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Add to your flash briefing on Alexa 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: or subscribe on your favorite podcasting app. 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 3: I'll stop asking you questions. 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 4: Oh, you can ask me questions. 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: It was the tone when you asked. 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 4: Me the question Okay, it just seems like you might 13 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 4: have something in your bag? 14 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: Is that a better tone? 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 4: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to No Buffs, the 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 4: only Survivor podcast that runs like an old man. It's Thursday, 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 4: March twenty sixth We're recapping the seventh episode of Survivor 18 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 4: Winners at War, So watch your spoiler. Some Jay skeets 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 4: alongside through the power of technology Tasmellis. 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 5: Hello, everybody, let's up tasking. 21 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 4: We got the Bearded one, Trey Kirby, Hey out heyoo, 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 4: the International Man of Mystery taking it to the Max 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 4: Leellis friend Lean, last, but not least making this magic happen. 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 4: It's JD. Hello, there is, and here we are. Let's 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 4: get right into it, guys. Maybe not as exciting of 26 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 4: episode as our first No Bust podcast, but not bad 27 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 4: and lots of break down here. The big three takeaways 28 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 4: I think from this episode. Yule gets voted out at 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 4: Tribal Council, Sandra quits edge of extinction, and maybe Adam's 30 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 4: Spidey senses are all wrong. But we're gonna tackle these 31 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 4: one by one by one. But yes, Yule gets voted 32 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 4: out at tribal Council, Wendell, Michelle and Nick ultimately teaming 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: up to take out I guess the last truly last 34 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: old school or as he's sent to the edge, how 35 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 4: shocked were you, especially you know the diehard's there in 36 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 4: JD and Trey. 37 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's It's like the book I mentioned on our 38 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,399 Speaker 1: Squad episode The Fall of Giants. The Yule is the 39 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: Austria Hungarian Empire in nineteen eighteen. 40 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 2: He's the last one to go. 41 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: There's nobody else ad the before season twenty left on 42 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: the game. That's right, and so what happened? 43 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: I mean? 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 1: Is this old school new school difference in play a thing? 45 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: And I think it is. 46 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 6: It definitely seems like it could be, and Jeff Probes 47 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 6: is certainly pitching it as the determining factor between these 48 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 6: vote offs, and I don't know. To me, it seemed 49 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 6: like Eule was in a good position. He was playing 50 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 6: it cool. He had Nick and Wendell on his side 51 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 6: for the last vote in the last episode, but then 52 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 6: he just got a little distracted by the fire tokens. 53 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 6: He was playing slow, and then he hit the gas 54 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 6: and floored it, and they were like, Wow, this guy 55 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 6: is planning ways to steal fire tokens. This is too dark. 56 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 6: That's what they said in confessionals. This is too dark. 57 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 6: And it's once your that hard, I guess. I guess 58 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 6: it's tough for people to shake that, especially with you 59 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 6: coming into the game with a reputation as a strategic 60 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 6: mastermind and then he comes out with these fire tokens plans. 61 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 6: It's like he was planning too slow and then suddenly 62 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 6: he was playing too fast. 63 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I think it's like a case of Yule's 64 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 4: galaxy brain here getting him in trouble. I do believe 65 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 4: that I put less stock into this whole you know, 66 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 4: old school new school thing, being like the reason why, 67 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 4: and they are really driving at home on the show. 68 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 4: I don't buy that as much. I think it's just that, 69 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 4: you know, after they lose the tribal Council. You're right, 70 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 4: there's like Yule and Nick they agree on Wendell, and 71 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 4: Wendell and Michelle they agree on Yule. But then Yule 72 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 4: comes up with this insane plan, which, by the way, 73 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 4: like we can talk out this plan. Was it edited 74 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: on television because it almost was like it was tough 75 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: to follow, because here's how I took it. You know, 76 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 4: Wendell's plan is that sorry, excuse me, Yule's plan is 77 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: they're gonna tell Wendell that Michelle would vote for Yule, 78 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 4: and that, of course Wendell then should vote for Yule. 79 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 4: But in reality, you know, Nick, Michelle and you'll are 80 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 4: all going to vote out Wendell, Right, that's his plan. 81 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 4: And then you know, Will says, okay, because there's this 82 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: risk that my name gets written down, so I want 83 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: a fire token. So what was he actually saying? Like 84 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: we're gonna do a split vote at the beginning, and 85 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 4: then when we revote, we'll just get rid of Wendell, 86 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 4: and hence why his name would have been written down. 87 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 4: I was confused. By even Wendell's or excuse me, youle 88 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 4: my god, I can't even keep I was confused by 89 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 4: Yule's again, sort of like next level plan. Do you 90 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 4: know what I'm getting out here? 91 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 92 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: I was confused too, And I think that was what 93 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: he was proposing, because he wanted the goodwill. He wanted 94 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: Michelle to get the goodwill, so she would get all 95 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: the fire tokens and then she would pay Yule the 96 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: fire token. Yeah, a one fire token, because I'm willing 97 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: to put my name out. 98 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: There, right and so, and he keeps he keeps saying 99 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: his name is written down. So again I'm led to believe. 100 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 4: And it seemed like it was edited a little bit, 101 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: but he was saying, Okay, Michelle and Wendell will vote 102 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: for me Yule, Nick and I will vote for Wendell. 103 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: It'll be a two two tie, and then we go 104 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 4: to a revote and that's when we'll do it. Will 105 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 4: do the three to one on Wendell. He's gone, and 106 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 4: he'll feel like, ah well. Michelle sort of was like, 107 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 4: it's got to be you. I'm sorry, babe, you know. 108 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: Maybe then he feels like he'll give his tokens to 109 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 4: her and then you're right, then, Yule, because he said, well, 110 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 4: my name was written down, I'm going out on a 111 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 4: limb here. You give me at least one for this. Yeah, 112 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 4: I have a feeling that's sort of what what his 113 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 4: crazy plan was, and he probably was just doing a 114 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: little too much here. 115 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 5: I was surprised Michelle didn't vote for Wendell just because 116 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 5: he called her babe. 117 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh really, I missed it. 118 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think I think in this instance, 119 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 5: I can see a little link between the NBA and Survivor, 120 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 5: because the old heads would say, well, the young guys 121 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 5: can't take a little abrasiveness, they can't just take a 122 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 5: little bit of a planner. Yule is just what he 123 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 5: said something, and they're, oh, they're backtracking. They can't handle it, 124 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 5: and so they he overplayed the game because the generation's 125 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 5: just clashed. I'm not sure if that's just the storyline 126 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 5: that they're overplaying. It seems like it happened. 127 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 7: I think they're either way either way, though, I think 128 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 7: Wendell is Harry Houdini. I can't believe he survived. I 129 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 7: thought he was toast again. 130 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: And now, speaking of old heads, listen, listen. 131 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 4: I'm more of a David, blame guy myself in New School? 132 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 7: What about Chris Angey? Isn't he the new new guy. 133 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 4: Anyway? 134 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,119 Speaker 7: So I'm two shows into Survivor and I thought Wende 135 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 7: was toasted again. I thought, don't do it, Wendel. I mean, 136 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 7: you're the only one that I know. I want you 137 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 7: to win this whole thing. And what I thought sealed 138 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 7: his fate was when they were at tribal council and 139 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 7: basically he and Michelle had like a little domestic dispute 140 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 7: like an old married couple, you know, like like she 141 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 7: was sort of saying, well, we have got that relationship history, 142 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 7: but that doesn't really count for anything, or it's not 143 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 7: gonna it's not gonna save you. And then he sort 144 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 7: of went back at her, and I thought, well, you've 145 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 7: definitely I mean, you could have at least like said 146 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 7: something to her to maybe make her think that you 147 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 7: were at least gonna be friends long term. But wasn't 148 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 7: he saying, like I think I had this right. He 149 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 7: was saying, if I go to Edge of Extinctionion, I 150 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 7: wouldn't be able to come back and really work with 151 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 7: you guys, because I wouldn't trust you anymore. 152 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: I think that's yeah, yeah, that's yeah. 153 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 6: Yeah. 154 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 4: He said the opposite of what Nick said, because Nick 155 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: was like, you know what if I go to Edge 156 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 4: and I come back, I'd love to work with you 157 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 4: guys again, And Wendell's like, no, screw that. Yeah yeah. 158 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 7: And I thought, well, that that he's gone for sure, 159 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 7: because the one he really needed, I thought was Michelle 160 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 7: because that was his ex girlfriend or whatever, and and 161 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 7: he kind of like took a dump on her right there, 162 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 7: and I thought, oh, man, you just lost, you just 163 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 7: lost right there. But again, you'll come out of that. 164 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 7: You're I mean, for you to blow that is pretty bad. 165 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 7: I thought he had the other two on his He 166 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 7: seemed to do that. I could believe in that creative 167 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 7: editing there as well. When you saw Wendell, I think 168 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 7: wrote first where wrote yule, and then someone wrote Wendell, 169 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 7: you'll then and then you couldn't see the Yeah, that's right, 170 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 7: and then you couldn't see the other two, and I thought, yep, yep, 171 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 7: this is it. He's going, and then bang, it's he survived. 