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Speaker 1: affiliates around the country. Patriots have an ability to well
Speaker 1: surprise you a little bit. Just when you thought things
Speaker 1: were going to be a little bit quiet. Maybe they
Speaker 1: had decided that Jared Stidham was their guy they moved
Speaker 1: on from Tom Brady, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they go, let's bring in Cam Newton here. Now, it's
Speaker 1: not surprising that Cam is being brought in. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought that that seemed like a
Speaker 1: good fit. The question was was Cam going to go
Speaker 1: in for basically the minimum with some incentives. Was there
Speaker 1: any leverage that he had any other team's interested in him?
Speaker 1: And the Patriots if we were going to believe them
Speaker 1: true to their word that they were all in on
Speaker 1: Jared Stidham, Do you want to bring in Cam Newton
Speaker 1: who wants to be a starter. You have sustained success
Speaker 1: for two decades. That's unprecedented in the salary cap era,
Speaker 1: and it's taken a number of factors. There. You got
Speaker 1: a Hall of fame coach, you had a Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame quarterback. But they've also managed the cap better than
Speaker 1: just about any other team. And you make tough decisions.
Speaker 1: They have cut good players, they have traded good players.
Speaker 1: They always want to get rid of somebody a year
Speaker 1: early than a year late. They do find bargains as well.
Speaker 1: That's why just you know, this decision signed Cam Newton
Speaker 1: is not surprising. You get a former MVP and then
Speaker 1: granted twenty fifteen seems like a long time ago. The
Speaker 1: upside is huge. Downside basically nothing. I think a few
Speaker 1: teams probably woke up today and said, Patriots got Cam. Huh.
Speaker 1: It always feels like other teams zig and the Patriots zag.
Speaker 1: When the Patriots do something, that's when other teams go,
Speaker 1: what do they know? And then we realize a lot
Speaker 1: of times they know a little more than everybody else does.
Speaker 1: And the latest move should prove to be very interesting.
Speaker 1: If it works out, once again, we'll be heaping praise
Speaker 1: on the most impressive dynasty in modern sports. And even
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out and Cam doesn't play, or
Speaker 1: let's say he plays, doesn't play well, or he plays
Speaker 1: one year and then he decides to leave, you get
Speaker 1: a third round compensatory pick. But if he plays well,
Speaker 1: you're not paying you know, twenty million dollars for your quarterback.
Speaker 1: You got Stidham. You got to find out what you
Speaker 1: have in him. And maybe you do have a Jimmy
Speaker 1: Garoppolo type. Maybe he's a Matt Castle type. Maybe he's
Speaker 1: going to be a special quarterback. All I know is
Speaker 1: you got an old Auburn quarterback. And you got a
Speaker 1: new Auburn quarterback in there, And I was wondering the
Speaker 1: last time the Patriots and Bill Belichick started a quarterback
Speaker 1: that they didn't draft. Now, let's say Cam ends up
Speaker 1: starting for the Patriots at some point. Brady started three
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four Bledsoe twenty four, Matt Castle fifteen,
Speaker 1: Scott and Zolac four, Jacoby Brissette to Jimmy Garoppolo two.
Speaker 1: Bell check has been with the Patriots for three hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty one games. That's regular season, postseason. He's never
Speaker 1: started a quarterback who was not drafted by the Patriots,
Speaker 1: that would stay, Come on, come on, let's get let's
Speaker 1: get gone. Anybody awake back there? Pomp pomp this day? Wow,
Speaker 1: that past stat of the day. Stat of the day
Speaker 1: comes that? What stay? That was a big wind up
Speaker 1: in the pitch and I was waiting, Well, my computer's frozen,
Speaker 1: so sorry, you got any evidence. It's sitting right in
Speaker 1: front of me. Yeah, if you want it to come
Speaker 1: look at it. You could. You could see it. Paul,
Speaker 1: do you want to appear the scene was trying to
Speaker 1: do something a minute ago? Okay, I'm not I can't
Speaker 1: see that well out of my left eye trying to
Speaker 1: do something. I'm trying to do something. It's the left
Speaker 1: you're good eye, you're a bad one. My left eye
Speaker 1: is the dead eye. Well the dead eye. Yeah, yes, mclub.
Speaker 1: So what if Brian Hoyer wins the job in that
Speaker 1: quarterback he was it? He could, he might. That's against
Speaker 1: the grain. That's an early against the grain. What if
Speaker 1: cam Shoulder doesn't respond immediately he has to take a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks late. Hoyer could definitely be an out Stidham.
Speaker 1: That's not a huge okay, all right, then he was
Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent by the Patriots. Does that count
Speaker 1: in this stat? Yeah? Who cares? Anyway? Move on. I
Speaker 1: was actually giving it thought I'm going, you're right, who cares?
Speaker 1: And plus so I gave you the great stat and
Speaker 1: I couldn't even get stat of the Dame music so
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Speaker 1: gotta pull question for me. Okay, this is from PAULI.
