1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: with our radio guys. Fourth almost Famous podcast this week, 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: and it is like the finale of them all, and 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: it's big because Clayton and Susie are both here. Welcome 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: back to the pod. Clayton, we appreciate you coming back 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: after last week's difficult interview, and Susie, thanks for being here. 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: You're You're so cute. I love you. Alright, Well, let's 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: start out with some a little more does the tough questions? 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: How rough was last week for your relationship? Last last 10 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: night last week you had to watch that that episode back. Yeah, well, 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: it's been tough for both of us emotionally. It's a 12 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: really heavy two episodes this week, and even the week 13 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: before it was heavy. So um it, Yeah, it's been tough, 14 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: I think individually, but we've said this so many times. 15 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: I can't imagine not having Clayton through this, and I 16 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: think vice versa. We're just glad that we've found ways 17 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: to support each other even when it was hard. When 18 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: you watched that scene back last week, did you at all, 19 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: like feel differently about the verbage that was used, the 20 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: tone that you guys used with each other, um or 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: was it kind of how you remembered it and it 22 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: was something that you had already gotten over. Well, I 23 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: don't know that I would say, this is gonna sound 24 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: like a silly example. I told it to you though. 25 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: When I was a little kid, my mom hammered a 26 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: nail into a piece of wood and then pulled it out, 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: and she said, you know, when you use words that 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: hurt people, you do damage. And you can pull the 29 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: harsh words back, you can say you're sorry, but like 30 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: the pain is still there. You can see the hole 31 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: in the wood still. And like I told that example 32 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: to Clayton because I was like, that's something that it 33 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: It still rings true to me. And I was like, 34 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: even though we got through that night, and honestly, context 35 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: is everything, and I didn't have context until after the 36 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: show for a lot of that um And so you know, 37 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: I see, I certainly see his perspective in a lot 38 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: of ways, um from that night, and I even understand 39 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: why that uh switch flipped and everything. But um, yeah, 40 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: I mean it's yeah, it's like an old wound. It 41 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: hurt like it hurt when it happened, and to watch 42 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: it back, it was incredibly sad and not just for myself, 43 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: but like I could see, like on Clayton's face, a 44 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: devastation when he realized he was losing me. Um, it 45 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: was just a really it was a sad episode. But um, 46 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: the good news is that we are four months past 47 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: it and like as tough as this week has been 48 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: to rewatch the episodes, we have had a really good 49 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: time and we have had moments of joy in between, 50 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: like the tough stuff. Clayton, how was it watching Susie 51 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: break up with you on TV the sleek? You know? 52 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: I again, like I lived it real time four months ago, 53 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: and so to watch it back, Ah, it's weird. It does. 54 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: It does certainly bring back some emotion, but again I 55 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: think I'm someone who once I go through it, We've 56 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: had so much time we've talked it through. Uh we 57 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: re re really did relive those moments already so many times. 58 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: We've talked about it more than well when we talked 59 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: about as much as we needed to, and so I 60 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: already knew and we talked about it. It's countless time. 61 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: So to see it again, Um, it brought back a 62 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: little bit of emotion, but again I just looked at 63 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: the full picture. The end result, which I said, you know, okay, 64 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: like this is tough to see, but we're together, so, UM, 65 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: I don't want this to impact us in a way 66 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: that's negative, that hurts our relationship in this moment. Some 67 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: Bachelor couples, um, I haven't watched their season back because 68 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: they thought it was healthier to do that. Um. Do 69 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: you guys think it was better for you to watch it? Um? Yes, 70 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: and no, I've said that at times it was better 71 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: for me to be distracted and I would be watching 72 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: with my girlfriends and everyone's kind of talking out loud, 73 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: and I don't go back and rewatch those episodes by 74 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: myself because I'm like, I don't need to. Yeah, I 75 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: don't necessarily need to hear everything and over analyze everything, 76 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: so aspects of it are good to just like, Yeah, 77 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: I've had fun, I've made light and you know, enjoyed 78 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: watching it when I can. But I've tried not to 79 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: harp on it too much because it is an interpretation of, 80 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: uh what happened, because