1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: and everybody, you know, if. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: You don't lie about that. 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 3: Right, Hey, y'all, what's up. It's Laura l. Rosa and 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 3: this is the latest with Laura l. Rosa. 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: This is your DELI dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news, 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: and all of the conversations that shake the room. 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 3: Baby. Now we are going to go right on end 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: because y'all know, I take y'all in. 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: We're going right on into the middle of a conversation 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: that has begin online. 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 3: America's Next Top Model. 13 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: There is a docu series that is dropping on Netflix 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: that will be diving into America's Next Top Model for 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: what it seems like some of the bad, some of 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: the good, some of the ugly, and it seems like, 17 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, Tyra Banks, you know, is going to be 18 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: taking some accountability for some things. 19 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: So in all things America's. 20 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: Next Top Model, I had to go get one of 21 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: my phase from the show. 22 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: Ever, mister Carr Jones, let it go me. 23 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: I love you so much? How are you? 24 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: How are you? Oh? 25 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: At this point, it's like when the people watch this 26 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: Netflix series and like this new generation who's seen the 27 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: memes and heard the things discovered the show girl, you 28 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: were gonna get your the love that you were gonna 29 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: refeel all over again. I'm excited for that for you. 30 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: If nothing else, I'm excited for that. 31 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. No, I feel in love every day. 32 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: I mean every day. 33 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,639 Speaker 4: Literally there's some woman that's coming up to me telling 34 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 4: me how, you know, I really hit help shape her 35 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: body image, self image of herself. So yeah, I'm excited. 36 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 4: I'm excited too, but I always feel the love. I 37 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 4: guess that's why they didn't put me in the documentary. 38 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 4: They was like, girl, you got a good story. 39 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: So wait okay, because yes, okay, look so that was 40 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: one of my questions. Now the documentary is called or 41 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: the docuseries, it's called Reality Check Inside America's Next Top Model. 42 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: And when they posted Netflix day posted the trailer and 43 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 1: you know you only get to see but so much. 44 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: But it's cut so well right right right right. 45 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: Everybody's like, oh my god, they're going to get into 46 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: all the bs because all the models hated it and 47 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And I'm like, but I mean, there 48 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: have been some conversations about experiences that you had on 49 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: the show. But I know you had from what it 50 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: seems like after the show you had, it helped to 51 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: do a lot of the things you wanted to do, 52 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: just career wise. 53 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 3: So is that why you weren't call, Like they didn't 54 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: contact you at all. 55 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, and. 56 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say they didn't contact me, and maybe 57 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 4: they just couldn't find me. 58 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: Girl. 59 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: Now look, we the people know where to You're everywhere, 60 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: you're on shows, you're on sets, you're all over Instagram. 61 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: You ain't hard to find. 62 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: Okay, It's okay. But like I said, I don't have 63 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 4: because from the trailer though, I'm I'm ready to watch 64 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: the docu series. From the trailer, looked like it's all 65 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 4: the drama, honey, And like I said, I don't really 66 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 4: I didn't really have drama. 67 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: I mean I did. 68 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 4: Have my little my my thing with the stylists, you know, 69 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 4: pinched me and couldn't find any clothes for me. And 70 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess I did have my share of obstacles. 71 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 4: But I come from I come from the world. I 72 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: come from that where like I was miling when I 73 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 4: was fourteen, So we're used to the drama. It wasn't 74 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: all peaches and cream. You had to do things like 75 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 4: I think Tyra was doing what she said she was doing, 76 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 4: showing the industry and how it was back then, Like 77 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 4: when I was going to the agencies at fourteen fifteen sixteen, 78 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: they were telling me to lose weight, cut my hair, 79 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 4: do this, do that, like that. 80 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: Was just part of the game. 81 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: Now, that's been one of the conversations that I've been 82 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: seeing online. It's the battle between is Tyra Banks the 83 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: villain or not. On one side, there are people who 84 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: feel like she was doing what the industry was already doing, 85 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: and she even makes a you know, from what the 86 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: edit seems like, she even takes a shot at that 87 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 1: in the trailer where she's like, I was giving y'all 88 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: more of what you wanted, talking about the audience, right. 89 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 4: And exactly it was a TV show, like you we 90 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: knew this too. Like it wasn't just like the model industry. 