1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: It is episode of the Fast podcast available on Jason 2 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: Gibbs alongside Andrew Gribble, and it's the final one before 3 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: the Memorial Day weekend. Week ten of being in quarantine. 4 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: We put out twenty six episodes Gribbs Gris. We told 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: the people upstairs we were only gonna do like thirty 6 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: the entire year, and that kind of training camp and 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: the draft d p A. We've exceeded expectations. Yeah, we 8 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: we have taken it to another level. And I think 9 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: it's it's it's amazing though. I think this this the 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: Zoom situation. It opens up your schedule a little more. 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: We've been able to tape at all different hours. I mean, 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: it's it's coming coming handy when turning out podcasts. That 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: you're able to do more when you're in this situation, 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: I think than you can when you're in the office. Yes, yes, 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: although I am ready to uh, I am ready to 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: go back to the office. I believe you are as well. Yeah, 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: I am. Uh. Well, we'll see, we'll see when that 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: happens with our someone's gotta watch my kids, so we'll 19 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: we'll see how long that. We'll see see how long 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: that last got you. I understand all right, coming up 21 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: on the program today, see only Taki Taki Browns linebacker 22 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: gonna be in the mix. A lot expected from year 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: one to year two. Our own Andrew Gribble had a 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: chance to sit down with him earlier in the program, 25 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,919 Speaker 1: earlier in the day to take and we're looking forward 26 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: to that. Uh. And Gribbs a guy a lot is 27 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: expected of here in uh, not just from a defensive standpoint, 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: but one would think on special teams as well. Yeah, 29 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, he he was. I thought he was pretty 30 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: good on special teams last year, and I think it's weird. 31 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: There's a couple of things of Taki Taki. First off, 32 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: you remember he was like he came out like a 33 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: bat out of hell at the start of training camp 34 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: and was just making huge hits. He was ruffling some feathers. 35 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: But even but then he got injured and that was 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: a pretty significant injury. He missed basically most of the 37 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: preseason after that. And then secondly, even if he was healthy, 38 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if he was going to be in 39 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: line for playing all that much because he was backing 40 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: up Joe Schobert, and Joe Schobert stayed healthy, whereas mack 41 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: Wilson was backing up Christian Kirksey, and then Kirksey gets hurt. 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: So mack Wilson got the opportunity at a position he 43 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: knew well, whereas Taki Taki had to kind of fight 44 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: for some snaps here and there when they came about, 45 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: whether it be on special teams or kind of spelling 46 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: show bird, or when they used three linebackers, which wasn't 47 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: all that often. So I almost think he gets a 48 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: bad rap for his first season just because he wasn't 49 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: able to play as much as mack Wilson was. So 50 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: I I do think he's very much in the mix 51 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: of season. Looking forward to that interview coming up here 52 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 1: in just a few moments. But the latest news and notes, uh, 53 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: the Browns preseason schedule is officially out Gribbs. Uh. A 54 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: much different schedule than we've seen in the past. One 55 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: National TV game in Week three against the Vikings at home, 56 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: but Saturday afternoons. I hope you like that, and I 57 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: hope you have those free Brownze fans because that's when 58 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: you're going to be playing the preseason football games. Yeah, 59 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: I like this, And I don't know when the NFL 60 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: decided to embrace daytime during the preseason, and I think 61 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: it's great. I mean, I don't know why we were 62 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: operating under a situation where all these games were crammed 63 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: at night. I think it makes a lot of sense. 64 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: So I was thrilled to see we had one last 65 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: year with the Colts. If I if I'm I was 66 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: a four o'clock kick, But otherwise I think they were 67 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: all night games last year. But these are slowly crept 68 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: into being normal now. Now you're dealing with a one 69 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: pm kick to start the preseason Newton Local in Chicago. 70 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: I think it's great. It feels more like the regular season, 71 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: Like I can get you in more of a routine 72 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: that you'll that will be more similar to the preseason. 73 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: And for someone who's traveled for these preseason games the 74 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: last five years, I mean, nothing drains you more than 75 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: a road trip where you're playing a night game. And 76 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: it's just like when it's the preseason, it's like, what's 77 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 1: the point, Like why are we doing this to ourselves 78 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: for a preseason game. Let's let's make this more like 79 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: the regular season and let's get you in and out 80 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: of your location in a shorter amount of time. I 81 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: think it's great. I think it will be interesting with 82 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: that dress rehearsal game being on Sunday and then to 83 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: have to turn around and play on Thursday. I guess 84 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: one would have to think that we will definitely not 85 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: see a lot of the starters in that fourth preseason 86 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: game with such a quick turn around. Zero. I mean, 87 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: I just, I mean, that's the way it's been the 88 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: last couple of years, and it's it's hard to even 89 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: find guys that are playing in that game who end 90 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: up making the team. I mean, that's you obviously play 91 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: some people because you gotta fill out the roster, but 92 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: that that's that's the showcase game for guys that are 93 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: that are hoping to get some good football on tape 94 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: and potentially move on to their next location or or 95 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: or fight for for practice squad spots. Yeah. It it 96 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: will be interesting to see you their first two road games, uh, 97 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: first two games of the preseason on the road at 98 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: Chicago and then at Green Bay, and then you come 99 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: home from Minnesota and there's that Tampa Bay game. But 100 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: good news they got