WEBVTT - Fire Drill 060: Collin's Collapse 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:06.640 Welcome back to the fire Drill. I will tell a 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:08.600 funny story about my producer here at the end of this. 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:13.200 But as far as UM are well, first of all, 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:15.720 welcome back. Happy New Year? Did we do one already? 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:17.440 I don't know. It might be Happy New Year again? 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:19.320 And there's a Larry David bit about how I'm not 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:22.840 supposed to say Happy New Year. But anyway, UM, Tournament 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.759 of Champions. Allen was out there, so he had a 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:28.400 lot of good stuff from the ground obviously. We talked 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:34.519 about UH, John's Rom's comeback, UH and Collin's collapses and 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:37.360 whether this is a thing you know he did it 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:40.800 at the Hero, he did it here and UM, you 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:44.080 know whether it gets into his head. Um. We talked 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.400 about a press conference that Jay had. Allen was there 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.360 with him for a little over an hour. UH, talked 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:56.280 to Live as always, UM, talked about Allen's book, UH, 0:00:56.360 --> 0:01:01.080 and just was a really good conversation as always. Michael Bamberger, 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:05.200 Alan Schipnik, and myself. UM, I do want to tell 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.480 a quick story about my producer. Who's looking at me, 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:11.320 Jake Huge Parker's fan. Right now, currently the Packers and 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:15.640 the Lines are playing. Jake paused all like turned off 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.320 his cell phone, paused the TV when we recorded, and 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:20.440 was going to watch it as if it was live. 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:24.440 And I forgot that, And at the end of the 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:29.040 podcast told the score and and Jake just went hammerund 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.319 me that I wish it was recorded, but I could 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:35.000 not stop laughing. Jake, I'm so sorry. Let's get to 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:39.960 our sponsors. Uh, part points, go make par great scoring, 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:41.959 A great way to make scoring. I know it's hard 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:43.880 to change the way you score golf, but this is 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.360 a great way to do it. Go to part points 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:53.080 downloaded on your phone, Go make par Uh and then 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:58.400 Dormy Workshop Artisanal have to say it every week. Uh 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:03.200 Uh club covers, Putter covers awesome supporters of us and 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:06.400 uh A big fan of them. So without further ado, 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:13.480 here's the three of us talking golf. That gott can't 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:21.040 you j nothing? Well, what I'm thinking about? Can't get 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:33.600 him that nothing? Think? Well, I'm thinking about I'm not 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:35.640 so how much. You guys saw the turd of it today, 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:40.160 but it was spectacular in its Uh. You know, you 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.480 had called more acclif like he was gonna absolutely dominate 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:44.880 and you led to death here in Paradise and John 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:49.480 rom played absolutely beautiful round. Uh so what makes sports compelling? 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.560 Like people were just we're just saying it was over 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:55.960 after after three rounds, but ain't over till it's over. 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.280 So what what did you guys make of the day. Yeah, 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:02.040 I didn't watch a single shot, but mostly in protest 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:03.880 because you know, this is not my kind of tournament. 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:08.840 But um, I saw a lot of it on Twitter obviously, Uh, 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:12.440 you know clips and stuff. I mean, Colin has now 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.840 blown a five shot lead to the hero and a 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:17.800 seven shot lead at the at the Tournament of Champions, 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.800 and from the highlights I saw, it was like a 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:25.160 full kind of melt down there, like chunk shots and 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:29.320 making bogies on holes that are pretty easy. It's, uh, 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.680 it's pretty wild. I mean, what a crazy sport. I 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:38.480 mean he literally dominated for whatever, seventy sixty six holes 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:46.000 sixties holes without and then just like imploded. I mean 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:49.640 it's metaphysical, right, like you're you're playing that well, and 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:51.920 uh you did look quite as comfortable there too, But 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:56.080 again that's more about the emotional of the physical, and uh, 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.400 it's what makes tournament golf such a great theater. Feel 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:01.280 sorry for the guy at the human level, but man, 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:04.760 it was. It was fascinating. What was the heat and 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:08.760 humidity like out there? Because Colin Marcar was wearing those 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.320 polyster shirts they usually know. I mean, he's so slender 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.920 and fit, and he was perspiring like crazy, which you 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.920 very seldom see in Hawaii. What was going on? It's yeah, 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.240 it's been hot, you know. Wednesday and Thursday was kind 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.200 of overcast and off and on truly, but the last 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.480 three days have been scorcher was like I saw one 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:31.680 the mometer here in Maui was ninety degrees, so that's unusual. Yeah, 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.200 I know, And this is a very difficult golf course 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.240 to walk. It's funny the guys in practice around the 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.520 zip round of golf carts and they like it looks 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.520 like the nowe five hundred out there. I mean, these 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.480 dudes are racing for me to be to see that. 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.680 They practice rounds of nineteen minutes and stuff like that. 