172 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: We talked about this on the first No Buffs podcast, 173 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 4: but I am more convinced than ever that Wendell and 174 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 4: Michelle are playing up this sort of like Tiff. I mean, 175 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 4: I know they did really date in real life, and 176 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 4: of course they no longer do, so something of course 177 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 4: went wrong. But I really believe that they're leaning into this, 178 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 4: especially Wendell, to show everybody else, Hey, we're not a twosome, 179 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 4: we're not together. I don't even like her, she doesn't 180 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 4: like me, and I think it's all a ruse. I think, 181 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 4: you know, they because they have some relationship, even if 182 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 4: it's no longer a boyfriend and girlfriend. It's like, I 183 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 4: think they're just playing it up here. I mean even 184 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 4: Michelle gave Wendell a fire token. Yeah, I mean that 185 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 4: was slipped into the episode like as a bit of, like, 186 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 4: I guess, an apology. I don't even know what. 187 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: It was, yesture of good will. 188 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was just that's a brilliant strategy, though, If 189 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 7: that's what they've discussed, you know, before the show, I 190 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 7: think that's fantastic, because it definitely feels like they don't 191 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 7: like each other and there's some lingering tension, so it's 192 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 7: the perfect way to disguise that they're actually scheming against 193 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 7: everybody else. So good on them. If that's the case, Yeah. 194 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 6: What do you think At the very least, I think 195 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 6: that Wendell is leading the charge here, saying, we people 196 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 6: know that we had a relationship before. We obviously know 197 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 6: each other, but that is not a reason to vote 198 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 6: me off just because I'm in a pair now and 199 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 6: was in a pair on my previous season. And we've 200 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 6: seen like a Boston Robin Amberg go to the finals, 201 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 6: We've seen pairs go super deep. He saying, Hey, just 202 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 6: because we were together doesn't mean we're necessarily a pair, 203 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 6: despite the fact that they have been working together for 204 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 6: most of this. He's just trying to leave himself. It 205 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 6: really feels like so that he could backstab her and 206 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 6: not feel bad about it, or that other people could 207 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 6: use him in a vote as well. I think he's 208 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 6: just trying not to get voted off for something he 209 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 6: did before the show even started. 210 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, if they're playing 211 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: it up, then why is Michelle specifically talking about how 212 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: much he hurt her in her confessional that the other 213 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: players wouldn't even hear. 214 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, that is true, that's true. In confessions, you think 215 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 4: we would have maybe have gotten like, oh, we're just 216 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 4: playing here, like we actually have a great relationship, didn't 217 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 4: work out in our dating life, but we're just putting 218 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 4: this on. That's a good point. You would think if 219 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 4: that was the case, they would say it in confessions, 220 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 4: and then the show would want to show that because 221 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 4: it'd be like, Wow, this is amazing. Everything they're doing 222 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 4: here is actually fake. Yeah, that's a good point. But 223 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 4: I do really truly believe Wendell is leaning into like 224 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 4: sort of the villain role, like or more of a 225 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 4: bad guy attitude to help his game, because I think 226 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 4: it's actually working in the sense of like maybe people 227 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 4: are like, he's like, he's not gonna win this game, 228 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 4: but this is his best chance to go far, you 229 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 4: know what I mean, playing for sort of this sort 230 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 4: of like cocky, arrogant anger. And here's the thing, maybe 231 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 4: he was like that his first time out and we 232 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 4: just never saw the edit because he wins the game 233 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 4: and he's just like portrayed as this really cool, awesome guy, 234 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 4: which you know from our experience meeting him he is. 235 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 4: So it's always tough with the edit. 236 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean the edit, especially at this point 237 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: in the game, is a bitch. I can't even imagine 238 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: tackling the amount of footage. 239 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: That they have. 240 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, everything on Edge of Extinction and 241 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: you got three three different tribes going and and there 242 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: was actually a reward challenge that was cut out of 243 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: the episode altogether, and it was a slingshot one. I 244 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: love the slingshot ones. But and then you know, so 245 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: you have a certain amount of time with Selee, and 246 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: then you have a certain amount of time to focus 247 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: on Wendell and Michelle's fraught relationship that's extremely complicated, I 248 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: think in real life and in the game. Yea, so 249 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: we're we're just not getting all the information. I mean, 250 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: listening to listening to Rob has a podcast this morning, 251 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: I mean he at the beginning of the show, he's basically, 252 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: did I miss an episode? Like there's so much that happened, 253 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: and it's a lot of it kind of didn't make sense, 254 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: Like the decision making, especially the decision to get rid 255 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: of Yule considering the previous episode Yule, Nick and Wendell 256 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: seemed like a really tight alliance. 257 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean I was completely wrong on that call. 258 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 4: I was saying that I was like, these three guys 259 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 4: are tight, They're going far and whoops. Yeah, And I 260 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 4: mean maybe a part of it was because of what 261 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 4: Wendell was doing at the last tribal council where he 262 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: was really coming guns of blaze and saying maybe way 263 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 4: too much, and that sort of spooked Yule, And then 264 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 4: they had the conversation in this podcast or this episode today, 265 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 4: you know, where Yules like, what were you doing there? 266 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: Man? 267 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 4: Like you were making me feel uneasy and sort of 268 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 4: Wendell apologizes and there's all that, but you're right, it's like, really, what, Okay? 269 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 4: We get why Yules may be trying to get rid 270 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 4: of Wendell because he spooked, and maybe Wendell's trying to 271 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 4: get rid of Yuel because he knows that he's spooked 272 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 4: and he's like, Okay, he's got to go. What is 273 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 4: Nick thinking here? I think that's a really interesting part 274 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 4: to me, Like why is Nick ultimately with Michelle, of course, 275 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 4: but ultimately making the decision of like let's keep Wendell 276 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 4: and Yules gotta go? Does anyone have a take on that? 277 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: My take is that Nick is doing whatever the pretty 278 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: girl tells him to do, and she was kind of 279 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: the same with Poverty. I mean, he ended up voting 280 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: her out, but he was just like a little puppy 281 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: dog with her and Michelle is I seems to be 282 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: like she is playing the game hard and she she 283 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: can manipulate people, especially guys like Nick who are little 284 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: puppy dogs who will basically just follow orders. That's my 285 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: take based on yesterday's episode. 286 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: I think bring it up with her though. 287 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 5: Wasn't he the first one to say after they they 288 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 5: have they had they basically had their one on one 289 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 5: with each person, but then he brought it up to Herry. 290 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 5: He basically said, yeah, Wendell's arking me, but I don't 291 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 5: know Yule's arking me. Would you be would you object 292 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 5: to voting off Yule? And then they kind of went 293 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 5: that direction. 294 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: That's a good yeah. I actually agree with sort of 295 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 4: what Task is saying here because we even heard from 296 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 4: Nick in the in this episode, it feels like, you know, 297 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 4: Eule's history really did him in here too, write the 298 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 4: idea that he is a game bot and he is 299 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 4: thinking five steps ahead, and he's obviously well liked, and 300 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: Nick says he's worried about going with Yule because Yule 301 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 4: sort of makes the decisions because he's so much smarter 302 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 4: than everybody else. So it's cool even if you're with him, 303 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 4: but you're locked into his set plans and everybody then 304 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 4: knows that Reallyyule is the one running things within a 305 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 4: smaller sort of alliance. I think there is some truth, 306 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 4: Like I think what Nick's thinking is, if I roll 307 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 4: with Wendell and of course with Michelle there right now, 308 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 4: I'm at least a little closer on par with a 309 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 4: guy like Wendell, especially when it comes to like making 310 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: the plan strategizing, where if I'm with Yule, even if 311 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 4: the case is I'm fifty to fifty and we're making 312 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 4: these all these decisions together, that's not gonna be the perception. 313 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 4: Everyone's gonna be like, no, no, Yule did that, or 314 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 4: You'll came up with that and you were just a number. 315 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 4: I think there's something. I think there's some truth to that. 316 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 4: I think that's actually smart thinking by Nick. 317 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: Like even if I. 318 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: Roll with Mule and I'm great all the way to 319 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: the end, uh, no one's gonna believe me really that 320 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 4: I did anything, of course, outside of like backstabbing Yule 321 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 4: later down the line, which is always a play. But yeah, 322 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 4: I think you're sort of right there. 323 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: Task. 324 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 4: I think he's just like if I just roll with 325 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 4: you'll upscrewed. 326 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 6: And that's the real old school versus new school dichotomy 327 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 6: is that people like Boston, Rob, Sandra Parvity Mule as 328 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 6: a previous mastermind in the game. They've got the reputation 329 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 6: that it's like, it's not necessarily that they're not playing 330 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 6: the game at the same speed as the new school people. 331 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 6: But the new school people watched these people for ten years. 332 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 6: They built statues for Rob and Sandra, you know, so 333 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 6: they're just voting out the big games. It's like if 334 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 6: Michael Jordan showed up at a one on one tournament, 335 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 6: he would be the first guy you want to get 336 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 6: out because he's Michael Jordan. 337 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, you're right. So I'm sure we'll get 338 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 4: into this a little bit more here. But the other 339 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 4: big news from this episode was Sandra quitting Edge of Extinction. 340 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 4: This is the first scene we get Perverty and Sandra 341 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 4: arriving to Edge, and you know, we sort of get 342 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 4: them telling their version of what happened, and Sandra really 343 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 4: breaks it down. You know, I gave Denise my idol. 344 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: She turns around and took me out with it, and 345 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 4: they're all like dumbfound I mean, Boston Rob at one 346 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 4: point says, you let Denise decide your fate in the game. Yeah, 347 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 4: just shocked. And then what felt like thirty seconds later, 348 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: after Tyson explains, oh yeah, this place sort of sucks. 349 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 4: We gotta go up a mountain to get our Rice, 350 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 4: She's like, all right, peace out, see you and just 351 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: goes and waves the white flag and quits. And I 352 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: guess my question off that is, you know, she's won 353 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 4: the game twice. She calls herself the Queen. Continue to 354 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 4: call yourself for herself, the queen. Can you be in 355 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 4: the Can you be the Queen of Survivor? If you 356 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 4: have a legit straight up quit on your resume? 357 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: No, wow, No, absolutely not. I mean I get why 358 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: she did it, and she's, you know, fair enough. She's 359 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, she said herself, I'm not getting back into 360 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: the game. I suck at challenges and that's what that's 361 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: what you got to do to get back into the challenge. 362 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm uncomfortable I've won twice. She's also they don't say 363 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: this in the show, but she's guaranteed thirty five thousand 364 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: dollars just for being on the show. 365 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 366 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: So, and she was just on. 367 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 4: She was just on the season prior where she got 368 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 4: paid I'm sure to be on. 369 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: That's also a very good point. 370 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but but you're gonna if you're gonna quit, you're 371 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: gonna lose Jeff Probe's respect, and therefore you are no 372 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: longer the queen of Survivor. 