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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature Future production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology,

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Speaker 1: and today on the show fresh watt as in what

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Speaker 1: the heck is in fresh water? Because folks, sometimes it's weird.

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Speaker 1: We are talking about some of the weirdest things that

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Speaker 1: you would not expect to find in bodies of fresh water.

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Speaker 1: We all know the ocean is crazy in full of aliens,

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Speaker 1: but in your local pond, in your marshlands, I don't

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Speaker 1: think I would expect to find an alien, and yet

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Speaker 1: there they are. Joining me today is my friend co

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Speaker 1: founder of Small Beans, podcaster filmmaker abe E Person. Welcome.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about weird stuff today.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Katie, thanks for bringing me on to your bog episode.

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Speaker 3: I know that it's the bog, you know, Like, I'm

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Speaker 3: just glad that.

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Speaker 2: We've gotten to this point in our relationship where you're

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Speaker 2: like still water, fresh water, ponds of scum.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's a real kind of deal. I'm real

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Speaker 3: excited right here.

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Speaker 1: You bring a real stagnant energy that I need for

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Speaker 1: my bog episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it, and I'm here for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because I'm a I'm a bog animal myself, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think that we should all be more appreciative of bogs.

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Speaker 1: They give us cool things like peat, moss and mummies, yes,

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Speaker 1: and weird fish and weird animals. But yeah, we are

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Speaker 1: talking about because you know what, there is something like

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Speaker 1: primely spooky about water that is not it's it's fresh water,

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Speaker 1: but it's not so fast, right, It's like kind of

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Speaker 1: slow moving fresh water, like in marshes because there could

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Speaker 1: be anything in there, and it's usually slimy, and it's

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Speaker 1: like it's got it's got kind of a witch vibe.

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Speaker 1: Witch talk. Are you listening, there's a witch talk. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And it's also like the place in which we sometimes

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Speaker 2: get our water, which is necessary for our life and

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Speaker 2: also produces one of the things that kills us the most,

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Speaker 2: like in mosquitoes, you know. So it's so it's this

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Speaker 2: thing that we just keep coming back to. I know

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Speaker 2: we're probably destined as everything on the earth is from

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Speaker 2: salt water. But it's like a it's it's it's a hoax. Really,

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Speaker 2: fresh water is a hoax.

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Speaker 1: Fresh Water is there's nothing fresh about it, folks. It's

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Speaker 1: full of little tiny pieces.

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Speaker 2: Of Hey, is that an ocean? No, it's way tinier

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Speaker 2: and doesn't taste like salt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, we are going to talk about some weird, wild,

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Speaker 1: slimy stuff you can find in your very own body

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Speaker 1: of fresh water. So, if you've ever been, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: to a lake, maybe a lagoon, perhaps you have had

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Speaker 1: the luck of seeing a lumpy, bloated alien looking mass. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not me after eating chili. This is called a

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Speaker 1: fresh water briozoan. So have you ever seen? Aby sent

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Speaker 1: you some photos I'm looking. I hope you like it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for sending these to me.

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Speaker 1: You're You're welcome this. The first one is what I

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Speaker 1: would like you to draw your attention to. What are

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Speaker 1: you looking at?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking in an egg from the movie Alien

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Speaker 2: that just a guy is holding in front of what

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Speaker 2: looks like a series of lily pads. That there's no

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Speaker 2: way that there isn't treasure inside that I want to

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Speaker 2: get in there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, crack it open, slurp.

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Speaker 3: It up, slurp it up.

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Speaker 2: It's probably full of goo and slime and stuff that's

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Speaker 2: just good for like nutrients, you know, stuff that's good for.

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Speaker 1: Me, Probably nutrients Okay. You know what's funny, abe is

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Speaker 1: that I have been struggling with a disease known as GIRD.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard of Are you familiar with the calamity?

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Speaker 1: That is god, not the specifics, but it is gastro

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Speaker 1: intestinal reflux wait, gastro gastro reflex esophageal disease. Anyways, it

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Speaker 1: means I get heartburn like a lot and it sucks.

