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Speaker 1: Welcome to One Bill's Light, the drive through window version

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Speaker 1: of One Bills Live, where we give you statistical trends

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Speaker 1: in a game show fashion, some Bills knowledge that may

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Speaker 1: have slipped through the cracks, and we answer one burning

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Speaker 1: question that plus our interview guest senior producer from NFL Films,

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Speaker 1: Greg Coe Sell. Let's get to it at a Steve

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Speaker 1: taster who has been all over the fields. Kind of unique.

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Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for you.

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Speaker 1: Stave of a lily, Steve a blimp. We're not even

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Speaker 1: in the stratosphere of normalcy. First Brown, Steve Tasker here

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Speaker 1: with you for another episode of One Bills Light, where

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Speaker 1: we provide some of the more interesting aspects of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills in as entertaining a way as possible. All

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Speaker 1: in about thirty to forty minutes, and we begin, as always,

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Speaker 1: Steve with your favorite part of the show, our numbers game,

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Speaker 1: where we test the limits of Steve's football acumen. And

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Speaker 1: in our last episode we discussed the likelihood of Stefan

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Speaker 1: Diggs setting the all time single season receptions record in

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Speaker 1: Bill's history. He's currently tied, as you know, Steve with

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Speaker 1: Eric Molds at exactly one hundred receptions, which is the

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Speaker 1: record that Eric originally sent in two thousand and two.

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Speaker 1: And he's right there as expected Steve after a ten

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Speaker 1: catch performance and last week's went against the Steelers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna get it. He's healthy, They're headed

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Speaker 1: into Denver and I'll betty he breaks this record in

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Speaker 1: the first series of the game, right, I mean the

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Speaker 1: question is what the what number going to be after

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Speaker 1: our last one Bill's Life podcast episode and we were saying, ah,

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Speaker 1: somewhere between one oh five one fifteen, because we're wondering

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Speaker 1: if he even plays in week sixteen. Right, So right

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Speaker 1: now and jumps out gets ten catches on the you

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Speaker 1: know the day, He's got four games with ten receptions, right,

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Speaker 1: so we have to reap right, it might be one

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Speaker 1: fifteen to one twenty. Yeah, with three games left, that'd

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Speaker 1: give him you know, seven games, that'd be seven catches

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Speaker 1: or right at six catches a game. Siyah, it's gonna yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big number. And he's in a

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Speaker 1: race two with Keenan Allen of the Chargers for the

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Speaker 1: league receptions title. Allan one catch behind him at ninety

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Speaker 1: nine entering the Thursday night game for the Chargers with

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. The problem with Keenan Allen and being in

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Speaker 1: a race with Keenan Allen and who's playing for the

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Speaker 1: Chargers is the Chargers are going to be have their

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Speaker 1: foot on the gas all the way to the end

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Speaker 1: of the season. They're trying to win games. The Bills

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Speaker 1: maybe not so much, depending on what the people around

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Speaker 1: them do. Now. Certainly the Bills could jump into the

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Speaker 1: two seed if they tie with Pittsburgh. The Bills could

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Speaker 1: catch him this weekend. Certainly, if the Bills win, they

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Speaker 1: clinched the division. Well, if you clinched the division, the

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Speaker 1: only thing possible to enhance your season would be getting

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Speaker 1: the number two seats. You know, maybe the number one

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Speaker 1: seed if if the wheels fall off Kansas City, But

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Speaker 1: you know that you have to weigh are you really

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Speaker 1: interested in getting the two seed rather than having the

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Speaker 1: three seed more than resting Josh Allen, you know, Devin Singletary,

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Speaker 1: that more important going in the playoffs? Having those guys

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Speaker 1: the three seeds. Neither one gets a buy. That's that's

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Speaker 1: the big question, and that all affects Steph Diggs in

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Speaker 1: this race with Keenan Allen. If I mean who you're

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Speaker 1: Steph Diggs. Yeah, and I think they they might be

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Speaker 1: So maybe he replaces Digs in that number one role

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Speaker 1: for the last week or two of the season. That's possible. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: You you say, listen, we're not gonna run him at all.

