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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we keep

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Speaker 1: checking Instagram captions and comments for the latest gymnastics shade.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, lots of Olympic news, a cute little

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Speaker 1: friendship blossoming before our eyes, and will be joined by

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Speaker 1: Around the Horn producer Josh Bard and Ultra Marathon or

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Speaker 1: Klain Conahan to talk three x three basketball, WNBA, drama

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Speaker 1: and main character energy. It's all coming up right after

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Speaker 1: this big show today. But first, here's what you need

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Speaker 1: to know today. Canada Soccer all right, in what's becoming

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Speaker 1: a daily segment, We've got a drone gate update, and

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Speaker 1: stick with us, folks, because this is kind of a

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Speaker 1: rollercoaster of a ride. On Wednesday, Canada Soccer attempted to

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Speaker 1: appeal the six point deduction imposed by FIFA for drone spying,

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Speaker 1: but the Court of Arbitration for Sport dismissed the case.

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Speaker 1: The most interesting news to come out of the ongoing

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Speaker 1: saga was an email from now suspended Canada head coach

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Speaker 1: Bev Priestman published by FIFA. Here's an excerpt from what

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Speaker 1: FIFA released.

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Speaker 2: Quote.

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Speaker 1: It's something the analyst has always done and I know

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Speaker 1: there is a whole operation on the men's side with

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Speaker 1: regards to it. We had Redacted in with us recently

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Speaker 1: and he was outstanding in this area, Priestman wrote, continuing quote.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday in a meeting, when discussing, I asked Redacted to

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Speaker 1: propose an alternative solution as for scouting, it can be

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Speaker 1: a difference between winning and losing, and all top ten

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Speaker 1: teams do it. Yike's not a good look. So Canada

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Speaker 1: lost its appeal, but they won the war.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: The Canadians defeated Columbia one nil to finish their group undefeated,

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Speaker 1: so despite the six point deduction, they're going to advance

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Speaker 1: to the quarterfinal round, where they'll face Germany. Also in soccer,

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Speaker 1: the US confirmed its spot at the top of Group

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Speaker 1: B with a two to one win over Australia on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Trinity Rodman and Corbyn Albert recorded goals. Also, here's a

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Speaker 1: cool stat the US scored nine goals in group play,

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Speaker 1: the program's most ever in the Olympic Tournament in group play.

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Speaker 1: Love that after they entered the tournament worry about their

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Speaker 1: ability to finish. Next up for the US, they'll play

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Speaker 1: Japan in the quarterfinal round on Saturday, and if they

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Speaker 1: win that and Canada wins their quarterfinal, get ready for

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Speaker 1: some drones above your practice, America, because we'll be set

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Speaker 1: for a cross border semi final. Yep, that's right, America

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Speaker 1: Versus America's heat more soccer. Brazilian soccer legend Marta might

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Speaker 1: see her international career end on a sour note. In

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Speaker 1: Brazil's Group C game against Spain on Wednesday, the sixth

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Speaker 1: time Olympian was shown a straight red card during the

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Speaker 1: sixth minute of first half stoppage time after her boot

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Speaker 1: was a for sure deserved red card, but it's still

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Speaker 1: not how any of us wanted to see Marta in

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Speaker 1: green and yellow go out. Brazil went on to lose

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Speaker 1: the game to nothing, but it's not over yet. Brazil

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Speaker 1: will advance to the quarterfinals with one of the lucky

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Speaker 1: Marta will not be allowed to compete in that game.

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Speaker 1: Brazil needs to make it to the semifinals in order

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Speaker 1: the Olympics send off that.

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Speaker 2: We all know she deserves.

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Speaker 1: In the pool, Katie Ladeci won gold in the fifteen

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Speaker 1: hundred meter, and on the one hand, of course she did.

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Speaker 1: Girl has a loss of fifteen hundred meter race in

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Speaker 1: the greatness of Katie Ladecci. With the gold her twelfth

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Speaker 1: career medal, she tied Jenny Thompson, Dara Torres, and Natalie

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Speaker 1: Coglin for the most ever by an American female swimmer,

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Speaker 1: and she still got the eight hundred meter to compete

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Speaker 1: in Paris. Some cool rugby news so following the US

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Speaker 1: team's incredible bronze medal went on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: And if you haven't, I'm begging you please go watch

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Speaker 2: the highlight.

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Speaker 1: USA rugby received an unprecedented donation from Michelle Kang. Michelle

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Speaker 1: Kang is the business mogul who owns the NWSL's Washington Spirit,

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Speaker 1: France's Olympic Leone Feminine, and the London City Lioness's women's

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Speaker 1: soccer clubs. She's already a huge investor in women's soccer,

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Speaker 1: but now she's donating four million dollars to US rugby

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Speaker 1: to help the squad prepare for the twenty twenty eight

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Olympics. She said she's getting them ready to

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Speaker 1: grab the gold in La Side note, you guys know

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Speaker 1: that this show is obsessed with breakout rugby star Alon

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Speaker 1: omar Well. Her sister Olivia Maar aka at Livy mar

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Speaker 1: girl responsible for the term girl dinner.

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Speaker 2: No shit, for real, I am obsessed with this family.

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Speaker 1: There is a third sister too, So we just we

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Speaker 1: need a show, Bravo. Let's hear it, let's see it,

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Speaker 1: let's do it. Come on, we need it to canoe slalom.

