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Gentlemen, A great to see you both 13 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 4: here in studio. I really think you're looking festive. I 14 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 4: know people are listening to this audio as well the podcast. 15 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: But then it's to brighten it up, right. This is 16 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: like orange is like the the winter color, the fall color. Right, 17 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: the leaves are turning orange. Banger right now. 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: I love pumpkin spice. 19 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 4: And you always are showing some South Florida on your wardrobe. 20 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 5: A little peck somebody, somebody has to bring a little 21 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 5: Don Johnson to the studio. 22 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, okay, so crocking the tops here. Let's get 23 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 4: into it right now. Jeff Albrick, the twenty first head 24 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 4: coach in franchise history, What did you make of the 25 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 4: dismissal and where do we go from here? Of obviously 26 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 4: Robert Sala finishes his Jets ten year, twenty and thirty six. 27 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: Well, because I'm not in the building, like often, I 28 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: don't know what the vibe is right, and you know 29 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: clearly what he thought the vibe was off and maybe 30 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: thought this team needed a spark. This is a talented 31 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: roster that's underachieving. But if you look across the league, 32 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: everybody's underachieved. I feel like this team just hasn't had 33 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: the collective experience and they're learning lessons on the fly 34 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: and we're watching them, you know, figure out how to 35 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: make the sauce and cutting it. They south chef and 36 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: all the ingredients, they haven't yet to put them in 37 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 2: the pot and measure right. And I think that's where 38 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: we're at. And you know, clearly, when you think about 39 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: this regime last year, you can think about the intensity 40 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: and in patience, right, because this is supposed to be 41 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: last year, so we already had to wait a year 42 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: because when they got four games of it, So like 43 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: it's pressure on everybody. There are either bus pipes or 44 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: either make crazy diamonds. Then we're going to see if 45 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: all Brick can kind of lead, and I'm interested to 46 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: see how he leads and the impact that he can 47 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: have on his team, the roster, the way that they 48 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: go about business, the difference in how it looks in 49 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 2: one week. 50 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: It was certainly a move that sent shockways throughout the 51 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 4: national full well it. 52 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 5: Did, because it's so early, you know, and you know 53 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 5: everybody's three and two or two and three. I mean, 54 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 5: everybody's kind of jumbled up together. But you know they 55 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 5: haven't They've missed opportunities to win games these last two weeks. 56 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 5: I mean very winnable games. You lose at home, you 57 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 5: can't score touchdowns, you're down the one yard line. Something's off. 58 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 5: Maybe the spark is what you need. Maybe you need 59 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 5: a different voice right now. Maybe there's things that can 60 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 5: be fixed during the game, corrected during the game. Maybe 61 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 5: you know, the owner things like he's got that choice. 62 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 5: But I think right now it's really on the players. 63 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 5: Like the players got I think they've got to get 64 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 5: more out of practice than what we're seeing on the 65 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 5: field on Sundays. And then I think that there's this 66 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 5: team still has the defense is playing fantastic, but that's okay. 67 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: Like it. 68 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 5: Ultimately, it has to come together and you're gonna know it, 69 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 5: you're gonna feel it. And I don't think that feeling 70 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 5: that Bart's talking about is being demonstrated right now in 71 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 5: the field. It sounds a little bit odd, I guess. 72 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 5: But this team should be better. They should be better. 73 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 5: The way the defense is playing, they should be better. 74 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 5: They should have won these last two. 75 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: And that's something that Woody Johnson made clear that he 76 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: thinks this is one of the most talented rosters that 77 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 4: he's had in the last twenty five years. Second, second 78 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 4: or third, And Jeff Albris said everything's on the table, 79 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: you know, no stone, no stone is gonna be left 80 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 4: unturned as he looks at the entire operation. 81 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: I mean, the tough thing is, I don't know if 82 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: that if they're in today, today is what Wednesday? I 83 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: don't know if they I don't know if. 84 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: They come Yeah, this is Tuesday because it's a Monday 85 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: night game. 86 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: Right right, right, So I don't know if tomorrow is 87 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: the first day where the team comes back. Yep, right, 88 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: And you know you talk about hitting the ground running. 