373 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: And it's just that simple. 374 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 7: It seemed to me a little bit strange, because you know, 375 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 7: you can't. You don't go and play Survivor and then 376 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 7: complain about what goes on out there, you know what 377 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 7: I mean, Like, I mean, she must know, like it's tough. 378 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 7: Those conditions are tough. And you saw earlier in the episode. 379 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 7: I think it was Ethan was talking with somebody and 380 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 7: he yeah, they were having a tough time, and he 381 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 7: was like, you know, I'm looking forward to this being over. 382 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 7: And it's like, I thought you guys were a bit 383 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 7: tougher than this. You know you've been on this. 384 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 2: Okay. 385 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: Well, in Ethan's defense, he just had a stem cell 386 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: transplant and he's literally worried about dying out there. 387 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, a little different than Sandra. 388 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 7: Okay, So I did. I did notice that, and I thought, 389 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 7: you know, why is he even there then? I mean, 390 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 7: if if his health is at risk. Shouldn't he really 391 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 7: not be there? 392 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 4: I think that's what he's struggling with. Yeah, absolutely is 393 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 4: a part of it. I'm sure that's exactly what's going 394 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 4: through his head. Should I be even still staying here? 395 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 4: But back to Sandra, I mean I'm a little shocked 396 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 4: that she she didn't even give it a night on 397 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 4: the edge of extinction, you know, like, maybe sleep on it. 398 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 4: I get it, you're upset. You just got played by Denise. Yeah, 399 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 4: you have about a less than a one percent chance 400 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 4: of winning any challenge against some of these Juggernauts to 401 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 4: get back in the game. I also get that, But like, 402 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 4: I don't know, just sleep on it. Feel how you 403 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 4: wake up in the morning and then make that decision. 404 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 4: That that part was a little a little weird. 405 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 7: She she said that she didn't want to get eaten 406 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 7: by or beaten by rats. 407 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 3: That's true. 408 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,719 Speaker 2: Is she exactly what? I love? 409 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 3: She made her choice right away. They're like, oh, no food, 410 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 3: I'll up see you later. 411 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm with you, Like do the map, like 412 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 6: count how many people are left? You know that there's 413 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 6: going to be a challenge in the next two to 414 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 6: three days. I would have lasted at least through that, 415 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 6: and then you know, Sandra, unless the challenges sitting out 416 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 6: that she probably wouldn't win it. But as soon as 417 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 6: that's over, then go home. Like I just wait a 418 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 6: couple of days. But she did win twice. She doesn't 419 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 6: really have much more to prove. They built her a statue, 420 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 6: but she did still quit. 421 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 4: Do you think she can be considered the queen though? 422 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 6: Still Trey, she'll always call herself the queen. Yeah, yeah, 423 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 6: so that's the tough part. 424 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: But I don't know. Once a queen, always a queen. 425 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 5: I think I'd like to think she refuses to win 426 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 5: via the edge of extinction, which is cheap in and 427 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 5: of itself. A queen doesn't win that way. And she 428 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 5: went out on her own terms. I don't think she 429 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 5: even wants that on her resume. But no, but she 430 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 5: did a calculation, but I'd like to think it was 431 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 5: the other way around. But she's yeah, she said, I'm 432 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 5: not gonna win a challenge out here. This is this 433 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 5: is not gonna happen, So I'm out And she was 434 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 5: probably a little embarrassed. 435 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, but like Trace said, like, I mean, look, 436 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 4: they're gonna be having a challenge to get back in 437 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 4: the game. We assume very soon. So at most she's 438 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 4: gonna be out there, like I'm guessing like two maybe 439 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 4: three days and nights. Yeah, you probably are not gonna 440 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 4: win the challenge, but we also don't know what it is. 441 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 4: It could be a puzzle for crying out loud, right, 442 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 4: it probably will end with some sort of puzzle or something. 443 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 4: She's pretty good at that stuff, Like, I don't know, 444 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 4: there's a there's there's a one percent chance or minuscule chance. 445 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 4: But she's like, no, I don't stay at three star 446 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 4: hotels mine. 447 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 3: No, that's really what use. 448 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 4: There's no rope heercia. I mean, it's incredible, but I'm 449 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 4: I'm also I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but yeah, 450 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 4: you can't be the Queen. I'm no longer calling her 451 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 4: the Queen survivor. If you quit the game, I don't 452 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 4: care if it's on edge, it's you know what. To 453 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 4: bring it back to basketball, It's like it's like people 454 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 4: that do try to convince me that Vince Carter is 455 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 4: the greatest raptor of all time. Ah No, I can't 456 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 4: get on board with that because he did sort of 457 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 4: quit on the team and he quit on the franchise. 458 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 4: It's very similar to me. He's obviously a legend, no doubt, 459 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 4: one of the greatest evers, no doubt. But that's a 460 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 4: black mark that I can't let go, and I'm sorry, 461 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 4: I gotta do this with Sandra as well. Wow, yeah, 462 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 4: is that too much? It was an extreme? 463 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: Was it? 464 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: Well? 465 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 3: Just then who's the queen? Who's the queen? And who 466 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: is the king? 467 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 6: I'm guessing Boston Rob is the king, just because you 468 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 6: know he's the legend that's out there poverty, I suppose 469 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 6: would assume the title. 470 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 4: Well, I would say, who's the queen? 471 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: Is? 472 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 6: Uh? 473 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: We might find out at the end of this season. 474 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 4: I mean, it could be a Denise, it could be 475 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: a Kim, it could be Sarah. I mean if we 476 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 4: got another two time winner in a female form and 477 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 4: they dominate the game or something like that again, or 478 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: a big move. We already saw Denise take out Sandra 479 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 4: for crying out loud, so TBD, I guess Trey. For me, 480 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 4: it's like it's like when the titles sometimes gets stripped 481 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 4: off a wrestler and it's like, you know, there's like 482 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 4: a tournament for it or something like that, and then 483 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 4: we can decide out a pay per view. 484 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, sounds good. It's like a season two of Game 485 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 6: of Thrones. There's five kings, there's five queens out there. 486 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 6: We're waiting to see who will try and who's the 487 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 6: Stanis Barrathian out there? 488 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 4: All right, So we did get a lot of Edge 489 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 4: of Extinction. 490 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: You know. 491 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 4: We had all that first scene of course with the 492 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 4: Sandra development and her quitting, and then we went back 493 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 4: to it after we went to the Blue Tribe for 494 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 4: a little bit with all the apologizing, and we had 495 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 4: what you were talking about, Lee, We had we had 496 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: Ethan struggling, you know, with how to sort of I 497 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 4: like how he said it, like how to exist in 498 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 4: the in between world? I think is what he said. 499 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 4: Like this, it is weird, like we're not in the game, 500 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 4: but we're in the game, and it's like where are we? 501 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 4: And and you know, obviously his health issues and just 502 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 4: mentally I'm sure and physically exhausted poverty sort of building 503 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 4: him back up. Though you could see the you could 504 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 4: see the sadness in Ethan's eyes, like that struggle that 505 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 4: was that was a pretty powerful scene that looked that 506 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 4: was raw. 507 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was very cool to see the actual bond 508 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 6: that they had, and it just looked like you were 509 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 6: watching two friends talking to each other and they just 510 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 6: happened to be playing Survivor. 511 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was talking about I just I will 512 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 4: say I it was something a little weird to me 513 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 4: about he's talking about stem cell transplants and you know, 514 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 4: obviously battling cancer and whether he should even be out there. 515 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 4: Parvety's just like, yeah, let's just do some yoga and hey, 516 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: fasting is awesome. Like I mean, she also did a 517 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 4: lot of great things, like she really did build them 518 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: back up, but she was throwing out some strange recommendations 519 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 4: or advice there, I thought. But anyway, they got it. 520 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 1: They got very on character for her if you were 521 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: on Instagram, so that's right, that's right, Okay, well. 522 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: It's on character. 523 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 5: And also she did a lot of complaining in a 524 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 5: couple of scenes prior to that. When she entered the 525 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 5: Edge of Extinction, she was doing plenty of complaining. I 526 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 5: would find it very difficult to anoint her the Queen 527 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 5: if she doesn't really even appreciate the game. At least 528 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 5: Sandra walked off lost and said, you know what I 529 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 5: got got I got beat poverty, just whined and complained 530 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 5: for for a good don't like forty seconds of unedited film. 531 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 5: And then yes, she was nice to Ethan. She she 532 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 5: was in the end, she was she was a helpful person, 533 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 5: and she plays the game well. But I struggled with that. 534 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 5: I just struggled listening to that play. 535 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: I see I see grown men cry in their eyes 536 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: at it when they lose championships task. 537 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 5: So you know, I'd rather crying. I'd rather that that's 538 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 5: that's natural, that's a natural feeling to be distraught. But 539 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 5: oh I got voted out, Well, yeah, probably happens. 540 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 4: So then we get so then we get Ethan finding 541 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 4: the next you know, challenge clue if you want to 542 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 4: call it that, and it's the race for fire Tokens. Lee, 543 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 4: what did you what did you think of this scene 544 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 4: where they all open up that parchment at the same 545 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 4: time and it's like, oh, these tokens are basically at 546 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 4: the top of the hill and everybody just drops what 547 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 4: they're doing and takes off. Well what do you think 548 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 4: of that? 549 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, So, like I'm trying to figure out like when 550 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 7: they when they know they have to go and find 551 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 7: that there's a clue to go out there and find 552 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 7: and then they have to read them all together. That 553 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 7: that took discipline to read all those scrolls at the 554 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 7: same time, for one, because wouldn't you want to just 555 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 7: grab it and read it and maybe, you know, maybe 556 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 7: grab that like five second headstart on some of them. 557 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it is. It's like an official though rule, 558 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 4: like somebody tells one of the survivors, hey, there's something 559 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 4: over there, so somebody go and get it and bring 560 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 4: it back, and then you have to open it together 561 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 4: and read it together. I know, you mean like yeah, yeah, 562 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 4: like it's editing. Yeah, yeah, true. I think they're like 563 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 4: they're like, that's one of the rules, Like it literally 564 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 4: says on it you have to open it together. 