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Speaker 1: So I I asked, asked around to pharmacists give me

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Speaker 1: something for this, and I tried some some pills and

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Speaker 1: it didn't really do anything. So then a pharmacist is like, look,

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Speaker 1: what you gotta do is take this, take this box

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Speaker 1: of mysterious little packages of liquid and just you know,

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Speaker 1: just gunshot these. Shotgun just shotgun these. Every time you

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Speaker 1: eat anything. It's like, okay, great. It is apparently sodium

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Speaker 1: alginate and it is a kind of goop that I

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Speaker 1: guess it is algae based, and they have sweetened it

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Speaker 1: to make it kind of taste like cream soda, but

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Speaker 1: not quite because it mostly tastes like slime. And so

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Speaker 1: I have been learning how to imbibe this like almost

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Speaker 1: cream soda tasting, but mostly like algae pond scum tasting thing.

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Speaker 1: I've got a little shot glass because at first I

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Speaker 1: tried to just like go gurt it, you know, like

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Speaker 1: like put it direct, like squirt it directly in your mouth,

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Speaker 1: and it was obscene and I didn't like it. So

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Speaker 1: now I have a little shot glass full of my

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Speaker 1: pond scum and it is actually helping my tummy feel better.

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Speaker 2: So so you got your little slimy peptobysmo that you take.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got I've got my little bog brow, my

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Speaker 1: little my little goblin drink that I drink every day.

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Speaker 2: Little packets of somehow I assume related to stories is

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Speaker 2: related to this organism.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's it's not really other than it's gowy

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Speaker 1: and sliming. And you were reminding me of this because

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Speaker 1: we were talking about slurping this.

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Speaker 2: Up up Nature's gusher.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's it is like Nature's gusher. And you

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Speaker 1: know the thing that I worry about is that now

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Speaker 1: I'm going to form this positive association with this pond scum,

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Speaker 1: medical pond scum that I'm drinking because it makes my

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Speaker 1: tummy feel a lot better. So now I'm starting to

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Speaker 1: look at slimy stuff from ponds and going like, maybe

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Speaker 1: I should just slurp that up. That is that might

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Speaker 1: make me feel better.

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Speaker 2: What a wonderful little caress. So what a cavalcade of

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Speaker 2: chaos life is?

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Speaker 1: You know? Here we go from marinera sauce making my

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Speaker 1: tummy hurt to me wanting to eat a fresh water

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Speaker 2: Now you're just a zombie.

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Speaker 1: I'm just now just gonna be a bog monster. So

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Speaker 1: I was in Minnesota. Actually, I was walking with my

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Speaker 1: like an eggsack. I thought maybe it was like some

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Speaker 1: kind of bloated dead frog, and so I went over

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Speaker 1: just like an orb, a lumpy orb. And I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't like try to poke it open

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Speaker 1: I just like it seemed more or less hollow though,

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Speaker 3: Balloon, like so Spongy had some kids.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's yeah, it was like it was. It

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Speaker 1: looked exactly like this this picture, and it it is

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Speaker 1: like a brownish green, very lumpy texture. Uh and it yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like a I don't know, it's like a flesh balloon,

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Speaker 1: as slimy flesh balloon. And I was like, what, I'd

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Speaker 1: to like googling things like like a slimy ball in

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Speaker 1: pont flush balloon. Most of these searches did not bring

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Speaker 1: me what I needed, but finally I found I found

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Speaker 1: that this is Yeah, this is fresh water, a freshwater browzone,

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Speaker 1: which is really really interesting because this is an animal, abe, right, Like.

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Speaker 2: This is organism. This isn't like the byproduct that like detaches. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is wonderful, Like this is this is so alien that,

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Speaker 2: like I sometimes I look at Mother Nature and I go,

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Speaker 2: what what great jokes you have? You know, I.

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Speaker 1: Will I will smoke what she's smoking exactly exact.

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Speaker 2: So what does it do? Like, I mean, I guess

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Speaker 2: that's a stupid question to ask for animals, what do

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Speaker 1: What do you do?

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Speaker 2: But like, what's your deal?

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Speaker 1: What's what you're doing?

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Speaker 2: What scammer? Are you running?