to travel for us now, Yeah, exactly, 101 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: And as you'd be excited for Tampa for all the 102 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: obvious reasons, except all the obvious reasons aren't going to 103 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,239 Speaker 1: be playing in that game. What are the Vegas odds 104 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: of Tom Brady playing in that last game? Uh? Could 105 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: you bet a dollar and win a billion to to 106 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: make that happen because he ain't playing? No, No, not 107 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: at all. It will be an interesting Week four of 108 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: the preseason, but at least it's at home and not 109 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: on the road. I do think maybe do we get 110 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: the national buzz of Tampa Bay coming over like because 111 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: that they're they're the team this year? Does that does 112 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: that even work in the preseason or will we feel 113 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: that when when they're in town. It's a great question 114 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: Jen at that point, and I think I speak for 115 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: both of us when we're when we say we get 116 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: done with that third preseason game and we just go, okay, 117 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: let's just fast forward to UH to the cutdown day 118 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: and then let's play some real football. Yeah, that's where 119 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: we're at. UH. J C. Tread Or spent some time 120 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: with the Cleveland media this week as the UH offseason 121 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: virtual workouts continue and spoke for twenty minutes. Had a 122 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: lot to say about a lot of different things, and 123 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: not just as the Brown Center, but as the president 124 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: of the of the Players Union. Uh. Your takeaways from J. C. 125 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: Trader in his meeting with the media the other day, 126 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: I mean less. I think the key thing is you 127 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: and I have gotten to know j C. Now for 128 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and we know how smart 129 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: of a guy this is. I mean, this is a 130 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: brilliant guy plan that just happens to to play football. 131 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,119 Speaker 1: And I think when it when he talks, it's clear 132 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: why he is now in this role with the NFL 133 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: p A. Uh. He has a lot to offer and 134 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: I think he that was the theme to me where 135 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: he's he's working on learning a new playbook, but he's 136 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: also looking out for what's best for these players, uh 137 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: and taking his new role very seriously. I thought he 138 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: did a great job of kind of uh, not really 139 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: taking a side, but informing everyone before that major vote 140 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: that seems to be lost to history because it happened 141 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: right before the quarantine went into effects, but that passing that, 142 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: I mean passing the c b A at that point 143 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: in time. Had that not passed, I mean, think of 144 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: all the uncertainty that that's hanging over the league right 145 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: now with just the schedule, mean that that would be 146 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: another wrinkle added to the equation right now that that 147 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: doesn't have to deal with. So I think it's it's 148 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: the NFL is and good. The players Association is in 149 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: good hands of J. C. Treyner. That's my takeaway on that, 150 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: because I think he's taking the job seriously. Uh. He 151 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: he just it just shows he's applying himself so much 152 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: more because he has a lot to offer, and I 153 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: think that he was the right guy for the job. 154 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: And again, they're in good hands. And I think when 155 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: he was talking about all the stuff that I think 156 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: he was rightly bringing up all the stuff involving players 157 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: and getting back in buildings because I think, you know, 158 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: a lot of the focuses on these games happening and 159 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: fans and everything like that, but you know, the players 160 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: want to be have a be thought of as well, 161 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: and I think that's that's fair, and I think it's 162 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: it's great to hear from from his perspective as well. Yeah. Now, 163 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: I think the uh one of the biggest non union, 164 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: non coronavirus takeaways from is twenty minutes with the with 165 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: the media. He is a big, big fan of Jack Conklin. Yeah, 166 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: and and and he's he's taken on that mentorship role, 167 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: maybe more so than he was than he could in 168 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: the past. And I think that what he has in 169 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: in these two new rookies and Jetrick Wills and Nick Harris, 170 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: they're willing learners and I think they want to help 171 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: out as best as possible. And I think the mental 172 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: aspect of all this is so much more important than 173 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: maybe it has been in years past because of the situation. 174 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: And also, you know, JC just signed his contract extension. 175 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: He this is he's a he's an established NFL veteran. 176 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: When he came here three years ago, he was he 177 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: signed it a good contract, but he was also trying 178 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: to prove himself. I think he had. He had come 179 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: up some some injury plague seasons in Green Bay. You know, 180 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: now he's established. This is a guy that's made his 181 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: his his earning in the NFL, and I think there's 182 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: a layer of being comfortable with where he's at and 183 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: being able to help these guys even more. Yeah, and 184 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: there's a lot to be determined, and he said it himself, 185 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: there's no point in making decisions on what's going to 186 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: happen with the league right now. There's still plenty of time. 187 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: We are in May. It's coming quickly, but there's still 188 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: a lot of things to be figured out and some 189 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: things that could make life a little bit easier for 190 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: everyone in terms of football coming back in Yeah, I 191 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: think again, as he said, he's going by a two 192 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: week at a time approach, and I think that's the 193 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: that's that's advice that could be applied to all walks 194 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: of life, not just in the NFL. Right now, Yeah, 195 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: no question about it. All right. Time to hear from 196 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: our linebacker Siona Taki. Taki had a chance to sit 197 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: down with Andrew Gribble. We appreciate him taking the time 198 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: to do that in amongst his virtual workouts in virtual 199 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: offseason meetings. Have a watch and have a listen. All right, 200 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: We're joining here by Brown's linebackers Siona Taki. Taki and Siona, 201 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: how is uh? How's life been for you these last 202 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: couple of months, going through the off season program without 203 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: seeing any of your teammates in person. Yeah, it's been crazy, 204 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: just because I know that we should, you know, should 205 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: be back in Cleveland right now, but um, just I 206 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: feel like this time it's just been weird for everybody. 