WEBVTT - Let’s Rob a Bank About It 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:04.960 Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio Yo, Elizabeth Dutton, 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:06.519 Dave Kusten. 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:07.840 You know what's ridiculous? 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:11.440 I do, I do? Okay? Do you like whiskey? 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:12.840 Yes? 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:14.880 In the jar or not in the jar? Sure? 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:15.239 Sure? 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:20.479 Do you like peanut butter? Of course I'm gonna do 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:25.320 to you what I do Tom. On one side, you 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:28.800 have good old Whiskey, a bold, loud and strong partnering 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:31.600 crime who exudes confidence. I don't know who wrote this, 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:38.400 but godspeed. On the other we have peanut butter is. Yes, 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.800 it's part of the Perry Mason series, a rich, smooth 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.879 and irresistible spread that's as dependable as they come for 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:49.320 all your late night cravings. And you know kindergarten lunches. 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.840 Little did you know these two blend together quite phenomenally. 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:56.280 In fact, they go together so well they make peebe 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.840 and Jay jellis. It's nearly impossible to just have one 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:04.080 of this delicious treat so encouraging alcoholism. But we have 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:07.120 to warn you a night with screwball s k R 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.680 E W B l L is bound to get a 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:13.920 little nutty cringing. Screwball is the original peanut butter whiskey. 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:16.720 I think it has to be the original that embraces 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:20.800 everybody's nutty side. Screwball's iconic mix of both sweet and 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.800 savory flavors definitely pushes boundaries, but that's exactly what makes 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.680 it uniquely appropriate for any occasion. 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:29.720 What wrote this? 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.240 Like, I don't know, but like first communion, poor me 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:36.440 out's up. So yeah, Screwball peanut butter whiskey. How does 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:41.480 it push bound Well, the boundaries of decency. I don't know. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:46.560 Is like, is jelly like the steady and the whiskey 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:48.200 like the peanut butter stepping out? 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.720 Like oh yeah, yeah, it's the side, it's the A 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:55.760 little strange. This came from Emmy. Emily. I think she 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:59.440 goes by Emmy. Someone read the emails that we get 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.600 and passed it along. That never happens. They're kept in 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:07.120 a dark, dank vault and no one but this one 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:09.200 made its way to the top bubbled up. So yeah, 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:10.200 thanks Emmy. 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:15.680 Well, no, thank you, Emmy. That definitely is ridiculous. Yeah, 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:17.480 oh I got one for you and for Emmy. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:18.160 Yes. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.600 How about a guy who robs five banks in the 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:24.959 same region in a span of less than a year. 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:29.400 That is some that's some criminal density. That's ambitious, but 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.840 that's not all. He then makes one of the more 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.040 remarkable career shifts you'll see from a member of the 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.960 Five Timers Club. After twelve years of hard time, he 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:39.720 comes out of the joint with a running start on 0:02:39.800 --> 0:03:03.400 his best life. This is not normal, No, This is 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:07.760 Ridiculous Crime a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers. Heis 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:11.880 and cons it's always ninety nine percent murder free and 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:19.200 one hundred percent ridiculous. Elizabeth Dave, have you ever been 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:22.000 so bored that you decided to do criminal or criminal 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.040 adjacent things just to chase the dread away? 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:28.160 I've dreamt of criminal adjacent or criminal things. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.440 Yeah, I mean, how about like mildly mischievous things? 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.760 Yeah, oh yeah, totally. We I used to work in 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:38.360 a copy mat on campus, the copy play the printing shop, 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.680 and we would be really slow during the summer. We'd 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.040 like print up a bunch of stuff and they just 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:47.000 kind of sit around, and we used to come up 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.720 with how could we builk this operation out of money? 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.440 We didn't do it, but you know, we would contemplate 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:54.240 it and make lists of all the ways you could 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:56.880 steal money. From the copy mat from. 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.520 The I guess, I guess that's technically conspiracy. 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.440 Oh yeah, yeah, and we could if we had carried 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.920 it out. I'm sure that you know. First of all, 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:08.000 it would have gone on our permanent records. 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:09.560 Yeah, have been busted. 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:09.960 Yeah. 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.880 So well, this guy, so the story I'm about to 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:16.240 tell you. This guy got a case of the little 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.240 town blues, right, you know how he decided to melt 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.159 them away with a number of bank jobs. 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:25.040 Hey, that's spicy. That'll do it, pretty. 