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Speaker 1: I mean it passively sits there and absorbs nutrients and

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Speaker 1: then that's pretty much it. Yeah, so it is actually

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Speaker 1: so what this is is actually a colony organism. So

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Speaker 1: I did say it's an animal, but maybe more accurate

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Speaker 1: it is to say that it is animals. This is animals.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of tiny, uh like microscopic animals. It

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Speaker 1: is a it is a colony organism. So Briozoans actually

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Speaker 1: most of them actually live in marine environments and they

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Speaker 1: can look very different. They can actually be really pretty,

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Speaker 1: kind of have like this lacey, coral like appearance. But

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Speaker 1: freshwater briozoans is bringing big bog energy because none of

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Speaker 1: them are really pretty. They are all just like big, bulbous,

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Speaker 1: gouey green slimeball, which I actually love. So the freshwater brizones,

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Speaker 1: also called phylactoalamatta, are found in lakes, ponds, lagoons, marshes,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of zooids. So zooids are tiny animals that

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Speaker 1: form a larger organism. And so there is a specific

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Speaker 1: species of freshwater briozone called the magnet eficent briozoon that

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Speaker 1: you probably if you live in North America, you might

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Speaker 1: if you if you like me, enjoy a good a

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Speaker 2: You just hanging around, Yeah, get a little hat, make

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Speaker 1: You know, this would make a fine hat.

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Speaker 2: This is I did not know this existed. This is awesome.

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Speaker 3: I love that I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: I you know, I have to admit I didn't know

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Speaker 3: This is fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Not only does it look awesome, I mean like, if

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Speaker 2: you're into which I assume your audience, there are a

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Speaker 2: bunch of freaks who are just into.

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Speaker 3: Whatever animals you compliment.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure, for sure, I love freaks. But

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Speaker 2: I assume that they're just like, you know, like slip

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Speaker 2: down whatever you know. You're selling in terms of like

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Speaker 2: I got some animals, you know.

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Speaker 1: My weird goo that makes you tell me feel better?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ya, you're selling your wares.

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Speaker 2: And this is like this is not only unique in

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Speaker 2: like from in terms of like I I've never seen

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Speaker 2: Let me ask a question, and it's it's a part

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Speaker 2: of what I was asking before of like what's what's

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Speaker 2: your deal? Do any does anything eat this naturally? Like

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Speaker 2: how does this work in the larger eco system, because

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Speaker 2: like this is fascinating to just passively kind of develop

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Speaker 2: where it's just kind of like a part of the

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Speaker 2: scum that just you know, from our perspective when we

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Speaker 2: look at like stuck water, you know, like animals, we're

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Speaker 2: just like, well, that's just gonna exist and that that's

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Speaker 2: that's a good story for that, good for that, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but like this has got to be a vital part

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Speaker 2: of someone's life, right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's interesting because the purpose of this kind

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Speaker 1: of colony structures it makes it less likely that they're

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Speaker 2: Is it flesh? Because it's like flesh? Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's not like a fish. I get that it's pond

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Speaker 1: Yeah maybe, Well, you know, I just get out there,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's, yes, exactly. But we are going to take

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Speaker 2: I did not.

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Speaker 3: I didn't exist in the South.

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Speaker 2: I'm a Californian boy, so I don't know anything about catfish.

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Speaker 2: I've never really eaten catfish, which is most of my

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Speaker 3: Have I eaten it? And what does it taste like?

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Speaker 3: But tell me about this catfish.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: It's such a pudgy little like. Ah, it looks like

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Speaker 1: He's like a little ding dong. Yeah, like the dog.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, it's like face has been squashed.

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Speaker 1: Its face is a little dinga space. I love it.

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Speaker 1: And it's like kind of big but also downturned. It's

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Speaker 2: So these are also like you in that they they

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Speaker 1: They do have to slurp up algae. It keeps coming

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Speaker 1: They slurp algae from rocks and other surfaces with their big, dumb,

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Speaker 2: Like I love it's so much you might think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 3: It's they're very cute.

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Speaker 1: They would make a cute like body pillow.

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Speaker 3: You know exactly. And they're enormous. They're I love that,

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Speaker 3: Like just like the pond.

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Speaker 2: There's one photo that you sent me of a bunch

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Speaker 2: So if I'm to understand exactly what's going on in

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Speaker 2: like I'm just what's that I'm going to suck on

435
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 2: that rock?

436
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, it was around sucking on rocks and getting

437
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: picked up by people trying to take photos. They grow

438
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: really fast though. They actually can grow over seventy pounds

439
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 1: or thirty kilograms per year. Whoa, and they can live

440
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: to be over fifty years old.

441
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: Ash so awesome.

442
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: It's really sad though, because they are critically endangered because

443
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: of the habitat loss overfishing. It's illegal now to fish them.

