1 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: What is up? What is going on? Y'all? 2 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: This is another episode of the Bedam podcast, the final 3 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: episode of the BTWN podcast for the year and for 4 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: the season, and it's a bittersweet way to put it, 5 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: just because of how the season is gone, not being great. 6 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Of course, this. 7 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: Time last year we're talking about playoffs. This year, we 8 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: were talking about draft position this time of year, and 9 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: it looks like the Commanders are guaranteed to pick at 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: least seventh after their Christmas Day loss to the Dallas Cowboys. 11 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: Made a fun go of it. 12 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: It was a competitive game, but in the end they 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: end up falling thirty to twenty three. And now they're going 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: to end the season in Philadelphia against the Eagles at 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: four to twenty five on Sunday. 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: And you know, we've. 17 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: Talked a lot about how they're gonna win, how we're 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: gonna lose, and obviously the Commander is gonna competitive and 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: try to win. But I think we're gonna go for 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: a more broad focus in this in this podcast to 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: kind of talk a little bit about the future, talk 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: a little about the game itself, and it's you know, 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: it's a weird thing. We're just gonna have to roll 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: with it because that's just the way it's gone. Here 25 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 2: week eighteen of a four and twelve season, but here 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 2: with me. We have two returning guests, and I thought 27 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: it would be good to in the year how we 28 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 2: started on a positive note. We have the the two 29 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: guests from week one. We have Alex Flom. 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: From DC News. Now, how you doing, Alex? 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 3: What's up? Zach? 32 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on as always, absolutely of course. 33 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: And we have Ethan and Doe from Monumental Ethan, how 34 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: you doing. 35 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: I'm doing great? How are you? 36 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: It's you know, it's Christmas. It's Christmas time. We're enjoying that. 37 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: I'm in Tennessee right now. But it's like I was 38 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: saying before, the podcast work is just such a weird, 39 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: flimsy concept at this point. 40 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna soldier on though. 41 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: But with all I said, guys, everyone knows how the 42 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: podcast goes, question answers, points, wins, losses. I will decide 43 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: the winner, but always focus on these guys perspectives because 44 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: they are the stars of the show and we're gonna 45 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 2: go jump right into it. 46 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: And we've seen a lot of really good. 47 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: Younger song players start to get more so more of 48 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: these snaps this year, and Ben Senting is obviously the 49 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: one that a lot of people really want to see. 50 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: Had a pretty solid game three catches for thirty yards 51 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: against the Cowboys, And every time I ask this question, 52 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: it's always we want to see more Ben Centing, We 53 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: want to see more Ben Sentate. And that's like, I 54 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: hear you, I hear you, Well, we all want to 55 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: see more of this guy because I think he really 56 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: could be something. But there are other offositive players that 57 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: are going to be playing more against the Eagles that 58 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: could be more impactful heading it in next season. You've 59 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: got games like Tayloring Burgs, who's not necessarily a young guy, 60 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: but he is new to the system. You have a 61 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 2: lot of other younger players that could get some more 62 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 2: playing time. So we'll start this podcast with the question, 63 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: aside from Ben Sennett, who do you want to see 64 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: more of for the younger guys on offense. 65 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: Alex will start with you. 66 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I don't know if they're going to put 67 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 4: him in, but I want to see Sam Hartman under center. 68 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 4: I know this was kind of a conversation last week. 69 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 4: I know he entered the game as the third string 70 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 4: emergency quarterback, you know, but they've been developing him on 71 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 4: the practice squad. We've seen him out there with David Blau, 72 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: we saw him out there with ta Vita Pritcher before. 