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Speaker 1: But it's the rest of the guys who you're gonna

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Speaker 1: every year. You see teams go through it every year,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's something that has affected the Bills all

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Speaker 1: that much of the right, but it's allot to consider

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Speaker 1: for sure. In this week's episode, though, we are going

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Speaker 1: to talk about another part of the receiving game, namely

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Speaker 1: sure handedness. Now, per NFL Radar three sixty stats in Information,

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Speaker 1: there is one Bills player on the league's current top

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Speaker 1: ten list for both fewest drops and lowest drop percentage.

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Speaker 1: So Cole Beasley is the only Bills receiving target who

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Speaker 1: So it's not some shlub that's bought three out of

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Speaker 1: Two drops in one hundred and fourteen targets. Chicago's Alan

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Speaker 1: big story on Jefferson is that the Vikings traded away

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Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs and we couldn't be happier in Buffalo about it.

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Speaker 1: three drops on one hundred and one targets. Number two

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Speaker 1: job you did it all right there. Part two of

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Speaker 1: our numbers game involves Bills receiving touchdown streets. As we know,

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Speaker 1: Bill rookie wide receiver Gabriel Davis now has a touchdown

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Speaker 1: catch in each of his last three games. First, do

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Speaker 1: you know what the Bills record is for consecutive games

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Speaker 1: Buffalo is going to score points and put you know,

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Speaker 1: and put some distance between themselves and put the pressure

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Speaker 1: on them offensively, they're going to have to make hay

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Speaker 1: in the red zone and come away with a lot

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Speaker 1: of touchdowns instead of field goals. So how do you think,

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Speaker 1: What do the Denver Broncos do so well in the

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Speaker 1: red zone and how could Buffalo attack that? Well, it's funny,

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Speaker 1: you know. We can talk about their lacking personnel, but

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Speaker 1: Vic Fangio to me, and I've talked to people in

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Speaker 1: the league, he's a savant when it comes to defense.

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Speaker 1: He is really really good at showing you one thing

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Speaker 1: and then doing something else. He's really good with disguise

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Speaker 1: and movement. Safeties are really important to him. And in

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Speaker 1: the red zone where it's tight or that even matters

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Speaker 1: more when you sort of show something and it's not

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Speaker 1: exactly what it is. One area I think Josh has

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Speaker 1: improved dramatically this year though, and I'm speaking about the

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Speaker 1: red zone, is the ability to make quick decisions and

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Speaker 1: get the ball out with timing and anticipation. You know.

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Speaker 1: I think back to that easily touchdown versus San Francisco

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Speaker 1: where Richard Sherman was just you know, a hair laid

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Speaker 1: getting there. But in the red zone, a hair laid

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Speaker 1: is a mile late. You know, you guys know that.

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Speaker 1: So I think that that Josh is so much better

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Speaker 1: with his you know, elimination of where he does not

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Speaker 1: want to go and then is isolating where you should

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Speaker 1: go because everything is a little faster in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: It has to be faster because there's not enough room.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's an area where he's really improved.

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Speaker 1: What about the Josh's you know, the threat of him

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Speaker 1: being a runner down there, But obviously when you get

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Speaker 1: in the red zone the run game, if you can

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Speaker 1: run the ball in the red zone, everything changes for

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Speaker 1: the offense and obviously also for the defense. So Josh's

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Speaker 1: ability to do that has got away on Vic Fanzio's

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Speaker 1: mind as well, no question, And I think that happens

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Speaker 1: particularly in the tight red zone from the ten yards

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Speaker 1: in where you can put Josh in the gun, you

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Speaker 1: can spread him out, you can force him to defend

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Speaker 1: the width of the field, and then you light, you

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Speaker 1: light in the box and that's where the run game

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Speaker 1: with Josh becomes a factor. Maybe a quarterback draw, we'll see,

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Speaker 1: but I mean that's always a factor with Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: in the red zone. We haven't seen as much of

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Speaker 1: it lately because you know, they've been scoring, they've been

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Speaker 1: doing well, but that's certainly part of what they do.

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Speaker 1: And here you're seeing a you know, a zone read

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Speaker 1: type play, which they certainly can do as well, but no,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's legs in the red zone are a definite factor.

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Speaker 1: Looking at Denver's offense, Greg obviously they tried to add

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Speaker 1: speed to their unit in the draft with kJ Hammler.