444
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: But also just look like I can't imagine. Maybe I

445
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: guess like if I have to feed my family, but

446
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: I'd feel so bad looking at that face, being like

447
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: all right, I gotta kill you know me?

448
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 2: You're good?

449
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: You can feel me. You just like so sad.

450
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: It's just, you know, the boon of lazy fishermen everywhere.

451
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: I know you could probably just like it feels like

452
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: a fish that is moving so slowly that you can

453
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 2: just grab it, Like you don't need a tool to

454
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: kill this thing, which that makes that makes some sense

455
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: of why it's endangered. It saddens me greatly because I

456
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: wonder what a wonderful existence just kind of slurping around

457
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 2: like a big dumb dumb dummy. I love you. I'm

458
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: in love with this little low eyed it's just drag.

459
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: Its face is incredible. I do have it in this

460
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: show notes it's face or if you want to google

461
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: a may Kung giant catfish. The face is. It's very photogenic.

462
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: It's like what if what if your forehead was a mouth?

463
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: The thing is if you flip the face. Actually, it

464
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: makes more sense if you like rote. I'm actually gonna

465
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: do that for myself. I'm going to rotate it. If

466
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: I can't, d oh, it looks like it's smiling upside down.

467
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: Wait in your document. I'm going to rotate this for you.

468
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: Hang on, please, it's the bottom one with the like

469
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: National Geographic logo on it. Don't tell me. I just

470
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: flipped that around, like look at it.

471
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: Hit me.

472
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: It looks like it makes more sense now. It's like

473
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: like the eye looks more normally play.

474
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, exactly. Like I know we're not here to

475
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: pass judgment on Mother Nature and her concoctions, but like

476
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: I'm in between, like you really screwed up Mother Nature.

477
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: And also no notes, you know, like I love the

478
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: diversity that you create, but like you really fumbled this one.

479
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: You really got it backward for no reason I love.

480
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't find like a specific reason why it's eyes

481
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: are like that. I would assume though, because it just

482
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: slurps the algae that it's just like look down for

483
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: the algae.

484
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense.

485
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: It's like almost all stimulaly, you know, like eyes and

486
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: you know, like silly as you mentioned earlier, and just

487
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: like it's always just reaching like trees reach for the sun.

488
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always just.

489
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, nutrition, nutritive goo.

490
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: It's fascinating.

491
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: Now on to our other big boy. Like this is

492
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: the other largest freshwater fish. It is the giant freshwater stingray.

493
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: It is actually the largest stingray in the world. And

494
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: it's just like hanging out and hiding around in fresh water.

495
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: It is It certainly has the largest diameter of any

496
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: freshwater fish. It is found in Southeast Asia. They are

497
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: related to marine rays. But yeah, these are huge. They

498
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: grow over seven feet in diameter, which is over two meters,

499
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: and they can weigh over six hundred and fifty pounds,

500
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: which is around three hundred kilograms. Yeah, it's huge.

501
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: Get out, Get out of fresh water. Yeah, get in

502
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: the ocean.

503
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: What are you doing like to me like that, this

504
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: is way too big to exist, Like like this is

505
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 2: in rivers, I assume, yeah, yeah, this is like and

506
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: fresh Amazon or you know this is actually so this

507
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: is found in Southeast Asia, so not in them, yeah,

508
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: but in like in.

509
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: Like rivers, slow moving rivers and like lakes. Uh, and

510
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: so yeah it is uh. It actually looks like like

511
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of brown, so it kind of looks like

512
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: a giant alien pancake.

513
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: It's the the photo that you have is terrifying because like, so,

514
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: you know, let's break down the biology. I understand exactly

515
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: what's going on in every part of this organism. It's

516
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: got the fan part, you know, like sting ray, you know,

517
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: get the floppy bits but then there's a center mass

518
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: that is basically a torso like a human torso it

519
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: looks like kind of ribsolved.

520
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: It does kind of look like a pancake, a monster pancake,

521
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: like eight a human and like digested it. And then

522
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: there's just like a human like rib cage in there

523
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: that's like actually the top part of the the the array,

524
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: and it's like there that may those like lines may

525
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: actually be some bones because these are bony fish and uh,

526
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, the underside is where you would find like

527
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: its mouth and stuff like it's it actually has like

528
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: near its mouth and electroreceptor kind of area where it

529
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: can detect the electrical signals of its prey, which would

530
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: be like fresh water crustaceans and stuff. So it is

531
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: it is very strange, very very strange animal. It's covered

532
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: in mucous so we've got another slime boy on our hands.