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Speaker 1: That's right, canoe slalom. Because if you listen to our

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Speaker 1: episode with AJ McCord, you already know who Avi Libfarth

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Speaker 1: is and you were excited to watch her. And aren't

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Speaker 1: you glad you did? Because on Wednesday, Lebfarth won bronze

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Speaker 1: in canoe slalom. She actually almost didn't even make the final.

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Speaker 1: She was the last athlete to squeak in from qualifications,

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Speaker 1: but it didn't matter. With the result of the bronze medal,

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Speaker 2: Gymnastics.

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Speaker 1: The gymnastics individual all around final is today at twelve

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Speaker 1: fifteen pm Eastern. Simone Biles and Sunny Lee both will

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Speaker 1: be competing for the US, marking the first time in

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Speaker 1: Olympic history that two previous all around champions will go

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Speaker 1: head to head for gold. We cannot wait, but as

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Speaker 1: psyched as we are for that, we are pretty bummed

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Speaker 1: that we're not gonna be able to watch Jordan Childs

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Speaker 1: compete too. She finished fourth in qualifying out of all

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Speaker 1: due to gymnastics two per country rule. To soccer outside

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Speaker 1: of the Olympics, this is the best news. It's been

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Speaker 1: more than two years since US soccer star and Angel

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Speaker 1: City forward Kristin Press has played a professional match, but

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Speaker 1: she's back.

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Speaker 2: Baby. Press is a two time World Cup champion.

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Speaker 1: She tore her ACL in June twenty twenty two, and

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Speaker 1: it has been a very long recovery process, including four

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Speaker 1: different ACL surgeries. She's been super open about the heartbreak

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Speaker 1: and so we're so excited to see her back. She's

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Speaker 1: expected to compete in Angel City's Mxfeminial Summer Cup against

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Speaker 1: the San Diego Wave at ten pm Eastern tonight.

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Speaker 2: Also breaking news, y'all.

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Speaker 1: According to high class sporting outlets like Eonline and Today

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Speaker 1: dot Com, Kristen is dating fellow soccer player Tobin Heath.

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Speaker 1: In fact, they quote unquote revealed that they've been dating

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Speaker 1: for eight years.

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Speaker 3: Huh.

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Speaker 2: I just can't believe Eonline out scooped all.

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Speaker 1: Of us sport journals on the story. I am, of

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Speaker 1: course kidding.

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Speaker 2: Quote.

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Speaker 1: Our people always knew what was going on with us,

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Speaker 1: said Kristin to Peacock's Watch with Alex Cooper.

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Speaker 2: We sure did.

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Speaker 1: Kristin one of our favorite power couples for many years running.

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Speaker 2: You can watch and listen to their recap show.

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Speaker 1: Where they're keeping you up to date with all the

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Speaker 1: Olympic soccer news and everything else.

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Speaker 2: It's a really smart and wonderful show, so check it.

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Speaker 1: Out and congrats to the happy couple still acting like

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Speaker 1: By the way, quick rant on the competitions taking place

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Speaker 1: in the River Send, which have been a fecal point, sorry,

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Speaker 1: by saying I was rooting for you, Paris. We were all.

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Speaker 2: Rooting for you.

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Speaker 1: should have found a new plan, because here's what happened instead.

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Speaker 1: The men triathletes had their Olympic preparations disrupted after their

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Speaker 1: They've spent their whole lives preparing for this one moment,

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Speaker 1: and your reclamation of the sund bullshit was prioritized over

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Speaker 1: timing for sleep or vitamins or car bloating. I'm happy

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Speaker 1: for all the medalists, and I really hope everyone else

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Speaker 2: But this was a real marred way to do things France.

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Speaker 2: That means shit. All right, folks, we have to take

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Speaker 1: When we come back, a man has entered the chat.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's time for another group chat where we

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Speaker 2: And bring it on to the airwaves. Joining us now.

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Speaker 1: He's a producer for ESPNS Around the Horn and the

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Speaker 1: show's Syrao de Bergerac in the wings, feeding your favorite

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Speaker 2: Never me though, those were all mine.

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Speaker 1: The rare millennial who's stayed in the same job since

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Speaker 1: She's a VP of global sales and a creative mastermind

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Speaker 1: for Legends by day and an ultra marathon or by

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Speaker 2: Those races take like thirty five hours.

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Speaker 1: She's fought a hooboob Google It once got hit by

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Speaker 2: What's up, Colaine?

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Speaker 3: What's up? Everybody? Good to be here?

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Speaker 1: Fun fact they used to be married and now they

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Speaker 1: aren't welcome to group chat friends. Colain, I gotta start

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Speaker 1: with you because I need to do a wellness check.

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Speaker 1: So just a few days ago, you completed your second

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Speaker 1: bad Water one thirty five. That is a one hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty five mile foot race. It starts at Badwater Basin,

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Speaker 1: the lowest point in North America, and ends at the

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Speaker 1: portal of Mount Whitney, the tall mountain in the lower

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Speaker 1: forty eight. The race has three sections of mountain climbs,

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Speaker 1: takes place at one hundred and ten plus degrees in

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Speaker 1: Death Valley, California, and is strictly for absolute sickos. Tell

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Speaker 1: mysteriousaboobs or other natural disasters that you encountered.

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Speaker 1: That's a really good answer. And you're making me regret

437
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Speaker 1: not asking her, Colayne, what do you think.

438
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Speaker 4: I mean, Frank, I'm I'm over it, right Like, I'm

439
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Speaker 4: not saying that people don't need to be held accountable

440
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Speaker 4: for their comments.