you know, you can't fit everything 81 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: into two hours, so it's the highlights, you know, what 82 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: about for you? I guess I mean I again, was 83 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: just I wanted to know whatever it took is She's like, 84 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to watch I don't want to talk 85 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: about it, and we won't. I did, obviously think when 86 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: we both talked it all the way through. So as 87 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: far as watching it, it's like she are toy knew 88 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: it was coming, um and at that point it's like, hey, 89 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: do you want to watch this together or do you not? 90 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: And um. And when we were together we would watch it, 91 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: and I think it just fostered more conversation. It answered 92 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: more questions that maybe we hadn't talked about, uh, and 93 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: it led to a greater understanding of who we were 94 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: uh then and and you know where we can go 95 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: going forward as a couple, just learning more about each other. 96 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: So there was I think we tried to find the 97 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: positives as much as we could throughout it all, and 98 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: watching it back certainly shed more light on maybe some 99 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: of the things that we hadn't discussed. Susie, I've got 100 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: to know to hurdles that everybody's asking how you got 101 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: over them? First? How did you get over him saying 102 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: I love you to multiple women and sleeping with the 103 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: other women when you said that wasn't basically a deal breaker? 104 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: And then Secondly, how did you get over how did 105 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: you get from I guess saying like you're not my 106 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: person to him being your boyfriend? Yeah? Uh um, well, 107 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: it's it's it's tricky because you can never know what's 108 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: going on inside. Someone said Clayton didn't know that night 109 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: when we were speaking, and I was like, I hear you, 110 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: I understand you. I really did, and I was like, 111 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: my mind was kind of blown because if there's one 112 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: thing I know to be true, it's that Clayton is 113 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: an honest man, and I knew, like he was telling 114 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: me the complete truth that night, that he did have 115 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: love for these women, and at the time, he really 116 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: did believe that he was in love with all three 117 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: of us. And in that like that night, I kind 118 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: of came to this realization of like, this was not 119 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: necessarily a disregard from my love, this was like in 120 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: regard for his love with them. And um, I've shared 121 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: this a couple of times, but post show, Clayton and 122 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: I have sat down with our journals and we have 123 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: just literally read from the pages to each other what 124 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: was going through our minds, where we were at, where 125 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: our hearts were at. And although Clayton did say that night, Um, 126 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: I love you the most. In my mind, I'm like, 127 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: if you love me the most, and how could you 128 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: jeopardize this? But he I mean in his journal and 129 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: in his true to his experience, he hadn't made his 130 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: mind up. I think there's a difference between feeling and 131 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: love and then compatibility. Um. You know, it's not just 132 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: about a feeling, it's about action. It's about a choice, 133 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people know that. Um, 134 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, in fantasy sweets like this isn't the first 135 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: time that a bachelor has told people that he's loved 136 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: them or become intimate with them. And for me, I 137 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: did feel like it was a deal breaker because I 138 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: didn't believe Clayton could be in love with me and 139 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: somebody else. I couldn't wrap my head around it. Um 140 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: so going you know, yeah, in Iceland, I had to 141 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: break things off at the end. I just it was 142 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: what was best for me and I did feel a 143 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: little selfish in the moment, but now looking back, like, 144 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: I have no regrets. I stand by that decision. We 145 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: did have to take time apart, and we also had 146 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: to heal from what happened. There was a lot of 147 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: pain that happened in Iceland, not just with us, but 148 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: with Gabby and Rachel, and you did have serious relationships 149 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: with them, and you did have an emotional attachment to 150 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: these women while you were in Iceland, and um, we did. 151 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: We took a step back, and I think that's why 152 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: I've gotten you know, we're here today. He's my boyfriend, 153 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm his girlfriend because we didn't just like I didn't 154 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: just accept the rose and say okay, like I'm gonna try, 155 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna see like and then feel this pressure from 156 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: the world, from myself, from everybody to stick with them 157 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: through the end, like we were at the show last 158 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: night together because we wanted to be so Um, I 159 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: just had to do what was best for me. And 160 