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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, September eighteenth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode
Speaker 1: number forty six. Welcome to another edition of The Break,
Speaker 1: live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star
Speaker 1: and Boyd. We have a lot to talk about today.
Speaker 1: It is Wednesday. The Cowboys are heading into their next
Speaker 1: game against the Miami Dolphins. We're gonna talk about the
Speaker 1: Dolphins a little bit, but I think there are things
Speaker 1: we'll probably want to talk about a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Dave has his scouting report on the Dolphins offense, how
Speaker 1: that matches up with the Cowboys defense, and we'll talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about some injuries on the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball for the Cowboys and how much that
Speaker 1: may affect this unit even against a team that you
Speaker 1: would think they should be able to beat. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about how baby those matchups work, and then if we
Speaker 1: have some time, we'll get to some questions. I know
Speaker 1: you guys have been sending me questions throughout the morning,
Speaker 1: so we'll try to get some of your questions answered
Speaker 1: here in the second and third segments of the show.
Speaker 1: How's everybody feeling this great? Perfect? Let's jump right in.
Speaker 1: Let's first talk about one tackle tackle. Charlton was not
Speaker 1: at practice today. I think we kind of confirmed that
Speaker 1: he was not there. What does that mean at this point?
Speaker 1: Because Eric Cowboys have to make a move today by
Speaker 1: three pm to add Robert Quinn officially to the roster.
Speaker 1: What does that mean? He's not going to be on
Speaker 1: this team anymore from what it sounds like, and they're
Speaker 1: trying to trade him if they can. If they don't,
Speaker 1: think they'll just let him go. Yeah, well said, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, uh, just like everything else with it,
Speaker 1: it's just murky, I don't know, Like he's not here.
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett didn't say anything about him not being here,
Speaker 1: but he's They're out of practice right now and he's
Speaker 1: not there. So it's pretty easy to connect those dots,
Speaker 1: even if we don't have any word from the team officially.
Speaker 1: It's frustrating. I get you know, we kind of heard
Speaker 1: that and frustrating hoping that maybe Jason would just say
Speaker 1: it then and he didn't. But I mean, if they're
Speaker 1: trying to trade him and rights, that makes sense. That's
Speaker 1: that would be the main reason why they wouldn't be
Speaker 1: saying anything is if they can get something for him,
Speaker 1: which if they could, I feel like they would have
Speaker 1: done it by now. So I don't know where this
Speaker 1: is going, but it certainly doesn't look like he's going
Speaker 1: to be on the team after today. I would think
Speaker 1: that there are teams out there that maybe starved for
Speaker 1: a defensive end, that don't necessarily think they want to
Speaker 1: risk the possibility of having to go him get through waivers.
Speaker 1: I mean, he is a former first round pick. If
Speaker 1: there were play, if there were teams that that liked
Speaker 1: him going into the draft. Maybe they didn't like him
Speaker 1: as high as the Cowboys did, but maybe they liked
Speaker 1: him going into the draft. You know, Cowboys do it
Speaker 1: all the time. They take these guys that other teams
Speaker 1: kind of cast off, and they say, you know, I
Speaker 1: think with our coaches, with our system, we saw something
Speaker 1: that we're like, you know, the team that first came
Speaker 1: to mind for me was a team like the Giants.
Speaker 1: It's a totally young team. They don't really have a
Speaker 1: dominant pass rush or not that he's necessarily going to
Speaker 1: step in and be that, But that's the kind of
Speaker 1: team to me that might take a chance and say, hey,
Speaker 1: let's bring this guy in. Let's see if we put
Speaker 1: him in our environment, put him in our program, if
Speaker 1: we can get the potential out of him that at
Speaker 1: least somebody thought he could play, Bill Parcels, You should
Speaker 1: always talk about that, like, if a guy gets drafted high,
Speaker 1: somebody thought he could play at some point. So is
Speaker 1: there a chance that you can maybe get something for him,
Speaker 1: And would one of those teams maybe be willing to
Speaker 1: step up and say, okay, here, take a seventh round
Speaker 1: pick we're gonna take, bring him in and just see
Speaker 1: what we can do with him. Yeah, it's totally possible.
Speaker 1: And that's probably what's happening right now is the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are trying to find a somebody who's willing to do that.
Speaker 1: You know, the interesting part too, is that I don't
Speaker 1: know what the agent's rolled is on this, because the
Speaker 1: agent probably doesn't really want to shop him around to
Speaker 1: try to get a trade because they'd rather just pick
Speaker 1: where they want to go, you know, as opposed to
Speaker 1: you know, somebody's saying we will trade for him, is like, well,
Speaker 1: he doesn't really want to go there, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Other than if someone picks him up off waivers,
Speaker 1: but through a trade or through waivers or trade, then
Speaker 1: they take the contract, he still gets the money that's
Speaker 1: on that contract. If he doesn't he's a free agent,
Speaker 1: does he get met less, does a team offer him less?
Speaker 1: It's a team willing to give him what he already
Speaker 1: has been given from that contract. So that would be
Speaker 1: a reason why maybe the agent is pushing to maybe
Speaker 1: get a trade to keep that money. Right. But if
Speaker 1: you get claimed, you get claimed, your contract gets claimed,
Speaker 1: so that's your clear waivers. And then my point is
Speaker 1: either way, the agent probably wants either him to be
Speaker 1: claimed or him to be traded, right, rather than him
Speaker 1: being just outright released because you might not get that money.
Speaker 1: Noah Spence, wasn't he like a high second round pick? Yeah,
Speaker 1: from a few years ago, and he was just signed
Speaker 1: by the Redskins. So yeah, I think I think you're right.