Speaker 1: At the end of the season, Cam Newton will be
Speaker 1: one starting for the Patriots in the playoffs, two on
Speaker 1: the bench for the Patriots, slash injured, three not in
Speaker 1: the NFL, or four on another team meaning they traded
Speaker 1: him in say August or September. Tuffy. At the end
Speaker 1: of the season, Cam Newton will be starting, on the bench,
Speaker 1: slash injured, not in the NFL, on another team. I'll
Speaker 1: say he's on the Patriots. I'll say he's starting for
Speaker 1: the Patriots, starting on the Patriots whilst in the playoffs
Speaker 1: or not making the playoffs. Oh well, I'd like to
Speaker 1: see how the roster is going to look once they start,
Speaker 1: because Cam might get in there and go now I
Speaker 1: know why Tom left. Wait, who am I throwing too?
Speaker 1: And is Cam going to be? Like? What kind of
Speaker 1: quarterback is Cam going to be? Is he is he
Speaker 1: trying to be twenty fifteen Cam? Or does he understand
Speaker 1: the limitations he's going to have. He's never had a
Speaker 1: great quarterback rating, No, I think like in the mid eighties,
Speaker 1: never a great passer, like, I'm just curious how that
Speaker 1: offense is going to look, you know, because when he's
Speaker 1: in there, it'll be different than I think Jared Stidham.
Speaker 1: Although Stidham is a good athlete. I don't know if
Speaker 1: the offense, that offensive line was blocking because they had
Speaker 1: a guy who couldn't he had no mobility and he
Speaker 1: was going to get the ball away in less than
Speaker 1: three seconds. But I don't know with Cam and how
Speaker 1: that changes there. But yeah, I remember when people said, oh,
Speaker 1: they're the Patriots might be tanking. I'm going I don't
Speaker 1: think Belichick he's you know, evil minded, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I just didn't think they're gonna go We're gonna tank.
Speaker 1: You'd really have to tank if you were going to go,
Speaker 1: we're trying to get Trevor Lawrence. I just don't think
Speaker 1: that's who Belichick is. Let me tank strategically, it makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. They still have some marquee people
Speaker 1: on there. Yeah, mclovin, what if you argue the AFC
Speaker 1: East is better this year? Maybe the Bills, the Jets,
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins will give the Patriots a harder time,
Speaker 1: make it harder to make the playoffs. Well, I believe that,
Speaker 1: but it feels like, you know, is Buffalo going to
Speaker 1: be a ten win team or better this year and
Speaker 1: you're not going to have a thirteen win Patriot team
Speaker 1: or the Jets going to add one or two more wins.
Speaker 1: Miami was really good at the are very competitive at
Speaker 1: the end of the year. I don't know what kind
Speaker 1: of team they're going to be. If Ryan Fitzpatrick is
Speaker 1: going to be their quarterback, you know, they might be
Speaker 1: a seven win team, eight and eight if all goes well.
Speaker 1: But if TWA plays then it might be even more
Speaker 1: interesting there. But you know, the East feels like it's
Speaker 1: a little more competitive because Buffalo is good and you'd
Speaker 1: just got Stefan Diggs as well, and Josh Allen. You know,
Speaker 1: that maturation process. We're going to see if he takes
Speaker 1: that next step. You know, that's what we're waiting for
Speaker 1: when you get that quarterback he's a rookie and then
Speaker 1: you say, okay, you got to take that next step
Speaker 1: pretty soon. We're waiting for Sam Darnold. Josh Allen has
Speaker 1: shown signs of that. And then there are guys that
Speaker 1: once they get to that point where you're supposed to
Speaker 1: take the next step and then they don't take it.
Speaker 1: Then we sort of move on from those teams. Like
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, it felt like he was taking the next step,
Speaker 1: and now we're not quite sure Derek Carr's future there
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, it appears as if he's taking that next step.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen with Sam Darnold
Speaker 1: and does two A start for them right away? So
Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions there, But I understand what
Speaker 1: the Patriots are doing. I'm not surprised. I would probably
Speaker 1: take a cautionary approach to this of how Cam is
Speaker 1: going to look and be used in that system. But
Speaker 1: it didn't cost you anything, So why is this that
Speaker 1: you know? I don't think this is a negative in
Speaker 1: any way with the Patriots. Yeah, poem, I was wonder
Speaker 1: if the Patriots might go the complete opposite and do
Speaker 1: the old style Auburn early Cam offense where you run
Speaker 1: and pass him which made him an MVP candidate, and
Speaker 1: say like, look, we have nothing invested in this guy financially.