565 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 3: But you're right. 566 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 4: I mean, like if Russell had found it back in 567 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 4: the day, would he just be like it gives them 568 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 4: a little middle finger and his stories up. 569 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 7: Like so let me let me just it. Is there 570 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 7: anything that stops that guy from maybe getting the first scroll, 571 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 7: reading it and then just throwing the others over his 572 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 7: head and saying, you guys, go and figure it out 573 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 7: for yourself. 574 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. 575 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 4: It's a bit of a gray area. I'm not sure 576 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 4: what they would do it. It's definitely a production rule, 577 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 4: but it's like, would they also love it if they 578 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 4: were like somebody gave the middle finger to the rule 579 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 4: or is that even fair? I don't know that that's. 580 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 7: They seem to pretty quickly turn on each other when 581 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 7: when you know that something like that's at stake, like 582 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 7: they seem to, you know, pretty quickly be out for 583 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 7: their own because yeah, now I think I think I've 584 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 7: got this guy's name right, the one with the Boston 585 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 7: Red Sox. Hat does that Boston Rob? To make sure, 586 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 7: I wanted to make sure. I wanted to make sure right, 587 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 7: but he now, if I'm right as well, he found 588 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 7: three of those uh you know firete tug the fire tugs. Yeah, 589 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 7: but the other guys, yeah, that were pretty bad looking 590 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 7: for them because they know these people that were kind 591 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 7: of right there and they couldn't see them. 592 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 4: So so here's what Yeah, so here's what happens. They 593 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 4: all open up their scrolls and then they're like boom, 594 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 4: let's go, and it's a race, and we're led to 595 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 4: believe that Boston Rob just sprints there, I mean just 596 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 4: straight up sprints. 597 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 6: Yeah. 598 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 4: In fact Tyson says, that's exactly what's happening, like, uh, 599 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 4: you know, Boston Robb, he's going way too fast out 600 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 4: of the gate. Don't worry, I'll catch that fat. So 601 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 4: basically he says portly chap. I guess he called them 602 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 4: lead chap. Yeah. And then this was interesting editing though, 603 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 4: because it appears to us that Tyson does find the 604 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 4: first one, and you're like, Okay, Tyson's got one, and 605 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 4: then they're all like trying to figure out, well, where 606 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 4: are the other ones? Who's got any more? Is that? 607 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 3: It? 608 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 4: Like what's going on? Who's lying? And then we get 609 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 4: we've seen more and more of these over the years, 610 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 4: but the still pretty rare flashback where we then see 611 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 4: through the editing that Boston rob had already found three 612 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 4: of them, and he gives us sort of a play 613 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 4: by play breakdown and a baseball reference task. Three out 614 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 4: of four, Yeah, three out. 615 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 2: Of four, sit down, Ted Williams, sit down. 616 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 4: To eat a dick. Yeah, rest but yeah, three out 617 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 4: of four. We're in the majors. I'm batting seven fifty. 618 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 4: I'm the best that's ever played. That's what he said. So, yeah, 619 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 4: that was I guess sprinting worked out in the end, 620 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 4: he got there before everybody and they were just basically 621 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: lying in like a pile of rocks. They weren't really 622 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 4: that hard to find, you just had to. 623 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 3: Get there first. I'll admit I got a night Shamalan 624 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 3: don this one. I was like, Wow, they didn't find them. 625 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 6: I guess this is gonna be one of those things 626 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 6: like Rob said for the challenge the previous week, and 627 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 6: maybe it'll take a couple of weeks to find these. 628 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 6: But apparently he was just fast and had pre scouted 629 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 6: the trails. I guess that's something that players will do 630 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 6: from here on out if they ever have something like 631 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 6: an edge of extinction, They're gonna be out there just 632 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 6: looking for places where they might rop advantages at some point. Right, 633 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 6: you just got to know the lay of the land 634 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 6: because they were talking about names for like geographical features. 635 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, I was on a small lookout. Then 636 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: I went over to the large lookout. 637 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 6: Him like, you guys have been out there doing nothing 638 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 6: for a long time, named every spot on this beach. 639 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. So now we have we have Boston Rob with 640 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: a bunch of fire tokens, and we have Natalie with 641 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 4: a bunch of fire tokens just on the edge I'm 642 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 4: talking about. Uh, you know, we assume there is going 643 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 4: to be a challenge to get back in the game 644 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: for one of these people on the edge soon JD. 645 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 4: Do you think these fire tokens are going to be 646 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 4: able to be used as like an advantage in a challenge, 647 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 4: you know, in terms of like, you know, one token 648 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 4: gets you a five second head start or something like that. 649 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 4: It'll almost be like the old eliminator rules in American gladiators, 650 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 4: like you build it up that lead and then you 651 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 4: get to start early. 652 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah, it could be that, or 653 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: they've in the past they've given you sort of an 654 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 1: afternoon tutorial on how to do a specific challenge, So 655 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: it could be something like that, or it could be 656 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: simply a matter of buying your way back into the game. 657 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe say that, so we've got three and three 658 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: for Natalie and Rob right. 659 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: Is that right? 660 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 4: Or is not only a four? It was just four? 661 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: So what if they said, what if there's like, hey, 662 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: if you if you have six fire tokens, you can 663 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: get back into the game. And then they are relying 664 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: on people who are still in the game to give 665 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: you the fire tokens to get back in the game. 666 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: It could be as simple as that. I don't know, I. 667 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 4: Mean, right, so you are you're saying maybe, Yeah, there's 668 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 4: not even really a challenge per se, like a physical 669 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 4: or mental like a puzzle thing to get back in 670 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 4: the game. It's more leading into this sort of economy 671 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 4: of these fire tokens and almost pleading in a way 672 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 4: or whatever, bartering in a way with people that are 673 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 4: still in the game, yeah, to allow one of them 674 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 4: back in. Wow, you blew my mind with that. 675 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: And you know, you're basically if you're still in the game, 676 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: you're literally buying an ally, right, like, yeah, that person 677 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden on your alliance and you you 678 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: have the numbers, which is what you need to win survivor. 679 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 4: And then you wonder if some of those if this 680 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 4: is if this is a thing that happens, we have 681 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 4: no idea. You wonder if like I don't know, like 682 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 4: you could be like, hey, Sophie, I gave you a 683 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 4: fire token, or you know, people would be like those 684 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 4: ones that showed up in your bag that was for me, Yeah, 685 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 4: and people could be lying about that or not. Yeah, 686 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 4: that would be a fascinating dynamic. Ok Yeah, we know 687 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 4: they're gonna mean something, although it would be hilarious if 688 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 4: they mean absolutely nothing in the end, and you can 689 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 4: buy yourself like a buff on the way out, like 690 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 4: on the flight home or something like that would be incredible. 691 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 2: Exit through the gift shop. 692 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 4: Okay, So then the next scene after that, we check 693 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 4: in with two of the other tribes. We get the 694 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 4: Red Tribe to cal Tribe. This one not much happening. 695 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 4: We get some tribe bonding. I would say over how 696 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 4: funny Tony looks when he runs, which is which is 697 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 4: always great, And there is like Ki Kim seems concerned 698 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 4: about having a plan in place when they come to 699 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 4: the merge, and it does appear like there's a pretty 700 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 4: solid three maybe even four with Tony in this Red 701 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 4: Tribe of at least Kim, Denise and Jeremy, and again 702 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 4: maybe Tony's a lock with them too. Like they're looking 703 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 4: like we know we're gonna get to a merge next episode, 704 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 4: Like you feel pretty confident about this alliance that this 705 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 4: Red Tribe has going. 706 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 6: I like to see that they're putting a lot of 707 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 6: thought into it ahead of time, and it seems like 708 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 6: there is a pre existing relationship right between Kim and Jeremy, 709 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 6: so they're a little bit locked in there, and Denise 710 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 6: obviously seems to be a well liked person amongst camp. 711 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 3: I think it makes sense to. 712 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 6: Have a group of people ready to go once you 713 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 6: get into the tribe, because you know we're gonna get 714 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 6: down to the point where there's gonna be basically a 715 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 6: bunch of same sized voting blocks, and if you've got 716 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 6: your three locked in already, you can kind of help 717 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 6: choose exactly which way. 718 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 3: The game is going to go. So, yeah, definitely got 719 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: a preplay. 720 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I'm one hundred percent in on the Denise, 721 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: Kim and Jeremy alliance if it's an actual thing. I 722 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: don't see Tony making it far past the merge myself, 723 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: just because he's too wild, he's too erratic. You can't 724 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: really depend on him, especially at this stage of the game. 725 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: But and he's a threat. He's very well liked, and 726 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: we're getting into individual challenges, and if they're physical, then 727 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: he is very good at challenges, as as I remember. 728 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 4: Is he that good at a I'm so sure if 729 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 4: you saw him run on the beach, I wouldn't have 730 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 4: a lot of faith in what he can do. I 731 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 4: don't think he's I don't think he's a juggernaut out 732 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 4: there with some of these other people. That's for sure. 733 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 4: He's actually doing he's oddly playing like a WU type game. 734 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 4: To me, he's like he's sort of just the like 735 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 4: funny guy out there. Definitely like that, you're not. He's 736 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 4: not strategizing whatsoever. He's doing a really good job of 737 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 4: trying to tone that down despite the spy Shack. Yeah, 738 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 4: you wonder if he can keep that in check when 739 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 4: you get to it's like individual immunity time and there's 740 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 4: idols out there. Yeah, and he knows, you know, will 741 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 4: he go like, oh, I got to do everything just 742 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 4: for myself or will you have some faith in this 743 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 4: possibly alliance here with Kim, Denise and Jeremy. 