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Speaker 4: into it right now. Jeff Albrick, the twenty first head
Speaker 4: coach in franchise history, What did you make of the
Speaker 4: dismissal and where do we go from here? Of obviously
Speaker 4: Robert Sala finishes his Jets ten year, twenty and thirty six.
Speaker 2: Well, because I'm not in the building, like often, I
Speaker 2: don't know what the vibe is right, and you know
Speaker 2: clearly what he thought the vibe was off and maybe
Speaker 2: thought this team needed a spark. This is a talented
Speaker 2: roster that's underachieving. But if you look across the league,
Speaker 2: everybody's underachieved. I feel like this team just hasn't had
Speaker 2: the collective experience and they're learning lessons on the fly
Speaker 2: and we're watching them, you know, figure out how to
Speaker 2: make the sauce and cutting it. They south chef and
Speaker 2: all the ingredients, they haven't yet to put them in
Speaker 2: the pot and measure right. And I think that's where
Speaker 2: we're at. And you know, clearly, when you think about
Speaker 2: this regime last year, you can think about the intensity
Speaker 2: and in patience, right, because this is supposed to be
Speaker 2: last year, so we already had to wait a year
Speaker 2: because when they got four games of it, So like
Speaker 2: it's pressure on everybody. There are either bus pipes or
Speaker 2: either make crazy diamonds. Then we're going to see if
Speaker 2: all Brick can kind of lead, and I'm interested to
Speaker 2: see how he leads and the impact that he can
Speaker 2: have on his team, the roster, the way that they
Speaker 2: go about business, the difference in how it looks in
Speaker 2: one week.
Speaker 4: It was certainly a move that sent shockways throughout the
Speaker 4: national full well it.
Speaker 5: Did, because it's so early, you know, and you know
Speaker 5: everybody's three and two or two and three. I mean,
Speaker 5: everybody's kind of jumbled up together. But you know they
Speaker 5: haven't They've missed opportunities to win games these last two weeks.
Speaker 5: I mean very winnable games. You lose at home, you
Speaker 5: can't score touchdowns, you're down the one yard line. Something's off.
Speaker 5: Maybe the spark is what you need. Maybe you need
Speaker 5: a different voice right now. Maybe there's things that can
Speaker 5: be fixed during the game, corrected during the game. Maybe
Speaker 5: you know, the owner things like he's got that choice.
Speaker 5: But I think right now it's really on the players.
Speaker 5: Like the players got I think they've got to get
Speaker 5: more out of practice than what we're seeing on the
Speaker 5: field on Sundays. And then I think that there's this
Speaker 5: team still has the defense is playing fantastic, but that's okay.
Speaker 3: Like it.
Speaker 5: Ultimately, it has to come together and you're gonna know it,
Speaker 5: you're gonna feel it. And I don't think that feeling
Speaker 5: that Bart's talking about is being demonstrated right now in
Speaker 5: the field. It sounds a little bit odd, I guess.
Speaker 5: But this team should be better. They should be better.
Speaker 5: The way the defense is playing, they should be better.
Speaker 5: They should have won these last two.
Speaker 4: And that's something that Woody Johnson made clear that he
Speaker 4: thinks this is one of the most talented rosters that
Speaker 4: he's had in the last twenty five years. Second, second
Speaker 4: or third, And Jeff Albris said everything's on the table,
Speaker 4: you know, no stone, no stone is gonna be left
Speaker 4: unturned as he looks at the entire operation.
Speaker 2: I mean, the tough thing is, I don't know if
Speaker 2: that if they're in today, today is what Wednesday? I
Speaker 2: don't know if they I don't know if.
Speaker 1: They come Yeah, this is Tuesday because it's a Monday
Speaker 1: night game.
Speaker 2: Right right, right, So I don't know if tomorrow is
Speaker 2: the first day where the team comes back. Yep, right,
Speaker 2: And you know you talk about hitting the ground running.
Speaker 2: You know you have to bring guys in you know,
Speaker 2: address the room, you know, let everybody know what's going
Speaker 2: on and what the new standard is. And the standard
Speaker 2: has to be the standard. You can't compromise. And whenever
Speaker 2: you have even though it's the same regime, you can
Speaker 2: have new emphasis. And I wonder what jeff aldbricks emphasis
Speaker 2: is going to be about. It's going to be about accountability,
Speaker 2: It's going to be about execution. You know, it could
Speaker 2: be about all right, and you know we'll see that
Speaker 2: because you know, everybody now is auditioning for playing time.
Speaker 2: Because I feel like, yeah, at this point, we're evaluating
Speaker 2: everything because we're if we're underachieving, then we have to
Speaker 2: analyze everything because everything contributes to a win or a loss.