441
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Speaker 3: But this is literally months ago.

442
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Speaker 4: If you haven't moved on my opinion, that's on you, right,

443
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Speaker 4: Like she did answer for it, either accept her apology

444
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Speaker 4: or you don't. In my opinion, Cheryl Swoops is a

445
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Speaker 4: legend who has done more for the game of women's

446
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Speaker 4: basketball and for women's sports then I'm going to take

447
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Speaker 4: away from her from one interview, right, Like I'm over it.

448
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 4: People make mistakes if they own up to them and pay.

449
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Speaker 4: You know, I was about to say pay the reaper.

450
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Speaker 4: That feels very very like aggressive, you know, like like

451
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Speaker 4: if you pay your dues, then then I'm happy to

452
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Speaker 4: move on, right, I think again, like, I'm sure I'm

453
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Speaker 4: gonna make mistakes. I'm gonna say dumb shit during this interview, uh,

454
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Speaker 4: you know. And and if I'm not able to apologize

455
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Speaker 4: and move on, then like what's the point of civil discourse?

456
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Speaker 5: Right?

457
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Speaker 3: And and again like to me, it's Cheryl swoops, right,

458
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Speaker 3: like she knows more.

459
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Speaker 4: About the game. Yeah, she made some misguided judgments. If

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Speaker 4: you are a Kitlyn Clark fan, which I'm presuming that

461
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Speaker 4: that that person, yeah, person is man Like I can't

462
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Speaker 4: wait to see how Caitlyn uses that. She's used every

463
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Speaker 4: slight and every every set back as a launch pad

464
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Speaker 4: and I would just let her eat that and then

465
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Speaker 4: see what it becomes. Like That's that to me is

466
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Speaker 4: it's nightmare fuel for the rest of the w NBA.

467
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Speaker 4: And you know, someday Cheryl Swoops and Kaitlyn Clark will

468
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Speaker 4: shake hands and Kaitlyn may have the last laugh.

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Speaker 3: Who's to say? And I think that's that.

470
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Speaker 4: To me is sports right, Like, but I'm I'm over it.

471
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Speaker 4: I don't I don't need to go back to you know,

472
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Speaker 4: March April. It's July. We're moving on to August. Here,

473
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Speaker 4: it's the Olympics, Like, let's have some fun and get

474
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Speaker 4: past some of this dumb stuff that just feels like.

475
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Speaker 2: Yeah, old, I agree with both of you.

476
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Speaker 1: To be honest, it's like I would have wanted to

477
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Speaker 1: hear what Cheryl had to say directly, but also like

478
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Speaker 1: part of the reason I wanted to move forward is

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Speaker 1: I do feel like, no matter what she said, the

480
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Speaker 1: people who have already made up their mind about her

481
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Speaker 1: are going to spin it. And so the way that

482
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Speaker 1: they've made these players' stand ins for racist or political

483
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Speaker 1: bullshit instead of taking commentary at face value, has made

484
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Speaker 1: it really difficult to have realistic and logical conversations around

485
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Speaker 1: this stuff, specifically Caitlin and Angel. And I'm not going

486
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Speaker 1: to argue that even sometimes the players aren't at fault

487
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Speaker 1: for buying into how they've become made avatars of larger

488
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Speaker 1: cultural wars and have leaned into certain things that make

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Speaker 1: it harder to argue that they aren't aware of what's

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Speaker 1: going on. But again to Josh's point, if we every

491
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Speaker 1: time assume intent and also don't consider everything that they're

492
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Speaker 1: getting that we might not be aware of, whether that's tweets,

493
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Speaker 1: text messages, et cetera, that might inform their opinions. You know,

494
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Speaker 1: it gets a little dicey, which is why I think

495
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Speaker 1: I wanted to try to get back to basketball and

496
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Speaker 1: get a little more level headed in our coverage that

497
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Speaker 1: when we did have those conversations there could be a

498
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Speaker 1: fresher palette in advance of them.

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Speaker 2: Josh, do you have some an.

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Speaker 5: Ad No, I was gonna say. I you said you

501
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Speaker 5: agree with both of us. I think I agree with

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Speaker 5: both of us too. I don't you know, like we're

503
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Speaker 5: not coming at it. I think from at least not

504
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Speaker 5: opposing vantage points, just two different vantage points at a

505
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Speaker 5: place where there's many and unfortunately, you know, like a

506
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Speaker 5: lot of people don't see that you can see things

507
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Speaker 5: from different ways.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I did, you can let Angel.

509
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Klaine disagrees that you're agreeing everyone's wrong.

510
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Speaker 2: Sticking with basketball. You both have had.

511
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Speaker 1: Strong feelings in the group chat about the women's three

512
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Speaker 1: x three team at the Olympics. I got a flurry

513
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Speaker 1: of texts from you in our group chat after their

514
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Speaker 1: opening loss to Germany and meish. As we're recording this,

515
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Speaker 1: they are battling way too tip for tap with Azerbaijan.

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Speaker 2: What happened? They lost? They lost?

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Speaker 6: You know, and you know what and you know what

518
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Speaker 6: makes it worse or better depending on how you look

519
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Speaker 6: at it. I think it's spicy Tip Hays game winner,

520
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Speaker 6: Tip Hays, Tiffany Hayes Las Vegas aces star playing for

521
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Speaker 6: Azerbaijan gets a leap that ends up being the difference.