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: I think that led me back to Clayton when I 161 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: was trying to you know, um, because like I was 162 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: trying to describe my feelings about it last night, and 163 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: I was like, it would be so hypocritical of me 164 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: and not to understand this because Jared and I went 165 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: through the same thing, like I literally in Bachelor in 166 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: Paradise was like, so, you're telling me there's no chance 167 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: we're ever going to be together and he said no, 168 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: and for him, it was like he had to like 169 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: cut it off cleanly, like he had to kind of 170 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: give me no hope in order for like it to 171 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: go forward. I don't. I can't really Again, I'm still 172 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: struggling to describe why it works best that way. But 173 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: he was like, I wasn't going to be half in 174 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: half out. I knew that if we were ever going 175 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: to date, and he always says that, so we were 176 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: ever going to date, I had to be in. I 177 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: basically had to know what I made you my girlfriend 178 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: that I was going to be down to like do 179 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: it all. Yeah, So that, yeah, I relate to that. 180 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: I actually didn't know that about you guys, So that 181 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: does it. It's refreshing to hear. And I think it's 182 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: really confusing for people and they're like, you, I had 183 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: no chance. It was very accusing for him, but I 184 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: was like yeah, I mean, and when I did reach out, 185 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: I didn't have the intentions of just restarting a relationship. Um. 186 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: I was like, let's have one candid conversation, let's let's talk, 187 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: and we rebuilt from there. But it wasn't. Um, yeah, 188 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: I mean I had so many questions. You had questions, 189 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: we had a lot too to navigate before we even 190 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: considered becoming a couple again. So yeah, I really am. 191 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm actually like, it's so refreshing to hear that from 192 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: you because I didn't know that, And yeah, it makes 193 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: it makes total sense for me. I had to give 194 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: him that, like it's a no, so we can go 195 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: separate and if we find our way back to each other, 196 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: that's great. Yeah. Yeah, I kind of look at it 197 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: like I believe I don't want to call it a tactic. 198 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: With that thought process I think is rooted in respect 199 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: for that other person. So you do this because you say, 200 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to like while I figure this out where 201 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm at mentally, I don't want to hold do you 202 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: hear waiting and the and the thicket things like I 203 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: want you to be able to move on and then 204 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: if it's and if you like, I don't want you 205 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: to sit here and wait. So that's the way I 206 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: saw it. That's exactly the way that he saw it. 207 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: It was just so funny me saying, like, how did 208 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: she go from saying he's not her person to her boyfriend? 209 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: I was like, actley, he is you experienced the exact 210 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: same thing, so you know, it's very much possible, and 211 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: it still means that person can really love and care 212 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: for the other person. A lot of people are asking Suozie, 213 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: why didn't you tell him about your wishes about him 214 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: not sleeping with anybody in the fantasy suite? And you 215 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: kind of like answered that. I think you said, like 216 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: you didn't want to give him an ultimatum. Is there 217 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: anything else that you can elaborate on there? Yeah, I think. Well, 218 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: one of the first seasons I ever watched was Peter's season, 219 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: and like Maddie, first of all, so much respect for 220 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: her because she did upfront sit her expectations. She did 221 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: get a lot of um I feel like hate and criticism, 222 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: and I remember seeing that and and being like, I 223 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: think it's great that she was upfront about her expectations 224 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: and her needs. Um. But I also remember like it 225 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: being such a highly criticized thing, and I actually regret 226 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: letting that influence that decision, which I've said it before, 227 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: like when you're when you're there, things move so fast. 228 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: There's not like an ideal time because you don't have 229 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: another date before Fantasy suitets where it's just you and him, 230 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: So you figure out that you're going to fantasy sweets 231 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: and then you're in fantasy suits and then you're the 232 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: third fantasy suite and it's like, how do you how 233 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: do you know when to bring that up? And yeah, 234 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: and I also, yeah, I think that it was a 235 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: mixture of everything. I didn't know that I that I should. 