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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, November eleventh, twenty twenty one, season seventeen,
Speaker 1: episode number fifty nine. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 1: The Break, Live from s WBC Morgat Studios. At the start,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited about doing the show, but man, it's
Speaker 1: like every time you think things are kind of pulling
Speaker 1: back together, you're getting your guys back, something just happens
Speaker 1: from an injury standpoint that just has you scratching your head.
Speaker 1: We hear this morning that Randy Gregory, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: as I was putting together the rundown for the show yesterday,
Speaker 1: I saw the injury report and I noticed Randy Gregory's
Speaker 1: name on their limited. I'm like, Okay, it's probably just
Speaker 1: one of those things, just kind of taking it easy. Then,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy says today in his press conference stead. This
Speaker 1: is a multiple week injury. This is not a just
Speaker 1: a you know, vet day or kind of give a
Speaker 1: guy a little break to rest something that's been bothering him.
Speaker 1: My question for you guys, let's let's just get to
Speaker 1: the brass taxes thing. What does this what does this
Speaker 1: injury look like as far as just timetable? What do
Speaker 1: we think as far as timetable and how the Cowboys
Speaker 1: at chust. The fact that Mike McCarthy didn't rule out
Speaker 1: injured reserve tells you all you need to know. But
Speaker 1: the fact that they don't know yet also means it's
Speaker 1: multiple week but that could be if they if they
Speaker 1: haven't already decided, that means you're at least within the
Speaker 1: possibility of it being a two or three week injury.
Speaker 1: I always try to be conservative with injury diagnosis. Now, well,
Speaker 1: Gallum were being a perfect example of why these things
Speaker 1: take time. So but I mean, it sounds like they'll
Speaker 1: be without him for multiple games, maybe even as long
Speaker 1: as three to five. I mean, it's it's a calf injury.
Speaker 1: He did say, you know, no two are the same.
Speaker 1: He said it was a similar part of the calf
Speaker 1: to Dak that's what he's said. Miss what three weeks?
Speaker 1: Dak missed two weeks, two weeks in one game because
Speaker 1: of the bye, he missed so few weeks. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was thinking three weeks from the time he played to
Speaker 1: the time he played, but it would been Yeah, he
Speaker 1: missed two games, or would have if it were two buy,
Speaker 1: so it could be two. Michael Gallup had a calf
Speaker 1: injury and is just now coming back in mid November
Speaker 1: after Week one, so somewhere in between. That's interesting though,
Speaker 1: you know, you're talking about two games. It's usually Sunday
Speaker 1: to Sunday. But as we sit here and he suffered
Speaker 1: it on a Wednesday, we're talking about having some Thursday
Speaker 1: games coming up. So yeah, I mean, I you hope
Speaker 1: it's more like that and less like Gallop, but that
Speaker 1: is And yeah, this is the stretch of time where
Speaker 1: we're about to get into that window where they're gonna
Speaker 1: play four games in twenty days or whatever the math is,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, after this it goes to Kansas
Speaker 1: City Thanksgiving and then another Thursday games. It's just been
Speaker 1: a tech it's just been tag team wrestling the whole time.
Speaker 1: It's just been like, all right, I'm back, all right,
Speaker 1: I mean, and we've talked about it then, overcoming so
Speaker 1: many different challenges throughout the season. But to me, like,
Speaker 1: am I exaggerating to like by feeling that with this
Speaker 1: kind of news, I feel like, damn with screw on defense,
Speaker 1: That's how I feel with Randy, a player like Randy
Speaker 1: the way he's been playing on that defense, and right now,
Speaker 1: just imagine him out of the mix, and then while
Speaker 1: we wait for DeMarcus Lawrence and even with Dlock coming back,
Speaker 1: I mean, at what pace is it gonna be? You know,
Speaker 1: because sometimes it does, say like a game or two
Speaker 1: for players even like him, to kind of get back
Speaker 1: into the groove of things. But right now, I feel like, damn,
Speaker 1: am I exaggerating? Well, Well, he's been the best player
Speaker 1: on defense. He's been better. I mean he I think
Speaker 1: he's been better consistently now than Digs and Parsons who
Speaker 1: have been great at times. But I think for what
Speaker 1: that position gives you, I mean, he he has cleaned
Speaker 1: up a lot of messes and he's been a dynamic player.
Speaker 1: And so now I don't know about screwed. I mean,
Speaker 1: but because dan Quinn has had less talent and had
Speaker 1: good defenses. So we'll see what he can come up with.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I mean it's frustrating to have a
Speaker 1: player like that that's you know, goes down to another injury. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think you're exaggerating. I also, it's just it's
Speaker 1: it's football, it's the NFL. We're halfway through the season,
Speaker 1: and damn there there can't be more than a handful
Speaker 1: of teams that think that they've had good injury luck.
Speaker 1: Right now, like every seventy five percent of the teams
Speaker 1: in the league think they can't buy a break. It's
Speaker 1: it's the nature of the game. Well, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: one thing when your quarterback is rolling out in overtime
Speaker 1: and beats the Patriots, a team you hadn't beaten in
Speaker 1: thirty years, and you score a touchdown, and that's the
Speaker 1: good news. The bend news is he suffered a caff injury.
Speaker 1: But we'll see if we got to buy we'll see.