207 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: You know, the whole world has been affected by this. UM. 208 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: But it's been good. You know, also just spending extra 209 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: time with my wife and my family, getting to see 210 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: them for a little extra time before we um, you know, 211 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: jet back to Cleveland. So it's been good. And yeah, 212 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: it run me through your kind of daily routine. Is 213 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: this started to feel normal though? Now with with the 214 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: way with meetings and everything like that. Yeah, it's it's 215 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: it's gotten normal. I wake up my workouts. I'm in 216 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: Utah right now, so I'm two hours from uh, I'm 217 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: on West Coast time. But anyways, I wake up our 218 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: seven work out from like seven to thirty. Then I 219 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: get home and kind of review me and all the 220 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: stuff that the coaches kind of you know, installed for 221 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: the day. Watch over that until twelve thirty until meetings. UM. 222 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: Usually it's kind of fresh on my mind. And then um, 223 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, govert with coach tar Vit, coach Bloom Bravo, 224 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: and then um, also you know all the other linebackers. 225 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: It's been good to to to talk to them over 226 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: zoom and hang out. Have you learned something about yourself 227 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: and the way you learn because you've been challenged this way? Yeah, 228 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: I feel like I learned better this way, you know, 229 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: I feel like them doing the videos, I was able 230 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: to pick it up quicker just because I'm one on 231 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: one in the room, nice and quiet. Um. You know, 232 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: you kind of just lock yourself, you know, lock yourself 233 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: out and kind of just drop down on the notes. 234 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: And I felt like, you know, um, even though I 235 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: had to year, you know, to to learn all this stuff, 236 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: I definitely felt like this, this way of my learning 237 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: is definitely benefiting me. And what's the camaraderie been like 238 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: in these Zoom meetings? How is it? How do you 239 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: guys joke around you together? Or how does that? How 240 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: does that work? Yeah, it's fun. We got Coach Tar, 241 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: He's a cool, relaxed guy, you know, definitely throwing jokes 242 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: out there. And then we got Mac and Uh and 243 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: Willie in the room to who are really funny guys 244 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: who always keep the room on nice and comba. It's 245 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: been good, man. We all been you know, busting jokes, 246 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: chopping it up to each other, but definitely getting after 247 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: the playbook part, you know what I mean, and making 248 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: sure just over this last you know, month or two 249 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: that we've been doing these Zoom meetings, just everybody's been 250 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, you know, doing well picking up everything um 251 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: that the coach is teaching. And it's been good. I 252 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: know that when when you're getting drafted and going through 253 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: that process, everyone talks about how that that time period 254 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: is like the craziest few months. It's kind of NonStop, 255 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: and then you really get the rest. In your first 256 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: off season after your rookie year. What's what's that been 257 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: like and how has that been different? Uh, compare yourself 258 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: this year to to what you were feeling at this 259 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: time last year. Yeah, just and I feel I feel 260 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: more prepared. I don't know if that sounds not not 261 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: that I wasn't prepared last year, but just going in 262 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: this year mindset wise and and XS and os and 263 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: and the little things that I needed to work on, 264 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Just um, you know, I 265 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: feel like this year, this offseason, I could definitely just 266 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: tune into those things and and um, you know, tune 267 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: up all the stuff that I needed to work on 268 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: personally and on the field, off the field whatever it was. 269 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: Um from last year. You know, you know last year 270 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: I was preparing combine stuff, you know forty and doing 271 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: all that stuff, preparing a lot of time and that 272 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: from this year just specifically football drills and whatnot and 273 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: m Yeah, you know how different is that preparating because 274 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: obviously you're trying to get yourself in the best shape 275 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: of your life at this time last year and what 276 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: how how different are those things that you're doing. Yeah, 277 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: it's it's real different, just because you know, like I said, 278 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: you're kind of working out for you know, to test, 279 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: to do you know, certain drills, certain numbers, um. At 280 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: the combine, you know, you're spending a lot of time 281 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: working on on your forty yard dash, you know, interview 282 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: process with teams and stuff. You're kind of focusing your 283 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: time on that. Coming in as a rookie from from 284 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: this year, you know, you're focus on um, all the 285 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: stuff that you needed that you know you need to 286 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: work on going into year two knowing that, Okay, you know, 287 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: I need to get this stuff better. UM. You know. 288 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: And one thing for me, you know, it was just 289 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: excess excess and those you know, alignment assignments, little things 290 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: like that. I was able to pick up the defense 291 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: so quickly just because I had a year under my 292 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: belt just to learn from you know, even coach hold 293 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: them all the old old coaches and then carry on 294 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: to you know, coach Tarvin those guys, and so it's 295 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: been a night and day. How different is that linebacker 296 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: room right now without Shobert and Kirksey? What? What's the how? 297 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: How does it feeling? What's how is taking on its 298 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: own identity