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Speaker 1: Fight Night, Let's Go. Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Thursday, The

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Speaker 1: Jason Sports Show with my bes friend Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 1: right in as we do every Monday and Thursday at

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Speaker 1: the Big NFL Action and so far it has been

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Speaker 1: all Chargers. They lead the Vikings right now. Twenty one

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Speaker 1: to three third quarter. Chargers have the football. It's been

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Speaker 1: a big first half for the Chargers run game. It's

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Speaker 1: been a big first half of the Chargers passing game,

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Speaker 1: which we'll get to in a minute. But uh, if

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Speaker 1: Chauncey Billups had the Chargers minus three and a half,

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Speaker 1: he's feeling good. Well maybe Chauncey Billups may have had

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Speaker 1: uh he may say, hey, wait a minute, that that

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Speaker 1: interception there would be that I don't know that that's interception.

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Speaker 1: I got the Chargers. That's not an interception. That's he

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Speaker 1: was able to call. That's not right there. Wow, man,

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Speaker 1: you know what, but that would be not all that

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Speaker 1: would be if they were gambling at cards, it's more

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Speaker 1: Terry Terry Rogier thing or Damon Jones. Yeah, okay, that's

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Speaker 1: more than Yeah, that's I mean, that's you know, that's

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Speaker 1: like you know, the Chauncey Billups like the end of

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Speaker 1: the first season, a sneaky pete, We're.

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Speaker 3: Gonna rig a big poker game. Guys are gonna make money.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the Really it was every TV show.

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Speaker 1: It was an amount of every show TV show and

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Speaker 3: It's amazing this gambling. What else we got?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean look just for a couple of quick

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Speaker 1: second before again to Monday night Thursday Night football. So

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Speaker 1: the NBA gambling scandal in which Chauncey Billups, Damon Jones,

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Speaker 1: Terry Rozier have been involved and they've been relieved of

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Speaker 1: their duties at least temporarily by their NBA teams. They've

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Speaker 1: been involved in a wide gambling sweep that the government

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Speaker 1: had been looking into for the past year and a half.

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Speaker 1: We kind of the Terry Rozier thing because that had

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Speaker 1: come up before about him ducking out of the game,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden lot a bunch of prop

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Speaker 1: bets on the under came up for him. But now

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Speaker 1: we have Damon Jones allegedly telling people, hey, Lebron James

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Speaker 1: is gonna sit out this game, you might want to

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Speaker 1: bet against us, and Chauncey Billups, who have been working

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Speaker 1: with some of the biggest crime families allegedly in the

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Speaker 1: un I mean they're big've been arrested.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, that it becomes the process.

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Speaker 1: I mean working with crime families to help rig poker

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Speaker 1: games at which they bring fish into to come in

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Speaker 1: and and lose money tables. Yeah, which is happening in

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Speaker 1: the card business to hunt for the big hits.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you put it in an X.

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Speaker 1: Ray machine, but you got that, you got the X

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Speaker 1: ray specs, you got the I mean the marking of cards.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you name it when this story came out,

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Speaker 1: because it's just so it's such a huge coincidence that

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm binging Sneaky Pete right now, right right

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Speaker 1: the first easson right.

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Speaker 3: Sneaky Pete is like the Hunger Game trilogy.

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Speaker 1: The first one is really good, the second one is

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Speaker 1: third one you're just waiting for it.

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Speaker 3: To end well quickly.

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Speaker 1: But I mean Giovanni Rabizi, but it's executive producer Brian Cranston, who.

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Speaker 3: Appears in the first season, who clearly.

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Speaker 1: Made this TV show for Aaron Paul, And for some reason,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Paul said, I don't want to I don't want

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Speaker 1: everybody's a con and it's set up for a big

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Speaker 1: the season. And I'm like, it's amazing. They're just doing

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Speaker 3: It buzzes you and it's astball. Yeah, basketball, they buzz

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Speaker 1: There is a guy with a trash can in the corner.

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Speaker 3: Who keeps hitting that trash can.

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Speaker 1: He keeps, you know, bumping into the trash can.

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Speaker 3: Right, It's how come every time I hear that trash

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Speaker 3: can you fold? What is that?

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Speaker 1: Come on, you got I think there's something goes dude.

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Speaker 1: The noise just rattles me and it takes me out

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Speaker 1: I have uh so again, Look and we got Todd Furman,

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Speaker 1: our Vegas insider, lined up to stop byle with us

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Speaker 1: in about fifteen minutes to break down the latest on

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Speaker 1: this again, a really a crazy story out of the

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Speaker 1: NBA with a big gambling scandal. Meanwhile, where we sit

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Speaker 1: right now, Thursday Night Football, it is a twenty four

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Speaker 1: to three lead now for the Chargers, Cameron Dicker making

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Speaker 1: the first half. But the Chargers now lead us in again.

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Speaker 1: It's been all la Justin Herbert's up over two hundred

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Speaker 1: yards and a couple of touchdowns. It's been a big

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Speaker 1: night so far for lad McConkie six eighty eight in

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Speaker 1: a score, Aronde Gadsden five seventy seven in the score, Cusha.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but that's the thing before we get to

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Speaker 1: the to my big hot take on this game. I

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Speaker 1: was a tight end, hybrid matchup nightmare at Syracuse, and

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Speaker 1: the end, and then he really shows all I could

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Speaker 1: be the next great pass catching tight end in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: He's clearly he's he's hit there so early because his

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Speaker 1: last couple of games have been tremendous. I saw this

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Speaker 1: is how old I am because I remember having his

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Speaker 1: and now his son is on one of my fantasy teams.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, but his dad, Yeah, his dad is

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Speaker 1: not even playing him in fantasy. This week he did

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Speaker 1: an interview where they asked him, hey, are you playing

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Speaker 1: an incredible week couple of weeks ago. And not wait,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna play him, No, he's riding the bend

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Speaker 1: or Kincaid, But like, how are you not playing Aronde?