89 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: You know you have to bring guys in you know, 90 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: address the room, you know, let everybody know what's going 91 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: on and what the new standard is. And the standard 92 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: has to be the standard. You can't compromise. And whenever 93 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: you have even though it's the same regime, you can 94 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: have new emphasis. And I wonder what jeff aldbricks emphasis 95 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: is going to be about. It's going to be about accountability, 96 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: It's going to be about execution. You know, it could 97 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: be about all right, and you know we'll see that 98 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: because you know, everybody now is auditioning for playing time. 99 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: Because I feel like, yeah, at this point, we're evaluating 100 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: everything because we're if we're underachieving, then we have to 101 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: analyze everything because everything contributes to a win or a loss. 102 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 5: I've been a part of a team that fired their 103 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 5: coach during the season and we had the interim head 104 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 5: coach defense coordinator became the head coach. 105 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 3: Very similar. 106 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 5: I mean that first meeting, you come in and you 107 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 5: want to see what the message like. First of all, 108 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 5: everybody was shocked within the team that the move was made. 109 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 5: So that's that. Then the new coach, Jeff you know, 110 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 5: he's got to sit in front of the room. A 111 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 5: lot of guys, you know, on offense. They're not around 112 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 5: Jeff Aulbrick all the time, not in meetings with They 113 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 5: know that he's the coordinator, they know that he's got 114 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 5: a big role in the team, but they're not dealing 115 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 5: with him day to day on the offense special teams. 116 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 5: So it's the first time that collectively the team gets 117 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 5: to hear Jeff's message, and he doesn't have a whole 118 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 5: lot of time to. 119 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 3: Think about it. Like he's a football coach. 120 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 5: Coaches live in seven day life cycles, just like players do. 121 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 5: They're all about game planning, preparation, making sure that the 122 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 5: team is prepared for the game. Now he's got a 123 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 5: much bigger role in addition to all those things he's got, 124 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 5: but also he's got things decisions to make game day, 125 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 5: you know, whether it's challenges okay, or we tick to 126 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 5: the field goal we punted, like, all those decisions now 127 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 5: are on him. So he's going to lean heavily on 128 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 5: these other coordinators right now, but still game day, the 129 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 5: spotlight's going to be on him Monday night in big 130 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 5: moments and what you do because these games are being 131 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 5: decided by a call, by a play, by a decision 132 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 5: like you see how closest thing is in this league 133 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 5: right now, the head coaches is under the microscope. 134 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: He brings a lot of juice. 135 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 4: Obviously, he's orchestrated a turnaround from the defense. Robert Sala 136 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 4: stuck with him, and he credited Sala. He gave a 137 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 4: lot of gratitude here in his first press conference as 138 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 4: head coach, saying that I wouldn't be in this position 139 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 4: without Robert. In twenty one, that defense took its lumps, 140 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 4: but now four years later, this Jets defense continues to 141 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 4: play at an elite level. So he has been the 142 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 4: guy there calling the shots. 143 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: But to bald these points, now. 144 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: You have to look at the entire operation and game 145 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 4: day is going to be completely different. One of the 146 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 4: things that I thought was interesting is he said, likely 147 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 4: no changes on the staff, but I have to look 148 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: at roles and responsibilities, and that could mean offensive signal 149 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 4: caller and defensive signal caller because Albrick was a guy. 150 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 4: Obviously he's calling the plays with this defense. Does he 151 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 4: call the plays on Monday Night? 152 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: I mean, we see some guys who belie Ta Bowle 153 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 2: still calls the defense. At least I believe you think 154 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 2: about you know, I know, we don't think that Andy 155 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: Reid calls the plays, but come on, so like, but 156 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: you know these are veterans within that role. 157 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 5: You talk about Joel McDermott calls the plays now, but 158 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 5: you know he's got to make all those decisions. 159 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: But you also talk about trying to call a play 160 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: but then to challenge, not to challenge how many time 161 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: outs do we have left? How can you handle all 162 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: that in game administrative stuff as well and do that 163 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: This is something that he's learning to do now. He 164 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: doesn't have a preseason to learn it. He's got to 165 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: do it right now. So does he hire additional staff 166 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: to handle challenges? Does he delegate those type of responsibilities? 167 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: And also the week leading up to now instead of 168 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: going and doing his game plan, now I have to 169 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: address the media. I got to listen to questions and 170 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: all that type of stuff and address everybody. So like, 171 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: it's a big responsibility and no matter what your one 172 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: staff member down. So do you hire a staff member 173 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: because Robert Sala had a his roles as well, which 174 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: allowed everybody else to have the road is kind of 175 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: like the next man up mentality. But then what you 176 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: can't make sure that in this game, you know the 177 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: difference between winning and losing so minute that you can 178 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: you can't make sure that something slips through the cracks 179 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: because simply we don't have enough people or manpower delegated 180 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: to be able to make those decisions and go through 181 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: the everything that has go through. 