Speaker 1: I think teams will look at it and go, you know,
Speaker 1: let's stay good chance on him. You know, but like
Speaker 1: you said, if someone was starving for defensive end, I mean,
Speaker 1: just like in anything, if you were starving, one taco
Speaker 1: is not going to get it done. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's just the fact I was wondering how that was
Speaker 1: really good. If you're starving, you'll take it because you're starving.
Speaker 1: But you really hope there's like a you know, combo player.
Speaker 1: You don't want it taketo, right, you need a need
Speaker 1: a full burrito, like full burrito everything. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: jokes are endless here. Well they're about to come to
Speaker 1: an end, I think, but go ahead. It's just it's
Speaker 1: a frustrating thing to have to cover. I'm sure fans
Speaker 1: are tired of hearing about it. I'm tired of a
Speaker 1: good team and this like we're talking about number fifty
Speaker 1: four on the russ right, and and you know they're like,
Speaker 1: it's been going on for two weeks without a whole
Speaker 1: lot in the way of clarity on either side, and
Speaker 1: I'm just ready for it to not be a story anymore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope. I wish the best for him. If he's
Speaker 1: not going to be on this team. I mean, no
Speaker 1: ill will toward him as a person whatsoever. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's a bad person. I think this just wasn't
Speaker 1: a good thing for him or for the team personally. Well,
Speaker 1: he's not saying he's a bad person at all, but
Speaker 1: I think he's I think his uh, I think maturity
Speaker 1: was was an issue here a little bit, especially when
Speaker 1: it comes to you know, just like what does it
Speaker 1: mean to be part of the team. And you know,
Speaker 1: I know he was frustrated obviously, you know, and he
Speaker 1: but he never really when you don't live up to
Speaker 1: the first round expectations, I mean, it's tough, and he there,
Speaker 1: and he showed that in one of those games. Uh,
Speaker 1: one of the preseason games, I guess it was San Francisco,
Speaker 1: and I think we were all standing there and listening.
Speaker 1: We took had different takes on it, but I just
Speaker 1: thought right there by listening to it that it was
Speaker 1: gonna be hard, it's gonna be in this's not gonna
Speaker 1: end well because it just just his mindset right there,
Speaker 1: didn't seem like a guy that was hungry. To me,
Speaker 1: it was kind of like, it is what it is,
Speaker 1: and I'm okay with it. You guys kind of took
Speaker 1: it differently, But that's okay, sad. I mean, yeah, you had. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I've since training camp, I've been the one saying, okay,
Speaker 1: he was playing I was a dissip or embarrassment or whatever. Okay,
Speaker 1: yeah I did say something similar to that, But again
Speaker 1: it's at the time. Now, I just feel bad now
Speaker 1: that I kind of understand the situation, You're a little better.
Speaker 1: He's a really cool dude, he's a nice guy, but
Speaker 1: it all comes down to his personality. It just doesn't
Speaker 1: fit what Rotten Mary Nelly is about. It doesn't fit
Speaker 1: the guys around him, and when you have that, it
Speaker 1: creates problems and then you're not gonna be happy and
Speaker 1: just being walking around unhappy, it's just gonna be bringing
Speaker 1: more negativity around you. And I was asking around and
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, Okay, do you guys regret this
Speaker 1: decision of picking him in the first round, And it
Speaker 1: came down to, like, no, we would if we went back,
Speaker 1: we would have done exactly the same thing, because everybody
Speaker 1: in the room agreed at the time, this is what
Speaker 1: we're this is the highest guy that we have on here,
Speaker 1: and who is available at this point, and he fits
Speaker 1: what we're trying to get and what we need at
Speaker 1: the time. So sometimes it just works out. Sometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 1: They've gone really really lucky with like second round picks,
Speaker 1: third round pick, even fourth round picks. So for those
Speaker 1: people that get on Twitter and start saying, oh, what
Speaker 1: a waste to a first round pick, you know, some
Speaker 1: work some done. So it is what it is, which
Speaker 1: you're not going to be one hundred percent in the draft.
Speaker 1: And this team has been so so good through the
Speaker 1: draft over the last five years that it would be
Speaker 1: silly to try to harp on this. But assuming Taco's
Speaker 1: time with this team is done, it's gonna look mystifying
Speaker 1: like Jet because it's it's such a it's such an
Speaker 1: outlier like not only you know, he never tapped into
Speaker 1: the talent to justify being the twenty eighth overall pick
Speaker 1: and everything we're you know, he's in the doghouse. His
Speaker 1: personality kind of clashes with the coaching staff and his teammates. Well,
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound like the minds that of the guys
Speaker 1: that they have spent high picks on in the past, right,
Speaker 1: like you know, the whole right kind of guy thing.
