Speaker 1: The Bachelor has been on for over twenty years. There
Speaker 1: has been love found and of course love lost amongst
Speaker 1: all the roses handed out. We thought we'd seen it all, engagements, weddings, babies,
Speaker 1: devastating breakups and forever friendships.
Speaker 2: But there is a darker side.
Speaker 1: Stories and scandals that were buried and never told, Questions
Speaker 1: that need answers, and truths that must be revealed. Beginning Monday,
Speaker 1: we bring you behind the camera and expose the stories
Speaker 1: that remained until now untold. A tell all from those
Speaker 1: you've gotten to know and love and those you love
Speaker 1: to hate. Ben Higgins and Ashley, I bring you Infamous.
Speaker 1: Sometimes roses are red flags. Listen Monday on the Almost
Speaker 1: Famous podcast feed to Infamous. Sometimes roses are red flags.
Speaker 2: Infamous is an idea that I think listeners and viewers,
Speaker 2: past viewers of the show and viewers today have been
Speaker 2: kind of asking for They're wondering what is going on
Speaker 2: with the show, and a lot of these questions that
Speaker 2: have been even made into television shows like Unreal that
Speaker 2: have lasted seasons. A lot of these big questions of
Speaker 2: how's the show actually made? Why do people kind of
Speaker 2: look the way they look after coming off the show,
Speaker 2: and maybe why is somebody a villain on the show
Speaker 2: that I meet them in person, they're so nice and
Speaker 2: friendly and welcoming. What is actually happening on this show
Speaker 2: to make people this way? This has been questions that
Speaker 2: so many viewers have asked for years.
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, everybody always asks is it real?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Did they make you say that?
Speaker 4: And now something's happening in the Bachelor background. The crew
Speaker 4: that we have known for so many years pretty much gone.
Speaker 4: I know one person that remains. And because they're all gone,
Speaker 4: Ben and I, to be quite honest, have not so
Speaker 4: many ties there, not so many loyalties left.
Speaker 2: Is that why you're willing to do it now?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: See, I find myself to be just a little bit
Speaker 4: more honest about the things that you and I have
Speaker 4: been so protective of because we were protecting the people
Speaker 4: who worked there.
Speaker 3: We love them.
Speaker 4: They gave us so much in life, Like ever, so
Speaker 4: much of what we live today is thanks to the
Speaker 4: people that work there. And now that nobody works there,
Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, I can kind of tell some more stories.
Speaker 4: We can give you guys, a little bit more juice.
Speaker 2: The juice is necessary now. I will still hold on
Speaker 2: to it. I've been lying to anybody for nine years
Speaker 2: by saying I do not blame editing for all of
Speaker 2: the cast members' mistakes. I refuse to do that. I've
Speaker 2: been on this show. Editing has been a problem for
Speaker 2: a few but a lot of times it's the decisions
Speaker 2: that people are making, or maybe I should say it differently.
Speaker 2: I think what we're going to find is it's the
Speaker 2: input of trusted producers who help cultivate the decisions that
Speaker 2: we then look back on and say that felt like
Speaker 2: a mistake.
Speaker 4: Okay, So Ben is going to take this side, and
Speaker 4: as a victim of Malia may I say editing I
Speaker 4: am probably going to be a little bit more lax
Speaker 4: when people do want to blame the storyline that they
Speaker 4: were fit into.
Speaker 2: It's so many different perspectives. Ashley and I can agree
Speaker 2: to disagree on this, but here's what we're going to
Speaker 2: get into. The show has changed, it has It has
Speaker 2: changed over the years that Ashley and I have been
Speaker 2: doing the almost famous podcast. We've talked here recently about
Speaker 2: how we think the show could be better. A lot
Speaker 2: of that is kind of an off hands approach to producing. Also,
Speaker 2: the show has changed in the fact that people's pursuits
Speaker 2: are different than maybe they used to be. I think
Speaker 2: that's obvious to any viewer. The show has changed also
Speaker 2: in the lack of viewers that are watching this show.
Speaker 2: And part of infamous is going to be digging in
Speaker 2: to ask the question why have people stopped watching?