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:50.520 But I feel like it's almost a disservice because they 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:52.640 don't really you know, all the hanging out having the 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.520 mindy ties whatever, and then you can get to Thursday, 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:56.640 you have to walk the golf course. I feel like like, 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:59.440 you know, that was maybe what happened to Mark how 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:03.080 he's asked out there. So that's a good observation, Michael. 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.799 It was hotter than usual, it was. It wasn't much breeze. 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:10.360 They also made the golf course a lot trickier, bouncier, 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.520 you know, I asked, I asked Ron afterwards. Its like, 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.960 you know, last year you had Shuffler gets the number one, 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.279 camp Smith to get the number one, Grey get number one, 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.880 Like feel all left out, man, like hurt your pride? 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:25.160 And he kind of puffed up and he's like, yeah, 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:26.840 you know, I think I'm the best golf in the world. 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:29.800 And you know, it was definitely a statement victory. So 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.920 it's cool to see him do it. Well, I'm sure 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:34.280 I'll tell me more of Ron, but just to go 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.120 back to Colin here for a second. I mean what 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.440 you just saut on fitness should be his stock in trade. 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.000 I mean, just to look at this guy. He's he's young, 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.839 he's slender, he's strong as an ox for his weight. 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:49.400 You'd think he's going nine year holes with anybody. Yeah, 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.480 well you just get married, you know. So he maybe 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.800 have done a little too much partying and honeymooning and 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:59.200 other things, and he doesn't doesn't hasn't so as much 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.000 time with the Jim or what ever. But yeah, and 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.880 it's funny because you know, wrong is he's got like 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:08.200 like because he's obviously the way his body moves, he's 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.120 an athlete. It doesn't look like an athlete, right. I 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:14.840 was old, Chunky's thick and uh, but he looked fresh man. 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:16.480 He looked like he could play another eighteen goal. So 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:20.080 it's amazing what adrenaline will do an emotion because his 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.440 rom was like in that that chasing boy had that 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:24.440 he had the scent and there was so much pep 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.960 in his step and Mark Cow's hang dog and shoulder 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.440 slums and muttering to himself and then you're playing like that, 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.280 it's like all the life force drains out of it. 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.240 Was it was really interesting to see. It's interesting to 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.520 hear you said that about Ram because he's a big, 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.760 big boy in every way. But you know, when he 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.080 threw one of these fist pumps from making a put, 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:47.360 you know, uh, late on Sunday, he really looked like 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.000 some of these great boxers in there a lot of years, 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.840 even like Ali. You know, Ali was was not slender 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:54.560 at the end when he was still good. Maybe that's 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:58.080 not the best example performing and and and various others. 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.280 He looks strong as an I mean, he looked like 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:04.120 he could go with anybody in any sport. He just 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:08.160 looked big, strong, mean, tough, the whole athletic package. So 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.080 it was like, yeah, if you just saw him being, know, 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.960 sitting in asana, you'd say this guy's lead athlete. But 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:18.120 then if you see him in action, and then the 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.240 swinging speaks for itself, and you can't swing that fast 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:26.080 back in down without being absolutely superb athlete. Look, you 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.000 were seen in the soccer ball. He's he could. He's 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.720 got great feet. It's kind of like you know, Chimolajua 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.080 on the Basketball player group played playing soccer and that's 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:34.440 why he was so good. In the post, he was 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:36.360 like he was dancing in there, and I think there's 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.000 something to do that with wrong. He's just he's just 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:42.840 he's got incredible motor patterns and uh, you know he's 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.480 he's what you do with your hands and the golf 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:46.720 swing is very different what you do with the soccer 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:50.720 ball your feet, you could do both, So uh, don't 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:52.800 be fooled by the package. It's like Carl Peterson He's 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.760 like one of my all time favorite pet golfers because 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:58.160 he looked absolutely dumpy and anyone like five times and 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.840 just you know, obviously the wall or is to go 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.600 down the list. Bob Bob Murphy was like that in 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:10.080 the seventies. Yeah, big Big, the young Big Jack. I mean, 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.920 these guys don't look like quote unquote athletes with their 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:17.520 hand eye coordination, their explosiveness, that's the ability to you know, 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:19.120 swing a club a onter two miles an hour and 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.440 hit a little dime size spot over and over. Incredible, 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:26.119 they can do it. Uh, And let us not forget 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:31.600 to make our obligatory but totally authentic nod to John 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.800 Rom's spic tacul or use of the English language. I mean, 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.800 he just expresses himself so well in good times and bad. 