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Speaker 1: for you to ask me. Dear Colin, what do you

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Speaker 1: Football League is the only sport in America that is

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Speaker 1: not team dependent. In baseball, there's a handful of huge

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Speaker 1: biggest TV rating in five years off of Brady Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl is the television sports story of the year.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is the NFL, and I've said this

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Speaker 1: for years, is the best run league. I think it

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Speaker 1: navigates politics and race better. Sometimes those become one thing

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Speaker 1: It's safety innovations and improvements have clearly made the game healthier.

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Speaker 1: The Colin Kaepernick and CTE Sagas were real landmines, and

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Speaker 1: after about six months they moved off both. It's a

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Speaker 1: well run league. It doesn't need most of the media

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Speaker 1: likes to matter. And sometimes when I watched the media

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Speaker 1: they're rooting against the league, because I think the NFL

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Speaker 1: is the one sport that really does not need positive

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Speaker 1: league has been for years, whether most of the media

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Speaker 1: wants to acknowledge it or not. Dear Colin, what was

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Speaker 1: your favorite sports tweet of the week. I loved new

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Speaker 1: USC football coach Lincoln Riley tweeting from a suite at

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Speaker 1: basketball game in Norman. Here's a little story. When USC

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Speaker 1: Rick Caruso and Mike Boone, the athletic director in the

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Speaker 1: Angeles and super Bowls over the next ten years, several

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Speaker 1: more than ever and that the growth potential of the

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Speaker 1: Bowl ticket prices were out of control. Doesn't that bother you? Well,

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Speaker 1: me when hard working men and women realize their potential,

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Speaker 1: I've said often, I've voted for Democrats and I voted

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Speaker 1: Dear Colin, Aaron Rodgers and Shane Leen Woodley broke up.

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Speaker 1: now that are fantastic. KD. Golden about Steph Curry and dynasties,

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Speaker 1: It's Steph, it's Clay, it's Draymond. And they're gonna make

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting because I always felt Andrew Wiggins

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Speaker 1: spot up ish type of players. So I'm interested to

423
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Speaker 1: see how this works. It didn't work that well with

424
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Speaker 1: Chris Paul and James Harden, and it didn't work that

425
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: well with James Harden and Kyrie. But Tyrese Maxie isn't

426
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Speaker 1: a superstar to be able to kind of demand it

427
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: anything out of the situation, right, So James hard is

428
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: gonna get to do whatever he wants. So what happens

429
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: to Tyreeks Maxie. That's if they figure that out. If

430
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: Maxie can be good off the ball, if he could

431
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: be some kind of slasher, if he can knock down

432
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: open shots, then it's fine. But they're kind of I mean,

433
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: they're like already bake cookies man, like you put them

434
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: in the oven. They're gonna go just because it's already there.

435
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: And they have the big They have the dominant big man.

436
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: I do think that's a big difference than the dominant

437
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: guard per se. How how do you look at the Lakers?

438
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: Listen the rosters, Old, the chemistry's average. Westbrook can't play

439
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: off the ball, a D can't stay healthy. It is

440
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: a weak front office. Man like post Kobe. Any problem

441
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: they call next Laker. It's the opposite of the Warriors.

442
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: Like I said, I've been saying this now for a

443
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Speaker 1: couple of months. The Rams had a parade yesterday. The

444
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: Lakers are ninth in the West, and there's a story

445
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Speaker 1: out that they're gonna bring the same team back. I

446
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Speaker 1: would move a D. It sounds crazy, I think I honestly,

447
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: Marcus think the pandemic did them a huge favor. It

448
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: gave four months off to a D. He's never proven

449
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: he can play in the last four years, a full

450
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: season he got healthy. Lebron Old got healthy. Like, it's

451
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: not like the trade didn't work. You got a title.

452
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Speaker 1: I would move a D and blow the damn thing up.