182 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: If this defense would have continued its current trajectory this year, 183 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 4: Ulbrich was gonna get head coaching jobs out there, and 184 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 4: he might have landed a job. But as Bart's talking about, like, Okay, 185 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 4: when you look at Monday night in the big picture, 186 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 4: do you think that he should step away calm plays 187 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 4: or you just don't have enough time on the defensive 188 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 4: side of the ball. Because he coached the senior ball 189 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 4: in Mobile, Alabama, and he since said, you know, if 190 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 4: I'm the coach, I would look at it from a 191 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 4: CEO type angle. 192 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: It's hard to give up that duty. 193 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 5: I mean, the guys are used to listening to his voice, 194 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 5: listening to his reasoning, listening to his rallying cry when 195 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 5: they need to do that. 196 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: Uh. 197 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 5: And if you remove himself from that, if somebody else 198 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 5: does it, are you going to get the same effect 199 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 5: that they have been getting. The defense has responded time 200 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 5: and time again. You lose c J Mosley, Jamien Sherwood 201 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 5: steps in playing great, you know, so Michael Carter goes down, 202 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 5: comes in, so you you know, Jermaine Johnson goes down. 203 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 5: Will McDonald you know, becomes a starter, becomes an impactful player, 204 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 5: like you're seeing what you want to see. You want 205 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 5: to see the next man up like without any drop off. 206 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 5: And we've kind of seen that and so like he's 207 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 5: had that effect and that that sort of you know, 208 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 5: if you're looking for a head coach whatever, that's one 209 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 5: of the things I would sell myself on. 210 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 3: Now, are you ready to give that up? 211 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 5: To be the CEO and look at everything that's you know, 212 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 5: that's that's difficult decisions sometimes. 213 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 2: Because you can have you can have the playbooks and 214 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 2: all the plays, but it's about when to call them, 215 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 2: why you call them. So you give that to somebody, 216 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: and then what happens is somebody calls some things that 217 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: you wouldn't call you an agree with. It doesn't work out, 218 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: that's still your baby, you know. I mean, you have 219 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: to be able to somebody has to earn the right 220 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: to kind of take that away from me. So I 221 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 2: can see him still having to call it. But then 222 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: maybe delegate some other people to handle the challenges and 223 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: stuff like that. 224 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 5: I remember talking to Jeff last year before the Eagles game. 225 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 5: If you remember in that game last year that they won, Well, 226 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 5: you had no sauce, you had no DJ, you know, 227 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 5: no card, You're down your top three corners. 228 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 3: So I remember talking to him, like, what are you 229 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: gonna do today, Jeff? 230 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 5: And he starts laughing, you know, like he goes, well, 231 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 5: you know, I don't think I can just you know, 232 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 5: blitz the whole time. I got guys out there. There's 233 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 5: never you know, from the practice squad got to hold 234 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 5: up against aj. 235 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: Brown and these guys. But he had a good he 236 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: had a good plan. 237 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 5: They took the ball away that day, they responded, and 238 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 5: if they took four the ball away four times that 239 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 5: day and so they were really responded in a situation 240 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 5: that looked, you know, very very tough at the time. 241 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 5: And so he's had that effect. He's had those moments, 242 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 5: you know with his defense. To Bart's point, Uh, everybody 243 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 5: has calls, everybody has blitzeres, the pressures when you call it, 244 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 5: when you take that gamble, when's the right time to 245 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 5: make this. He's got a good feel for it, And 246 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 5: I don't know if you want to disturb that right now, 247 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 5: right by the bigger duties that he has. 248 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 2: That's the one concert right now as you can lean on, 249 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: you can hang your hat on the defenses playing, and 250 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: you don't. You don't want to disturb that and then 251 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: to go fix that. So now that falls out of whack. 252 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: So you just want to build with what's you're good at. 253 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 2: I can see, in my opinion, I would just keep 254 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: going and I would delegate some of the other things 255 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: like helping move with challenges and administrative stuff that goes 256 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: on during the game. Do we punt? 257 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 3: Do we kick? 258 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Because you know, maybe he 259 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: can't address the whole defense when they come off the 260 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: field because he hasn't pay attention to what's going on with, 261 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: you know, the offensive side of the ball, what the 262 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: down and distance is and all that type of stuff. 