Speaker 4: I must admit that since people have stopped watching, there
Speaker 4: hasn't been really any infamous moments. You know, think about
Speaker 4: the last infamous moments.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you look it up online, what are the
Speaker 2: most infamous moments of The Bachelor, I think you would
Speaker 2: be hard pressed to find any in the last five times.
Speaker 4: In the Brown season was probably the last one people
Speaker 4: would call infamous, whether it's the podium move or her
Speaker 4: just relationship with Tyler Cameron.
Speaker 3: There was one more.
Speaker 2: Thing, the windmill.
Speaker 3: Oh, the windmill.
Speaker 4: We had sex four terms the windmill thing, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3: What's his name? What was his name?
Speaker 2: Peter?
Speaker 4: Peter was in the windmill, Yes, but Luke was the
Speaker 4: one that she was coming at saying, guess what. I
Speaker 4: had sex the windmill four times and Jesus still loves
Speaker 4: me and it was amazing. And that was probably one
Speaker 4: of the last infamous moments that we've had and ever
Speaker 4: since then it's been a downlold sprial. But hopefully we
Speaker 4: do have Hannah Brown coming on the show in a
Speaker 4: couple months, and we're gonna have to get into those
Speaker 4: since her season is filled with those moments that we'd
Speaker 4: love to dig into further.
Speaker 2: I'm sure she would love to talk about all those moments.
Speaker 2: I'd probably be a blast.
Speaker 3: For her in prep for her wedding.
Speaker 2: You touched on a few things as we close here
Speaker 2: and get started in this infamous journey that I think
Speaker 2: is really really important for us to speak to. When
Speaker 2: we were on the show many years ago. The staff,
Speaker 2: a lot of the staff had been around for twenty years.
Speaker 2: Like they the camera and the audio had been around
Speaker 2: since the beginning episodes of The Bachelor and Bachelorette. The producers,
Speaker 2: a lot of them grew up within the franchise. They
Speaker 2: started as junior producers and moved their way up to
Speaker 2: EPs hosts of the show. Chris Harrison was around forever, right.
Speaker 2: He was known for The Bachelor and Bachelor for the
Speaker 2: first time ever, for the first time in Bachelor history.
Speaker 2: There is one person, one person we're still on this show,
Speaker 2: still around that we are familiar with and know of
Speaker 2: everybody else is new and that happened this offseason. That's
Speaker 2: a big deal. And so a big of the question
Speaker 2: there that I want to get to the bottom of
Speaker 2: is why, like why the change, why the switch? And
Speaker 2: then what what are they hoping has done differently to
Speaker 2: make this show back to what it was?
Speaker 3: And can we actually get it back to what it was?
Speaker 4: Will there one be a day in the future where
Speaker 4: Along Gale is back producing it and Chris Harrison is
Speaker 4: back as the host, perhaps after a couple of years break,
Speaker 4: and then it relives somewhere else like American Idol Dead.
Speaker 4: But we're going to get into this and we're gonna.
Speaker 3: Get as many.
Speaker 4: Juicy details about what happened in front of the camera
Speaker 4: and what happened.
Speaker 3: Behind the camera here for you guys.
Speaker 4: So what we'll be doing is having some of your
Speaker 4: favorite casts come on to talk about what you saw
Speaker 4: on TV as an infamous moment, but also what they
Speaker 4: experienced behind the scenes, all the conversations that they had
Speaker 4: with the producers, how long it got for them to
Speaker 4: get to the point in which the dramatic moment was made.
Speaker 4: And then we're also and this is when it gets
Speaker 4: special guys. We're also going to talk to producers. We're
Speaker 4: going to try to make them as incognito as possible.
Speaker 4: We want to know why the franchise has seemingly fallen
Speaker 4: apart over the past few years. We want to know
Speaker 4: not just that, but also how these huge moments were
Speaker 4: produced and how your favorite seasons were produced, because sometimes
Speaker 4: it's even more dramatic behind the scenes than it is
Speaker 4: in front of the camera, as you see from shows
Speaker 4: like Unreal This.
Speaker 2: Will Be Infamous. Sometimes roses are red flags.
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