Speaker 5: I've been a part of a team that fired their
Speaker 5: coach during the season and we had the interim head
Speaker 5: coach defense coordinator became the head coach.
Speaker 3: Very similar.
Speaker 5: I mean that first meeting, you come in and you
Speaker 5: want to see what the message like. First of all,
Speaker 5: everybody was shocked within the team that the move was made.
Speaker 5: So that's that. Then the new coach, Jeff you know,
Speaker 5: he's got to sit in front of the room. A
Speaker 5: lot of guys, you know, on offense. They're not around
Speaker 5: Jeff Aulbrick all the time, not in meetings with They
Speaker 5: know that he's the coordinator, they know that he's got
Speaker 5: a big role in the team, but they're not dealing
Speaker 5: with him day to day on the offense special teams.
Speaker 5: So it's the first time that collectively the team gets
Speaker 5: to hear Jeff's message, and he doesn't have a whole
Speaker 5: lot of time to.
Speaker 3: Think about it. Like he's a football coach.
Speaker 5: Coaches live in seven day life cycles, just like players do.
Speaker 5: They're all about game planning, preparation, making sure that the
Speaker 5: team is prepared for the game. Now he's got a
Speaker 5: much bigger role in addition to all those things he's got,
Speaker 5: but also he's got things decisions to make game day,
Speaker 5: you know, whether it's challenges okay, or we tick to
Speaker 5: the field goal we punted, like, all those decisions now
Speaker 5: are on him. So he's going to lean heavily on
Speaker 5: these other coordinators right now, but still game day, the
Speaker 5: spotlight's going to be on him Monday night in big
Speaker 5: moments and what you do because these games are being
Speaker 5: decided by a call, by a play, by a decision
Speaker 5: like you see how closest thing is in this league
Speaker 5: right now, the head coaches is under the microscope.
Speaker 1: He brings a lot of juice.
Speaker 4: Obviously, he's orchestrated a turnaround from the defense. Robert Sala
Speaker 4: stuck with him, and he credited Sala. He gave a
Speaker 4: lot of gratitude here in his first press conference as
Speaker 4: head coach, saying that I wouldn't be in this position
Speaker 4: without Robert. In twenty one, that defense took its lumps,
Speaker 4: but now four years later, this Jets defense continues to
Speaker 4: play at an elite level. So he has been the
Speaker 4: guy there calling the shots.
Speaker 1: But to bald these points, now.
Speaker 4: You have to look at the entire operation and game
Speaker 4: day is going to be completely different. One of the
Speaker 4: things that I thought was interesting is he said, likely
Speaker 4: no changes on the staff, but I have to look
Speaker 4: at roles and responsibilities, and that could mean offensive signal
Speaker 4: caller and defensive signal caller because Albrick was a guy.
Speaker 4: Obviously he's calling the plays with this defense. Does he
Speaker 4: call the plays on Monday Night?
Speaker 2: I mean, we see some guys who belie Ta Bowle
Speaker 2: still calls the defense. At least I believe you think
Speaker 2: about you know, I know, we don't think that Andy
Speaker 2: Reid calls the plays, but come on, so like, but
Speaker 2: you know these are veterans within that role.
Speaker 5: You talk about Joel McDermott calls the plays now, but
Speaker 5: you know he's got to make all those decisions.
Speaker 2: But you also talk about trying to call a play
Speaker 2: but then to challenge, not to challenge how many time
Speaker 2: outs do we have left? How can you handle all
Speaker 2: that in game administrative stuff as well and do that
Speaker 2: This is something that he's learning to do now. He
Speaker 2: doesn't have a preseason to learn it. He's got to
Speaker 2: do it right now. So does he hire additional staff
Speaker 2: to handle challenges? Does he delegate those type of responsibilities?
Speaker 2: And also the week leading up to now instead of
Speaker 2: going and doing his game plan, now I have to
Speaker 2: address the media. I got to listen to questions and
Speaker 2: all that type of stuff and address everybody. So like,
Speaker 2: it's a big responsibility and no matter what your one
Speaker 2: staff member down. So do you hire a staff member
Speaker 2: because Robert Sala had a his roles as well, which
Speaker 2: allowed everybody else to have the road is kind of
Speaker 2: like the next man up mentality. But then what you
Speaker 2: can't make sure that in this game, you know the
Speaker 2: difference between winning and losing so minute that you can
Speaker 2: you can't make sure that something slips through the cracks
Speaker 2: because simply we don't have enough people or manpower delegated
Speaker 2: to be able to make those decisions and go through
Speaker 2: the everything that has go through.