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:29.280 Big league stuff. His name is Sean Hopwood, but it's 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:33.520 spelled s h O n oh, so like the same 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.680 Sean Sean. It's like, I think of it as like 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.200 the sound of a sword coming out of the sheath Sean, 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.679 or like cutting a slice of chocolate cake Sean. 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.440 If he went to a first grader and he said, 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.400 his friend's name is Sean, how do you spell it 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:48.440 as h O N? 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.960 Take out a big crayon exactly h if Zaron, we're here, 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:55.640 God bless Yeah. Point, I'm pointing to the ceiling for 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:56.159 no reason. 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.280 I'm pouring my water out down on the or of 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.360 the studio here. But if he was fine, by the way, 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:07.160 everyone he's fine, we hope. Yeah. No, he's just out. 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:10.000 He's off traveling the world and giving speeches because he's, 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:10.800 you know, important. 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.200 If Zaren were here, he this guy would qualify for 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.960 my man status. I'm pretty okay, okay, So let me 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:19.839 tell you a little more about where he come from. 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.279 Sean hails from the small town of David City, Nebraska. 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:26.200 I wish I came from there. It would be like 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:26.800 the right place. 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:29.279 I know, right, this is like the origin story. He 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:30.640 just rose up out of the ground. 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.760 David City is about an hour and a half west 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:37.960 of Omaha, or forty five minutes northwest of Lincoln. Lincoln's 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:41.360 kind of like the biggish small town, you know, biggish 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:45.000 small city college town, because that's where the Huskers are, 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.760 right exactly. But David City is pretty flat, nothing but 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.719 corn and cattle, lots of grain, silos, old brick, and 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:55.000 everyone's all up in each other's business. Of course, Sean 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:59.000 quickly outgrew that town. He craved a life that felt 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.440 bigger and more meaningful. He thought he deserved better. He 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:02.839 wanted to dance Elizabeth. 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.360 He just wanted He just wanted to let his body 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:06.400 express itself. 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:10.160 The freak flag needed to fly. So let me tell 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.640 you a little more about his upbringing. He had loving parents, 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.279 Robert and Rebecca. His dad was a member of the 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:19.720 Nebraska Cattlemen Association. Robert he worked labor intensive jobs in 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.360 the cattle industry, and he ran a local youth basketball league, 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:23.919 which Sean eventually would participate in. 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.480 Do you think his dad loved the cattle more than 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:27.320 he loved his son. 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.000 That's a good question. I mean, he being a part 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:34.880 of the Nebraska Cattlemen Association is as I think, a 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:35.720 big efforts. 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:40.080 Yeah yeah, that's high steaks stuff. 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.839 But you know, Sean, unlike the cattle, had his share 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.080 of successes. I think the cattle just hang out. 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:46.760 So m m. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.800 Sean made the local paper. In elementary school along with 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.840 his buddy Tom, who will hear more about later. They 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.720 won some kind of financial literacy competition, like they had 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:01.960 to budget out meals for a week and YadA, YadA, YadA. Yeah, 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.040 I don't know. But then in high school he was 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.240 a bona fide basketball star. He took his team to 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:10.000 the state champs. They took home the trophy and Tom too. 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.640 Tom was a part of that crew. Go Pride, Go 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:16.320 aquinas Pride. Oh wow, Okay, So from what I could tell, 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:18.480 he and his friend Tom, they're living that Larry Bird 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.840 life right Like, they're practicing basketball endlessly, They're. 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.640 Using shorts short short shorts. 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.960 Using glu stick to keep their cow licks down. They're 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:29.080 working on their trash time. 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:30.840 Wait what year is this? 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:35.000 This is actually so he's he's my age, so I 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.800 think it was like he so he would have gone 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:44.800 to high school in like the early early nineties. Like yeah, 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:46.600 and you know, watching the basket College like. 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.560 When you're talking about gluing down Cawlyx, I like, was 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:50.800 this in the fifties? Is no? 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:52.680 I mean I just imagine, like, how else is Larry 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.240 Bird going to keep that cow lick down? 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:59.800 Yeah? These kids are probably using that gel that La Palmer. Yeah, 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:01.160 looks there you go. 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:03.400 And you know, so they're doing all that and they're 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.280 dreaming about doing something vaguely impressive with their lives. 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:07.760 That's good. 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:12.040 Unfortunately, things started to go south for Sean around college time. 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.440 So in the fall of ninety three, he enrolls at 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.840 Midland Lutheran University with a basketball scholarship. 