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Speaker 1: You know, had a big game last week with two touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: and then Jerry Judy is a really accomplished route runner

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Speaker 1: for a young player. They didn't have no a fan

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Speaker 1: last week because of food poisoning. It seems like more

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Speaker 1: than anything else, he's back this week, and I know

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Speaker 1: the Bills have been susceptible to giving up catches and

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Speaker 1: yards to opposing tight ends. This year, I think they

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Speaker 1: have the second highest total in the league allowed. Maybe

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Speaker 1: just paint the picture for us on Fant a little

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Speaker 1: bit and the weapon that he can be in the

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Speaker 1: Broncos passing game. Well, Fan is almost one of those

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Speaker 1: glorified wide receivers who's just big enough to be a

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Speaker 1: tight end. He came out of Io, he actually played

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Speaker 1: with t. J. Hockenson. A Fan is a speed guy.

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Speaker 1: You want to be careful with him with two things.

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Speaker 1: He can win vertically and he can run after catch,

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Speaker 1: and you want to make sure. Look, obviously you do

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Speaker 1: not want to give up big vertical plays, but more

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Speaker 1: importantly you do not want him to get the ball

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Speaker 1: and then to run after catch. And now they do

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Speaker 1: some things to try to get him the ball in

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Speaker 1: space where that becomes a factor. So you've got to

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Speaker 1: be careful with him. Now they've got a very good

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Speaker 1: receiving core. Tim Patrick has really emerged as kind of

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Speaker 1: a boundary acts. Big kid runs well. Judy is a

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Speaker 1: fascinating guy. Obviously, their pass game this year has been

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Speaker 1: very inconsistent. Lockman's time, he's still finding his way. But

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Speaker 1: I watched tape of their offense and it seems like

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jude's open all the time. He just is a

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Speaker 1: really good route runner. And then kJ Hamler, he's he's

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Speaker 1: a Penn State kid who he's got great quickness, great

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Speaker 1: lateral quickness, has some vertical ability as we saw last week.

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Speaker 1: So they do have a very good and very explosive

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Speaker 1: receiving corps. They just have not developed any kind of

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Speaker 1: consistent passing game. And some of that's a function of

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Speaker 1: Lock missing time, and then some of it's a function

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Speaker 1: of Locke just not being consistent himself yet. So but

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Speaker 1: you just don't want this to be the week that

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Speaker 1: it all collects. We've heard that, you know, Drew Locke

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Speaker 1: has you know, he's one of those guys that loves

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Speaker 1: to throw the football down the field. Oh yeah, And

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Speaker 1: is that that they call plays like that or are

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Speaker 1: they trying to get to him to get him to

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Speaker 1: take easier completions? Are they designing because he was I

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Speaker 1: think he was twelve or twelve to start against Carolina,

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Speaker 1: which is, you know, a great start for a quarterback. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: was that game planned or was it just him somebody

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Speaker 1: get into his ear and just taking those those easy

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Speaker 1: completions for a change. Well, there were a number of

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Speaker 1: those easy ones in that game. And I think one

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Speaker 1: of the main issues with Locke is is doing that,

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Speaker 1: is taking those those plays, is being a sustaining quarterback

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Speaker 1: and not just a big play quarterback. Because this league

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Speaker 1: is all about situational football. We always tend to talk

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Speaker 1: about that more in terms of the defense with situational

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Speaker 1: football because of the different personnel packages, but that's very

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Speaker 1: true for offense as well, and for quarterbacks. That's why

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Speaker 1: the term system quarterback is not a negative term, or

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Speaker 1: game manager is not a negative term, because every quarterback

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Speaker 1: has to manage game situations and understand when you make

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Speaker 1: throws and when you don't make throws. And Drew is

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Speaker 1: still learning that, so you know some of it's by

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Speaker 1: design obviously, but he'll turn it loose, and you know,

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Speaker 1: you want to be in a situation where when he

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Speaker 1: turns it loose that he's not going to hit big

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Speaker 1: plays because he's he's more than capable. He's he's a

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Speaker 1: big time thrower of the football. Taking a look at

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Speaker 1: some of the other matchups this week, there's one that

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Speaker 1: you know, Bill's fans will have their eye on in

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Speaker 1: the AFC East between the Dolphins and the Patriots. We

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Speaker 1: know Bill Belichick's history against rookie quarterbacks, so him against Tuah.