73 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: I'd like to see what he's got. This is the 74 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 4: opportunity to put him out there. I know it's against 75 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 4: a tough Eagles team, but you know, I think they 76 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 4: have to at least know ken season with Sam Hartman, 77 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 4: maybe as our third quarterback if Josh Johnson retires, or 78 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 4: should we go out and bring someone in through the 79 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: draft or a young prospecting free agency, because if Jaden 80 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: gets hurt in the future and Marcus isn't gonna be 81 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 4: around forever, you need to have a third option. So 82 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 4: I'd like to see if Sam Hartman can do that, 83 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 4: and can he get the ball to a Ben Sinate, 84 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 4: Can he get the ball to a trailing Burks? Can 85 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 4: the offense move with Sam Hartman out there? Because we 86 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 4: saw what Josh Johnson could do last week, I don't 87 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: think we need to see more of what Josh Johnson 88 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: could do, though. You know, it's a nice story to 89 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 4: see him in the game and he can definitely get 90 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 4: guys involved. But I would like to see what Sam 91 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 4: Hartman's got. 92 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: That really is I think an interesting conversation, right, because 93 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: I know a lot on the Twitter sphere and in 94 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: the Commanders stand base, everyone really wanted to see Sam Hartman. 95 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: At least a lot of people did. And I understand why. 96 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: Right, this is the undrafted guy, and you brought him 97 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: in last year a lot of hype, and and he's 98 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: been in the system for a couple of years now. 99 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: He could potentially be the backup hanging in to the. 100 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: Rest of his career. So that is an interesting question. 101 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: We'll dive into more of that a minute, but ethan 102 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: same question as Siphon Vincent. Who else are the young 103 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: players would you want to see? 104 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna shift gears a little bit and go 105 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 5: with a guy who played a lot last year but 106 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 5: not so much this year in Brandon Coleman. I was 107 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 5: very intrigued to see how he held up at left 108 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 5: tackle with Jeremy Tunsel out and I thought he did 109 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 5: a really good job. Honestly, last year I thought he 110 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 5: was pretty good too. He had twelve starts, I believe, 111 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 5: and you know, it's kind of tough for a guy 112 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 5: when you draft him and he's your starting left tackle, 113 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 5: and then in the offseason you get Jeremie Tunsell. You're like, Okay, 114 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 5: you're gonna move him the right tackle, and then you 115 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 5: draft Josh Connerly a month later, and all of a sudden, 116 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 5: he gets bumped to left guard. 117 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: So it's been a. 118 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 5: Tough year for Coleman thus far, but I feel like 119 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,119 Speaker 5: he's kind of found his footing when he's been asked 120 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 5: to come in the past few weeks or so, and 121 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 5: then I thought he's played well in Tunsl's absence. So 122 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 5: I think against Philly he could put on some film 123 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 5: where it maybe questions, do we need to go extend 124 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 5: Tunsil or can we roll with this guy as our 125 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 5: younger left tackle? So I think he's one guy I 126 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 5: really have my eyes on. 127 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think that he is an interesting person 128 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: to really dive into as well, just because, like you, Mad, 129 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: he was a starter and then he moved bumps over 130 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: to guard and he think that's what he's gonna be. 131 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: But he the good thing is he has that experience. 132 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: But then Chris Paul comes along and he misses the 133 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 2: time Coleman misses the time in training camp. So yeah, well, 134 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: I'm I'm definitely interested in him now, Alex again on 135 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: on on on Hartman here, and I I hear you 136 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: on that, and I think, like, I think he definitely 137 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: is interesting. But also I would say at the same time, 138 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: like he's been the pack, the practice squad quarterback, and 139 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: I don't I have no idea how many reps he's 140 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: actually gotten in the system, this in the off offense, 141 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: and you know, iowaile, I do want to see what 142 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: Sam has. At some point I'll play Devil's I get 143 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 2: here and say, okay, like, is it, like like Cliff 144 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: Cakesberry said, is it fair to Sam to put him 145 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: in there when he haven't had that many reps? Or 146 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: are you saying, okay, we're just gonna go ahead and 147 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: he's on the active roster and I will elevate Sam 148 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 2: and just give him all the reps here, even though 149 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: it's still a limited amount of time. Like I just wonder, like, 150 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: how how will the offense function, you know, and be 151 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: will you be able to see more of the other 152 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: players than what they what you have going in If 153 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: Hartman doesn't really have as many reps as the Josh 154 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: Johnson or even a Marcus Mari if he's able to 155 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: somehow play well. 156 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: I almost wonder if they should let him, you know, 157 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: almost not obviously not treat it like a preseason game, 158 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 4: because you know, you want to go out and win 159 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 4: on an NFL Sunday in the regular season, but you know, 160 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: treat as a situation where you know, maybe Josh Johnson 161 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: plays