Speaker 1: If he gets injured, we're we're gonna move on and
Speaker 1: we're fine. But let's let's go with what he does
Speaker 1: great and see if we can win with that, because
Speaker 1: then you don't need great wide receivers. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: just don't know how healthy he's going to be. He
Speaker 1: looks good when he's working out, you know this grainy
Speaker 1: footage Zipruder film, But I don't know how healthy he's
Speaker 1: going to be and how reliable he's going to be
Speaker 1: because you know, foot and shoulder for a quarterback, a
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback, those are issues to be concerned about. If
Speaker 1: I told you in August, Andrew Luck would retire, Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown would be out of football, Lamar Jackson was going
Speaker 1: to win the MVP. Lop Rivers would go to the Colts,
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater would join the Panthers. Joe Burrow would be
Speaker 1: the number one pick in the draft. Tom Brady would
Speaker 1: be a buccaneer. Cam Newton would join the Patriots. That's
Speaker 1: why the best reality show on TV is the NFL.
Speaker 1: That is ten months worth of storylines, headlines, and we
Speaker 1: left out probably ten other things when you think about it. Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, the Patriots got in trouble with the NFL.
Speaker 1: So they get in trouble by the NFL because they
Speaker 1: were filming somebody doing something. I can't keep track, and
Speaker 1: it was so then they signed Cam Newton, so that
Speaker 1: leaks an hour later about they got in trouble with
Speaker 1: the NFL. Hey we signed Cam Newton and oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, we got we got spanked for a million
Speaker 1: dollars and they took away a draft pick. But don't
Speaker 1: look over here looking. Well we did, we got Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: I went, well done. Well, you're right, Seaton. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna applaud with you. Well done, well done. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: It's like the Patriots. They signed Cam Newton, and then
Speaker 1: Belichick and the guys go, let's go down to the
Speaker 1: closet of skeletons and see what got down here. Let's
Speaker 1: let them out. Hold on, we got now there's gonna
Speaker 1: did that already with the thing down in Florida. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what else do we got in? Oh, we got that thing.
Speaker 1: We in trouble with? Anything else here the skeletons, Oh,
Speaker 1: don't let that when that one's too big big, how
Speaker 1: about we just let one? Uh? Yeah. The filming the
Speaker 1: advanced scout, Remember when he was in the Bengals game
Speaker 1: and we filmed the advanced scout. That's yeah, because we're
Speaker 1: doing a documentary or behind the scenes on the Advanced Scout. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that'll do it. That's so good. But you walk in there,
Speaker 1: you probably walk into the catacombs there in New England
Speaker 1: and you're looking and you know, like Belichick will be
Speaker 1: rubbing things off to the dust off there. Uh Aaron Hernandez,
Speaker 1: there's got that. So we got that issue, we got spinegate,
Speaker 1: got Tom's doctor, we got his phone, mister Kraft's troubles.
Speaker 1: What have we got here? And then you got the
Speaker 1: librarian down there and go, uh hey, Deflata, what do
Speaker 1: you got for me? They're like, hey, let's link the
Speaker 1: thing about the tape. They're like okay, and then they
Speaker 1: link the craft tape. Got the wrong tape. Damn it,
Speaker 1: that's at the tape. Bam, we're better than that. Let's
Speaker 1: leak the thing about the tape. Okay, got a librarian
Speaker 1: down there. Do we decimal system there? With all the
Speaker 1: infractions that the Patriots are guilty of? Yes, McLevin. Why
Speaker 1: were they taping the one in thirteen Bengals? No, No,
Speaker 1: it's this was just they were doing something on the
Speaker 1: Advanced Scouter or something like that. Misunderstanding. Yes, did they
Speaker 1: really need to break a rule like that? Should be
Speaker 1: their argument. Why would we need to break a rule
Speaker 1: to beat the Bengals or like didn't have a win
Speaker 1: that that that that should be the violation that they
Speaker 1: they're piling on the Bengals that you know you didn't
Speaker 1: need to do that. Yeah, I hate that they fired
Speaker 1: that guy immediately too. That was that felt wrong? The
Speaker 1: the guy who videotaped. Yeah, so he can't be penalized
Speaker 1: because he got fired. But what about by way, I
Speaker 1: don't reely breath this up as I know it, said,
Speaker 1: then jumped off the top rope on Friday on the
Speaker 1: Patriots out of nowhere. Well, I started asking him about
Speaker 1: what's going on with the Patriots. He was doing the
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, the backstory on the decision with Lebron James,
Speaker 1: and he said, you know, you really were covering the
Speaker 1: Patriots during Spygate and deflate Gate, and you know, if
Speaker 1: you could get one question answered, And then he was like,
Speaker 1: I'd like to know how many what was it how
Speaker 1: many tapes they destroyed of with spygate? It had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with Brady and defleet gate, he was saying,
Speaker 1: didn't he say they had like thirty tapes? Forty tapes
Speaker 1: that they just royd that the commissioner destroyed. I was like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, here, that's your backstory. I don't care
Speaker 1: about the decision. I'd like to know thirty or forty
Speaker 1: tapes that were destroyed here. It is a good story.