533
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: This is a very slimy episode. And they also have

534
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: they are a sting ray, so they do have a

535
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: fifteen inch toxic stinger that is strong enough and media

536
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: enough to punch through human bone, human bone, human bone.

537
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: It can pierce your bones.

538
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 3: What is that for? What are you taken down?

539
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: Buddy.

540
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: It is defensive, but also to take down it's prey

541
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: like freshwater crabs, and it is it seems.

542
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: Like overkill for freshwater crabs. I'm sorry, perhaps a little bit.

543
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: But you know what is interesting is that apparently they

544
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: are not very aggressive. So even though they have a

545
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: stinger that could probably just skewer us, right, I think

546
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: it could just impale a person. I don't think. I

547
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: don't think they're known to really do that because they're

548
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: pretty chill. They don't really want to mess with us.

549
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: They're like politely inquisitive apparently, which is really cute. They are.

550
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes fishermen do go after them, and if they do,

551
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: like hook one of these, then they will fight back.

552
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: And it's wild because they're so big they can pull

553
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: like a small fishing boat under water, which just sounds like,

554
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: why would you tussle with this giant murder pancake that

555
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: can like drag you into this murkt absolutely like sediment

556
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: filled water. That is like my worst nightmare.

557
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: I I am like in awe that a part of

558
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: its process isn't to just envelope you like a bruto

559
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: and just be like and that's it.

560
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: Kind of yeah, it does look kind of like the

561
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: alien from Nope, right, like just like a big murder

562
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: pancake sky whale.

563
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like this flat. It's again amazing way to

564
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: go fresh water. I did not think that you packed

565
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: so many, you know, like demons. Yeah, frankly, this is

566
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 2: a demon.

567
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 1: I do kind of want to like lie on top

568
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: of it, like use it as sort of just like

569
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: a cushion.

570
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's another body pillow.

571
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: Little Yeah.

572
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 2: Right.

573
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: We have a lot of like nap friendly animals on

574
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: this episode, like the giant catfish that's like a body pillow,

575
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: the Brozone Briozon, which is kind of like I feel

576
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: like I could rest my head on that. It's like

577
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: an air airplane. Nice airplane pillow. This one like sort

578
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: of a yoga around Matt.

579
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I wrap myself in it as

580
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: long as I had control, because it feels too muscly.

581
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously it's a fish.

582
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it would defend itself if it felt

583
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: like you were like doing something and didn't like And

584
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: it does have that fifteen inch long toxic stinger that

585
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: I did mention that can punch through bones. So maybe

586
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: not a great idea. Maybe not a great idea.

587
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: But I feel like this is like you said that,

588
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: they're not really that uh you know, aggressive aggressive, So

589
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: like I feel like this is a familiar in a

590
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: D and D campaign.

591
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we could be friends.

592
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I'm like me and you. I'll

593
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: feed you some something. And you're obviously a spawn from Satan,

594
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: but that's fine. You and me are going to be

595
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: best pals, and I'm gonna use you as a blanket

596
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: and also hug you in your terrifying rib cage.

597
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: That's so sweet. We're going to take a quick break

598
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: and when we get back, we're going to talk about

599
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: one more very weird animal that you can find in

600
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: fresh water.

601
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: So you'll be right back.

602
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: So now we're talking about toe biters biting them toes.

603
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 1: Uh oh yeah. So these are giant water bugs. Hooray.

604
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: So giant water bugs are giant bugs that you find

605
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: in water. They usually grow around an inch to two

606
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: inches long. There are some species that can grow up

607
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: to four and a half inches long, which is eleven

608
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: and a half centimeters. They are found all over the

609
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: world in fresh water habitats, and there are many species

610
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: in this family. The family is called bellow stone Matidae,

611
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: and most of them are these like flat, brown, oval

612
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: shaped bugs. They're just like these kind of beatly looking

613
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: bugs with their flat and they've got really meaty legs.

614
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: So all of them are weird and kind of scary looking.

615
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: But let's just talk about the absolute most weirdo ones,

616
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: like the most upsetting thing that you could find brushing

617
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: against your foot. So sorry, So yes, yeah, I'm.