right now? Yeah? I feel like, you know, 299 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: we're still all messing. You know, it's a it's a 300 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: different kind of feeling. You know, with Kirk go and 301 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: show where those guys are. Are two you know guys 302 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: that have been playing you know, vets Um established herself 303 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: well in the in the league, and and uh, we're 304 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: able to lean on those guys, you know, just because 305 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: they're the older guys in the room, has been through it, 306 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: you know, asking a ton of questions. I feel like 307 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: this year, you know, we got b J who's been 308 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: playing you know, five or six years in the league 309 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: and and he's kind of been that you know Vet 310 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: in the room, you know, kind of just direct us 311 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: what he thinks and whatnot. But I feel like, you know, me, 312 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: Mac and the rest of the guys who got who 313 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: got a union? The bill also you know, kind of 314 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: step up to the play and then kind of run 315 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: the room or you know, and and all the other 316 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: other guys. You know, we got Jake ub and um, 317 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: you know the other rookie that came in. Who are 318 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: who are who are picking up the defense? And I 319 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: feel like as time goes on, I feel like, well 320 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: we'll definitely mention you know more and figure each other out. 321 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: You know, but it's kind of weird, you know, to 322 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: kind of uh you know, fill it through zoom meetings, 323 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, get back to the building, 324 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: you know what. Definitely, you know, buy more than what 325 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: you know we've been given. What kind of confidence does 326 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: it say that the organization is is going with you 327 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: young guys in that room, And does that kind of 328 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: uh boost your confidence about about heading into this year 329 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: that they feel good with you guys right now? Yeah. 330 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: I feel like you're always got to have the confidence 331 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: on the shoulder to play at a high level like this. 332 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: So I'm confident in all the guys in the room 333 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: man myself and Matt Willie, you know, b J, Jacob, 334 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: all the other guys that's that's in the room, Um, 335 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: that we can go and and make a splash. I 336 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: feel like we've got a lot to prove I feel 337 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: like a lot of people are counting us out. But 338 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: we like that, you know, we like to chip on 339 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: the show that we can continue to keep our head down, 340 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: continue to work, continue to get better in the Zoom meetings, 341 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: and uh, keep attacking this offseason until they tell us 342 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: his time. You know, you mentioned the part about being 343 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: countered out. How much is that stuff kind of penetrated 344 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: your guys group like it is? And then how much 345 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: is that driving you guys? I feel like not not 346 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: not too much? You know, you do you tend to 347 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: not pay attention that stuff. You know. Uh, I feel 348 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: like I've always been underdog my whole story, so that alone, 349 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: you know, I just carry that, you know, with everything 350 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: I do. But um, you know, I definitely don't focus 351 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: in on all the negative stuff though, you know what 352 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: I mean? How much how different is this defense for 353 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: you compared to last year? Is it like learning a 354 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: brand new defense or is it kind of similar in 355 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: what you're Uh? Yeah, it's real similar, just different verbage. Um. 356 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: You know, once you pick up a scheme and in 357 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: the NFL um you know, a defense, it's easy for 358 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: I feel like just going into this year, it's so 359 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: it's so easy to pick up, you know, the next defense, 360 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: because it's all the same alignments, assignments, drops, you know, 361 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: final three, final two, it's just all different verbage. Um. 362 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: But once you get the verbage down and continue to 363 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: go over the play calls and where and where you align, 364 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: where your threats are, where your you know, issues are 365 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: in the defense, you'll be totally fine. What do you 366 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: like most about what you've seen so far? UM? I 367 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: feel like, uh, that's a it's a it's a simple 368 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: defense that uh, you know, obviously, you've gotta know where 369 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: you're line, you gotta know where your threats are. But 370 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: once you figure that out, you can fly around and 371 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: make plays, uh, play fast out there. And I feel 372 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of guys that got a lot 373 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: of you know, just in the linebacker room, is a 374 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: lot of talent that who can make place. And then 375 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: when you were able to get on the field last year, 376 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: mostly in the second half of the season, how valuable 377 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: were those snaps towards what you're looking forward to this year? Yeah? 378 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: Extremely valuable. You know, you want to get out there 379 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: and and feel the game time experience. I feel like, 380 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: you know, like you said, I started playing more towards 381 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, the second half of the season because I 382 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: kind of because I started to get you know, I 383 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't say comfortable, but you know I start to um, 384 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: you know, fill it out and start to become you 385 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: know football, you know what I've been playing. But m yeah, 386 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: extremely important. You know now I can build on that 387 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: what I what I learned last year, you know, go 388 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: ending the season, going into this season and you know, 389 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: make a bang. How much fun do you have on 390 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: special teams last year? Sons of fun? Man special teams? Man, 391 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: don't sleep on special teams. Special teams is important thing 392 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: for you know, for for a team, for an organization. 