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Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be

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Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Patriots Unfiltered. I was born two weeks late. I was

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Speaker 1: supposed to be born Christmas Day. Not surprised at all

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Speaker 1: that Eric believes he was supposed to be that I

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Speaker 1: was about to and I didn't. I showed restraint. Ok,

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Speaker 1: you're a bigger man than me. What do you want

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Speaker 1: to tell? You know, he's not who is going to

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Speaker 1: take over the hosting role When Fred had to be

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Speaker 1: out for something, I had to find somebody with less

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Speaker 1: sense of humor than Eric. Oh, oh my god, Melvin

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Speaker 1: and I had food. Eric grasp to see if I

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Speaker 1: can do like Andy Hart and call in and have

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Speaker 1: not recognized Yeah, you knew how to do. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: his last shot. They're able to make some explosive plays

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Speaker 1: on you know. As much as everybody wants a deep

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, okay, I guess we'll talk

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Speaker 1: football through. Sorry, this is Patriots Unfiltered fueled by dunking,

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Speaker 1: all right, Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 1: at Gillette Stadium, and we'll be talking Patriots for the

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Speaker 1: next two hours. It's Deuce, It's Tamara, It's Paul, it's Fred.

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Speaker 1: No more Eric. We said goodbye to Eric last week,

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Speaker 1: so this is the post Eric era. So it begins. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a s after skeal tomorrow, you are ready to fill

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Speaker 1: those shoes. I want to wear different shoes. Wow. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Even though Eric was firmly a vegan, he did wear

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Speaker 1: leather shoes. So wow, I haven't thought that about him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I called him on that. But anyway, as you were

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Speaker 1: once wearing different shoes, Tom mats in the booth. So

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Speaker 1: what have we got OTAs yesterday? And we had access?

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Speaker 1: Sure did side of the side of the hill. Here

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Speaker 1: we go, everybody. I mean, I first build press conference

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Speaker 1: since pre COVID, so that was interesting. Of course, twelve

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Speaker 1: of the questions were all about the offensive coordinator and

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Speaker 1: who's calm plays. We'll talk about that. We got out

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Speaker 1: there though, and uh yeah, you know, I think good

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Speaker 1: we can get into that as well. But that was

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Speaker 1: just fun to watch a little little bit football, a

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Speaker 1: little bit thrown it around. Not nothing too serious, although

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Speaker 1: you might read some things that make you think it

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Speaker 1: was very serious. Don't get me started to do, get

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Speaker 1: you started right. Enjoyed a nice afternoon Elton the sun yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It was very nice weather yesterday to start that off,

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Speaker 1: couldn't have been better. Perfect. Wish everyone could have seen

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Speaker 1: Mike and his chair. He was pre I was, I

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Speaker 1: have one of those little uld a little full, but

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Speaker 1: then it doesn't have the legs. It's just kind of

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Speaker 1: like one of those l being kind of ones. But

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Speaker 1: But he did. But but who's hurting at the GARDI

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Speaker 1: he puts out a beach towel. He's got the beach towel,

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Speaker 1: he's got the sunset. He had me putting it on

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Speaker 1: his back. I was like, this is too much, Mike.

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Speaker 1: I was so excited to get out there. I forgot

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Speaker 1: is roasted right now, so I can't get it together.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I had a poor start to OTAs,

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Speaker 1: but I'll pick it up next week. Um, you know

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Speaker 1: teaching at this point. There's not a lot of evaluation

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Speaker 1: the way guys look like Paul you mentioned DeVante Park

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Speaker 1: That that's a big topic your conversation yesterday, including Tamara

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Speaker 1: But first of all, who cares what the how the

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Speaker 1: play calling unfolds in the preseason when the other team's

424
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Speaker 1: not game planning. No, I'm just talking about in terms

425
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Speaker 1: of practice and getting in the flow and getting Mac

426
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Speaker 1: Jones getting used to hearing this guy's voice in his year.

427
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Speaker 1: I think it's important. Yep. Yeah, I mean I would

428
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Speaker 1: just say I don't based on yesterday, I don't think

429
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Speaker 1: Nick Kyley is in the mix. I mean Achille is

430
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Speaker 1: the tight ends coach. He wasn't really in that mix.

431
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Speaker 1: I mean, and will you know say that, Oh, Belichick

432
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: was around the offense more and oh I think Matt

433
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 1: Patricia might have called some plays here, but it's Joe Judge,

434
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 1: like he's the one following Mac around and you know,

435
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 1: whispering in his ear the whole time. I mean, that's

436
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 1: that's who it's going to be. So I guess, I

437
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 1: guess we we wait and see see. You know what

438
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking, And I agree with everything Mike

439
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: just said, because we I don't know, if you know what,

440
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 1: we talk about this stuff before the show. Yeah, to Marry,

441
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 1: you're coming upstairs with us now so you can be

442
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,360
Speaker 1: part of our little a little convosum. The one thing

443
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 1: is yesterday, clearly, Mike, it was Joe Judge doing the

444
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: majority of talking with Mac Jones. Bill was all offense,

445
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 1: and he talked to Mac Jones especially late in practice.

446
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: I thought there might have been some relaying of plays

447
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 1: from Bill to Mac Jones. Matt Patricia was outside and

448
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 1: Nick Cayley was outside. I have no I will have

449
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: no surprise whatsoever if on Tuesday the thirty first, when

450
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Speaker 1: we're out there again, it's Matt Patricia like much more

451
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: involved because they don't want us to know what's going.

452
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: We need to let people know because not everyone understands,

453
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, everything that goes on. We have access yesterday

454
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Speaker 1: and we'll have access next Tuesday. But there's a whole

455
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Speaker 1: bunch of practices in between that we have no idea

456
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: what's going on, you know, So we can only report

457
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: on what we see once a week, and then we'll

458
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Speaker 1: have mini camp June seventh day, the nine that we'll

459
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Speaker 1: be out there for all three days. But there's a

460
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Speaker 1: bunch of stuff that happens when we're not there. Yeah, yeah,

461
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I mean that's why I try not

462
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: to bang the drum too hard on interesting personnel stuff,

463
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: Like you know, was Butler and Mitchell kind of the

464
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Speaker 1: starting outside corners and Mitchell and Mills was with the

465
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Speaker 1: second group coming. Yeah, but I don't you know, I

466
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 1: don't want to think that sound like, oh Mills is

467
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Speaker 1: out and these guys, you know, I think that they

468
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: like to put some new guys with the top groups

469
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: see how they react. But you know, I mean I

470
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Speaker 1: think one other thing to comment is like I think

471
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Speaker 1: Wilson and Ray Kua McMillan are much more should be

472
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: much more on people's radars than Josh Uch and Cameron mcgron,

473
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: Like I think those Patriot guys that you know, j mcgron,

474
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Speaker 1: like we'll see. Mcgron's still kind of working his way back.

475
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: But you know, it's not like, oh ouch, seems like

476
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: he's embedded in the top group. I mean, he's in

477
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: the mix. But I think McMillan and Wilson are guys

478
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: that are probably in line to play bigger roles in

479
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: the awful linebacker role. I'm my early hopeful guy that

480
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Speaker 1: emerges this year as mcgron. Yeah, so talk to him yesterday. Yeah,

481
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Speaker 1: I wrote a little bit around on this morning. He

482
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Speaker 1: I mean asked him how was the week he came back.

483
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: He was, you know, back for two weeks when he

484
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Speaker 1: was briefly out of the pup window or however it was,

485
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 1: and then he reverted. But you know, just a great

486
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Speaker 1: chance to put some stuff to work. And um, you know,

487
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: commented on a speed he looks small to me. I

488
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Speaker 1: mean that was my comment to Paul hit him and McMillan.

489
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: I'm like, they're not okay. I wanted to take in

490
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Speaker 1: the draft with small guys. I like that I just

491
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Speaker 1: don't know if they can run. Yeah, well that they're

492
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Speaker 1: small and and forget it. Yeah, I like the fact

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Speaker 1: that they're small. And I said that to Mike on

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00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: the field yesterday when we were looking at because he

495
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: Mike is right like, you're looking and you're like, just

496
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 1: because you're thinking of Dante High Tower, some side tower.

497
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: You know, there's enormous specimen of a man, and that's

498
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: not what these guys are. Was there any news about

499
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: High Tower yesterday? Because somebody who used to work here

500
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: texted me and said, high Tower done? And he's still deciding. Fred,

501
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it could go either way. We don't know

502
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Speaker 1: for sure. You're a bad person because you have a

503
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Speaker 1: smile on your face when you do it, and you're

504
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: trying to get me in trouble. Well, I mean, you

505
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: know people are reporting that that he's still deciding. So

506
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's tough because I don't want to

507
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: like write him out because I still I could still

508
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: see them bringing him back just for you know, comes

509
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: in in camp and he's like a you know, one

510
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: of those VIP veteran roles, you know, bring him on

511
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: a third down rush, the quarterback kind of thing. I can.

512
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Speaker 1: I could still see him coming back. I'm not like

513
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Speaker 1: I don't want it. I'm not in the draw. I

514
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: know Paul would lose his mind with that one. Um,

515
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: you know, I would like to see them move to

516
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 1: these guys like Wilson and McMillan. But again, it's still

517
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: hard to look at that group yesterday and think, yeah,

518
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Speaker 1: this is you know, it's like, all right, we got

519
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: some new guys. I don't know, I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Howe was on one of Paul's stations this morning

521
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: and they asked him, you know, how's the defense look,

522
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: and rightly so he said, you know, it's hard to tell.

523
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: I mean, they're in shorts, which was they're not tackling.

524
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Speaker 1: Thirty five seconds after he told you what Mac Jones's

525
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: completion stats were a quote in the competitive defenses, they

526
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Speaker 1: get the guy with the ball and bring him down

527
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Speaker 1: to the ground. So they couldn't do that, you know.

528
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, now he's but in terms of like you know,

529
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Speaker 1: you said in the cornerbacks, M yeah, you know, Jack

530
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Speaker 1: Jones kind of in the mix, scrappy, you know, a little.

531
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Speaker 1: I mean, he just he looked quick, He looked quick,

532
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: He looked I don't want to say decisive, because that,

533
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: you know, implies he knows what he's doing. But he

534
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,719
Speaker 1: just he seemed to look okay out there. I mean

535
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: him and Harris. I think we're the two rookies. Granted,

536
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: I mean the other guys. I mean, Strange was in there.

537
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: Strange was in there. I didn't really get too much

538
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: of us him. I'm not getting much offensive line play. Um.

539
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: But but those two guys, Harris and and and um

540
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 1: and Jack Jones both both showed up a little bit.

541
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: I mean, just as far as rookies, first day of

542
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: access coming and Paul, you wrote that ron Wolf was there.

543
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: Ron Wolf was there. Yes, we walked out with We

544
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 1: walked out Mike and I, uh, we turned, we got

545
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: right ron We got right out of the elevator, and

546
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: I apologize Mike. I thought I was no. No, I

547
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: didn't know who it was. I had no idea who

548
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: it was, Like, who's this old guy they're walking out

549
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: the practice right now. It's funny because I didn't know

550
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: who Elliot Wolf was. Okay, but I recognized ron Wolf

551
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, he must be going out

552
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: with Elliott. That makes it all coming together. Um. But

553
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, just in terms of the uh, the absence there,

554
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: I did well. I wrote down my quick little let's takeaways,

555
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: not a you got you got throughout your ploxuvations. I

556
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: need to save these um But one other thing, I

557
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: think the two people I was disappointed that weren't there

558
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: are Isaiah Wynn and Ronnie Perkins. Those two, you know,

559
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm fine jude On Lawrence Guy. Uh. I forget who

560
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: who for one day and that's why I try to stress,

561
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: like you know, it is voluntary and there are different

562
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: things going on. We saw some guys on rehab field,

563
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: so I don't know exactly who isn't here, but it's

564
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: not a great thing. I think there was like like

565
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: Judean and Guy and some of those players like that.

566
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: I'm not thrilled that they're not here either unless they

567
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: are here and just weren't on the field for whatever

568
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: during the portion that we saw, you know. And so Tuesday,

569
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: if you have like it was like fifteen fifteen or

570
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: so guys not that weren't spotted. If you have like

571
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: the same fifteen or so guys on on Tuesday, that

572
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: I don't think that would be great. No, I like

573
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: Ajan Phillips, some of them are relevant places. Some of

574
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: these players have earned a little bit of leeway with me.

575
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: I never know what's going on. Yeah, I would hasn't

576
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: earned any leeway with me as far as is he

577
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 1: not here because he's hurt? Again? Is he not here

578
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: because he thinks he's got it in his last year

579
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: in the the contract? And then you know, same thing with

580
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: Ronnie Perkins. Another guy that's going to be in that

581
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: mix of linebackers hasn't proven anything yet. Is one of

582
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: those young guys that they're potentially hoping to count on.

583
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: Where's he? Is he hurt? Is? You know he should?

584
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: He's somebody that needs these reps and needs to get

585
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: into the mix a sap. But um, Harry, I mean,

586
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: I of course he's if I'm him, And you know,

587
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a lame duck right now, I'm not.

588
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: I know, I don't think he needs to be here anyway.

589
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, the kickers, I'm sure they'll. I just think

590
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: Harry needs to be playing football, even if his next

591
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: year is with another team. I'd like to see from

592
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, oh, he was out there on OTAs for

593
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: his former team. I would just like to see that. Well,

594
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: that was like the narrative like last year was he

595
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: looks he looks you know, each year it's like he

596
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: looks a little flank, he looks a little quicker. He

597
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: looks a little bigger, you know, like, oh, it seems

598
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: like he's maybe got something on track now and maybe

599
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: and now it seems like I don't know. I'm not

600
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: gonna ever play here. I want you guys to trade me.