744 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like the spy Shack incident 745 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: is exactly Yeah, I'm talking about it. He just panics, 746 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: he disappears, and nobody can strategize with him, and nobody 747 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: can calm him down. He's just gonna do what Tony's 748 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: gonna do. 749 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 6: He's at almost the Tony strategy though, Like I don't 750 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 6: think he realizes that he is the meat shield for 751 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 6: everybody else. They will be happy to keep him around 752 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 6: because they, you know, they're assuming that at some point 753 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 6: he will not have an immunity idole, he will not 754 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 6: win individual immunity, and then we can get him. 755 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 4: Yeah. I actually think Tony's in for the long run here. 756 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 4: I think he's playing a great game because he's just 757 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 4: being a goofball and you're not really a threat when 758 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 4: you're a goofball, and people are like, eh, keep him around, 759 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 4: and he's obviously likable and he's a number for a 760 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 4: lot of people, and he won. Yeah, I know, I know, 761 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 4: I think it's working well for him. It's my point. Okay. 762 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 4: So then we go to the Green tribe, the Yarra tribe. 763 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 4: We get this once again, this Ben versus Adam like tension. 764 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 4: These guys hate each other, right of it. 765 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 2: It's seething animosity. It's so good. 766 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 4: Who do you who do you guys side with in this? Uh, 767 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 4: you know, one on one sort of battle of Will's 768 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 4: like Ben, who's like, I don't know, a louder gentleman 769 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 4: of course, and you know, maybe sort of annoying, as 770 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 4: I guess Adam calls him. But then there's Adam. He's 771 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 4: sort of like a whiny, sort of in a way. 772 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 4: It seems really upset out there, and he's like, obviously paranoid. 773 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 4: I don't know what side do you side with if 774 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 4: you're if you have to pick one or the other. 775 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, Adam is that young ish kid? Is that one? 776 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 7: Get him off? Yeah? 777 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 3: He tries. 778 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 7: Stop complying. Oh my god, how old he looks like 779 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 7: he's about twenty three or twenty four? Is that right? 780 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 4: He's got to be one of the younger ones out 781 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 4: there for sure, because he was a young wayer. 782 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 7: Oh my god. Maybe it's just because you know, I'm 783 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 7: an older gentleman these days. But I was like, if 784 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 7: this kid would drive me crazyplaining and complaining, what what 785 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 7: on earth have you got to be complaining about in 786 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 7: your life? You're on Survivor already. You obviously don't have 787 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 7: a job. I mean this could really set you up 788 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 7: for your career, and you're out there complaining, so get. 789 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 4: Off your Survivora ticks arendtick is always why are you complaining? 790 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 3: You know what you signed? 791 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, well he's paranoidly because you know, everyone is trying 792 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 4: to figure out where the idol is if anybody has 793 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 4: it on that tribe, and Adam is convinced that Sarah 794 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 4: or Ben has it and we all know as the viewer, 795 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 4: and Sarah does too of course that yeah, Adam, you're wrong. 796 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 4: Your spidy senses are dead wrong. It's Sophie that has it. Yeah, 797 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 4: it's Sophie that has it, you idiot. 798 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. 799 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 7: And so now I can't get all the names right. 800 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 7: But but the other one was saying almost like she 801 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 7: was saying all basically empty all my possessions and sh 802 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 7: Sarah doesn't have it, yeah, and almost saying like if 803 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 7: I'm prepared to do it, then everyone else should do it. 804 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 7: But the other girl didn't do it. No one else 805 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,959 Speaker 7: did it anyway, but she wasn't gonna do it because 806 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 7: she had the idol. Is that right? 807 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, Sophie has it. 808 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 809 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 4: We don't know where Sophie has it. Is it in 810 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 4: her bag, is it on her body? Is it buried? 811 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 4: We don't know, but you're right. I thought that part 812 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 4: was a little a little interesting. That Sarah was like, 813 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 4: all right, look, dude, I don't have it. Let's just 814 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 4: empty our bags and be done with this so you 815 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 4: can stop freaking out that I have it because I don't. 816 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 4: But I mean, has Sarah talked to Sophie in advance like, hey, 817 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 4: don't have it in your bag and in case he 818 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 4: calls our bluff on this, right? Like right, you know, 819 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 4: we got to empty everything, like Sarah. Sarah knows Sophie 820 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 4: has it, so you know, unless she was trying to 821 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 4: blow up her spot, I don't think she would have been. 822 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 4: They must have had like a pre arranged like, I 823 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,240 Speaker 4: don't know, put in your crotch and we'll all empty 824 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 4: our bags or something. Yeah. 825 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, it read like a very cop move to me, 826 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 6: because you know Sarah is a cop, so she gets 827 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 6: the easily intimidated purp and she's like, hey, fine, you 828 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 6: want me to show you everything on God, I'll show you. 829 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 6: He's like, Noah, that's okay. But I mean, seriously, they're 830 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 6: sitting there, Adam is accusing Sarah and Ben of having 831 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 6: the idol and they're like no no, no no no 832 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 6: no no no no no no no no no no no, 833 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 6: And Sophie's just sitting there, being completely quiet, looking away, 834 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 6: like in that moment, wouldn't you be like val Doth 835 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 6: protests too much? Why did you not pick up on 836 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 6: that at all, or why did you not just mention 837 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 6: her name when you're saying people who might have the idol? 838 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 6: There's only three people there. It doesn't take much that 839 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 6: throw Sophie's name into the mix. 840 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, But Adam is like he spins it the other way, right, 841 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 4: He's like, oh, yeah, Sarah and Ben, they're like being 842 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 4: so loud pretending to find one, and like they're being 843 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 4: so you know, demonstrative that they don't have one, that 844 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 4: means they do have what Like he actually straight up 845 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 4: just tricks himself definite with the old you know, I 846 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 4: don't know what you would call that, but it's like 847 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 4: it's that's exactly what he does. 848 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: It's paranoia, he's he's just he's one of those players 849 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: that is completely paranoid all the time. The game is 850 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: always in his head and he just doesn't know what 851 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: to do with that energy except for you know, a 852 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: QS people. 853 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 6: Yeah. 854 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 4: Well, and the other part is and it's you know, 855 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 4: all the credit in the world to Sophie, to her, 856 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 4: because like he really is what he's saying here and Tray, 857 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 4: you were getting at this to me, Adam is saying, well, 858 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 4: I know, Sophie doesn't have it. She ain't gonna find 859 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 4: an idol, right, Like that's what Like, that's how it 860 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 4: read to me. He's like, no, no, it'd be one 861 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 4: of you two, either Sarah or BN. Like that's more 862 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 4: your sort of mo. That's Sophie's not out there looking 863 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 4: for idols. And and even if she is, she's not 864 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 4: final one. Like she's she's mad underrated. Like I'm gaining 865 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 4: more and more respect for her. I know, everybody's a 866 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 4: winner out there, but like even like she's pretty badassing 867 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 4: these challenges too, Like she holds her own and it's 868 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 4: like seems to always be on puzzles and stuff like that. 869 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 4: It's like just pretty damn good. 870 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems to be the dominators in this season 871 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: are the quiet ones, the quiet, calculating and just calm, cool, collected, 872 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: because you got you got Sophie, you got Denise, even 873 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: Sarah to it to a certain degree, and Jeremy as well. 874 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just just plain it cool. 875 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 4: Yep, that's exactly right. Okay, So we then we have 876 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 4: the immunity challenge. We had the great strategy in the 877 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 4: end from the Green tribe to go extra slow when 878 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 4: transferring the water on their saucer, so they only had 879 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 4: to do the one trip. They didn't spill a lot 880 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 4: of water like the other two tribes were, and uh 881 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 4: that worked paid off. And then you know they took 882 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 4: care of the wooden puzzle. Sophie and Ben crushed that one. 883 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 4: And then we get the uh well, we get the 884 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 4: very close the photo finish between the Blue Tribe and 885 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 4: the Red Tribe, and we had Wendell talking trash to 886 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 4: prop There was a lot coming out of this one. 887 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 4: You know, you know this was we just sort of 888 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 4: we glossed over it when we were talking about Yule 889 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 4: getting voted out, but you know there was a lot 890 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 4: of talk earlier right after it that wow, man, what 891 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 4: is Wendell doing? Like, you know, just shut up and 892 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 4: stop talking to Probes and stop trying to call him over. 893 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 4: Do you think that was overblown or like when Wendell 894 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 4: was talking to us on our podcast, he says he 895 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 4: liked he likes to talk a little trash one of 896 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 4: her hoops. 897 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think we didn't see something the 898 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: way it was just the way it was edited. Either, 899 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: it didn't get caught because they made such a big 900 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 1: deal about him talking smack. And I don't think it 901 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: was that one shot of him trying to get Jeff's attention, 902 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: because in the previous season he Wendall got screwed out 903 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: of winning a challenge because he didn't get Jeff's attention. Yeah, famously. 904 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: So there is something else there that that we didn't see. 905 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: Has to be because why would they make a big 906 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: deal of that. It doesn't make any sense to me. 907 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 6: There is that little moment when they're crossing on the 908 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 6: beams and Jeff yells out something like sale loses a 909 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 6: ton of water and Wendell's like, don't exaggerate, Jeff, and 910 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 6: Nick chimes in right then he's like, hey man, just 911 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 6: focus on the talented trand yeah, exactly. And there was 912 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 6: a moment, you know, last week where Wendell was talking 913 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 6: to Jeff. So I just have to imagine he's talking 914 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 6: to him the entire time they're out there. 915 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and so and so didn't someone say, like, 916 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,359 Speaker 7: just ignore him about Jeff because Jeff was giving it back. 917 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 7: It sounded like, you know, like like two kids bickering, 918 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,919 Speaker 7: you know, just ignore him, don't worry, he'll go away. 919 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:37,479 Speaker 4: Yeah. 920 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 7: But the funniest thing I noticed from the challenge was 921 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 7: Wendell's team. You know, they didn't quite have enough water 922 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 7: to fill up the thing to drop. 923 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 4: The other puzzle pieces. 