Speaker 1: I wonder if all the tastes are at that last
Speaker 1: Blockbuster in Bend, Organ, you know, they just put them
Speaker 1: up there. That's the only place when Blockbuster left. Go
Speaker 1: in there and it says, you know, Jets twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: and that's all it says on there. It's like a
Speaker 1: pro a round. Come yes. It is the dumbest violation,
Speaker 1: by the way, spying on the sideline, not a game
Speaker 1: that's on TV that everybody go wats eddie. Why do
Speaker 1: they have a rule then? But it's so mild and
Speaker 1: why did they do it? I don't know, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: what I want to know. Why did you do it?
Speaker 1: If you can get all this information, you don't have
Speaker 1: to spy on anybody. They're filming like the signs or something.
Speaker 1: I don't even know, Like is it that hard to see?
Speaker 1: Can't you see them? Unless they're saying, you know, we
Speaker 1: want to break this down in slow motion of what
Speaker 1: they're doing with the science they send in. The thing
Speaker 1: that makes it the most stupid is that you're allowed
Speaker 1: to videotape the sidelines from one area, but you're not
Speaker 1: allowed to tape it from another area. That is where
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, this is just the dumbest thing about
Speaker 1: The only thing dumber is deflating footballs in the perfect
Speaker 1: temperature law or whatever that was ideal gas law. Andrew,
Speaker 1: that was three years. The fact that Belichick had to
Speaker 1: get out there and try to validate it's got like
Speaker 1: a little board. Maybe you can see here the two
Speaker 1: levels drop. But it reminded me of the you know,
Speaker 1: the kid who has the science project and nobody understands
Speaker 1: what the science project is, but he just mumbling up
Speaker 1: there and then you go, wow, that was a great
Speaker 1: science project, youngster. Yeah, Todd. He should have been commended
Speaker 1: the guy that did that at the Bengals bround because
Speaker 1: the feature it's called do your job and the Patriots
Speaker 1: get job. So he's just doing what do you have
Speaker 1: grounds to get your job back? Because I was just
Speaker 1: doing my job. I was doing it too well. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll take a break. Tom Curran, he knows all about
Speaker 1: the Patriots. He'll join us and get his thoughts on
Speaker 1: Cam Newton going there. Keith Oberman will be joining us.
Speaker 1: Next down. Keith gives the percentage of a World Series
Speaker 1: being played this year at zero point zero zero. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: great point average all courses incompletely zero percent chance of
Speaker 1: the World Series happening. Daniel Simpson day zero point zero,
Speaker 1: phone calls coming up, settle on a pull question, stat
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Speaker 1: NFL is a little salty at Tom Brady and Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson Junior the third for having these public workouts. Denny
Speaker 1: Hamlin wins at Pocono, Dustin Johnson wins the Travelers. As
Speaker 1: some of the headlines there, as we always do every Monday,
Speaker 1: best and worst of the weekend. We'll get to your
Speaker 1: phone calls coming up. Patriots are the gift that keeps
Speaker 1: on giving. They're always interesting. Tom E. Currn, the Patriots
Speaker 1: insider friend BC Sports Boston joining us. When did you
Speaker 1: get word that Cam Newton was now a New England Patriot?
Speaker 1: Tom Dan Right after I climbed off by jet ski
Speaker 1: It's to nineteen ninety seven Kawasaki, and I just was
Speaker 1: telling Fritzie I took it for a run because we
Speaker 1: had an indicator idea and I came in and my
Speaker 1: boss says, you're going to write on Cam Newton. I
Speaker 1: said no, so I'm on vacation. But yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a surprise because as much as guys like Mike Lombardi
Speaker 1: and folks like that said keep an eye on Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: I had been told in April that I am safe
Speaker 1: to continue along the lines of this isn't going to happen.
Speaker 1: But I think the price dropped enough to where both
Speaker 1: sides said, what do we got to lose? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think Cam had any leverage, but I was wondering
Speaker 1: how much they liked him maybe in April, and how
Speaker 1: much they love him here at the end of June,
Speaker 1: I think they love him at one point zero five
Speaker 1: million within sentence, That to me has to be the
Speaker 1: absolute tumble that needed to fall into place. They are
Speaker 1: so tight against the cap that there was no other
Speaker 1: way that they could pull this off to end. So
Speaker 1: if Cam Newton was seeking to be and that number
Speaker 1: seven point five million that he is able to hit
Speaker 1: if he hits his incentives is interesting because that's what
Speaker 1: Marcus mary Da will make with the La Raiders Las Vegas,
Speaker 1: whether the hell they are, that's what he's gonna make
Speaker 1: with the Raiders. So they had to get up to
Speaker 1: that level with Cam. The question is is he fifteen Cam?
Speaker 1: Is he eighteen Cam? Or is he the one who
Speaker 1: either sucked in sixteen or was hurt in seventeen and
Speaker 1: eighteen and nineteen. But if I was going to look
Speaker 1: at Cam Newton this year and I said, he'll be
Speaker 1: starting for the Patriots in the playoffs, he'll be on
Speaker 1: the bench with the Patriots, he won't be in the NFL,
Speaker 1: or he'll be on another team. What would you pick? Boy?