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Speaker 6: So they got I think Spain in Australia on uh

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Speaker 6: oh no on today, technically on Thursday and oh gosh, yeah, So.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's a right, So let's just let's just start

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Speaker 1: with this. For those who don't know technically, I'm calling

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Speaker 1: it this because that's what they call it. Their three

527
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Speaker 1: x three is what they call it in the world.

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Speaker 1: It's a four player roster. Two players have to be

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Speaker 1: ranked within the top ten of their country to qualify,

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Speaker 1: and two players have to be ranked within the top

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Speaker 1: fifty of their country or have the minimum number of

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Speaker 1: ranking points. So this is like Feeble World Cup and

533
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Speaker 1: different competitions. So this was sort of the goal with

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Speaker 1: three x three TMUSA women's basketball in particular, so far

535
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Speaker 1: ahead of the world due to a million things, title nine, resources, investment,

536
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Speaker 1: et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't feel like they're gonna be caught for a while.

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Speaker 1: Three x three allows for other countries to put forward

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Speaker 1: some teams that are more competitive. And also in the US,

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Speaker 1: we haven't invested enough in three x three to be

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Speaker 1: as skilled, even if we have the players that could

542
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Speaker 1: be great at it, Clay, what would you like to

543
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Speaker 1: change looking at this roster or just in general.

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Speaker 3: Our approach, Mama Mia. Well, first off, one of the

545
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Speaker 3: people who was part of the pool was Alisha.

546
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Speaker 4: Gray, who just won everything to win in the WNBA

547
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Speaker 4: All Star Weekend.

548
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Speaker 3: What are we.

549
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Speaker 4: Doing with her at home while these players are fighting

550
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Speaker 4: and battling.

551
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Speaker 5: Like she won a gold medal. She won a gold

552
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Speaker 5: medal with this three on three T three by three

553
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Speaker 5: team last year too, So why are we why.

554
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Speaker 2: Not carrying on that experience? Yeah?

555
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Speaker 3: Bring her to Paris? What are we doing?

556
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Speaker 4: And I mean I took a look at the pool

557
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Speaker 4: of options, of which you know my opinion, Alicia Gray

558
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Speaker 4: and Kelsey Mitchell are the two best ones that are

559
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Speaker 4: not included who are on on the option, But I

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Speaker 4: legitimately can think of like two to three players across

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Speaker 4: the w NBA who I believe should have been part

562
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Speaker 4: of that pool. Like my my number one pick, I

563
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Speaker 4: think is Dowanna Bonner, whose fiance is already in Paris.

564
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Speaker 4: You're telling me you don't want those limbs, you don't

565
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Speaker 4: want that stretch, you don't want that woman.

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Speaker 3: With that attitude. Bring Dewana Bonner. What are we doing?

567
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Speaker 3: She's a nightmare? Like how do you guard her? So anyway,

568
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Speaker 3: if we.

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Speaker 4: Like we want to invest in somebody, who can I

570
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 4: just feel like there's so many better options for a

571
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Speaker 4: roster and if the goal you know, I think there

572
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 4: were some conversations around who's available for Team USA and

573
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Speaker 4: who's not, But like, where's a Rique on this pool?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: I know she backed away from the opportunit unity before

576
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Speaker 4: not being selected for five on five, But I just

577
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Speaker 4: feel like, for most I don't know what we're I

578
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 4: don't know what team USA is looking for in building

579
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Speaker 4: out this three x three roster. Are we actually investing

580
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Speaker 4: in the future of USA basketball? In which case, you know,

581
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 4: like we've got to be making better decisions Josh, you

582
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Speaker 4: want to.

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Speaker 1: See a different lineup or do you think it's tough

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Speaker 1: for players to like prioritize three x three if they're

585
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Speaker 1: trying to either make the five on five team or

586
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Speaker 1: prep for other leagues.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I want to put the qualifications of having

588
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Speaker 5: to have played a certain number of games off to

589
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Speaker 5: the side right now, because A I didn't do the research.

590
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Speaker 5: I am the man on the woman's podcast, so I

591
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Speaker 5: want to do less work than all of you guys

592
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Speaker 5: for the same amount of time. And also it's dumb.

593
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Speaker 5: It's dumb, and like this roster is straight up not good.

594
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Speaker 5: Like you've scored thirty points in two games so far,

595
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Speaker 5: and I get it, Kelsey plumb, Jackie Young graduated. I

596
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Speaker 5: guess we'll call it to the five on five team.

597
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Speaker 5: But like Clainne said, Alisha Gray was here, I don't

598
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Speaker 5: know where she could possibly be unless she chose not

599
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 5: to do this, which, you know, whatever this team is,

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Speaker 5: Like Haley van Lyft, I mean, where where do we

601
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Speaker 5: even begin? Like I thought she was an awesome player

602
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 5: who had cool attitude on Louisville, and I thought she

603
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Speaker 5: was a player who couldn't even stay on the floor

604
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Speaker 5: in the tournament for LSU. She was. I mean, I

605
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 5: don't want to be too mean, but I thought that

606
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Speaker 5: was sort of an embarrassing performance. The announcers were calling

607
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Speaker 5: it out. The team didn't seem to really have a

608
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Speaker 5: spot for her play want to play with her. She

609
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 5: was getting cooked every game down the stretch. Anyways, I

610
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Speaker 5: can't imagine a world where she could be our best

611
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Speaker 5: possible option. I don't want to be just like a

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Speaker 5: headline grabber. I think this team is absolutely a team

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Speaker 5: that should be playing for gold and not just for ratings.