the first half, let him get out there, see 162 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 4: what you got with Ben Sinnett and trailing Burkes and 163 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 4: Josh Johnson moving the ball with them, And then you know, 164 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 4: in the second half, why not put Sam Hartman? And 165 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 4: you know, I don't think they have anything to lose. 166 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: They've got time to get him reps this week if 167 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 4: they want to go that route. But at the end 168 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 4: of the day, you know, the big point that dan 169 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 4: Quinn made in the press conferences past week is is 170 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 4: that who starts at quarterback does have a big part 171 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 4: of you know, can this person help develop the other 172 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 4: guys around him? And I think probably the reason we 173 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 4: haven't seen Sam is maybe they don't think he can 174 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 4: fully develop those guys around him to the extent that 175 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 4: Josh Johnson can get those. 176 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: Guys the reps they need. 177 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: But I think if they can give Hartman a look 178 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 4: in practice if he's ready to go, I personally would 179 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 4: like to see him out there. 180 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it is worth pointing out because 181 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: he had a little bit of some ups and downs 182 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: in the preseason, but it's I think with the with 183 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: the shoulder surgery had in the off season, I think 184 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: that probably did have maybe a little bit of an 185 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: effect on him. 186 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: And we'll see. 187 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: I do like the idea though, maybe splitting it up 188 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 2: in terms of halfs and say. 189 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: Okay, go out there and show us what. 190 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: You have and if if if we like it, hey, 191 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: you're going to be in competition for the primary backs. 192 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: By if Marcus, who is going to be free aiden 193 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 2: this year, heads off into other pastors, he I think 194 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: he's done a lot of really good stuff this year 195 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: in these these spots, starts and everything. Now, Ethan, before 196 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: we move on, you mentioned Coleman, and you know, for me, 197 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: I have I have a hard time wondering, like, Okay, 198 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: where is he going to play? 199 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: Because I just I okay, I. 200 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: Think the Tunzel to me, I would want to keep 201 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: him for a long time, and that means he's going 202 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: to be left tackle for as long as he is here, 203 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: and that kind of leaves you right tackle. I don't 204 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: think he's going to go over with Connory, So at 205 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: leads you are really your two guard spots and you 206 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: have Cosmey, who is I think when he's healthy, he's 207 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: one of the better guards in the league. So I mean, 208 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: what's this perfect situation for you to see? Like because 209 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: I kind of let the witness there and say, well, 210 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: obviously he's got to play the guard, but like, is 211 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: there a case for him to play somewhere else on 212 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: the offensive line and say, okay, he's a permanent fixture 213 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: there going forward for you. 214 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think there is, which is kind of 215 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 5: a self It's a good problem to have because I 216 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 5: agree with you. I think Laramie Tunzel has been very good. 217 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 5: I personally would want to extend him as well. I mean, 218 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 5: Josh Connor, he's obviously had his ups and downs as 219 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 5: a rookie, but he's been better later than he was 220 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 5: earlier in the year. 221 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: And you don't. 222 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 5: Draft a guy in the first round to eventually kick 223 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 5: him into guard, unless it's Brandon Sheriff in twenty fifteen. 224 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: So with Coleman, it's. 225 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 5: Tough because I think he's played well at left tackle, 226 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 5: but I don't think he's as good as Tunsil. Do 227 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 5: I think he could eventually develop into being a good 228 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 5: left tackle. Sure, I think he definitely is a potential 229 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 5: left guard is where we all thought he would excel. 230 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 5: I mean, I remember during training camp there was a 231 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 5: lot of people saying he could be a Pro Bowl 232 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 5: caliber guard, and who knows exactly what happened with him 233 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 5: and Chris Paul and losing his job and all that. 234 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 5: I still think he could be a very good left guard, 235 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 5: but I also think Chris Paul's played decently in that spot, 236 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 5: so there is no perfect solution. I don't think you 237 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 5: draft this Coleman when you draft him to be a 238 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 5: swing tackle either, So it's tough. 239 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: I just want to see. 240 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 5: Him make the most of his opportunity and kind of 241 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 5: prove he is a starting offensive lineman in the NFL, 242 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 5: and from there you'll you have to find a way 243 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 5: to bet get your best five guys on the field. 