Speaker 4: If this defense would have continued its current trajectory this year,
Speaker 4: Ulbrich was gonna get head coaching jobs out there, and
Speaker 4: he might have landed a job. But as Bart's talking about, like, Okay,
Speaker 4: when you look at Monday night in the big picture,
Speaker 4: do you think that he should step away calm plays
Speaker 4: or you just don't have enough time on the defensive
Speaker 4: side of the ball. Because he coached the senior ball
Speaker 4: in Mobile, Alabama, and he since said, you know, if
Speaker 4: I'm the coach, I would look at it from a
Speaker 4: CEO type angle.
Speaker 3: It's hard to give up that duty.
Speaker 5: I mean, the guys are used to listening to his voice,
Speaker 5: listening to his reasoning, listening to his rallying cry when
Speaker 5: they need to do that.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: And if you remove himself from that, if somebody else
Speaker 5: does it, are you going to get the same effect
Speaker 5: that they have been getting. The defense has responded time
Speaker 5: and time again. You lose c J Mosley, Jamien Sherwood
Speaker 5: steps in playing great, you know, so Michael Carter goes down,
Speaker 5: comes in, so you you know, Jermaine Johnson goes down.
Speaker 5: Will McDonald you know, becomes a starter, becomes an impactful player,
Speaker 5: like you're seeing what you want to see. You want
Speaker 5: to see the next man up like without any drop off.
Speaker 5: And we've kind of seen that and so like he's
Speaker 5: had that effect and that that sort of you know,
Speaker 5: if you're looking for a head coach whatever, that's one
Speaker 5: of the things I would sell myself on.
Speaker 3: Now, are you ready to give that up?
Speaker 5: To be the CEO and look at everything that's you know,
Speaker 5: that's that's difficult decisions sometimes.
Speaker 2: Because you can have you can have the playbooks and
Speaker 2: all the plays, but it's about when to call them,
Speaker 2: why you call them. So you give that to somebody,
Speaker 2: and then what happens is somebody calls some things that
Speaker 2: you wouldn't call you an agree with. It doesn't work out,
Speaker 2: that's still your baby, you know. I mean, you have
Speaker 2: to be able to somebody has to earn the right
Speaker 2: to kind of take that away from me. So I
Speaker 2: can see him still having to call it. But then
Speaker 2: maybe delegate some other people to handle the challenges and
Speaker 2: stuff like that.
Speaker 5: I remember talking to Jeff last year before the Eagles game.
Speaker 5: If you remember in that game last year that they won, Well,
Speaker 5: you had no sauce, you had no DJ, you know,
Speaker 5: no card, You're down your top three corners.
Speaker 3: So I remember talking to him, like, what are you
Speaker 3: gonna do today, Jeff?
Speaker 5: And he starts laughing, you know, like he goes, well,
Speaker 5: you know, I don't think I can just you know,
Speaker 5: blitz the whole time. I got guys out there. There's
Speaker 5: never you know, from the practice squad got to hold
Speaker 5: up against aj.
Speaker 3: Brown and these guys. But he had a good he
Speaker 3: had a good plan.
Speaker 5: They took the ball away that day, they responded, and
Speaker 5: if they took four the ball away four times that
Speaker 5: day and so they were really responded in a situation
Speaker 5: that looked, you know, very very tough at the time.
Speaker 5: And so he's had that effect. He's had those moments,
Speaker 5: you know with his defense. To Bart's point, Uh, everybody
Speaker 5: has calls, everybody has blitzeres, the pressures when you call it,
Speaker 5: when you take that gamble, when's the right time to
Speaker 5: make this. He's got a good feel for it, And
Speaker 5: I don't know if you want to disturb that right now,
Speaker 5: right by the bigger duties that he has.
Speaker 2: That's the one concert right now as you can lean on,
Speaker 2: you can hang your hat on the defenses playing, and
Speaker 2: you don't. You don't want to disturb that and then
Speaker 2: to go fix that. So now that falls out of whack.
Speaker 2: So you just want to build with what's you're good at.
Speaker 2: I can see, in my opinion, I would just keep
Speaker 2: going and I would delegate some of the other things
Speaker 2: like helping move with challenges and administrative stuff that goes
Speaker 2: on during the game. Do we punt?
Speaker 3: Do we kick?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Because you know, maybe he
Speaker 2: can't address the whole defense when they come off the
Speaker 2: field because he hasn't pay attention to what's going on with,
Speaker 2: you know, the offensive side of the ball, what the
Speaker 2: down and distance is and all that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: What do you make of this that the Jets are
Speaker 1: two plays.
Speaker 4: Away from being four and one if sirline hits a
Speaker 4: field goal against the Broncos or your film breakdown that
Speaker 4: you put on the interwebs here recently, Garrett Wilson, it's never.