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:40.880 He expresses himself with his face and he's got a 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.559 great emotional face, but the actual words that come out 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.760 of his mouth always blows me away how well spoken 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.679 this guy is. And Sergio was the name, and a 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.240 off the ball was the same, but he especially, Yeah, 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.839 I know, there's like this old world like courtliness. It's 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.120 almost a little formal his language, and I love it, 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.160 and so I just as is my wan. I just 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.800 sneaked into this thing upstairs at the capital of the clubhouse. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:07.920 It's a centuries the the tournament sponsor, and so traditionally 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.480 Jamnahan always as a Q and A with the champion, 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:12.439 and it's just for the century of V I P. S. 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.199 But I went to the back door and they have 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.440 this incredible spread of sushi. So I got this huge 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.280 plate and I stur on the balcony, facing away from 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.440 the stage and the crowd and just stuffed my face 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.120 and no one to recognize me. And then as soon 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.959 as I started talking, I turned around and started paying attention. 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.960 And but you know in that that's a little more 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.960 informal setting. The mark Rolfing is, you know, the patriarch. 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:34.920 He saw me, He texts me, please don't quote this. 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.959 I don't want to get in trouble whatever thing. But 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:40.760 do you think you're sneaking around days? You're gonna be 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:45.920 harder now post the phil Exclamation working book. Uh, I 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:49.079 don't know. I mean, you got you gotta blend in. 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:51.319 So if I'm standing there taking notes, yeah, you know, 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.439 I take my credential off and you get that, you 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.199 get you know, two pounds worth of good nagiri and 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.680 they're stoked. No one's no one really. I wasn't gonna 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.880 ask what's what's the best place you've snuck into as 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.480 a but we all know how that ended. Yeah, public 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:12.120 having but anyway to go back to my rom and 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.920 that atmosphere, were still relaxed. He's drinking in Tina Colada 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:19.120 and um Monahan's not a great interviewer. Every sentence begin 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:22.520 to talk about, talk about, talk about you know, it's 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.920 like just ask a question, Jay, not to make a statement. 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:28.040 This is like interviewing one on one. But anyway, and Jay, 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.959 we don't use the command form at the elite levels 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:39.720 of the game. They're human beings, they're not robots. Anyway, 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.719 in that setting, ram will still relaxed. And yeah, he 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.400 spoke so beautifully about the feeling he has here in 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.600 the Islands, and him and his wife and the two sons. 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.480 They come over on December twenty seven and they put 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:53.160 the phone in the drawers, he said, and they just 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:57.520 relaxed and they just live like uh, like true vacationers 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:58.920 and it kind of eases them into the week. And 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:03.439 then last year it whatever did win because camp it 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:07.120 was absolutely nuts but um, you know, it's obviously found 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:08.920 the right formula. But it was just it was sweet 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:10.920 to hear he was. He was so eloquent and at 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.679 some point, you know, he stopped speaking in Monahan was 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:17.040 just he just said, how good is that to the crowd, 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:18.520 like there's nothing to say. It was just so it 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.880 was like speaking the whole lovely paragraphs. So yeah, and 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:23.600 I was like, he didn't win by he didn't win 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:27.199 by one. He went by two, and he was he 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.760 made a bogey on one and he was nine shots 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.719 back on the second hole. As much as we want 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:37.040 to talk about John Raum and obviously a great round, 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:42.560 but I mean a couple more like one more big 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.880 lead lost by Colin. I mean, it's kind of like 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:49.599 a five shot lead and a seven shot lead is 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:53.079 pretty tough to like that. That's tough to swallow. It's 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.040 gotta be in your head a little bit. The next 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.760 time he gets way ahead. Oh no, he's in the 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:01.040 danger zone for sure. And and don't forget he's at 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.360 the Tournament of Champions and he's not even a champion. 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.480 He hasn't one since two thousand twenty one. He got 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:12.760 in with this new criteria Trophy, the new criteria of 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:21.520 let's pay our best players. Everybody's invited. Everybody, Yeah, every 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.960 every elite informally elite golfer is still in the league 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:31.840 golfer on the PGA Tour. So true. I related. I related. 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:36.160 I saw on Twitter, uh Collins j J. Collins Caddy 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.200 j J. There was a clip of him like putting 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.760 his arm around Colin and like trying to pump him up, 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.679 and it took me back. Obviously not comparison, but Uh, 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.319 I was kidding for Mark Baldwin in a corn ferry 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:51.240 event in Chicago and we were like four off the 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.679 cut line, not even dreaming about the cut because like 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:57.439 a couple more birdies were in contention, and uh it was. 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.920 It was Friday and Mark starts made one bogey and 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:02.880 you're like, yeah, it's fine, man, no problem, more good, 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.040 and then it makes another bogey and then you're like 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.480 you you can say something like all right, dude, let's 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.880 you know, start fresh here, and then you make another bogie. 