Speaker 1: You know you love doing these things. You don't give
Speaker 1: me any preparation time he'll be playing for the Patriots.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Patriots are going to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: But again, these are percentage wise guesses. I would say
Speaker 1: that's the most likely scenario, whether he's starting or not.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fascinating to watch this playout. Dan. One
Speaker 1: thing that's fascinating to me about this, though, is the timing.
Speaker 1: Nobody knows news cycles like the New England Patriots. The
Speaker 1: Patriots did not have control of the announcement of the
Speaker 1: penalty that was going to come out. They did have
Speaker 1: control of when they could leak out the signing of
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. Did they signed Newton because they loved them?
Speaker 1: Did they sign Newton because they always planned to? Did
Speaker 1: they signed Newton because they said, you know what, let's
Speaker 1: do a little bit of wag the dog action here
Speaker 1: and get ahead of this so that they have to
Speaker 1: digest Cam Newton and not all the things I've done
Speaker 1: in the past. I'm right there with you because it's
Speaker 1: New England and the timing of this with Cam Newton
Speaker 1: Sunday night. But twenty eight, that offense has really it
Speaker 1: felt like they become more of a running team. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if Cam, like if you said, if
Speaker 1: Stidham's in there, the offense is this if Cam is
Speaker 1: in there there the offense is this. How much of
Speaker 1: a seismic shift is that going to be? I don't
Speaker 1: think it'll be that seismic. I think that they're already
Speaker 1: planning to alter the offense to make it more dynamic,
Speaker 1: more mobile, to challenge on the edges of the defense
Speaker 1: at the end of the line of scrimmage. More put
Speaker 1: those outside landbackers defensive ends and choose situations make people
Speaker 1: suck up and have to defend the run. You know,
Speaker 1: with Brady you couldn't do those things. He could do
Speaker 1: a million things that nobody else can. Cam Newton, Jaredston
Speaker 1: and Brian who are included. But I think the dynamic
Speaker 1: aspect of the offense is an important one that they've
Speaker 1: missed out on been replaced by something pretty good. But
Speaker 1: they need to start getting toward that trend, and I
Speaker 1: think they're looking forward to it and are starting to
Speaker 1: alter their offense in this offseason to do it. By
Speaker 1: the way, back to the violation, the oh, by the
Speaker 1: way violation, that's a million dollars and a third round
Speaker 1: draft pick. Now, the story that they were filming this
Speaker 1: is a part of was the do your job, Yes,
Speaker 1: So was the person doing his job and he got
Speaker 1: fired for it. Yeah. The job that wasn't properly done
Speaker 1: was looping in the Cincinnati Bengals. See, they were at
Speaker 1: the Browns Stadium. They called the Browns and said, we're
Speaker 1: sending a news reporter or we're sending a reporter and
Speaker 1: a cameraman. We're going to get some b roll footage
Speaker 1: of the scout on the sidelines. That cool with you, Cleveland,
Speaker 1: Yes it is. Well, they're sitting there in Cincinnati. It's like,
Speaker 1: those are the Patriots and they're filming our sideline right
Speaker 1: in front of us, and the guy's basically smoking a
Speaker 1: cigarette and watching us. What are we supposed to do here?
Speaker 1: So that's where it went downhill. So the job not
Speaker 1: done was in them not dotting their eyes, crossing their
Speaker 1: tees and thinking that brandishing a video recorder if you're
Speaker 1: wearing a Patriots shirt is a good idea. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you wouldn't think they would be doing something wrong if
Speaker 1: you're wearing a Patriot shirt, like, nobody would be that
Speaker 1: obvious is trying to do something right. But I think
Speaker 1: that over the fifteen years, the human cry about the
Speaker 1: Patriots has dropped the bar of expectations so low that
Speaker 1: people think the Patriots are capable of absolutely anything. So
Speaker 1: what better cover to use than to be up and
Speaker 1: play inside talking to Tom Kerr and the Patriots Insider
Speaker 1: any correspondence with TV twelve down in Tampa, I can
Speaker 1: just tell you this, he is again loaded for bear
Speaker 1: to prove a lot of people wrong. I think that
Speaker 1: he senses that people are circumspect about his chances. Definitely
Speaker 1: that they don't think the Rob Gronkowski will be Rob Gronkowski.
Speaker 1: And it's the same fuel for the fire that we
Speaker 1: especially saw all through his career. But you know, in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen when they made the Super Bowl run, what
Speaker 1: do you think of that? I don't even know if
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to this though, but you gotta tell
Speaker 1: what's your take on the workouts? I got no issue
Speaker 1: with it. Well, I was an optic thing, yes exactly.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. If the NFL has a problem,
Speaker 1: then find the team or do I mean do something?