91 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 4: It was also making TV. It's reality to TV, so 92 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 4: it was I mean, they did do things that were grander, right, 93 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: but that was the excitement. 94 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: That was the appeal, right. 95 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 4: We wanted to be a part of the grander photo 96 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 4: shoots and all of those things. 97 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: So so but on the other side there's the like 98 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: so you have the whole like this is what the 99 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: industry is, this is whatever. But then on the other 100 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: side there are women, and some of them in this 101 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, dancers, because they look traumatized very much so 102 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: so on the inside, right, because what I what I'm 103 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: assuming we'll see is a lot of the inside take 104 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: that we didn't get back then. It's a different time 105 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: where you got to talk about things more openly. You 106 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: were on the inside of things, on the inside when 107 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: if we were to have pelt the layers back when 108 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: you were you know, during your season, was it as 109 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: bad as it feels like this trailer is going to 110 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: make it seem, And as we've heard other women say, 111 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: like was it the you know, the Dundundune that it 112 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: feels like it was? 113 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: I can't. 114 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 4: I can't tell you how the experience is for those 115 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 4: other girls who experience those things. 116 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I. 117 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: Think looking at the trailer too, it looks it looks 118 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 4: it looked traumatizing to me too, you know, going in 119 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: and they're saying like we're gonna change your ethnicity where 120 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 4: you know, we're going to have a procedure, we want 121 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: you to close your gap. You know, we want you know, 122 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: we're cutting your hair or you gotta you know, you 123 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 4: you're this small, You're not small enough. You know, like 124 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 4: those are real issues, Those are real traumatizing things. You know, 125 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: one of the girls that looked like she was touching appropriately, 126 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 4: you know, like it's some real stuff that's going on 127 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 4: in this trailer here. 128 00:05:58,960 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: I'm almost like. 129 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: I was part of that, you know, like yeah, but see, 130 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: you're you're okay. So I've seen Reddit forums and conversations 131 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: about your experience with the stylists and you know, the 132 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: whole pinching you and trying to find clothes, to the 133 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: point where there are a lot of fans who still 134 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: feel like you should have went way further in the show. 135 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: The only reason you didn't was because they didn't want 136 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: to have to face these like problematic beauty standards of 137 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: wheat and size. 138 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 4: You know the same way too. I don't understand how 139 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: I got cut, why I got cut. It don't make 140 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 4: any sense to me to this day. And I was 141 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 4: the fan favorite at the time too, Like I was 142 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 4: winning the they were voting on online or it wasn't 143 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 4: online then, but like calling in and it was weekly and. 144 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: I was, I was up there, so I don't I 145 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: don't understand that. 146 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: Either, And nothing was ever further explained to you in 147 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: real life, like outside of because you sign up and 148 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: there these rules to the contest and then you picked 149 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: the lucky number and they're like, oh, sorry, you didn't win, 150 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: and it's like one plus one doesn't it's supposed to 151 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: equal to but it didn't for you. 152 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: No, no. 153 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: And also after coming off the Top Model, it was 154 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 4: it was hard for girls because at first you thought 155 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 4: that saying that you were a part of Top Model 156 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: would get you into doors. But after a while, with 157 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 4: so many girls that were coming through Top Model, that 158 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 4: it was like nobody really wanted to work with you 159 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: if you were on Top Model. 160 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: Did you guys build like your own community after the 161 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: show because of that, like, like you know, I wish. 162 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: I could say yes. 163 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 4: I always felt like we should have like a Top 164 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: Model alumni or like we should have our own thing, 165 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 4: even to this day, like it's so many of us, 166 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 4: so many girls who made a big difference in this 167 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: industry who's flourished, and you know some girls who didn't. 168 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: But I really feel like we should have that type 169 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: of community. I keep in touch with some of the girls. 170 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 4: I have a good report or with you know, a 171 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: lot of the girls that were on my season that 172 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 4: weren't on my season, you know, just in the franchise 173 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 4: all together. 