Speaker 3: One play, number one play.
Speaker 5: It just isn't like every good coach is going to
Speaker 5: tell you that, Okay, Greg misses a kick against Demver,
Speaker 5: we win the game. But like you could pick out
Speaker 5: ten plays where that game was decided they had well
Speaker 5: first of goal with the one they didn't score, is
Speaker 5: that is that Greg's zerline's fault. You know, you could
Speaker 5: look at the Tennessee game and will Levis, you know,
Speaker 5: just you know they're going into making fourteen to nothing
Speaker 5: and he gives.
Speaker 3: The ball back.
Speaker 5: You know, so you can always do that. That's easy
Speaker 5: to do, But you can look at it the other
Speaker 5: way around too. In games that were tight, they could
Speaker 5: have lost those games just as easily.
Speaker 4: Sometimes offensively, we're saying the defense is where it's supposed
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 1: They're playing an elite level.
Speaker 4: They just held in Minnesota well under its averages. They
Speaker 4: give up sixteen points, it came up with two takeaways.
Speaker 4: Quincy Williams damn nearly scored on that fumble recovery. He
Speaker 4: had accles making a huge interception. That gives you the
Speaker 4: ball and plus territory. It gives you an opportunity to
Speaker 4: win offensively. What's happened in the last two games because
Speaker 4: the Jets really had a complete effort against the New
Speaker 4: England Patriots, were unable to build on that against the Broncos,
Speaker 4: limited to three field goals, and then last week plagued
Speaker 4: by a slow start in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: How does this change?
Speaker 2: I feel like right now they have to identify who
Speaker 2: they are and what's their philosophy, right, because I feel
Speaker 2: like this is an offense with no identity and they
Speaker 2: really have nothing to hang their hats on, like this
Speaker 2: is what we do well? Right? They have to figure
Speaker 2: out what we do well and how do we build
Speaker 2: on that and then expand on that and grow that.
Speaker 2: They have to figure out who they are, right and
Speaker 2: they have to start demanding a little bit more from
Speaker 2: each of their players to kind of pull in the
Speaker 2: same direction. Can't have mischees, you know at this point.
Speaker 2: You know how you talk about rookies like, oh man,
Speaker 2: you know, middle of the season, you're not a rookie anymore. Well,
Speaker 2: this offense is, you know, five weeks in, right, you
Speaker 2: can't say, well, you know, we just got together. It's
Speaker 2: time to start not having miscommunications. I have procedure problems
Speaker 2: starting to time to tighten the screws down. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying back the hatches, Well.
Speaker 4: How does Albrook put his stamp on the offense because
Speaker 4: he's coming from the other side of the ball and
Speaker 4: the staff is the same, how do you put your
Speaker 4: stamp on it now?
Speaker 5: Well, I think every head coach that comes from the
Speaker 5: defensive side of the ball wants to be a good
Speaker 5: running football team. I mean, after five weeks they're thirty
Speaker 5: second in the league, like they're last.
Speaker 3: Nobody wants to be last in any category.
Speaker 5: But you know, when you have two backs of Breest
Speaker 5: Hall and Braylan Allen's ability, you have to look at
Speaker 5: this offensive line right now and say they got to
Speaker 5: play better. But why why aren't they playing well enough
Speaker 5: in the run game right now? There's too many negative runs.
Speaker 5: There's too many runs aren't getting any yards, and that
Speaker 5: shouldn't happen. And so like it starts out there, starts
Speaker 5: out there in the practice field, honestly, like, they've got
Speaker 5: to find three runs that they can hang their hat
Speaker 5: on against any defense and make them work, and they
Speaker 5: got to identify those. You got to identify. I'd go
Speaker 5: back and watch all the negative runs, all the players
Speaker 5: that have gone blown up because Aaron Rodgers has dropped
Speaker 5: back one hundred and eight times in the last two games.
Speaker 5: He's not gonna survive and they're not gonna win a
Speaker 5: lot of these games if they do that. They got
Speaker 5: to get back Bunce back of the offense, and they've
Speaker 5: got two backs that they got to get going, and
Speaker 5: I think that could go fix a lot of the
Speaker 5: roes on offense.
Speaker 4: Right now, the Jets a thirty second running football in
Speaker 4: the National Football I'm shocked by it because we spoke
Speaker 4: last year about the thirteen different offensive line combinations. You've
Speaker 4: had the same four guys up there. Old fashion news
Speaker 4: started the last couple of games.
Speaker 1: So maybe you get.
Speaker 4: Good news on the injury front with Morgan Moses, but
Speaker 4: you also a quarterback against a BILDI last year and
Speaker 4: you were still running the ball.