924 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 7: Ye, yeah, and Wendell was trying to ring out his 925 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 7: shirt to give it to give it a bit more water, 926 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 7: like like, I mean, how much is on that possible? 927 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 4: Like a couple of drips? Hey man, every dread colts, 928 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 4: did you see it? There's there's a quick shot where 929 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,959 Speaker 4: Wendell at first thought he was just cooling himself down 930 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 4: with the water. He was splashing it on himself. But 931 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 4: I think what he was trying to do is like, yeah, 932 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 4: get it on his shirt. Yeah, like trying to just 933 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 4: get as much water onto his shirt that he could 934 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 4: then ring it in. 935 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 3: But we don't know who the queen is anymore, but 936 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 3: Wendell certainly the drip god. 937 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Warrior Wendel leaned into that. Yeah, so it 938 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 4: was a close one. It was bang bang, And I 939 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 4: think I did hear Stephen Fishback say about that idea 940 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 4: of like, hey, Jeff Propes, we're almost ready get over here, 941 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 4: and like you perfectly said there JD like he's already 942 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 4: had an experience with this where he didn't call Propes 943 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 4: over and it backfired. But also Fishback was like, it's 944 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 4: almost beneficial for you to always call Probes over that 945 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 4: you're almost done, because the other tribe instinctively stops what 946 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 4: they're doing and looks over for a second because you're like, oh, 947 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 4: like are they done? Are they close? It's like just 948 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 4: one of those weird like human nature things where you're like, oh, 949 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 4: they must be done, so let me just look away 950 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 4: from the puzzle for a second. So it's like it's 951 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 4: almost oddly like a tiny little strategy I could buy 952 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 4: you a second. Of course, stand up losing by a second, 953 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 4: but yeah, I'm with you there. There either is more 954 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 4: going on between Wendell and Probst or they're making a 955 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 4: way bigger deal out of Wendell just saying let's not exaggerate, Jeff, 956 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 4: while the giant saucer like that was it really Then 957 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 4: we we basically talked about the next scene that was 958 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 4: them you know, really deciding that they were going to 959 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 4: get rid of Wendell. And and then we get to 960 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 4: tribal council and we had you'll breaking down the market 961 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 4: economy of fire tokens, really really breaking it down. The 962 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 4: guy is just brilliant, and we get more on the 963 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 4: Wendell Michelle you know, existing pre existing relationship and all that, 964 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 4: and ultimately you'll vote it out and gives his fire 965 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 4: tokens to Sophie and Sarah. 966 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 967 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 4: Anything anything else to add from this episode, either random 968 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 4: observations or anything from those scenes we just went through. 969 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 3: Well, listen, it's super weird when they were going to 970 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 3: tribal console and Survivor played a song with lyrics. 971 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, very weird. 972 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was like, I looked over to Laura, I 973 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 6: was like, music, Yeah, words just didn't make sense. I 974 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 6: don't know if they've ever had like an actual song 975 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 6: that didn't just have like you know, Didgeridus and. 976 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean and the lyrics were something like you 977 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 4: better be ready, they're coming for you or something like that, 978 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 4: Like I think that's what they said, but that was 979 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 4: a yeah, I can't remember that ever being in case 980 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 4: you're right. 981 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: Trey, I thought maybe it did see it, did see 982 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: it write a song for them because she's a super fan, 983 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, is that her singing? And then I tried 984 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 1: to google songs and Survivoring but yeah, yeah, it was weird. 985 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 4: Another thing I love a random observation. I love how 986 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 4: half asked a frisk is on Survivor. Anytime somebody comes 987 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 4: up with like, well, let's just frisk each other, all 988 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 4: everybody does is sort of like half assed, like pat 989 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 4: their pockets and like sort of pretend to like dangle 990 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 4: their shirt a little bit. Yeah, and then that's it. 991 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 4: It's like they've done this multiple times. I were like, well, 992 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 4: we're gonna have to frisk everybody, and everyone just sort 993 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 4: of does, like no one's even looking at each other. 994 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 4: You sort of just do this like little jostle of 995 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 4: their clothes a little bit, and they're like, Okay, I 996 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,800 Speaker 4: guess that's good. I mean, come on, like let's like 997 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 4: let's go full on, like you're going into a sporting event, 998 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 4: you know, like really frisk me, pad me down, Like 999 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,800 Speaker 4: come on, how do you know I don't have it. 1000 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 4: It always kills me. 1001 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 6: For some reason. 1002 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you don't want to you don't want to 1003 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: check under somebody's balls. 1004 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 6: Really, yeah, Hey, you don't want to mean the frisker 1005 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 6: on Survivor. That's fair. 1006 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 3: I remember that guy that was frisking everybody out there. 1007 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 3: Not good Carlton uh. 1008 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 4: Lee, what did you think of Tony giving two thumbs up. 1009 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 3: See that. 1010 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I did say that scene. You know, I'm 1011 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 7: watching it on my TV, so I couldn't really go 1012 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 7: and get a screen grab of it. But I wanted 1013 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 7: to say, you know, something like, this is a very 1014 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 7: solid show tonight, but unfortunately, yeah, I couldn't just couldn't 1015 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 7: couldn't get the screen grab of it. So if someone 1016 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 7: else has got it, that they please send it along. 1017 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1018 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 4: It was a good two thumbs up too. Really had 1019 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 4: a vibe of you. It was very strange, like how 1020 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 4: he was doing it tas. I have a question for you. Okay, 1021 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 4: so we let's say us the No Dunks team, let's 1022 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,879 Speaker 4: say we can do the five of us for whatever reason, 1023 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 4: I know they only had four, but we're in the 1024 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,800 Speaker 4: challenge and you're our leader. Are you going with the 1025 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 4: green strategy of like let's go slow and steady, or 1026 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 4: are we going with the you know, let's just go 1027 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 4: a little quicker. We'll loose some water, but don't worry, 1028 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 4: we'll make it up in just two quick sort of 1029 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,760 Speaker 4: you know, runs of the of the challenge. 1030 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 3: What's what? 1031 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 4: What do you think that is the right call? 1032 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 2: Well? 1033 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 5: I got the vibe from that challenge that they have 1034 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 5: seen something like that before. 1035 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, they had, and. 1036 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 5: I'm not quite clear if they knew exactly how much 1037 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 5: water in that circular thing would fill that other container thing. Right, 1038 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 5: do you know that one full one fills the other 1039 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,399 Speaker 5: one pretty well? 1040 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 6: Like it? 1041 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 4: I don't think they do. No, I don't think so 1042 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:09,839 Speaker 4: then I would go fast. 1043 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would not have the patience I would like 1044 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,240 Speaker 5: even even though they've you know, done stuff like that before. 1045 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 5: I think one production note would be to show the 1046 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,240 Speaker 5: overhead of the container to show how where those flags 1047 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 5: would go down, like at what point you reach the 1048 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 5: top and finish the challenge? Like they didn't show that 1049 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 5: thing imageig once, So there is no there's no payoff, 1050 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 5: there's no hey, this is what they have to get 1051 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,839 Speaker 5: to it at any point I would have I would 1052 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 5: have liked that. 1053 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. I guess they're hoping that they just want the 1054 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 4: drama of oh green tribe taking it mad slow, not 1055 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 4: spilling any water. Is this gonna work or not? 1056 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 5: Right? 1057 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, is it gonna get to the top to 1058 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,839 Speaker 4: release the puzzles? But yeah, right, you never we never 1059 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 4: see it, right. 1060 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 1: The suspense of that was crazy for me, Like that 1061 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 1: is a crazy gamble to me, because not only does 1062 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: it take you way longer like they were lapped when 1063 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: they were doing it almost, but it one false move 1064 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 1: near the end of that whole thing kills that strategy, right, Like, yeah, 1065 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 1: I would be huh, It's just it was just a 1066 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,879 Speaker 1: big gamble, and I'm glad it paid off for them, 1067 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,280 Speaker 1: But wow, I wouldn't. 1068 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 2: I don't think i'd have the balls to do that. 1069 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,839 Speaker 4: Yes, but you're right, especially when both of the other 1070 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,839 Speaker 4: tribes are like, you know, going much much faster than 1071 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 4: you are, and you and you don't even know, like 1072 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 4: Ta said, you like, is this gonna work? Like is 1073 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 4: this gonna be enough water? Or did we just completely 1074 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,879 Speaker 4: blow this? But I guess you could make a calculated 1075 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 4: guess that the producers of the game are thinking, like, hey, 1076 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 4: you go slow and steady and you get all that 1077 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,839 Speaker 4: water there, that will work. The odds of you getting 1078 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,800 Speaker 4: all that water there are low, though, so maybe you 1079 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 4: go quicker and you're gonna spill some. 1080 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 1: So I'm pretty sure they get walked through the challenges, 1081 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: don't they like just this is what it is and 1082 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 1: you actually walk the course almost. 1083 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, But I'm sure they're not like, hey, if you 1084 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 4: get your entire one saucer over here, that'll be enough. Like, 1085 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,399 Speaker 4: they're not gonna tell you that part. You gonna you're 1086 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 4: gonna have to guess that part, I assume. But again, 1087 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 4: I think you could have a pretty good calculated guess, 1088 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 4: like that'll work. But it's damn it's still like you 1089 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 4: still have to pull it off, right, that's the other part. 1090 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, maybe one saucer will get it to 1091 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 4: the puzzles for to drop, but we still got to 1092 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,359 Speaker 4: get all that water there and then into the thing, 1093 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 4: which isn't even that easy either. 1094 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1095 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,399 Speaker 1: I mean the real loser of this challenge is Nick 1096 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: because he had actually done it before he should have known. 1097 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point. Only 1098 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,959 Speaker 4: other thing, I have you already said it, JD? 1099 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 3: We did. 1100 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:47,280 Speaker 4: They did cut for time another challenge, a reward challenge 1101 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 4: that happened on day seventeen, so it never made it 1102 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 4: into the episode. I think it was for pizza, I 1103 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 4: read JD. I don't know if you can clarify that, 1104 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 4: but yeah, so that was it was cut for time, 1105 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 4: which with Edge of Extinction you sort of have to do. Yeah, 1106 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 4: I mean, just unless you make this this show an 1107 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 4: hour and a half, which they very easily could. Or 1108 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 4: I've also seen people say, why don't you make Edge 1109 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 4: of Extinction, which has been really entertaining this year, and 1110 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 4: it's helped in part by having all the legends there, 1111 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 4: of course, why don't you make that like its own 1112 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 4: like bonus show on like CBS Access or something like 1113 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,239 Speaker 4: that to really give you an idea I guess of 1114 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 4: what's happening over there. 