453
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Speaker 1: How do you view them going forward? I think they

454
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: need a piece, another piece that prevents Lebron having to

455
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: carry this team on his back in February, right, And

456
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: that's what Westbrook was supposed to be, a guy who'd

457
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Speaker 1: be like, all right, man, look I'm not about to

458
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: go all out right now, all right, I'm thirty seven

459
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: years old. I'm like that only smiles on me. You

460
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: need me in the playoffs, And here he does. He

461
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: has to be this herculean figure in the fourth quarter, right,

462
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: ad e goes down. Now, now he's now, he's pretty

463
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: much screwed. Like Lebron can't afford to tweak anything. So

464
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Speaker 1: I think they need another player who can carry the load.

465
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: And both Anthony Davis has proven he can't stay healthy

466
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: and Russell Westbrook seems to be passed the moment where

467
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: he's carrying teams. So that's the difficult part. How do

468
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: you get that other player? If you got to do

469
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: a d to get him, then that player needs to

470
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: be pretty young, right, You need to be somebody who

471
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Speaker 1: can carry the ship, because that was the plan. It

472
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a torch passing, right. It was

473
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: supposed to be Lebron pass the church. Now it's very

474
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: clear that you cannot pass the torch to Anthony Davis.

475
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Speaker 1: He's incredible, he's just not reliable. He just can't keep

476
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Speaker 1: him on the court. So I don't know if I

477
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Speaker 1: give him up, because like you said, he's the best

478
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Speaker 1: number two player, But then how are you gonna get

479
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: that other figure without giving them up, Like they don't

480
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: have anything else to move, you know. An interesting thing

481
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: is that, and I've noticed this over the last twenty

482
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: years in the NBA, the skill has never been greater.

483
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: The international players are tougher, not just finesse. The domestic

484
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: players are players are or skilled early because they have

485
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: to be. I do think the culture of basketball, the

486
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: AAU world. They're all friends now, so it is very

487
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: hard to find a player. Kobe had this kind of

488
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: an old school get in your kitchen, you know, like Kawhi.

489
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: A lot of the great players now are tremendous, but

490
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: Chris Paul's a leader, like he'll get right in your grill.

491
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: And I don't feel the NBA has a ton of that, no,

492
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: and in markets it's really interesting. So one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons I think Phoenix is going to win the title.

494
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: And I really do think I think there's an old

495
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: school architecture to their roster. They have the classic veteran

496
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: distributing point guard who barks, the classics scoring guard two,

497
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: the wing who can shoot and defend threes, the big

498
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: that can run the floor or post. I honestly feel

499
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: like they're a nineteen They're like like the Sonics or something.

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00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: They're like a late seventy early eighties team. How does

501
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: Golden State match up with Phoenix because I think I

502
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: think their architecture is really old school, and Montie Williams

503
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: just embraces it, and I think the young players embrace Chris,

504
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: who can be really a barker. I think, first off,

505
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: Phoenix is so perfectly constructed, like just for the reasons

506
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: you said, there there a machine. They're like the Tesla

507
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: they are. They just run. And the unique part about

508
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: it is DeAndre Ayden isn't trying to shoot threes. Mkill

509
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: Bridges isn't trying to iso. Like, everybody plays their role.

510
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: They do their role, and they're happy doing their role,

511
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: and they do it every night and you can count

512
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: on them. Nobody's trying to do more than what they need.

513
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: And Booker is like, yo, if you don't stop my

514
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: mid range I will take a thousand of them things right, Like,

515
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't need to do highlights and crossover.

516
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: I don't need people to fall. It is a very

517
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: old school construction. Like first off, you gotta wonder if

518
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Speaker 1: Chris Paul Hans arrived in the entire postseason, right, That's

519
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: that's their biggest issue. That's number one. Number two like

520
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: can they shoot the ball consistently from three? Uh? If

521
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: you get hot from three, you're gonna be You're gonna

522
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: get Phoenix and problems because DeAndre Aten is great, but

523
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: if you're training twos for threes, you got a problem.

524
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: And Phoenix can shoot the ball, but they can also

525
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: not shoot the ball, so you got some issues there.