393 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: You know, you definitely, you know, you get those plays 394 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: out there. You gotta go out there and make you know, 395 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: make make a play here and there wherever it is, kickoff, 396 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: kick return, um, go out there and do your part. 397 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: What's been the bond like between you and Mac? I 398 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: mean you guys have been in the same draft class, 399 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: roommates and everything like that. What what's that bond been like? 400 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: And how has that helped you through your first year 401 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL? Yeah, I feel like, uh, like you said, 402 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,719 Speaker 1: we're coming in as linebackers together. And then that class 403 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: is definitely you know, Um brought that bond together because 404 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: you know we came in together. But I feel like 405 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: just over the year, you know, we were roommates you 406 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: know during training captain roommates during the season, uh, when 407 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: we actually live by each other, so you know, just growing, 408 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: growing that relationship off the field than on the field. 409 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: That has been great, dude, Um and see him, see 410 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: him ball out last year, you know what I mean, 411 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: he definitely grew a lot um and he's gonna have 412 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: a big year too, you know this year coming up. 413 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: You know, be on the lookout for five long. How 414 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: do you guys compliment each other when you're on the field, 415 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: Like what what does he do? Well? It's funny. Uh yeah, 416 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: we complimented our our type. We talk a lot of 417 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, we talked a lot of stuff to each other. Man. 418 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: That's kind of me and him, you know, even though 419 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: you know we have that bond, we always you know, 420 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: talking a lot of crap in the zoom meetings, uh, 421 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: in the film room wherever we can. But nah, I 422 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: feel like him. He's he's he's a he's a guy. 423 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: He could do both. He could play the run, he 424 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: could play the past and I feel like I'm just 425 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: having that year under his belt. He's gonna go into 426 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: year two, you know for a big one. I know 427 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: you probably already talked to him a lot, but as 428 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: someone who was a third round linebacker last year, you 429 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: got Jacob Polks in the room this year, what's the 430 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: biggest piece of advice that you would you want to 431 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: give that give him in this situation. And maybe you 432 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: that that the one that hit you the most when 433 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: you were coming in the league in his position. Yeah, 434 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: just I feel like Jacob is uh far from where 435 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: I was coming in. I feel like um him him 436 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: and being able to pick up you know, the the 437 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: the defense pretty well has been good, you know, just 438 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: being in the Zoom meetings, I would say that was 439 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: that's the biggest one. If you if you know where 440 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: the line and you know your assignments and whatnot. Football's football. 441 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: You get out there and make plays, but you gotta 442 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: know what you know, you gotta know what to do. 443 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: And that would be my biggest advice to Jacob, you 444 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And and and he's been doing 445 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: really well in Zoom meeting. It's picking everything up, So 446 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: it's been good. And then you're you're a guy that 447 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: clearly loves playing the game. Your excitement is pretty clear 448 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: when you're out in the field. I mean, what what 449 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: do you think about when you're when you're thinking about 450 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: that first time you can actually get back out there, 451 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: and and and and even though you're not going through 452 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: it now like this, this long wait to get back 453 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: on the field, what what's that been like for you? Yeah, 454 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: it's been. It's been. It's been kind kind of funny. 455 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: You know, usually you don't wait this long until to 456 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: to be around some football. But you know, I just 457 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: let it build up. You know, I feel like we're 458 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: going into the season. I got a lot to prove, 459 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: so um, you know, I can't wait to get back 460 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: with the guys. You know, being being around in the 461 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: locker room, man, the bus rides, all that stuff is 462 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: is exciting. I can't wait to get back there and 463 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: help the team any way possible. And just overall, what 464 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: have you thought about the moves on on defense and 465 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: kind of the new faces in a lot of different 466 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: different places and what you guys might be able to 467 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: build beyond the linebacker room right now? Yeah, it's man, 468 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: it's been good. You know, the coaches that came in. 469 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, there's a lot of players 470 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: that are coming back from last year. I feel like 471 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: with the build on last year because we've got a 472 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: really extremely good, talented defense, and I feel like we're 473 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: putting all the puzzles together, and you know, with with 474 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: hard work and through the zoom meetings and and I 475 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: know once we get back in the building, that will 476 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: carry on. So um, you know, we get all those 477 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: puzzles together. Man, we we got we got something great, alright, Sony. 478 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you taking the time for us and 479 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: then looking forward to seeing you back in the facility 480 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: whenever we can where we can get that done. Yes, sir, Hey, 481 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: thanks for let him come on. Thanks again to see 482 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: Ony Taki Taki, Brown's linebacker for a few minutes of 483 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: his time Gribbs around the league. Adam Shine nfl dot 484 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: Com tries to predict the NFL's next great dynasty. So 485 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: he's got nine teams that are eligible for this. At 486 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: number nine are on Cleveland Browns and his his comments 487 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: of this, this is not a drill, people. Cleveland now 488 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: has a bright general manager, a qualified coach, a quarterback 489 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: entering year three as a starter and gobs of talent. 