1115 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: As a subscriber to CBS Access, I think that's a great. 1116 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay. 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Well, I watched my 1209 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 4: first episode of Survivor because of you guys. I was 1210 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 4: very skeptical since reality TV really is not my cup 1211 00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 4: of tea, or so I thought. Episode six first, the 1212 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,360 Speaker 4: one you guys discussed last week, and I was hooked immediately. 1213 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 4: I had to watch the remaining episodes. I've now watched 1214 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 4: the Heroes Versus Villains Cook Islands, and I just started 1215 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 4: Pearl Islands. My good wow. 1216 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 2: I love it. 1217 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 4: As I watch, I can't help fantasizing about what being 1218 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 4: there would be like and how I would play. I 1219 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,400 Speaker 4: think my biggest hurdle would be my fear of the 1220 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 4: jungle critters. That and my unathletic body, healthy appetite, and 1221 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 4: can't do attitude. My question is this, has anyone ever 1222 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 4: been injured by the wildlife while out there? I really 1223 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 4: hope you guys keep doing Survivor shows even after Basketball 1224 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 4: returns again. Much love. That's from Patrick all the way 1225 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:48,840 Speaker 4: from Denmark, who is now a diehard Survivor fan. You 1226 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 4: love to see it. Yeah, we've had a lot of 1227 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 4: people tweeted and say, oh my god, you guys somehow 1228 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,359 Speaker 4: got me hooked on Survivor. I started a podcast, which 1229 00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 4: is great. So yeah, the question, has anyone ever been 1230 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:05,320 Speaker 4: injured by the wildlife out there? Injured? One hundred percent, 1231 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 4: But I don't think anyone's ever been evacuated because of 1232 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:13,240 Speaker 4: an animal caused injury, at least from my quick research 1233 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,440 Speaker 4: and from what I can remember now. Again injuries. I 1234 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 4: remember Denise got bitten by something poisonous in the Philippines 1235 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 4: when she was out there way back in a few 1236 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 4: of the earlier seasons. John from marquses he had the 1237 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 4: Sir Sir Sea urchin spine in his finger. Kathy Pete 1238 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,959 Speaker 4: on it if you remember, Oh yeah, we had somebody 1239 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 4: get stabbed in the foot by a stingray back in Thailand. 1240 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 4: Richard Hatch, I think a bit while wrestling a shark. 1241 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 4: So it happens, but no one has had to be a. 1242 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 7: Vacated hang On, hang on, hang on, hang on. You 1243 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 7: can't just gloss over that. What the hell was he 1244 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 7: doing wrestling a shock? 1245 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 3: Oh there was like a bit. 1246 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 4: There was like a baby shark, like in the shallow water. 1247 00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 4: And he this was on All Stars, not the first 1248 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 4: season as Fiber Richard went. But he was like wrestling 1249 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 4: it and oh, it's a hilarious seed, like look it uply, 1250 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 4: it's so funny and he and he like tells the 1251 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 4: story incredibly. But yeah, he gets bit. He gets bit. 1252 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 4: The thing bites onto him. I think just one more 1253 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 4: note about the animals, though they say Season three in 1254 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,720 Speaker 4: Africa was by far the scariest because they were legit 1255 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 4: like lions and elephants roaming around like the boma that 1256 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 4: they set up around their camps, like the thorny branches 1257 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 4: like to keep out predators. And there are rumors like 1258 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 4: the African military was on hand like with guns and 1259 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 4: ordered to shoot like in the event of any real danger. Yeah, 1260 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 4: and the people that were on that season, they've talked 1261 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 4: about like how scary it was, Like they're like could 1262 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 4: see piercing eyes like in the middle of the on 1263 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 4: the other side of the branches, Like that is, oh 1264 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 4: my god, that is scary. Yeah, but I don't think 1265 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,440 Speaker 4: I don't think anyone had to leave the game because 1266 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 4: I don't know because that's like a shark bit them. 1267 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 3: And there have been obviously a lot of just injuries 1268 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 3: as well. On Survivor. 1269 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 6: We've seen like a dislocated shoulder from a really rough challenge, 1270 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 6: or you know, people hobbling from sprained ankles. But there's 1271 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,000 Speaker 6: also been quite a few people medically evacuated having medical 1272 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:17,360 Speaker 6: problems out there on the island that are too important 1273 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 6: and too timely that they need to be taken care 1274 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,480 Speaker 6: of right away rather than just hanging out on a 1275 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 6: beach for another thirty days. So I'm gonna hit you 1276 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 6: guys right now with my top five medical evacuations in 1277 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 6: Survivor history. 1278 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 3: To top five, top five, top by, top five, top five. 1279 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 6: At number five Neil from cal Wrong, who was removed 1280 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 6: from the game. 1281 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 3: For multiple staff infections. 1282 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 4: Cool. 1283 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,080 Speaker 6: This was a disgusting one, and infection is by far 1284 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 6: the easiest way to get out of Survivor. 1285 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 3: It's happened quite a few times. In this one. 1286 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 6: They bring a doctor to the to the kW Wrong 1287 00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 6: beach as soon the day after a challenge, and they 1288 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 6: check so many people for wounds. They check Aubrey, they 1289 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 6: check NBA player Scott Pollard, they check another guy, and 1290 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 6: then they finally checked Neil. And I was watching this 1291 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 6: clip this morning with the girls, and every time they 1292 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 6: showed this guy's wounds, they were like, eugh, he's got 1293 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 6: one on his knee that looks disgusting. And then he 1294 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 6: turns around and he's got one on his back that 1295 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 6: has like black puss coming out of it and scabbing, 1296 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 6: and the doctor's like, actually, that one's fine. The one 1297 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 6: on your knee is the problem, because it's tending to 1298 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 6: eat your knee in an hour. Yeah, they're like, what, 1299 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 6: so that's number five staph infections. Yeah, it's hard to 1300 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 6: keep your wounds clean when you're on a beach. At 1301 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,160 Speaker 6: number four, Mike from Samoa who was pulled from the 1302 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 6: game for being too old after after a very intense 1303 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,240 Speaker 6: challenge that I would I would call it a basket brawl. 1304 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 6: It's like down in the pit there are people wrestling 1305 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 6: for a ball, almost like XFL kickoff style, where you 1306 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 6: got to run out there and grab the ball. 1307 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 3: Then they throw it to. 1308 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 6: People on a platform who have to shoot like probably 1309 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 6: a twenty foot shot to a basketball hoop. This guy, 1310 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,880 Speaker 6: Mike is sixty two years old out there smashing his 1311 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 6: body into like twenty five year olds throwing him around. 1312 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 6: He literally looks like a Jeffrey Tambour character. So, I 1313 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 6: mean he's not the tightest bot out there. They come 1314 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 6: and check him the next day and he's just like exhausted, dehydrated, 1315 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 6: and honestly just sore from playing basketball against twenty year 1316 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:23,720 Speaker 6: olds for an hour. 1317 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,080 Speaker 3: So Mike, Mike and Samoa being old, that was a 1318 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 3: tough one. 1319 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 6: At number three, shamar On survivor karram Owen got sent 1320 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 6: home for having sand in his eye. This was a 1321 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 6: controversial one. Shamar was not well liked by his tribe. 1322 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 6: He had been targeted in previous tribal consoles. 1323 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 3: He told his tribe, I'm gonna quit this game. Then 1324 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 3: the next day he got a grain of sand in 1325 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 3: his eye. 1326 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 6: Nobody believed him, but the doctors came out checked that 1327 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 6: They're like, this could seriously mess up his vision, He 1328 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,720 Speaker 6: could get scratched corneas. You don't want sand in your eyes. 1329 01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 6: Literally everybody knows that. But the guy had had a 1330 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 6: run to start the season a survivor, so nobody believed him. 1331 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 3: Legit evacuation though yikes, at number two. 1332 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 6: My favorite survivor medical evacuation, Even though it comes in 1333 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,160 Speaker 6: at number two, we've talked about it for a second here. 1334 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,320 Speaker 6: Bruce on Panama, who got constipation after eating too many burgers, 1335 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 6: went back and read through all of the information about this. 1336 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 6: He claims that he didn't poop for ten days. Ten days, 1337 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 6: so then he wins a reward challenge and that he 1338 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 6: can eat like it's or it's actually a challenge where 1339 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 6: you can either eat while the other people compete, or 1340 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,440 Speaker 6: you're competing for immunity. He chose to eat while they 1341 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 6: compete so he's eating burgers as fast as he can, 1342 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,840 Speaker 6: and then afterwards he's like, couldn't pass a deuce, water, 1343 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,080 Speaker 6: couldn't pass a deuce. 1344 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 3: You got to be careful. 1345 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 6: We've seen a lot of people get tripped up by 1346 01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 6: eating too much on reward challenges, even if just lethargic. 1347 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 6: But Bruce, as far as I can tell, the only 1348 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,960 Speaker 6: guy to be evacuated for eating too much tragic, but 1349 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,760 Speaker 6: number one. Uh, the first and most dramatic medical evacuation, 1350 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 6: no doubt. Michael Season two Survivor. He fell into a 1351 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 6: fire while tending it and basically burned all the skin 1352 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:17,640 Speaker 6: off his hands. 1353 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 2: That was scary. 1354 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,280 Speaker 4: That, Yeah, it's bad. 1355 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's just like blowing into the fire, you know, 1356 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 6: to help it grow a little bit, but kind of 1357 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 6: inhales smoke and basically passes out, catches himself with his hands. 1358 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 3: And that destroys his hands. 1359 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 6: He goes into the ocean, uh, starts, you know, just 1360 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,160 Speaker 6: trying to cool his body down, and then he's gone. 1361 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 2: Oh my god. It was bad. 1362 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 1: It was especially this is scoop him, right, Yeah, scoop him. 1363 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,720 Speaker 1: He he sort of was coming into his own right 1364 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,800 Speaker 1: at that time. During the game as well, like he 1365 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 1: was really really getting into it, as I remember, like 1366 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 1: to the point where he was sort of like hunting 1367 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,880 Speaker 1: wild boar and like painting his face, you know, like 1368 01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:58,440 Speaker 1: Lord of the Fly style. 1369 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,040 Speaker 2: Uh, and then he just fell into the fire and 1370 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:02,120 Speaker 2: it was all over. 1371 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 4: All right, great top five there, TK, Well that didn't 1372 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,800 Speaker 4: even see that coming. All right, Before we wrap this up, guys, 1373 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,160 Speaker 4: to start with you, m VP of the episode, who 1374 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 4: are you giving. 