Speaker 1: It sucks when it's out here at practice and that's
Speaker 1: they're doing out here. I have a memory at some
Speaker 1: point this year, I think it was at the end
Speaker 1: of training camp. I was like, now you don't really
Speaker 1: have to hold your breath about practice anymore, because the
Speaker 1: season practices are different than camp practices, and you don't
Speaker 1: hear a whole hell of a lot about injuries happening
Speaker 1: during game weeks, and Randy's this has got to be
Speaker 1: at least the second guy who's Yeah, because CD rolled
Speaker 1: his ankle last week at practice, But that's also these
Speaker 1: kinds of cans. Yeah, so I knew it was more
Speaker 1: than Yeah. Three guys have gotten hurt at practice, and
Speaker 1: two of them are significant, And I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: say that they're doing something wrong. I just it's it's
Speaker 1: a tough break that you're usually not used to having
Speaker 1: to deal with, and they can be just just like
Speaker 1: use type injuries, these are not like they necessarily were
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, make this incredible block or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's just overuse of After a certain amount of time,
Speaker 1: sometimes you can freak things happen. I'm not throwing I'm
Speaker 1: not questioning the way Mike McCarthy runs his practices or
Speaker 1: the medical staff. I already see people, this is the
Speaker 1: third calf injury of the year. People we're doing out there?
Speaker 1: Do we need to look at the training staff? No,
Speaker 1: the training staff has done a hell of a job
Speaker 1: getting all of these guys back for you. By the way,
Speaker 1: it's just again it's football. Yeah, I mean I remember
Speaker 1: eight nine years ago it was it was a hamstring.
Speaker 1: It was miles off and just a bunch of that
Speaker 1: was my first year. And then we couldn't We ran
Speaker 1: out of room to write about all the hamstrings on
Speaker 1: and then about I don't know, five years ago, six
Speaker 1: years ago. I know Dan Bailey was one of them.
Speaker 1: It was the back. You remember, it was a lot
Speaker 1: of tiring you had Bailey's it was happening Lyle had
Speaker 1: a back a lot. So it's just seems like they
Speaker 1: do kind of sometimes come in bunches, is in a
Speaker 1: particular carry other body. But I don't think. I think
Speaker 1: you get in trouble when you start trying to make
Speaker 1: comparisons between injuries and oh, we got a lot of these,
Speaker 1: so it must mean something. No, it just means that
Speaker 1: a couple guys got the same injury. It's not not
Speaker 1: to mention. I mean the workload. I mean, you couldn't
Speaker 1: ask for three more different situation or receiver and end
Speaker 1: in a quarterback. I mean, it's not like they're out
Speaker 1: there doing the same drills or Mike McCarthy doesn't have
Speaker 1: these guys doing caf raises in between reps. You know,
Speaker 1: it's be pretty interesting. No, I don't think it would.
Speaker 1: That might not be a good idea. Oh I liked
Speaker 1: his answer. You know about somebody asked them, does this
Speaker 1: mean Michael Parsons is going to rush the faster? And
Speaker 1: he's like, well, see it noon the game starts and
Speaker 1: don't be late. Well I can ask you got the answers, Yes,
Speaker 1: the answers, yes, you think he's now going to be
Speaker 1: rushing the past. But I'm saying, like, do you think
Speaker 1: they like they did in the Charge again, like they're
Speaker 1: gonna line him up he's gonna be your defensive I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I would I would not. Okay, have it out, let's go,
Speaker 1: who's gonna do it? What I'm thinking, what are you
Speaker 1: getting from your edge rushers if you don't have Nick
Speaker 1: is thinking Drance? Okay, No, I'm Mica has more career
Speaker 1: sacks than Dorrance already, by the way, from where Dorance
Speaker 1: has been on the team since twenty eighteen, coming from
Speaker 1: where he Dorance has two career sacks playing end and
Speaker 1: Mica got one against the Chargers. That's fine. Like I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not comparing Dorance Armstrong and Micah Parsons. What
Speaker 1: I'm what I'm saying is that I still feel like
Speaker 1: Mica has been a better player. When he is a
Speaker 1: linebacker and he's rushing from all over the place, I
Speaker 1: don't think he's as good. Just right there, we have
Speaker 1: a guy like Randy Gary out though you don't have
Speaker 1: the luxury to use for you, who's playing on Neil
Speaker 1: Lane Van Rush? No? Thanks, okay, nothing, because when you
Speaker 1: did that against the Chargers, laugh if you want. But
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith played and he played pretty well in that
Speaker 1: game against the Chargers. He did a nice job in
Speaker 1: that game, and in you get him? Why do you
Speaker 1: have to do these things? I've heard worse things in
Speaker 1: the world. I'm asking the question, I mean because I
Speaker 1: thought he was about when Ambrass. I thought it's a
Speaker 1: valid question, like, okay, if you move him, Like who's
Speaker 1: going to be your linebackers? I think that's a valid question.
Speaker 1: Keyan O'Neill and Layton Vandersch, Like what are we talking
Speaker 1: about here? I know I agree with Nick to a
Speaker 1: degree that Keyan O'Neill hasn't been this revelation. He's been fine,
Speaker 1: He's got thirty tackles, he's started two games. I mean,
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons is dynamic in the role that we've seen
Speaker 1: the last few weeks. Bash him, okay, Just like you
Speaker 1: said that Kean O'Neill and Layton Vandersch would be fine,
Speaker 1: I also think bash him and Dorn's Armstrong would probably
Speaker 1: be fine as well. But I got I got this
Speaker 1: dynamic player that they don't know where he's coming from, which,
Speaker 1: as I say over and over and over again, it
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be either or. I don't want him
Speaker 1: to do just one thing. He needs to give them
Speaker 1: something from the edge in this game. I just expect
Speaker 1: at this point his number of reps is going to
Speaker 1: go up, but he's going to probably do both. He
Speaker 1: plays sixty snaps, I would like to see at least
Speaker 1: fifteen of them come from the edge, just to give
Speaker 1: them something. And I'm fine with that. The week two
Speaker 1: against the Chargers, he only played like thirty snaps. He
Speaker 1: didn't play a lot, and they were they used him
Speaker 1: as a true like he was part of the edge rotation.
