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Speaker 1: I'm Andrea Barber and I'm Jody Sweeten. Three of your

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Speaker 1: I got to introduce myself. Welcome to an all new

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Speaker 1: episode of How Rude Tanatos. Today we have a very

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Speaker 1: is the full house episode that features Steve Erkle. That's right,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to get to that one, right, we

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Speaker 2: I did at the SMA research event. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: So that's so nice. I chatted with him at nineties Con.

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Speaker 1: so today we welcome to the pod. Doug McIntyre Doug

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles radio show McIntyre in the Morning on KABC

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Speaker 1: Doug McIntyre. Yeah, hey, welcome to our podcast.

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Speaker 5: Yes, thanks so much for asking me. I was amazed

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Speaker 1: I saw Jeff Franklin last week and told him that

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Speaker 5: A funny story about having lunch with him at his

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sixty seven, okay, and I still eat like

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Speaker 4: I remember he went on a whole a few years ago.

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Speaker 1: But we're so excited to have you on the show.

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Speaker 2: And oh I love that actually, and I'd probably join

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Speaker 2: You know, had you been able to do the comedy

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Speaker 5: Well. You know. There was an actual famous case a

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Speaker 5: I mean, they're just a box of fruit. Loops, not

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Speaker 4: Why are we why bother? Let's just do it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right to the gold.

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Speaker 1: That is that necessity because you guys are working such

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Speaker 3: for so long together?

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Speaker 5: A lot of times it was when somebody's looking for

442
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Speaker 5: a button to the scene and is this just terrible silence?

443
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Speaker 5: Then you can just hear crunching his feet and eating whatever.

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Speaker 5: We have. A garbage happens to be left there. Uh Now,

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Speaker 5: let me ask you. I'd like to ask you guys

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Speaker 5: this question because Jeff and I talked about this when

447
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Speaker 5: we had lunch we amongst the writer friends of mine.

448
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Speaker 5: Did you when you guys obviously you were kids, and

449
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Speaker 5: when you're a kid, the future Monday is an unfathomable future.

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Speaker 5: So forget about thirty years. But did you have any

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Speaker 5: idea that this show would still have the emotional hold

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Speaker 5: on its fans that it does have?

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Speaker 4: Not at all.

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Speaker 3: Nope.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just discovering this now, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: So we start.

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Speaker 2: We started this podcast because we Andrew and I never

458
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Speaker 2: watched the show. We've never watched the entire show. We've

459
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Speaker 2: seen bits and pieces of episodes, probably the pilot and

460
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Speaker 2: you know, things here and there, but we have never

461
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Speaker 2: watched the series all the way through. So what's been

462
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Speaker 2: really interesting is to kind of have a fresh pair

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Speaker 2: of eyes as an audience rather you know, like we

464
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Speaker 2: have the memories of doing it, but to watch it

465
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Speaker 2: as an audience, and to do you know, this podcast

466
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Speaker 2: where we watch it pretty quickly in succession and you

467
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Speaker 2: really see the development of this family and of these

468
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Speaker 2: relationships and of the humor and of you know, kind

469
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Speaker 2: of when we really find our groove and I start

470
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Speaker 2: understanding why it has had the lasting effect that it has.

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Speaker 2: It's only they're kind of watching it as an audience.

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Speaker 2: Remember that, you go, yeah, you know, there. There was

473
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Speaker 2: just something special about this group of people, about this

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Speaker 2: show that it was.

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Speaker 5: You know, I totally agree, and I thought the same

476
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Speaker 5: thing that that show had. One of the it was

477
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Speaker 5: I worked on a couple of shows I had previously

478
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Speaker 5: mentioned frob which nobody remembers forty four episodes and that

479
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Speaker 5: was the end of it. But that cast was so

480
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Speaker 5: close that they used to spend lunch on the set,

481
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Speaker 5: and they had made up this game and they would

482
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Speaker 5: eat lunch while sitting on the sofa of the living

483
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Speaker 5: room set. And there were parties that if Diana Canova

484
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Speaker 5: was out from Connecticut and she was in la somebody

485
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Speaker 5: would have a party at that's for years after the

486
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Speaker 5: show was gone and forgotten, and the full house cast

487
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Speaker 5: with you know, the way John, Bob and Dave got

488
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Speaker 5: along and then Laurie came in and the way you guys,

489
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Speaker 5: it was one of the closest knit casts that I've

490
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Speaker 5: ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we've stayed in each other's lives like regularly,

492
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Speaker 2: not you know, but like seeing each other multiple times

493
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Speaker 2: a year, and you know, done all sorts of things together,

494
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Speaker 2: gone through all sorts of life experiences together. Still thirty

495
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Speaker 2: seven years later, like there's none of us have you know, Yeah,

496
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Speaker 2: it's and.

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Speaker 5: I think some of that somehow came across to the audience.

498
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Speaker 2: That that's what I've Yeah, that's what I've always said,

499
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Speaker 2: is that that magic the people of the show really were.

500
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Speaker 2: That was what people fell in love with, was the

501
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Speaker 2: genuine relationships that they saw reflected in these scenes. We

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Speaker 2: hope you enjoyed the first part of this interview as

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Speaker 2: much as we did, so stay tuned for part two,

504
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Speaker 2: airing this Friday. And remember, if you want to follow

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Speaker 2: us online, you can follow us at Instagram at how

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Speaker 2: Rude Podcast. You can also send us an email let

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Speaker 2: us know what you think if you got questions, you know,

508
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Speaker 2: whatever's on your mind at how Rudepodcast at.

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Speaker 4: Gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, Rich sure you're liking and subscribing to the

511
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: podcast also wherever you're listening to it so you can

512
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Speaker 2: get get part two when it comes out right away,

513
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Speaker 2: so you don't have to wait or look forward or

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Speaker 2: miss it.

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Speaker 4: You know, you don't want to do that.

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Speaker 2: Uh, And until next time, everybody, Remember, the world is small,

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Speaker 2: but my brain.

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Speaker 3: The pot is full of great guests.

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Speaker 4: They I don't know, I don't know why I can't

520
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Speaker 4: think on my feet today.

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Speaker 3: That's okay.

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Speaker 1: That's what we do when you're yeah, when when you

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Speaker 1: go low, I go high when yeah, this is I

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Speaker 1: don't know that.

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Speaker 2: That's what was Michelle Obama meant by that, but.

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Speaker 3: But okay, I'll repurpose it for when you're struggling.

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Speaker 2: I will pinch it for you. I thought you said

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Speaker 2: pinch it, like not pinch hit, but pinch it. And

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Speaker 2: I was like, pinch what my butt?

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Speaker 4: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: We'll do that too.

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Speaker 4: The world.

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Speaker 2: The world is small, but the house is overrun with

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Speaker 2: I don't know, too many thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Five five and to refill our coffee.

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Speaker 5: That part mm hmm