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Speaker 1: The chef Chenko, thank you for checking in with me. Guys,

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest female fighters of all time. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest fighters of all time, regardless of gender,

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Speaker 1: sits down with us today. We were just talking about

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Speaker 1: your training camp and how you spend a lot of

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Speaker 1: time everywhere. But why do you feel it necessary to

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Speaker 1: be in Texas, New Jersey, Thailand?

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Speaker 2: I mean where else did you train that VI camp?

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Speaker 2: And how long was the camp?

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Speaker 3: I don't feel that it's necessary. It's just like the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why do you like it so much?

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Speaker 3: Because for me, travel and martial arts it's all ties

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Speaker 3: so much together that it's never separate. And travel was

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Speaker 3: always like big part of my lifestyle, same as martial arts.

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Speaker 3: All my travel because of martial arts. All my martial

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Speaker 3: arts is because of travel. It's like it's all one

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Speaker 3: and I feel it's a great opportunity. When you travel,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of like opening your mind.

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Speaker 4: It's you.

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Speaker 3: Able to meet new people with the same patient as

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Speaker 3: you are. You able to meet new cultures. You able

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Speaker 3: to get the best of every culture and see how

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Speaker 4: And then when.

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Speaker 3: You are back, appreciate what you have and what you

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Speaker 3: don't have, and like it's kind of like good things

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Speaker 2: Person, Yeah, where's home, man, It's Vegas. That's Vegas, y, Yeah, Vegas.

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Speaker 1: So where do you spend the majority of the camp?

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Speaker 1: How long are you in these places?

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Speaker 3: It's all depends. It's all depends. It's never fixed, it's

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Speaker 3: of the the terminal list. I was doing some fight scenes.

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Speaker 1: Like the more you're on the show, Yeah, show terminal List.

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Speaker 3: Exactly the second season True Believer and I'm playing a spy.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to watch it. You're playing a spy. It's

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Speaker 1: absolutely perfect. For years I've told you, for years, I

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Speaker 1: the spy. I cannot go watch what episode is it?

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Speaker 4: What episode to seven episode?

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Speaker 1: Okay, terminal lists episode two O seven, go watch the champ.

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Speaker 3: So same amazing training partners and I was very lucky

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Speaker 4: My training camp.

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Speaker 1: That's an amazing training camp. A lot of time and honestly,

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Speaker 2: But by going to all these new places.

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Speaker 1: I bet it's like refreshing to wake up in a

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Speaker 1: How quickly after your last title defense against Monofi or

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Speaker 1: be a super fight between you and Jehan Way Lee?

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Speaker 3: Pretty fast when I first like receive and notice about

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Speaker 3: But then I took a little bit time to actually

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Speaker 1: Seasick, you don't get like stomach hurt from like all

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Speaker 3: You know the best of Puget Sound, it's kind of

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Speaker 4: Because it's not open ocean. You don't have.

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Speaker 3: No, it might be a little bit like Rocky, but

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't bother your stomach at all. No, you

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Speaker 1: The whole time I'm throwing up over the side.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy. It just really messed me up.

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Speaker 1: Jiang Way Lee is a a champion like yourself. I

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Speaker 1: really believe that for the last five years female Fighter

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Speaker 1: the year. What type of challenge does she present to you,

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Speaker 1: being that you've defended this belt so many times against

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Speaker 3: Oh, Reiley, She's an amazing fighter. She is very strong, she's

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Speaker 4: Of martial arts.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's kind of like the highest challenge I

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Speaker 3: consider during the training campus every since that I have

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Speaker 3: to prepare the best. I have to be ready for

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Speaker 3: everything because it's martial arts.

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Speaker 4: It's MMA.

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Speaker 3: You cannot like things that it's going to be only

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Speaker 3: and I will do everything. My training can was amazing.

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Speaker 3: I will do everything to be in the fight and

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Speaker 1: You're an amazing striker, but lately you wrestle more. Right

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Speaker 1: like you wrestle, you control. Is that a conscious decision

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Speaker 1: Because you're so physically strong that once you get the

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Speaker 4: I feel that it's a majority times it's.

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Speaker 3: All about my opponents. It's kind of like being a

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Speaker 1: When you take away Lee as an opponent, where does

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Speaker 2: To these fighters?

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Speaker 3: I feel the same way that you just told me,

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Speaker 3: because she's my next challenge and I definitely will rank her,

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Speaker 4: No, it's not going to be. Even if you're thinking

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Speaker 3: To be easier challenges, then you're facing like someone superfurious,

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Speaker 2: Yeah that will suck. Yeah, you do not want to

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Speaker 4: To be very ready for ever since.

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Speaker 3: That's why I consider every my next challenge as a

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Speaker 1: This you definded about ten times, right, nine or nine?

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Speaker 1: This is going to be number ten. You've defindited ten

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Speaker 2: Because she's been the champion.

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Speaker 2: How do you.

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Speaker 1: Stay motivated to stay ahead of the curve like you

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Speaker 3: First of all, because martial arts for me, it's not

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Speaker 4: In my life.

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Speaker 3: I'm martial art, not martial artists. I am martial art

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Speaker 3: It's all my philosophy, all my life. It's number one

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Speaker 4: And proper recovery. Managing the training process.

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Speaker 3: It's very important too, because like many fighter feels that

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Speaker 3: You just cannot survive. The full training camp is that

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Speaker 3: very likely that my coach Bible Filotov, who is like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mindless, it's mindless. And also having that familiar place,

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Speaker 1: I was a guy that trained only one group of

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Speaker 3: it's kind of like I grew up in Kyrgyzstan. It's

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to like travel all the world, become

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's who because you appreciate it all

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Speaker 1: UFC's history. So congratulations on all your success. You are

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Speaker 1: the best guys. Valenteer the chef Chenko once again tries

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Speaker 1: to defend the Flyway Championship of the World this weekend

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Speaker 1: at UFC three twenty two from Madison Square Garden. Make

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Speaker 2: Peace,