Speaker 1: You know. Line one is like, and I don't want
Speaker 1: to accuse Taco of not loving football, but like that's
Speaker 1: the way these lofty picks have been wired to where
Speaker 1: there's like no question about what they're about. Like you've
Speaker 1: never even Zeke, who's had his share of problems. Anybody
Speaker 1: you talk to in the organization will be like that
Speaker 1: dude is like he's all business when he's inside those
Speaker 1: four walls, Like you never question his commitment. You've never
Speaker 1: heard anything about him being a bad teammate or a
Speaker 1: bad football guy. And you have heard whispers and talk
Speaker 1: about that when it comes to Taco, which so not
Speaker 1: only the on field aspect of it, but the personality
Speaker 1: aspect of it. Like none of it sounds like it
Speaker 1: meshes with what they've done, right. But the problem with
Speaker 1: that is you never know what you're going to get
Speaker 1: until you get the guy in the building and the
Speaker 1: people that they were talking to, and again the stuff
Speaker 1: that's on the street, that's one thing. The stuff that
Speaker 1: they get when they talk directly to people who are
Speaker 1: connected to him, who've been around on him for years,
Speaker 1: all of that information is I'm sure what they factor
Speaker 1: in to decide what they think of persons. Of players
Speaker 1: makeup is their mental makeup, how they view football, what
Speaker 1: they what they value, right, And so all you can
Speaker 1: do really is go by those things and make your
Speaker 1: best determination and best prediction of what you think that
Speaker 1: player will be. And then you get him in the
Speaker 1: building and you may find out the sunction different again
Speaker 1: and you're absolutely right. But they haven't been wrong very often, right,
Speaker 1: And that's why I wouldn't change. And that's why I
Speaker 1: go back to what Amber said, and I kind of think, like,
Speaker 1: don't I saw it this morning. Dane Brugler, a guy
Speaker 1: who's worked with us, he was talking about this and
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, I think after this, maybe
Speaker 1: the Cowboys reevaluate how they look at this, because they
Speaker 1: they actually passed up on t J. Watt because it
Speaker 1: wasn't as much of a a as good a fit
Speaker 1: for what they were trying to do. And my thought was,
Speaker 1: I don't know that. You you've been so successful, you
Speaker 1: don't let one situation that didn't work out for you
Speaker 1: necessarily make you change your process. If you if you
Speaker 1: have a good process and you're doing well, and they
Speaker 1: have done really well in the draft, I think you
Speaker 1: stick with your process. Maybe you give it a second thought, like, hey,
Speaker 1: what did we get wrong on this one, and you
Speaker 1: rethink how that worked. But for the most part, I
Speaker 1: think they still kind of go the same way that
Speaker 1: they've been going and just say that, hey, there are
Speaker 1: gonna be sometimes you just don't win in the draft.
Speaker 1: There's there's absolutely no reason to call the way they
Speaker 1: do the draft into question over this when you look
Speaker 1: at the wild success they've had everywhere else, but it
Speaker 1: just looks mystifying compared to how good they've been everywhere else.
Speaker 1: Like it's you know, the sore thumb. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: circle it and bright red, like whoa, Yeah, that is
Speaker 1: way below the standard that they've said everywhere else. And
Speaker 1: this really isn't the first time that a first round
Speaker 1: picks has played like this and for three years, it's
Speaker 1: just one of the first times that they they've said,
Speaker 1: you know what, like Jason Garrett doesn't have a contract
Speaker 1: for next year, so why what do I care about
Speaker 1: the future and how these drafts look. I mean, let's
Speaker 1: get the best fifty three guys out there and the
Speaker 1: best forty six guys, and you know, if he's a
Speaker 1: first round pick, call though, I mean both of them probably,
Speaker 1: I mean, but Jason's making the call for who's playing right,
Speaker 1: so and then and then they're making the call for
Speaker 1: you know. I just think that the philosophy change is like,
Speaker 1: we don't really care where you were drafted, and we
Speaker 1: saw that was some of the drafts this year, you know.
Speaker 1: And then they cut the fifth round pick Mike Jackson
Speaker 1: because he didn't do anything, and they cut Taco that
Speaker 1: they gave him a few years, but he hasn't done anything.
Speaker 1: So Georg's Armstrong is better, Kerry Hyder is better, and
Speaker 1: Joe Jackson was better. So I mean, I just think
Speaker 1: that before though they used to not do that, more
Speaker 1: politics got involved. Now it's not as much, which is
Speaker 1: that's refreshing. It's also a sign of a lot more
Speaker 1: talent on the team right now. You don't have to
Speaker 1: do that as much. You it's harder to make this team,
Speaker 1: is harder to make the forty six. It's harder to
Speaker 1: be a starter because you got a lot of talent
Speaker 1: a lot of places. All right, let's take our first
Speaker 1: break and we come back. We're gonna get into the
Speaker 1: Miami offense. Dave's gonna give us a scouting report. Then
Speaker 1: we'll get to some questions. You guys can hit me
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Speaker 1: the second second of the Break Life from the s
Speaker 1: WBC Morti Studios at the Star. We're talking a little
Speaker 1: bit about the taco but we're gonna get into the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins offense. Uh, Dave, you get a scoutter report
Speaker 1: on them? Yeah, tell me what you found. You know,
Speaker 1: it would be easy to make jokes, and you know
Speaker 1: we can. You're a jokes I am good at people
Speaker 1: make jokes of all the Cowboys all the time. I'm
Speaker 1: going I'm gonna tell you what. I watched both of
Speaker 1: their games, the offense. I'll watch the defense tonight. I'll
Speaker 1: watch both of their games and yeah, it looks really bad,
Speaker 1: like there's no way around it. But you know they
Speaker 1: pay these guys too, so you never know. Um, they're
Speaker 1: thirty second in the league in total offense with one
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety two yards per game. They're not even
Speaker 1: cracking two hundred yards that last week they didn't get
Speaker 1: they were at thirty eight yards total yards in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter of the game. Oh my god, one hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty pass yards per game. That's thirty thirty thirty,
Speaker 1: give or take Russia it's per game they've they're scoring
Speaker 1: five points per game because they scored ten against Baltimore
Speaker 1: none against New England. Um, it's it's it's not good. Um.
Speaker 1: Their offensive line is a who's who of guys I've
Speaker 1: never heard of before. Laramy Tunsel no longer plays there,
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick you all know who he is, which as
Speaker 1: of right now, we're not one hundred percent sure. If
Speaker 1: it'll Eve nim be fits Magic. It might be Josh Rosen,
Speaker 1: who they traded for in the off season. I actually
Speaker 1: I like their running backs, like not like, yeah, they're
Speaker 1: not insanely like you know, you probably don't want either
Speaker 1: one of them like starting for you maybe. But Kenyan
Speaker 1: Drake is a fun, kind of do everything guy. I
Speaker 1: remember really liking Calen Bailidge coming out of Arizona State.