Speaker 1: That's not necessarily what I'm asking for. Yeah, he needs
Speaker 1: they need some juice off the edge that I don't
Speaker 1: Terrell Basham and Dorin's Armstrong can do their jobs, and
Speaker 1: there's way more to playing defensive end than just rushing
Speaker 1: the passer. We know that, but they don't have any
Speaker 1: juice around the corner without Micah doing that. With Randy
Speaker 1: and demark Slawrence just sitting out, how much of a
Speaker 1: challenge do you think this is when you come to
Speaker 1: this is a relatively a relatively easier schedule, But this
Speaker 1: part of the schedule, I think you're facing some teams
Speaker 1: that are probably as good as what you're gonna face
Speaker 1: this season. When you've got not necessarily Atlanta, which you
Speaker 1: can say which you want about Atlanta, but then you
Speaker 1: get to Kansas City, who has a pretty good passing attack.
Speaker 1: We did this last week we started talking about Darren
Speaker 1: Waller and I'm not saying it's a superstition thing like
Speaker 1: we can't do that, but well, one thing at a time, man,
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't know the length of Randy's injury.
Speaker 1: We do know it's multiple week we do so these
Speaker 1: teams do these But for the next three weeks, you've
Speaker 1: got Atlanta, then you've got Kansas City, then you've got
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Let's sort through how to do this. Man.
Speaker 1: It's not a it's not a matter of like we
Speaker 1: need to focus and only talk about Atlanta. It's like,
Speaker 1: we there's so much we don't know. We don't know
Speaker 1: what his timetable is, we don't know what their game
Speaker 1: plan is against Atlanta. They could pick and choose this thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're probably not going to add talent from
Speaker 1: outside the team. So I think what you do against
Speaker 1: Kansas City and Las Vegas will probably be informed by
Speaker 1: how successful your game plan is this week. If I
Speaker 1: had to guess, maybe Basham or were And or Armstrong
Speaker 1: play the game of their life and you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we don't need Mica so much. Maybe Matt Ryan has
Speaker 1: all freaking day on Sunday, and you're like, we gotta
Speaker 1: do something. We don't want to move Mica, but it
Speaker 1: calls for it, you know. And that's all I mean.
Speaker 1: It's not like, of course we can talk about other games.
Speaker 1: It's just there's so much we don't know. Here on
Speaker 1: Thursday of game week, this is the second time again
Speaker 1: they had to throw their game plan out the window
Speaker 1: against LA and I don't know if they if they're
Speaker 1: going to do that this week, but it's at least possible.
Speaker 1: It's it's worth a thought. Yeah, yeah, this is a
Speaker 1: like Nick said, this is your best defensive player. That's
Speaker 1: a pretty big deal when you lose your pretty your
Speaker 1: best defensive mand. I really wanted to see him rush
Speaker 1: the pastor against Mahomes too, I know, okay, also against
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, but I mean I thought I thought that
Speaker 1: would have That was just a good matchup. I can't
Speaker 1: I couldn't wait to see. And I was hoping DL
Speaker 1: would be back for that one too. But both of them,
Speaker 1: but you know, you got it's rare that you're gonna
Speaker 1: face back to back in VP quarterbacks, I mean former
Speaker 1: mvpsy because they're not Neither one of them are playing
Speaker 1: like MVP level right now. Um. I think one of
Speaker 1: them can figure it out though, but it might be
Speaker 1: that we'll be against the count. He's not there to
Speaker 1: make them uncomfortable. Don't you just see Tyreek Hill just
Speaker 1: just I've been sayings into the end zone. I've been
Speaker 1: saying all year, like the chief the Chiefs are Michael
Speaker 1: Myers to me, like you got, I know, you got
Speaker 1: to bury them under concrete for me to believe they're
Speaker 1: five and four. They could suck for another month and
Speaker 1: still figure it out in time to make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and then all bets are off. And what are the Falcons?
Speaker 1: Four and four? You know? Right now? The Falcons are
Speaker 1: the last wild the last wild card team right now,
Speaker 1: they are a playoff team as we sit here today. Well,
Speaker 1: last time as four and four team came into the
Speaker 1: stadium didn't go so well. Yeah, who was that the Bronco?
Speaker 1: Oh god, I'm sorry. I thought you were pulling up
Speaker 1: something from years like a couple of years ago. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I stick to right here, right here in the press, Briner.
Speaker 1: That's the The NFL is wild like that, like Denver
Speaker 1: in Atlanta has been circled for a long time. Is
Speaker 1: kind of like, okay, you get a break before this
Speaker 1: crazy stretch heading into December, and the Broncos aren't a
Speaker 1: wildcard team right now, but that that whole division is
Speaker 1: above five hundred, like mathematically, they are very much in
Speaker 1: the division race, let alone the wildcard race. And that
Speaker 1: and Atlanta is the seventh wildcard team right now. So
Speaker 1: this is why it's not fun. And I get called
Speaker 1: boring and a downer but like, why do we argue
Speaker 1: about this stuff in May? It just doesn't matter. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter at all because so many is gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I know the answer part about doing a playoffs? What
Speaker 1: are you gonna argue about? Yeah, all right, here's gonna do.
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Speaker 1: a little bit about the Cowboys offense versus the Atlanta
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Speaker 1: Bucky Less talks some Atlanta defense versus Cowboys offense. As
Speaker 1: I look through the statistical rankings of this team, this defense,
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like there's much to fear here. But
Speaker 1: at coming off a game like we had last week,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, Okay, well, maybe there's not much there,
Speaker 1: but maybe there is. And so I want to ask
Speaker 1: you what what's the best thing they do? And what's
Speaker 1: the thing that you can get them on. What's their weakness. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, statistically they haven't played well this season, but
Speaker 1: they played pretty well against the Saints for the most part.