263 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: What do you make of this that the Jets are 264 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: two plays. 265 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 4: Away from being four and one if sirline hits a 266 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 4: field goal against the Broncos or your film breakdown that 267 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 4: you put on the interwebs here recently, Garrett Wilson, it's never. 268 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 3: One play, number one play. 269 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 5: It just isn't like every good coach is going to 270 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 5: tell you that, Okay, Greg misses a kick against Demver, 271 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 5: we win the game. But like you could pick out 272 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 5: ten plays where that game was decided they had well 273 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 5: first of goal with the one they didn't score, is 274 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 5: that is that Greg's zerline's fault. You know, you could 275 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 5: look at the Tennessee game and will Levis, you know, 276 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 5: just you know they're going into making fourteen to nothing 277 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 5: and he gives. 278 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: The ball back. 279 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 5: You know, so you can always do that. That's easy 280 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 5: to do, But you can look at it the other 281 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 5: way around too. In games that were tight, they could 282 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 5: have lost those games just as easily. 283 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 4: Sometimes offensively, we're saying the defense is where it's supposed 284 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 4: to be. 285 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: They're playing an elite level. 286 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 4: They just held in Minnesota well under its averages. They 287 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 4: give up sixteen points, it came up with two takeaways. 288 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 4: Quincy Williams damn nearly scored on that fumble recovery. He 289 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 4: had accles making a huge interception. That gives you the 290 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 4: ball and plus territory. It gives you an opportunity to 291 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 4: win offensively. What's happened in the last two games because 292 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: the Jets really had a complete effort against the New 293 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 4: England Patriots, were unable to build on that against the Broncos, 294 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 4: limited to three field goals, and then last week plagued 295 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 4: by a slow start in Minnesota. 296 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: How does this change? 297 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: I feel like right now they have to identify who 298 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: they are and what's their philosophy, right, because I feel 299 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: like this is an offense with no identity and they 300 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 2: really have nothing to hang their hats on, like this 301 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: is what we do well? Right? They have to figure 302 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 2: out what we do well and how do we build 303 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: on that and then expand on that and grow that. 304 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: They have to figure out who they are, right and 305 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: they have to start demanding a little bit more from 306 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: each of their players to kind of pull in the 307 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: same direction. Can't have mischees, you know at this point. 308 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: You know how you talk about rookies like, oh man, 309 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: you know, middle of the season, you're not a rookie anymore. Well, 310 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: this offense is, you know, five weeks in, right, you 311 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: can't say, well, you know, we just got together. It's 312 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,479 Speaker 2: time to start not having miscommunications. I have procedure problems 313 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 2: starting to time to tighten the screws down. You know 314 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: what I'm saying back the hatches, Well. 315 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 4: How does Albrook put his stamp on the offense because 316 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 4: he's coming from the other side of the ball and 317 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 4: the staff is the same, how do you put your 318 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 4: stamp on it now? 319 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 5: Well, I think every head coach that comes from the 320 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 5: defensive side of the ball wants to be a good 321 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 5: running football team. I mean, after five weeks they're thirty 322 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 5: second in the league, like they're last. 323 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 3: Nobody wants to be last in any category. 324 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 5: But you know, when you have two backs of Breest 325 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 5: Hall and Braylan Allen's ability, you have to look at 326 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 5: this offensive line right now and say they got to 327 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 5: play better. But why why aren't they playing well enough 328 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 5: in the run game right now? There's too many negative runs. 329 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 5: There's too many runs aren't getting any yards, and that 330 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 5: shouldn't happen. And so like it starts out there, starts 331 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 5: out there in the practice field, honestly, like, they've got 332 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 5: to find three runs that they can hang their hat 333 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 5: on against any defense and make them work, and they 334 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 5: got to identify those. You got to identify. I'd go 335 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 5: back and watch all the negative runs, all the players 336 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 5: that have gone blown up because Aaron Rodgers has dropped 337 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 5: back one hundred and eight times in the last two games. 338 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 5: He's not gonna survive and they're not gonna win a 339 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 5: lot of these games if they do that. They got 340 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 5: to get back Bunce back of the offense, and they've 341 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 5: got two backs that they got to get going, and 342 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 5: I think that could go fix a lot of the 343 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 5: roes on offense. 344 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: Right now, the Jets a thirty second running football in 345 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 4: the National Football I'm shocked by it because we spoke 346 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 4: last year about the thirteen different offensive line combinations. You've 347 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 4: had the same four guys up there. Old fashion news 348 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 4: started the last couple of games. 