Speaker 1: He's six two, two thirty, kind of a bulldozer guy. Um, well,
Speaker 1: I better stats though, Oh I mean, well no, no,
Speaker 1: none of them, none of nobody's stats on Steam. But
Speaker 1: his stats. I think I think he's had five carries
Speaker 1: this year for nine yards. Yeah, well, and I'm not
Speaker 1: at ninety nine for five. I'm not trying to paint
Speaker 1: this guy like I'm not trying to paint either player
Speaker 1: as a great player, but like, this offensive line is trash.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get into it. You know, it's it's awful,
Speaker 1: It's really bad. Uh. DeVante Parker who you would call
Speaker 1: a disappointing first round pick, Albert Wilson, who I believe
Speaker 1: spent time with washing him a disappointe because he eat.
Speaker 1: But the reason why I say that, the reason why
Speaker 1: I say that is because I think he's had some
Speaker 1: some seasons where he was obviously much better than he
Speaker 1: is right now. But can you also, I mean he
Speaker 1: hasn't had a good quarterback When when is he had
Speaker 1: a quarterback that was worth anything? I mean, they bought
Speaker 1: enough of Tannehill to pay him, so that's an all
Speaker 1: good quarterback. We all know where's Tannahill now? I mean
Speaker 1: who's who's thrown all those who's thrown all those amazing
Speaker 1: passes to DeAndre Hopkins? Please do tell that would be
Speaker 1: one Deshahn Watson who hasn't like played a full season yet, Like,
Speaker 1: but he's DeAndre Hopkins has bawled with a lot of
Speaker 1: career quarterback. But you're talking about one of the best
Speaker 1: in the league. I'm not I can't let you do this.
Speaker 1: Derek DeVante Parker's best season of his career is fifty
Speaker 1: six catches for seven hundred and forty four yards. Its disappointing.
Speaker 1: It's disappointing. Okay, I'm saying, but how much do you
Speaker 1: have that? Do you put on the quarterback? If you're
Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying, you have to put some of
Speaker 1: that on the I'd like to see last week's game,
Speaker 1: but he was targeted seven times. How many catches? How
Speaker 1: many end up in the dirt? Don't know, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I don't know. All Right, we'll get we'll
Speaker 1: get there. Um, I should take a whole segment though.
Speaker 1: Right we're going all in on the Dolphins. I really
Speaker 1: like Jachim Grant out of Texas Tech. He's a kick
Speaker 1: return speeds through specialist. If he was he's Tavon, if
Speaker 1: he was your fifth or sixth receiver, you'd feel really
Speaker 1: good about it. But he's like their second or third receiver.
Speaker 1: It's not great. Um, you keep saying it's not good.
Speaker 1: It's not like I'm trying to be nice. Here's the one,
Speaker 1: the one nice thing I'll say for the Dolphins. Is
Speaker 1: I wonder how much this is skewed, but by what
Speaker 1: I assume an absolutely atrocious defense. I haven't watched him yet,
Speaker 1: but I wrote this down. The Ravens scored touchdowns on
Speaker 1: their first three possessions of the game, so you're in
Speaker 1: a twenty one zero hole at the start of the
Speaker 1: second quarter. Patriots were only up thirteen nothing at half,
Speaker 1: but then they scored like three of their first four
Speaker 1: drives of the second So again not saying they're good,
Speaker 1: but you're one dimensional out of the gate, like they're
Speaker 1: averaging thirty rushing yards per game because they can't. Can't.
Speaker 1: You can't run the ball when you're losing. The tween
Speaker 1: coordinator is saying, you know what, our offense didn't score
Speaker 1: their first three possessions of the game. I mean, so
Speaker 1: we're already down one dimensional because our offense isn't scoring
Speaker 1: all I know. We're sitting there in Washington like, Okay,
Speaker 1: the first three possessions haven't been good, but you're only
Speaker 1: down by seven points, like it matters. I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like he hasn't had his one call, right, is it,
Speaker 1: missus Harns. I don't think is it. I've never actually
Speaker 1: I felt devastated last night. I was watching on my
Speaker 1: laptop on my couch, taking notes, and in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter of this forty three nothing blowout, Hearns gets in
Speaker 1: the game, and Fitzpatrick's I'm just like Alan, No, come on,
Speaker 1: what was he supposed to do? He's supposed to just
Speaker 1: feed back here because I like Alan Hearns, and I
Speaker 1: feel bad that he's stuck in that mess. He's watching
Speaker 1: Devin Smith's score. Seriously, all right, I don't know that
Speaker 1: he would be able to do that. But Bryce still
Speaker 1: over there. No, he got cut, didn't he. I don't.
Speaker 1: I thought he got cut coming out of camp. All right,
Speaker 1: here's here. Here are my notes. I write my notes
Speaker 1: in my voice. So giving up tons of pressure on
Speaker 1: the edge. Fitzpatrick interception on third snap in the game,
Speaker 1: down fourteen nothing after two possessions. Lots of throws to
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, Like basically, this is what they do.
Speaker 1: They throw bubble screens and um tunnel screens to the
Speaker 1: receivers to get the ball out of Fitzpatrick's hands as
Speaker 1: quickly as possible because he doesn't have time, or they
Speaker 1: play fake and he throws a jump ball to DeVante Parker,
Speaker 1: which I think has worked twice. Not DeVante park He's
Speaker 1: a high point guy, like he can like that's what
Speaker 1: he can do. He can go up and sky over
Speaker 1: people and literally like if he's getting the ball, it's
Speaker 1: like thirty five yards down the field with two guys
Speaker 1: draped over him and they're just like, please catch this.