Speaker 1: For about three quarters they had the Saints kind of
Speaker 1: nullified and locked up. That's the unit of plays. Sorry,
Speaker 1: they're still trying to figure out how to play in
Speaker 1: the scheme. Then Dean Piece and the guys are trying
Speaker 1: to put together down there. But I think obviously when
Speaker 1: you have the kind of performance that the Cowboys had
Speaker 1: a week ago, everyone is going to look at what
Speaker 1: the Broncos did and they're gonna try and steal some ideas,
Speaker 1: and so I think the Cowboys can expect to see
Speaker 1: some of that man match coverage where they're passing off
Speaker 1: things and playing man demand, trying to take away some
Speaker 1: of the easy thrills and trying to confuse Dak with
Speaker 1: the way that they switch and kind of nutty up
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. They can really generate pressure
Speaker 1: because they they just haven't been able to do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Dantefalla may come back, but they
Speaker 1: don't have enough up front to really get after it.
Speaker 1: So because they can't get after you with pressure. They
Speaker 1: gotta put a lot more of their eggs in the
Speaker 1: coverage basket and see if they can kind of confuse
Speaker 1: the quarterback by switching up things to make a very
Speaker 1: very cloudy for him when he's trying to read Bucky.
Speaker 1: When I think of Falcon's defense, I think of like
Speaker 1: Jesse Tuggle or something. I don't really know a lot
Speaker 1: of guys there on that defense, but I'm gonna kind
Speaker 1: of flip the script because we just found out the
Speaker 1: news on Randy Gregory on a defensive end being out
Speaker 1: for a few weeks for the Cowboys. What what would
Speaker 1: you do there a defensive end if you're Dallas for
Speaker 1: this game, I think you have I think you have
Speaker 1: to play more set packages. I think you have to
Speaker 1: use Mica a little more off the edge. I think
Speaker 1: you have to kind of blend in some of your
Speaker 1: nickel dime packages so you can free Mica up to
Speaker 1: do those things. He's the most explosive player on the
Speaker 1: two deep roster off the edge that's available, so you
Speaker 1: have to use them in that role, and it's one
Speaker 1: where you lose some of his playmaking ability as a sideline.
Speaker 1: The sideline player, but in this game. You need the
Speaker 1: pressure because you can't let Matt Ryan sit back there
Speaker 1: forty forty five times without the rest. He still is
Speaker 1: good enough to pick apart secondaries, and so I think
Speaker 1: Mica has to have a bigger role coming off the edge. Buggy,
Speaker 1: you kind of talked about this at the jump, but
Speaker 1: I'm just curious from your experience in the league, like
Speaker 1: when somebody's when Denver obviously is who I'm referring to,
Speaker 1: when somebody's game plan works that well against an opponent,
Speaker 1: like when you're watching and game planning that, how much
Speaker 1: do you think the Falcons change what they want to
Speaker 1: do or adopt that based on what they're seeing. I mean,
Speaker 1: I imagine you still have plenty of stuff in your
Speaker 1: own scheme that you want to stick with, but you
Speaker 1: can't ignore or how successful that is, I'm guessing no.
Speaker 1: So early in the game, you want to see if
Speaker 1: they've answered the question, if they've answered the question that
Speaker 1: pops up based on how the Broncos kind of slowed
Speaker 1: them down, and if they don't answer the question, they
Speaker 1: can't keep getting the steady diet of it. It's just
Speaker 1: the nature of the league. When you show stuff on
Speaker 1: tape that you have a problem with. You're gonna keep
Speaker 1: seeing it until you show people that you've resulted. And
Speaker 1: so for the Cowboys offense, it's going to be dealing
Speaker 1: with the match coverage and the way guys passed off,
Speaker 1: which is really interesting because the pages are really the
Speaker 1: pioneers of that coverage and so they didn't have as
Speaker 1: much success. But I don't remember why it really confounded
Speaker 1: the Cowboys when the Broncos did it. But yeah, you
Speaker 1: can see more of that, and it's actually a coverage
Speaker 1: that there's kind of People are talking about two deep
Speaker 1: coverage being the coverage days eure of the league, but
Speaker 1: it really hasn't been. It's been more match coverage because
Speaker 1: you look at how teams have slowed down some of
Speaker 1: the other high powered offenses. It's a lot of this
Speaker 1: man match coverage where you're passing things all playing man
Speaker 1: to man versus verticals, there, playing zone versus crossing rounds.
Speaker 1: You already said this was this wouldn't necessarily be a
Speaker 1: huge threat for the Cowboys, But can you talk about
Speaker 1: can you talk more about the matchup with the old
Speaker 1: line and if they do line up the same way
Speaker 1: that they did against Denver. Yeah, I mean, look, I
Speaker 1: think the offensive line has to play well. I think
Speaker 1: everybody has to play well. I think they just laid
Speaker 1: an egg last week. They certainly didn't bring the A
Speaker 1: game or the games that we've seen to in the
Speaker 1: sixth game WINNI streak. I think everybody, us included might
Speaker 1: have looked past the Denver Broncos and didn't give them
Speaker 1: enough respect. I think when you lose the game like
Speaker 1: you lose to the Broncos, I think that Lena fall
Speaker 1: can certainly get your attention, you pay more attention to
Speaker 1: the details and meeting. Everyone is on alert. I think
Speaker 1: just by that nature, they'll play better. But then I
Speaker 1: think Terrence still should be more comfortable. Another week of
Speaker 1: practice at left tackle lel Collins to kind of settle
Speaker 1: in knock off all the rust, and I would expect
Speaker 1: the offense in line to have a better performance. Even
Speaker 1: though they need to be aware of Brady Jared on
Speaker 1: the inside. He still is a guy that can't be
Speaker 1: disrupted at the point of attack. Did you see anything
Speaker 1: from Terrence Steele that made you say, hey, maybe the
Speaker 1: better option here is to switch he and Lyle and
Speaker 1: put him back on the right and then have Lyle
Speaker 1: play left. Well, I mean, so he's thinking it was
Speaker 1: a long term deal where you knew that Terrence Steal
Speaker 1: and Leo Collins were gonna have to be your starters.