Speaker 1: Why aren't they running the ball right now?
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a change in philosophy. A
Speaker 2: lot of gaps games, I mean zone schemes. Maybe they
Speaker 2: got to consider that they got a bunch of dogs
Speaker 2: that are gap scheme guys. I love Tipmans of athletics
Speaker 2: has visibility to pull and get on the perimeter. I mean,
Speaker 2: you look at the most successful run games going on
Speaker 2: right now. Everything is about shift motions and angles, you know,
Speaker 2: and being able to block back and get the angles
Speaker 2: on people. You know. I think we've we've removed ourselves
Speaker 2: a little bit from the time where you just used
Speaker 2: to move men against their will. Think now it's about
Speaker 2: influencing or negative influencing the defenders and being able to
Speaker 2: get angles to move them out of the way and
Speaker 2: be able to create you know, seals where guys can
Speaker 2: have options, you know. So I would like, I.
Speaker 5: Think that philosophy is good Bart if you've already established
Speaker 5: that you can move the line of scrimmage and you
Speaker 5: can move bodies off the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't seen them try to move by saying
Speaker 2: everybody's going lateral. So I think I challenged him that
Speaker 2: because you brought in Simpson. That's what he did and
Speaker 2: customed to doing. In Baltimore. Morgan Moses was there as well,
Speaker 2: Tyron Smith. That run game him next to Zach Martin
Speaker 2: was a gap, you know, power scheme. So I don't
Speaker 2: know why they couldn't do it. And y'all, I would
Speaker 2: love to see the skipper package. I would only say
Speaker 2: skipper package because you know, Dan Skippers is probably the
Speaker 2: most famous tackle elgible guy and all in the NFL
Speaker 2: dealing with the playoffs that year. But you have a
Speaker 2: good one in fashion. So I mean I feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, when big yeah, when Morgan comes back instead
Speaker 2: of having a tight end out there. And I listen,
Speaker 2: it's funny because we're talking about this the other the
Speaker 2: day and we were talking about on my radio show.
Speaker 2: We were talking about, you know, Davante Adams and you
Speaker 2: know what that means, but also getting a nice nasty
Speaker 2: fullback out there, you know what I mean. I know
Speaker 2: you Bola is not bad, but you know, you think
Speaker 2: about guys like Ingle and stuff like that, like those
Speaker 2: guys are are are pivotal, right. It used to be
Speaker 2: a time where the fullback.
Speaker 5: With Patrick Ricard, yeah you know and Juice right well yeah,
Speaker 5: yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna let all the get out of here,
Speaker 1: get on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got herpike right now, he's got to take
Speaker 4: but the podcast is going to roll on. But he's
Speaker 4: a hey man, give me thirty seconds on this week's
Speaker 4: matchup against the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 5: Well look, I mean it's when you face Josh Allen,
Speaker 5: you're facing you know, a rare talent. Okay, Like there's
Speaker 5: so many different ways you can hurt you. But the
Speaker 5: Jets have also forced him to do a lot of turnovers.
Speaker 5: He's gonna make mistakes. He hasn't throw an interception up
Speaker 5: this year. He has the two lost fumbles like that,
Speaker 5: It would be good if you forced him into mistakes.
Speaker 5: And then I want to see the Jets really establish
Speaker 5: a run. I want to see them. This is the
Speaker 5: AFC East, all right, you got a division opponent. You
Speaker 5: know them as well as you know anybody in this
Speaker 5: whole business. Like it's time to like make this an
Speaker 5: emphasis and forget about Aaron's ability and his ability to
Speaker 5: throw all that. That's good. Let's start running the football.
Speaker 5: They've got two big backs. Let's see him working concert
Speaker 5: together and get that thing going. Because I think if
Speaker 5: you're gonna, if you're gonna get back on the winning
Speaker 5: track and you're gonna start stacking some wins at some
Speaker 5: point this season and make a play for the division.
Speaker 3: You got to run the ball a whole lot better.
Speaker 1: Baldy, great stuff. Shift change.
Speaker 4: You can take your mic off, and Bart and I
Speaker 4: are going to roll on here Official Tests podcast Footprints.
Speaker 1: How much do you love Wednesdays with Baldy by the way.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's always informative. They always have a good time. Man,
Speaker 2: we talk balls, man, that's my guy. Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So this week's matchup Phils. If you consider it,
Speaker 4: we talked about this on Jet's game Day, do you
Speaker 4: consider this a must win game for the Green and White,
Speaker 4: the one game be hind the Bills in the division.
Speaker 4: This is just a sixth game of the year. That
Speaker 4: means there's eleven games after this. You could be three
Speaker 4: and three tied with the Bills.