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Speaker 1: Are you expecting that trend to hold and that Belichick

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Speaker 1: will get the better of him. Well, I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what I think I'll expect from Bill's defense. Whether it works,

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out. I think what you'll see

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Speaker 1: from Bill's defense because Tuah is such a timing rhythm player,

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Speaker 1: and in fact, Belichick spoke about that in his press

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Speaker 1: conference this week, I think what you'll see is a

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Speaker 1: lot of disguise and late movement in coverage so that

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Speaker 1: when Tua hits that back foot, what he saw at

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Speaker 1: the snap is not going to be the same thing

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Speaker 1: that he sees when he hits that back foot, and

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Speaker 1: therefore force him to hold the football because where ta

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Speaker 1: is not yet at that point in his career, and

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Speaker 1: who knows he may never be. We don't know what

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Speaker 1: he's going to be. But what you want with two

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Speaker 1: is you want to hit that back foot and not

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Speaker 1: be able to throw where he thinks he wants to throw,

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Speaker 1: and then see what happens after that. But two is

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Speaker 1: so timing, rhythm based, with a great feel for the

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Speaker 1: passing game. But everything comes out and you want to

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Speaker 1: make sure that it doesn't come out, or if it

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Speaker 1: does come out, that you've shown him something that he thinks.

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Speaker 1: But it's not really that right. What is the matchup

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Speaker 1: around the league that you guys are most looking forward

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Speaker 1: to an NFL matchup? Probably Casey Neworleans. Drew Brees will

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Speaker 1: be back this week. There are two things that immediately

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Speaker 1: stand out when you watch the Chief Defense with Steve Spagnolo,

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Speaker 1: and that's that they play a lot of man coverage

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Speaker 1: and they heat you up with blitz. And I would

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Speaker 1: do that with Drew Brees because Drew's been out for

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Speaker 1: five weeks or so. Great Hall of Fame player, but

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Speaker 1: you know, you know when you're out, Steve, when you're

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Speaker 1: out four or five weeks, it's a little faster right

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Speaker 1: away when you get back in. And plus, Drew's gonna

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Speaker 1: want to get it out fast because of the nature

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Speaker 1: of his injuries. He's not gonna want to take shots.

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Speaker 1: So I would play press and I would I would

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Speaker 1: heat him up. And obviously Spags didn't give me a

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Speaker 1: call to get my opinion, but that's the way I

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Speaker 1: would see it, right, all right, Greg, thanks for the insight.

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Speaker 1: As always, we appreciate it. We'll keep an eye out

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Speaker 1: for you on the ESPN NFL Matchup Show this weekend.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, appreciate it. Thanks, thank you. Thanks great

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Speaker 1: co Sale, senior producer of NFL Films and the self

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Speaker 1: appointed president of the Arren Johnson Fan Club. We have

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Speaker 1: to take away that, right. That's right, all right, Steve.

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Speaker 1: I know we played the numbers game in the first

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Speaker 1: half of the program. On the back half here, there

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Speaker 1: are some other numbers that are coming about as we

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Speaker 1: wind down the regular season, numbers that make you say wow,

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Speaker 1: just some amazing statistics and I wanted to run some

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Speaker 1: past you just to see what you think. This is

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Speaker 1: the state of the Texans as we know it. Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson is twelve and ozho as a starter when he

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Speaker 1: has sacked one or fewer times. He is sixteen and

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Speaker 1: twenty two when he has sacked two or more times

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Speaker 1: in a game. If that doesn't make you feel bad

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Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson, I don't know what does I mean?