Speaker 1: Then what maybe you do is you leave Terrence Steele
Speaker 1: a right because that's where he was playing. Well, le
Speaker 1: Collins comes in the left, and you kind of stay
Speaker 1: that way for a while. But I think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: thinking is, eventually Timer Smith is going to come back,
Speaker 1: and when he comes back, he starts the left tackle.
Speaker 1: Leo Collins is our best option at right tackle. Let's
Speaker 1: get this lineup going, so let's make sure that lel
Speaker 1: is comfortable, and then when Ron Smith is eventually coming back,
Speaker 1: we can remove Tarrance Steel and everybody's into a normal spots.
Speaker 1: I think Dad had a lot to do with the
Speaker 1: decisions that led to the lineup and the reshuffle. More
Speaker 1: so than hey, let's move Terrence Steel to the left
Speaker 1: because we just feel like he's gonna be a better
Speaker 1: left than Leo Collins. I think it is about trying
Speaker 1: to keep the continuity so when the starters all come back,
Speaker 1: everyone is into comfortable in natural spots. Every indication is
Speaker 1: that aj Terrell's having a really solid season in year
Speaker 1: two for them. What are his strengths and weaknesses? How
Speaker 1: do they use him? How would you imagine they will
Speaker 1: use him? Especially with us. I mean, Michael Gallup's going
Speaker 1: to be available for this game, so the Cowboys should
Speaker 1: have all three of their main receivers for the first
Speaker 1: time in a while. Yeah. I mean, look, he's a
Speaker 1: good player. I mean he's the first round pick. He
Speaker 1: played pretty well at Clempson. I know everyone remembers the
Speaker 1: game at LSU where they kind of beat his back
Speaker 1: out in the championship game, but he was a really
Speaker 1: good player leading up to that. He's pretty vocal in
Speaker 1: the way that he can play. He can press, he
Speaker 1: can play off, he can do a bunch of different things.
Speaker 1: I think in this game, I don't think you travel
Speaker 1: him because I don't know who you would pick to
Speaker 1: try and neutralize. I think he plays on his natural
Speaker 1: side of the field and he takes on whoever's there.
Speaker 1: The problem is now when the three are back Gallup Ceedee,
Speaker 1: Lamb and Cooper, Now you have a problem either way
Speaker 1: because two of those guys who we get one on
Speaker 1: one matchups and kind of have their way. It's a
Speaker 1: tough matchup for Atlanta, and I think we kind of
Speaker 1: forget we haven't really seen this lineup in a long time.
Speaker 1: This is the one that everyone feared. When you have
Speaker 1: that eleven personnel with one tight end, these three bar
Speaker 1: receivers Zeke or Tony polland in the backfield. This is
Speaker 1: the explosive, high powered offense to everyone fears around the league.
Speaker 1: Well a lot of those guys, with the exception of
Speaker 1: Gallup of course. How in last game we saw many
Speaker 1: balls being dropped, not catching the ball and all that.
Speaker 1: How good is this team as far as like takeaways
Speaker 1: and do they even get close to getting the ball often? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean like they can get around it. They're gonna
Speaker 1: play hard, they can run to the ball, that they
Speaker 1: can do those things. But I think a lot of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys issues are Look, it's one of those games
Speaker 1: where they have to focus on the dbos, like don't
Speaker 1: beat ourselves, turnovers, penalties, they plays allowed. If they take
Speaker 1: care of that and play clean football, they'll win those games.
Speaker 1: This is a game where they're better than the other team.
Speaker 1: And the only way that the Falcons can kind of thrive,
Speaker 1: survive and thrive is if you give them life by
Speaker 1: turning it over, having penalties that are silly, giving extra yards,
Speaker 1: letting the ball flower hit all that stuff. And so
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys just play a clean game, like the
Speaker 1: kind of game that they talked about repeatedly in training camp,
Speaker 1: where they just do the little things right, they'll win.
Speaker 1: But I think when you saw all of those things
Speaker 1: last week against the Brocos, first thing that stood out
Speaker 1: to me is this team isn't focused, This team isn't
Speaker 1: ready to play, and because they weren't ready to play,
Speaker 1: they walked out of the stadium with it him. All right,
Speaker 1: So it's prediction time. What do you think it's gonna
Speaker 1: happen Sunday? I think we see a better effort from
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I think the Cowboys take care of business,
Speaker 1: and I think it starts from the jump. I think
Speaker 1: this is a high alert game because they can't afford
Speaker 1: to fritter these games away. We can talk about the
Speaker 1: division potentially being wrapped up, but now it's about can
Speaker 1: you get to that number one seed? Because this year's
Speaker 1: playoffs are so different where you only have one team,
Speaker 1: but the boy, it behooves the Cowboys to see if
Speaker 1: they can get into position to get the number one,
Speaker 1: so then it only takes two to get to the
Speaker 1: bowld as opposed to three, and that long, that long
Speaker 1: road of having to beat all these different teams in
Speaker 1: the potential matchup that you could face. All right, Bucky man,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you this good stuff. We'll catch up with
Speaker 1: you next week as we get ready for the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs. We'll take our final break, we'll come back,
Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit more about the offense and
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more about this whole thing with
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory and how the Cowboys are gonna adaptle that
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Speaker 1: from s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Let's catch
Speaker 1: up a real quickly on a couple other injuries guys
Speaker 1: that have misspracticed this week. Let's talk about first a
Speaker 1: couple of guys that they held out yesterday, that they
Speaker 1: held out as a precaution I think Brian Anger and
Speaker 1: Jake McQuaid, what is this status and where surely precautionary.