244 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 3: And for Washington, it is it's good to have. 245 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 5: A luxury, because they don't really have too many luxuries 246 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 5: at any position at this point. 247 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: You know, one of my favorite quotes about an offensive 248 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: lineman is someone of the back when I was listening 249 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: to a lot of draft draft stuff, and I think 250 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: it was when Peters Gronsky was getting evaluated. 251 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: In everyone where he's whether he's a guard or tackle. 252 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 2: And someone once said he's good, they'll figure it out 253 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: where he needs to go from there. And I think 254 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: that's kind of what you're with with Pulman, right, like 255 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: you seed to have good offensive linemen and that that 256 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: I think the period that he had where he missed 257 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: in time in the off season really hampered his development 258 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,599 Speaker 2: at guard because it's not it's not always easy just 259 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: to go from tackle to guard. Even though there are 260 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: a lot of similarities there in terms of just regularly blocking, 261 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 2: like there are, the nuances of the positions are very different. 262 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 2: We'll move on here before we do that score date. 263 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: You guys are both tied two to two, both of 264 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: you guys. There good points about Hartman, like stuff about 265 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: switching up the halfs, like the stuff with Coleman. And 266 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 2: we're going to go on to the defense side of 267 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: the ball here, and like we've said, I think it's 268 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: it's been a disappointing year for the defense in a 269 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: lot of ways. They're bottom third at best and a 270 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: lot of the categories, and whether it's because of injuries 271 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: or whatever nebulous reason, it's it just hasn't been what 272 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: we've expected it to be. And I think it's just 273 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: not for their standard, I think, and I think anyone 274 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: on defense and the coaching staff would would probably tell 275 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: you that. 276 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: So my question to you guys is. 277 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: In the obviously the Eagles are we don't know how 278 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 2: the Egle are going to approach that game. They've already 279 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: locked the division. They might try to get some seating, 280 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: they might try to bench their starters, but either way, 281 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: no matter who's out there, I want to know for you, 282 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: both of you guys, what do you want to see 283 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 2: out of that group in we can that that can 284 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: make you say, Okay, that's something to build on heading 285 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: into the off season and into training camp and into 286 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. So Ethan will start with you on 287 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: this one. 288 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 3: I would say just the energy level. 289 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 5: I want to see a group that shows some fight, 290 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 5: hasn't checked out. One thing that we've heard a lot 291 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 5: this year, through the losing streaks and the downs, is 292 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 5: the locker room. We're still tight as ever. Brotherhood. Dan 293 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 5: Quinn hasn't lost the locker room all that I want 294 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 5: them to go out there and prove it that in 295 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 5: another game that largely doesn't have too much of an 296 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 5: impact on the future outside of maybe draft position. I 297 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 5: want to see these guys fight and kind of it's 298 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 5: a division game. Dan Quinn's pegged it as the divisional tournament. 299 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 5: You won the first game, you've dropped the last two. 300 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 5: Let's see if you can end the season on a 301 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 5: high note and kind of just have these young guys take. 302 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 3: Advantage of bigger roles. 303 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 5: Maybe Jordan McGee flashes a little bit more, some of 304 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 5: these younger guys get in and really just end the 305 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 5: season that's been a like one everyone in the locker 306 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 5: room wants to move on from ended on a high 307 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 5: note where you can be closer to the twenty twenty 308 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 5: four team than you were the twenty twenty five team 309 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty six. 310 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I think it's at points there 311 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 2: have been moments since the buy where you definitely can 312 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 2: see that this team, at least on the defense, is 313 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: playing with a lot like playing with the same amount 314 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: of energy, and they're not giving up on the season. 