601
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay in Arizona. I'm gonna make sure I

602
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: don't get hurt. And even then there's no character. These

603
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: guys get hurt when you work at the poor Tariko.

604
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: And last week yeah, right that video on his like

605
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 1: Instagram live, Yeah, yeah, that was on a gunshot. It

606
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 1: was this Achilles. Can you imagine that You're like, okay,

607
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: watch me work out, especially now where it's like, oh,

608
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna be on TikTok. Now you're gonna be like

609
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: like right, there's a good TikTok with this girl who

610
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: like banks or shin on some sorry what you know

611
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Those are just some more random

612
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: like those are the things that workouts go bad. Yeah,

613
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: like you know, it makes a funny noise and then

614
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: everybody's got to make a make a make a joke

615
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: of it. But um but yeah, and and co work too,

616
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: that's another one who has been hurt. Why why isn't

617
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: he out there? A lot of good stuff though to see,

618
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: like I agree with Mike about Jack Jones just looked

619
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: like he's got some athleticism to him, you know. And

620
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: there's so much talk in April when the draft happened

621
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: about oh they really went out and improved the team's

622
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: speed well with Thornton, with Jones. You saw a couple

623
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: of guys on the field yesterday, like, uh yeah, yeah,

624
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: I think I think these guys are faster than the

625
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: guys that they're going to be replacing. So you could,

626
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,959
Speaker 1: you know, you sort of get a picture of it

627
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: in your mind. Some of it might be, you know,

628
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: you know, a misleading first impression, but I thought Jack

629
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: Jones looked looked pretty athletic to me. And we saw

630
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: a little bit of a Bill given someone on one

631
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: time with Marcus Jones talking about punt returning and you

632
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: know a little private conversation working through some things with him.

633
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: So I was like watching those guys that he singles out,

634
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: and I thought that was Jack. Was that Jack? Yeah?

635
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: At least that's what I wrote in the blog. Maybe

636
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: it was one of the Jones is keeping up tough,

637
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: keeping up with I think it was Jack Jones, because

638
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: I was actually commenting that I was disappointed that Marcus

639
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: wasn't over there, and then I was reminded that he

640
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: had a couple of shoulder problems. I wonder if double shoulders,

641
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: because we didn't seem much from him yesterday. Now there

642
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: were there were a good chunk of guys that were

643
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: up there for warm ups. Then guys went down to

644
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: lower field, then you know, came back up later. We're

645
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: a little bit lesser participants, all right. Eight five five

646
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: past five hundred is the A sticket hut line? Eight

647
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: five five past five hundred web radio at Patriots dot

648
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: com is the email address? Did you mention your tree Nixon?

649
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't. I didn't. I threw one line,

650
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: but I didn't say then I didn't. I left snarky

651
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: Paula on the hill. Look quick, I didn't write I

652
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: didn't write that. I didn't write it the way I

653
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: said it on the hill. A couple of little catches. Yeah, okay,

654
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: it's nice. Let's go to the A sticket hout line.

655
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: Chris with a T, I A N what's up? Christian? Christian?

656
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: Everybody can hear me? Okay, yes, yes, When how much

657
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: is the ransom I have a skill doesn't really sound bad.

658
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: It just sound like you're being held hostage a little bit.

659
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: But that's okay, keep going. I just had a comment

660
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 1: about the coordinator and do you worry about on offense?

661
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: Do you worry about if they're sort of mess them

662
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: around with who's going to be no person to call

663
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: plays and put together the game plans and all that,

664
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: that it's going to take away from the development of

665
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: the young guys, that a guy like Max's so important

666
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: in year two and it's so important for these rookies

667
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: to get too off to a fast start. Do you

668
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: see that being a problem at all? Or do you

669
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: think there's enough coaches on the staff that that won't

670
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: necessarily be an issue. I mean, I think it's a concern.

671
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: I mean I I just throw the uncertainty like is

672
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: Joe Judge? Are you how do you feel about Joe

673
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: Judge being the guy that develops Mac Jones in year two?

674
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 1: I think that's what the question is. And no, I

675
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: mean I hasn't done it before. I'd feel the same

676
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: way about just about any coach that was put into

677
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: that situation who had not been in office. What if

678
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: it's Bill developing Mac Joe. Well, it's which I'm sure

679
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: is part of it, the major power felo. But you know,

680
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: I still think you want, you know, like we said,

681
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: like somebody who's thinking about offense and how to push them.

682
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: That's why no disrespect to Bill. I think he's more

683
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: of a defensive guy, and I don't really think he

684
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: is sort of the guy to bring the offense to

685
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: like the new age a different level. Yeah, you know

686
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: what I mean, new twists that caught us by supresse.

687
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: I would rather be a younger voice. I'm not as

688
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: worried about Mac Jones' development, and it also can work

689
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: both ways. I think this is shaping up as one

690
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: of these things where Mac Jones has his built in

691
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: excuse and in some ways that takes a lot of

692
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: pressure off. Yeah, you know, because a lot of people

693
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: are saying, well, you know, if he if he doesn't

694
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: show a lot of you know, improvement in progress in

695
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: year two, you're gonna like you have the guys right there.

696
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: It's it's Bill's fault for not putting a structure together.

697
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: You know, it won't be because Mac didn't play well. Yeah,

698
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: and then bring Billy out and back next year when

699
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So in some ways that

700
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: takes a lot of pressure off Mac Jones. Yeah, you

701
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: think it's by design, No, No, I just think it's

702
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: a it could be an offshoot of Okay, if he

703
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: doesn't play well, a lot of people will say, well,

704
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: what do you expect you don't have enough as a coordinator. Yeah,

705
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: could couldn't be too. When I've heard this idea of

706
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: photo up there that Nick Cayley really is the guy,

707
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: and Bill's hesitant to sort of him towards that role

708
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to lose him right away, so

709
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: he'd rather sort of muck around with this than keep

710
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: Nick Kayley in the background. And then at some point,

711
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, have Nick Kayley be the guy you gotta have.

712
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: You gotta practice it now, Like I said, we only

713
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: see one practice a week for all we know. For

714
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: the rest of the week. Right now, Nick Kayley could

715
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: be the one talk to Jones. I don't know, Yeah,

716
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: but I would just say, based on what we say

717
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: come August, whoever's doing it has to be doing it right,

718
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, right? Yeah, that was a Bill White quote

719
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 1: right there. Whoever's doing it has to be doing it. Yeah,

720
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe this is uh, maybe this is

721
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: saying the same thing. But his question made me think, like,

722
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: are you more concerned with and again this might be

723
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: saying the same thing. Are you more concerned with the

724
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 1: offense or mac Jones if that makes sense, like mac

725
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: Jones's development or the offense as a whole moving forward

726
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: and being about both. Yeah, to me, it's all this.

727
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: I agree with Fred, it's all the same, you know,

728
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: because I'm not completely sold on mac Jones yet. And

729
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: this is why I sort of bring up this, like

730
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: what's what's judge it based on what we're seeing and

731
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: as opposed to like, let's not just give him all

732
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: the you know, the pad ex uses. I think he's

733
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: aware too of his like shortcomings, I guess, or his

734
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: weaknesses based off his price conference yesterday, I until he

735
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: said he's been working on throwing in all types of weather. Yeah,

736
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: I caught that. That's a that's a great point, and

737
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: that another that was another like sniff moment for me, like,

738
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: oh so maybe like the end of the season struggles

739
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: did have something to do with the weather, which was

740
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: you know, widely pooh pooed in a lot of circles

741
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: to it. I mean he's not just like you know,

742
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: out training in Arizona, like he's like he mentioned like

743
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: I wanted to, you know, practice throwing in the rain.

744
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: I thought that was a really interesting thing that he said.

745
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: He threw in the off season in a number of

746
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: different weather conditions. Here's my thing with Matt, which was smart. Yeah,

747
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: I got smart. I thought about this yesterday and I've

748
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: been thinking about it to Antarctic with a little extreme. Yeah,

749
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: Copley didn't have to go with Shackleton, right. Mac is

750
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: is going to be very interesting to me because I

751
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: think he does everything the right way. I think he

752
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: works really, really really hard. I think he is very

753
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: very very very focused on being a great quarterback and

754
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: everything that goes into it, he's going to do it.

755
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: But does that necessarily mean that he's going to be

756
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: a great quarterback? You know, It's like, even if you

757
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: do everything right, you put all your efforts and focus

758
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: and everything into being a great quarterback, it doesn't necessarily

759
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: mean you're going to be a great quarterback. And I

760
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,479
Speaker 1: love Mac in terms of everything he says and does

761
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: and the way he presents himself as the quarterback of

762
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: this team. I just wonder if that can make magic?

763
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: Can that make the magic? Can still watch a couple

764
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: of those fifteen yards out yesterday that didn't seem like

765
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: they got there when they were supposed to, And it's

766
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: just natural I get exactly what but but even you know,

767
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: even the specific shortcomings, um, you know, I think it's

768
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: about you know, like with Brady, it was just when

769
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: it's all on the line, you're locked in, your lights

770
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: out and you perform, and you know whether or not

771
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: you you've got enough zip on it, you can overcome

772
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: those things. It's just, you know, sometimes those players I

773
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: feel like they're just kind of great and you can't

774
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: quite explain it. I find it harder to kind of

775
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: put together somebody who is, you know, maybe isn't on

776
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: paper or great, but he works so hard that he

777
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: becomes great. And that's that's what I'm looking at his

778
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: like trajectory. I'll give you another thing that Tamara brought up,

779
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: the Jones quote about the weather. Did you find it

780
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: odd how many times he mentioned that they were on

781
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: the same page yesterday. It's almost like, Okay, this is

782
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: the script, Okay, Mac talking points. Here's here's when you

783
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: get in trouble. We're all on the same page, Okay,

784
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 1: Like I think it's an issue. I think that they've fred.

785
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: You like to say about the time wasted on things

786
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: that aren't football related, I think they've wait. I think

787
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: there's been time spent worrying about how they're going to

788
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: handle the questions about the offensive couter. Yeah. I mean

789
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: it was the same with like the coaches press conferences.

790
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: They all said the same thing. I like to think

791
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: of myself as a football coach. I coach football. I'm

792
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: a teacher. I like to teach. Like it was all

793
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: the same variation of those words. Yeah, And that's and

794
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: that's one of my criticisms of Mac is it's just

795
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: open up a little bit, like it just it does

796
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: seem kind of force sometimes of how hard he's trying

797
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: to stick to what they want him to do, and

798
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: you know it comes off a little stiff sometimes. I

799
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: know that he's got personality in there, but he's he

800
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: is not comfortable yet letting it out. While he is

801
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: a New England Patriot here practice, he needs the on

802
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: field success first. Yeah, that'll give him his comfort. You know,

803
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: he's got to show that, Okay, I can do this yeah,

804
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: it's yeah, yeah, And I get what Mike's point is.

805
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: I just I'm more with Tamara and the point that

806
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: you made about like, when you hear the same sort

807
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: of phraseology about the same topics from different people. To me,

808
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: that's an orchestrated effort. That means that tells me they

809
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: think it's it's it's different. They think it's an issue. Yeah,

810
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: because they're they're sort of pre planning to deal with it.

811
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: If they thought it was business as usual, you wouldn't

812
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: get the same words from everybody. Kendrick Bourne and Mac

813
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: Jones sounded very similar yesterday talking about the offensive coordinator

814
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: situation Joe Judge in particular. Now, Bourne was a little

815
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: bit more forthcoming to Mike's point, and he kind of

816
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: wishes Mac would be a little bit more than that.

817
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if if Kendrick Bourne got a

818
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: little bit of a talking to, not that he said

819
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: he didn't really say anything, but I thought he was

820
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: even like the Troy Brown quote, right, like Troy's work

821
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: with wide receivers. Oh really, you know, scary writing that

822
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: one down, because I don't think anybody's officially said that,

823
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: even though we all kind of thought it. Yeah, maybe

824
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: they figure it's better to spend a little bit extra

825
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: time getting everyone on the same page ahead of time

826
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: than cleaning up contradictory statements after the fact. I'd rather

827
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: have everybody on the same page rather than telling me

828
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: everybody's on the same page. That just makes and you wonder,

829
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: at what point are you making it worse rather than

830
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: making it better. I mean, like I said, twelve questions

831
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: out or whatever was fourteen yesterday about the same thing, Like, so,

832
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: you know, is that what you want? He's out? I mean,

833
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: maybe that's what they want. Just let them talk about

834
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator the whole time, and now we don't

835
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: have to discuss max development, the linebackers, the turnover a cornerback,

836
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: the old defensive front, like all that stuff is just

837
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: kind of by the wayside. Now we're just focused on

838
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: who's gonna be calm play. And you talked about you

839
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: wrote about, you know, Mac yesterday in his so I

840
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: know you were really enveloped in his press conference. It

841
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: seemed like he was kind of talking about like, you know,

842
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: like Fred, you used the word collaborative, right, like he's

843
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: part of it, Like it's gonna learn from me like,

844
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: here's here's where I'm gonna say, like the excuse makers,

845
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: I agree with like Matt Jones should not have to

846
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: worry about being part of this right now as he

847
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: enters his second year. He shouldn't be worrying about I'm

848
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: not saying you shouldn't have any say in the game plan.

849
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: Of course he should. He knows what he wants to

850
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: run and how you know you had mentioned about He's

851
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: very aware of what he can do and what he

852
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 1: needs to work on, Tamary, you said, and I agree

853
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: with that, But I don't think he should have to

854
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: worry about well, you know what, Josh isn't here anymore.