Speaker 1: If then let the team, let it be a team
Speaker 1: matter here of what they want to do state by state.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. It doesn't look good. It doesn't
Speaker 1: look it doesn't it doesn't But I mean that is
Speaker 1: the look. It doesn't look good. Yeah, And it wouldn't
Speaker 1: look good if Alan Stills, the NFL's medical director, who's
Speaker 1: a neurologist and does a great job in that arena,
Speaker 1: doesn't say something about we'd rather not see you do
Speaker 1: that same thing with the NFLPA. If they don't say
Speaker 1: anything at all, and we have a pandemic sweeping the
Speaker 1: nation and tree aging beds and vent the lad's ppees
Speaker 1: and everything else running out, well, then it doesn't look great.
Speaker 1: But when we really think of the practical aspects of
Speaker 1: it and what we know about this and the guys
Speaker 1: outside thirty yards from the people we throw on the
Speaker 1: ball too, and we know all these things to be true.
Speaker 1: I just don't understand why we got our panties punched
Speaker 1: about it. If I said to a Belichick and I
Speaker 1: got a true answer, would you rather have Cam Newton
Speaker 1: or Tom Brady? If you could get Tom Brady for
Speaker 1: one point zero five million, No, you got you gotta
Speaker 1: take Brady and his salary, and you get Cam in
Speaker 1: his salary. He'll take Cam here. I mean, look, it's
Speaker 1: that guy who loves a bargain. They are spending the
Speaker 1: in between the four quarterbacks Brian Lawerikee, Jamar Smith's Stidhaman Hoyer.
Speaker 1: It's like three point two five million there are and
Speaker 1: I counted up thirty quarterbacks in the NFL who are
Speaker 1: making three million or more this year. So they are
Speaker 1: spending nothing on that position. And that's a great spot
Speaker 1: for Bill to be in. It's especially a great spot
Speaker 1: when they head into twenty twenty one if the salary
Speaker 1: cap number drops down because the Patriots don't have a
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes or a Dak Prescott, etc. Pet what's it
Speaker 1: like though, when you get a text back? You know,
Speaker 1: when you're in love and then you're waiting for that
Speaker 1: person to send you a text back, and then Brady
Speaker 1: send you a text back and then do you a
Speaker 1: giggle or something? Yeah? Yeah, Do you do like our emoji's?
Speaker 1: Because I'm big on emojis, less words to write. I'm
Speaker 1: just I never thought of myself as an exclamation point guy,
Speaker 1: but I'm a bigger exclamation point guy because a period
Speaker 1: just doesn't look enthusiastic enough some day, Yeah thanks. You
Speaker 1: can't just say thanks. Yeah. Fritzie knows that you can't
Speaker 1: just say my wife, we have this conversation all the time.
Speaker 1: I'll tell what I'm doing something and she'll send back
Speaker 1: t ks like what are you sap pissed about nothing?
Speaker 1: I just said thanks. She put the wrong guy. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's great to talk to you. Enjoy your vacation. Enjoy
Speaker 1: your vacation, happy, independent state of you and the fellas.
Speaker 1: Thank you. That's Tom E. Curran. He is for effort.
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Speaker 1: poll question there, mclovin, Not exactly. Basically, we were talking
Speaker 1: about where Cam Newton is at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: How about we put up will the Patriots make the playoffs?
Speaker 1: Based on what Tom Curran said. I was gonna say
Speaker 1: who is the favorite, the Mills or the Patriots. But
Speaker 1: I guess it's the same question as will the Patriots
Speaker 1: make a post? If you want to throw it up there,
Speaker 1: you can, I guess. Yeah, all right, yeah, Paul, if
Speaker 1: you could have any super Bowl next year, and I said,
Speaker 1: it's you could have Cam Newton versus Tom Braden the
Speaker 1: super Bowl or anyone you choose. You could pick anyone else, Dan,
Speaker 1: you're programming for whatever network has a super Bowl next year,
Speaker 1: So Cowboys, I'll start with this, you can I will
Speaker 1: take Patriots versus Tampa with Cam Newton and Tom Brady
Speaker 1: bowls starting. Okay, what would be the next pick on
Speaker 1: the list? Or a better pick? Better pick um? I
Speaker 1: might have to take a break and think about that,
Speaker 1: because that's really good. Though. I would want Dallas in there,
Speaker 1: because you always want Dallas in there. Yeah, but the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl ratings are a little bit of a different animal,
Speaker 1: like you want to get like the European crowd and
Speaker 1: the you know, the non football fans. Well, Dallas is worldwide. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Dallas would challenge Tom Brady in the Bucks.
Speaker 1: It's an interesting that'd be an interesting poll too, and
Speaker 1: obviously Mahomes if I did man, it might be Dallas
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. But there's no real storyline there that
Speaker 1: you go, boy, that that's ironic, or that that's gonna
Speaker 1: be really dramatic, or those two teams or those two
Speaker 1: players they don't like each other. Kansas City and Dallas
Speaker 1: would just be the great. It would be a great
Speaker 1: marquee matchup, best player in the league, most popular franchise
Speaker 1: in the league. Yes, MC, how about Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 1: all the back and forth we've had about kind of
Speaker 1: a redemption story with a matter who is he playing against,
Speaker 1: like Mahomes maybe or Cam Newton? Yeah maybe, I mean
Speaker 1: Brady against the Patriots, no matter whose quarterbacking would be great?