236 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: And I thought, if Clayton loves me, and I want 237 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: him to know, like I want him to know if 238 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: it's me, and if it's not me, then I'm going 239 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: to respect that. I'm going to be happy for him. 240 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: But I couldn't fathom a world where it was me 241 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: and he was like also in love with somebody else, 242 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: or that it even if you didn't know if it 243 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: was me, Like, yeah, it was a lot to grasp 244 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: and it was a lot for you too. We were 245 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: both I think everyone at the end, we were all 246 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: pretty confused. Like in general, it was just it was 247 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: just a lot. It was heavy. Yeah, it's actually really 248 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: interesting that you say that, because this is something that 249 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: you're saying watching a prior show influenced like your decision making. 250 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: I have the big critique that I took was that 251 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: this guy didn't watch any shows coming in, And my 252 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: thought was like, well, I don't want to be influenced 253 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: by something that causes me to react differently. So it's 254 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: but had I have watched some things, I'm sure it 255 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: could have benefited me, But you always now you can 256 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: see like you can watch it and it can actually 257 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: play against you as well. So it's tough. I mean, 258 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: there's so much that goes into it's such a complex 259 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: process that you just again you're dealing with individuals that 260 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: they're different from every other season. So at the end 261 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: of the day, all different personalities, different environments, and it's 262 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I don't. I think you just have 263 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: to react as you go. A lot of times, Clayton, 264 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: There's been a couple of conversations that I've had over 265 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: the past couple of days where people are like he 266 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: he like had um he made some maybe poor decisions, 267 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: but that's probably because he didn't go through the entire 268 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: process before. Do you think that it would have benefited 269 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: you to have gotten further in Michelle's season, or even 270 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: just to have watched previous Bachelor seasons. Yeah, well I 271 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: kind of alluded to that. That's why I bring it 272 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: up now. Yeah, Yeah, I I don't. I just don't know. 273 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: I think it's at the end of the day, had 274 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: I had had more information, would I have maybe held 275 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: back in other areas or maybe had said something differently 276 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: that may have potentially had a negative impact on my experience. Obviously, 277 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: as we watched this all back now or have watched 278 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: it all, everyone's I think, that's a lot of people 279 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: saying this dude literally could do not right. Um, he 280 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: just did everything wrong. And I think at the end 281 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: of the day, I sit here and I tell mysel 282 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: so if the reason why I can forgive myself for 283 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: my actions was because I did everything with the best 284 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: intentions in mind and really following my heart and doing 285 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: what I thought was best with no malicious intent, and 286 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: so I can live at the end of the day 287 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: with myself knowing that I just did what I thought 288 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: was best with my intuition and following that. I don't know, 289 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's like, what if 290 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: I would have went farther, would have made a difference. 291 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I can say this much. It 292 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: would have absolutely have made a difference, for for better 293 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: or for worse. I I really can't answer that. I 294 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: don't know. I definitely feel like I were going to 295 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: keep my own opinion on this. Nothing you did seem 296 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: to come from a state of malice, like you say. 297 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it just came from inexperience 298 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: and just having not gone through a ton of the 299 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: experience prior. But again, this is just I mean, that's fair, honestly. Yeah, 300 00:15:51,280 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: I totally understand that that stamp that viewpoint. Yeah, why 301 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: did you break up with both girls together? And why 302 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: did you uh stand up there at that podium and 303 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: tell them that you's that Susie was gone, and that 304 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: you had slept with both of them and you were 305 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: in love with both of them at the same time. 306 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: I think that's the problem that a lot of people have, 307 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: is that you did both of those things in like 308 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: a group setting. Yeah, so obviously I did that twice 309 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: where I broke up with them I guess or sorry, 310 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: relayed information to them, and then broke up with them 311 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: together on a separate occasion. I based my second time 312 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: doing it again as a group based off of the 313 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: first time. The response for like, they kind of consoled 314 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: each other at the I'll just call it the road 315 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: CEREMONI from from how because that's what I keep saying. 