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00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: But they're so tough, man. They can get a two

527
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: from anywhere on the court, if it's if it's Booker,

528
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: if it's Chris Paul, if it's Eighten. They can get

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00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: a two from anywhere on the court. And they got

530
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: big shot hitters like Jay Crowder McKell bridges. I feel

531
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Speaker 1: like it's the consummate role player. I mean, they are

532
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: perfectly constructed and they're hungry. That's the thing. They got

533
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: to the finals and lost, Like they are hungry, and

534
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: it's tough to account for that. I just feel like

535
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: Steph Clay, they gotta go. They gotta go crazy from three.

536
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: They have to go lights out. They're really good defensive team,

537
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: so they've got to turn Devin Booker or something inefficient.

538
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: They you know, they gotta do. They got make Chris

539
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: Paul like tire them out, make up the fen all

540
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: over the court and run off a Billiuscree like there's

541
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: a blueprint to it. It's just gonna be tough. Man.

542
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,640
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Speaker 1: on the Volume podcast network. You know. Um, there are

549
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: a couple of teams I don't buy. I think Chicago

550
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: is your classic. Oh come on, can we just bast

551
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 1: up the Heartfield story that is Demarga Rosen Can you

552
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: wait them? His story? His story is great, but they

553
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: they've got a butt. They've got Demarja Rosen who's an A,

554
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: and they've got a lot of guys who are abandoned

555
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: and have something to prove, who are B to B

556
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: plus players. And I do see and I think those

557
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: kind of teams hit a wall second round. Like I

558
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: think their story is great. They don't have a second a.

559
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: It's a lot of Alex Carusoe's although he's hurt. It's

560
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: a lot of guys Lonzo ball, Yeah, oh fuck you

561
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: you abandon me. Oh I can play and they can.

562
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: But I feel like that's the one team the immedia

563
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: is kind of putting their arms around. I just feel

564
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: there's a ceiling. But why we kids? Why we kids

565
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: is a dream? Why we can't have Chicago back at

566
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: the top. You know, we don't need realism right now.

567
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: We need a little bit of fantastical joy. And that's

568
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: what DeMar Durero's and brain. Will they lose in the

569
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: second round, probably, But we don't have to think that way.

570
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: We can think that Voussovic is gonna finally play defense,

571
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: That's what we could think. We could think that Alex

572
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: Carusoe's gonna lock up on the perimeter, and take away

573
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: some of these great guards in the East, and then

574
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: we could also kind of think that Brooklyn and Philly

575
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: might fall apart and pay the perfect way. I do

576
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: think that's part of the hope, right, some of these

577
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: teams up top, we'll pay the way. I mean, their

578
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 1: destiny is to run into Milwaukee, Philly or Brooklyn and lose. Right,

579
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: That's that's how this is shaping up. But I'm not no, No,

580
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 1: I'm a nineties baby. I grew up with the Bulls

581
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: Intro song and the red jerseys. You know what I'm

582
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: saying in the pinstripe. We get that back for a moment.

583
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: Can we just have that back? When was the last

584
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: time we had that? Derek Rose? And now you want

585
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: to take it from us because you want to be

586
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: for real? No, No, We're it's nineties nostalgia. It's Super Bowl.

587
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 1: We were listening to Snoop Dogg and Doctor Dre and

588
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: now we rolling with Chicago. We're getting our Bulls hats

589
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: and our baggy shorts and we're rocking with the Bulls

590
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: Intro song. Give us that, Collins? Jeez, are you are

591
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: you surprised? I watched the next the other night it's

592
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 1: so funny. I mean, I like Julius Randall, but this

593
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: was the most inevitable conclusion right there. I would have

594
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: sold high on him. Well, it's funny because the reason

595
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: he was hard to move because it was the first

596
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: time since the Jeremy Lynn lung that you gave I

597
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: understand the knicks. I'm like, well, I get it, Like

598
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: the city was really I mean, the Jets and the

599
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: Giant stink. The city was the metro joke. The Yankees underachieved,

600
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: and you're sitting there thinking, shit, we get the city back. Yeah, Like,

601
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: I get it, right, but we all knew. If you know,

602
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: when you watch him play now he shoots a lot

603
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: more threes. The dirty works not nearly as fun now

604
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: that I got the bag. You know, you know, a

605
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: TIMS team eventually is gonna burn out, right, It's like

606
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: it's like a wick of a candle. Eventually he's gonna

607
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: get to the end. I feel like this is faster

608
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: than normal, right. I feel like it would have been

609
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: next year. But now they just look white. They look whooped.