855
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: I have to step up and I have to be

856
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: more of a you know, a thinker in the meeting

857
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: rooms when we're coming up with you know, a B

858
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: and C. Like, I don't think he should be a

859
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: huge part of that in year two. Do you think

860
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: it's like similar to Daniel Jones in the sense of

861
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: like he's had so many different coaches and he never

862
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: it's a big thing. I think it's a big thing

863
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: with young quarterbacks that cycle through a lot of different voices.

864
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: It can be difficult now, you know, obviously, if you

865
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: can play, you'll overcome it. Yeah. Well, this is the

866
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: point I made to Paul when we were walking off

867
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: the field. I wish I had asked Mac about it,

868
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: but I mean, I think this is the first time

869
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: he's been the returning starter for a football time. Great

870
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: just to think about that in five years at Alabama

871
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: and this is, you know, the first time he's probably

872
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: ever been the starting quarterback at this stage of the

873
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: football season. So it's like, even that stability is kind

874
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: of undercut by losing your coordinating against I guess he's

875
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: used to it from from one perspective. And he did

876
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: say too, like it's part of the business. When the

877
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: first question about Josh McDaniels, he's like, it's part of

878
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: the business. Like who was ready for that one? Yeah,

879
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: he's ready for he had like he just took it

880
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: out of the back pocket, is right there. I thought

881
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: that one he handled very well. Yeah. I agree. Yeah,

882
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: I'm happy. I was really happy at the end he

883
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: through really happy for Josh and his family and nailed it. Yeah.

884
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: I gave him high mark for that first that first answer.

885
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: It was perfect. He didn't stumble at all. Um, but stuff, Yeah,

886
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: let's go to the phones. Fidel's in Florida. What's up, Fidel? Hey,

887
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: how are you guys doing good? Um? This is based

888
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: on the all topic of the coaching and whoever is

889
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: calling it plays. I feel like Bill Belichick is ever

890
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: watched that movie full of Boston Horrible Bosses? Yes, uh

891
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: yeah bosses yea. This is like Bill is playing Kevin's

892
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: Baton character where he tells, oh, he said promoting one

893
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: of you got the vice president, I'm just gonna absorb

894
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: that role and do the vice president's job as well.

895
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: And I'm only gonna take half the salary because I'm

896
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: a team player. And I think he just wants more

897
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: responsibility because he thinks he can do it the best way. Um.

898
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: I think it does gonna be a whole show of

899
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: it during the preseason, like they be passing the play

900
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: calling sheet like as the Baton every coach he's gonna

901
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: get call play and then someone's gonna make a spreadsheet

902
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: of this person called distant he plays Mayo called five plays,

903
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: and I think it's they'll be broken down. I just

904
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: think the same thing like my last call was, like, Um,

905
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: he just thinks he can do the best and I

906
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: don't think he's thinking too much of it. Yeah, I

907
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: wonder too, like would we all feel better? And thanks,

908
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: it's just the point for discussion, like will we all

909
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: feel better if Adam Gase was here? You know, we're

910
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: all Adam Gases were I think I think I think

911
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: people would. I would, yeah, and I you know, I'm

912
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: not telling you that would be better, but but at

913
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: least it's a guy who's been an offensive coordinator. I

914
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: would feel better. Yes, you know that there's somebody thinking

915
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: about just that every day. My major concern might be

916
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: completely for not but my concern is what Fred started

917
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: off with, like a collaborative doesn't like instill a lot

918
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: of confidence, Like there needs to be a guy. What

919
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: did you? How did you put it? Like you know

920
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: in August the guy, the guy better be doing it?

921
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: Like I need there to be one voice, and it

922
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: might not be the right one, but at least if

923
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: it's a consistent one, I think that you can overcome it.

924
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: When you have multiple voices, I think you get that

925
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: defensive thing that I think has been an issue the

926
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: last two years, like when they're not always sure exactly

927
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: what message to go by. And I think that that

928
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: can If that happens on offense, I think it's even

929
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: worse because, for obvious reasons, offense needs to be coordinated.

930
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: Everybody defense reacts to what the offense does. The offense

931
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: has to run play, everybody has to be quote on

932
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: the same page. Jeffson, Texas, Hey, Jeff, Yeah, Hi guys,

933
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: thanks thanks for taking my call. Enjoy the show here.

934
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: I have two things I want to talk about. Um.

935
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: The first one is, uh, did you see uh that

936
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: video that Edelman? Edelman did the Belichick impression. Yeah, well

937
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 1: not the impression, no, but he talked about how um

938
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: Belichick roast yeah, you know, the players would they when

939
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: they messed up plays? And I thought that was really interesting,

940
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: kind of a peek behind the curtain. No, I didn't

941
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: see it either, Yeah, okay, he I mean yeah, he

942
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: was just talking about how, you know, in front of

943
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: the whole team, he would he would keep clicking on

944
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: the play like several times, and then he would really

945
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: uh tell him you know, Ernie and Ernie and that's funny,

946
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: good Jels, funny Jels. Yeah, he just really roasted him.

947
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: So I thought that was pretty cool just to hear that.

948
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: But the other thing I want to talk about is

949
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: um the schedule and I know, I mean just to

950
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: have some fun with this because I know we could

951
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: really debate this a lot. Is the uh, you know,

952
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: wins and lost column? Right because I saw the on

953
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: NFL dot com. The Henry McKenna posted what you know,

954
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: what he thought was the wins and Losses. I thought

955
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: it was pretty interesting and I kind of agree with

956
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: it to uh somewhat. But he had he had us

957
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: beating the Jets twice, uh, beating Steelers, Bears, Lions, and Vikings.

958
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: And then he had us beating the Dolphins twice, which

959
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: I don't. I think that'd be more like a split,

960
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: so that'd be like, uh, that'd be like seven and ten. Well,

961
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: the wild card with the Dolphins is the new head coach.

962
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: You know, that's like you probably lose a up of

963
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: points because of that. So but yeah, I agree, it's

964
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. They've got they's gonna be a splint

965
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: and then like you know, the only other way that

966
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: they you know, maybe end up. I mean, obviously this

967
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: is just all because we don't know anything. Yeah, anything

968
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: could happen, but all the teams that they were lose

969
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: through Ravens, Green Bay Browns, Colts, Cardinals, Raiders, Bengals and

970
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: twice to the Bills. I mean, is there a you know,

971
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: maybe there's one game in there. They're all heavy favorites,

972
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: but maybe there's one in there that you know, something

973
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: goes wrong. The team's been beat up and you know

974
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: they got a major one of the top players is out. Um.

975
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: But I mean, of course you can say the same

976
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,959
Speaker 1: thing about the take exactly. Yeah, right, yeah, it's there.

977
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: Like we've said, there are no pencil din wins. There

978
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: wasn't any last year and there will not be any

979
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: this year. Every game is gonna be tough. Every game,

980
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm concluding the Jets, every game is gonna be tough.

981
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: Did a good draft, Yeah, but certainly some you could right. Um, No,

982
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: I'm not willing to do that either. I mean I

983
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: will pencil in games that they are definitely the underdog,

984
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: which are most But I listen, I don't know, you know,

985
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: that's the fun. I mean, we talked about all these

986
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: and thanks for the call, Jeff, I appreciate it. We

987
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: talked about all these people on offense, what happens if

988
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: things click with DeVante Parker and Bourne and Myers and

989
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: and what happens if the offense just wow, this thing

990
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: is working, and now the only thing we're worrying about

991
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: is the defense, then that's a whole different thing that

992
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: from last year. Because last year when we were worried

993
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: about both sides. Yeah, you know, Joe Judge offensive genius, right,

994
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: the hot new name and offensive football. But it's not

995
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 1: out of the realm of possibility, I know. I mean, yeah,

996
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: as long as you're operating out of the premise that

997
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: nothing is out of the realm of possibility. Yeah, yeah,

998
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: I think it's too early to the pencil anything in.

999
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: I think you can highlight like your marquee games, like

1000
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: games to watch, but I don't think you can pencil

1001
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: in like wins and losses. There's too many unknowns in

1002
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: terms of personnel, like who knows who's going to be

1003
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: healthy when you come around, who knows who's gonna I'm like,

1004
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: you know, I think Cleveland was one of those games.

1005
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: Who knows what John Watson status will be, right, certainly

1006
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: sounds like he's going to get suspended. I don't know

1007
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: if he will. You know, if Josh was still here

1008
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: and you kind of return the whole offense. You added

1009
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: some good player. I mean, well, at least at least

1010
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: Parker's proven peace. I mean, you know that was last

1011
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: year an average offense. I would say, which you know

1012
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: better or worse? That's what they were. I mean you

1013
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: would you be looking now if Josh was just just

1014
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: have Josh back? Is this a potential top ten offense?

1015
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you return in everybody, and I know that

1016
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: there's issues, but you got some good depth at receiver.

1017
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: You got a couple tight ends that are now Stevenson

1018
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: had a good rookie year. He should be better. You

1019
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: know you've got some depth there. I mean you can

1020
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: make the argument. I mean, I think the Joe Judge

1021
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 1: offensive cornerything casts a large shadow for good reason. But

1022
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: if circumstances were just a little bit different, you might

1023
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: be able to say, I'd have to top ten offenses.

1024
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: Should be honest with you, because I think the drop off,

1025
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: the precipitous drop off down the stretch, was not a coincidence.

1026
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: I think it was people figuring out the things that

1027
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: the Patriots were doing on offense, yes, and the things

1028
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: the quarterback couldn't couldn't do, And I don't think that

1029
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: that's a coincidence. When the production all right, I'll tell

1030
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Speaker 1: just uh, what do you think of the New Thor trailer.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to enjoy that movie very much. Yeah, I

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01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: then you know, people go and it's again like minded

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Speaker 1: nerds that that love and I you know, the kids

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01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: have gone because they love Jaws, and we go, you sit,

1260
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: you have you know, burger and fries, and you watch

1261
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: Jaws and everybody really gets into the movie. You know,

1262
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: obviously there's nobody that's watching it. It's never seen it, right,

1263
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: it's like that kind of fan forum thing that you're

1264
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: talking about. They did like season one Mandalorian in a

1265
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: theater and made it. You know, it's not just you're

1266
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: going to see I mean, granted, how cool. I mean

1267
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: we watched that on a small screen, but that would

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01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: translate to the big screen. Amazing. I'd love to rewatch

1269
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: that in a big theater with a bunch especially you

1270
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: know what's coming. And then you have like one of

1271
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: the like you know, sub role acts the show up

1272
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: and you know, introduce the show and yeah, Carl Weathers

1273
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: is here. Everybody, Thanks for coming, folks, you know, yeah,

1274
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: all right, there you go. There's no more family movie nights,

1275
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: you know. Now it's an event, that's that's all. And

1276
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: that's what That leads to more events in the movies, right,

1277
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: not just about the movie, but but about the crowd too, almost,

1278
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, like going to a Patriots game and everyone

1279
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: dresses up, everybody gets in there, they got their lightsaber.

1280
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: Paul would love it. Yeah, what are we doing here?

1281
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna just drop the kids off? Right, Yeah, you're

1282
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: being on the Jaws one though. We could be you hardy,

1283
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: we could I told you I've done. We could guess

1284
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: host a panel of some sort of Jaws trivia and

1285
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: Paul would show up at Miracle on Ice with his whistle,

1286
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: and then he'd be at the concession booth with the

1287
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: diet pepsis again again, and they just keep giving him

1288
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: diet pepsis. Pretty sure they do at Newport Beach, the

1289
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: Premier Joys out in the ocean, you float in the water.

1290
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: I've heard, I've heard about that. I'm not necessarily in that.

1291
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah that that that would not fly with me away nice?

1292
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: All right, well, we got something going. Maybe we can

1293
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: do it at Patriot Place. Let's do it. Let's do it,

1294
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: could we do Let's do uh, let's do all six

1295
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: of the three Games to Glory, you know or something,

1296
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: maybe the three Highlight games. How we're out on the patients.

1297
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: It's gotta be Star Wars. Yeah, we're outside of football

1298
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: right now. It's like, you know, dudes, Jemmy Thorpe. All right,

1299
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: let's go to the a sticking outline Christians in LA.

1300
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: What's up, Christian? Hey you guys, Good morning to you

1301
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: and always nice to talk to you guys. So you know,

1302
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: you guys are talking about what they do. On May

1303
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: the fourth, the most movie theaters around the country will

1304
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: have every Star Wars episode that you know that place

1305
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: played in the in the theaters so fans could come

1306
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: in dress up like, you know, whatever they want to Yeah,

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01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: for the day. Yeah, so they're doing the day they conview. Well,

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01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: give me the stream ones, give me the ones I

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01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: haven't seen a million times on the big street. We

1310
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: also see the man. Yeah, we're also including like stuff

1311
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: in on TV now, like we just talk about Stranger

1312
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: Things and Mandalorian and you know, I just got finished

1313
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: watching Um Moon Night. You know, I think that's a

1314
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: little early yet for this type of concept. But you know,

1315
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: stuff you you're you're used to seeing on TV, and

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01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: now I get to see it on the big screen

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01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: with people, with a bunch of people who love it

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01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: as much as I do. I think that's at Scott Legs. Yeah.