316 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: So I simplified. Yeah, all right. Um so I saw 317 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: them console each other in that environment and thought, okay, 318 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: like then when I break up with the two of them, 319 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: like they'll canstole each other and this will it will 320 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: be a lot easier on those two. With as challenging 321 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: as it says, that was my thought. Right, Obviously I 322 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: should have done it separate. I agree. I look back 323 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I should applably to pull them both 324 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: aside separately. Um. As far as why they were the 325 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: first at the Rose Smart Rose ceremony, why I told 326 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: them that information? Uh, because to me, I look at 327 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: it like, no relationship can last if you have if 328 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: you don't have full transparency, if you build a relationship 329 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: on the better lies or half truths, it won't last. 330 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: And here's the thing, common sense, everything I did was 331 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: on camera. So if I didn't tell them that day 332 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: and I just went on my merry way and through 333 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: the through that process, let's say that, um, I hypothetically 334 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: end up with one of those two. Um, they were 335 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: going to watch that show you know, this season back 336 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: four months later and I was going to have to 337 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: answer to all those actions. So common sense was like, 338 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: you gotta tell them what happened right, like, it's out there, um. 339 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: And I had every intention of obviously being fully transparent 340 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: because that's just who I am. I am a little 341 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: bit some some has maybe too blunt, but I think 342 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: for me, I'm like, if you tell someone everything, um, 343 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: then there's no there's no secrets and you have you 344 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: don't have to ever worry about those secrets coming back 345 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 1: and potentially ending a relationship. And I see a lot 346 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: of issues with my friends and or people that I 347 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: know where they hold back on communicating and that ends 348 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: up actually destroying the relationship. So I just believe in transparency, really, 349 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: I really do, no matter how hard it is to 350 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: say it. Okay, well, you guys have done a great 351 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: job answering my hard questions. Let's light it up for 352 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. We like a couple of minutes with 353 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: you guys. How was the reconnection, so Susie you reached 354 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: out to him, I'm assuming via d M on Instagram. 355 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: Yeah alright, alright, so Clinton, when you saw her in 356 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: your inbox, like, did your heart drop? Were you excited? 357 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: Were you nervous? Like what? I hadn't even really had 358 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: time to like process it's because it was like, I 359 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: guess a day later, so I just remember me a 360 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: day later from the end from the end of the show. Wait, 361 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: you've reached out to that fast. Yeah, oh my god, 362 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: you gave it like a jay Sin's breaking up with him. Yeah. Okay, okay, 363 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: so tell me about everything. I should preface. I should 364 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: preface like I've been saying this, but like my intentions 365 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: were not like, okay, let's restart a relationship. But I 366 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: said my d M said, if you're open to having 367 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: one more candid conversation, I would love to have that 368 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: with you. But I also was like, I'll respect your 369 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: boundaries if you don't care to have that conversation. But 370 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: that conversation made the world of difference. And yeah, and 371 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: I think that's again. She made it very obvious that, hey, listen, 372 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: um I just wanted to check in with you because 373 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: I care about you as a person after what we 374 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: just went through. Uh. And we talked and I want 375 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: to say, probably about a week or two end, after 376 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: probably six conversations lasting at least three hours apiece, um 377 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: I said, listen, like, I feel like we should meet 378 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: up and the just see, like what happens if we 379 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: spend a weekend together. Uh, let's just see, like no 380 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: expectations whatsoever, but let's just meet up and see if 381 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: this sparks anything or if this makes us want to 382 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: pursue this further, because I did. I actually brought up 383 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 1: to at one point I said, listen, I go, I 384 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: really love that, like you do care about me and 385 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: that you really are checking in with me, But like this, 386 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: I I can't help it. Now kind of I'm starting 387 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: to regain some hope. Like I said, I'm like, we're 388 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: just talking candidly, but now I'm starting to kind of 389 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: feel like is there something here? So I just kind 390 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: of just dressed it head on. I was like, I 391 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: want to see, right and if and if you, like, 392 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: can you just give us that chance again? Like I 393 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: feel like there's something here, and so I kind of 394 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: maybe put a little you know, put the ball in 395 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: her court. Obviously, she could say, hey, don't want to 396 