618
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: Looking at a photo that you've sent me, and you

619
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: mentioned the meaty legs like that was the you know,

620
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: that was the headliner. Yes, and I'm not going to

621
00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 2: disagree with you, but like, let's talk about what is

622
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 2: its body?

623
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: It's it's the bulblessness of it, right, the pustules that

624
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: you're worried.

625
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: About, the pustules like you're you're you're gonna you're gonna

626
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: sit there and act like that's not full of spiders,

627
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: because like I I won't allow you to do that.

628
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: Can you get can you guess what these like? Uh?

629
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: What he's looking at is like these many protrusions like

630
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: almost like the like the like the inside of a pomegranate,

631
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: but it's on this bugs back and they're kind of oblong.

632
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: Uh so what what do you think those are?

633
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: So they obviously detach and invade the earth in a row.

634
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: In emeric film, they shoot themselves into the White House

635
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: and take over with duplicates of the President. I have

636
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 2: no clue what those things do. I assume that there's

637
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: some because they're running in a series. Because it's like,

638
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: you know, much like the you know, shell of a

639
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 2: turtle or the scales of an armadillo. I assume it's

640
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: some kind of protection. Maybe there's a sensory involvement in there.

641
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: Are you like you tell me you're the expert.

642
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: You're much closer with the like they'll like go into

643
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: the President and I don't know what they launched, like

644
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: give birth to a bunch of little presidents like they

645
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: are these are eggs. These are eggs stuck to the

646
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: back of this thing.

647
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 3: They're just taking a ride exactly.

648
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: And when you say therefore protection, it's actually the inverse.

649
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: The beetle or the not beetle, the giant water bug

650
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: is the one protecting the egg. So uh, the so

651
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: the way this works, I love this. This is some

652
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: great parental care from these giant water bugs. And also

653
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: we love a society where both the sexes take care

654
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: of the young because the female will lay her eggs

655
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: on top of the male's back, and actually she has

656
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: like a secretion that glues these eggs to his back,

657
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 1: and he'll litter do that, and so the male carries

658
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: these eggs on his back and then he's able to

659
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 1: protect them from predators who would otherwise just like get

660
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: a free lunch by slurping up these eggs. But now

661
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: you've got this giant water bug going around with his

662
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: eggs on his back. And if you're gonna try to

663
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: pluck one of these eggs off of them like a grape,

664
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna bite you. And they can bite really hard

665
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: and it hurts apparently really bad.

666
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: Okay, good, good for it. Yeah, you know I love that.

667
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: So mom just kind of packs off.

668
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, we love to see it. We love to

669
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: see it.

670
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: Love to see it.

671
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 3: Man, I wish flip the patriarchal.

672
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's more or less my plan. If I

673
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: have a kid, I'm just gonna stick that baby on

674
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: a baby bjorn, put it on my husband and be

675
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: like all right, good luck, bye bye.

676
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna see the world. And by the world, I

677
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 2: mean like yeah, four to eight feet that is our palm.

678
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but just imagine that with like fifty babies and

679
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: fifty baby bjorns and you're just covered in babies and

680
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, you see ya.

681
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: I love that, Like the organism doesn't like I know

682
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: that we're talking about invertebrates, so like we're not like

683
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: it's not like a you know, pregnancy, but usually, like

684
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, like usually animals have some form of

685
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: like protect the baby. This one is just like I

686
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: know you said, the males will bite, you know, if

687
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: like someone is trying to pluck these eggs out, but

688
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: they're so exposed. It's almost like, take my children before

689
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: you attack me. I will form a shield of my children.

690
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: It really does feel like because that's where the predators

691
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: are coming from, is the top right, This is a

692
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: bottom dweller. Yeah, it's low to ground, even I assume underwater.

693
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: When I explain this other species, I think you'll get

694
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: a better understanding of why animals might avoid trying to

695
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: do that. So, like I said, a lot of these

696
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: species are known as toe biters because they will bite

697
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: you really hard, which can be incredibly painful. It's not

698
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 1: necessarily dangerous unless you happen to be a little little

699
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: fish or turtle, because these bugs actually can eat fish

700
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: and small turtles and snakes, because they're so so good

701
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: at biting in a way that is really disturbing. So

702
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: many awesome, many species of giant water bugs are oracious predators.