174 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: But I wish we did have like. 175 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you after you decided to when I decided, 176 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: but after you left the show, did you watch any 177 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: of the seasons follow on you like, were your religious 178 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: watcher or did you No. 179 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 4: I was kind of like one of them girls, like 180 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 4: I'm done with this. Yeah, I'm not watching this. And 181 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 4: I think later on I might have catched a few 182 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: episodes here and there, like the new seasons they came 183 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 4: out and checked out some of the new girls. But 184 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 4: I don't think I ever watched a full season from 185 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 4: the beginning to end. After my season, I'm like my followers, 186 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 4: they like, once you laugh, I. 187 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: Last, they say, and in you know, in the tagline 188 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: of this trailer for this new docu series that they're 189 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: gonna be some things that they get into and there's 190 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: you know, things that we were expecting them to unpack. 191 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 2: What do you think it's the the. 192 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: Biggest thing or the biggest conversation that this docuseries should 193 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: have about America's next time model. 194 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 4: What do I think the biggest conversation they should have 195 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 4: about America's next top model? 196 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 3: Yes, girl, I don't know. 197 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: What is the biggest conversation. What did you like? 198 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 3: Most? 199 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: Most people want to hear whether or not Tyro was 200 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: too harsh? I know, for you know, people who have 201 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: their because the girl, the Reddit pages go off about you, 202 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: but the whole beauty standard thing is an issue as well, 203 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: like when they did the face the ethnicity swap episode 204 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: with the you and the style is. So they want 205 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: to have the conversation about what I think. 206 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: That's I think it sounds like that's what Tyro's going 207 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: to do. 208 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 4: Sounds like she's going to have that conversation from the trailer, 209 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 4: because from the trailer, doesn't she make a statement like 210 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 4: I know I took it too far. 211 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: I know I went too far. 212 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 4: You know, so like I'm on the edge of my 213 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 4: seat too, like maybe tell me, tell me And I 214 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 4: can understand that, because I. 215 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: Mean, would you take it too far? 216 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 4: Like you had a show. You're getting these ratings and 217 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 4: you get these shows, you had these show ideas. 218 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I think any human being getting all this. 219 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, attention and power and you know, like I you know, 220 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 4: I don't I'm not saying she's right or wrong, but 221 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: I can understand what was it how it could get 222 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 4: to you? 223 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: What was it like for her? 224 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: Because I think people never had the conversation of from 225 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: what you could see, what was it like for her 226 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: at the time, right because the show was doing so 227 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: well and she's trying to push for the success. Were 228 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: you able to visibly see like was she under what 229 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: Cyberbank's under pressure were? There are a lot of moments 230 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: where she was like, you know, pushing to the grain 231 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: and you felt pressure, Like what was it like interacting 232 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: with her and seeing her behind the scenes being because I. 233 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 3: Heard she was very hands on with the show. 234 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 235 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 4: I was on season three, so it was in the beginning, 236 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 4: so we got a lot of love and attention. You know, Tyra, 237 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 4: come check on us, You know, Tyra, she didn't seem 238 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 4: under pressure. It was still new. It was season three, 239 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 4: So I don't know what type of pressure she felt. 240 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess trying to get it each season 241 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 4: would be pressure from one to two to three, to 242 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 4: four to five to. 243 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 2: Six seven, But. 244 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 4: No, and then you know, like we were young, so 245 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 4: I was excited to see Tyra. 246 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: It was like, oh my gosh, she's like she roll. 247 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 4: Here is Tyra Banks in front of me, So like 248 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 4: I was fangirling, gout. And you know, we were always 249 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 4: excited when Tyra walked in a room or to see Tyra, 250 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 4: Like it was always love, it was always excitement. 251 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: She was always Tyra. She was always that Girl's. 252 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: Like for your experience to be so different than other people's, 253 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: I feel like like I almost wish and we don't 254 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen yet, so I probably back here 255 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: asked it, like, hey, girl, what you. 256 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 3: Think to watch it? 257 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: Right, there's a whole generation of people that didn't really 258 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: get to watch like I remember watching you guys. I 259 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: remember auditioning because of seeing what I saw, like looking 260 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: at y'all on the TV screen right right. There's a 261 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: new generation that never got to feel that, and they're 262 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: about to learn about it from this perspective, in this 263 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: lens of like all of the like firestorms, it seems 264 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: like and it's almost unfortunate a bit, but I understand that, like, 265 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, you got to hold people to whatever and accountable. 