490 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: It's the Browns time to shine. The chip is back 491 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: on Baker Mayfield's shoulder following a highly disappointing two thousand 492 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: nineteen campaign. With a loaded offensive cast around him and 493 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: an upgraded Kevin Stefanski like coaching staff in his ear, 494 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: Mayfield should be voice for a major bounce back in 495 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: and Cleveland has the youth to become a force for 496 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: years to come. Nice to see coming off a six 497 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: and ten season that not everybody's burying the Cleveland Browns 498 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: after last year. No, And I think it comes down to, 499 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, obviously there's a lot to prove here, but 500 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: when you have the core pieces that the Browns have, 501 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: and I think that's what Andrew Berry has talked about 502 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: a lot, what Kevin Stefanci's talked about a lot. There's 503 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: obviously areas on this roster to issue, but when you 504 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: have an elite pass rusher quarterback you believe can be 505 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: elite uh in Baker Mayfield, who's still very young, and 506 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: an elite corner in the in in Denzel Ward. Those 507 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: are great players at the early parts of their career 508 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: at one of at the most important positions on the field, 509 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: and I think that alone puts you in good shape. 510 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: So I think that to me, again, lots to prove, 511 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: but I think that's why you can qualify the Browns 512 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: as a team that is set up potentially for long 513 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: term success, which I think is what he's going at 514 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: in this art. All Right, So gonna give you the 515 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: other teams on his list. We will say yea or 516 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: nay to Adam Shine and his predictions of the NFL's 517 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: next great dynasty, the Tennessee Titans. Yea or nay? Gribbs, Yes, 518 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: I just I can't get behind Tannel with your quarterback situation. 519 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: That's that's the one thing. And two when your identity 520 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: is tied to a running back and and the power 521 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: running and what he's able to do control games. That's 522 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: again Derrick Henry is great, but he's already been in 523 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: the league a few years. You wonder how long that 524 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: type of offense and that type of just the ability 525 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: to run people over, how long that lasts? And you 526 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: you let Jack Calkland go. Is that offensive line in 527 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: me as good next year? I have questions. I have 528 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: questions about them this season, let alone in the future. Yeah, 529 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: My whole thing with the Titans. I look at them 530 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: and I go, were they one of those teams that 531 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: just everything fell their way that last year. I'm not 532 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: saying they're totally lucky, because they have a good coach 533 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: and I like some of the pieces that they have, 534 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: but I just wonder, did everything go right this past 535 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: season front of them to make that an FC championship. Yeah, 536 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: I just I wonder about just the core pieces. I 537 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: think that's my my issue because they've They've hit on 538 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: some draft picks the last couple of years. I think 539 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons was a great pick for them, helped them 540 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: a lot down the stretch. A J. Brown, they obviously 541 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: got great value out of him. But their last few 542 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: first round picks, basically from sixteen on or either not 543 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: on the team or they're not core pieces. I think 544 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: Corey Davis obviously hasn't been as good as they thought 545 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: he would be. Rashaan Evans is is fine, is a 546 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: linebacker for them, and I think that Harold Lander has 547 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: been solid. But I don't know if you you lump 548 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: them in, is like these core people you build around 549 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: moving forward. So I just need to see more. Do 550 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: I think the Titans have a chance to win the 551 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: division again this year. Yeah, I just don't know about 552 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: the long term pieces in place until I see better 553 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: at quarterback the l A Chargers, he's got yea or 554 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: nay to a potential dynasty. I mean, I like him 555 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: better than the Titans long term, But it all depends 556 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: on how good Justin Herbert is. I think that's the key. 557 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers have been one of those teams 558 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: that consistently, year after year have had such talented players 559 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: but have underachieved. And I think that they have talented 560 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: players and spots Joey Bosa on defense, they got the 561 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: great wide receivers, great skill players at running back uh 562 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: And and Philip Rivers was solid for a while, but 563 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: just couldn't get them over the humps. So this all 564 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: falls on the shoulders of Justin Herbert. If he's good 565 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: as advertiser, even better. But sure, I think they've got 566 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: a lot of pieces in place on both sides of 567 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: the ball to be really good. It just all depends 568 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: on the quarterback. Yeah, I just wonder how they go 569 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: about paying some of those stars on defense whose contracts 570 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: are gonna be coming up here sooner rather than later. Yeah, 571 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, yea or nay. You know, I'll go 572 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: I'll go yea on this one. And it's it really again. 573 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a broken record here. It all depends 574 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 1: on Josh Allen. It all depends on the quarterback. Can 575 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: he take the next step and elevate them? But I 576 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: think the thing I like about the Bills is they've 577 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: got a good culture in place, They've got a good coach, 578 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: They've got good talented players on both sides of the ball. 579 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: They know how to win games in a lot of 580 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: different ways. And now you see what they're doing with 581 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs. Now they're throwing the talent into the culture, 582 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: basically an elevating a team that maybe is overachieving and 583 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: now trying to get them to a level where they 584 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: can be elite every year. So I like what the 585 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: Bills are doing, So I'll go yea on their potential. 