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Speaker 1: That is just I know they made the trade for

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Speaker 1: Laramie Tunsel to try to improve things upfront, knowing how

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Speaker 1: valuable Deshaun Watson is to their success. But they got

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Speaker 1: to just draft four linemen next year or something, or

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Speaker 1: trade for another one. You protect him, you win. I

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Speaker 1: think the NFL you I get it. But when Bill

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Speaker 1: O'Brien was the head coach and then became general manager,

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Speaker 1: it was really it became really evident of what has

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Speaker 1: to happen in an NFL football team. You can't just

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Speaker 1: say we gotta win now. Yeah, if you do, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna pay the piper. And the Texans are a perfect

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Speaker 1: example of that. Yeah. I mean, Brandon Bean said, we

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Speaker 1: want to win now, but we also have to build

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Speaker 1: to be perennially good so we can contend, and that's

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Speaker 1: why they That's a delicate balance, but the good general

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Speaker 1: managers can do it. And I'll tell you this, they got.

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Speaker 1: They built this thing over three years to get to

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Speaker 1: this point. They had two full seasons of play in football,

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Speaker 1: where they about three full with Sean McDermott. The first

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Speaker 1: year they come in. They had some players here, but

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Speaker 1: it wasn't the right culture to be sustainable or continue on.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't what they wanted to do to be the

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Speaker 1: kind of program they wanted going forward. They get to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs that year one and done in Jacksonville. The

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Speaker 1: next year they get Josh. They take a step backwards,

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Speaker 1: but they start building what they want to get. They

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Speaker 1: start putting the pieces together. They were cap strapped because

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Speaker 1: of what happened exactly, had to bite the bullet. They

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Speaker 1: couldn't get the players they wanted. Then the next year,

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Speaker 1: of course, last year they kind of got the kind

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Speaker 1: of began to build it the way they wanted to

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Speaker 1: build it, and of course they went to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And now they're they're sustaining it and going forward and

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Speaker 1: actually getting better. That's Whatiston's a mess. Yeah, they get

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Speaker 1: a new coach, and they got they got like nineteen people.

641
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 1: They got people writing articles about who's making the decision

642
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: in yeah, in Houston, about you know, how dysfunctional it

643
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: seems to be. It is and you gotta take your time,

644
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: build it the right way and trust that it's gonna work.

645
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: And man, oh man, and now they're behind schedule because

646
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, you got Shaun Watson going to his fifth

647
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: season next year, and you know, I mean the clock

648
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: is ticking now. So now you gotta he signed his deal. Right,

649
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: he's got his He's on a second contract. So they've

650
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: got their quarterback. But man, oh man, don't waste him. Yeah,

651
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: figure out the rest of it and fast. All right,

652
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: here's another stat that makes you go wow, well, well

653
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: maybe not. The Jets have allowed thirty plus points steve

654
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: in all eight of their non divisional games this season.

655
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: Eight straight such games is the longest streak since the

656
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: NFL first split into four divisions in nineteen sixty seven.

657
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: Are you surprised, I mean, forty to three last week.

658
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised. I am a little surprised. I

659
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: mean they're not even competitive. I am a little surprised

660
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: by that, I think. And this is and this is

661
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: another one. Two years ago, the year Sam Darnold and

662
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: Josh Allen got drafted. If you remember, the Bills and

663
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: the Jets were almost in a in an identical position.

664
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: Identical Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, a ton of cap room.

665
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: They had, uh, they had their quarterback of the future,

666
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, new head, they had a chance

667
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: to get a new head coach, had a head coach

668
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: in place in h In Todd Bowles. But you know,

669
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: they were in the exact same spot and now three

670
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: years later, two years later, three years later, they what

671
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: are they doing all? They're doing what they always do,

672
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: mess it up. Uh, we got to move along here.

673
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, Steve has just as many rushing touchdowns and

674
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: big rushing plays as Derrick Henry does, despite playing one

675
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: fewer game than him this season. Knowing how much Derrick

676
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 1: Henry gets the dang ball, and granted the Minnesota offense

677
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: now runs through Dalvin Cook, but and I know if

678
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: he's had a big year, but I was surprised to

679
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: see that just as effective. And he has the identical

680
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: number of carries per game twenty two point eight. But

681
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: he's right there with him. Fourteen rushing touchdowns, thirty seven

682
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: runs of ten plus yards. I don't know that he's

683
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: just as good. And he doesn't get nearly the pub. No,

684
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't because I think I think Minnesota, well, Minnesota's

685
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: not leading their division, they're not winning, They're they're not

686
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: the number one seed, They're not winning right now. That's

687
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 1: a big that's a big factor in that as well.