Speaker 1: Who has a better chance of getting to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Buccaneers Patriots? Feel it feels like it's Buccaneers heavy Buccaneers, right,
Speaker 1: But you start to look at the Patriots, you know
Speaker 1: their scale of stories, wild stories. I Cam is just
Speaker 1: a blip here. I mean you start with your Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl tight end killing people. I mean that that's the ten.
Speaker 1: If it's one to ten, like Cam might be a
Speaker 1: one on this scale. The owner busted in sex trafficking ring.
Speaker 1: It's that a Normally that'd be a ten. Not with
Speaker 1: the Patriots, it's like a nine eight filming the Bengals sidelines?
Speaker 1: Is that is that a one? Spygate? Where's deflate gate
Speaker 1: on here? That's that's the six because the length of
Speaker 1: solid six, Yeah, solid six. Gronk taking a picture with
Speaker 1: a porn star, that's not even doesn't even make the list.
Speaker 1: Like teams have to look at the Patriots and go
Speaker 1: and we got nothing going on off the field. Yeah, seed, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the Gronk thing, that's just like being a
Speaker 1: professional athlete. It seems like, yeah, Garoppolo dated, that's called
Speaker 1: Friday Night as an athlete. Yeah, mclo I think you
Speaker 1: could put the nineties Cowboys up against them for drama,
Speaker 1: though there just wasn't social media and media like this
Speaker 1: at the time. It's shorter window. But we don't know
Speaker 1: everything that happened with the Cowboys and the white House
Speaker 1: that they had where the players would congregate. I mean,
Speaker 1: we know Michael Irvin and even then, I don't think
Speaker 1: I know everything about Michael Irvin, and that's probably a
Speaker 1: good thing. Yeah, the club, Yeah, Nate knew and I
Speaker 1: mean they had so many drug relate I mean Nate
Speaker 1: was trafficking how many pounds of pot? You know, nothing
Speaker 1: trouble wise. But yet Dion's personality there, oh that's nothing.
Speaker 1: I mean didn't get in trouble, no, no, but he
Speaker 1: draw a lot of attention. I mean it was fun
Speaker 1: to see and fascinate it. Well, I would look at
Speaker 1: Dion's personality. Never Gronk. Oh, we were so concerned about
Speaker 1: Gronk because he would do keg stands and have his
Speaker 1: shirt off and I mean he'd just act like a
Speaker 1: frat boy. It was nothing. Meanwhile, the other side of
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, you got a guy who's going
Speaker 1: out killing people like okay man that I worry about Dronk.
Speaker 1: I love that. Aaron Hernandez, you know, out of Bristol, Connecticut,
Speaker 1: what a great story. Just signed a new contract and
Speaker 1: then we didn't know when you know he heard the
Speaker 1: word contracted. He probably put out contracts on people. Yea,
Speaker 1: we can't put Aaron Hernandez on this list. I feel like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is this was just a topic. We're not gonna
Speaker 1: this is an official well Fois is here. I just
Speaker 1: feel like he doesn't even fit with that either. If
Speaker 1: you're comparing the nineties Cowboys and Patriots legacies. I guess
Speaker 1: that's kind of the point of the list. The Patriots
Speaker 1: have dealt with everything, every aspect of their franchise. Someone's
Speaker 1: been in something. Their their quarterback is not just interesting,
Speaker 1: he's married to one of the most famous women on earth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just throw that in there. We didn't even mention that. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: there does seem to be a few scandals that are
Speaker 1: sort of out liars, right, Like the Aaron Hernandez thing
Speaker 1: is so extreme Joy Michael Vick. That was so extreme
Speaker 1: that you're like, whoa, I can't believe this is a
Speaker 1: real thing. So to put that in the same list
Speaker 1: as like, oh yeah, they were also taping the sidelines again,
Speaker 1: you're like, but even deflate Gate, it is a big deal,
Speaker 1: a big deal because it involved Tom Brady and that
Speaker 1: he didn't tell the truth and he got suspended for
Speaker 1: four games like that, But it doesn't compare to some
Speaker 1: of this other stuff. If you start with Aaron Hernandez
Speaker 1: and then Robert Kraft, be hard to fill up that list,
Speaker 1: you know, with anything that comes close to that, like
Speaker 1: filming the Bengals sidelines would be a one. Deflate gate
Speaker 1: is six A multime murderer in Aaron Hernandez and your
Speaker 1: owner gets busted in a sex traffic ring before a
Speaker 1: playoff game with Kansas City or a show Playmakers, Danny,
Speaker 1: they didn't have anything on their show that touched these
Speaker 1: I know, and I remember, well, I got in trouble
Speaker 1: when I was at ESPN because you know, we pulled
Speaker 1: the plug on Playmakers. At ESPN. The NFL said you
Speaker 1: got to pull the plug on this, and I remember
Speaker 1: criticizing ESPN saying, this is all fictional, right, and you're
Speaker 1: thinking these storylines, nobody can come close to these storylines.