586 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: I would go yea for exactly what you just said. 587 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: In terms of building things, McDermott's done a nice job. 588 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: They have some really nice little pieces. I'm a little 589 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: concerned how Stefund Diggs fits into that locker room, because 590 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: that locker rooms a lot of a lot of me guys, 591 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: and let's be honest, he's a me guy. It's a 592 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: he's a wide receiver. I mean that that happens. So oh, 593 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how he fits in. But I 594 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: think that's a talented team that could make a nice 595 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: little run over the next few years. So the Philadelphia Eagles, 596 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, I still don't buy 597 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is the long term answer here, and I 598 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: don't know if the Eagles do either. Yeah, I mean 599 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm on the fence with them, just because I think 600 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: they're a mishmash of They've got some young talent and 601 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 1: they I think the Eagles when they were playing at 602 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: that level with Wentz during their Super Bowl season, they 603 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: were awesome. I mean they were so good. Uh and 604 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: he was playing at such a high level. I just 605 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: wonder if the way he plays the game leads to 606 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: being at risk for more injuries because he has he 607 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: has an injury history now going back to college. Uh. 608 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 1: So I'm a little more on the fence with them, 609 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: But they are another team where I implicitly implicitly trust 610 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: the GM, I implicitly trust the coach. So I'm more 611 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: yea than a. But I I do worry about wins, 612 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: and I do worry a little bit about that defense, 613 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: which has kind of been piece to gather a year 614 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: after year with different kind of big name free agents 615 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: and and and now they added Darius Slay, another big 616 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: name there. But I'm not seeing the kind of the 617 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: program maybe defensively that that has has been there the 618 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: last couple of years. I do like their front office, 619 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: and I really like their coach. So I cannot understand 620 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: you might sway me on that one over to the 621 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: Y side because I wasn't nay. I just I went 622 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: as to stay on the field, and and I don't 623 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: know if he has the ability to do that or 624 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: not do that. And there's no Nick Foles in the wings. 625 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: There is Jalen Hurts thof. So the Dallas Cowboys yea 626 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: or nay. I mean, if we're talking like this season, 627 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm all about the Cowboys. I just I just don't 628 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: know a long term I think that's the that's the 629 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: that's the key of a dynasty, because I just think 630 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: they've got they got they gotta They're gonna have a 631 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: lot of money tied to a very few amount of people, 632 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: and I think that's the that can be a problem, 633 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: especially when it seems to be lopsided towards the offensive 634 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: side of the ball. So I I worry about their 635 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: long term future. I think that they're a super Bowl 636 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: contender this year, but I just can't put him in 637 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: the dynasty discussion, just because I feel like they might 638 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: have missed the window where Dak was cheap and now 639 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: they're going to be paying him a lot of money, 640 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: and that's where I worry about the dynasty. I would 641 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: say no. I think they are built to win now 642 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: and that is it, and then we'll cross the next bridge. 643 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: Jerry'll cross the next bridge when he gets to it. 644 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how long a run McCarthy can have. 645 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: We have no idea what's gonna happen with Dak Prescott 646 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: and Andy Dalton's in the wings there. I don't I 647 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: don't know. I just I would say no right now 648 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: when it comes to the Cowboys the Baltimore Ravens, and 649 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: I feel like it's gonna paint both of us to 650 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: say what we're about to say. Yeah, I mean I 651 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: think they've got I mean they're they're like what we 652 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: hope the Browns can be soon, and I think they've 653 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: already reached that point. Now their next hump is getting 654 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,719 Speaker 1: over the hump in the playoffs. I think they've got 655 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: the pieces in place. They clearly they got their quarterback 656 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. They're building something offensively. I think this 657 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: year is gonna be huge with how the league spends 658 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: an offseason making adjustments to what they did and trying 659 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: because they're gonna have to. The Ravens are gonna have 660 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: to continue to adapt and I think that's the key thing. 661 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: But they clearly what the Ravens have had for years, 662 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: and this is this predates Lamar is a culture on 663 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: defense where they can continuously bring in new people, let 664 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: the expensive guys go, and continue to be good. Even 665 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: when they're not like a top five defense, they're never 666 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: below like a top ten. And I think that's the 667 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: now that they've got the offense figured out, that that's 668 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: what makes them good long term. And it really goes 669 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: back to the defense just culturally being as good as 670 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: it's been for so long. Yeah, personnel they draft well, 671 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean Aussie is just an advisor now. But you 672 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: know they haven't missed a beat with the new gm 673 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: Harbaugh has his system running on all cylinders. I still 674 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: question what Lamar Jackson can do it. Lamar Jackson still 675 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: has to prove that he can win a playoff game, 676 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: but the rest of the team is built to win 677 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: and built to win a long term. The key thing 678 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: for the Ravens and they had such an amazing season 679 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: last year that they rarely had adversity in games and 680 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: the games where they trailed, they lost. And I think 681 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: that's that's the key thing. When they jumped on these 682 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: teams early, they're a team where they when they have 683 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: a lead year in trump. I think that's the way 684 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: they run their offense. But when the Browns were able 685 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: to put them into deficit, they didn't look like the 686 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: same team. When they were facing the Chiefs early in 687 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: the season, they didn't look as quite as efficient. And 688 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: then even in that Steelers game they had to slog 689 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: through it, and then obviously the playoff game they were behind, 690 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: and they just something about that offense doesn't operate the 691 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: way it's supposed to when they're trying to come come 692 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: from behind. And I think that's that's going to be 693 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: the key thing, because there's no way they have a 694 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: season like they have last year. That was the dreams easy, 695 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: it's all, it's all coming back from that. But I 696 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: think clearly, I think they're they're in okay hands. The 697 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners two teams left, and they're the 698 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: two teams that played in the Super Bowl. The forty. Yeah, 699 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: I like their prospects because I do think I think 700 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: Jimmy g took way too much heat last year. I 701 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 1: think he's better than what like people are talking about. 