688
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: Tennessee also is coming off the Cinderella finished they had

689
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: to last season when they got to the conference championship.

690
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: Game behind Tannehill and Derrick Henry. So there's kind of

691
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: that carryover awareness. Yeah, other than that, there is no difference.

692
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: There's certainly different kinds of backs Dalvin Cook than Derrick Henry.

693
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, Derrick Henry's good, but you know there's

694
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: another guy just like him. Yeah, that's having exactly the

695
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: same kind of productions. That's amazing. Last stat that will

696
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: make you go wow, Travis Kelcey leads the NFL in

697
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: receiving yards with twelve hundred and fifty this season. No

698
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: tight end has ever led the NFL in receiving yards

699
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: over the course of a full season. He needs one

700
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight yards to set a new NFL

701
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: record for receiving yards in a season by a tight end.

702
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: George Kittle just set that back in twenty eighteen with

703
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: thirteen hundred and seventy seven yards. He's gonna get that

704
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks, provided they're still playing, unless

705
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: they sit him, you know, for a game or two.

706
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: Pretty amazing that this is how far the tight end

707
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: position has come. Because he's not alone. I mean, there's

708
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: a there's a handkill tight end that that kind of thing. Yeah,

709
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of them. It is Wow. It's particularly

710
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: if he pulls it off right and goes to distancing

711
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: and fourteen hundred receiving yards. I mean, I remember Tony

712
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: Gonzalez was big, Shannon Sharpe was big. You know, they

713
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: were liking Kellen Winslow never had a year any quirk close.

714
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: It's a different world for tight ends now and yeah,

715
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: Travis is He's knocking it out. And I think the

716
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: thing that gets you about this is the consistency that

717
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: they can do it with the weekend week out, year in,

718
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: year out, and I think that's the most impressive part

719
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: about those numbers. And good for him then that'll be

720
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: a historic moment if he can pull it off. Finally,

721
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: we have one burning question where we have a query

722
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: that involves a participant in Saturday's game between the Bills

723
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: and the Broncos. We know that Josh Allen Steve is

724
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: part of what is looking to be a pretty good

725
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen quarterback class, Alan Baker, Mayfield, Lamar Jackson showing

726
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: well for that group. Denver quarterback Drew Locke one of

727
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: eight quarterbacks in the twenty nineteen draft class. He was

728
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: the fourth quarterback taken that year. Forty second overall pick.

729
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray was the top pick that year. The others

730
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: taken ahead of Lock were Daniel Jones and Dwayne Haskins.

731
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: The others taken after him Will Greer in round three,

732
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: Ryan Finley, and Jared Stidham in round four, and there

733
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: were some others after him, Trace McSorley, Gardner Minshew among them.

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00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: The burning question, Steve, is what quarterbacks from the twenty

735
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: nineteen quarterback class will have similar success to the top

736
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: three success stories from the twenty eighteen quarterback class. Now,

737
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: there are a lot of factors to be considered here

738
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 1: with respect to team coaching, player development, quarterback dedication, etc.

739
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: But here's how I paired them up. Steve. You tell

740
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: me what you think Baker Mayfield. I think the Baker

741
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: Mayfield of the twenty nineteen class is probably going to

742
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: be Kyler Murray. And maybe I am a victim of

743
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: comparing stature quarterback grooming at the college level because both

744
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: went to Oklahoma, But I kind of see them similarly,

745
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: and I think Arizona has similar skill people around Kyler,

746
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 1: much the way the Browns do in Cleveland with Baker.

747
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of good receiving targets. You know,

748
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: a premier got it somewhat of a running game, still

749
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: figuring it out. But that just seemed like the comparison

750
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: to me. I didn't really have a comparison for Lamar Jackson.

751
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: He's a unicorn, but well, right, there's nobody really like him. Um,

752
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: his skill set is in sharp contrast to others. I

753
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,959
Speaker 1: had Gardner Minshow for Sam Darnold because both teams both

754
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: players are on wayward franchises. Yeah that's true, Yeah, and

755
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: will likely not get the players round pick right, but

756
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: they will probably not get the player team. And then

757
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: for Dwayne Haskins, I had Josh Rosen because Dwayne Haskins

758
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: is going to end up traded or somewhere else, much

759
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: like Josh Rosen got bounced around two. But for Drew Locke,

760
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: I compared him to Josh Allen. Now I might be

761
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: overly optimistic about Drew Locke, but the reason I went

762
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: with this comparison number one was because I didn't have

763
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: a better one. But number two. Kids got a decent arm.