610
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: You can you can see it. Julius Rando when he

611
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: played the Warriors and they put like a they had

612
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: the rookie jo don't think comingo on him, and he

613
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: turned into shack right like he look he looked live

614
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: and again he's like, what is this one on one

615
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: coverage against the dude? I can hold on, I get

616
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: just put my shoulder in his chest. He looked like

617
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: the old Julius Randall. And that's tough every night. That's

618
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: that's tough. And then you got that in the back

619
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Speaker 1: of your mind what happened in the playoffs when they

620
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: were like completely outclassed by a team by the way,

621
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: that's like towards the back back half, right that did

622
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: you know Atlanta is not the Atlanta Hawks we suspect,

623
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: So you've got that kind of running down in the

624
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: back of your mind, like I just think they're tired man,

625
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: that he's playing thirty seven in something minutes a night,

626
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: Like this is what Tims does? We do? What was coming? Yeah? No,

627
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: I mean Daryl Morey told me this week, he said, listen,

628
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: you just don't understand unless you go to NBA games

629
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: and sit by the floor, what it's like five feet

630
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: to the rim. Yeah, it is a wrestling match. So

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Speaker 1: you add on that to Tims's practices and his minutes

632
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: like there's a time line. Yeah, man, there's a timeline

633
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: to how much people want to get banged on. And

634
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: it is funny because when when TIBs got hired, I thought,

635
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: oh god, I've seen this story before. He energizes, they overachieve,

636
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: and then in the end, this is a there's a

637
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: lot of travel, it's a hard league, and they don't

638
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: have enough scorers. So I mean season right, remember, Yeah

639
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: that is the fact. So yeah, you know, but there

640
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: is part of me that understands that the city of

641
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: New York right now has so many bad teams and

642
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: they were there was a moment last year You're like, shit,

643
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: for the first time, maybe the second time, counting Jeremy

644
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: Lynn in fifteen years, the city's into the Knicks. I

645
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: get it. And I was there the last time I

646
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: was there. I was like an intern of Newsday when

647
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: the spree Will Larry Johnson Knicks were kicking. Yeah, that

648
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: was a long time ago. How do you not look?

649
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: We had it out here, remember, we believe it was like,

650
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they won a series and they burned out

651
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: against you talk the second round, but you know they

652
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: had the Bay Area lit like it made it makes sense.

653
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: It was exciting to see Knicks fans excited. Right, Yes,

654
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: that was yes, no question, that was a great part.

655
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: But all it did, all it did, Colin was set

656
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: Knicks fans up to be ridiculed again. And is that

657
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: was that worth it was? Was that was I'm worth

658
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: it for the rest of the league to say, ah,

659
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: you thought you were good, But I think Nick fans

660
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 1: knew it. They knew it like you, it's not hard

661
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: to figure out when you're one is probably a three, right,

662
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: like everybody knew, but you I did. There's an argument

663
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: to be made that for the momentum of the franchise

664
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: and for a bat signal to the rest of the league,

665
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: we play hard. We don't think Julius Reynold's probably worth this,

666
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: but we're gonna take care of our guy. That that's

667
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: a bat signal that I think that has power in

668
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: the league other players, especially after they got sperned so

669
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: majorly by Katie and Kyrie, right, and you know, and

670
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: you know that was a good sign. By the way,

671
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: Katie going on Twitter talking about it sounded like Barclays.

672
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: But the idea that if you're a free agent in

673
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: the NBA and you're looking at the Knicks, and you

674
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: saw what happened in the playoffs. You're like, yo, I

675
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 1: could be the man if I get him there, Like yeah,

676
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: Like are you serious? You see what they did for

677
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: Julius Rando and RJ. Berry, Like I could be I

678
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: could be the man if I get there. You know,

679
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 1: you know who's really thinking that, Probably I've been. Zion

680
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: Williamson was looking at that, like, yo, I can't even

681
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: man if you know'd be there. By the way, I

682
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: understood taking Zion over John Morant because here's my theory.