702 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: I just think he's like, I don't think he's the 703 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: thing holding them back. I just don't. I don't. And 704 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: I think that they've got and I think that they 705 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: succeeded last year with clear deficiencies on areas of the 706 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: team that they've tried to make better in this offseason. 707 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think they're they're they're in good hands there, 708 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: and I think they've set things up nicely and they 709 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: they they've you know, they've set up things nicely when 710 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: they've whipped on some big picks and they've still been 711 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: this good. I mean, you whiff on Solomon Thomas, you 712 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: wif on Reuben Foster. I mean those are big picks 713 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,280 Speaker 1: that have not panned out. I mean, Reuben Foster definitely 714 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: did not pan out. Salomon Thomas has just been okay, 715 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: But those were huge picks that did not pan out 716 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: for the forty Niners. And they're still in pretty good shape. 717 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: And when Kyle Shanahan, I think you're never out of 718 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: it if you're the forty Niners. Uh. And I think 719 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 1: we can both agree, yeah on this one. The Kansas 720 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: City Chiefs really could start something and they just keep 721 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: adding pieces and weapons and moving forward here. Yeah, that 722 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: that line about they returned twenty two starters from last year, 723 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: that's scary. Uh. And I think the key thing for 724 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: them is I think now over the next few years 725 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: they're going to have to invest heavily on their defensive 726 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: side of the ball because I think that Mahomes has 727 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 1: shown he can make it work with whoever's out there basically, 728 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: and I think that they can plug whoever running back 729 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: they can. Uh, they've got to They've got to pay 730 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: Kelsey and they've got you probably pay tyreek Kill. I 731 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: don't know. I think they've done that, but I think 732 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: those are the two guys you need on offense, fill 733 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: it in with a bunch of other guys, and then 734 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: invest on defense, because if you if you show up 735 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: that defense and make it even better than it's been, 736 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're they're gonna be tough as long 737 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 1: as my homes is playing with them. Yeah, that defense 738 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: got hot at just the right time last year. I 739 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: think it was week ten, week eleven they started to 740 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: turn it around. They've given up a lot in the 741 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: first ten weeks, but they turned things around. We're playing 742 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: their best football when it mattered, and we're able to 743 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: of course win the super Bowl. So that is yea 744 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: or ny in terms of dynasty's Uh, are you buying 745 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: or selling Big Ben? His haircut, his makeover and now 746 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: he's ready to go. I mean, I don't know. I think, 747 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: like clearly he is an upgrade over whatever the Steelers 748 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: used at quarterback last year. I mean, I mean that. 749 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: But I do think we never got a true glimpse 750 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: of the combination of Roethlisberger at this age in an 751 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: offense without Antonio Brown. I think that's the That to 752 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: me is something that is the unknown that the Steeler 753 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: have to grapple with going into this season because it 754 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: wasn't looking great before he got hurt, and how much 755 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: of that was due to the injury. How much of 756 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: that was the opponents? They got smoked by the Patriots 757 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: to start at the year last year and played the 758 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: Seahawks were also pretty good before he went out with 759 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: the injury. That's the one unknown that I don't know 760 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 1: if it gets talked about enough with the Steelers, because 761 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: they've Antonio Brown was a heck of a security blanket 762 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: for that offense. He opened up everything for everyone. And 763 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: I think that I I want to see that offense 764 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: now with what is probably gonna be running back by 765 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: committee and a bunch of young receivers, and I just, um, 766 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: I will that that is the biggest test for Roethlisberger 767 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: coming back on top of the injury. So a lot 768 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: of a lot of variables in the air air there 769 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: with the Steelers, Yeah, I think a lot of questions 770 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: on the offensive line, losing a couple of tight ends. Um, 771 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: you drafted a running back out of Maryland in the 772 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: fourth round, a kid that uh, I think shows a 773 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: little bit of promise but is connor able to stay healthy. 774 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: Who knows what's gonna happen with him? The way they've 775 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: floated up and running backs tells me it's running back 776 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: by committee. I mean they've got Connor Samuel's and then 777 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: Benny Snell and and this new guy from from Maryland. 778 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean that that's a lot of investment at the position. Yeah, 779 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: that's a lot. And I'm not sure, you know, you 780 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: probably need maybe another wide receiver too as well, or 781 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: another weapon for Ben to throw the football too. But 782 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with that. I hope everybody has 783 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: a fantastic Memorial Day weekend, or as good a weekend 784 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: as you can have in this environment and in this climate. 785 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: We are going to be off on Tuesday. We will 786 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: be back with you next Thursday, and then we'll get 787 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: back into the two to a day or two a week, 788 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: I should say, from the best podcast available. You can 789 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: log onto Cleveland Browns dot com or wherever you get 790 00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: your podcasts, like and subscribe today to the best podcast available. 791 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: You can also check us out on our YouTube page 792 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,439 Speaker 1: YouTube dot com Slash Browns, GRIBs. I hope you enjoy 793 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: a few well deserved days off and uh we will 794 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: see you back here next week, my friends. Sounds good, 795 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: looking forward, good, all right. 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