266 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: But it's just like men like, your experience is so 267 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: different than even how I think. 268 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 4: Because of my personality too, and the type of person 269 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: that I am too. I think that plays a big 270 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 4: role on it, because I don't like when I'm sitting 271 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 4: here talking to you, I almost forgot you know that 272 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 4: I did have a hard time and like I was 273 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 4: just you're right. My one of my good friends, her 274 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 4: daughter is fourteen fifteen. We just was watching my season 275 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 4: on I think what's on Hulu. I think they're playing 276 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 4: the time out of but just going back and watching 277 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 4: me at twenty years old. You know, I didn't get 278 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 4: to watch the whole season with her, but I watched 279 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:07,599 Speaker 4: a few episodes. 280 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: But I don't even know I'm brambling. Oh, I'm sorry. 281 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 3: Just a new generation discovery, y'all. 282 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: And how different it is gonna be for them because 283 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: some of them might discover you through or discover the 284 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: show through this docu series. 285 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 4: No, there were times there were times like and I 286 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 4: mean it was reality stuff, because there were times where 287 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 4: I felt like that didn't happen, like with they edited. 288 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 4: You know, they'll show stuff or show where maybe I 289 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 4: was crying or I was looking sad or something. I'm like, 290 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: that's not what happened, or that's not why this you know, 291 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 4: or you know, or that wasn't our best picture. It 292 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: was just like a whole lot of things. But I 293 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 4: think I also understood that it was show business too, 294 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 4: like it's also a TV show, you know, So. 295 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 2: I didn't get so mad at the edits. 296 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 4: Even though they weren't always truthful, you know, they didn't 297 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 4: always like what I would feel, you know, happened in 298 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 4: that particular moment. 299 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got you. 300 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: Well, we'll be watching, Yes, we will be, Yes, we 301 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: will be. 302 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 3: What are you up to now? 303 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: I feel like every time I tap in with you, 304 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: it's like like you you have so much going on 305 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: and so much as you're doing, and I'm I mean, 306 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: I don't know you're again, you were one of my 307 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: favorites on the show, and you're one of my favorite 308 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: people to watch just in real life because of how 309 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: you go through life. 310 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 3: So like, just so positive, thank you, thank you. 311 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 4: Well. Yeah, I'm down here in Atlanta now and I'm 312 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 4: actually into wellness. 313 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: I am I do sound healing down here, but. 314 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 4: I also have an intimate well let me say about 315 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 4: for all the people who are in Atlanta, please come 316 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 4: and see me I do sound Healing down here every 317 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 4: third Sunday, So check out my Instagram. 318 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: So you make sure you tap into that. 319 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 4: Because mental health is so important right now, and with 320 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 4: all the stuff going on in the world, just being 321 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 4: able to take a moment to like intentionally focus, breathe. 322 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: Meditate, it's so important. Self care so important. 323 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 4: We all know this, but I just encourage y'all to 324 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 4: just dive deeper. 325 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: When did you When did you get into like like, 326 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: because I think knowing knowing of mental health and the 327 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: need for is one thing. Actually taking a time and 328 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: dedicating a time, especially weekly for your own self, probably daily. 329 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 3: When did you start that? 330 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: Well? 331 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 4: I started back when I was living in LA. I 332 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 4: hooked out with. 333 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: Queen a Fool. Are you familiar with Queen of Fool? 334 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: She's come on the breakfast couple a couple of times. 335 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, So Queen Aphod is one of my 336 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 4: mentors and I did. We actually did a personal meet 337 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: her and Lauren Vanderpult. 338 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: She's a raw vegan. Where's your raw vegan chef? Right? Okay? 339 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 4: So we actually had an asrom arom. It's called achrom 340 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 4: So we had aschrom out in La. It was really 341 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 4: it was really amazing. We just did a lot of healing, 342 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 4: but just studying under her, being with her, like forty 343 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 4: days and forty nights, like no matter what, it was 344 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 4: just that awesome experience, and I just carried it on. 345 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 4: You know, once you do something, they say, what's for 346 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 4: seventeen days or twenty seven days? 347 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: It becomes a habit, it becomes a new lifestyle. 