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.400 Good job, Sean, Yeah, hooray. 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:25.360 He flunks out after five months. Oh boo, did you 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.160 ever go from being really good at something to realizing 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.880 you're just okay at it? People way better than God. 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:34.720 Yes. I junior high I tried to play basketball, couldn't 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:36.920 do it. To save my life. Coach pulled me aside. 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:38.640 This is like seventh grade, pulls me aside, is like, 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:40.880 this is not for you. Oh man, I mean come, 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.520 I'm like, must give me a break, dude. 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:44.200 Yeah, it was. 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.200 Oh, I was horrible. And then also then so I 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:49.080 go from high school where I'm like overachiever, top of 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:53.160 my class, blah blah blah, go to college, can't pass calculus, 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:57.360 can't pass chemistry, wind up on probate, academic probation, and 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.160 I got taken down a notch. Like girls, I'm a 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.880 class of sixty. Wasn't hard to be super good. And 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.040 then you go to a college with like thirty thousand 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:10.080 people in it. It was reckoning, David, You. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.640 Never forget that first d or fduh. 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.760 God it brought me lou and then I got Then 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.240 I went and did it again. I got another F 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:18.880 in calculus when I tried to retake it. 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.120 Lesson learned, let's learned, don't take calculus. 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.840 I was humble. Yeah, oh yeah, me and math don't mix. 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.120 So this is what happened to Sean. He's got like 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.559 the ghost of Ricky Bobby Future on one shoulder, saying, 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.480 if you ain't first, you last, right, And he's got 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.959 the dad from searching for Bobby Fisher on the other shoulder, 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.559 who's like, Joshua, there are no losers in this family. 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.600 You must always win. I mean, you give yourself a break, brother, right. 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.160 You know that anxiety dream where you dream you've never 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:45.800 been to class. 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:48.320 I have those all the time. 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.560 Yeah, me too, Oh yeah, me too, Like where like 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.000 the last day you're coming in to take the exam 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:53.920 and you've never been there. 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:55.920 Yeah, you find out that you've been registered for a 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.199 class this whole time, and it's for me, it's always 0:09:58.200 --> 0:09:59.280 a math class exactly. 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:04.760 Oh yeah, yeah, that's what he did, basically. Yeah, he 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:08.240 just never showed up for class. So he flunks out 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.960 of school, packs up his CD disc man, his Tivas, 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:15.880 his tapestry, remaining cases of clearly Canadian, his reservoir dogs poster. 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:21.000 I'm talking about this. He deflates his basketball, puts it 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.839 in the briefcase, and his buddy Tom drives him back 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:28.520 home to David City. There he gets a tiny apartment 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:30.960 and jobs a riveter in a trailer factory, which sounds 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:32.439 kind of dismal, kind of cool, but. 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.160 Kind of does kind of yeah, like it could go 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:34.680 either way. 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.120 He quickly burns through his money. His dad is going 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.679 to bail him out, but only if he joins the Navy. 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.840 Tough love. Yeah, Sean figures it at least get him 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:46.480 out of David City for a while. And that's like 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:48.880 his whole m right now is like I hate this city. 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.360 I heard this town. I hate this town. So he's like, okay, 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.240 I'll go in the Navy. So now we're in June 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.160 ninety four. He goes through boot camp, he gets an 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:01.800 advanced Stinger missile certification shipped out to Bahrain. Oh and 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:05.040 he's quickly promoted. Now he's supporting a bunch of Stinger 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.400 missile operators in the Persian Gulf, which is a big 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:08.600 deal in nineteen ninety four. 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:10.280 Oh yeah, yeah. 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.520 And way better than shoveling manure in David City. 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:14.480 Right yeah, or riveting trailers. 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:15.960 Yeah, riveting trailer parts. 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.400 Now, when you fight people in like the street or 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.120 in bars, do you tell him like, I'm gonna take 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:22.520 you downtown in David City. 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:27.120 There's there's trouble in David Cities, and it's in city 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:32.640 and it starts with it starts with his fist. But 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.959 again it wasn't enough. He gets that itch like he did, 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.880 you know in college, where he was like I really 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.160 wanted to do basketball, but I'd suck at basketball and 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.320 I don't know what to do. He must have been 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:46.440 pretty insufferable to the dudes around him, you know. He 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.320 gets a military promotion and is like I am better 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:49.599 than this. 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:50.800 Yeah. 