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Speaker 1: It's the Fread Show. Hey Carly, Hey, how's it going?

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Speaker 3: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Loud and clear, loud and clear, clear morning morning

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Speaker 2: to Carly. What's going on with this guy Chris?

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Speaker 4: Who?

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Speaker 2: I guess? Why don't you tell us how you met?

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Speaker 2: About any days you've been on? And then where things

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Speaker 2: are now?

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Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah, I don't know, man.

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Speaker 5: It was such a It was interesting because we met

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Speaker 5: on a dating app, and you know how those are,

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Speaker 5: like sometimes you get some.

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Speaker 3: But I met this guy Chris.

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Speaker 5: And she was super hot and he suggested that we

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Speaker 5: go on a weekend trip for our first day really,

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Speaker 5: and I just, yeah, isn't that wild?

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Speaker 1: That's kind of a bold thing.

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Speaker 2: So you meet a guy in a dating app and

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Speaker 2: he's like, let's go out of town immediately. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's that's how datelight episodes.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's how you end up dead.

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Speaker 1: But you were like, okay, you know, I was like, he's.

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Speaker 5: Super hot, and I thought, you know what, I'm just

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Speaker 5: going to take the risk. And I thought the worst

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Speaker 5: that could happen is we meet at the airport, he's.

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Speaker 3: Not who he said he was, and I leave.

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Speaker 5: And the wild thing is he ended up being totally

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Speaker 5: who he said he was, And you know, he had.

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Speaker 3: He had like hard friends on must protyle. He looked

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Speaker 3: like he did some things.

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Speaker 5: And we ended up going to New Orleans. We had

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Speaker 5: a great weekend. He was a gentleman, he paid for everything.

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Speaker 5: We had a great time and then and did the trip.

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Speaker 3: We hugged at the airport and I never.

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Speaker 1: Heard from him again.

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Speaker 2: Really, this dude took you to New Orleans and you're

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Speaker 2: saying that the trip went well and that he never

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Speaker 2: called you after the trip, Like that is that's a

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Speaker 2: wild story. I mean, you met a random stranger and

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Speaker 2: went on a trip. I will tell you this though, Carly.

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Speaker 2: When I'm first dating someone, if I think it's going

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Speaker 2: to go somewhere, which just doesn't happen very often, but

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Speaker 2: if I think it's going somewhere, I do kind of

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Speaker 2: rush the trip effort. Now, not like on the first date,

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Speaker 2: but you know, within like the first month or two,

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Speaker 2: because I think you can tell a lot about somebody

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Speaker 2: about how they travel and how you travel together. And

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Speaker 2: you know, are they the people that show up after

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Speaker 2: the flight already left?

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Speaker 1: The people? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: How much do they pack? You know, do they have

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Speaker 2: a TSA pre check or not? It's a huge deal

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Speaker 2: for her.

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Speaker 3: Well, now I'm wondering.

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Speaker 5: I agree, But now I am thinking, maybe there's a

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Speaker 5: reason when you did that after a month or two

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Speaker 5: and not the first time you've ever met.

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Speaker 1: But okay, so I get it totally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you go on a trip with this man and

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Speaker 2: you think it well, and then he never calls you again,

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Speaker 2: and you're like, what what on earth? So we're gonna

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Speaker 2: call this guy, Chris. We're going to ask these questions

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Speaker 2: on your behalf and try and figure this out in

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Speaker 2: the hope, of course, as always, is that we can

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Speaker 2: straighten this out. Maybe there's some good reason why he

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Speaker 2: hasn't called you, and and maybe you guys can go

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Speaker 2: out again. We're not paying for a trip, we don't

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Speaker 2: have that kind of money, but we'll pay for a

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Speaker 4: Sound good, okay?

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Speaker 5: I was.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Carly, all right, I always called this guy Chris,

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Speaker 2: you met on the dating apps, and and you just

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Speaker 2: described to us something that I really haven't heard maybe

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Speaker 2: ever in waiting by the phone. But you never met

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Speaker 2: the guy. You just messaged with him. You thought the

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Speaker 2: profile looked good. He asked you if you wanted to

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Speaker 2: met the guy at the airport and you went on

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Speaker 2: a trip for the weekend and you say it went

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Speaker 2: really well, and he was and he says he was

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Speaker 2: and the trip was a success. Except Carly, you told

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Speaker 2: us a minute ago you haven't heard from him.

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Speaker 3: Since then, you guys, exactly right as the airport.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is wild.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's call chrisye, we can get him on the phone,

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Speaker 2: figure out why he's ghosting you.