315 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: What I think is for sure very I think that's 316 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: very strong comment to the coaching staff because they could 317 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: easily everyone could ease as big. I, well, we're clearly 318 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: out of it. It's not the same as it was 319 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: last year. Let's just kind of, you know, cash it 320 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: in for the for the rest of the year. But 321 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: they haven't done that. So Alex, the same question to you, 322 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: what do you want to see out of this defense 323 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: against the Eagles? They'll make you give you a lot 324 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: of confidence heading into the next five or six months 325 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: or so. 326 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I think there's kind of two things that 327 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 4: go hand in hand for me. You know, even last 328 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 4: year with all the success, the team wasn't great at 329 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 4: forcing turnovers. They think they were just a little bit 330 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: better at taking care of the ball on offense. A 331 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 4: lot better taking care of the ball on offense. So 332 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 4: I would like to see this defense actually come out 333 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: and we've seen it in spurts this year at a 334 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 4: few different points, but come out and generate turnovers, get 335 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 4: that pressure on the quarterback, force him into mistakes, you know, 336 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 4: force fumbles out there, and you know, and with that, 337 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 4: i'd like to see the secondary step up. I think 338 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 4: we like same thing. We've seen flashes from them, but 339 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 4: I think this hasn't been the year that Mikey Samus still. 340 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 3: Was hoping for. 341 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 4: This hasn't been the year that Kwan Martin was hoping for. 342 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 4: You know, will Harris dealt with his injury. I'd like 343 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 4: to see this secondary and the season on a positive note. 344 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 4: Maybe in the theme of young guys, maybe Tyler Owens 345 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 4: gets in there and makes some plays as well. So 346 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: I would just like to see the secondary kind of right, 347 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 4: some of the wrongs from this year, force some turnovers, 348 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 4: get some confidence, and carry that into next season. 349 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: I think the turnovers is a really good point, just 350 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: because it really does. It seems like this has been 351 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: the point that they've really driven home for the last 352 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: couple of years, and it hasn't consistently hit I don't 353 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: think the way they would want it to. And I 354 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: mean you can see, like I mean, the turnover Margini 355 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: is not what it was last year, and I think 356 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: I personally would like to see more of the of 357 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: those turnovers and now how they how they generate it, 358 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: like that's going to be another question, but I think 359 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: it has I think. 360 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: Clearly like that has to be better. 361 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: So even you know, I wanted to have it a 362 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: little bit more into personnel here, and you know, you 363 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: mentioned Jordan McGee, and I think that's I think that's 364 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: very interesting. And I mean, obviously Bobby Widner is a 365 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: guy who is you know, the star of that defense 366 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: for for you know, in terms of experience, in terms 367 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: of what he's been able to produce tackles given his 368 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: age and experience and all that other stuff. But kind 369 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: of going back to the younger player stuff here and now, 370 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: this has kind of been a conversation about how much 371 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: is Jordan bigee your air parent in a lot of 372 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: ways during the Mike Weiinbecker and carrying the green dot 373 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 2: and all that other stuff, like would you like to 374 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 2: see Jordan maybe have a bigger role on the defense 375 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: for this week just to see how it goes, if 376 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 2: he can run the defense add a more effective clip 377 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: than you know, maybe it has been earlier points in 378 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: the year. 379 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. I mean, what do you have to 380 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 3: lose at this point. 381 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 5: That's kind of the the attitude I'm taking with this game. 382 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 5: I mean, for the future outlook, like I was saying earlier, 383 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 5: it doesn't really matter too much to the commanders, but 384 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 5: for the Eagles as well, like who knows how the 385 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 5: seating is all gonna go down, but I'm sure if 386 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 5: they're not playing for much, which I've got a double check, 387 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 5: they're gonna be playing some of their deaf players as well. 388 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 5: So I would love to see what Jordan McGee can do. 389 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 5: I mean, we know what Bobby Wagner can do. He's 390 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 5: a future Hall of Famer. He's been great last year, 391 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 5: he was pretty good this year. Obviously had his woes 392 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 5: and coverage, but he does everything else still at a 393 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 5: very high clip. I would love to see what Jordan 394 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 5: McGee can do with the green dot on his helmet. 395 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 5: And I also think if he were to be given 396 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 5: that opportunity, Bobby Wagner would be the best person to 397 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 5: kind of mentor and teach him and be there. 