348 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 4: But just we fall off, but you got to just 349 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 4: it's just good to have a community. So I'm blessed 350 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 4: that I have a community people of women that I 351 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 4: can connect with, and that I'm also able to share 352 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 4: my guests with other people too. 353 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: So I've been doing this. 354 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 4: I've been doing this healing work for about about about 355 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: eight years, about eight years, but it took me a 356 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 4: little time to really step in my power into really, 357 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 4: I guess, promote it and come out because you're right, 358 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 4: like we've been here about mental health and about you know, 359 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 4: our wellness and our well beings pop we really don't 360 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: speak about it. And it's in actually coming from like 361 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 4: a fashion world and then stepping into it to the 362 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 4: wellness world and the transition it is. 363 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: It's different, it's different, and it's very different. 364 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 4: But thank you for the opportunity to be able to 365 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 4: speak about it. 366 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: They know, of course it almost because because you know, 367 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: even in you talking about you know, your time on 368 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: Top Model and the one incident that I think everybody 369 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: can point to with the stylace that you mentioned, right, 370 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: you positive outtake on that. It almost I feel like 371 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: you were kind of on a journey, probably way before 372 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: you recognized you were, because you have to be mentally 373 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: strong to not allow something like that in front of 374 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: the world, to be something that like traumatizes and breaks 375 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: you to a certain extent, Like you still found like 376 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: you're overcoming in that, and I don't know if a 377 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: lot of people could do that. 378 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 3: It's tough being in front of the world. 379 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 4: It is tough being in front of the world. It 380 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 4: is tough being in front of the world. And you're right, 381 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 4: I've always had that light inside of me. We all 382 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 4: have that light. But I would able to recognize it 383 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 4: and to build on it and to hone it and 384 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 4: to to you know, to to cater and. 385 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 2: To love it. I needed it. I guess I needed it. 386 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 4: I guess I needed it, Lauren, because I came up 387 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 4: in the eighties two and so I didn't have my parents. 388 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 2: I didn't, I didn't. 389 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 4: You know, it's you know, it's a lot going on. 390 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 4: So and we all have a story. And that's another 391 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 4: thing I never like to really get to like, oh, 392 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 4: my sad story, because I feel like so many us 393 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 4: people have that sad story, you know, and and it's 394 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 4: okay to share it with people, so they know that 395 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 4: I too understand, but I don't dwell in it. And 396 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 4: I also like to like move us forward, you know, 397 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 4: like I all, I don't even know. 398 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 2: If I always have to do it. I just do it. 399 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: I just am. Do you feel like you do you. 400 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: Feel like at one point, so now you're moving forward 401 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: is because you know who you are and you just 402 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: exist and that's a powerful place to be. But at 403 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: one point, do you feel like you're moving forward and 404 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: even being able to get over whatever it is at 405 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: the time or whatever you're dealing with was be because 406 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: you were trying to figure out kind of where your 407 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: world was or where you existed in the world before 408 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: you knew who you are. 409 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 4: Now definitely trying to figure it out because everybody was 410 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 4: telling you what you can't be right, So I still 411 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 4: come from the next there it's like I was trying 412 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 4: to be a model, like I said, at like fourteen, 413 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 4: but I wasn't a plus size model. 414 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: I was staying there and they was telling me, no, 415 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: I was going to. 416 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 4: New York, I was going to Ford Wilhelmina. 417 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 2: I went to. 418 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 4: L in all the agencies right, and people were always 419 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 4: telling me no. In you know, in school and sports 420 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 4: and theater and everything. 421 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: People were always telling me. 422 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 4: Now, I was always like the eyeball out, like I 423 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 4: never really seemed to fit in. So I always had 424 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 4: to have like, I always had to have belief in myself. 425 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: And that's why I wanted to say too. 426 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 4: You never really know, you never figure it out. I mean, 427 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: you don't really know. You're trying to figure it out, 428 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 4: but you we have things in us that other people 429 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 4: can see or don't believe, Like even though you like 430 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 4: girls used to pick on me. Girls used to pick 431 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 4: on me, But it's what I felt about myself, you 432 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. People then think that I was 433 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 4: gonna do X, Y and Z, But it was what 434 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 4: I thought about myself, and sometimes I might felt unsure. 435 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 4: But you don't need people to understand your vision. You 436 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 4: don't need people to understand. To understand you, you just 437 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 4: gotta keep moving. I don't know where I got it from. 438 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 4: I wish I could really tell you, but they tell 439 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 4: you though you when you have a vision, it don't 440 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 4: matter what nobody else say. When you believe in yourself, 441 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 4: it don't matter what anybody else think. 