Speaker 1: Um Ravens pushing the f out of the pocket. That's
Speaker 1: what I wrote. Like he's just got guys in his
Speaker 1: lap and fits is making tons of these throws on
Speaker 1: the run like he's maybe got a second and a
Speaker 1: half before he's trying to step up and get to
Speaker 1: the right or the left so they can get anything
Speaker 1: that's half decent, Like I don't even want to be good,
Speaker 1: like anything that's just like, hey, this one thing. If
Speaker 1: you put him in the right situation, they may actually
Speaker 1: be able to do something with this. They don't give
Speaker 1: up sixty the best we can say. They don't give
Speaker 1: up sixty points. The defense will deal with them tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Give me something half decent about the offense. Their field
Speaker 1: goal in week one came from fifty four yards kick
Speaker 1: or could kick from long distance. That's good he did
Speaker 1: on that occasion. I'm biased because I do the draft
Speaker 1: show another guy feel bad for it. I like Mike Gasecki.
Speaker 1: He's their best type end. Uh, He's he's not well rounded.
Speaker 1: He's a receiver tight end. He does that type. He's
Speaker 1: he's got nice hands, like you can see like the
Speaker 1: mark of a good receiver. Like he snatches the ball
Speaker 1: like when the ball actually gets thrown to him. He
Speaker 1: does do that. He had He's had a couple of
Speaker 1: nice catches this year. He had a twenty six yard
Speaker 1: or against Baltimore. He had a couple of nice ones
Speaker 1: over the middle against New England. And I read an
Speaker 1: article that the word atrocious was was you know, the
Speaker 1: way to describe his blocking. He's not, oh like ending
Speaker 1: Patriots game. Apparently he was. My note My note here
Speaker 1: was LLL Gasecki way to block bro That's like, that's
Speaker 1: literally like he's just kind of love tapping defensive ends
Speaker 1: on their way past him. It's not great, He's not
Speaker 1: If you're not, you don't want him to block um,
Speaker 1: which I thought. I thought their interior offensive line was
Speaker 1: honestly better against New England. But then like four different
Speaker 1: times you see New England's edge rushers come around and
Speaker 1: push Fitzpatrick up into the pocket to the point where
Speaker 1: then the defensive tackles just hugging him. Uh it's their
Speaker 1: offensive line's not good. Um, so you're seeing Cowboys will
Speaker 1: just pass. Well, the score, I mean, yeah, they'll probably score.
Speaker 1: They'll I mean they'll I doubt it. I don't think
Speaker 1: I mean, scored ten points all season, right, They've given
Speaker 1: up one hundred two two. They'll score. They'll score just
Speaker 1: because again, I mean, the Cowboys defense has played kind
Speaker 1: of soft at the end of these games. The first
Speaker 1: two weeks. They gave up a you know, Evan Ingram
Speaker 1: had a Pat Statting touchdown and just said Pat Statting
Speaker 1: stat padding touchdown at the end of that game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like they'll score, probably just because you don't see NFL
Speaker 1: teams get shut out two weeks in a row very often.
Speaker 1: But like it won't be a lot, okay, and it
Speaker 1: won't be it shouldn't be impressive, Like, well, I'm judging
Speaker 1: this game. LSU played Northwestern State on Saturday, and the
Speaker 1: LSU fan base was irate that Northwestern State scored fourteen
Speaker 1: first half points. They lost sixty five to fourteen. But
Speaker 1: like that's the standard, and like I'm sort of judging
Speaker 1: this game based on that, Like, if it's in doubt
Speaker 1: going in the halftime, that you should be disappointed. But
Speaker 1: it's not good. So you've watched a lot of NFL football.
Speaker 1: You grew up a Saints fans, so yes, you've watched
Speaker 1: some bad football. I've watched a lot of foam. Is
Speaker 1: this the worst team that you've ever seen NFL team
Speaker 1: in two games that you've watched over two games? I
Speaker 1: think it's see you can answer it, But well, I
Speaker 1: saw on SVPs Sports Center the other night. Um, it's
Speaker 1: the worst scoring margin. It's tied for the third worst
Speaker 1: scoring margin in the history of the league. And like
Speaker 1: one of those one of those teams was like the
Speaker 1: Decatur Stalos, Rochester, the freaking you know, the RockHounds from
Speaker 1: like nineteen twenty two. So they're flirting with historic ineptitude.
Speaker 1: But I will say, you know, everybody, it's it's like
Speaker 1: the meme culture where everybody's so quick to pile on,
Speaker 1: like they'll they'll probably figure something out and approach something
Speaker 1: resembling competence. Maybe every problem the problem is they're doing.
Speaker 1: They're doing what I never wanted to see happen in
Speaker 1: the NFL, which is the true. But take the Browns.
Speaker 1: They're just like every but the Browns that they really
Speaker 1: just like, we're giving everybody away. It's a fire cell
Speaker 1: whoever you want to come get them. Like, that's what
Speaker 1: it feels like with the Dolphins. It does, and it does,
Speaker 1: it does, and they might be I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Browns win, oh in sixteen, but that's that's kind
Speaker 1: of my point. Is like even the own sixteen Browns
Speaker 1: gave a couple of teams a game, right, and they
Speaker 1: look like this, And that's my point, I think. But
Speaker 1: that's a thing like this, because here's my point with
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, I think, not only are they giving away
Speaker 1: or they're letting talent go in there they get they're
Speaker 1: getting back picks. So that's their strategy, I assume. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they still look at
Speaker 1: this and this is I don't know, I wonder if
Speaker 1: the locker room is now like they don't want to win,
Speaker 1: and yeah, what are we doing here now? You know?