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.240 So he's under twenty one in a strange place, living 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:55.480 with a bunch of other enlisted dudes where it's legal 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.319 to consume alcohol at eighteen. What do board soldiers do 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.079 you under those circumstances. 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.760 Elizabeth, Oh, I don't want to know. What I do 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:02.200 want to know? 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:07.280 Actually they play Tetris no lots and lots of booze. 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.040 He drinks so much booze that he comes down with 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.480 a cute pancreatitus and nearly dies. 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:16.520 Like at the under twenty one a cute Oh goodness, 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.160 that's a lot he's drinking that that rot good. 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.440 He's got like a seventy year old liver. Uh So, 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:25.920 after a week at the Bahrainy Hospital, they ship him 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.640 back to Bethesda to finish off his term, and then 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.160 when the enlistment is done, he ends up in Lincoln, Nebraska, 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.880 and then back in David City, which you know is 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:37.160 thrilling for him. This time he takes up residence in 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:41.640 the glamorous shapeer Mayor his parents' basement. Okay, I made 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:42.199 that up myself. 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.680 I like this. That was really good. That's totally good. 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:46.800 So he's just sitting in the basement all jaundiced. 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:51.959 Yeah, he gets a job in the cattle industry, actually 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.600 shoveling manure this time. Oh, cleaning out barns and dealing 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.080 with that side of the business, which you know fair 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:58.880 enough does suck. 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.360 So he's got to do it. Yeah, someone's got to 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.400 do it. Might as well be the kid with pink creatatus. 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.319 He again creatitis. 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:13.800 He runs into money problems again. Mister financial genius you know, 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.880 fifth grader or whatever, runs into money problems. It seems 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.240 he was either passing bad checks or very bad at 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:23.400 personal bookkeeping. Either way, Johnny Law catches up with him 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.960 his dad again, this time very sternly bails him out 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.720 of any immediate danger. After the bad Checks incident, he 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.959 goes back to what he knows, tries to reenlist in 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:33.959 the Navy. The Navy says no, thank you. They look 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.280 at his record, they're like yeah, yeah. So now he's 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.480 spending a lot of time with his friend Tom, both 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:41.640 of them trying to chase their depression away with hard 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:45.679 living and jobs they hate. Around this time, he and 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.280 Tom have an absolute epic throw down in the snow. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:50.679 It's kind of a dumb story, so I'm not going 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:52.559 to tell you the whole thing, but basically it's like 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:57.160 drunk driving one off spinship throwing haymakers, petty insults and 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:01.800 as you know, Elizabeth hurt. People tend to wound those around. 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.840 Yes, so it's gruesome Toosome. They're just going around, like 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.400 just living the worst life in David City. 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:11.840 Yeah, Like you know, they're working, you know, sixty hour 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.040 weeks at work and then they're boozing and they're like, 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:18.160 you know, looking for looking for college girls and Lincoln 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:22.520 the whole thing and visible all the time. After you know, 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:24.080 about a week after the fight, they end up in 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:28.240 a bar after exchanging awkward apologies like bros, de like, oh, dude, 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.280 I'm so oh my god, dude, I am so sorry, 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.280 like I was from. Then they have the kind of 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.760 conversation that those of us in the hindsight business call 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:40.480 a huge mistake. Oh no. It starts with Tom saying, 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.360 so what do you think about us robbing a bank? 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:47.720 Oh? That is like the worsd especially coming out of 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:48.440 Oh boy. 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:52.040 Yeah, that was it though, that was it. They found 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.720 their cure for their terminal small town boredom and suffocating 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.760 small lives. Here's what Sean says, Here's how he remembers it. 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.280 Most people would have laughed that off. But to me, 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.840 the world was newly framed in that instant, Everything once 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:06.440 bleak was now interesting and new. The beauty of the 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.360 idea was that we would either go down like Butch 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.440 and Sundance, or we would have the money to really live. 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.040 Either way it would be a big improvement. For the 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.920 first time in a long time, we were excited about 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:17.480 the future. 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:20.360 They were just following their spirit. 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:25.560 Well hot damn. Needless to say, Sean said, that sounds 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.880 like an absolutely capital idea. My good man. So Sean 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.280 gets home, he opens up Microsoft word Clippy pops up. Yes, 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:34.880 it looks like you're about to rob a bank? Can 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:38.400 I offer some suggestions? First, you should figure out which 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.280 bank you will rob. Click more for more ideas, And. 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:44.120 He clicked word art and wrote bank robbery across the 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:48.120 top and wavy script like it was thinking totally. 