Speaker 1: They're not even close contacts because that's a whole separate thing.
Speaker 1: They just they were like, well, the specialists spends all
Speaker 1: their time together. Let's just be smart about this. It
Speaker 1: sounds like everything's okay. There's nobody new in the COVID protocol.
Speaker 1: They should both be at practice today. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if we've even discussed it. I mean,
Speaker 1: as it stands right now, Greg's airline still in the protocol.
Speaker 1: They signed. Oh yeah, they signed a new kicker, and
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about it. Was actually gonna get to
Speaker 1: him next, so great, goodn't you want to fill us in? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They signed the practice to the practice squad lear him
Speaker 1: who practice? He got checked? Nice, there you go, hi
Speaker 1: allah who um. And and by putting him on the
Speaker 1: practice squad, they don't have to use a roster spot.
Speaker 1: They'll just use a it's a COVID elevation is what
Speaker 1: that will be. So they won't even he won't even
Speaker 1: be anybody else on the on the roster, so that
Speaker 1: they'll get the exception there um we'll see see what
Speaker 1: he does. I guess he beat out Brett Mahart in
Speaker 1: the kicking competition. I mean, of course, know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, did they kick sixty yarders? Because if they did,
Speaker 1: mahar probably beat him, but they probably just kick the
Speaker 1: forty yards hire law who sounds like he's got a
Speaker 1: leg on him, because I don't know if as soon
Speaker 1: as he signed, all the NFL accounts start tweeting out
Speaker 1: the video of him practicing like he hit like a
Speaker 1: fifty eight yarder with the wind and a fifty five
Speaker 1: yard or into the wind. You know, I know it's
Speaker 1: not the NFL. I get that, but this guy's attempted
Speaker 1: like two hundred and eighty field goals in the Canadian
Speaker 1: Football League. Let me throw us off, Yeah, let me
Speaker 1: gotta be tough for king there. Well because in the elements,
Speaker 1: although which word, nobody cares about the CFL, but the
Speaker 1: goalposts are at the front of the end zone A
Speaker 1: lot of levels care about. Yeah, yeah, we love u CFL.
Speaker 1: I just mean in terms of what you're gonna do
Speaker 1: on Sunday, but like it's totally different, Like the goalposts
Speaker 1: are at the front of the end zone, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. It's probably really tough, but the yard,
Speaker 1: but the yard is still still the same. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: here's the deal. I'll throw this out here. I looked
Speaker 1: up some of his numbers because obviously, if there's any
Speaker 1: position that you can say translates well from CFL to
Speaker 1: NFL would be kicker because it's still just kicking field
Speaker 1: goals right over his he's been. He was in the
Speaker 1: CFL for six years. He was an All Star in
Speaker 1: the CFL as a kicker, so one of the better
Speaker 1: kickers in the CFL. Over the last four seasons. Though
Speaker 1: field goal percentage, he had a long of fifty six,
Speaker 1: he averaged sixty three yards on kids cost Nick, you
Speaker 1: and I were talking about that let's get put a
Speaker 1: pin and that we'll get back to that. But if
Speaker 1: you look at is what he made and missed. He
Speaker 1: was perfect zero to nineteen. He was he was ninety
Speaker 1: eight percent twenty to twenty nine, So not bad. You
Speaker 1: wanted to probably be one hundred percent there, but not bad.
Speaker 1: He was ninety percent thirty to thirty nine. That's where
Speaker 1: it gets a little bit weird because you still want
Speaker 1: him to make those more regularly than ninety percent point
Speaker 1: and then forty to forty nineties eighty four percent fifty
Speaker 1: plus he's eighty eight percent, so fourteen to sixteen fifty plus,
Speaker 1: So that's pretty good. It sounds like he's Greg Zerline obviously,
Speaker 1: and that's my point. Like I look at this and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if I see a huge
Speaker 1: difference between him and Greg Zerline, other than I do
Speaker 1: think Greg Greg Zerline has a pension for hitting those
Speaker 1: kicks that are that are meaningful lad in games. And
Speaker 1: we don't know that about Hira lah No, we don't.
Speaker 1: But fifty sixty seventy thousand people watch go to the
Speaker 1: stadium to watch the CFL. You know it's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's I just said, nobody cares. I was being tongue like.
Speaker 1: It's very popular in Canada, so it should I would
Speaker 1: imagine this shouldn't be too big of a difference for him,
Speaker 1: considering their lines on the COVID list. I feel pretty
Speaker 1: good about it, honestly. Yep. Thing that I'm going to
Speaker 1: be looking at is, you know, kicking off. If they
Speaker 1: get to you know, if they get to kick off
Speaker 1: a lot, I'm averaging sixty three yards that will put
Speaker 1: it like right regular, like one time the last week.