398 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: By their side. 399 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 5: I would also say I think there's a world where 400 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 5: both of them are on the field at the same time, 401 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 5: along with Louvu. I don't see any issue with playing 402 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 5: three backers at once, especially if you're gonna maybe roll 403 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 5: with three guys up front and play Nickel have five 404 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 5: dbs as well. I think there's some things you can 405 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 5: do to get both of them on the field at 406 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 5: the same time. While also allowing McGee to have a 407 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 5: bigger role than what he's had because let's face it, 408 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 5: I mean, Wagner is not going to be here forever. 409 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 5: He's thirty five, he turns thirty six in June. McGee's 410 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 5: a year two. So that's a guy dan Quinn has 411 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 5: pointed out said he really likes if he's the guy 412 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 5: that you want to kind of be the heir apparent. 413 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 5: Like you said, there's no better opportunity to kind of 414 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 5: give him the give him a chance right now in 415 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 5: a game where for the overall future it doesn't mean 416 00:18:58,720 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 5: too much. 417 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I hear you on the wider stuff, because 418 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 2: you're right, I mean, he's not He's not as many 419 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: twenties right now, and we don't know how long he'll 420 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: be here. You know, he's another free agent this coming 421 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 2: of this year, and maybe he resigns with the team, 422 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 2: maybe he does it either way like that, it won't be. 423 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: A long term deal for sure. 424 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: And I think you really want to see for me 425 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 2: like what Jordan has, because they were very high on 426 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: him heading into I mean he was getting starting reps 427 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: as a rookie in training camp and then with the 428 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: injury he had that kind of vest things up, but 429 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: I am interested to see what he can do and Alex, 430 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: so we'll switch there every going to the secondary here, 431 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 2: And you mentioned the turnover stuff, which I think is good, 432 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: But I think the secondary, I think based on how 433 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: they've been able to allow a lot a lot of 434 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: explosive plays and the depth there, and I think that 435 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: position will probably need They're probably gonna address that position. 436 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: One way or the other next year. 437 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 2: And I'm curious for you, like what do you want 438 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 2: to see out of that group? I mean, yes, the 439 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: turnovers are there, but like do we do we maybe 440 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: want to see if we have a solid answer on 441 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 2: what Mike Sanderso is going to be do we like 442 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: and do we have any answer terms like what they 443 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: want in terms of depth? Like what do you want 444 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: to see out of that group head against a receiving 445 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: Corgan's Eagles, which could be you know, if they're playing 446 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: if they're playing ad Brian DeVante Smith, it's gonna be interesting. 447 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: But if not, like it's still a solid solid offense there. 448 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 4: Well, to me, it just seems like this secondary has 449 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 4: had an issue, as you mentioned, with giving a big 450 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 4: plays and I would like to see them show that 451 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 4: they can stop that from happening. You know, even for instance, 452 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 4: the Chargers game, a game they won. Lad McConkey hadn't 453 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 4: done much at that point in the season and came 454 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: out and was able to get you know, have a 455 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 4: good game against the Commanders or at least at that point, 456 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 4: the best game you had until that point. And I 457 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 4: know that this is a unit that's gone through some adversity. 458 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 4: But you know, we've seen Revo out there, We've seen 459 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 4: Will Harris, you know, Noah Iyas stepped up. You know, 460 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 4: Anthony Hurst, excuse me, Antonio Hamilton senior stepped up. Jonathan 461 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 4: Jones has made plays when he's been able to see 462 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 4: the field. But what I would like to see is, 463 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 4: you know, for them to have cohesion as a unit, 464 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 4: for them to stay on their assignments, whether you know 465 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 4: they're in zone or they're playing man on a play. 466 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 4: But I think they just need to be able to 467 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 4: go out there and lock down these opposing offenses because 468 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 4: it's a big liability for this team when you're gonna 469 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 4: face potentially a J. Brown and Devonte Smith and they 470 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 4: have that big threat, big playability, and your defense has 471 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 4: to be prepared to stop that, and you know that's 472 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 4: not going to change the NFC East. You're going to 473 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 4: be facing those guys. You're facing Pickens and Lamb, You're 474 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 4: gonna be facing Malik Neighbors and Wandelle Robinson, and you 475 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 4: have to be ready for all all these situations. So 476 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 4: I think this secondary kind of has to figure out 477 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 4: what is their identity, So like, where's Mike Stammer still 478 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: going to play? But where are the rest of these guys. 479 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 3: Going to play? 480 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 4: What are the roles of all these guys, and what 481 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: do they need going into the off season. I think 482 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 4: if they can establish a better idea of all of 483 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 4: that in this game, and I know it's just one 484 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 4: small game to do that, but maybe they can at 485 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 4: least make some progress on that front. 