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Speaker 5: But Caitlin Clark couldn't make this team. Like, it's fine,

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Speaker 5: I don't need her on the five on five team

616
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Speaker 5: if she's not one of the best players, But like,

617
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Speaker 5: I would treat this three by three team as almost

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Speaker 5: like the second level of the five on five. And

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Speaker 5: I know it's a different sport. I mean, I played basketball,

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Speaker 5: claim I actually play on the same team, and we've

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Speaker 5: been playing a little bit of this sort of Olympic

622
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Speaker 5: style when we've been playing h intro team scrimmage stuff.

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Speaker 5: I get how it can be different. I totally do,

624
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Speaker 5: but can't tell me Caitlyn Clark wouldn't beatful, can't tell

625
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Speaker 5: me Angel, Recee wouldn't be useful. Can't tell me, uh, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, can't tell you nothing.

627
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 5: Can't tell me nothing, Angel.

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Speaker 2: Because shooting is going to be just as important.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Fine, I think the flexibility of being able to shoot

631
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Speaker 1: from outside and inside, have size, be able to defend.

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Speaker 1: That's the only issue with Caitlyn too defensively. I'm not

633
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Speaker 1: sure if she's the best true to both ways, but

634
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Speaker 1: me sure you got so.

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Speaker 2: You both bring up extremely interesting points.

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Speaker 6: And before I get to my person, Josh, I want

637
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Speaker 6: to touch on something real quick that you just said

638
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Speaker 6: that I think is very a smart strategy for Team USA.

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Speaker 6: I feel like if if you use the three x

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Speaker 6: three team like you said, as that step that next

641
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Speaker 6: you know level, right before you get to five on five,

642
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 6: it is a different game. But the game of basketball

643
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 6: at the Olympic level is more so about reads than

644
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Speaker 6: you know what I mean, anything else. And in three

645
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 6: on three all you're doing for ten straight minutes. Yeah, okay,

646
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Speaker 6: you might have a set you run here or there,

647
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 6: meaning like a play that you designed beforehand, but for

648
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 6: the most most part, you got like twelve seconds to

649
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Speaker 6: score the basketball. You don't have time to do all

650
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 6: this stuff in the world, so you have to make

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Speaker 6: the best read. Three on three helps you do that

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Speaker 6: five on five. It's just you know, like a lot

653
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Speaker 6: of people who grew up playing basketball, you do the

654
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 6: three man weave and then you do the five person

655
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 6: like it's the same thing. Just add two more people

656
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Speaker 6: in the mix and figure it out. So I feel

657
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 6: like one can definitely help you do the other. I

658
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 6: wouldn't go from five on five to three on three.

659
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Speaker 6: I would definitely, you know, I like that.

660
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Speaker 1: Part of the issue here is, of course, that these

661
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Speaker 1: players have to take away time from other things, Like

662
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Speaker 1: Caitlyn wouldn't have had time to qualify. Other players might

663
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Speaker 1: not have time to qualify. But I do agree that

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Speaker 1: it feels like maybe america exceptionalism and ego caused us

665
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: to believe, yeah, we'll just throw some people out there.

666
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: One's a college player, one's a former WNBA player, but

667
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: not anymore to others are like, you know, we're just

668
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: kind of throwing people out thinking we have the dominance

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Speaker 1: because we're dominant at the five on five, and that

670
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: is very.

671
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: Clearly being shown not to be true here. Do y'all

672
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: think that with Unrivaled.

673
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Speaker 1: I know that they're calling it three by three to

674
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: it's different and they are having different rules than the

675
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: three x three in the Olympics, But the general vibe.

676
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: Do you think that new Unrivaled dig from the FISA

677
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: Collier and Brianna Stewart is going to help the US

678
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: prep some candidates for this hope?

679
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: So I do.

680
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Speaker 4: And that's actually one of the things I was gonna

681
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 4: say is that, like, you know, don't I don't want

682
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 4: to disrespect these players. I they're way better than I am.

683
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 4: And like Cameron Brink getting injured and being replaced with

684
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: Dereka Hanby, like that's legit. They haven't had the opportunity

685
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 4: to play this format, and I think that playing it

686
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 4: with Unrivaled will really help. Not only will it help

687
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: those players play this format and probably increase the speed

688
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 4: of play in the w NBA. Right, Like having played

689
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 4: three x three a few times and like it's it

690
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 4: is fun, it is super entertaining, it is a great watch,

691
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 4: and I want us to be I want us to

692
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 4: wipe the floor with the rest of the world like

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Speaker 4: we do in every basketball competition.

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Speaker 3: That's what that's like. Uh, that's what I want as

695
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: an annoyingly uh you know, nationalist.

696
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Speaker 2: Patriotic.

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Speaker 4: Exactly right, very problematic out here. But I think that

698
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 4: like getting more reps will really help and it will

699
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 4: also help Team U. I say, identify for sure who

700
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 4: can play this format and like who are the best

701
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 4: people to compete because going back to the Olympic gold

702
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 4: medal team from Tokyo, like, I feel like that squad

703
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 4: was incredible. Like I would never in a million years

704
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 4: have been like, yep, Steph Dolson, that's the one, but

705
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 4: she was perfect.

706
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: She is such a.

707
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 4: Versatile big yeah, who's like super smart, makes the right decisions.

708
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: And another person I had on my list going back

709
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: to like, yeah, exactly, another person I had on my

710
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 4: list was Djena Carrington and Benijela Laney. Like I think

711
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 4: the two of them would be amazing because they're super athletic.