764
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: It's not a Josh Allen arm, but it's not are off.

765
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: He loves throwing the deep ball. And he has receiving

766
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 1: talent around him that has been assembled in a similar

767
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: way to the way it's been assembled here in Buffalo.

768
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: He's got Jerry Judy, who I think is you know,

769
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: a premier route runner. I'm not saying any Stefan Diggs.

770
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: He's got a deep threat in Courtland Sutton who has

771
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: been out all season with an injury. And he's got

772
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: a really good young slot guy in kJ Hamler. And

773
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: he's got an athlete at tight end in Noah Fan.

774
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: In terms of the weapons around him, I think they're

775
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: building it similar to the way it was built here

776
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: in Buffalo in terms of getting those targets and talent

777
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: around him so he can just distribute the football. How

778
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: much he's dedicated to improving his own game, that stuff

779
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: I do not know. I do not know him well enough.

780
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: We had We've been talking all week about Locke and

781
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: how he's and how this last game was his best

782
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: game as a pro, and there was a concerted effort

783
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: in the game plan to row short and easier completions.

784
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: He has been go to the check down. They have

785
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: been pushing the ball down the field a ton, and

786
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: those are hard throws to make. Now you got a

787
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: quarterback like Drew Locke who's got the big arm, and

788
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's a big, tall guy and he

789
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: can see it. But you know you're asking him to

790
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: make the five percent completions throw every time. Yeah, and

791
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: that's what your completion percentage is gonna be a little

792
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: bit like Josh was at Wyoming. Then when they get

793
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: they back off that a little bit. They take this

794
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: check downs, They've tap some throws that are easy completions.

795
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: They get him started in the game, like what twelve

796
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: or twelve or ten for ten in that game against

797
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: Carolina and it's a whole different game. He has four touchdowns,

798
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: zero interceptions, and a high completion percentage twenty one to

799
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: twenty seven in a game enough season where he's been

800
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: like what fifty eight, Yeah, up and down. So I

801
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: think that there's as much about the positives that's been

802
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: around Josh here in Buffalo as the negatives have been

803
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: around Drew Drew Locke in Denver. You got a defensive

804
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: head coach in Denver who wants to who is afraid

805
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: as a defensive coordinator this deep balls. He says, we'll

806
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: throw the deep ball because that's what they're afraid of. Yeah,

807
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: the guy's over here in Buffalo. Were like, hey, let's

808
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: be creative, give him some options, put some guys around him,

809
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: give him some easy completions, and convince him he should

810
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: take him. And now you got this, Josh, who's you know,

811
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 1: ten and three headed the playoffs and Drew Lock, who's

812
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: over here trying to hit the fifteen yard come back

813
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 1: to the opposite hash as an outlet. There's a difference

814
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: in coaching philosophies there that only started to get fixed

815
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: maybe this last week in Denver, and Pat shermer is

816
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: will be a help for him as the OC there

817
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: in Denver. I think that's a good guy that knows

818
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 1: how to work with quarterbacks and developed them. So hopefully

819
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: that means good things for Drew Lock down the road.

820
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 1: And I didn't even know this. He and Josh Allen

821
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: are pretty good friends, their buddies, They know each other

822
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: pretty well. And I actually heard Josh on the conference

823
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: call this week saying, yeah, Drew Lock's got the dance

824
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: moves over me, because he's been seen dancing on the

825
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: sidelines when the defense is on the field, and he's

826
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: got dance moves and whatnot. So Josh gave him the

827
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: dance moved title over him for sure, but they are

828
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: good friends, so this will be an interesting battle this weekend.

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Speaker 1: That is all the time we have for this episode

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Speaker 1: of One Bill's Light. Thanks for joining us, and remember

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Speaker 1: when there isn't enough time for One Bills Live, there's

832
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: always enough time for One Bill's Light. For Steve Tasker,

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00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: I'm Chris Brown. Merry Christmas, everybody,