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Speaker 1: Now all right, good luck, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Hello.

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Speaker 2: Hi is this Chris Chris, Hi, good morning. My name

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Speaker 2: is Fred. I'm calling from the Fred's Show, the Morning

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Speaker 2: radio Show. I have to tell you the whole crew

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Speaker 2: is here, we are on the radio, and I would

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Speaker 2: need your permission to continue with the call. Can which

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Speaker 2: after for just a second, would you mind? Do you

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Speaker 2: have to do you? I mean, do you have to

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Speaker 2: use my last name? No, I'm not going to use

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Speaker 2: your last name. I don't even know your last name.

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Speaker 2: I'm only using your first name. Sure, so that's fine,

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Speaker 2: that's yeah, you're sure? Okay, Well, so no last name,

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Speaker 2: just Chris. But I'm calling on behalf of a woman

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Speaker 2: named Carly, who I guess you just went to New

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Speaker 2: Orleans with you met her on the internap and he

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Speaker 2: went to New Orleans. Do you remember this?

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Speaker 4: I hope I do remember that. Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, she reached out to us, had nice things

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Speaker 2: to say about you, said that, you know, she took

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Speaker 2: is nice, right, But she said you were good looking,

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Speaker 2: You were who you said you were. She said you

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Speaker 2: were a gentleman on the trip paid for everything. But

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Speaker 2: what she's wondering is why you haven't reached out for

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Speaker 2: another date, because in her opinion, everything went really well.

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Speaker 2: That was kind of a big risk and everybody went

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Speaker 2: for it. And here we are. Why are you calling her?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's like this, Okay, she I like.

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Speaker 6: To go big, you know obviously, I mean it's not

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Speaker 4: That is, that is a big thing. And she said yes.

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Speaker 6: And for me, when somebody says that, that means something,

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Speaker 4: So like, yeah, what I.

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Speaker 6: Saw at the airport, everything was lining up. She was hot,

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Speaker 6: just like you know, just like I expected. She was

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Speaker 6: willing to take a risk, which is attractive, and everything

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Speaker 6: looked like it was going to be a great weekend.

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Speaker 1: So I was.

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Speaker 6: But she, I mean, let me just lay it out here.

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Speaker 6: She didn't want to stay in the same hotel room

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Speaker 4: That's pretty common knowledge that that is like part of

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Speaker 1: Well, what do you hold on a second, let's stop

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Speaker 2: So when did you learn that she wasn't going to

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Speaker 2: stay in the same hotel room as you like, was

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Speaker 2: that part of the Hey, I'll go with you on

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Speaker 2: this trip, and here are the rules, Like did you

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Speaker 6: No, when we got to the hotel is when I

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Speaker 6: found out. And it's fine, you know, I'm like, like,

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Speaker 6: you know, I'm willing to pay for everything. But I mean,

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Speaker 6: number one, it was inconvenient. I found out right when

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Speaker 6: I'm getting.

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Speaker 4: To the hotel. You know, I could have gotten that information.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it would have screwed up the whole thing

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Speaker 6: from the get go, but I mean it still would

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Speaker 6: have been better to get that information early. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: right when we get to the hotel, I find out,

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Speaker 6: and you know, we kind of went back and forth

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Speaker 4: That is what I would say. We got like two beds.

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Speaker 7: In the same room, which is weird, you know, And

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Speaker 7: she didn't show any affection, you know, because I flew

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Speaker 7: her pay for everything, you know, and I just nothing happened,

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Speaker 7: like there was no reciprocal action at all.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you didn't there was nothing physical, You didn't

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Speaker 2: you didn't have any adult interaction of the naked kit. Uh,

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Speaker 2: it's what you're saying. And you're and you so and

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Speaker 2: and and you suggested that if you had known that,

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Speaker 2: You kind of alluded to how maybe this trip wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have even happened if you had known from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Mm hm yes, okay, we agree. We agree with that.

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Speaker 2: So so basically, because you paid for everything and she

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Speaker 2: supposed to be other things that happened like that was

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Speaker 2: just implied by this. He never said that, Oh well,

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Speaker 2: there's Carl. I forgot to mention Carl's here. I'm very

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Speaker 2: forgetful Carly, Chris, you guys know each other. But I

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Speaker 2: want to get to this part. So I just want

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Speaker 2: to be clear. I don't want to mischaracterize here. You

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Speaker 2: you said, hey, let's go on a trip. I'll pay

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Speaker 2: for everything. But it wasn't It had conditions, they were

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Speaker 6: In my opinion, it's common knowledge. That is a common

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Speaker 6: taken my buddy. It's common knowledge.