683
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: Iverson John wall Westbrook, John Morant, Steph Marberry, no titles, Biggs,

684
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: Steph Curry got one without a big but in the

685
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: last twenty years, Duncan's got four, Shack's got three. Gassault

686
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: even Kobe needed Biggs Like I got it, like I

687
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: was one of these. I got a lot of stuff

688
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: with Zion, but I also said his torque, his power,

689
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: his weight is an issue. Do you classify is Zion

690
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: a bust? If you consider everything from the family to

691
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: this health to the injuries in your space in this league?

692
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: Do people think bust? Now? I think you've seen too

693
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: much of the potential. Right Um, it's hard to tell

694
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: these days how much of this is like actual and

695
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: how much of it is I don't want to play

696
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: for New Orleans anymore, right, like we could. You just

697
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: don't know these days. But when you saw him and

698
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: he's shooting sixty seven percent from the field, right, I know,

699
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: it was like Will is like if you just get

700
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: him on the court and he don't even know how

701
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: to play basketball yet. So I think it's too early,

702
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 1: and we're starting to see these things in the league

703
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: where maybe a guy five years later figure it out,

704
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: he gets to say, you guys wrote me off. I

705
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: think so there's as a hesitant. I mean, Andrew Wiggins

706
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: is one of them right where it's like he's an

707
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: All Star starter now, I mean it happens a little bit. Yeah,

708
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: So I think there's a there's far more patience, but

709
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: it's tough. It does feel a little Greg Oden kd right,

710
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: Jah and Zion where it's like you gotta go big,

711
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: like it's a big league, you gotta go big. But man,

712
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: that perimeter, dude looks really good. And so now you're

713
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: seeing Jah looks like an MVP candidate. We ain't seen

714
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: Zion since, you know, since before the pandemic. So it's tough.

715
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think it's it's bust labeled yet.

716
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: I think he we we just need to know what

717
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: the injury status is and when he's coming back. But

718
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't know a player that would rush back to

719
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: New Orleans, Like I don't know the worst culture in

720
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: the league. Do you think it's the worst culture in

721
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: the league. I think the management is a little. I

722
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: think the ownership and management. I mean, first off, like

723
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: the Saints are the priority of the French of the ownership, right,

724
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: Like that's that's that's a tough pill to swallow, Like

725
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's the most lit New Orleans is it's

726
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: Marty Grads Saints games at LSU games, right, So I

727
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: think it's just tough. But I do think the team

728
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: is pretty good, and I do think Pelicans fans are

729
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: pretty good. Like I've been to playoff games there, Like

730
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: they ride with their team. So I do think they

731
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: have some issues with the fact that the Saints owner

732
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: owns the Pelicans, and it's very clear what the priority is, right,

733
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: and it's tough to kind of put everything behind your

734
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: your Pelicans guy. So we've seen Anthony Davis leave and

735
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: we're seeing Zion or we're not seeing them in New Orleans, right,

736
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: So there's got to be something behind the scenes. But

737
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: I do think they're a really good young team and

738
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: they're really engaging. When they're good, the place is great,

739
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: and maybe it's just you know, I like going to

740
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: New Orleans, so I'm hoping the Pelicans are good again,

741
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: all right. Marcus Thompson touched all the bases, three books,

742
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: Golden Story about Steph Curry, k D Great Book, and

743
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: Dynasties the top ten Goat teams that change the NBA Forever.

744
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: He is Marcus Thompson, Bay Area for the Athletic, one

745
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: of my favorite guys. And I love having you. Man.

746
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: Now you're standing for this thing. I am worried about

747
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: your band. For Kylie, you know what I'm saying. Any

748
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: other pain, I'm having a seat. But for Colin Cowe,

749
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: we out here, we're standing up, man. We in an energy.

750
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm ready, let's go. I

751
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: really appreciate that. Thank you. That's dedication right there. Look

752
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: at it. I'm wanting some feet. That's funny. This kind

753
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: of guy you are. I'm a stand up gentleman, yes sir,

754
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: that's right. Boom and we close with that. Thanks man,

755
00:41:41,719 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: no problem, thank you. The volume it