1319
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: Well so I don't know if you guys know what

1320
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: I did for a living now I'm in tech book

1321
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: And further, I was a executive producer over in the

1322
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: studio system. And so for that to happen, there's so

1323
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: much red tape contracts and licensing and all this kind

1324
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: of stuff just to make something like that happen. So realistically,

1325
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: yes it could, but it would be really, really really

1326
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: half of the I think Disney could do it, though

1327
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: they the theater a blank and on the name right

1328
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: on Hollywood across from Man's that I think Disney actually

1329
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: even owned, So like, couldn't they just so stay own

1330
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,479
Speaker 1: theater stuff? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know, But like he said,

1331
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: like what's in the writer's contract about distribution where it

1332
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: can be seen and all that stuff? You know? So

1333
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: I mean these after conte and all that kind of

1334
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: stuff that goes into it. I know they did do

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01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: Stranger things. He's in one at the same theater that

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01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: they do Rocky Horror Picture Show here in LA. They

1337
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: did that around Halloween the New Arts time, you know,

1338
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: was it the New Art but that was a special

1339
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: event New Art Art Theater maybe yeah, yeah, Okay, Hey,

1340
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: so it does have leg It just needs to be

1341
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: worked out. So we need a lawyer. We need a

1342
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: lawyer in charge of it. It would be a whole

1343
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: new department tell the truth. That's the way the system worked. Okay,

1344
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: all right, thanks Christian. Yeah, because the bottom line is

1345
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: now you're you know, besides, you know the subscription fees

1346
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: that these companies are now you're making money off of

1347
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: this content. Where does that money go? But but we're

1348
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: just gonna want off it, like this is gonna be

1349
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: We're not not releasing it in theaters were one time,

1350
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: but still it's it's like you can't you know, even now,

1351
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: you can't reserve a theater and show NFL on Sunday.

1352
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: You can't do that. You're not allowed to. So I've

1353
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: heard on me a little disclaimer. Yeah before you know,

1354
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: because it's a new revenue stream, where does that revenue go?

1355
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: Who gets to share it? Yeah? You know, you know

1356
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 1: you're making money off of our intellectual property. I get that. Yeah,

1357
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: you know. Well, with the way that theaters are going

1358
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: under now, you'd think that they would figure out a

1359
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 1: deal and figure it out that action. Yeah, Williams and philam,

1360
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: what's up? William Fred? What's going on? Oh? You know,

1361
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 1: we're just holding down the ford here? You on it down? Okay.

1362
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: My question is, um, with so much I guess, so

1363
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: much uncertainty around around a team whatnot? Um, I guess

1364
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: you say my frienspoo, the team is do you think

1365
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: Mac has enough around him? I mean in terms of

1366
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: I guess talent and basically weapons or whatever, but just

1367
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: one though, do you think they have enough around him?

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01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: On May twenty fourth, twenty twenty two, I am saying

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01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: yes at this moment, I am saying, yes, he has

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01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: enough pieces around him to succeed. I think it's a

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01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: pretty good rab piece. I mean, I don't think that

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01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 1: they have Do they have that number one elite guy?

1373
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: Probably not, But I think that they have some good

1374
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: depth to a point where they've got a couple of

1375
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: good tight ends, They've got four or five receivers that

1376
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:28,879
Speaker 1: can play. Can they offensively employ all of those pieces

1377
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: together to stress defenses and really, you know, take teams

1378
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: out of that comfort factor that they had apparently last

1379
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: year like that. That's what my question is. But I

1380
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: think I think they've got some good pieces there. I mean,

1381
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, I think if Josh was back,

1382
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: you would be saying this has got to take a

1383
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 1: big league forward. We've only added. Yeah, what I want

1384
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: to see, you know, like last year, I harp on it,

1385
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,799
Speaker 1: but I've never heard a team say of the Patriots

1386
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: they were easy to defend until last year. That has

1387
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: to stop. So can they use these pieces in such

1388
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 1: a way that, like you said, stresses defense, gives the

1389
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: matchup problems all that, And then the second thing is

1390
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 1: they got to just trust these guys, And you know

1391
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: that's whether it's Mac or Joe Judge or whoever guy

1392
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 1: drops the ball, go back to them, you know, don't

1393
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 1: don't don't limit your offense to you know, Leonard Myers,

1394
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: not Leonard Myers. Uh, you know Myers And we used

1395
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: to have a guy named Leonard Myers in the running game.

1396
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: You know, spread it out. Let people make mistakes, especially

1397
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: early in the in the season, and and just go

1398
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: with it, have faith and just keep working at it. Yeah,

1399
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: and you've got some depth. Can you get Kendrick Bourne

1400
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: lined up on their fourth cornerback? Can you you know,

1401
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: can you exploit that way to get some of your

1402
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: better players where maybe our number one verse their number

1403
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: one there, they got us there, their cornerback's gonna shut

1404
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 1: down Parker on the outside. But you know, can we

1405
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: do enough to you know, if it's Thornton polling coverage,

1406
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: can we do enough to get favorable matchups for John H.

1407
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: Smith or Hunter Henry or Kendrick Bourne or Jacobi Myers down.

1408
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 1: It's all about Mac Jones. I think they were easy

1409
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: to defend last year because of Mac Jones, because I

1410
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: think those receivers. I think Mike is right. I don't

1411
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: think there's a start up among them, but they're okay, yeah, no, no, no,

1412
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 1: And I was just gonna say, and then it comes

1413
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: down to Mac recognizing what's going on out there and

1414
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: just you know, pulling the trigger and making it happen

1415
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 1: and being on time and having faith. You know, it's

1416
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: it's all of the above. But I do think your question, William,

1417
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 1: I do think there are the pieces right now on

1418
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: this team for Mac Jones and the offense to be successful. Yeah. Yeah,

1419
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: then I'm good enough with them for I just want

1420
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 1: to ask question. That's it. So look, I've been calling

1421
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,839
Speaker 1: you for them for years and now for the longest.

1422
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 1: How do I treat out your guys? You know if

1423
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: I were wanted, you know, to do that. Oh you

1424
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: don't need to do that. Just keep just keep listening. Yeah,

1425
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: just you just listen. That's just keep listening. That's all

1426
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: we ask. But you can also just email Matt a

1427
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 1: web radio at pagerst a credit card. But no, seriously,

1428
01:11:55,960 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 1: we're listening. Is more than enough. Thanks, William, appreciate the thought.

1429
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: Very nice of you, William, Like, who ate two orders

1430
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 1: of chicken fingers and a side of meatballs? But yeah,

1431
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: I mean I guess Taekwon to me, is a big

1432
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 1: X factor in the whole improvement thing. I don't expect

1433
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: Tae Kwon Thorton to be a big part of the

1434
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: offense in his rookie year. Now, maybe I'll be wrong,

1435
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: and maybe he will be, but otherwise you're basically dealing

1436
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: with the same personnel. You add DeVante Parker. I think

1437
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 1: that's a big ad. Okay, I don't. I think it's

1438
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: an ad, but I don't think it's huge. Disagree. I

1439
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: think he's going to replace a guy that you had

1440
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: last year and probably be a similar like you're gonna

1441
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: put a different kind. I think he's better on the

1442
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 1: outside than Agilore as an example. Okay, So I think

1443
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 1: you might have a chance that he's gonna win a

1444
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: couple of fifty fifty balls down the sideline for you

1445
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: that Aglo didn't do draw some penalties for you last year.

1446
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how many of that he's gonna I

1447
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,719
Speaker 1: don't think he's I think it's a big addition, okay,

1448
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: But but you've got to take someone away like it's

1449
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: it's easy to sit there and say, well, they have five,

1450
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 1: but you don't need You don't have five guys out

1451
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: there at once. Yeah, So if Parker is better than

1452
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: Agila last year, then your offense is better because he's

1453
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: probably replacing Agilare do you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1454
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: that would be good. I think if he if he

1455
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: ends up being a better player. Um, do you get

1456
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: as much out of Myers next this this year as

1457
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: you did last year? Or does the offense change and

1458
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 1: maybe his role as smaller? Maybe Agil goes in the

1459
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: slide of his take some of his snaps away. Um.

1460
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: The offensive line to me is very much a question mark.

1461
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 1: I think you've lost personnel off your offensive line in

1462
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: your own time. It remains to be seen if it's better.

1463
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: But I'm just like the whole like they've they've made

1464
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: like I know, like to like snap back at Douce

1465
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: a little bit like if Josh was here. They've added

1466
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: DeVante Parker. So like, I don't know how much better

1467
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 1: the offense would be because I'm very encouraged that they

1468
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: brought back Trent Brown. Um. You know, of course he

1469
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: has to stay healthy, but I'm encouraged that they I

1470
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 1: know that, but that's what they had last year, I know,

1471
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: And they've lost two starters off of what they had

1472
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 1: when he wasn't in. We saw the drop off and

1473
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: did we Yeah, we did, and we saw it picked

1474
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: up when he came back. Okay, well what about the guards?

1475
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: Why are we ignoring it? We just the first offense

1476
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: was worse. At the end of the year. When Trent

1477
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: Brown came back, we just invested he was part of it.

1478
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: We just invested a first round pick in a guard.

1479
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about that. Okay, so again, maybe you're better.

1480
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: That remains to be I'll end with the same comment

1481
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: I made at the beginning. It remains to be seen.

1482
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 1: You've lost two starts. On May twenty fourth, I'm saying

1483
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: they've got the pieces. Now I have the courage to

1484
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 1: say that. But the pieces, and you know, that is

1485
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Some people are I think is very

1486
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 1: similar to what it was last year. I'm not afraid

1487
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 1: to say that. I don't think that's a controversial. You know,

1488
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm willing to go out on a limb and say

1489
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: that if mac Jones is better, your offense will be better. Okay,

1490
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: the personnel around him is really unchanged. There's a couple

1491
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: of pieces that are in and out, and I think

1492
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: they're washes like I think cole Strange will be tech.

1493
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 1: I think I don't. I don't think that cole Strange

1494
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 1: will be the reason why the offensive line takes a

1495
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: step forward or back. I think there's something also be

1496
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 1: said about second year jump for free agents, which were

1497
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: there many on this team. I think that's what you're

1498
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 1: relying on. I'm saying only above, it's a lot of

1499
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: these If eighty percent of them hit, we're gonna be

1500
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: a better offense than we were last And you would

1501
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: also be in a group of one of teams that

1502
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: that has had that happened to him. Eighty percent of

1503
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: the guys are going to be better in the year two. Well,

1504
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 1: I think for me, I think the offensive line's just health.

1505
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: I think they'll be if if if the two tackles

1506
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: stay healthy, it's it's gonna be what it's gonna be.

1507
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: You know, that's average everything, Like I mean, people forget that,

1508
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 1: like down the stretch last year, Trent Brown was part

1509
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: of the problem. Like go back to that was the

1510
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: Indianapolis game that the guy ran right by him or

1511
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: might have been a Buffalo. What are the Buffalo games? Like?

1512
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 1: He was not great when he plays, he's not great.

1513
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 1: He's okay. Well, I like that he's here at least

1514
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 1: puts him ahead of Win. To Mike's point, you know,

1515
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 1: earlier in the show, like I'd like to see Isaiah

1516
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 1: Wynn out there and at least I know he's healthy.

1517
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: Now like with him not there, it leads me to

1518
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:20,839
Speaker 1: wonder is it health related? Is he you know, protecting himself?

1519
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: Why why is he not here? He needs to get over? Um,

1520
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: Destiny is in Maryland? What's up, Destiny? Hey, this is

1521
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 1: my first time calling in. Actually, Um, I actually started

1522
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: listening to you guys last year off season, and I

1523
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 1: just wanted to say, great job that you guys do.

1524
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:44,640
Speaker 1: And I have two questions. Well, one statement, Um, have

1525
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 1: you guys ever watched The Lincoln Lawyers, the one with

1526
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey. I don't think so. No, Oh, my wife's

1527
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 1: watching that right now. Actually, oh it's a it's on

1528
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: right now. No. Then I definitely have never seen. Yeah,

1529
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: there's a show. There's a show that they guess they

1530
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 1: took it from. All right, that's that's what she's Yeah,

1531
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: it's actually really good. Okay. My actual question was, um,

1532
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,719
Speaker 1: I know, um the blog you guys said Jack Jones

1533
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 1: was was doing pop return what happens to Marcus Jones

1534
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: for at least I know, Okay, it's not like the

1535
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: greatest thing, but yeah, yeah he was. I mean, I'm struggling.

1536
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 1: He was not returning any punts. But Mike reminded me

1537
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 1: during practice yesterday that he did have surgery on both shoulders. Um,

1538
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,799
Speaker 1: so he was a little limited. He wasn't really involved

1539
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: in much. I think he was more like stretched, go

1540
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 1: down to the lower field. If that was a regular

1541
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: I think Jim McBride wrote it this way in the paper, say,

1542
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: if that were a regular season practice, he would have

1543
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: been listed as limited. Like James White, Jabrill Peppers out

1544
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 1: they were out there, but they're not doing the team

1545
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,719
Speaker 1: portion stuff. I don't think Marcus Jones would be fully

1546
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: ready to go full board if this were a regular

1547
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 1: season I mean, just to point out Bledsoe and mcgron,

1548
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 1: we're both kind of around last year during this same

1549
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 1: kind of thing, and neither of them even played last year.

1550
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: So not to say that that's what Mark and Jones is,

1551
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: but there's just there's some there's some gray area with

1552
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: these guys and this point of the But yeah, I'm Destiny.

1553
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm expecting to see Marcus Jones um in the mix

1554
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:23,600
Speaker 1: for a return job. Oh yeah, absolute should be his. Yeah,

1555
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: all right, thanks Destiny. I wasn't expecting a fella. I

1556
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: was waiting to put our hands together. Yeah, because we

1557
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 1: were talking about renting out theaters and I thought Destiny

1558
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: was McCall say, you know you could have strippers, you know,

1559
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:40,879
Speaker 1: but wow? Yeah, Um, Todd's right, calling in from North Carolina.

1560
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 1: I hate Todd. Hey, guys, this interesting show so far.

