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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my

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Speaker 1: trusted colleague Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from

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Speaker 1: our studio at lambeau Field, and we's a very interesting

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Speaker 1: week here at twelve S. Lombardi Avenue. The Packers coming

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Speaker 1: off of a disheartening two loss to the Minnesota Vikings,

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Speaker 1: but no time to dwell on their sorrows because they

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Speaker 1: have to hop on a plane very shortly to go

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night football. This is a really interesting week around

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Speaker 1: here because I think obviously the Packers were hoping to

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Speaker 1: be heading to San Francisco with just the one loss

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Speaker 1: on their ledger. Now you're in danger of actually picking

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Speaker 1: up a third loss prior to the midway point of

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Speaker 1: the season. With this being game number eight. This is

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Speaker 1: a tough one because underneath Matt la Fleur, up until Sunday,

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Speaker 1: they only had lost one game by a touchdown or

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Speaker 1: inside a touchdown, And I think, if everybody's just being

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Speaker 1: honest with themselves, this was a game that Green Bay

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Speaker 1: just shouldn't have lost. I mean, it's just the way

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Speaker 1: that they finished it two in the fourth quarter that

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Speaker 1: that was more I think indicative of the team that

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Speaker 1: this is um. They're more consistent moving the ball. Offensively,

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Speaker 1: they had some guys while they didn't have al Lazar,

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Speaker 1: they did have some guys step up. Davante Adams caught

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Speaker 1: his third touchdown and the defense got too late stops.

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Speaker 1: But the problem was everything that happened in that second

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Speaker 1: and third quarter again for green Bay, and that's really

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Speaker 1: told the tale of this game Minnesota. Mike. It's a

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Speaker 1: lot like what you and I talked about last week.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot like Larry McCarn right over there on

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Speaker 1: our three Things video last Wednesday mentioned defensively, the Vikings

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Speaker 1: just don't have a ton of playmakers right now, whether

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Speaker 1: it be through injuries or just you know, decisions and

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Speaker 1: trades that they've made. And I gotta give a credit

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Speaker 1: to Mike Zimmer. He still made all the ends meet

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Speaker 1: and in this matchup, after the first quarter that was

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Speaker 1: largely dictated by green Bay, the momentum started to swing

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Speaker 1: a little bit towards Minnesota at the end of the

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Speaker 1: first half, and in the third quarter they took the

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Speaker 1: ball and Dalvin Cook ran away with it. Yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, football is a team game, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to minimize that, but it feels like the Green

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Speaker 1: Bay Packers got beat by one player. They got beat

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Speaker 1: by Dalvin Cook. On Sunday. He scores all four of

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Speaker 1: Minnesota's touchdowns, the Vikings getting touchdowns on on their first

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Speaker 1: four possessions of the game. He scores all four of them.

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Speaker 1: He has two six yards from scrimmage, a hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty three rushing, sixty three receiving, including a fifty yard

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Speaker 1: touchdown on a third and nine screen pass. I believe

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Speaker 1: the two six yards was approximately se of Minnesota's total.

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Speaker 1: And yes, I take nothing away from Mike Zimmer's defense.

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Speaker 1: They were really banged up at cornerback. The windy conditions

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Speaker 1: certainly affected the passing game, but you thought the Packers

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Speaker 1: certainly would the way they started the game, they would

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Speaker 1: be more efficient on offense. But the bottom line is

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Speaker 1: the defense gave up four consecutive touchdowns, and when the

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Speaker 1: offense started to get some penalty flags in the third

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Speaker 1: quarter to stall out some drives, suddenly the Packers couldn't

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Speaker 1: keep up. And you're playing from behind, and I tell

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Speaker 1: you what, coming from behind two touchdowns against the Mike

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Speaker 1: got he's he's got the scheme and and the coaching

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Speaker 1: was really hard for the Packers to come back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and and this and again. You have sixteen regular season

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Speaker 1: games you're not always going to be at and things

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Speaker 1: like this happened. But you really do get a feeling

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Speaker 1: like it was the perfect storm for the Packers in

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Speaker 1: this game. You go in without David back tr and

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Speaker 1: without Aaron Jones, and Jamal Williams has been incredibly solid.

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Speaker 1: You know my feelings on him. I've made that ambutdantly clear,

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Speaker 1: especially over the last few weeks. But if you look

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Speaker 1: back at the performances the Packers had last season, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Jones is a big reason they won those two games,

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Speaker 1: in one of which the Vikings didn't have Delvin Cook,

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Speaker 1: and you saw how the landscape changed. Then you have

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Speaker 1: have just so many different things worked against the Packers

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Speaker 1: he still ended up losing. You end up being five

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Speaker 1: of course of a long season. The key is now

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Speaker 1: though for Green Bay's you're gonna be going up against

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Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners team that's really banged up.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I know what the record was last year

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Speaker 1: you know what I think everybody would have agree was

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Speaker 1: a disappointing performance on Sunday. Yeah, real quickly here West.

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Speaker 1: Backslash Packers. All right, Well, obviously there were shortcomings on

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Speaker 1: the Packers as they dropped to five and two, The

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Speaker 1: good news is they stayed in first place in the

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Speaker 1: NFC North because the Chicago Bears lost in overtime to

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Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints at Soldier Field. So the Bears

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Speaker 1: are five and three, still that half game back of

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Speaker 1: Green Bay. The Bears have not had their bye week yet.

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned the San Francisco forty Niners being pretty

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Speaker 1: banged up, and yeah they are. They lost to one

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Speaker 1: of their division rivals, the Seattle Seahawks. The Forts, now

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Speaker 1: the defending NFC champions, are four and four, and here

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Speaker 1: here's the list. Here's the list Wes on defense, the

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Speaker 1: following players around injured reserve, Nick Bosa, de Ford Solomon Thomas,

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Speaker 1: Ziggy Ansa and Richard Sherman. And on offense, Raheem Mostert

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Speaker 1: each of those guys. My point is, this team the

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Speaker 1: Packers are going to play on Thursday night out in

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Speaker 1: Santa Clara is not even going to resemble personnel wise

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Speaker 1: This is going to be a completely different game and

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Speaker 1: a completely different challenge for the Packers aside from the

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Speaker 1: scheme part of things, because this is still Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 1: that's the big thing here. I think there's a lot

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Speaker 1: football games in spite of that. Now, all that being said,

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Speaker 1: many different areas of this game where if you look

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Speaker 1: at it on paper, the Packers need to go to work,

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Speaker 1: also look at how the forty Niners finished that game

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Speaker 1: So much like you and I, for all of last week,

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Speaker 1: we're preaching Mike, you cannot take the Vikings. Lately, you

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Speaker 1: most definitely cannot take the forty Niners. Likely because if

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Speaker 1: they're they're going to be about as desperate for a

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Speaker 1: if they can get this win on Thursday night, What

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Speaker 1: they're going to do offensively, I shouldn't say what they're

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Speaker 1: He scored a touchdown and you were talking about, you know,

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Speaker 1: But Nick Mullins brought them back and gave them a

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Speaker 1: So um this uh, this this for forty Niners team,

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Speaker 1: this coaching staff, they're They're going to give the Packers

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Speaker 1: own issues to deal with here too, with A. J. Dillon,

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Speaker 1: At the time we're taping this on Tuesday morning, we

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Speaker 1: don't know exactly if there are any other implications as

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Speaker 1: at kickoff time who the Packers have available for this game.

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Speaker 1: But Packers kind of dealing with a strange week to

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Speaker 1: all right, Well, with that, we will call it a

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Speaker 1: wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to

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