442 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 2: You know. 443 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: But now talking to you more and kind of understand 444 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: it a little bit and give us too much, a 445 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: little bit of your backstory, I kind of can understand 446 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: how because I always felt like you were one of 447 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: the few models that left America's X Tip model. The 448 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: world screamed about what they felt like you deserved. They 449 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: were upset for you when and you know, the weight 450 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: stuff happened, and you've always had a smile on your face, 451 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: a red lip, and a good comment to say about 452 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: the show and about Tyer Banks. That's been you consistently 453 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: for years, and I couldn't under not that I think 454 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: you should drag her, but I just couldn't understand where 455 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: the consistent positivity came from because I've always felt like, 456 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: internally I wondered what your battle was because you weren't 457 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: in front of the world. 458 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 3: But I guess I get it now. 459 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: But Yeah, I always said that to thank you, thank 460 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 2: you for that. That was beautiful. Thank you. 461 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 4: I don't have to write that down. You always had 462 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 4: a red lift for the great content to say thank you. 463 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: Call you for the second series. Make tell them make 464 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: that your tagline. 465 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna make that my tagline. But I'm so going 466 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 4: into top Model. It was like, I just needed the opportunity. 467 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 4: You know, when you're that girl coming out of you 468 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 4: know you. 469 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 2: Don't got tovity. 470 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: You just need that opportunity. Just put my foot in 471 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 4: the door. And that's all I ever wanted. So, no 472 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 4: matter what I went through or whatever, all I needed 473 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 4: was the action likes give me, you know what I mean, Like, I. 474 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 2: Just needed that. 475 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 4: And that's and I said, I'm gonna make it work. 476 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna work this, baby, y'all let me in the door, 477 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 4: and I'm gonna work this to the best of my ability. 478 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 4: And thank god, I think I have. I think I've 479 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 4: been working into the best of my ability and I'm 480 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 4: forever grateful. 481 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, what would Takara sitting here with me right now, 482 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: tell Tokara that was experiencing all that stuff during that episode? 483 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: Who dealt with whatever she dealt with he lecter of like, 484 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: what would you say to her now that you are 485 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: like total heels self? 486 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: All I have to do is just be here and 487 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 3: it is it is mine. 488 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That little girl to Cara. 489 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 4: I go back to her, that little girl, ooh girl. 490 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 4: I got a little tear in my eye. 491 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: That that girl was strong. That girl is a little strong. 492 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 2: She knew her. 493 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 4: You know they say when you're younger, I guess you're 494 00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 4: closer to God. That little girl knew. That little girl 495 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 4: carried me today right now. 496 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: That little girl knew. I don't know that little girl special. 497 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: She knew. She's seen it plain as day. She knows. 498 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: She knew. She one of God's favorites. I still go 499 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 2: back to her. I still go back to her. I 500 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: love that. 501 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining me since Yank, I don't believe. 502 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 2: You got me emotional. 503 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: Thank you, no problem, and I really listen. I'm telling you, 504 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: I hope that if nothing else from this docu sriies 505 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: for you, that you get to feel I mean, you 506 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: feel the love every day, but. 507 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 3: I do the people need to know. 508 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: Okay, you carried that time on your back, honey, and 509 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: did it very well. 510 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: You I'm honored to have be able to do that 511 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 4: for my people. I love y'all's deep. 512 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, appreciate you well. You know you can always 513 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: reach out to me whenever you have anything going on. 514 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: Make sure one more time plug your weekly wellness classes 515 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: and say actual Instagram too, for the audio listeners who 516 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: won't see what we put on screen. 517 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, what is my actual the fabulous Tokara, the 518 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 4: fabulous to Kara Jones. Yeah, the fabulous to Kara Jones 519 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 4: t O C C A R A. But I also 520 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 4: have an intimate, an intimate, an intimate line, an intimate longer. 521 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: I do brals. 522 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 4: I do bras for naturally big breast in women. Oh yeah, yeah, 523 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 4: we'll talk about that another time. Okay, I'll talk to 524 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 4: you soon. 525 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 3: And thank you again. 526 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: All right, I love you too. Congratulations on everything too, Mama, 527 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: Thank you. 528 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: I appreciate it.