1561
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 1: Oh thank interesting, it's over. I'm kind of trying to follow,

1562
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: but hey, I don't have the background in filmology to be, oh,

1563
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 1: you know, follow someone what you guys you're talking about?

1564
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 1: My question is I'm scared watching TV shows. I was thinking,

1565
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: what what was our team speed like for our safeties

1566
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 1: and our linebackers, like the people who were here but

1567
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 1: not necessarily playing what we're What did we have for

1568
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 1: teams eat from previous before this year, before the draft,

1569
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 1: like his ouch, somebody that's got a top end speed

1570
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: like who who on our team displays they don't know?

1571
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean supposedly is fast? Um? And then this guy

1572
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 1: Cameron mcgron is supposedly these guys don't have that. They

1573
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 1: don't have that reputation as being that mcgron No, I

1574
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 1: thought he did, no that. I thought he made it

1575
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: up with his size with speed. Yeah, I think he's

1576
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 1: faster than like Dante Hi Tom. Yeah, but he's not

1577
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:48,680
Speaker 1: as fast as like Jamie Collins. Well, Jimmy Collins a freak, right, Yeah, that,

1578
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: but that's what we're talking about, Okay. I mean, I

1579
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: don't think there really was anybody who I asked. I agree, Mike,

1580
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 1: you know that that was somewhat by design. I mean,

1581
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 1: I do think Mac mac wilson, I thought moved pretty

1582
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: well as quicker. Yeah, he thinks he's smaller quicker. I

1583
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: think he's more of a coverage guy that might be

1584
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 1: able to be a fifer kind of thing, might be

1585
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 1: able to help out in that regard. Yeah. Yeah. So

1586
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 1: my last point is, do you think they're going to

1587
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: try to focus more on having past defenders back there

1588
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: and maybe being a little lighter to try to utilize

1589
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: what's beat to compete with some of the guys like

1590
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: they got in Miami and of course always when we

1591
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 1: play against teams like Kansas City and stuff like that,

1592
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 1: or they are they going to still try to get

1593
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 1: some thumpers in there to try to stop the first

1594
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 1: down running off. I mean, okay, I mean I think,

1595
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: you know, I think ideally you have a little stable

1596
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 1: of guys that can play different styles. I mean I

1597
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 1: think that you know that early Dynasty team, like we

1598
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 1: said Fifer, I mean, you know Bruski, he ran pretty well,

1599
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 1: but you know, you just had a good mix of guys.

1600
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 1: I think that's what the goal is not to be.

1601
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: All right, we have all small linebackers now and everybody's fast. Like,

1602
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 1: I still think you needed you want Bentley, Like you know,

1603
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: I don't think he needs to be an every down linebacker,

1604
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 1: but I think that there's certainly use for him. Well,

1605
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 1: I think today's game, if you are just a small team,

1606
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:04,560
Speaker 1: there are teams that are going to be able to

1607
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: take advantage of you. I think Bill will always be

1608
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 1: a game plan guy no matter what. But the question is,

1609
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: and I think it's a good one in today's NFL,

1610
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 1: how much are you giving up if you're mostly smaller,

1611
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: faster defense than having those big guys up front. And

1612
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: can you get by with having a couple of guys

1613
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 1: So when you come up against Derek Henry, you know,

1614
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 1: you can at least guys in Yeah, it's completely adecdotal.

1615
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,440
Speaker 1: I would say that what you're looking for is a combination.

1616
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 1: It's like Tampa Bay has tiny linebackers, but they have

1617
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: mammoth guys online like and you know, Sue has been

1618
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: there the last couple of years. So I don't think

1619
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 1: people have been able to abuse them running the ball, right,

1620
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, despite the fact that it's Devin White and

1621
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: Levante David, they're not huge linebackers, right. So's so maybe

1622
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: in today's NFL, like I remember, you know, back in

1623
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers of the eighties nineties, they'd have these

1624
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 1: big linebackers that were also free. They could they were fast,

1625
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: you know for their size. But today's game, maybe you

1626
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 1: can get by with smaller linebackers as long as you

1627
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: have you know, a bigger front. That's and that's that

1628
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 1: was where I was going next as Paul like walked

1629
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 1: us into and I thought it was great. I mean

1630
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: that's you know, how do you feel do you feel

1631
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 1: that we got Vida Vey? That's that's the concern, Like

1632
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: these are older guys, god chaw, you know, like, are

1633
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:27,879
Speaker 1: those guys going to be able to keep ray Kwa, McMillan,

1634
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 1: and mac wilson clean so that they can make plays.

1635
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: That's why I would rather go with the smaller, more

1636
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 1: athletic guys because I feel like I feel like the

1637
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: run stopping is going to be a problem again, Yeah,

1638
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 1: because I don't think they have the bulk up front

1639
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 1: to to deal with it. Uh. You know the three

1640
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: times a year that you lose a game because the

1641
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 1: other team you know, you know, or you got in

1642
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: trouble in the game because the other team ran the ball, okay, right,

1643
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, you have to live with it. I don't

1644
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: think that most teams want to win that way. You know, Tennessee,

1645
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 1: does you know for sure? You know last year Cleveland

1646
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 1: try to do it, even ran for a million yards

1647
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 1: against them, couldn't score any points. I think you have

1648
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 1: to you have to try. I'm not suggesting that you

1649
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 1: just sit there and say, well, we're gonna let you

1650
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: run for two hundred yards, Well we'll be okay. No,

1651
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 1: like the Miami game, that was a game that couldn't

1652
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: stop the run against a team that didn't really run

1653
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 1: the ball all that well. That last game of the year,

1654
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 1: remember how well they ran the ball mic so yeah,

1655
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 1: that's a problem when you can't stop the run at all.

1656
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 1: I just I think that if I have to make

1657
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: that choice, I'm looking if mac Wilson can be more

1658
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 1: of a presence, you know, stopping Devin's singletary from making

1659
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 1: all of those plays, because he made a lot of

1660
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: plays in those two games, the last two Buffalo games

1661
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: as a receiver. You know, maybe he can be better

1662
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: than high Tower, you know, tracking these guys down and

1663
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 1: instead of an eight yard game, it's a four yard

1664
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: game on one of those little swing passes. I'll take

1665
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 1: that swap if that can be. It's a hard thing

1666
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 1: to do. It's a hard thing to do it that way,

1667
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: I think. And I really think this is kind of

1668
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 1: the nuts and bolts right now of you know, why

1669
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: the Patriots have, you know, just haven't been able to

1670
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 1: hit that next level post Brady and and I mean,

1671
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 1: I just I think it's interesting, totally right about the

1672
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 1: run defense. And at the same time, you look at

1673
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 1: the attention they've paid to their own running game and

1674
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 1: how they've you know, drafted to running backs. They took

1675
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,679
Speaker 1: Stevenson last year. I know they're quote unquote moving away

1676
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 1: from the fullback. Maybe that's true. Maybe not, but you know,

1677
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 1: it seemed like on one side of the ball, they're like,

1678
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 1: you know, we really need to be able to run

1679
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 1: the ball, And the other side of the ball, they're like,

1680
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll kind of figure it out when

1681
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: we get there with the with the run they don't.

1682
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: I agree, it's kind of funny. That's weird. It is there.

1683
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 1: It's a funny dichotomy. But I do think that you're

1684
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 1: seeing a little bit. And I just wonder if they're

1685
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,799
Speaker 1: playing to their strengths on both sides, you know, maybe

1686
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 1: you know, we have to try to figure out how

1687
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: to better handle the pass on defense, and we have

1688
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: to figure out how to run the ball, because I

1689
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,759
Speaker 1: don't think that they can feel comfortable dropping back forty

1690
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 1: five times a game, because you really need you need both.

1691
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna be a game plan offen defense,

1692
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 1: how do you get to the game and you realize, Wow,

1693
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,719
Speaker 1: we don't have this piece of it, you know, And again,

1694
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 1: I think the defensive front is where a lot of

1695
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: this stuff is gonna live or die. How well they

1696
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 1: play along the line of scrimmage and on the edges,

1697
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 1: and you know, whether these guys can get there and

1698
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: make plays or not. It's just going to depend on

1699
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 1: the guys up front making plays. I mean, Seymour will

1700
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: fork those guys. You still have big linebackers. They still

1701
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 1: made plays. It didn't matter that they might not have

1702
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 1: been the fastest linebacker group. They just they dominated with

1703
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 1: those guys. But a whole different, a whole whole different. No,

1704
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,839
Speaker 1: it's schematically, And the other thing is whatever you decide,

1705
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, whatever you decide you want to try to be.

1706
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 1: If you're good at it, you can succeed. Like there's

1707
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: a lot of things that people would say you can't

1708
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 1: win that way. You know, we had a chance that

1709
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 1: I'll give you a little previo. Matt no Socks and

1710
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 1: I talked to Ernie Adams yesterday for our latest podcast,

1711
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 1: Pats from the Past podcast. So you know, one of

1712
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 1: the things Ernie talked about was, you know there's still

1713
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: you know, like Baltimore. You know there's still teams that

1714
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 1: want to get physically the lineup and run the ball.

1715
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 1: And I think that again, I think that in the

1716
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: NFL today, you need to be able to throw the

1717
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 1: ball and put points on the board. Baltimore runs the

1718
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: ball so well they were able to score a lot

1719
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 1: of points with the way they do it and having

1720
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 1: their quarterback be you know, sort of a unicorn the

1721
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 1: way he runs and throws, and it works. It's not conventional,

1722
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: but it works for them now. I would also argue

1723
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: that they haven't quite gotten over the hump yet doing

1724
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 1: it that way. But I don't like a couple of

1725
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 1: years ago when they were the number one seed, they

1726
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: had a good enough team to win the Super Bowl,

1727
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: they weren't probably emotionally ready for the spot and they lost.

1728
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: But that's an example of just because you're not doing

1729
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: it like everybody else does, but you have to have

1730
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 1: that unicorn where you have to be able to be

1731
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 1: really good at it, you know, Ernie said, you know,

1732
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 1: you still need to be able to stop the run

1733
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 1: and do all these kinds of things, and you have

1734
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 1: to be strong at it. All starts up front. Start well.

1735
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: I think the worst offensive line in football last year

1736
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 1: was in the Super Bowl in Cincinnati. The worst, you know,

1737
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 1: the year before, Kansas City was the worst offensive line

1738
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 1: in football. They were in the Super Bowl. So if

1739
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 1: you're really good at what you want to do, you

1740
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 1: can still succeed. It's not ideal you have to work

1741
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: around it. I mean, not every team has like you know,

1742
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:10,719
Speaker 1: Mike and Irelake. Yeah, you gotta be better doing this, Togeter.

1743
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: Not every team has all bases covered, right, that's the

1744
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 1: two thousand and four Patriots. It's rare, right, you know,

1745
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: there was nothing the two thousand and four Patriots couldn't

1746
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 1: do right. They could beach you anyway that that that

1747
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 1: you wanted to get beaten. Trent writes in He's from

1748
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 1: Sylvan Lake, Alberta. With Josh McDaniel's leaving and taking some

1749
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 1: brain power with him to Vegas, does this mean the

1750
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:36,799
Speaker 1: Patriots offense will be considerably easier to pick up for players?

1751
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 1: In the past, the offense has been compared to calculus.

1752
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 1: With new offensive coaching staff coming in, should we expect

1753
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 1: more of a remedial offense. If that's the case, maybe

1754
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 1: the players will be able to play faster without overthinking

1755
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 1: the route running or protection assignments. Do you guys buy

1756
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: into this theory? Could this be a major help for

1757
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: not only new players but John Smith types as well.

1758
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:02,719
Speaker 1: Should we be expecting a big year to jump from Smith?

1759
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think so. I think that I

1760
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 1: think that the core parts of this offense that make

1761
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 1: it kind of difficult for people, I think will will

1762
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 1: still remain. I mean, I think they might lean more

1763
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 1: into certain other avenues, but I think the route adjustments

1764
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: after the snap, those things, being able to read the defense,

1765
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 1: being on the same page with the quarterback. I think

1766
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 1: all those things are going to stay. They're not going

1767
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 1: to all of a sudden go back to an offense

1768
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 1: where it's just a number system and you run your

1769
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 1: route and if it's not open, it's not open. I

1770
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 1: think once you get to a point where you have

1771
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: an offense that can adjust to what the defense does,

1772
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how you go back the other way.

1773
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 1: I mean, and certainly testing when it's not being as

1774
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 1: successful as it was. But I don't think that part's

1775
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,879
Speaker 1: going to change. And I didn't hear much from players

1776
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 1: last year. You know, the newcomers complaining about not understanding

1777
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: you know this. Cam Newton is the one who used

1778
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 1: the calculus word, right, It's like calculus. I know they

1779
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 1: change the offense when I was gone for a week.

1780
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 1: You know this, you know, much simpler offense. Denty and

1781
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 1: Carolina didn't seem to improve his play, So I think

1782
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: that was a Cam Newton issue. Long way of saying,

1783
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:09,799
Speaker 1: you listen to guys like Christian Fourier talk about the offense,

1784
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 1: and I think he makes a good He made a

1785
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 1: good point yesterday, like what makes the Patriots offense more

1786
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 1: challenging than some others was not the offense itself. He

1787
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 1: found it very easy to learn the offense. It was Brady. Yes,

1788
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 1: it was Brady's demanding perfection, you know, and that was

1789
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 1: obviously the reason why he was so good. But it

1790
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 1: also forced some guys to not be able to do it.

1791
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 1: And we know the names, you know, the Joey Galloways

1792
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 1: and the Ocho Cinkos and you know some of these

1793
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,719
Speaker 1: other guys that just couldn't seem to get up to speed.