349 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: So maybe you get. 350 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 4: Good news on the injury front with Morgan Moses, but 351 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 4: you also a quarterback against a BILDI last year and 352 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 4: you were still running the ball. 353 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: Why aren't they running the ball right now? 354 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a change in philosophy. A 355 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: lot of gaps games, I mean zone schemes. Maybe they 356 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: got to consider that they got a bunch of dogs 357 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: that are gap scheme guys. I love Tipmans of athletics 358 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: has visibility to pull and get on the perimeter. I mean, 359 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: you look at the most successful run games going on 360 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: right now. Everything is about shift motions and angles, you know, 361 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: and being able to block back and get the angles 362 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: on people. You know. I think we've we've removed ourselves 363 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: a little bit from the time where you just used 364 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: to move men against their will. Think now it's about 365 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: influencing or negative influencing the defenders and being able to 366 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: get angles to move them out of the way and 367 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: be able to create you know, seals where guys can 368 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: have options, you know. So I would like, I. 369 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 5: Think that philosophy is good Bart if you've already established 370 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 5: that you can move the line of scrimmage and you 371 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 5: can move bodies off the line of scrimmage. 372 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't seen them try to move by saying 373 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: everybody's going lateral. So I think I challenged him that 374 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: because you brought in Simpson. That's what he did and 375 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: customed to doing. In Baltimore. Morgan Moses was there as well, 376 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: Tyron Smith. That run game him next to Zach Martin 377 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: was a gap, you know, power scheme. So I don't 378 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: know why they couldn't do it. And y'all, I would 379 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: love to see the skipper package. I would only say 380 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: skipper package because you know, Dan Skippers is probably the 381 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: most famous tackle elgible guy and all in the NFL 382 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: dealing with the playoffs that year. But you have a 383 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: good one in fashion. So I mean I feel like, 384 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: you know, when big yeah, when Morgan comes back instead 385 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: of having a tight end out there. And I listen, 386 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 2: it's funny because we're talking about this the other the 387 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: day and we were talking about on my radio show. 388 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: We were talking about, you know, Davante Adams and you 389 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: know what that means, but also getting a nice nasty 390 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: fullback out there, you know what I mean. I know 391 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: you Bola is not bad, but you know, you think 392 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: about guys like Ingle and stuff like that, like those 393 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: guys are are are pivotal, right. It used to be 394 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: a time where the fullback. 395 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 5: With Patrick Ricard, yeah you know and Juice right well yeah, 396 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 5: yeah exactly. 397 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: So we're gonna let all the get out of here, 398 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: get on. 399 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got herpike right now, he's got to take 400 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 4: but the podcast is going to roll on. But he's 401 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 4: a hey man, give me thirty seconds on this week's 402 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 4: matchup against the Buffalo Bills. 403 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 5: Well look, I mean it's when you face Josh Allen, 404 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 5: you're facing you know, a rare talent. Okay, Like there's 405 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 5: so many different ways you can hurt you. But the 406 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 5: Jets have also forced him to do a lot of turnovers. 407 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 5: He's gonna make mistakes. He hasn't throw an interception up 408 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 5: this year. He has the two lost fumbles like that, 409 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 5: It would be good if you forced him into mistakes. 410 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 5: And then I want to see the Jets really establish 411 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 5: a run. I want to see them. This is the 412 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 5: AFC East, all right, you got a division opponent. You 413 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 5: know them as well as you know anybody in this 414 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 5: whole business. Like it's time to like make this an 415 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 5: emphasis and forget about Aaron's ability and his ability to 416 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 5: throw all that. That's good. Let's start running the football. 417 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 5: They've got two big backs. Let's see him working concert 418 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 5: together and get that thing going. Because I think if 419 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 5: you're gonna, if you're gonna get back on the winning 420 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 5: track and you're gonna start stacking some wins at some 421 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 5: point this season and make a play for the division. 422 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 3: You got to run the ball a whole lot better. 423 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: Baldy, great stuff. Shift change. 424 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 4: You can take your mic off, and Bart and I 425 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 4: are going to roll on here Official Tests podcast Footprints. 426 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: How much do you love Wednesdays with Baldy by the way. 427 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: Oh, it's always informative. They always have a good time. Man, 428 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 2: we talk balls, man, that's my guy. Man. 429 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So this week's matchup Phils. If you consider it, 430 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 4: we talked about this on Jet's game Day, do you 431 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 4: consider this a must win game for the Green and White, 432 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 4: the one game be hind the Bills in the division. 