Speaker 1: And so it's almost like you get into these games
Speaker 1: and their players are basically things go wrong. They just
Speaker 1: kind of give up a little bit. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: wondering about. And that's where it can become a bigger
Speaker 1: process for the rest of the NFL that this is
Speaker 1: just such an easy game for this is this is
Speaker 1: a longer conversation than we maybe have time for. But
Speaker 1: I do like I'm pro tank in the sense of,
Speaker 1: like I get what they're doing, Like acquired draft picks
Speaker 1: make your team better. Look how quickly Cleveland turned their
Speaker 1: roster around after they decided to do it. At the
Speaker 1: same time, you can't commit to it on such a
Speaker 1: level that, like your locker room just completely loses hope
Speaker 1: that they'll ever be happy again. If a twenty two
Speaker 1: year old first round pick Minka Fitzpatrick is begging off
Speaker 1: your team after a week, then how are you supposed
Speaker 1: to get better? Like he's supposed to be part of
Speaker 1: the core that you're building for the future, and he's like, nah, dude,
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think you trying to be
Speaker 1: bad to get picks makes sense, But like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you can commit to it on such a level,
Speaker 1: especially in a sport that literally risks your life, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you can commit to it so much
Speaker 1: that these guys just have no hope whatsoever. But I
Speaker 1: just history leads me to believe that they will. They
Speaker 1: won't be good, but like they'll kind of sort it
Speaker 1: out and won't be losing by forty points every week.
Speaker 1: I hope the test will be does every team take
Speaker 1: them seriously? That'll be the part that where they can
Speaker 1: sneak up on a team one week and just happen
Speaker 1: to make some magic work that gets them either a
Speaker 1: win or close to a win just because teams don't
Speaker 1: take them serious. Can I read? I'm stealing My favorite
Speaker 1: college football podcast is called The Solid Verbal, and they
Speaker 1: do this when an offense has a really bad performance.
Speaker 1: I'm going to read you their drive charts the results
Speaker 1: of their drives from the first and second half against
Speaker 1: New England. First half punt punt, punt, punt punt, second
Speaker 1: half interception, punt, punt, pick six, pick six, turnover on downs,
Speaker 1: turnover on downs, interception. I got, that's how well, that's
Speaker 1: how it ended. Their punt team doesn't allow any blocks. Good, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's something we can work that if what I'm watching for.
Speaker 1: I think I think tackling is big here because they
Speaker 1: try a lot of short stuff Like Fitzpatrick doesn't have
Speaker 1: time to do the traditional stuff. So I mean, like
Speaker 1: I said, more bubble screens into games then I'm used
Speaker 1: to seeing from most NFL teams, not like a college game. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: like very you know, Baylor Baylor type stuff like Texas does.
Speaker 1: Get it to the fast guys on the edge as
Speaker 1: quickly as you can because we're not going to have
Speaker 1: much of a pocket. So how the linebackers and DB's
Speaker 1: tackle is probably important. And uh and I bet you
Speaker 1: there'll be some effort. I'm going deep moments from Fitzpatrick,
Speaker 1: like because that's that's option number two, Like that's really
Speaker 1: sling it to I mean, he can do that. He
Speaker 1: can do that, that's part of his game. Those are
Speaker 1: the only things that I saw that worked. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to say consistently because they didn't, but like they're
Speaker 1: the only things I saw that really what would period
Speaker 1: I would say from the defensive line perspective on going
Speaker 1: up against that offensive line, there are are going to
Speaker 1: be some changes this week. I mean, just because it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like Antoine Woods will be ready to play,
Speaker 1: he might do something today, Garrett said. Tristan Hill will
Speaker 1: probably play there um as for Tyron Crawford, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but this this hip injury just seems
Speaker 1: like it's becoming sort of a problem. This might be
Speaker 1: a game where you rest him. Yeah, but then again,
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn comes in, you know, for for that role.
Speaker 1: So they they're pretty deep there on the defensive line.
Speaker 1: That I mean, if if if the guys that aren't
Speaker 1: playing are Woods and Crawford and you can replace them
Speaker 1: with Robert Quinn and Tristan Hell, that's pretty good. They're
Speaker 1: only touchdown of the season came against Baltimore when they
Speaker 1: were down forty two to three, and basically Baltimore was like, a,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to say that for sure,
Speaker 1: but you tell me how impressed you are. I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like I know, you know what. No, I keep saying,
Speaker 1: it's not my job to take them serious. No, it's there,
Speaker 1: and they're not. They're listening and probably getting frustrated with
Speaker 1: us because they're like, this is the NFL. But I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't look like an NFL exactly. That's it
Speaker 1: looks terrible. So Dave's right, like, you know, there's a
Speaker 1: reason why there's a twenty one point spread. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that is unheard of. I think there's been thirty
Speaker 1: five twenty plus point spreads in the history of the league.
Speaker 1: So the cowboysn't ever been involved in them. I don't
Speaker 1: know that, but and not any times I can ever
Speaker 1: remember twenty one points. And if they win by twenty
Speaker 1: one points, if they win twenty eight to seven, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be people going just twenty eight. Yeah, no, seriously,
Speaker 1: like seven. It's almost like those games you mentioned it early.