1794
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 1: But I don't like, I don't remember last year people saying,

1795
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 1: you know, you know, Agilo talked about wanting to play faster,

1796
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 1: like feeling more comfortable. That just comes with more comfort,

1797
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 1: but not because yeah, he just got here. So yeah,

1798
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 1: it takes a little time. You're gonna know the offense

1799
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 1: better in year two than you did in year one.

1800
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 1: Second year jump, that's right. So him and Smith you're

1801
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 1: up to eight percent, that's right there. You go, even

1802
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,600
Speaker 1: though Mike flatly said no, I don't think so. For

1803
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 1: General Ramones and Tampa. Uh, Fred, we're out of Edelman jerseys.

1804
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 1: Can you get something going with those? I need a

1805
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,679
Speaker 1: large I guess he's assumed talking about the pro shop

1806
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:29,840
Speaker 1: that's supply chain. Huh. Two. Can the Newerish listeners get

1807
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: even some vague background on who he shall not be

1808
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 1: named was, I don't know who it is. He was

1809
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 1: a guy who we hired back in like I don't know,

1810
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: oh six oh seven ish, somewhere in that area. Uh.

1811
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 1: He came in here a very passionate football fan. Um.

1812
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 1: He was much more interested in gambling than anything else. Um.

1813
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 1: And he was he was sort of volatile, shall we say.

1814
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 1: When he worked for us, then he left to go

1815
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,639
Speaker 1: work for one of those gambling sites in Vegas. In Vegas,

1816
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 1: and one of the first things he did at his

1817
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 1: new place of employment was absolutely a viscerate our entire

1818
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 1: operation organization, took shots at Bill Belichick, Teddy Bruski, Mike

1819
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 1: Rabel h left no stone unttermed, just completely killed everybody

1820
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 1: and got us in some trouble. And that's why we

1821
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:26,719
Speaker 1: refer to him as that. And it wasn't even true stuff.

1822
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 1: Most of it was completely made up. Yeah, I mean

1823
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, like, what are you doing dude? Yeah,

1824
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 1: he just like torched himself and then he tried to apologize. Afterwards.

1825
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 1: He reached out to Fred a little bit and you know,

1826
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 1: talked about some of the things he was going through

1827
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: and we weren't buying. Yeah, I said, I still see

1828
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 1: him once in a while on the Twitter machine. I said,

1829
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 1: you're either stupid or you're a liar. Either way, I'm done. Yeah,

1830
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 1: you know yourself. Well, that was basically it not a

1831
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:58,719
Speaker 1: quality hire by Fred. He was a rising star though.

1832
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:01,640
Speaker 1: I mean, people really liked it. Was funny. He was

1833
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 1: absolutely funny. I'll be the first to admit it. I

1834
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 1: got along with them. Well, like I he cracked me up. Now,

1835
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 1: is this when you were allowed to gamble? No no,

1836
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 1: no, no no no no no no no. We never can

1837
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 1: go six oh seven. Yeah. He in his previous life

1838
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 1: I think maybe gotten in debt gambling. Well, I think

1839
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 1: he came from a family that had some issues in

1840
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 1: that regard. Cool, careful, Oh really, Okay. He wrote a

1841
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 1: huge thing about his dad. Oh yeah, I'm not speaking

1842
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,559
Speaker 1: out of school. He wrote it. Yeah, okay, but anyway,

1843
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 1: it's he shall not be named, not going to name him. Um,

1844
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 1: we're not going to name him. Neil and New Brunswick.

1845
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,799
Speaker 1: Last week I wrote in about our schedule release promo.

1846
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 1: My comments were meant to be a joke. I hope

1847
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 1: no one really took them too seriously. I don't remember it.

1848
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about the offensive play calling until we

1849
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:55,799
Speaker 1: actually see some plays called. Let's wait until September before

1850
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 1: we hit the panic button. Well, this is funny. It's

1851
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 1: like how many people complain about Josh McDaniels playing. Oh

1852
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 1: how did he call that? There? I mean, it's just

1853
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 1: something to complain about, like every fan, you know, it's

1854
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 1: just an easy way to be you know. So I

1855
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 1: can't ever imagine that who loves their offensive coordinator? No,

1856
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: imagine the blog this year from me. Oh, I mean

1857
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: a run there? They should have passed. Oh my god,

1858
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 1: who's coordinating this offense? It's just such a low hanging

1859
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 1: fruit like thing. Today. I have a theory as to

1860
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 1: why Bill might not want to name coordinators. It's a

1861
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 1: week theory, and if it's true, I think it's kind

1862
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 1: of stupid. So just because I'm bringing it up doesn't

1863
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 1: mean I agree with it could be the thought pattern.

1864
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 1: If I don't name a coordinator, then other teams won't

1865
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 1: know who to hire when they fire their coach. Teams

1866
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 1: that succeed often lose the coordinators in January when impatient

1867
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 1: owners fire their staff. I know that's a lame reason,

1868
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 1: but what else can it be. It's not that I

1869
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,600
Speaker 1: mean I always thought. I think in the back of

1870
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 1: the day when this stuff first started happening, was a

1871
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 1: way to keep the young offensive or defensive coordinator from

1872
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 1: having to deal with the responsibilities to the media of

1873
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:03,720
Speaker 1: a coordinator. And you know now that we're at this

1874
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 1: point and if it is Joe Judge kind of that

1875
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 1: doesn't really seem necessary. He's been a head coach. You

1876
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 1: don't have to protect him. If it's a young Josh McDaniels,

1877
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 1: a young Steve Belichick, those kind of things. That's why

1878
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:16,640
Speaker 1: I think part of the storyline too on the other

1879
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 1: side of the ball, was like, is it time to

1880
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 1: finally give that title to say Steve Belchecker, Garad Mayo?

1881
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 1: Are they now ready after being groomed and not having

1882
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 1: to deal with the coordinator duties? I could have something

1883
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:32,799
Speaker 1: to do it, I don't know. Kevin writes in from Dublin.

1884
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 1: A lot has made in the NFL about the so

1885
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:38,679
Speaker 1: called second year jump. Before his rookie season, Deuce made

1886
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 1: a point about focusing on how Mac Jones looked running

1887
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 1: the offense rather than focusing on the stats. But this year,

1888
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: analysts will inevitably look for a tangible difference for evidence

1889
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 1: of that second year jump. Taking into consideration the Patriots

1890
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 1: strength of schedule offensive talent, what would you consider would

1891
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 1: qualify as a good second year jump from Mac stat wise?

1892
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:05,560
Speaker 1: In other words, touchdowns, interceptions, accuracy, et cetera. More touchdowns,

1893
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:11,679
Speaker 1: less interceptions. Maybe, yeah. I like to me, it's still

1894
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 1: not about stats. It's about what he looks like. And

1895
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 1: you know, like last year, the completion percentage was through

1896
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 1: the roof. I could take a five percent drop in

1897
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 1: completion percentage if there were more balls thrown down field,

1898
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 1: you know. And I know that they had that stat

1899
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 1: about the explosive plays. I don't really think that a

1900
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 1: lot of that was was done you know, through any

1901
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 1: any kind of deep passing or even big plays, you know,

1902
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:37,639
Speaker 1: run after catch kind of kind of plays. Very few

1903
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 1: and far between. I thought, I think it was like

1904
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 1: sixteen total plays, so you're talking less than a play

1905
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 1: a game even, you know, I don't know, it's just

1906
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:46,599
Speaker 1: I agree. It was all like it was the percentage

1907
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:48,600
Speaker 1: stuff that you always like, oh in percentage and you

1908
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 1: get into that and even the playing field, like I

1909
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 1: don't need them to complete seventy percent of his passes

1910
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 1: that they're all like dumped downs to Brandon Bolden. Yeah,

1911
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:57,639
Speaker 1: I'll give you. I'll give you two things though. I

1912
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:01,040
Speaker 1: think the passes up the seam, yep, those one. That's

1913
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 1: something that they were harry in camp. They were harry

1914
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 1: during the season. And I think doing a better job

1915
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 1: of identifying the blitz, especially pre snap. I think there

1916
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 1: were a lot of who good ones for free runners.

1917
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:13,640
Speaker 1: There are a lot of free runners. I mean I

1918
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 1: actually caught a little of the Tampa Bay game. It

1919
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 1: was on this weekend. I just chilling watching a little

1920
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,839
Speaker 1: bit of that. But Joe tryon and it's exactly right.

1921
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:24,639
Speaker 1: The steel trap, right, I mean, you know, but those

1922
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 1: kind of plays where you know, he's got to know

1923
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 1: when that guy's coming and either has to get him

1924
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 1: blocked or has to get the ball out quicker. So

1925
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I think those are experience things. The same

1926
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 1: thing though, that's something that popped up early and it

1927
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 1: lingered through the whole season. Jack and and Aba says,

1928
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:40,680
Speaker 1: according to the Draft Scout website, Camera Groan ran a

1929
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 1: four four five forty. That's good. That's pretty fast for it. Dude,

1930
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:48,799
Speaker 1: that's good linebacker. That is fast. Um duct tape Sam,

1931
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: but can I make it quick? Can I make it?

1932
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 1: Just a quid interjection? Because they asked him about that

1933
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 1: yesterday and he said, studying it's really about knowing what's

1934
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:00,640
Speaker 1: going to happen before you know, film study, understanding what

1935
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 1: the offense is doing and anticipating it. And that's how

1936
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 1: you play fast. So it's you know, you can say whatever.

1937
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 1: He can run a four two. If he doesn't see

1938
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 1: it coming before it's coming, it doesn't really matter. So

1939
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 1: he has the speed. It's Kenny process it and Kenny

1940
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 1: gnticipation ahead of instincts. Duct Sam says, first of all,

1941
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 1: it was really great to hear Eric receives such a

1942
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,680
Speaker 1: well deserved send off last week. Secondly, we need to

1943
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 1: generate some buzz for Dante Scarnekia to be inducted into

1944
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 1: the Patriots Hall of Fame immediately. No one deserves it more,

1945
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,879
Speaker 1: can't Craft pull executive privilege and select him for induction

1946
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 1: right away. And finally, it's understandable that everyone is freaking

1947
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:39,639
Speaker 1: out about the lack of an offensive play caller. At

1948
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 1: this point, it's still May, and I'm more concerned with

1949
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 1: how the offensive line will be rebuilt. Even with the

1950
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 1: selection of Strange. It seems like the importance of this

1951
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 1: group is being overlooked past protection, run blocking, etc. Well,

1952
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 1: this year's O line be better than last year's. I

1953
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't I don't know, I don't know.

1954
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 1: I think again, health huge um, But you know, how

1955
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 1: does Michael and when you look at right guard his

1956
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,879
Speaker 1: natural position, and how does how does Cole Strange assimilate?

1957
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 1: If if cold Strange comes in, it plays very well.

1958
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 1: And Michael and when you really, you know, finally finds

1959
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,600
Speaker 1: where he can blossom fully at right guard, then you know,

1960
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,679
Speaker 1: maybe if Trump Brown and Isaiah Win are hurting out

1961
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 1: and they're just impossible, like you, I would say, I mean,

1962
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 1: if you're asking an opinion, I would say, when you

1963
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 1: will not be as good as Shack Mason. I think

1964
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 1: Shack Mason's a really good player. I think that Cole

1965
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 1: Strange will be better than taught Ted Carriss because I

1966
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 1: think Ted Carriss was sort of a sixth offensive lineman

1967
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 1: for a good for a good offensive line. I think

1968
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 1: he stepped in last year did a nice job because

1969
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: of when you struggled and they needed him out there.

1970
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 1: But I don't know, like I don't know for sure

1971
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:52,800
Speaker 1: if that's gonna unfold. And the biggest question is the

1972
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:54,759
Speaker 1: one that might hit on the you know, the two tackles.

1973
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 1: Are they going to be able to play close to

1974
01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 1: the full season if they play sixteen, if they play

1975
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 1: team games, if they played most of the games, your

1976
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 1: offensive line at worst will be as good as it

1977
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 1: was last year. Marks and Bolton, what's up? Mark? Hi,

1978
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 1: guys and girls. I think the Pages do have an

1979
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 1: X factor on offense, and that's Thornton. You know, prior

1980
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 1: to the draft there was talk of trading up for

1981
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams, and in order to do that it would

1982
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 1: have been a first, a second, and a fourth something

1983
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:32,680
Speaker 1: along those lines that when you compare those two players

1984
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:38,679
Speaker 1: just physical traits, Thornton comes out. Okay. He's actually six

1985
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,240
Speaker 1: two and a half, so almost the full ins caller

1986
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 1: then than Williams. His wingspans a couple of inches large longer,

1987
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 1: his forty times at four point two eight. Who played

1988
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 1: better faster? Pardon me? Who played better? Well? I mean,

1989
01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 1: if not like Thornton had a teams bad year, he had,

1990
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:05,720
Speaker 1: you know, half of the production that Williams did in

1991
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:09,759
Speaker 1: a league that is significantly better look in today's NFL.