712
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 4: Benija is so strong and I think she's one of

713
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 4: the smartest players. Yeah, I think she's one of the

714
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Speaker 4: smartest players in the W And I just think that

715
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 4: given the quick decision making that you have to make

716
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 4: during three x three, that's what I want. And I

717
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 4: think that's like Kelsey Plum and Jackie Young, that's what

718
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 4: they bring to the table. They're most like, really versatile

719
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 4: guards who can play on both sides, are very athletic

720
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 4: and can finish like that's what that's kind of what

721
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 4: we're missing here. I think Ryan Howard feels to me

722
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 4: like a good pick for the existing team. I like

723
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 4: her on there, but you know, otherwise it's players that

724
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 4: maybe aren't clicking. And yeah, I think Unrivaled will be

725
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 4: a really interesting proving ground for you know, the future

726
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 4: of this particular event.

727
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 5: There's a player, a thirty four year old from Polk County, Florida,

728
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 5: who we could have had, who would have qualified because

729
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 5: she qualified for Azerbaij. We could have just had Tiffany Hayes.

730
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Speaker 5: That's one I also on my list I had and

731
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 5: I again I'm putting qualifications aside. Why couldn't And I

732
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 5: know that the Mystics are having, you know, a lesser

733
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 5: than season with a lot of injuries, but like you

734
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 5: roll out there, Ariel Atkins, my Aisha Heinz, Allen, Tory Walker,

735
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 5: kimbro who've been playing together for years, who can stretch,

736
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 5: who can play bigger and smaller? What I mean, what

737
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 5: are we doing? Why Why are we playing college players

738
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 5: over gosh.

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00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: This three x three has turned us into Taylor twelve man,

740
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: what are we doing out here?

741
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 6: We're missing Kennedy Carter too. That's my last one. I'm

742
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 6: gonna just throw that one in the mix, because what

743
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 6: are you kidding?

744
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: Are you kidding?

745
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: Also good one, just bringing some dogs out there to

746
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: scare the other countries is And like you guys have

747
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: named a few, we are going to need to take

748
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Speaker 1: this part of the chat back to the text because

749
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: we're running out of time and we have to close

750
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Speaker 1: with the latest edition of Fight Me Now. Colaan, I

751
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: know you're into Kim Yedgi because you sent her our

752
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: way and now we're completely enamored with her as well,

753
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: and so is the rest of the world. A few

754
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: comments from social about Kim Yeedgie is this the hottest

755
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: and coolest.

756
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: Anyone has ever looked in history?

757
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: Possibly this girl is a movie character, like how is

758
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: she real? GQ Magazine's Eileen Carter wrote, Kim looked straight

759
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: out of a cyberpunk fanfit. And what's more, her Olympic

760
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: ensemble featured enough personable details like the elephant plushy charm

761
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: that could even warrant her theoretical character's own built out backstory.

762
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: And that's literally what I texted you to. When I

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00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: first saw I was like, we need a movie starring her,

764
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: not a doc a feature film.

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Speaker 2: Which brings us to the latest edition of Fight Me.

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00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: I need the five Olympic athletes you'd most like to

767
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: see star in a feature film.

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00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: It could be about their life, or it could have

769
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: nothing at all to do with them. You just like

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00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: their vibes. Colaine, you go first.

771
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm taking Kim Yejie off the top, because

772
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 4: here's the deal. If you want a feature film, you

773
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 4: need a flawed protagonist. You need somebody like a little mysterious,

774
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 4: a little bit messy, like we don't know really what's up,

775
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: Like like what is she into, what does she hate?

776
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 3: What makes her? What makes her tick?

777
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 4: And I just feel like she is the pinnacle of

778
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 4: mystery there. This can't be like just say, none of

779
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 4: my characters are just like a run of the mill.

780
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 4: This is your triumphant hero. Like, I don't want to

781
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 4: watch that movie. I'm not interested. I want a little

782
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 4: bit of mess. So that brings me to number two,

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00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 4: which is Lolo Jones. So like I am a bage

784
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: Lolo lover going back to like we're going back to Beijing,

785
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 4: Lolo Jones like all the promise in the world, and

786
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: then just you know, watching her fall over hurdles was

787
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 4: like personally devastating to me. Ran the hurdles in high

788
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 4: school with my very short legs. I've had to four step.

789
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 4: I am nowhere near Olympic caliber. Seeing how her career

790
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 4: has changed and how she's pivoted not only to being

791
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 4: a summer Olympic athlete but also to a Bob's letter,

792
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 4: maybe she can't let go. She's been on MTV's The Challenge.

793
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 4: She's still very publicly a virgin, but like, this is

794
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 4: a flawed protagonist.

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00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: So I think Lolo is my number two, and I

796
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: know there are more important things than sex, but I

797
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: really want her to get laid in the movie.

798
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: Can we do that?

799
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 6: Yes?

800
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: Good point, hot body is all I'm saying, truly, all right.

801
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 4: Number three is maybe cheating, But I'm going with somebody

802
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 4: who already has a feature film, Tanya Harding.

803
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: I Comma Tanya.

804
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 4: So I think that Tanya Harding is this exact flawed protagonist.

805
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 4: Like what a phenomenal movie that was. And again, maybe

806
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 4: I'm cheating. But maybe I just want the sequel.

807
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 3: Where is she now? What's going on?

808
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 4: I would like I would like to extend the story.