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.320 So they get into Tom's car and they go north 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:53.440 to go bank shopping. Tom's father owned a small property 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:56.240 in that direction. Their plan gets a little bit confusing, 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.360 but let me tell you really quick, this is like 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:01.440 the thing they put the most thought into. They're gonna 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.600 stash their actual getaway car at Tom's dad's farm before 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.960 the robbery. That's location one. Okay, they pick out an 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.800 abandoned cornfield somewhere and stash an old grain truck there. 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:14.880 That's location two. Then they're going to drive a disposable 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.680 stolen car to the bank and drive it back to 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.760 location two, ditch it, grab the grain truck as car 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.040 number two to get them back to location one, then 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.560 pick up their real car for the actual getaway. You'll 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:30.160 double switch through. Yeah right, I mean, I guess it's fine, 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.560 Like it seems like over engineered. 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:33.960 But what's a vehicular shell game? 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:37.600 So they find their target, they decide to hold up 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.880 Petersburg State Bank. They case it three times. Tom wears 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:43.640 a baseball cap and a wig and probably put on 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.520 a missus doubt fire accent, and he asks for a 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.600 tour of the safety deposit area. Oh really, really obvious. 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.640 Sean goes in twice and asks for a roll of 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:54.560 quarters each time. 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.040 It was playing it low. There. 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.000 They made hand drawings what they found. You know, they 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:02.960 tried to let some time pass in order to remember 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.439 the weirdos obviously casing the joint right now, Remember that 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:10.359 whole passing bad checks issue. Yeah, Sean blew off his 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.720 court appearance for that, So now he's got a bench 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.080 warrant on top of it. Oh my god, call it 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:16.040 a sporting handicap. 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.760 I wonder why he wasn't able to follow through with call. 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.320 So Sean and Tom are now back in David City. 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:25.800 Now they'll need to steal a car and also locate 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.520 some heaters because it gets cold in Nebraska. No, I 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:29.240 mean guns. 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:33.320 They're have to locate some gus the blower, Yeah. 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.800 A couple blowers. So Sean goes back to Clippy, who says, 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.000 you'll need something to put the money in, and then 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.640 waves at the screen and minimizes. Sean grabs his dad's 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.359 old toolbox and puts some canvas bags in there. He 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:46.960 pulls together a duffel bag full of criming supplies and 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.439 back to Clippy. You'll need to get away car. And 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.600 then Clippy blows a kiss over its shoulder. 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:52.679 That's weird. 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:55.840 They find a car a few towns away in a 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:57.680 church parking lot with the keys still in it, a 0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:58.960 nice Chrysler New Yorker. 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.560 God, God bless a Chrysler New. 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:05.320 York good old American leiaha car. Yes, uh so they 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.320 stashed the car in the grain truck where they need 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.440 them to be. They check into a CD motel using 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:10.520 Tom's real name. 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:12.359 Oh dumb? 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:14.680 Smart? 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:16.919 Okay, is it so dumb? It's smart? 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.679 It might be what will say? In fact, you know 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:22.640 their room isn't ready yet. So let's take a. 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.240 Break, okay, and I'll wait in the car. 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:27.600 I'd like you to find things to do in Petersburg, 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:29.560 Nebraska for a few hours while we take in some 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:30.560 lovely advertisements. 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.280 Easy enough, all right. 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.919 Elizabeth, Elizabeth, wake up. You fell asleep on the nasty 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.800 couch of the motel lobby, reading hemphlets about ghost tours 0:18:57.800 --> 0:18:58.600 and corn mazes. 0:18:58.680 --> 0:18:59.840 Where am I? Did you? 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:02.719 Did you even hear any of those top shelf ads? 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.679 I feel like they like it was by osmosis, something 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:07.680 about LifeLock. 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.280 I don't know. I don't. Should we go back? Should we? 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:10.520 Yeah? 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:10.800 Run? 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:12.640 Okay it again? 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:18.280 Well we'll spare you. It's Monday morning, August eighteenth, nineteen 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.240 ninety seven, and it's go time. 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:20.879 Mm. 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.479 The boys wake up, shake off the bed bugs. They 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:26.560 drive the Ford Tempo to the grain truck, the grain 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:29.760 truck to the Chrysler. They're about to set sail towards 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:33.399 the bank in the stolen Chrysler. As they entered the 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:35.720 town of Petersburg, they see a cop car parked about 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:37.120