1992
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:15,479
Speaker 1: In today's NFL, it's not uncommon for a rookie wide

1993
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 1: receiver to come in and make an immediate impact on

1994
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 1: their team. But Thornton isn't of the pedigree that those

1995
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:23,800
Speaker 1: guys are that do. I just think, you know, trying

1996
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 1: to talk to themselves. I'm hopeful for him, but I'm

1997
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:30,200
Speaker 1: not counting. Maybe Jamison Williams never recovers from his torn

1998
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 1: a c L and never never like regains the explosiveness

1999
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 1: that made him a special player last year. But to

2000
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:39,600
Speaker 1: compare what Jamison Williams did at Alabama to what this

2001
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 1: kid did at Baylor in a league with little to

2002
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,679
Speaker 1: no defense. To Marry made that point during the draft,

2003
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 1: I think it was a good one. I don't know

2004
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 1: how you can compare the two. I really don't. Well, like,

2005
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 1: maybe he won't be the same. Maybe the torn a

2006
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 1: c L is going to ruin his career. I don't know,

2007
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 1: but it seems to me like a lot of guys,

2008
01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 1: you know, return from that stuff. Now I'm with you, guys,

2009
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting a lot. I mean, I think he

2010
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 1: has a like a niche of having speed on the

2011
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:07,720
Speaker 1: outside and go out there. I mean is that. I

2012
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 1: don't remember exactly how they use Bethel Johnson, but yeah,

2013
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:14,759
Speaker 1: some of it I see, like go on the outside,

2014
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,719
Speaker 1: go deep, go yeah, run past that guy. We're gonna

2015
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:19,559
Speaker 1: throw it to you a couple of times, you know,

2016
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:23,679
Speaker 1: maybe a month. And if Bethel Johnson, to his credit

2017
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:26,680
Speaker 1: earlier in his career, made the most of those opportunities

2018
01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 1: he caught, he caught a few of those, and they

2019
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 1: were big parts of games at times. Um, you know,

2020
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 1: if I think if Thornton can be that kind of

2021
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,639
Speaker 1: guy immediately, that would be an X factor just like

2022
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 1: it was it Mark. I think, just like Mark said, yeah, uh,

2023
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 1: Mike writes in as of right now, I assume Bentley

2024
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:49,680
Speaker 1: will be the starting inside linebacker, a lock that Ouche

2025
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 1: will be next to him. No, if not, who would

2026
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 1: you prefer? And why I'm not gonna say who. I mean,

2027
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 1: I don't prefer I think it would be McMillan would

2028
01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 1: be the top, the top option probably or mac Wilson

2029
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 1: one of those, one of those guys. Maybe mcgrow maybe

2030
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 1: Fred You're a guy, I mean, I think, I just

2031
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder more, how are they how are

2032
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:10,200
Speaker 1: they dealing with the edges? I mean, I I think

2033
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 1: signs are probably pointing Ouch is just going to be

2034
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 1: kind of a third down guy. That's probably Can he

2035
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 1: not play? Like like Jude on, you don't you just

2036
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 1: don't think he's good enough. I don't think he's I

2037
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:23,599
Speaker 1: don't think he's stout. I mean, I just I don't

2038
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 1: think he has I don't think he has a position

2039
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 1: on defense. He didn't have a position. That's what Michigan.

2040
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 1: They've been messing with him as an off the ball

2041
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 1: linebacker and an edge and I mean even yesterday, he's

2042
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:37,800
Speaker 1: kind of floating from different spots. I mean, and like,

2043
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, not like I still think he's valuable if

2044
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:41,600
Speaker 1: he comes to the third down and is and is

2045
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 1: a pain in the butt as a pass rusher and

2046
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 1: gets some juice and gets heat on the quarterback. But again,

2047
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:51,120
Speaker 1: watching the Tampa Bay game last last weekend. You know

2048
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 1: he's out there, but you didn't see any of the

2049
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 1: stuff that some people were writing about during training camp

2050
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 1: where he's all over the place and he's making plays.

2051
01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:04,839
Speaker 1: He's just, um you people who I think of Oucha

2052
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 1: as an edge guy like Judeon, But I kind of

2053
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 1: agree with Mike. I don't know if he's good enough

2054
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 1: to fill that role. I think he might just be

2055
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 1: a situational third down pass. Sure you have him moving forward? Yeah,

2056
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:20,599
Speaker 1: you can't tell me. We gotta play tennessee josh Ucha

2057
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 1: first down on the edge, Like I just I don't

2058
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 1: see that. I don't see that happening. Sulman in the

2059
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 1: Bay Area was thinking about this and I realized it's

2060
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 1: way too early as a discussion. If Matt Jones plays

2061
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:35,639
Speaker 1: subpart during the season, not to the extent that he's

2062
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 1: making game deciding mental errors, but rather mechanics look off

2063
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 1: and looks lost, do you think it's more of an

2064
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 1: indictment on Jones or Joe Judge and also vice versa.

2065
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:47,680
Speaker 1: Let's say Jones plays better than he did as a

2066
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 1: rookie and making throws he didn't last year, do you

2067
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 1: think it'll be more credit to Jones or towards Judge.

2068
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 1: I know it's way too early, but just wanted to

2069
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 1: discuss as I was wondering about it. I've seen some

2070
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:02,920
Speaker 1: hot takes online saying that Judge could derail Jones's progress,

2071
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:06,679
Speaker 1: But I say, let's pump the brakes a bit. I don't.

2072
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 1: I would put both on Jones. Yeah, if he if

2073
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:12,680
Speaker 1: he's worse, I blame him, and if he's better, I

2074
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 1: credit him. I think it's the player, but I think

2075
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 1: if he's worse, you need to I mean, not to

2076
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 1: single out Joe Judge, but I think the operation would

2077
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 1: have to be part of it because I think on paper,

2078
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 1: they've you know, have familiar and new pieces around him there.

2079
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 1: I mean, there should be enough there for him to

2080
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 1: be able to make some strides. I don't know if

2081
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 1: he's going to be a top five quarterback in the league,

2082
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 1: but the pieces are there for him. It is where

2083
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 1: the numbers won't necessarily. What I think that they did

2084
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 1: really well last year when their offense was at its best,

2085
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 1: was all of a sudden, you're just looking, It's like,

2086
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 1: how did that guy get wide open? That's like at

2087
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:48,760
Speaker 1: least part on Josh, you know, And I think It's

2088
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 1: also part on Mac because I think he understands what

2089
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 1: he's doing. I think he has an idea of how

2090
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 1: to play the position, and he knows what's going to

2091
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,800
Speaker 1: be available and when. For the most part, Mike is right.

2092
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 1: He needs to approve on some the recognition things with

2093
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 1: reading blitzes and knowing where those runaway rushers are coming from,

2094
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:08,160
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But how many times last year you

2095
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:09,720
Speaker 1: just say like, wow, you know, how did they just

2096
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 1: get Kendrick Born wide open on a deep cross? There

2097
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:15,519
Speaker 1: was nobody within twenty yards of him. If you see

2098
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 1: a lot of those plays like that again this year,

2099
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 1: Joe Judge will deserve or whoever will deserve credit for that,

2100
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 1: just like Josh got credit for it last year. But

2101
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 1: at the same time, you got to find a way

2102
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 1: to make some plays. It's not all the schemes fault

2103
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:32,640
Speaker 1: if you suddenly they're misfiring, you know, on passes that

2104
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 1: need to be completed. And even aside from just the

2105
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,639
Speaker 1: individual plays, I think that like the Cleveland game felt

2106
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:39,640
Speaker 1: like the only time where we got them on their

2107
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:42,519
Speaker 1: heels and best game. We're just dealing and everything's kind

2108
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:44,519
Speaker 1: of working like you know, the other games, even that

2109
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,400
Speaker 1: they won. It was fits and starts, and you know

2110
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 1: they're all right. Yeah, he wasn't throwing to just guys

2111
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 1: that were unattended to in that game. He was fitting

2112
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 1: into tight windows. The hunter Henry passed the one down

2113
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 1: the seam to Feeling it to Born for the touchdown.

2114
01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:59,720
Speaker 1: I mean he had some tough throws in that game.

2115
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:04,560
Speaker 1: Not easy dump offs, they would some tough throws. Um,

2116
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 1: let's see. Anthony writes in the following players are all

2117
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 1: eligible for the Patriots all the fame the same year.

2118
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:14,400
Speaker 1: Who are the finalists and who gets in? Bill, Tom,

2119
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 1: and Gronk. I think Tom, those would be the three finalists. Yeah,

2120
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 1: those are the three finalists. Yeah, I think Tom would

2121
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:24,760
Speaker 1: get in. Yeah, yeah, me too. But you never know

2122
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,880
Speaker 1: with with the fan voting enough, are there enough fans

2123
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:29,920
Speaker 1: turned off by Tom? Yeah it might be Bill to

2124
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 1: vote for Bill first. We'll see the next year. But

2125
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 1: I think there's that as many fans turned off from

2126
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:38,639
Speaker 1: Bill that are Patriots fans at least if you listen

2127
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 1: to this show. Oh my god, so I think. But

2128
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 1: I think Tom gets in. I think then Bill, then

2129
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 1: if you'd asked, like summer twenty nineteen, it would have been,

2130
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 1: no question, But I think as things have unfolded with

2131
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 1: his retirement and people, what do you think it should be.

2132
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 1: I think it should be Tom, Bill Gronk. I think

2133
01:46:56,400 --> 01:47:01,960
Speaker 1: he should be Tom. Yeah. Bill. But it's as Bell says,

2134
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 1: it's it's about the player. It is. Yeah, pretty sash

2135
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 1: that it. Rashad's in Baltimore. What's up? Rashad? Hey, what's up?

2136
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 1: What's up? And I guess, speaking of speaking on that,

2137
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 1: before I get to my thing, I would definitely go

2138
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 1: Tom bild and Brown just because it's like, I mean,

2139
01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:24,880
Speaker 1: I know, without both, but definitely without Tom what without

2140
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:29,240
Speaker 1: the quarterback? Yeah? But but my my thing what I

2141
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 1: want to talk about is defense. I know you guys

2142
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:34,679
Speaker 1: were talking about Mac Jones and like gear two jumps

2143
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 1: and stuff, But my thing is I want the defense

2144
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 1: just to take a jump. So whether it is that

2145
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:47,160
Speaker 1: forsons turnovers, maybe finishing sacks, maybe I mean, maybe they

2146
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 1: can stop the run on third down for one. Like,

2147
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm just looking for little things that the defense can

2148
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:54,640
Speaker 1: do to take the first step. And I want to

2149
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 1: know what what if some things that you guys think

2150
01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:01,360
Speaker 1: they could do up. I I'm only kidding. I'm being snarky.

2151
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I mean, this is more concerning

2152
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 1: to me than the offensive coordinator. That thing. I mean,

2153
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:10,080
Speaker 1: I just you know, you look at who's out there.

2154
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:12,360
Speaker 1: It's not the it's not the same guys. It's not

2155
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 1: the same guys anymore. They're young, unproven guys. I think

2156
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 1: a lot of it's just going to depend on the

2157
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:20,360
Speaker 1: safety group and how Jabroll Pepper's and Adrian Phillips and

2158
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger, how that kind of trail guys. I mean,

2159
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 1: there's a million things you should be looking for in defense.

2160
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 1: Here's one thing. How many times last year did we

2161
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 1: see Dante hi Tower just like standing up and being

2162
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:35,400
Speaker 1: completely out of the play. Now, you know, we said,

2163
01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 1: well he's really lost a step. A lot of that, though,

2164
01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 1: is just they were lined up wrong. They just the

2165
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 1: other team saw something and he was just in the

2166
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 1: wrong place. You know, I'd like to like limit those things,

2167
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 1: those communication mishaps on defense where you know, the hole

2168
01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:58,599
Speaker 1: just opens up and a guy runs for forty yards

2169
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:02,160
Speaker 1: because you were just out of position for that play

2170
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:05,639
Speaker 1: for that Look, let's let's eliminate that. Let's start there

2171
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:07,439
Speaker 1: and then and that's a that's a great point for it,

2172
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 1: and then you know it's and he's a veteran who's

2173
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 1: been here, and it was playing with other veterans who

2174
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:14,040
Speaker 1: have been here, and now you have guys that I

2175
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:16,600
Speaker 1: haven't been here and aren't veterans and and don't know that.

2176
01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:19,880
Speaker 1: So you know, I think hoping for that is is great,

2177
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 1: but it's all a big hope. And you know, I

2178
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:23,639
Speaker 1: just I mean, the simple question for me is when

2179
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 1: you look at the defense on paper, what's the strength? What?

2180
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 1: What does the strength of this defense? I don't know.

2181
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:30,760
Speaker 1: I don't know yet. I don't know what it is.

2182
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:32,640
Speaker 1: And and and and that's what I come back too.

2183
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:34,839
Speaker 1: I come back what is the strength with a defense?

2184
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 1: Like like if I can say we're good at one thing,

2185
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:40,679
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't really think of one thing, even

2186
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 1: something that's basic, like good at tangling. Like I can't

2187
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 1: think of one thing that I would say. I would

2188
01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 1: say third down. Um, I thought they were pretty good

2189
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 1: on third downs last year for the most part. Now

2190
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 1: there was some glaring exceptions. Um. You know, we talked

2191
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:58,880
Speaker 1: about where they ranked offensively last year. They were pretty high, Yeah,

2192
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 1: rankings point because they had those games that skewed it.

2193
01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:04,600
Speaker 1: What do you think they were defensively, like top of

2194
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:10,439
Speaker 1: the league overall defense, they were second in the league

2195
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:13,719
Speaker 1: seventeen point eight points a game. They tied for third

2196
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 1: and takeaways with thirty and they were eighth and third

2197
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 1: down percentage with thirty points one. I'm gonna say the

2198
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:22,639
Speaker 1: same thing then about those games. Skewed absolutely. Those games

2199
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:25,280
Speaker 1: skewed absolutely when push came to show they couldn't move

2200
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 1: the ball right and they couldn't stop the other team.