Speaker 1: It's almost like those college games that all of our
Speaker 1: teams play where you're playing Timbucto State and you're like,
Speaker 1: we're expecting to put up fifty points and we only
Speaker 1: hold them to ten, right, And if you don't, then
Speaker 1: you disappoint it because you're like, if we can't do
Speaker 1: that against them, then what are we gonna do against
Speaker 1: For yourself, I'm an Arkansas fan. We need to win
Speaker 1: those games. So just get a win. Yeah, if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys win this game thirty five seventeen, which we all
Speaker 1: were very happy with against the Giants, there's the tone
Speaker 1: of this show on Monday. Won't be good Saints. Saints
Speaker 1: will take advantage of them. You can't do that against
Speaker 1: the Saints. Yeah, it depends on what they're doing on
Speaker 1: the field. You know, I don't know the score. I
Speaker 1: don't really judge a game by the end score. I
Speaker 1: mean depends what you're doing in there. You know you
Speaker 1: talked about dak if who was it that was asking
Speaker 1: if he'll be still be in the second? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't know what the guys are going to do. And
Speaker 1: I think this is the perfect game for this defense
Speaker 1: to get back to where they need to get back to,
Speaker 1: you know, them regaining that confidence, that power, that that
Speaker 1: excitement and all of that. Then making big place which
Speaker 1: will play into the following week once they have to
Speaker 1: go up and get in New Orleans. Yea, let's take
Speaker 1: let's take a final break. When we come back, we'll
Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about this game, maybe take
Speaker 1: some questions. We'll get some questions. Calls eight eight eight
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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins come to town. We've been talking about it.
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Speaker 1: Do that? You've done so bad about the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Why should fans come to. They're coming to see the
Speaker 1: Cowboys because they're Cowboys fans. Honestly, this would be if
Speaker 1: I was gonna go to a game. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to go to and you want to just
Speaker 1: be cheering because you get to cheer all the touchdowns,
Speaker 1: all the turnovers, like yeah, yeah, it's a party. It's
Speaker 1: a party. Not either way. I'm trying to not be
Speaker 1: stressed on my football Sunday, and this should be about
Speaker 1: as unstressful an NFL game as we've seen it. Like,
Speaker 1: this is kind of game that's fun and entertaining to
Speaker 1: bring your kids to because you're not so intent like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Cowboys up by seventeen, you can Yeah, we'll go get
Speaker 1: some popcorns. Go get some popcorns, some cotton candyles. How
Speaker 1: many fans are going to be there in the fourth quarter?
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a tough one. I don't know it really,
Speaker 1: I mean, it is gonna be like a college game.
Speaker 1: It will. That's uh, you know, watching the tape on
Speaker 1: game pass, which not nobody's paying me to say this, Like,
Speaker 1: if you can afford it, I highly recommend it. It's
Speaker 1: so fun to be able to, you know, watch and
Speaker 1: see the actual XS and O side of football. But
Speaker 1: I think it was forty two ten at the end
Speaker 1: of the first half, and the Dolphins scored on the
Speaker 1: Ravens right before halftime, and like there were already almost
Speaker 1: nobody in the stands and there's like fifteen Dolphins fans
Speaker 1: like celebrating in the inspect respect to you guys, first,
Speaker 1: still being there. All right, let's let's take some calls.
Speaker 1: We got a couple calls rolling in here. We First,
Speaker 1: let's take a call from Jordan and Odessa. Jordan, what up? Hey,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Guys of the show, one of my
Speaker 1: favorite talk my website. Thanks Dave, You're one of my
Speaker 1: favorite follows on Twitter. Appreciate that. Um So, I had
Speaker 1: a quick statement and a question for you guys. First,
Speaker 1: I've been following the Cowboys for a long time, pretty
Speaker 1: much my whole life. I don't think I've ever seen
Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboys team that has really celebrated with each other.
Speaker 1: The locker room has been together the best that I've
Speaker 1: ever seen. Um you guys can correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: But every time they get a good stop or a
Speaker 1: touchdown or anything, they all come together and celebrate together
Speaker 1: and it just shows the type of locker room that
Speaker 1: we have and I think that's awesome and it makes
Speaker 1: me excited for the rest of the season. Now, my
Speaker 1: question is going into this game. Yeah, Xavier Woods is out,
Speaker 1: big loss, that sucks. I know Darian Thompson is probably
Speaker 1: going to get the start, but are they going to
Speaker 1: do kind of like a rotation with Donovan Wilson to
Speaker 1: get him some game reps? M How do you guys
Speaker 1: see that playing out? Is Cavan Frasier going to get
Speaker 1: some reps in there as well? UM? I just would
Speaker 1: like to know your guys thoughts on that safety position
Speaker 1: and where that's going to go going forward. All right, great,
Speaker 1: thank you for the call. Start first with the Wilson
Speaker 1: Thompson Frasier. I think it's gonna be a rotationable play.
Speaker 1: I really do, just because of the style of game
Speaker 1: that it will probably lead to. M If it's close,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, then you'll go with your starters more.
Speaker 1: But I would think that this would be a game
Speaker 1: where it would probably be good for Donovan Wilson to
Speaker 1: get in there if he's healthy and ready to go.
Speaker 1: He has been practicing, so I think for Cavon. I
Speaker 1: think they all kind of get in there. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: leaned toward like he said, I leaned toward the Thompson initially,
Speaker 1: at least getting the majority of it. Maybe they'll mix guys,
Speaker 1: and we've seen him do that, and cavan will come
Speaker 1: in for a series or so, and and honestly, depending
Speaker 1: on how long Woods is out, you probably want him
Speaker 1: to be out there just to get that feel for it.
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope Donovan Wilson gets to play a
Speaker 1: lot in the second half because it means it's not
Speaker 1: a dramatic game. And again, you don't see opportunities like this.