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.640 There's nothing really to say, you know anymore. You're just 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.920 like putting your arm around him and you're like okay, 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:17.760 And then the fourth bogie when you missed the cut 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:19.679 and you're like there's nothing to say. You're just like 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.679 out of luck, you know, and JJ did all of those. 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:24.240 I saw a couple of clips, you like try to 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.199 encourage him and then try to give him the old 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.280 hand pat and then there's just sometimes that there's nothing 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.120 to just say. You just sit there and watch your 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:36.320 player blow it. Yeah, how agonizing is that? Ryan? Yeah, 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.120 it's It's the most helpless feeling I've had in golf. 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.559 Is like, uh, you know, I mean you're watching a 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.920 guy just like Mark. It was in a different circumstance, 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:49.040 but it doesn't matter. It's the same feeling. I would assume, uh, 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.320 you know, Mark needed to make cuts to move up 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.360 the money list, and it's like just helpless. You're watching 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.319 the guy make bogey after boge and you're just like 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:58.959 there's nothing you can do. You can only there's only 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.120 so many pep talks you can make, and before the 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.719 guys like get out of my face, you know, and 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:07.400 just like you gotta leave him alone at some point. Well, right, 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:11.400 that's that's golf. Golf, you know, like college basketball and 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.960 a lot of other sports, it is really really really 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.760 hard to change momentum and golf um and of course 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:20.720 it goes to John Rom too, though. You know, bogie 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.520 on one when you're look like you're helplessly out of 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:25.960 it and then turn around, that's hard. Although we've talked 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.840 about bogies on one before sometimes or Jeff Ogilvie has 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.200 sold us Alan about bogie on one how that can 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.600 sort of turning around sometimes, but not in this setting. Uh, 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:39.280 bogion one is a total I give him credit, Michael 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:43.560 at Cappela when he's already you know, money is obviously 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.680 not a thing like you can easily you make a 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:47.640 bogie on one and you can easily pack it in. 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:51.000 I mean, it's a it's a no cut event. Everybody's 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:52.880 gonna get rich no matter where are you finished, So 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.520 you're kind of like to dig down and actually go 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:59.600 after in an event, like in any event, obviously, but 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.560 like even an event like this, which is that has 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.160 a tone of hit and giggle for sure, maybe not 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.440 as the lead on Sunday, but it's not like a 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.880 huge grind fest out there. Rom's a little different man. 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:14.880 He runs so hot. I was talking to his wife 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.760 afterwards and I said, you know, was he grumpy last year? 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:19.520 That guy saw thirty three under work can you do? 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.240 And she's like, he was extremely grumpy. Anytime he doesn't win, 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.480 he's grumpy. It's like even when he wins, he sometimes 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.800 grump because he thinks they could done something better. Like he's, um, 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.040 he wants it. You know, It's one thing I like 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:33.000 about it's palpable that desire you look at. You know, 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:35.600 Cam Smith, You're not sure how deep the ambition runs, 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:40.000 you know, but like wrong man, he's he's hungry and 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.600 he's not one three of his last four starts worldwide, 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.760 and he's very prideful. He's told me he wants to 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.280 get back to number one. He wants to win more majors, 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.640 like he's he's a guy who thinks about his legacy 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.400 in the game. And I love that because he's obviously 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.880 it's attactive talent and he's chasing it hard. And that's 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:58.480 that's all you can want from a great player, you know, 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.800 Like they don't always anything or see But it's frustrating 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.800 when you see a talent and they're they're not really 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:05.920 that into it and they have an okay career, but 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:07.800 they're never what you think. I don't know, NA mean 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.640 name is Fred Couples, but it's like it's it's more 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:14.160 satisfying when guys go after that. And now to to 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.760 your point, you know, when we hear John Rum talking about, 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:18.800 you know, the world ranking points said it's a joke 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:20.840 that lives on getting world ranking points, you know, which 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.160 is basically what he has said. It's got to be 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.400 rooted in the fact that he wants to beat the 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.560 best in the world, no matter where they're playing. Uh So, 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.440 if you're if you're going to give him, you know, 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.280 but not a hundred percent of the world's best players 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:38.520 at Major's and the Players Championship especially, um, it means 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.800 him actually, uh he came to United States to take 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:43.360 on the world. He plays in Europe to take on 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.080 the world. And uh, uh so I think what you 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.120 I think there's a lot of truth. There is a 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:49.640 lot of truth to what to what you just said. 