703
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: So kirk Kirkaldia dei roli, found in freshwater habitats and

704
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: rice fields in Asia, have been documented to hunt and

705
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: eat fish, small turtles, snakes. I saw some things about

706
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: like maybe even eating like baby birds, like baby ducklings,

707
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: but I think it's probably God, I don't know that.

708
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: I think that it's probably like they are in the water,

709
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: so it's anything that they can grab that happens to

710
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: be in the water. So their front legs are very beefy,

711
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: and they basically like put their prey in like a

712
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: half nelson, uh, And then they have this hard proboscus

713
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: that they stab into their prey. And the proboscis is

714
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: like it's like this mouth, this sharp mouth.

715
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: Tube mouth spears.

716
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: It's a mouth spear, perfect, thank you, And it injects

717
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: enzymes that break down the flesh of their prey. And

718
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: apparently it also has like a paralytic paralytic compound that

719
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: is apparently incredibly painful. Like it's not, like I said,

720
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: it's not generally harmful to humans in terms of it's

721
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: not gonna like put you in the hospital. But this

722
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: venom and this bite is like super super painful. But

723
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: what it does for its smaller prey like a fish,

724
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: is it renders them immobile and then they're just pumping

725
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: it full of digestive juices that like turns it into

726
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: a slurpe, and then the beatle just sucks it up.

727
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: So you know, I think that might be why having

728
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: the babies on its back is a good strategy, because

729
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: most animals are probably gonna learn, like to avoid this

730
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 1: horrifying thing.

731
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 2: That way to go again, mother nature. You just little

732
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: bite sized, candy sized versions of brutality running around the pond.

733
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: Don't even care about predators. They're like, yeah, eat me.

734
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put the most attractive part of my animal

735
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: right on my back because I am a murder toad.

736
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: That is what a fascinating little organism.

737
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's pretty creepy, but also like great,

738
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: it's a great dad. It's dad of the month.

739
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: It's a great dad.

740
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess is number one.

741
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: Dad got got a little spear there to protect the

742
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: children's Yeah, yeah, I love that. It also puts you

743
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: in a half Nelson, you.

744
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: Know, it really does.

745
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: It wants you, It wants you to tap out, yeah,

746
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: before it destroys.

747
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, good, good, good for these little guys. Love

748
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: them not so little. Actually some of them grow over

749
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: four inches long.

750
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: So you know if I saw that that, like, if

751
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: I saw that in my house, like a four inch

752
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: size one of these, I would not try to save it.

753
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you live in a bog, I

754
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: feel like you kind of because like that's probably the

755
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: only time you'd see it in your house. Of if

756
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: you live in a pond, like your house is just

757
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 1: inside of the pond. Uh.

758
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, I live in la Am I right.

759
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm making like, yeah, Heathcliff jokes

760
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: on your podcast.

761
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: It's fine. There's some kind of political joke there to

762
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: be made about the swamp.

763
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 3: And draining it, meaning it for the toe biters.

764
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: But then the toe biters are going to come get you,

765
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: and something about medicare. I don't know. I'm so tired. Listen,

766
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: let's do a little game. I like to call gets

767
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: to squawk on the Mystery Animal sound game. Every week

768
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: I play mister Animal Saund and you the listener, and

769
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: you the guests, try to guess who is making that sound.

770
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: It can be any animal in the world. And just

771
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: to remind you, animals include everything folks like insects, spiders, birds, bugs, frogs, cats, dogs, donkeys, uh, snakes, everything,

772
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: So it could be any of those things. I keep

773
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: going monkeys, squirrels.

774
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: You're killing it.

775
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: Okay, I named every animal that exists, so you're a

776
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm so glad someone recognizes it.

777
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, I am amazed.

778
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. The hint for last well, actually the week before

779
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: last week, mister animal Sam is this. Uh these little

780
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: guys are free living exterminators. All right, Abe, did you

781
00:47:58,840 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: hear that little like kick?

782
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: Yep, the cackle, Nature's little cackle, like try to defy me?

783
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: Is like, what that organism? So you're saying to the cackle,

784
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: I mean it honestly sounds mammalian, like it's doesn't sound

785
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: like a bug to me. I feel like I'm gonna

786
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: get dunked on in a second, because like I don't

787
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: like pride myself on knowing you know, like sounds of

788
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 2: organisms and being like to play this game. I don't

789
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: think I'm particularly good at this game, but like, that

790
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: sounds like a rodent to me.