433 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 4: This is just a sixth game of the year. That 434 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 4: means there's eleven games after this. You could be three 435 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: and three tied with the Bills. 436 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: If you lose, you're two and four. 437 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 4: You're on a three game losing streak, and you're basically 438 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 4: two and a half games behind the Bills. 439 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 440 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: I mean this is one of those games where you 441 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 2: know you can say, hey, things hasn't gone our way, 442 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: but we have an opportunity. But all the things that 443 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: have going badly, how much better would we feel about 444 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: ourselves and how much people people feel about this football 445 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: team if we get a big win on Monday Night 446 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: football in front of our peers in a divisional rivalry game. 447 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: You know it's all right there in front of us. 448 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: I think you know, they have an opportunity sometimes you 449 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 2: got you can't really dwell on what happened and how 450 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 2: you got here, but you have to, you know, be 451 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: able to figure out, hey, that's how we get out. 452 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a braveheart scene. 453 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 4: Do you think the Jets are gonna get a jolt 454 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 4: from a coaching change here? 455 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: Well, I think it could, right, it could be a 456 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: joe to energy right, new perspective. You know, guys who 457 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 2: aren't playing, you'll see the opportunity to have a clean slate, 458 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: to be able to play tribute and you know, just 459 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: the philosophy, something to rally around, and you know, athletes 460 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 2: and teams always, you know, thrive or look for the 461 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 2: opportunities to have some of the rally around and pull together. 462 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 2: Because right now everybody on the outside is is poking holes, 463 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: you know, at this team, at this organization. So the 464 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 2: only thing you can do is go to the bunker mentalities. 465 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 4: How does that resonate in the locker room? Because you 466 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 4: get back from London, you get a couple of hours 467 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 4: sleep Sunday, it's Monday, and then you find. 468 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: Out Tuesday that there is a coaching change. 469 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: If your defensive guy a shot, well, well you know 470 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: we've lost guys more carrier guys during the season, during training, 471 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: I mean, during the BIE week and stuff like that. 472 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: But to lose a head coach, that's like your main 473 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: voice that you hear. But really, your your closest relationships 474 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: are with the coordinators and your position coaches. So from 475 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: a football standpoint, I don't think it matters a lot 476 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: because you know, it doesn't affect your daily preparation. Right, 477 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 2: the same person that you listen to for an install, 478 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: you're gonna see the same install group. Everything's gonna be 479 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: the same. The difference is the team meetings, Right, You're 480 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 2: not going to have that. You know that that relationship, 481 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: I mean because when you go to practice, you're you're 482 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: dealing with the coordinator. I mean, you might see the 483 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: head coach, but you're not talking to the head coach. Yeah, 484 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: what I mean, you're talking to the coordinator. Not a 485 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: lot of one on one right, Right. You know, you're 486 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: on this side, the offense on that side, and the 487 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 2: head coach is behind the offense, so it's most of 488 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 2: the one on one time. So I think they'll be 489 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: fine from that standpoint, you know, But I'm sure it's 490 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 2: guys here that you know we're here because Robert Solove 491 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: was the head coach, and you know those relationships matter, 492 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 2: so you worry about you know, how he's feeling his family. 493 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you understand you 494 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: have a job doing. You have to move forward. 495 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: So Baldi wants the Jets to get the run. 496 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 4: Game going got to you. You're there as well. What 497 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 4: have you seen from Rogers so far? 498 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: Through five games? 499 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 4: Obviously the last couple of games a lot of dropbacks. 500 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 4: If we talked about teams are blitzing the hell out 501 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 4: of the Jets. 502 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: He's taking a being less too. 503 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 2: That's why you want to run the ball so he 504 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 2: doesn't expose itself. 505 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 4: But what's going on is the play action. You can't 506 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 4: have play action unless you're running the ball. Well, can 507 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 4: you pass the ball to set up the run? And 508 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 4: also let's talk about present a motion. 509 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: Where do you land with that? Is a guy who's 510 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: defendedive before. 511 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 4: Also from an offensive perspective, if you're looking at the 512 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 4: Jets and you're looking at a cure for their ills 513 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 4: right now, do you think they should be using more motion? 