Speaker 1: If you lose, you're two and four.
Speaker 4: You're on a three game losing streak, and you're basically
Speaker 4: two and a half games behind the Bills.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean this is one of those games where you
Speaker 2: know you can say, hey, things hasn't gone our way,
Speaker 2: but we have an opportunity. But all the things that
Speaker 2: have going badly, how much better would we feel about
Speaker 2: ourselves and how much people people feel about this football
Speaker 2: team if we get a big win on Monday Night
Speaker 2: football in front of our peers in a divisional rivalry game.
Speaker 2: You know it's all right there in front of us.
Speaker 2: I think you know, they have an opportunity sometimes you
Speaker 2: got you can't really dwell on what happened and how
Speaker 2: you got here, but you have to, you know, be
Speaker 2: able to figure out, hey, that's how we get out.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a braveheart scene.
Speaker 4: Do you think the Jets are gonna get a jolt
Speaker 4: from a coaching change here?
Speaker 2: Well, I think it could, right, it could be a
Speaker 2: joe to energy right, new perspective. You know, guys who
Speaker 2: aren't playing, you'll see the opportunity to have a clean slate,
Speaker 2: to be able to play tribute and you know, just
Speaker 2: the philosophy, something to rally around, and you know, athletes
Speaker 2: and teams always, you know, thrive or look for the
Speaker 2: opportunities to have some of the rally around and pull together.
Speaker 2: Because right now everybody on the outside is is poking holes,
Speaker 2: you know, at this team, at this organization. So the
Speaker 2: only thing you can do is go to the bunker mentalities.
Speaker 4: How does that resonate in the locker room? Because you
Speaker 4: get back from London, you get a couple of hours
Speaker 4: sleep Sunday, it's Monday, and then you find.
Speaker 1: Out Tuesday that there is a coaching change.
Speaker 2: If your defensive guy a shot, well, well you know
Speaker 2: we've lost guys more carrier guys during the season, during training,
Speaker 2: I mean, during the BIE week and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But to lose a head coach, that's like your main
Speaker 2: voice that you hear. But really, your your closest relationships
Speaker 2: are with the coordinators and your position coaches. So from
Speaker 2: a football standpoint, I don't think it matters a lot
Speaker 2: because you know, it doesn't affect your daily preparation. Right,
Speaker 2: the same person that you listen to for an install,
Speaker 2: you're gonna see the same install group. Everything's gonna be
Speaker 2: the same. The difference is the team meetings, Right, You're
Speaker 2: not going to have that. You know that that relationship,
Speaker 2: I mean because when you go to practice, you're you're
Speaker 2: dealing with the coordinator. I mean, you might see the
Speaker 2: head coach, but you're not talking to the head coach. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what I mean, you're talking to the coordinator. Not a
Speaker 2: lot of one on one right, Right. You know, you're
Speaker 2: on this side, the offense on that side, and the
Speaker 2: head coach is behind the offense, so it's most of
Speaker 2: the one on one time. So I think they'll be
Speaker 2: fine from that standpoint, you know, But I'm sure it's
Speaker 2: guys here that you know we're here because Robert Solove
Speaker 2: was the head coach, and you know those relationships matter,
Speaker 2: so you worry about you know, how he's feeling his family.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you understand you
Speaker 2: have a job doing. You have to move forward.
Speaker 1: So Baldi wants the Jets to get the run.
Speaker 4: Game going got to you. You're there as well. What
Speaker 4: have you seen from Rogers so far?
Speaker 1: Through five games?
Speaker 4: Obviously the last couple of games a lot of dropbacks.
Speaker 4: If we talked about teams are blitzing the hell out
Speaker 4: of the Jets.
Speaker 1: He's taking a being less too.
Speaker 2: That's why you want to run the ball so he
Speaker 2: doesn't expose itself.
Speaker 4: But what's going on is the play action. You can't
Speaker 4: have play action unless you're running the ball. Well, can
Speaker 4: you pass the ball to set up the run? And
Speaker 4: also let's talk about present a motion.
Speaker 1: Where do you land with that? Is a guy who's
Speaker 1: defendedive before.
Speaker 4: Also from an offensive perspective, if you're looking at the
Speaker 4: Jets and you're looking at a cure for their ills
Speaker 4: right now, do you think they should be using more motion?