Speaker 1: I imagine if you did Playmakers now and you had
Speaker 1: these storylines because they're real. Back then it was fictional.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a break. We got our play
Speaker 1: of the day. Let's see what else do we have.
Speaker 1: We'll settle on a poll question. Keith Oberman will join
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Speaker 1: Ted and Tampa leads us off best and Worst till
Speaker 1: the weekend? Hi, Ted, how are you? Oh? Great day?
Speaker 1: He got a great, great show this morning? Hey, Best
Speaker 1: and worst the weekend? Over the weekend best they were
Speaker 1: showing replays of the Lakers Celtics games and they left
Speaker 1: in the original commercials. One of the commercials was Bob
Speaker 1: Euger in the Baseball Gamemember. He's trying to get down
Speaker 1: into better seats than as and they offer him out.
Speaker 1: That had to be the basis for Fritzie's Section Row
Speaker 1: Seats and the Worst of the Weekend. Unfortunately, yesterday in
Speaker 1: Today's anniversary when the United States Navy Seals and the
Speaker 1: Task Force one sixty Blackhawk crew members were killed in
Speaker 1: Operation Red Wings, the one they made the movie Loan
Speaker 1: Survivor about. All right, Well, thank you, Ted, appreciate your
Speaker 1: phone call. By the way, new T shirt. Uh, we're
Speaker 1: work shopping this. I don't know if we're going to
Speaker 1: get in trouble, but what's our motto. We would rather
Speaker 1: beg for forgiveness thanision. That's pretty much it. So we
Speaker 1: learned that with the Tampa Bay t shirts. Cam going
Speaker 1: to New England. We've already come up with Cam Chowder
Speaker 1: gold gold, Yeah, and were The reason why there's a
Speaker 1: little bit of sensitivity is we have some Campbell's soup
Speaker 1: cans kind of like Andy Warhole. I mean he painted
Speaker 1: the Campbell soup cans. I don't know if he got suit.
Speaker 1: I mean we're both artists here. I like that we're
Speaker 1: entering our Warhall phase. I really like that, sort of
Speaker 1: like a different period of our artwork. Well, I got
Speaker 1: out of Van Go now I'm into Warhol here because
Speaker 1: I was told to go and stick it. Whether Sunda's
Speaker 1: shine by Tom Brady's lawyers, Um, okay, cease and desist.
Speaker 1: Cam doesn't seem letitious Cam Chowder, that's gold Cam Chowder.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna work. I think that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a big seller there, all right, So we we got
Speaker 1: to get that in production here, Cam Chowder. Todd did
Speaker 1: have one, and uh, explain your Cam Newton one. I
Speaker 1: just played off the last named Newton and had any
Speaker 1: for new England, Cam Newton with capril N, capitl E
Speaker 1: and then lowercase letters. Very simple. Yeah, but you didn't
Speaker 1: have a mock up. You just had the letter. Did
Speaker 1: not have a mock up. And also, to add to
Speaker 1: that great idea about the cam chowder, I think sooner
Speaker 1: than later we need to get with whoever handles the
Speaker 1: food at Gillette Stadium and get on get on that
Speaker 1: or get that copyright or whatever we need to do
Speaker 1: with legal zoom, because that's something that you know they're
Speaker 1: gonna be selling if they're smart. Cam chowder it's in
Speaker 1: foxbur Don and Idaho joins us Hi don Hi Hi.
Speaker 1: I have a tidbit about the spy gates h So,
Speaker 1: the coaching staff had they signed a non disclosure agreement
Speaker 1: with the Patriots, and one of the coaches retired because
Speaker 1: he was so disgusted that Goodell would let the Patriots
Speaker 1: Robert kraft Um allowed us so. And then if you
Speaker 1: watch the Staban and Oh Belichick real documentary, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: have to wonder how they knew how to practice them
Speaker 1: the last play of the Super Bowl when they how
Speaker 1: would they know that unless they actually maybe videotape the
Speaker 1: Seahawks practice unit as maybe a last you know, the
Speaker 1: efforts win. All right, Well, thank you, don It's a
Speaker 1: little early in the week for conspiracy theories for me.
Speaker 1: But the fact that they practiced the play Malcolm Butler interception,
Speaker 1: and they did that on Wednesday the Super Bowl, unless
Speaker 1: they saw it on Tuesday of Super Bowl week, when
Speaker 1: if they were spying on them. Belichick said, if they
Speaker 1: run this play, when they run this play, because he
Speaker 1: gave up a touchdown in practice and he said, you
Speaker 1: must get from point A to point B and be
Speaker 1: there when the ball gets there. And Malcolm Butler not
Speaker 1: only got there but made the interception. I'm going to
Speaker 1: give that to just great coaching. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: have a conspiracy theory. That's just great coaching there on
Speaker 1: the Patriots part and a great play by Malcolm Butler.
Speaker 1: Keith Oberman says the World Series has a zero percent
Speaker 1: chance of being played