514 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: I think so because it's just eyew wash. Right, you 515 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: end up where you're going to end up, but it 516 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: creates a distorted picture for the defense. The defense has 517 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 2: to kind of break down past all the shifts motions 518 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: and really see what's going on. But it forces them 519 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: not to focus on the formation to play the Tennessee's 520 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 2: I can't read all my keys if I'm looking at 521 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 2: all these shifts and motions. But when I'm able to 522 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 2: just line up, come out, and you're going through a 523 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: long cadence and you're at the line of scrims in 524 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: eighteen seconds, it gives me about ten seconds to look 525 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 2: at the splits of the tackle, look at the posture 526 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 2: of the guard, look at the depth of the running back, 527 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: look at the splits of the ride receivers. It allows 528 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: me to gather all that information because I don't have 529 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 2: to talk to anybody and communicate. 530 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 4: Even though it didn't bother you as a player, you think, 531 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 4: what you've see, what you've seen so far early in 532 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 4: the season, a lot of defenses are strong. 533 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: Well. Well, remember I was with the majority of my 534 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 2: groups for a long time, so we had seen that. 535 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: Remember this group you know on the on the offensive 536 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: side hasn't been together. It's a collection of great talented players, 537 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: but they haven't. They haven't did it together. Like so 538 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: from an offensive standpoint, you know, I mean maybe it's 539 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: difficult to do all the shifts and motions, but if 540 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 2: you add them in, you know, just like you know, 541 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: Aaron says his cadence is a is a weapon. So 542 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: it's formations right because it doesn't allow you to see 543 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 2: the final picture. So you know, guys that have to communicate. 544 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 2: Now everybody's great communicators, right, and you force the defensive 545 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: line have to listen. Now they now they have to 546 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: listen instead of paying attention look at the ball. They're 547 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 2: hearing the communication from the linebacker switching strengths. So now 548 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: I gotta shift. Now I gotta go back, he said, 549 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: a half shift, you know, back and forth. And now 550 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I'm tired because now it shifts over here. 551 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: Then they're like, oh, we had a blitz on and 552 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 2: so like all those things just give people more information 553 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: than they need and it messes them up because now 554 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: they have to see more because you're doing more. So 555 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 2: whoever can handle the mental stuff the gymnastics, mental gymnasticis 556 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: you know better, should have more success? 557 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 4: Why just some veteran quarterback And I'm not even speaking 558 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 4: about Aaron because he's been open to using it more. 559 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 4: He's acknowledged that and said the game has changed because 560 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 4: they talked to him ten years ago and he said, 561 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 4: I don't like that. But why do some veteran quarterbacks 562 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 4: resist that? 563 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 2: Because it all depends on what what your upbringing was. Yeah, 564 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: what systems you grew up in. I mean, if I 565 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: feel like if you're in a Sean McVay tree, I mean, 566 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: that's been an advantage, right, It was always that because 567 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 2: they hided the simple runs and the simplicity of the offense. Right, 568 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: some people like to just go line up and they 569 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: want to be able to Aaron. I'm assuming it gives 570 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: Aaron an opportunity to read the defense how they line. 571 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: Up if he's not doing that. 572 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 4: But again, he's not a record by saying that he's 573 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 4: more open to it than he's spent in the past. 574 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I feel like, you know, they need to 575 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 2: have those conversations because you know, what was popular, you know, 576 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: back back then. I mean it's not probably anymore. I mean, 577 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: remember the Bunch was popular. Now now you see different 578 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: formations every year. It's new things that offense are doing 579 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: that's unique and causes problems on the defense because what 580 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: happens is all off season the offense is trying to 581 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: figure out a way how to get advantage offensive coaches, coordinators, 582 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: and in the offseason, defense is trying to look how 583 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: to get how to get advantage and put put difficulty 584 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: on the other side of the ball. So, you know, 585 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: Ship's emotions has been something that's been great. It was 586 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: great for Buffalo the first two weeks when you looked 587 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: at Jacksonville, they were running around. They couldn't figure out 588 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: what was going on. They couldn't look at anything because. 589 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: They refuse to get out of man coverage. 590 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: Right, how many blown plays? That's what you're looking for, 591 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: because you know the difference in three or four blown 592 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: plays are one or two plays can lead to big 593 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: plays and touchdowns, easy scores, which is what you always want. 594 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: Styles make fights. 595 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 4: Buffalo's offense is scuffle in the last couple of weeks 596 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 4: against Baltimore and Baltimore desperate team and yeah, yeah, and 597 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 4: then there was twenty twenty game and interesting the way 598 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 4: that game ended. 