Speaker 2: I think so because it's just eyew wash. Right, you
Speaker 2: end up where you're going to end up, but it
Speaker 2: creates a distorted picture for the defense. The defense has
Speaker 2: to kind of break down past all the shifts motions
Speaker 2: and really see what's going on. But it forces them
Speaker 2: not to focus on the formation to play the Tennessee's
Speaker 2: I can't read all my keys if I'm looking at
Speaker 2: all these shifts and motions. But when I'm able to
Speaker 2: just line up, come out, and you're going through a
Speaker 2: long cadence and you're at the line of scrims in
Speaker 2: eighteen seconds, it gives me about ten seconds to look
Speaker 2: at the splits of the tackle, look at the posture
Speaker 2: of the guard, look at the depth of the running back,
Speaker 2: look at the splits of the ride receivers. It allows
Speaker 2: me to gather all that information because I don't have
Speaker 2: to talk to anybody and communicate.
Speaker 4: Even though it didn't bother you as a player, you think,
Speaker 4: what you've see, what you've seen so far early in
Speaker 4: the season, a lot of defenses are strong.
Speaker 2: Well. Well, remember I was with the majority of my
Speaker 2: groups for a long time, so we had seen that.
Speaker 2: Remember this group you know on the on the offensive
Speaker 2: side hasn't been together. It's a collection of great talented players,
Speaker 2: but they haven't. They haven't did it together. Like so
Speaker 2: from an offensive standpoint, you know, I mean maybe it's
Speaker 2: difficult to do all the shifts and motions, but if
Speaker 2: you add them in, you know, just like you know,
Speaker 2: Aaron says his cadence is a is a weapon. So
Speaker 2: it's formations right because it doesn't allow you to see
Speaker 2: the final picture. So you know, guys that have to communicate.
Speaker 2: Now everybody's great communicators, right, and you force the defensive
Speaker 2: line have to listen. Now they now they have to
Speaker 2: listen instead of paying attention look at the ball. They're
Speaker 2: hearing the communication from the linebacker switching strengths. So now
Speaker 2: I gotta shift. Now I gotta go back, he said,
Speaker 2: a half shift, you know, back and forth. And now
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I'm tired because now it shifts over here.
Speaker 2: Then they're like, oh, we had a blitz on and
Speaker 2: so like all those things just give people more information
Speaker 2: than they need and it messes them up because now
Speaker 2: they have to see more because you're doing more. So
Speaker 2: whoever can handle the mental stuff the gymnastics, mental gymnasticis
Speaker 2: you know better, should have more success?
Speaker 4: Why just some veteran quarterback And I'm not even speaking
Speaker 4: about Aaron because he's been open to using it more.
Speaker 4: He's acknowledged that and said the game has changed because
Speaker 4: they talked to him ten years ago and he said,
Speaker 4: I don't like that. But why do some veteran quarterbacks
Speaker 4: resist that?
Speaker 2: Because it all depends on what what your upbringing was. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what systems you grew up in. I mean, if I
Speaker 2: feel like if you're in a Sean McVay tree, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's been an advantage, right, It was always that because
Speaker 2: they hided the simple runs and the simplicity of the offense. Right,
Speaker 2: some people like to just go line up and they
Speaker 2: want to be able to Aaron. I'm assuming it gives
Speaker 2: Aaron an opportunity to read the defense how they line.
Speaker 1: Up if he's not doing that.
Speaker 4: But again, he's not a record by saying that he's
Speaker 4: more open to it than he's spent in the past.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I feel like, you know, they need to
Speaker 2: have those conversations because you know, what was popular, you know,
Speaker 2: back back then. I mean it's not probably anymore. I mean,
Speaker 2: remember the Bunch was popular. Now now you see different
Speaker 2: formations every year. It's new things that offense are doing
Speaker 2: that's unique and causes problems on the defense because what
Speaker 2: happens is all off season the offense is trying to
Speaker 2: figure out a way how to get advantage offensive coaches, coordinators,
Speaker 2: and in the offseason, defense is trying to look how
Speaker 2: to get how to get advantage and put put difficulty
Speaker 2: on the other side of the ball. So, you know,
Speaker 2: Ship's emotions has been something that's been great. It was
Speaker 2: great for Buffalo the first two weeks when you looked
Speaker 2: at Jacksonville, they were running around. They couldn't figure out
Speaker 2: what was going on. They couldn't look at anything because.
Speaker 1: They refuse to get out of man coverage.
Speaker 2: Right, how many blown plays? That's what you're looking for,
Speaker 2: because you know the difference in three or four blown
Speaker 2: plays are one or two plays can lead to big
Speaker 2: plays and touchdowns, easy scores, which is what you always want.
Speaker 1: Styles make fights.
Speaker 4: Buffalo's offense is scuffle in the last couple of weeks
Speaker 4: against Baltimore and Baltimore desperate team and yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 4: then there was twenty twenty game and interesting the way
Speaker 4: that game ended.
Speaker 1: But no digs.