809
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 4: Number four is Babe Didrickson Zaharius. I just like she

810
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 4: maybe is more the pure hero, but I haven't done enough. Again,

811
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 4: the narrative, the media storytelling around women's sports when Babe

812
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 4: was coming up was very limited, so like, who knows,

813
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 4: maybe she's an asshole, Like we don't know, we don't

814
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 4: actually know. We just see her and I hold her

815
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 4: up as this like incredible, dynamic multi sport athlete who

816
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 4: succeeded when women were really discouraged from doing anything athletic.

817
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 3: Whatsoever? I want more?

818
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 4: And then the last one. I mean, if this doesn't happen,

819
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 4: we're missing it should carry richardson, Like.

820
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 3: What are we doing this?

821
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 4: Give this woman a film right now, like I need

822
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 4: her to star in it probably, but her personality, her story,

823
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 4: so eager for the redemption story. I love her personality.

824
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 4: I love her relationship with her grandmother, and I just

825
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 4: think she's she's like the pinnacle of like of talking

826
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 4: shit and backing it up.

827
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, the main character energy for sure from huge Cherry

828
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Speaker 1: Huge Huge.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty good list that is a diverse, pretty

830
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 2: good list. Josh, what you got all right?

831
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Speaker 5: I took it a different way. I'm more recentcy biased

832
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 5: from me. I have five from this some Olympics, and

833
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 5: I'm gonna start with sunny CHOI, the US breakdancing breaking star.

834
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 5: She quit her six figure job. I feel like this

835
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 5: is the only thing we know about her. Everyone knows

836
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,479
Speaker 5: about her. She quit a six year job. She's thirty four,

837
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 5: and she's a breakdancer. But I'll tell you this, we

838
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 5: haven't had a step up movie in the franchise since

839
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 5: twenty fourteen, and I want her as my I want

840
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 5: her to take the franchise over and just go with it.

841
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 5: So I have sunny CHOI starring in my break dancing movie.

842
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 5: Number two. I want to star Coco Yoshizawa, the fourteen

843
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 5: year old gold medal winning Japanese skateboarder. Just the coolest

844
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 5: looking kid in the history of the world. Probably, I

845
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 5: don't know if you saw her. She's just like swagged

846
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 5: out and I would like to be her when I

847
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 5: grow down.

848
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Speaker 1: No question, every one of those break breakers, skateboarders and

849
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: every X Game kid is cooler than I'll ever be

850
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: or have ever been, and I'm deeply bothered by that. Like,

851
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,479
Speaker 1: I don't know how they got to be so cool,

852
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: but it makes me feel bad about myself when I

853
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: watch them do anything.

854
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I'm so angry at them. I've gone all

855
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 5: the way back around the world to the other side

856
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 5: and I'm not angry at them again. That's how unfair

857
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 5: it all is. But like she reminds me of the

858
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 5: kind of movie star. I mean, the Kevin McAllister is

859
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 5: sort of like the easy comp where she could like

860
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 5: defend a house against bad people. But there's this movie,

861
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 5: do you guys know, the movie Masterminds. It's from like

862
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 5: the nineties with Patrick Stewart. It takes over a boarding

863
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 5: school and is going to hold these rich kids hostage.

864
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: I've seen, yeah, I've seen the problem.

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00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, Pete Campbell from mad Men as a kid in

866
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 5: this movie, which is kind of fun. But anyway, they're

867
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 5: all like skateboarding and they're like stopping the bad guys

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Speaker 5: in this boarding school. And I just think that's like

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Speaker 5: that's her. Number three. Trinity Rodman also cool as hell,

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Speaker 5: could be a good guy, could be a bad guy.

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Speaker 5: Any role I would write a role for her. And

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Speaker 5: then number four Shelley and Fraser Price. I'm gonna something

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Speaker 5: that's gonna make us all very angry. She's thirty seven

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Speaker 5: years old. This is her fifth Olympics. I believe she's

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Speaker 5: still planning on running the one, the two, and the

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00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 5: four by one for Jamaica. And to me, she fits

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Speaker 5: into the perfect trope of the one last job. This

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00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 5: is her last Olympics. She's you know, like I don't

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00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 5: want her in like the Expendables, but like she could

880
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Speaker 5: easily be in like the next Fast and Furious movie.

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Speaker 5: She's definitely like a getting due old for this shit

882
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 5: kind of you know thing. That's not impression of Yeah,

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Speaker 5: for the record, not an impression of her, but just

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Speaker 5: just like a badass lady who's seen some shit and

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Speaker 5: and is like, yeah, I'll do one more job to it,

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00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 5: and they rocket it's perfect, and then the last one.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't really need to say very much

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Speaker 5: about this, but Simone Biles, you know, I think even

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Speaker 5: like MICHAELA. Skinner would agree with me at this point

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Speaker 5: that you just have to have her. If you can

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Speaker 5: have her, you have to have her around. She's gonna

892
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Speaker 5: get it done. She's she's cool, she's clutch. She Uh,

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Speaker 5: she's perfect, right national.

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Speaker 1: Hero no I Mikayla Skidder, who, by the way, blocked Simone.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get into that in tomorrow show. All

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Speaker 1: of the Gymnastics Tea is coming.

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Speaker 5: You can try, you can try to block some own bios, but.

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Speaker 2: Can't you can't. Uh. Those are extremely good answers.

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Speaker 1: We have a producer, Alex, of course has inside information.

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00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: I'm guessing this is producer Alex who wrote this.

