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 4: video of you walking around telling Los Angelinos who only

959
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 4: have one or perhaps two masks, that they're upsetting you.

960
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 4: You're literally shaking right now because they don't take the

961
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 4: virus seriously.

962
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 6: I love that idea. I think it's a great comedian

963
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 6: that a man on the streets, it's be walking around

964
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 6: with three masks. They're double duct tapes in my faith,

965
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 6: telling people that they're they're not doing enough to start.

966
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 3: I guarantee you.

967
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 4: If you walked around, and this will be true in

968
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 4: New York as well, if you walked around with a

969
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 4: cloth mask with an N ninety five on top and

970
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 4: a cloth mask on top of that, and you went

971
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 4: up to people and said, in those places, this is

972
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 4: the safest way to be, you would convince people to

973
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 4: triple mask. I promise you, there's no doubt. I would

974
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 4: put money on.

975
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,959
Speaker 6: This one hundred percent believe that it's it's really become

976
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 6: a like you said, it's become a religion. It's it's

977
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 6: very frustrating to see it.

978
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 4: Go check out ian's work at OutKick dot com. Clay

979
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 4: has one more thing for you. Yeah, one quick question,

980
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 4: maybe the most important so far.

981
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 3: You're in LA.

982
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 2: You're a big Dodgers fan. Are you willing to acknowledge

983
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: that the Atlanta Braves are the best and most superior

984
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: team in all of baseball this year?

985
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 6: I won't acknowledge it on the record, but often record,

986
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 6: maybe we'll have that. Commerce is no data that Brads

987
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 6: are incredible this year. The offense is as like one

988
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 6: of the best I've ever seen. I really, I've been

989
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 6: already talking about avoiding them in the playoffs that we

990
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 6: get that far. So hopefully, hopefully they can get out

991
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 6: in the n olts. We don't have to worry about it.

992
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 4: I in go check out his work at OutKick dot com.

993
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 4: Thanks so much for being with us.

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