Speaker 1: So because they didn't score any parnts, so they gotta
Speaker 1: they gotta. I mean it makes me wonder despite of
Speaker 1: I mean, with you even saying how similar they are,
Speaker 1: and I mean they were competing to kind of competing
Speaker 1: earlier on um. But it makes me wonder how conservative
Speaker 1: or if at all, the Cowboys become as far as
Speaker 1: their game plan or not conservative. I would say, risk
Speaker 1: it more to take more chances to not necessarily have
Speaker 1: to kick. So do you guys think I mean they
Speaker 1: would put him, how much trust they would give this guy?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm trying to say, Like he's going
Speaker 1: to get a chance to get out there. I mean,
Speaker 1: if it's in the thirty forty range, I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna I don't think they're gonna do it any differently.
Speaker 1: They might do it differently on a fifty yarder, but
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of it too, like we we forget.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna get a good idea when he
Speaker 1: gets to the stadium and what he's kicking, what it
Speaker 1: looks like there, And you know, I just don't think
Speaker 1: they'll change their approach that much. I don't either, And
Speaker 1: I actually I looked this up this morning. For all
Speaker 1: the talk about going for it and like whether or
Speaker 1: not it's a good idea, most of their attempts have
Speaker 1: not been from common sense fuel goal range. They did
Speaker 1: it against Denver, and they did one, and they did
Speaker 1: one from the New York twenty eight in the Giants game.
Speaker 1: But really, other than that, it's either too far away
Speaker 1: to be a fuel goal, or they're right up on
Speaker 1: the goal line where anybody would want them to go
Speaker 1: for it anyway. So there haven't been a whole lot
Speaker 1: of circumstances where it's like, well, you could take this
Speaker 1: forty yard field goal or go for it. Like usually
Speaker 1: it's either or it's we don't want to try a
Speaker 1: fifty eight yard kick, or we're an inch away from
Speaker 1: a touchdown, let's just go get it. That's usually what happens.
Speaker 1: So yeah, i'd be curious. I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: it'll change their their process too much if I had
Speaker 1: to guess. Or maybe it will though, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: their lines kicked a lot of field goals between what
Speaker 1: thirty five and forty five ish, give or take. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe you try that now because you're like, do we
Speaker 1: want to make this guy try a forty eight yard
Speaker 1: field goal in his first NFL game, or do we
Speaker 1: just want to put trust in Zeke Elliott. I hope
Speaker 1: they don't do that. I don't want them. I think
Speaker 1: when you start doing that and you start changing things
Speaker 1: before you know what you got, like, give him an opportunity.
Speaker 1: I think you go into the game saying he's our kicker.
Speaker 1: He again, we looked at all the numbers. He's a
Speaker 1: guy that has a resume of being able to make kicks,
Speaker 1: So give him an opportunity to make kicks. If you
Speaker 1: get in the game and he's missing a lot, then
Speaker 1: alter your strategy, and if you have to do it,
Speaker 1: multiple leaks and alter your strategy for future weeks. But
Speaker 1: I think for right now, I think you go in,
Speaker 1: you try to approach it as you would with a
Speaker 1: normal kicker. If you get into some of those long situations,
Speaker 1: maybe you don't try him at fifty five fifty six
Speaker 1: unless you have to. But I do think some of
Speaker 1: those closer in field goals, I think you just got
Speaker 1: to give him a chance and let him see. Let
Speaker 1: improve you prove to you that he can or can't
Speaker 1: do it, before you just assume that you don't want
Speaker 1: to put him in the position. Talking about Cedric Wilson,
Speaker 1: he also missed practiced with a shoulder injury. McCarthy tag,
Speaker 1: you're it, You're out. Gallup, you're in. I mean, so
Speaker 1: he's out, McCarthy said today, they're being smart with him.
Speaker 1: So when the coach says that, I assume it's just
Speaker 1: a monitoring thing and he should be fine. But it
Speaker 1: definitely helps. Sorry, it definitely helps that get people keep
Speaker 1: asking me this, Like nobody believes me. Michael Gallup's going
Speaker 1: to play. He doesn't have to be on the roster
Speaker 1: right now, he will be by the time the weekend
Speaker 1: rolls around. He's he's gonna play in this game. So
Speaker 1: if for some reason Cedric can't go, at least you
Speaker 1: have that in your back pocket. Good, okay, good, all right,
Speaker 1: real quick, I did I did want to talk a
Speaker 1: little bit more about the offense before we end the show.
Speaker 1: I asked Bucky this question about Terrence Steele. Did you
Speaker 1: guys see anything in that game that made you think, hey,
Speaker 1: maybe they need to reevaluate what they're doing at the
Speaker 1: left and right tackle position, or do you think, hey,
Speaker 1: he might have some issues but I think in the
Speaker 1: long term, this is probably the right decision. You just
Speaker 1: keep letting him get comfortable at left tackle until Tyrant
Speaker 1: can come back. It was one of the two things.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was one of the things I agreed
Speaker 1: with Bucky about. I didn't agree obviously with the Parsons
Speaker 1: on the edge, but I but, like we said the
Speaker 1: other day, like it just kind of hit me, like
Speaker 1: the light bulb came on, like, wait a second, this
Speaker 1: is all about Tyrn Smith, because if it's not, if
Speaker 1: they put Lyella on the left side and then Tyrn
Speaker 1: comes back, now they got another decision to make. This
Speaker 1: is about this is their swing tackle, and right now
Speaker 1: their left tackle is out, but he's coming back. So
Speaker 1: I from that standpoint, if that's the case, then then yeah,
Speaker 1: And everyone keeps saying this is not long term injury.
Speaker 1: So so I'm fine with that. I mean, I heard, Dave,
Speaker 1: I heard what you said on the radio. This it about.