486 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 2: I mean, you're right, these these top flight receivers in 487 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 2: the NFCS, they're not going anywhere. They're all signed to 488 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: some pretty long term contracts, and I mean that's one 489 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: of the reasons why they went out and traded for 490 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: Marshall Lattimore and they drafted Trey Emos and all this 491 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: other stuff. And obviously they would want it to have 492 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: go on very differently, but the reality is that it 493 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: just hasn't and they just need to go back to 494 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: the drying board in a lot of ways, whether it's 495 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 2: personnel or scheme or something like that. And I think 496 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: I think it's pretty safe to say that the changes 497 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: will be coming at some point this off season. We'll 498 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: move on to the last question here before we do 499 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: that score update, Alex, who were up five to four 500 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 2: over Ethan. It's going to be a tight end battle 501 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: here for the last question and the last win of 502 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 2: the podcast. 503 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: And obviously this is the time of. 504 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: New Year's Resolution, this New Year's New beginnings, all this 505 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 2: other great stuff, and I think the commanders have a 506 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: long list of things that they need that they would 507 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: like to improve on heading into this offseason, whether it's offense. 508 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: Defense, either way. If you had to give them one 509 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: New Year's resolution, what would you want it to be? Alex? 510 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: Since you are head, you will start first. 511 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 4: I think there's one New Year's resolution. 512 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 3: It's simple. 513 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 4: It's do what you have to do to get back 514 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 4: in the playoffs. And I know that that's very general, 515 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 4: but this team was a win away from the super. 516 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 3: Bowl last year. 517 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,959 Speaker 4: It's obvious that this season isn't what they wanted. It's 518 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 4: not what was expected either, and I think it's that 519 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 4: and I think the key to doing that is staying healthy, 520 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 4: right putting guys Obviously a lot of it was out 521 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 4: of their control this year, but going into next year, 522 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 4: you know, make sure these guys are taking care of 523 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 4: their bodies. Whatever small margins this team can do to 524 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 4: prepare them for next season. You know, let everybody recuperate 525 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: in the offseason, get into good training programs, bring in 526 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 4: some good depth, you know, strengthen the spots that you 527 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 4: need to strengthen. But do whatever you have to do 528 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 4: to next time this year, have us not be talking 529 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 4: about the season being over right now and being getting 530 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 4: ready for the playoffs. 531 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: I am very fascinated to see what de Q's going 532 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 2: to be cooking up this offseason, because he's been very blunt. 533 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: You know, he's obviously not going to say exactly what 534 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: those plans are going to be this offseason yet, but 535 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: he has said, look, changes are going to come. And 536 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: I think the good thing about DQ is that he's 537 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: he seems like he's a very self war person, and 538 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 2: I believe him when he says that the changes are coming. 539 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: And I'm that's one of the many reasons. Like I said, 540 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: it's going to be very interesting offseason. Ethan same question, 541 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 2: New Year's resolution, what's one that you have all the 542 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: Commanders this offseason. 543 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, So for normal people that have New Year's resolutions, one. 544 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 3: Of the most common overused cliches is new year, New me. 545 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 5: I'm gonna take this overused cliche and somewhat applied to 546 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 5: the Commanders. I think when they arrive to the offseason 547 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 5: program this spring, it's going to be flush and forget. 548 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 5: This team is a lot better when they're healthy than 549 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 5: what they showed on the field this year. In twenty 550 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 5: twenty five, this past offseason, it felt like everything was 551 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 5: building off of that great twenty twenty four season, but 552 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 5: the reality is it wasn't the same team. 553 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 3: It's a new team with some new personnel. And yeah, the. 554 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 5: Expectations were sky high because of what they did last year, 555 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 5: but it's a new team. 556 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: Every year is a new team. 557 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 5: I mean, we see every year there's a team that 558 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 5: goes from last to first in their division. 