Speaker 1: You see it in college all the time. You don't
Speaker 1: see this in the NFL, where you can throw a
Speaker 1: rookie out there in a not very high stakes situation
Speaker 1: and let him get a feel for it. So that's
Speaker 1: certainly my hope. We'll see. You know, it sucks they
Speaker 1: don't like to tell us exactly how they're going to
Speaker 1: do it, so we'll have to wait and see. But
Speaker 1: that's my guess. Speaking about the locker room member, what
Speaker 1: are your thoughts there on this team being a or
Speaker 1: his thoughts that this is a part of the strength
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys is in the fact they have a
Speaker 1: strong locker room and a team, a team that seems
Speaker 1: to be very much together. I mean, I absolutely agree.
Speaker 1: From the time I've been working here, this has been
Speaker 1: the best locker room that I've seen so far. The
Speaker 1: energy is great. Everyone gets along. The only one person
Speaker 1: was Taco a little bit that was a loner, you
Speaker 1: know type of stuff. But other than now, he's gone.
Speaker 1: Now everybody else we think, we think, we think, yeah,
Speaker 1: But aside from that, that's the beauty of this thing.
Speaker 1: How much support you you get from each other. You know,
Speaker 1: you really truly see players supporting each other. One of
Speaker 1: my best things that I loved seeing is, you know,
Speaker 1: the Marcus Lawrence even last year, him bringing Dorian's armstrong,
Speaker 1: taking him under his wing, making him a part of things,
Speaker 1: pushing him. Sean Lee with Layton Manders kind of taking
Speaker 1: up his role, still helping him out, even though he's
Speaker 1: kind of taking his job away from him. But there's
Speaker 1: not animosity there. There's love and care and support everyone
Speaker 1: just it's headed towards the same goal as a unit.
Speaker 1: So that's really really good to see. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take another call actually before we get to that call.
Speaker 1: It's like a quick one from Twitter. Nacho sends this question.
Speaker 1: He says, how many snaps do you expect Twin to have?
Speaker 1: And on what side? Predominantly, what do you guys expect
Speaker 1: to see from him this weekend? Taco and Nacho on
Speaker 1: the same show. Yeah, that was a nick comment. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna play right in. That's what he does.
Speaker 1: He hasn't played anywhere else since he got here, and
Speaker 1: I would guess it's hard to I mean, let's okay,
Speaker 1: let's say they play sixty five snaps of defense. I
Speaker 1: would guess he plays a little bit less than half
Speaker 1: of that, like somewhere between twenty five and thirty plays.
Speaker 1: A couple of things that monitor is not only the
Speaker 1: injury to Tyrone Crawford with his hip. Is this just
Speaker 1: a normal Wednesday rest day for him him? Or is
Speaker 1: this something more serious that that's what we got to
Speaker 1: figure out. And then also the hand injury for for
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn that he had. I still think he would
Speaker 1: be able to play, but it might be something where
Speaker 1: it's gonna be wrapped up. Still pretty good. So just
Speaker 1: a couple of things. What are you y'all's expectations for him,
Speaker 1: because even prior to the hand injury out training camp,
Speaker 1: from what I remember, he wasn't playing well, at least
Speaker 1: not to what we thought. You know, given the fact
Speaker 1: that he is a veteran. The same thing here. I think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like Smith, I don't remember him like I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know he was bad. I don't think he wasn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't talking for him. He was just
Speaker 1: he wasn't a tyrant. I mean, that's what we were seeing.
Speaker 1: He wasn't beating tyrant. And guess what a lot of
Speaker 1: guys aren't gonna be tiring. We all saw gonna face
Speaker 1: tiring every weekend. What was the last day he practiced,
Speaker 1: like August fifth? Like, I mean, it didn't feel like
Speaker 1: he had a very long campaign A long time. I've
Speaker 1: already said on the field, I personally think he'll be
Speaker 1: the second leading sack guy on this team this year.
Speaker 1: So we'll see if that plays out that way. But
Speaker 1: that's what I expect from him. Well, it doesn't look
Speaker 1: that hard to do right now, That's my point. I Mean,
Speaker 1: we went into the season saying Malik's going to be
Speaker 1: a beast this year. Malik's made a couple of plays,
Speaker 1: but Malik's not getting sacked so far, and my guy's
Speaker 1: really getting sacks as Tank, My tank, Tank has one.
Speaker 1: I mean, I will say this Tank has been probably
Speaker 1: the guy's gotten more pressure, me more disruptive than anybody else.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to talk trash. I think Tank has
Speaker 1: been really good. We just haven't seen him get to
Speaker 1: the quarterback anybody really so far. They'll slow this week
Speaker 1: with ten. My expectation for Quinn right now is to
Speaker 1: be on the field and be active, like after being
Speaker 1: gone for a month and being suspended. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't need him to set the sack
Speaker 1: record right now, but get out there, look solid and active.
Speaker 1: But if if they can't generate some pressure in this game,
Speaker 1: then it, like I said, like, if if they don't
Speaker 1: look pretty good in this game, then I'm concerned, like
Speaker 1: they should. There's a finish with sacks plural in this game.
Speaker 1: Here's a fun stat that I bet you it's never
Speaker 1: happened for the Cowboys before. The only guy on the
Speaker 1: team that has a full sack does not have a tackle.
Speaker 1: I bet you. I bet you don't find that around
Speaker 1: the league. The single tackle one too, because there's Tyrone's
Speaker 1: the only guy that has a sack. I didn't realize,
Speaker 1: so Tanks is a half half late. He kind of
Speaker 1: got there. Yeah, it's the same time Crawford doesn't have
Speaker 1: a tackle. It's just a little surprising just because he's
Speaker 1: in the game because he you know, helps with the
Speaker 1: run support and all that, but hasn't had one yet. Interesting, Well,
Speaker 1: appreciate you join us. We're back tomorrow, will be at
Speaker 1: our normal time. We'll get into the Mike and the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins defense. Maybe they're a little bit better, who knows.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that tomorrow. For Nick Eaton, Dave Him
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