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: meet up, and then I would probably just been like, 397 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: all right, this is great, we've checked in. But like 398 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: it was tough for me to like sit you and 399 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: go kick. I don't want to put pressure on this, 400 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: but like from my well being, like emotional well being, 401 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: I need to kind of understand, like is there a 402 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: Is there a potentially? Because if not, I don't know 403 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: if I can really continue just talking to talk right now, Susie, 404 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: how are you feeling? As he was feeling that, Um, 405 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: I was, to be honest, pretty early on after reconnecting, 406 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: I felt like I just had so much clarity to everything, 407 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: like until and nobody will ever know. Like that's the 408 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: thing is, I'm like, until you're in this position, like 409 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: you will not understand everything, and like I'm grateful that 410 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: I had that clarity for us, and like even as 411 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 1: far as like if we weren't compatible in the end, 412 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 1: it's like I had we both had enough information and 413 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: we both had shared and poured our hearts out enough 414 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: to like have true closure if that's what that was 415 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: going to be. But um I did. I still felt 416 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: that love for Clayton, and I just saw how big 417 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: his heart truly was, and um yeah, it's like I 418 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: didn't stop loving him as a person when we left Iceland, 419 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: but I actively made the decision to take steps back 420 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: for myself. I was like, this isn't this may not 421 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: be good for me, and I'm going to do my 422 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: due diligence to figure that out. Before I commit to anything. 423 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: So yes, he was kind of uh saying that I 424 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: actually I really understand where he's coming from, because that's 425 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: where you come to you have that respect for somebody 426 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: of like if this is gonna hurt you, like maybe 427 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: it would be good for me to have that friendship 428 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: and that bond, but if it's going to hurt him 429 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: and pain him, then I have to respect that boundary. 430 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: And we had that conversation and then later down the road, 431 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, we went we did we've we've had a 432 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: blast and to know each other and dating, well secretly dating, 433 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: but we did have a conversation later where Clayton was 434 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: kind of like, I, you know, I just kind of 435 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: need to know like where are you at um, like 436 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: and if you're not, if you don't see a future 437 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: with me, then like let me go. And when he 438 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: said that, that was such a light bulb moment for 439 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: me because I was still I was like fighting myself 440 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: as like I want to be with him, but like 441 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: this was just so such a heavy experience that we 442 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: both have said at different times like it would be 443 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: so much easier to cut ties and go our separate 444 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: ways because we wouldn't have to fight through like the 445 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: challenges of a long distance relationship, of coming off of 446 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: such a heavy show and everything. We both acknowledge that 447 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: it could have been quote unquote easier. But when he 448 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: said that, like I was like, I can't let you go, 449 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: Like I can't see I can't see my life without 450 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: you at this point, like I want you to be 451 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: a part of my life. And so it was that 452 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: point that I made the active position of like, okay, 453 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: like I'm in this now, like I'm we're gonna do 454 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 1: this and we're going to give it a shot. I 455 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: hate that I have to let you guys go. Now. 456 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: I have like forty more minutes of questions just real quick. 457 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: How how did um you finangle him to move to Virginia? 458 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: That's my homestay as well. Oh yeah, I know, like 459 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: northern Virginia right right, Yeah, come down for a beach 460 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: day this summer maybe, Yes, how did you do that? Yeah? 461 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: He was really open minded to it. I kind of 462 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: we talked about that on the show, that he was 463 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: open to moving. He was ready to uproot and go 464 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: where his heart was going to take him. So he's 465 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: he was easily convinced, actually not even convinced he was 466 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: just down. He just offered it himself. Yeah, he was like, hey, 467 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: I'm living. I was like, oy, okay, hold on alighting. 468 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: We're happy for you guys. After all that you've gone through, 469 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: you deserve to enjoy each other now. So yeah, I 470 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: have a great day once this is all over all 471 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: the interviews, Thank you, go have some fun date nights 472 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: out in public without having to hide. We're so ready, 473 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: too excited for it. Yeah all right, you guys, very sweet. 474 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: Talk to you soon. 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