Speaker 4: So you don't have this big, prototypical number one receiver
Speaker 4: who's gonna win a.
Speaker 1: Lot of his routes and they're they're scuffling. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: And also they do first three weeks for them and
Speaker 2: then they went against better opponents.
Speaker 4: But historically here at MetLife, at Jetlife, the Jets have
Speaker 4: always played Alan Wells always. Do you anticipate a similar
Speaker 4: tune here Monday night?
Speaker 2: I mean I do. I mean, you just you know,
Speaker 2: you know this game is gonna be tight. You know,
Speaker 2: Allen's gonna make some plays. You're gonna make some plays.
Speaker 2: You just gotta make more than the Buffalo Bills, and
Speaker 2: you have to figure everything out. Play at a high level,
Speaker 2: understand what's at stake, play a clean game, make sure
Speaker 2: that they beat you and you don't lose it, so
Speaker 2: to speak, by self inflicted wounds. And I think they'll
Speaker 2: be okay.
Speaker 4: Other side of the ball, though, Jets offense gotta get going.
Speaker 4: When you look at the Bills defense, they've been gashed
Speaker 4: and run. We saw the Henry Long run, we saw
Speaker 4: the opening touchdown against Houston last week. Do you think
Speaker 4: that there's gonna be opportunities here for the Jets to
Speaker 4: get that ground game established.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's always opportunities, but I think it's more
Speaker 2: about the Jets than it is about the Bills and
Speaker 2: Oliver who knows what his status is. Bernardists back, so
Speaker 2: he's a guy that played with they had to torn
Speaker 2: pack and he came back and had it, you know,
Speaker 2: instant impact.
Speaker 1: So you know if Johnson plays, that would be big
Speaker 1: for them.
Speaker 2: Obviously I would attack. I would attack these safeties, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, coming down like I think that's
Speaker 2: the weakness of their team. But they have to make
Speaker 2: plays and that's what it is. Can't have too many drops,
Speaker 2: can have self inflicted wounds. If you want to get
Speaker 2: a victory, you gotta play a clean game and see
Speaker 2: see both sides can execute at a high level.
Speaker 1: Are you excited to see what happens?
Speaker 4: I don't know after after, because this is this is
Speaker 4: a seismic move. Is that a third time in franchise
Speaker 4: history that Jets have made an in season coaching move
Speaker 4: and they're not doing this waving the white flag Woody
Speaker 4: Johnson saying that, hey, we're underperforming. I gotta make a
Speaker 4: change because I believe in.
Speaker 2: This team and I see if they continue to stay
Speaker 2: active in the trade market right to get that one.
Speaker 1: Oh perfect transition.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, So what do you think what do you think
Speaker 4: about Adams being out there? That's the reports right now
Speaker 4: that the Raiders are openly gonna list listen to offers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they rather do it sooner than later.
Speaker 2: But then again, you know, they know people need them
Speaker 2: and want them, so they're trying to, you know, to
Speaker 2: to get a deal in their favorite and then the
Speaker 2: Jets ort the Saints or whoever else. Then the market
Speaker 2: is trying to get something in their favorite. So you
Speaker 2: got to try and find something in the middle.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fascinating because.
Speaker 4: Up there's probably a mystery a couple of mystery teams
Speaker 4: out there too. When they say Jets and Saints, and
Speaker 4: the speculation is out there and whatever.
Speaker 1: We don't know what's making calls to the Raiders exactly.
Speaker 2: So you know that's the thing, and you know, I
Speaker 2: know that he wants to go to certain places, but
Speaker 2: the Raiders have to do what's best for them as well.
Speaker 2: And they see how much of that money they're willing
Speaker 2: to take on because they're asking a lot. They don't
Speaker 2: want to take on any money, or allegedly they don't
Speaker 2: want to take on any money, and they want a
Speaker 2: high draft pick.
Speaker 4: Give me an X Factor for Monday night, either on
Speaker 4: the Jets or the Pills.
Speaker 2: I probably say, man, it's time for X factor, somebody
Speaker 2: that we should depend on. But it has to be
Speaker 2: Breeste Hall. It has to be somebody that can that
Speaker 2: can you know, get home run explosively from the run game.
Speaker 2: If Expactor has to be the run game, because that's
Speaker 2: what's lacking. You have to protect Aaron Rodgers and keep
Speaker 2: him out of predictable third and lungs.
Speaker 4: And I'd be remiss if we didn't end on DJ Reed.
Speaker 4: Oh well, has he been playing bart.
Speaker 2: He's playing like all pro. He's playing like you know,
Speaker 2: top five corner in his league, and now if he
Speaker 2: keeps us up, he'll find himself as an all pro.
Speaker 1: Good stuff.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it, man,