2201
01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:30,519
Speaker 1: I mean, from the time they came back from that buy. Yeah,

2202
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 1: we talked about it. It was just that if that

2203
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 1: last four or five stretch, it were games out of

2204
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:37,479
Speaker 1: five weeks, it looked like a different team, but it

2205
01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:40,840
Speaker 1: was also a different opponents. They were playing better team,

2206
01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:43,800
Speaker 1: closer to full strength, right, and it was extremes when

2207
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:46,160
Speaker 1: you'd play a bad team, they get shut out or

2208
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, absolutely it was fifty to nothing, right, you know,

2209
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 1: and then you'd have a game where you can't get

2210
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 1: anything going and they don't have any answers. And again

2211
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:56,960
Speaker 1: that Tampa game, it's there's no plays in the backfield

2212
01:50:57,000 --> 01:50:59,599
Speaker 1: being made. There's nobody making plays behind the line of scrimmage.

2213
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 1: It's two yards down that might have been their best

2214
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 1: defensive performance of the year, the Tampa game. And I

2215
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:07,840
Speaker 1: think we all sort of looked at it at the

2216
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 1: time and like they dodged some bullets that night, right,

2217
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:15,000
Speaker 1: Tom wasn't really sharp. It was went ran all over them,

2218
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, So they had they had some issues in

2219
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 1: that game. And even even then, when it counted, they

2220
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:22,120
Speaker 1: scored I think the last three times, the last four

2221
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 1: times they had the ball when they had to score,

2222
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 1: they did. Um. But yeah, like I would agree with

2223
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:30,519
Speaker 1: it with Fred. The numbers will tell you they were

2224
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:34,120
Speaker 1: elite defensively last year, but they weren't. It's such an interesting,

2225
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:37,360
Speaker 1: just weird quirk. And I mean I keep looking at

2226
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:40,320
Speaker 1: that and you know that how do you resign that too,

2227
01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:43,760
Speaker 1: you know, because I mean, look, they it certainly ended bad.

2228
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:47,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't an absolute train wreck season. They had their moments.

2229
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:49,120
Speaker 1: But it's just hard to look at those stats and

2230
01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:52,719
Speaker 1: it does not match up with anything that you remember

2231
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:56,599
Speaker 1: because you're thinking of, you know, the four picks um,

2232
01:51:57,040 --> 01:52:00,280
Speaker 1: you know against the Jets. You're thinking of, you know,

2233
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:02,720
Speaker 1: finishing the game in Atlanta on the Thursday night with

2234
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 1: a shutout and picks in the last three plays. Of

2235
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:07,439
Speaker 1: the game. Remember they threw like three different quarterbacks on

2236
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:09,880
Speaker 1: the last player to get the last three We want

2237
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:12,639
Speaker 1: to start the postgame show, you know, like you think

2238
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:16,000
Speaker 1: those those kinds of games in a seventeen game season

2239
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 1: really skew the numbers. But like Fred points out, often

2240
01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 1: when you don't force a punt, the proof is in

2241
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 1: the play. In two of the last what five games,

2242
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 1: you didn't even force a punt. And remember you also

2243
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 1: had a game even force a field goal in the play,

2244
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 1: you know, the win game in Buffalo. That that'll help

2245
01:52:33,439 --> 01:52:36,720
Speaker 1: you to use their numbers. Totally weird outlier kind of

2246
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:38,760
Speaker 1: a game. They can't really and they played well in

2247
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:40,760
Speaker 1: some of those games like that, Like I thought the

2248
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:43,559
Speaker 1: first Jets game they played, I mean, they played reasonably

2249
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 1: well defensively in that game, you know, even though Zach

2250
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 1: Wilson threw the ball to them a couple of times.

2251
01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 1: But you know that doesn't mean they didn't play well. Yeah,

2252
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 1: but it is, it's it kind of skews it a

2253
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:57,639
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, I mean, listen, if we're gonna listen

2254
01:52:57,640 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 1: to Bill, real football starts at thanks get right, and

2255
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 1: that's when they fell down. So that's what we're left

2256
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 1: with you know, years in a row. Right, So that's

2257
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 1: let's forget about all the other stuff. We got room

2258
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 1: to improve here. You know, if we go into this

2259
01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:14,800
Speaker 1: season thinking all that's seventeen point eight blowing to game

2260
01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:17,200
Speaker 1: there number two, they got a good defense, then you're

2261
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:20,719
Speaker 1: whistling past the graveyard. You know, we've got to see

2262
01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:26,160
Speaker 1: marked improvement in several areas on defense. I in past years,

2263
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 1: have you know, been worried more about the offense than

2264
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:31,920
Speaker 1: the defense? This year, as of right now, I am

2265
01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:33,840
Speaker 1: more worried about the defense the offense. I think the

2266
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:36,920
Speaker 1: offense is going to be pretty good. Yeah, I'm with you.

2267
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:40,479
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I really curious how the defense comes

2268
01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:43,400
Speaker 1: together and and and how how do the competitive periods

2269
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 1: between the two look? I mean, last year you got

2270
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:49,080
Speaker 1: Dante Higtower's screwing with Mac Jones dropping out into holes

2271
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 1: and you know, picking them off, and Kylie Annoy picking

2272
01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 1: them off, and you know, all those veterans messing with

2273
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. It's different this year. And and and you know,

2274
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 1: if if I don't know how we're gonna feel if

2275
01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:00,280
Speaker 1: Mac Jones goes out there and he's lighting up the

2276
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:03,160
Speaker 1: defense like we're good but are we gonna be able

2277
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 1: to stop anybody? Ernest writes in from East Hardwick, Vermont.

2278
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:11,200
Speaker 1: I have not heard this suggestion, but what if Brian

2279
01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 1: Hoyer called the plays? He might be better do a

2280
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 1: better job than the other options based on what because

2281
01:54:20,360 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 1: he's Brian Hoyer and he has those funky little hats

2282
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 1: and they do he knows the offense like the back

2283
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 1: of his hand in the past of the day yesterday. Nice,

2284
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 1: poor Briane. It just wants play like you know. No, no, no,

2285
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 1: we don't want him. Make him a coach Brian Hoyer.

2286
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:43,320
Speaker 1: Um no, you'll keep thinking out of the box. Um,

2287
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 1: let's see, further out of the box than a collaborative

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01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 1: with like five guys involved in the process, right from

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01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 1: more out of the box than that, Tony writes in

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01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:54,960
Speaker 1: question for mister Hollywood deuce. Ever since I noticed this trend,

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01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 1: I have wondered, is it a written or unwritten rule

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01:54:58,440 --> 01:55:01,720
Speaker 1: that the major networks all pre one specific kind of show.

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01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:07,200
Speaker 1: NBC does all workplace comedies, CBS does terrible studio audience comedies,

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01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:12,120
Speaker 1: FOX does animation or adult comedy. ABC does family sitcoms.

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01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:15,600
Speaker 1: Is there some directive that these studios have to follow

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01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 1: or is it just a case of each network having

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01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:20,960
Speaker 1: found a formula that work for one show and decided

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01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:24,680
Speaker 1: to replicate it forever. Yeah, that's a really good question. Um. Yeah,

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01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 1: each network kind of has their own vibe and how

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01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 1: they want to do things. So when we would develop shows,

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01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:32,320
Speaker 1: we would you know, have slight tweaks for things. So

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01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 1: like the Fox version of the show was certainly different

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01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:38,680
Speaker 1: than what the ABC Family or ABC version of the

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01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:40,640
Speaker 1: show would be. But I think there's a little bit

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01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:43,320
Speaker 1: of directive. I mean, I think it's also it's copycat league.

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01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 1: So there's a there's a hit, there's this is Us,

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01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:46,800
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you've got a bunch

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01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 1: of acoustic guitar melodramas on TV. Even when I was

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01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 1: a kid, like you had the Munsters and Adam's Family,

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01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:58,200
Speaker 1: you had Hogan's Heroes, Mikhael's Navy, you know, you had

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01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 1: I dream Agini, you had Bewitched, you know, so you had, yeah,

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01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:05,080
Speaker 1: the counter of each one, and I mean it was

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01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:07,520
Speaker 1: like then there were two stations, Yeah right, well and

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01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 1: then we're you know, and then there were four. But

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01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, like the single cam kind of revolution that

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01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 1: happened and you know, the mid two thousands, which was

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01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:16,760
Speaker 1: really when I was in the think of it. That

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01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:19,120
Speaker 1: changed things too, because it went from you know, all

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01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:22,880
Speaker 1: the comedies were sitcoms, and all the dramas were you know, procedurals, medicals,

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01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 1: those kind of things, and then you know, then you

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01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:27,920
Speaker 1: started getting single cam like you know, the Office was

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01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 1: was offshoot of the BBC one. Um, so then it

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01:56:30,760 --> 01:56:32,360
Speaker 1: kind of blurred the lines a little bit. Now you've

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01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:34,880
Speaker 1: got like a modern family where I mean, what camera

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01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:36,760
Speaker 1: are they talking to? You know, so it didn't have

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01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 1: to be a sitcom. Then they took the laugh track

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01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:40,520
Speaker 1: out it, so I mean it did evolve a little bit,

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01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:44,200
Speaker 1: and certainly networks, you know, he evolved as well as

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01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 1: to what they were looking for. But I mean, as

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01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 1: he laid it out, it's pretty dead on I mean ABC.

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01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:50,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, Paul, you watched a ton of TV,

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01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:52,360
Speaker 1: like you could probably flip a show on and probably

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01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 1: be like, this seems like an ABC show to me.

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01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 1: I never really thought of it, but yeah, um, CBS

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01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:01,640
Speaker 1: definitely doesn't. Does a CBS skew to an old their audience? Yeah, traditionally,

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01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 1: And that's where I was, I mean, that's where I

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01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 1: was based from twenty ten to twenty seventeen, so we

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01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 1: did most of our work with CBS, which I loved,

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01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:11,240
Speaker 1: I mean because their notes at CBS Wendy Trilling like

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01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 1: it was only ever we didn't quite get this joke

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01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 1: and logically it didn't track. And I just like, you know,

2342
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:18,680
Speaker 1: the writers and everybody appreciate that they're good notes. You know.

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01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 1: Then you get into some of the other networks and

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01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:22,840
Speaker 1: they would start getting into story and it's like, this

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01:57:22,920 --> 01:57:24,960
Speaker 1: is a sitcom, Like why are we talking about the

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01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:27,840
Speaker 1: character's motivation here? Like just make us laugh that kind

2347
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:30,160
Speaker 1: of thing. So m but a real, real good question

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01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:33,240
Speaker 1: certainly has expanded and changed HBO, Netflix, Now you've just

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01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:36,000
Speaker 1: got so many shows of all different kinds of varieties.

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01:57:36,040 --> 01:57:38,560
Speaker 1: But at the core those those networks, that's that's what

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01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 1: it is. It's network television dead when in terms of

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01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:46,080
Speaker 1: primetime episodes, and they're gonna have to get to more

2353
01:57:46,160 --> 01:57:50,400
Speaker 1: like you know, game shows and all that, because how

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01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:53,200
Speaker 1: do you compete with what's going on on the independent

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01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 1: I think they're asking that same question to themselves right

2356
01:57:56,080 --> 01:57:58,560
Speaker 1: now and trying to figure it out. Yeah, I mean,

2357
01:57:59,080 --> 01:58:02,840
Speaker 1: that's the only one that watches networks, no questions, no question.

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01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:04,920
Speaker 1: But there does still seem to be a lot of

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01:58:05,000 --> 01:58:06,920
Speaker 1: new shows that are coming out. Oh yeah, well they're

2360
01:58:06,920 --> 01:58:09,280
Speaker 1: still but they're still producing them. I know. It just

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01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:11,800
Speaker 1: used to be so cyclical where you'd have the upfronts

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01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 1: in May, they'd pick what they're gonna pick up, you know,

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01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:16,640
Speaker 1: you you'd sell your pilots in the late summer, you'd

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01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:18,120
Speaker 1: be producing them in the spring. I mean, it was

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01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:19,600
Speaker 1: just such a cycle to it. And now it's just

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01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 1: it's just the expectation of audience share has gone down,

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01:58:23,120 --> 01:58:27,160
Speaker 1: Like what was right twenty years ago? You can't get that,

2368
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:29,800
Speaker 1: so now you have to, you know, lower your expectations.

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01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:31,920
Speaker 1: So true, so true. I mean we lived and lived

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01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:33,640
Speaker 1: and died by all that. You know, how much do

2371
01:58:33,680 --> 01:58:35,560
Speaker 1: you hold of your lead in? And you know, what

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01:58:35,600 --> 01:58:37,280
Speaker 1: did you do in the demo? And all I mean

2373
01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 1: questions like can you you know, like you're too young,

2374
01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 1: but like there's no one that didn't watch All in

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01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 1: the Family. Everybody watched All in the Family. You go

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01:58:47,320 --> 01:58:50,000
Speaker 1: the next everybody know what happened, you know, like certain

2377
01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:53,000
Speaker 1: shows like that, everybody watched it, right, you know, and

2378
01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 1: and now go walk in, who's seen it everybody. And

2379
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:59,120
Speaker 1: now you're like, did you watch the show on Hulu? Uh? Like,

2380
01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't even know what you're talking about. Like, but

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01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:03,480
Speaker 1: now we get back to our cluster communities that go

2382
01:59:03,560 --> 01:59:06,160
Speaker 1: back to the movie theater to watch the TV show.

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01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 1: We tied it all all right, We're comfort fall circle.

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01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:11,560
Speaker 1: That's gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.

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01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:15,600
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Thursday with another edition. We won't

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Speaker 1: know any more ota stuff that's next week, but I'm

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01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:21,480
Speaker 1: sure we'll playbook with John Rook tomorrow. So that's great,

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01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 1: great news. So we'll see you Thursday. Thank you for

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