559 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 3: The Bears just did it. Every year in the NFL 560 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 3: is new. 561 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 5: So my New Year's resolution for the Commanders would be 562 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 5: when they show up to begin the twenty twenty sixth 563 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 5: season to flush and forget everything that went wrong this year, 564 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 5: the injuries, the tough losses, the losing streak, forget all 565 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 5: about it because it's in the past. 566 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 3: It can't change. Show up. 567 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 5: You're not gonna have the huge expectations on your shoulders 568 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 5: that you have to live up to this year. Maybe 569 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 5: you can fly under the radar a little bit, kind 570 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 5: of like the Niners did this year, and then all 571 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 5: of a sudden at the end of next year, who 572 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 5: you could be like the Niners in twelve and four and. 573 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: In the race for the one seed. 574 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be good for this team that 575 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 5: they're not gonna have to hear how great they are 576 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 5: all off season like they did last year. And I 577 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 5: think there's gonna be a lot of guys coming in 578 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 5: with a chip on your shoulder, starting with the starting 579 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 5: quarterback who missed over half of the year with injuries. 580 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: So I think there's this group's gonna be plenty motivated. 581 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 5: But I think if they are able to flush all 582 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 5: the bad that happened this year, it'll be a lot 583 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 5: easier to move on and have a fresh, clean slate 584 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 5: extra year. 585 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: It is really hard to evaluate this season sometimes because 586 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: the the injuries have been so critical that it's hard. 587 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: To really say what exactly what this team is right now. 588 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: But I think either way, I think the I think 589 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: the main point is that they are there are things besides. 590 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: The injuries that will need to be fixed. 591 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: And again I think a lot of I think the 592 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: players and coaches would say that they can't display injuries 593 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: for for for the losses, Like, there's been a few 594 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: close ones there that could have won a lot of 595 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 2: games that they lost. I mean the Broncos game for example, 596 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 2: the Bears. I mean there there's been other close matchups 597 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: that I mean, shoot, even the Cowboys game on Christmas, 598 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: Like there's they had they were in those games and 599 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 2: they were They've been all banged up with injuries and 600 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: they still managed to to lose for what for various reasons. 601 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 2: So winners, man, this is gonna be tough. Both you 602 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 2: guys really brought it like you did earlier in the year, 603 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 2: and I think because of the flush and forget mentality thing, 604 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: I think I have to go with Ethan on the 605 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: win here. 606 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: Came back from one point down. 607 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 2: And I think I think it's a good attitude to 608 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: have hangyo this offseason. 609 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: So Ethan, you take the win, how do you feel 610 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: about it? 611 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 3: I feel great. I think it's my first win ever 612 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 3: on the show. 613 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 5: I think Flum was previously two and oh against me, 614 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 5: So it's nice to nice to get in the win column. 615 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 3: I still got another to even it up, but appreciate the. 616 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: Points, yeah for sure. 617 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, like both of you guys have been on the 618 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: podcast multiple times than both of you. 619 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: Guys have have really done great jobs. 620 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: And again, you know, I thank you guys, you guys 621 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 2: for doing it, for being in the pot, especially during 622 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: this weird like this ten day period between like Christmas 623 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: and like in New Year's Day and like January fourth, 624 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: so it was always so weird. So I really appreciate 625 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 2: you guys taking times out of your your schedules and 626 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: and and coming on the pot and helping me out 627 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: and playing around. And I appreciate everyone else has been 628 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: on the podcast. It's but everyone who's listening, it's been 629 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: it's been a great you know, obviously the season has 630 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: not been great, but I appreciate you guys hanging in 631 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: there and sticking with me. 632 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: So, guys, everyone. 633 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: Who's been listening, please write for you subscriber to ever 634 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: get your podcast. So we will be back next year 635 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: with hopefully a lot more good, positive things to talk about, 636 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: but until then this has been the beat Down