Speaker 1: I already forgot what we are. You're just talking about
Speaker 1: Terrence Steele and how everyone it's tough to go right
Speaker 1: to left and he's had another week of practice. Let's
Speaker 1: see if he does it gets better at it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I said last week that I thought they should play
Speaker 1: LC on the left. But now that you've made a decision,
Speaker 1: I think you should probably stick with it, right because
Speaker 1: now you're you're just resetting the clock. Now it's now
Speaker 1: you're giving Lyle Collins three days to get ready and
Speaker 1: he hasn't played left tackle in almost a decade or
Speaker 1: no serious, I know, all of a sudden, seriously, Lyle
Speaker 1: Collins is like one of the most tenured players on
Speaker 1: this team. I don't know how that happened. Seven So okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I guess almost. It's close. It's close. It's like close
Speaker 1: to being close regardless. Um, so, like, why why mess
Speaker 1: with it? Like you you started this, Terrence Steele can
Speaker 1: only get better. It's not what I would have done,
Speaker 1: but you've committed to it. So I think you're only
Speaker 1: hurting yourself if you try to restart it again and say, okay,
Speaker 1: now go back over there. How maybe that'll hurt his
Speaker 1: confidence and then Elsie's got to do something he hasn't
Speaker 1: done in forever for the first time. I just you
Speaker 1: made a decision, you might as well stick with it.
Speaker 1: I get that logic, but it's just to me right now,
Speaker 1: I think it's delusional to hang on to this idea
Speaker 1: that Tyren Smith it's not a long term blah, it
Speaker 1: might not be long term. He might come back, but
Speaker 1: then you just never never know how much longer he
Speaker 1: is gonna be on that field for so I just
Speaker 1: I hate the idea of the decision that they made
Speaker 1: of moving Terrence Steel to the other side. I think
Speaker 1: he has been doing a really good job. I get
Speaker 1: it that he's the swin tackle, but whatever, I mean,
Speaker 1: suck it up, like Lyle Collins, You're a veteran guy.
Speaker 1: You can figure it out. You get paid, everybody gets
Speaker 1: pay it here or figure it out. I think that
Speaker 1: he should be replacing Terren Smith's spot and not have
Speaker 1: taken that chance. And I get your point, Dave, but
Speaker 1: you don't want to hear it though, no excuse this
Speaker 1: to me. I don't want to hear it. I think
Speaker 1: I'd like to think of it more as irrationale than
Speaker 1: an excuse. But I hear you in semantics probably probably
Speaker 1: plenty is I don't agree with the decision making. I
Speaker 1: don't like it. I don't trust that Tyren Smith will
Speaker 1: be back for a long period, just because you just
Speaker 1: never know. So I'd rather just make a definite move
Speaker 1: right now. This is the game plan. If Tyren Smith
Speaker 1: does come back and Lill needs to sit out, I'm sorry, buddy,
Speaker 1: sit out for a little bit. It's okay, you might
Speaker 1: come back soon because you just can't trust Tyren Smith. Hill.
Speaker 1: I kind of agree with that because everything I've heard
Speaker 1: about this injury is basically it's only going to be
Speaker 1: either either time or surgery heals this like Goose, only
Speaker 1: two options, and so I don't know. They say it's
Speaker 1: a short term injury, but I don't know. Who knows.
Speaker 1: If it's another week, if it's another five weeks, who knows.
Speaker 1: And so that's why I don't look at this so
Speaker 1: much as well. He just got to buy time for
Speaker 1: this week, like it could be longer than that. And
Speaker 1: that's why I'm like, is this the right decision now?
Speaker 1: I do kind of agree that. I personally think that
Speaker 1: Terence still with more time, can get better at the position.
Speaker 1: I believe that I've seen it happen on the right side.
Speaker 1: I think it can probably happen on the left side
Speaker 1: as well. I don't know that it's that big of
Speaker 1: a difference. I just think it's an adjustment of being
Speaker 1: able to get more to the point where your body's
Speaker 1: just comfortable doing the things you have to do on
Speaker 1: the left side versus right. But that all being said,
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys got to look at this as
Speaker 1: more than just a short term injury. Unless they know
Speaker 1: something more than the reporting, they should to me, they
Speaker 1: should if surgery is an option, they should do it
Speaker 1: right now. That's well, I mean, it's we're past that
Speaker 1: point in my opinion. I was about before you said that.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, if they think there's even
Speaker 1: a remote chance that this is a five week injury
Speaker 1: and they're still treating it like day to day normal,
Speaker 1: you know, he could by the way, I just threw
Speaker 1: out five as just a right, you know, but like
Speaker 1: it's there, And I'm not trying to speculate either, But
Speaker 1: it's their job to have a firm idea of the timetable.
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, why isn't he on ir
Speaker 1: Why aren't you considering surgery? Like they should have made
Speaker 1: that call last week honestly, if they thought that that
Speaker 1: was something, I think it. But I think it happens
Speaker 1: like this with a lot of injuries sometimes where you're
Speaker 1: kind of waiting to see because your body can repair it.
Speaker 1: But then if after what happens after get weeks down
Speaker 1: the road and your body hasn't repaired, you probably all
Speaker 1: you know Hall of Famer. He's a quiet guy, but
Speaker 1: he's a commanding guy. He probably wants to be out there.
Speaker 1: He probably knows what people say about his injury history.
Speaker 1: So you've got him fighting against you, like I can
Speaker 1: push through it. I can push through it. I'll be ready.
Speaker 1: I'll be ready. It's still their job to have a
Speaker 1: better handle on it than we do. I just I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't really expect him to play this game. But
Speaker 1: if this is something that lingers onto where you don't
Speaker 1: know if he's going to be available, like into December,
Speaker 1: then I don't like the way that they're handling this.
Speaker 1: But all right, appreciate you, guys, Jonas. We'll be back tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: this game and hopefully get back on a winning track
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