791
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, this game is designed not for education,

792
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: not for fun, but just to make you feel bad,

793
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: to make you feel.

794
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: Bad, just for you to feel superior on your guests

795
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: for just a brief second of happiness.

796
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: Actually, no, fool, this is not a rodent. No, I

797
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: mean it does really sound like it sounds like a chipmunk, right,

798
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: it sounds like like some kind of rodent, maybe a chipmunk,

799
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: maybe a squirrel. But no, this is actually the call

800
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: of the common house gecko. This is a gecko making

801
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: this little call.

802
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 2: Wow.

803
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. There are a small brown, kind of pale brown

804
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 1: gecko found in Asia and Oceania.

805
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: Uh.

806
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: They like to hang around human homes, thus the name

807
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: house gecko. And they eat have bugs for you, bell

808
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: eat cockroaches, termites, wasps, moths, flies, crickets. So honestly, seems

809
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: like a mutually beneficial situation. I would much rather have

810
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: one of these little cute guys there. They're just a

811
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: cute little gecko, and I'd much rather have one of

812
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: those going around than like termites and cockroaches. So hey,

813
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: oh yeah, for sure, they're like the best roommate that

814
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: you could have, Like they're killing bugs.

815
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: For you and the las fun all the time, Like yeah,

816
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,959
Speaker 2: they're the court jesture and like I feel like it's

817
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 2: the cat. Yeah, they're like.

818
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: This episode is like I think this episode is like

819
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: just tailor made for bog witches. So I hope you've

820
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: all all all my witches out there. I hope you've

821
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: enjoyed this. H onto this week's mystery animal. Sound. The

822
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: hint is this you're not gonna find this hen on

823
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: a farm. Uh, and it'll make this call till it's

824
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: red in the face. All right, any guesses abe?

825
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 3: So at the end there was that like multiple of them.

826
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was.

827
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: Because there was like a like a paused chirp that

828
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: was kind of happened.

829
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there was more. I think there was

830
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: more than one.

831
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 2: And the second part and then it found it sounded

832
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: like it found a friend.

833
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, gosh, I mean that does sound like.

834
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:14,479
Speaker 2: A bird because the repetition, but like I also want

835
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: to say.

836
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: Frog, yeah heard or a frog. I'll give you, I'll

837
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: give it.

838
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: Uh, I'll go frog Frog.

839
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: All right, very interesting gifts. I will another little hint,

840
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: just a freebel throw, and is that since this episode

841
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: has been very very swampy, uh, that is that it

842
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: is on theme, on brand with the rest of this episode. Well,

843
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: I but I will reveal the answer on next week's

844
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: episode of Creature Feature. Abe, thank you so much for

845
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: joining me today and marchhen it up with me this.

846
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: I really I just love weird stuff you find in water.

847
00:51:54,280 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 2: Me too. I love Mother Nature and the ability that

848
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: she has to, you know, just blow my mind with

849
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: dumb animals that I want to apparently put in my

850
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: bed and sleep with. Yeah, that seemed to be both

851
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 2: of our ten throughout this episode.

852
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: Super cute. If there was like a plush version of it,

853
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: I would buy that. It probably costs like five hundred dollars.

854
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: I buy it though. Where can people find you?

855
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: You know, if you like, you know, just my conversational

856
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: stylings and you can go over to patreon dot com

857
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: slash small means I co founded this little tiny I

858
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 2: guess you call it a network of podcasting. Yeah, they are,

859
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: and we talk about more or less pop culture, movies,

860
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 2: video games and such like that. I'm there with my

861
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 2: friends Michael Swam and Adam Ganzer, who are you know

862
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 2: if you remember all of us from Cracked Fame which Katie, Yeah,

863
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 2: who knows. But that's where I reside. And we're also

864
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Speaker 2: making a movie. We're filmmakers, and we've been making a

865
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Speaker 2: movie for a long time now. We're still in the

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Speaker 2: you know, pre production phases. And it's a movie about

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Speaker 2: a coming of age film where a teenager finds out

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Speaker 3: And so that's kind of like what we're up to.

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Speaker 1: That sounds excellent. I'm a I'm extremely excited for this movie.

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Speaker 1: I've heard about it and I think it sounds super interesting.

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Speaker 1: And I know movie making is a long process, but

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Speaker 2: thank you for being a fan.

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Speaker 1: I will remain steadfast and patient and when it comes out,

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