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Speaker 4: You go you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So back to you, Carly, it's common knowledge, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean you heard the man.

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Speaker 3: Uh no way, Well, I'm sorry, there's nothing we've just met.

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Speaker 3: We go on a trip, there's no set precedent for that.

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Speaker 3: I look on a neuralogy.

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Speaker 8: You have some drinks, you needed a bar, you can

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Speaker 8: make it. We literally get on a plane, we go

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Speaker 8: straight to a hotel and I'm going after some sort

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Speaker 8: of contingency here.

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Speaker 3: And we didn't talk about it.

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Speaker 5: You sort of made a very bloss minute choice, like

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Speaker 5: there what we didn't talk particulately.

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Speaker 3: They just said we're gonna throw feel it out.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's what you say.

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Speaker 6: If you didn't want to get you know, intimate, you

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Speaker 6: shouldn't have agreed to the trip, like it's I would never,

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Speaker 6: I would never.

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Speaker 4: Pressure you didn't.

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Speaker 1: You didn't.

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Speaker 3: You didn't pressure me on trip. You didn't say anything.

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Speaker 5: You made it sound like you were totally having a

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Speaker 5: good a good time, Like I wasn't even aware that

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Speaker 5: you were upset until I didn't hear from you.

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Speaker 3: You didn't say anything either. Nobody let you go you.

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Speaker 3: I can promise you that nobody said that.

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Speaker 6: Like you want a free car and you went to

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Speaker 2: No, I want me who got a freakka?

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Speaker 1: What happened?

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Speaker 2: He's the thing. She owes you nothing. Chris Let's didn't

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Speaker 5: Your code, whether they travel or not, though, like even

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Speaker 1: Owes you nothing. Nobody owes you anything now now here,

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Speaker 4: There's a code.

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Speaker 2: I will say this, though, I suppose that it might

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Speaker 2: didn't owe you anything. This was not an this is

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Speaker 2: not this is not a you're not buying things so

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Speaker 2: that she does other things. That's there's a there's a

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Speaker 2: and that's something that happens other places, but I don't

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Speaker 1: I will accept this trip. I'm excited to go.

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Speaker 2: I just want you to know, you know, nothing is

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not clear. I'm not defending you.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just trying to say that I understand

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Speaker 2: But she doesn't owe you anything, man, She owes you nothing.

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Speaker 6: You know, I in my mind, like I said, there's

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Speaker 4: I didn't put any pressure she agreed to go.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I was misled.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you were misled. I think you took

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Speaker 3: I mean definitely not now.

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Speaker 9: But that's all that I said before was no rules,

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Speaker 3: Like you're right, like he didn't indicate. So for me,

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Speaker 5: He was having a good time and this is what

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Speaker 4: So this is a blatant example of me being used?

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Speaker 1: Is what this is?

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Speaker 8: You me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I will use you.

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Speaker 5: So you don't even know her name, you don't know

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Speaker 1: Did I mean, she knows.

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Speaker 4: I don't know her favorite color, right, she she knows

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Speaker 1: New Orleans, and I don't blame a city. Girls are okay.

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Speaker 2: You you swung being and I respect the move. I

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm not angry.

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Speaker 4: I'm not angry. I'm not angry.

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Speaker 6: I'm I'm disappointed and I feel used, and.

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Speaker 4: I'm just not really.

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Speaker 3: That a first date is the first date.

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Speaker 5: And if you were like you may not come on

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Speaker 3: You didn't say it, right.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I didn't.

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Speaker 4: You don't have to say it. You don't have to say.

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Speaker 1: It if you read the.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know what's ever read

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Speaker 4: Uh. It's implied. We flew, we flew to a different

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Speaker 1: We didn't go.

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Speaker 3: On the first date. You didn't present yourself that way.

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Speaker 5: You never said anything, and to me even implied that

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Speaker 5: that's like, there are dates that are very clearly we're

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Speaker 3: The only thing on his mind, and you were very

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Speaker 4: That's every date. That's every date you that's an every date.

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Speaker 1: Okay, because here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: If Chris had been like, hey, so we're getting it on, well,

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Speaker 2: could have been a very unromantic conversation about ground rules

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Speaker 2: common human decency, which did happen, but all the while

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Speaker 2: he's mad about it and now he won't go out

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Speaker 2: But look, she doesn't want to go out with you again. Rince,

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Speaker 2: I don't think you were used. Took a shot and

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Speaker 2: it didn't work. I wish you the best Friday. I

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Speaker 2: wish you the best as well.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, thank you,