1375 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 6: It to or what? 1376 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 5: I'll give it to Jeff Props for not being baited 1377 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:24,000 Speaker 5: by Wendell, just doing his job, staying professional and no words, 1378 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 5: no words thrown back at Wendell whatsoever. Jeff Propes, that's 1379 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:28,439 Speaker 5: why he's the best. 1380 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:34,320 Speaker 4: This game is the test says that. All right, Lee, 1381 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,040 Speaker 4: who you got for MVP back to back weeks? 1382 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:37,960 Speaker 2: For my man Wendell. 1383 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 7: I'm telling you, man, if he keeps doing this where 1384 01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 7: he keeps on snatching victory from the jaws of defeat, 1385 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 7: He's going to be m VP every week. I mean, 1386 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 7: just incredible that he's still alive. I mean, although I 1387 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 7: know you go to like an Edge of extinction anyway, 1388 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,880 Speaker 7: so you're not officially dead, but yeah, I just thought 1389 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 7: he was a goner last night, So great job, Wendel. 1390 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,840 Speaker 7: He's playing some other sort of on trick game when 1391 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 7: everyone else I think, and I think that's fantastic. 1392 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,920 Speaker 4: Trey, do you, I mean, because you've said before you 1393 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,800 Speaker 4: like Wendell's chances to win again, to win this season? 1394 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 4: Do you still believe that, Like, I mean, even with 1395 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 4: this edit he is getting could Wendall truly win this game? 1396 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm wearing a hashtag team Wendell. 1397 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:20,200 Speaker 6: Buff so can he Absolutely, he's got on a run 1398 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 6: of individual immunities here. 1399 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 3: But also there's no way he's gonna win. He's not 1400 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 3: looking good from a man. 1401 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 6: It's it's pretty funny that we finally started as her 1402 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,040 Speaker 6: fiver podcast and then like the one guy who's ever 1403 01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 6: been on our show is in the crosshairs for the 1404 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 6: entirety of the first two hours we've been talking about it. 1405 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,760 Speaker 6: That's why my MVP is Michelle, because she went from 1406 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,960 Speaker 6: last episode being one of the two who was possibly 1407 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 6: gonna go to now having Wendell on the defensive. She 1408 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,360 Speaker 6: helped with the Yule vote, and she's really flying under 1409 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 6: the radar here. I think she's playing a great game. 1410 01:05:53,480 --> 01:06:00,560 Speaker 1: GD MVP fire Tokens good one they are, well, they 1411 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 1: really got into Yule's head for one thing. Who knows 1412 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 1: how valuable they'll be, but they are definitely a factor 1413 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,800 Speaker 1: in the game. And I think just getting back to 1414 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:15,440 Speaker 1: just going full circle of here Yule being the strategic 1415 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,920 Speaker 1: player that he is, I think he just got overwhelmed 1416 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 1: by things like fire Tokens and the Edge of Extinction 1417 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:26,000 Speaker 1: and being an old school player coming in the game 1418 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:30,720 Speaker 1: in general is more fluid, there's more hidden advantages and 1419 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,080 Speaker 1: idols that he has to contend with. Factor in fire 1420 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 1: Tokens and Edge of Extinction, I mean, the strategy of 1421 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,280 Speaker 1: who am I going to vote out on good terms 1422 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 1: in case they come back from Edge of Extinction is 1423 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,960 Speaker 1: just I think it just did his head in, and 1424 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 1: the fire Tokens as well. So fire Tokens MVP of 1425 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:50,240 Speaker 1: this episode for me. 1426 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's well said, I mean really did appear that way. 1427 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 4: I'll give MVP to what's that guy's name again, the 1428 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,320 Speaker 4: guy in the Boston Hat. I know, Boston Rob. I'll 1429 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,160 Speaker 4: Boston Robin MVP just because he's the greatest hitter in 1430 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 4: MLB history. Now that in seven fifty in the clutch, 1431 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 4: But that was smooth. I always do love a good 1432 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:15,000 Speaker 4: flashback too, in a Survivor episode where it's like, Okay, 1433 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:16,840 Speaker 4: you think this is happening, and then it's like, oh, 1434 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,800 Speaker 4: ten minutes prior, Boston rob just sprinted up there with 1435 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,240 Speaker 4: his portly belly there and got all those basically all 1436 01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,280 Speaker 4: of them. It almost worked out for him that he 1437 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 4: didn't find all of them in a weird way, you 1438 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like it was almost beneficial that 1439 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,680 Speaker 4: Tyson got one, or he overlooked one or something like that. 1440 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 4: I think that actually helped him. That Tyson got the one, 1441 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 4: and everybody knows Tyson has one, but just really no 1442 01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 4: one knows who has the other three. But Boston Robb 1443 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:43,200 Speaker 4: coming through in the. 1444 01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,200 Speaker 1: Clut also showed how great he is at bluffing and 1445 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 1: lasting basically because he had the three tokens. And he 1446 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,560 Speaker 1: definitely fooled me and he fooled Tray, and I think 1447 01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,959 Speaker 1: we were all fooled until we saw that edit. Yeah, 1448 01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,960 Speaker 1: that he you know, none of them suspected him at all. 1449 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,440 Speaker 6: He was smart enough to ask Amber like just jokingly, 1450 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,520 Speaker 6: hey you got any there was like hahha, she would 1451 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 6: tell you if she. 1452 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 1: Had got him, smooth and then and considering that they 1453 01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,919 Speaker 1: all knew that he got there first, and he's still 1454 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,040 Speaker 1: convinced them that he didn't have any That's pretty great. 1455 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great point. Yeah, they all knew he 1456 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,600 Speaker 4: was there on the scene first, and then he's just 1457 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,840 Speaker 4: playing dumb that he that he couldn't find any You're 1458 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,519 Speaker 4: you're absolutely right. Uh, okay, So we have the merge. 1459 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,439 Speaker 4: We got to drop your buffs. That's happening next week. 1460 01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 4: Very very exciting. 1461 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:30,120 Speaker 3: Uh. 1462 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 4: Always one of the uh generally usually one of the 1463 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,599 Speaker 4: more enjoyable episodes from a season because it's just pure 1464 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,720 Speaker 4: insanity and by the looks of it, it's going to 1465 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,760 Speaker 4: be like everybody's throwing around names and who do you 1466 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,680 Speaker 4: trust and all that. My final question here before we 1467 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,280 Speaker 4: say goodbye is like, who do you have sort of 1468 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 4: the most faith in or who is in the best 1469 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:50,759 Speaker 4: spot heading into this merge? 1470 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:51,800 Speaker 3: JD. 1471 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,679 Speaker 2: Who do you think it is going into the merge? 1472 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:55,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1473 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 2: Who's just set up? 1474 01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:56,639 Speaker 4: Well? 1475 01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 1: I think Jeremy is extremely set up. Well, yeah, he 1476 01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,680 Speaker 1: is under the he's got it seems like there's a 1477 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:07,559 Speaker 1: pretty strong alliance with him Denise and Kim and possibly 1478 01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,840 Speaker 1: Tony as well. So if it's the four of them, 1479 01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,800 Speaker 1: then there's two other alliances that they have to deal with. 1480 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,800 Speaker 1: Both of them have three and one of them has 1481 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,639 Speaker 1: has Wendell, who seems like he is on his way out, 1482 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:24,599 Speaker 1: but who knows. But I would say Jeremy, Okay, Trey 1483 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,439 Speaker 1: who I think it's tough. 1484 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 6: I mean, I kind of think that next week's vote 1485 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,360 Speaker 6: is gonna be it's gonna be big. 1486 01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:34,599 Speaker 3: We're gonna see some serious flipping. 1487 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,360 Speaker 6: We're gonna see some original to call Red Tribe flip 1488 01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 6: over to the Blue Tribe. So that's why I kind 1489 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,640 Speaker 6: of got to think of a Blue Tribe member who 1490 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:42,880 Speaker 6: I think is in the best spot, and I think 1491 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:43,679 Speaker 6: it might be Michelle. 1492 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,080 Speaker 3: I think she's just doing She does such a. 1493 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 6: Great job of just cruising along and throwing you know, 1494 01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,640 Speaker 6: throwing concerns on other people, you know, just kind of 1495 01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 6: getting it off her. She has befriended everybody that she's 1496 01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,720 Speaker 6: been on a tribe with. She's playing an incredible social game, 1497 01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:01,840 Speaker 6: and I think that I think Blue is going to 1498 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:03,280 Speaker 6: be looking good come merge time. 1499 01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:03,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1500 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,200 Speaker 4: Interesting, with only having the three people, sometimes that's beneficial. 1501 01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,160 Speaker 4: You're absolutely right, well, and Kim. 1502 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:10,800 Speaker 3: Is ready to flip. 1503 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 6: I mean, she's set up right with Jeremy and Denise 1504 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,280 Speaker 6: who were both originally Selle members. So that changes the 1505 01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:17,880 Speaker 6: numbers to blue advantage right there. 1506 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, and just so everybody knows, because it's 1507 01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,479 Speaker 4: always important when you head into the merge, like where 1508 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,960 Speaker 4: the AMMO lies. Sarah has a steal of vote. Sophie 1509 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,280 Speaker 4: has an immunity idol, so does Kim, and Jeremy has 1510 01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:34,000 Speaker 4: that safety without power, the peace out as we've called it, 1511 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,519 Speaker 4: where he can just get up and leave a tribal council. 1512 01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 4: So that's where that's who has all the weapons right now, 1513 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,080 Speaker 4: because that could come into play too, especially if we 1514 01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,320 Speaker 4: have some sort of split type of vote here and there. 1515 01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,640 Speaker 4: A steel vote could work, or a community idol if 1516 01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:48,200 Speaker 4: people don't know you have it, and stuff like that. 1517 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,640 Speaker 4: So it should be good, all right, So get your 1518 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,720 Speaker 4: questions in no dunks at the Athletic dot com. If 1519 01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,080 Speaker 4: you've got a survivor specific question, throw survivor in the 1520 01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,639 Speaker 4: subject and we'll be back with no buffs next week. 1521 01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,840 Speaker 4: As for Monday's film session, I know we had a 1522 01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:05,880 Speaker 4: poll up. What was leading the poll, by the way, 1523 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:06,720 Speaker 4: is anywhere met was it? 1524 01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:07,160 Speaker 3: Airbud? 1525 01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,920 Speaker 4: Okay? Well, here's the thing. We're gonna hold on. We're 1526 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 4: gonna get to air Bud. Don't you worry. We'll tackle 1527 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:18,679 Speaker 4: that dog. But we're gonna go. We're going new school 1528 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 4: because new schools dominating in Survivor. We have decided we're 1529 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:27,280 Speaker 4: gonna watch Uncut Gems for Monday's film sessions. So that 1530 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,880 Speaker 4: is your homework here coming up on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. 1531 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,280 Speaker 4: You gotta get uncut Gems in. I know you international 1532 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,000 Speaker 4: Netflix people, I think you got it. You have it 1533 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,240 Speaker 4: on that service. Not here in the States, hit, but 1534 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,559 Speaker 4: I guess it's what video on demand. We can buy 1535 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:41,240 Speaker 4: it here in the States. 1536 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:42,400 Speaker 2: I can buy it. We can rent it. 1537 01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,519 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, yeah, rent it. That's what man. So Uncut 1538 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:49,839 Speaker 4: Gems Monday's film session, and we're working on a new squad. 1539 01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,240 Speaker 4: We'll obviously be hitting the beach. We got no bus, 1540 01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:56,760 Speaker 4: a whole lot more in the works. Until next time. 1541 01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:58,400 Speaker 4: The tribe is spoken. 1542 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,040 Speaker 2: E crime 1543 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 6: Cri