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:53.400 And and uh and and Rum has put his his 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:57.480 words in for for what he believes. Hey, I don't 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:00.080 this this has nothing to do with Colin or but 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:01.960 it doesn't have to do with the century in the 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.440 PGA tour. No one has said it. I don't know 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:09.879 if it's even legitimate. But Xander withdrew because of a 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.960 bad bag. Is there any rumblings Allen that you're hearing 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:16.919 on the ground of Like would he have played normally, 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.160 he probably would have just taken the week off, right, 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.359 but like he didn't want it to He didn't want 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:24.639 to burn his one out of these elevated events. And 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.760 then he comes here and he gets hurt worse or 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.320 maybe not worse, but he just like aggravates his injury 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.399 right Like I would guess if this was a normal 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:37.359 century Tournament of Champions, he would have just not played. 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:42.960 So this is interesting. Um. Every every year Monaghan Jamonahan, 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:45.960 the commission with PGA Tour has had a little informal 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.439 Q and A with reporters here. There's usually very few 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.919 of them. Last year because of Covid was only Doug Fergus. 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.880 He's literally the only guy, um. But it's a nice 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.119 turnout this year because it's a start's whole new europe 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.920 On tour. They'll BEGA events and everything else. And so 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.719 uh I was one of about a dozen guys went 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.440 to this little windowless conference room this morning right after 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:12.440 Markow it teed off and j J took questions for 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:14.320 about an hour and it was big for me because 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:15.920 I've been trying to get audience with him all of 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:19.000 last year, and he was ducking me, and his colms 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:21.240 people were ducking me, and they were run interferes. I 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.800 was texted j he wasn't answering, And I finally got 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.560 him at cornered him at the Door Championship and looked 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.080 me in the eyes and said, okay, I'll talk to you. 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.159 And and he's still duck in me. And so I 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.520 finally I finally got him, even though I hate to 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:35.920 have to share with everybody else, but I like this 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.959 is I mean, I'm gonna keep bird dogging him, but uh, 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:42.280 and so it was. It was a very productive session. 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.800 I got to ask some super granular questions that no 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:46.600 one else in the world will care about, but are 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:48.600 very important to me as I've written this book about 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:50.960 the future, let just live and all that stuff. But 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.600 one thing that came out of this conversation is that 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:59.159 um Monahan admitted that he has the ultimate discretion on 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.800 the pit. And then even if you don't, if you 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.640 don't play twelve out of thirteen events, you can still 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:06.520 dole out what you would have gone. But you could 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.480 call the tiger rule. This tiger is only gonna play 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.800 two out of thirt you know or whatever, like this 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:15.600 is bad news for the Travelers. This is very bad, 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:20.879 he said, situational. I'll have to weigh the situation. But 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.960 you know, so uh yeah, if guys just want to 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.000 go on a vacation, but yeah, you may there may 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:28.720 be some quote unquote stiff backs during some of these 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:33.760 lesser elevated events. And Monahan is gonna what's he gonna do? 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.919 Not give Rory his fifteen million dollars of Roy skips 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.840 a couple more like, you know, Royce saved the tour, Like, 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.440 let's wahn do He's not going to give tigers and 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:45.600 money Tigers the de facto commissioners so and and Mike 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:48.760 and Michael brought this up last week. Is like Rory 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:50.920 plays all over the world, so it's like, you know, 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:53.600 I mean, this guy doesn't want to play the Travelers. 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:57.280 He wants to take the week off. Frory and Rom 0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:59.280 and a few other guys. They also have to play 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.120 turn into the European Tour to keep their membership there, 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.600 and so that goes into this whole scheduling matrix. That's 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.400 why Roy did not come to this event that he's 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.520 been trying to pick off European Tour start, you know, 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:13.800 in the coming weeks, and it was just too much 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:16.040 to make it all fit. But yeah, so not to me, 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:19.560 was it was an interesting revelation. I mean, I've been 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:22.199 calling the pit money a slush fund since the beginning, 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.440 but here's the ultimate example. You know, first you gotta play, 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:27.480 you gotta play all thirteen events, you don't get any money, 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.280 and then okay, sorry we jumped the gun. We'll say 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:33.240 you gotta play toll out of thirteen. Okay, fine, just 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:34.800 try your best boys and then we'll see how it 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:36.639 takes out at the end. Like so that that was 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.040 that was That was a little nugget that came from 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.840 this Q. And was that the session where because I 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:44.040 read Doug story where there was a quote that said 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:47.760