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00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: Babe Diedrichson Zaharias was pretty racist.

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00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: She's a villain's flawed character protagony.

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Speaker 1: Your point that, like flat depiction, has left us all

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Speaker 1: heroicizing hero is that a word making her seem heroic and,

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Speaker 1: as it turns out, flawed in trouble, just like everybody else.

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Speaker 2: All right, here's my answers.

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Speaker 1: I went with all this year's Olympians just to keep it,

908
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Speaker 1: keep my pool tight. To choose from, I'm starting with

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Speaker 1: Shooter kim Yedji, as we pointed out, obsessed big Lydia

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Speaker 1: tar Energy. Also, I do love the little plushy elephant.

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00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: Apparently it's her daughters, but it reminds me of a

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Speaker 1: very like John Wick type storyline of like.

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Speaker 2: Hundred, I don't want to put this energy in the universe.

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Speaker 1: But in the movie version, the elephant belonged to someone

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Speaker 1: that she loved.

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Speaker 5: It's also man on fire Man fire creasy bear, that

917
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 5: little bear.

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00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: Yes when thousand percent that elephant is like the token

919
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: she carries with her to remind her of what she

920
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: needs to do. And as somebody pointed out, with those glasses,

921
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Speaker 1: she looks like she'd have to be a villain, but

922
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Speaker 1: she could also be a good guy with loose rules.

923
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Speaker 2: Which I like.

924
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: Veraotic good.

925
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: Yes, chaotic good.

926
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Speaker 1: I also had Sunny CHOI, but I actually wrote a

927
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Speaker 1: bit of a screenplay for her already, So this is

928
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Speaker 1: what I'm imaginings. She's thirty five years old, and then

929
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: we flash back to how she got to where she is.

930
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: She's a former gymnast, she burns out on the sport,

931
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Speaker 1: She goes to Wharton Studies business, becomes the director of

932
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: Global Creative Operations at s Day Lauder before leaving to

933
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: pursue breaking full time. Wait, hold on a minute, that's

934
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: the actual story of Sunny Choice, Like what real actual

935
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: f like to people not know? The Global Creative Operations

936
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Speaker 1: director at s Day Lauder while breaking on the side,

937
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Speaker 1: and there's like, I guess it's to take this seriously

938
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: and go to the Olympics.

939
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. We need a movie Unbelievable.

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00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: Okay, Lee Kiefer, who has just defended her gold medal

941
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: in fencing. I don't know much about her except she's

942
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: dating another fencer, So like the idea of like both

943
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: sword play sort of like sexually but also literally if

944
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: you've got in a fight with each other. There's way

945
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: too many fencing items around the home that you could

946
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: go to. But also look at any single photo of

947
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: her for her official Olympic portraits. She's got perfect liner,

948
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 1: she's got the bob, just like the Paris Games logo

949
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: slash Mary J.

950
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: Blige.

951
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: She looks like an assassin, like a French model, like

952
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: part time Runway, part time assassin kind of vibes we

953
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: need to.

954
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 3: Very mister and missus Smith energy exactly what I was thinking.

955
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: Yes, And then the last one is a Buddy kop

956
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: flick featuring Alona mar obviously our rugby queen with whom

957
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: we are obsessed, and Jordan Chiles, who can wink at

958
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 1: a camera in the middle of a fricking Olympic routine.

959
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: Can find the camera, wink and keep flipping. And the

960
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: size difference, the strength difference.

961
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Speaker 5: Just what do you think is the serious one? And

962
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 5: who do you think is the one just having fun?

963
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: Jordan is serious and she's gonna beat that ass. And

964
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: Aloda constantly turns to the camera with like a quick aside.

965
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, where do I sign?

966
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 6: Yeah?

967
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 3: Where do I sign?

968
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: This has been the longest fight me and we're gonna

970
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: go way over. But I've loved having you both, and

971
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see everybody else's lists for their movies.

972
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: Thank you guys for coming on.

973
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: We got to take it back to the text and

974
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: after that USA lost to Azerbaijan.

975
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 2: That's exactly where we're all headed. God darn it all.

976
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: Thank you, Josh, thanks Kaleane.

977
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 3: Thanks Sarah, Thanks y'all, Hang tight.

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00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: We'll be right back with more good game with Sarah Spain.

979
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 2: You're back.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, and we love that you're listening. But

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Speaker 1: we do want you to get in the game every

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Speaker 1: As you heard in the group chat, it's time for

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Speaker 1: another fight me.

985
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Speaker 1: I need the five Summer Olympic athletes you'd most like

987
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 1: to see star in a feature film.

988
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: It could be about their life or have nothing it

989
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,560
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Speaker 1: of these paras Olympics so far.

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Speaker 2: Here's the gist.

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Speaker 1: Just as the games were getting underway, the most wholesome

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Speaker 1: video of New Zealand rugby player michaeleb Blyde fangirling Jamaican

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Speaker 1: sprinting superstar and eight time Olympic medalist Shelley and Fraser

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Speaker 1: Price went viral. Blide was so overcome with emotion after

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Speaker 1: Fraser Price followed her on social media that she made

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Speaker 1: her teammates send her a message on her behalf. The

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Speaker 1: two met It was emotional and they got a super

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Speaker 1: cute photo together and the story could have ended there,

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Speaker 1: but it didn't. Of course it didn't, because on Tuesday,

1011
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: New Zealand won rugby gold with Bliede scoring a key try.

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00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,400
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