599 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: But no digs. 600 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 4: So you don't have this big, prototypical number one receiver 601 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 4: who's gonna win a. 602 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: Lot of his routes and they're they're scuffling. I'm sorry. 603 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 2: And also they do first three weeks for them and 604 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 2: then they went against better opponents. 605 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 4: But historically here at MetLife, at Jetlife, the Jets have 606 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 4: always played Alan Wells always. Do you anticipate a similar 607 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 4: tune here Monday night? 608 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 2: I mean I do. I mean, you just you know, 609 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 2: you know this game is gonna be tight. You know, 610 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: Allen's gonna make some plays. You're gonna make some plays. 611 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: You just gotta make more than the Buffalo Bills, and 612 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: you have to figure everything out. Play at a high level, 613 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: understand what's at stake, play a clean game, make sure 614 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: that they beat you and you don't lose it, so 615 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 2: to speak, by self inflicted wounds. And I think they'll 616 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: be okay. 617 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 4: Other side of the ball, though, Jets offense gotta get going. 618 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 4: When you look at the Bills defense, they've been gashed 619 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 4: and run. We saw the Henry Long run, we saw 620 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 4: the opening touchdown against Houston last week. Do you think 621 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 4: that there's gonna be opportunities here for the Jets to 622 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 4: get that ground game established. 623 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 2: I mean, it's always opportunities, but I think it's more 624 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 2: about the Jets than it is about the Bills and 625 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 2: Oliver who knows what his status is. Bernardists back, so 626 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: he's a guy that played with they had to torn 627 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: pack and he came back and had it, you know, 628 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: instant impact. 629 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: So you know if Johnson plays, that would be big 630 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: for them. 631 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: Obviously I would attack. I would attack these safeties, you 632 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 2: know what I mean, coming down like I think that's 633 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 2: the weakness of their team. But they have to make 634 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: plays and that's what it is. Can't have too many drops, 635 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: can have self inflicted wounds. If you want to get 636 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: a victory, you gotta play a clean game and see 637 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: see both sides can execute at a high level. 638 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: Are you excited to see what happens? 639 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 4: I don't know after after, because this is this is 640 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 4: a seismic move. Is that a third time in franchise 641 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 4: history that Jets have made an in season coaching move 642 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 4: and they're not doing this waving the white flag Woody 643 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 4: Johnson saying that, hey, we're underperforming. I gotta make a 644 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 4: change because I believe in. 645 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 2: This team and I see if they continue to stay 646 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: active in the trade market right to get that one. 647 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: Oh perfect transition. 648 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 4: Absolutely, So what do you think what do you think 649 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 4: about Adams being out there? That's the reports right now 650 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 4: that the Raiders are openly gonna list listen to offers. 651 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they rather do it sooner than later. 652 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: But then again, you know, they know people need them 653 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 2: and want them, so they're trying to, you know, to 654 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: to get a deal in their favorite and then the 655 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: Jets ort the Saints or whoever else. Then the market 656 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: is trying to get something in their favorite. So you 657 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: got to try and find something in the middle. 658 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fascinating because. 659 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 4: Up there's probably a mystery a couple of mystery teams 660 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 4: out there too. When they say Jets and Saints, and 661 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: the speculation is out there and whatever. 662 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: We don't know what's making calls to the Raiders exactly. 663 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: So you know that's the thing, and you know, I 664 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: know that he wants to go to certain places, but 665 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: the Raiders have to do what's best for them as well. 666 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: And they see how much of that money they're willing 667 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: to take on because they're asking a lot. They don't 668 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: want to take on any money, or allegedly they don't 669 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: want to take on any money, and they want a 670 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: high draft pick. 671 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 4: Give me an X Factor for Monday night, either on 672 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 4: the Jets or the Pills. 673 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: I probably say, man, it's time for X factor, somebody 674 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: that we should depend on. But it has to be 675 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: Breeste Hall. It has to be somebody that can that 676 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: can you know, get home run explosively from the run game. 677 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: If Expactor has to be the run game, because that's 678 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: what's lacking. You have to protect Aaron Rodgers and keep 679 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: him out of predictable third and lungs. 680 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 4: And I'd be remiss if we didn't end on DJ Reed. 681 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 4: Oh well, has he been playing bart. 682 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: He's playing like all pro. He's playing like you know, 683 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 2: top five corner in his league, and now if he 684 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: keeps us up, he'll find himself as an all pro. 685 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: Good stuff. 686 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: Appreciate it, man,