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Speaker 1: Gadson after the last couple weeks of tight end is says,

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Speaker 1: such a dearth of production. That was a dirt of production.

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Speaker 1: Six teams on buys, including Laporta. Right, so you don't

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Speaker 1: even have him at your disposal this year and this week.

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Speaker 1: So I mean you just go all the way down

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Speaker 1: a lot of leagues that aren't even dedicating a full

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Speaker 1: back to the first possession for the Chargers after three

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Speaker 1: and out. They get the ball and there's an apparent

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Speaker 1: has been a huge boost. Defensively, you're seeing Oway alongside

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Speaker 1: Khalil Matck causing some problems. The one thing you do

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Speaker 1: with the NBA gambling probe, is such a big deal.

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Speaker 1: But the thing that to look at when you want

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Speaker 1: The chiefs are getting the calls. What I always find

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Speaker 1: And and I've gone from hey they want to get

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Speaker 1: it right to boy, they're really looking for a way

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Speaker 1: but you know it only took a you know, thirty

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Speaker 1: What like the lengths they go to to look at

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Speaker 1: when when we want to say officiating and teams getting

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Speaker 4: what's a torn ACL. And it's very similar in this

433
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Speaker 4: regard that we can pretend sports betting isn't going to

434
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Speaker 4: go on in any capacity if it wasn't legalized with

435
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Speaker 4: a repeal of pass. But but the reality of it

436
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Speaker 4: is it's taking place, and we just now have a

437
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Speaker 4: better vehicle to be able to monitor and regulate it.

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Speaker 3: Well, that was the thing all day, Todd.

439
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Speaker 1: The number of outlets that immediately began the well, they

440
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Speaker 1: need to dissociate from the gambling and wherever you know,

441
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Speaker 1: pick pick your your sports book, and they just need

442
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Speaker 1: to put all that money back and go go away.

443
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Speaker 1: It's like, to your point, like, no, that there are

444
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Speaker 1: processes in place. This has always existed now, it's just

445
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Speaker 1: we've got transparency at least to some degree exactly.

446
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Speaker 4: And that's the whole thing. I mean. I work for

447
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Speaker 4: a company that we had relationships with a lot of

448
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Speaker 4: the collegiate conferences. We provided a report on a regular

449
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Speaker 4: basis if there were a regularities that were picked up

450
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Speaker 4: in the betting market. Now, I know, player props are

451
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Speaker 4: a little bit different, and with the advent of the

452
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Speaker 4: single game parlay, all of these sports books need a

453
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Speaker 4: lot more offerings that the individual customers can tie into

454
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Speaker 4: their multipliers here. So you know, my issue with all

455
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Speaker 4: of this is, you know, do the sportsbook take some

456
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Speaker 4: responsibility quite frankly, yeah, in my opinion, they do. There's

457
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Speaker 4: no reason to be offering player props on guys that

458
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Speaker 4: are ninth, tenth or eleventh on NBA rosters. If you

459
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Speaker 4: want to offer them on the marquee players on a

460
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Speaker 4: Tuesday night in November, by all means, go ahead. But

461
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Speaker 4: as soon as you start to see anything that EMBO's

462
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Speaker 4: in a regular betting pattern, the alarm bell should go off,

463
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Speaker 4: especially if it's from accounts that are either no losers

464
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Speaker 4: or brand new accounts that are out there. So in

465
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Speaker 4: my opinion, there's got to be a communication breakdown on

466
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Speaker 4: some level, and not being privy to that information, I'm

467
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Speaker 4: very curious what comes out in the wash and how

468
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Speaker 4: all of this gets tied together.

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Speaker 1: So as as we looked at this today, there's always

470
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Speaker 1: the report, Okay, this is what happened today. Is there more?

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Speaker 1: Is something bigger coming? Do you think there's something bigger coming?

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Speaker 1: Or is this what we got now and then in

473
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Speaker 1: a year and a half we'll get another gambling sweep

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Speaker 1: somewhat like this.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a great question, and one if I'm

476
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Speaker 4: speculating here without any information, that this is just kind

477
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Speaker 4: of the tip of the proverbial iceberg, that there will

478
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Speaker 4: be more information that comes to light. Unfortunately, in my opinion,

479
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Speaker 4: there'll be other players, maybe other coaches around the league

480
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Speaker 4: to get swept up in this. But I think what's interesting,

481
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Speaker 4: even over the course of twelve hours in the news cycle,

482
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Speaker 4: you know, we thought these were two separate stories. Chauncey

483
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Speaker 4: billups involved in illicted poker games with their own set

484
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Speaker 4: of issues and Terry Roji stuff which had been in

485
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Speaker 4: guests investigated for the last year and a half. Then

486
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Speaker 4: we come to find out as the day goes on

487
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Speaker 4: that there was some connective tissue between these two things,

488
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Speaker 4: and it appears that Damon Jones, a member of the

489
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Speaker 4: coaching staff up there in Portland, was a little bit

490
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Speaker 4: of a problem. The report breaks about him sharing information

491
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Speaker 4: about Lebron James availability and now all of a sudden,

492
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Speaker 4: the lid is kind of blown off. So I think

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Speaker 4: we're going to continue to accumulate information and more and

494
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Speaker 4: more is going to come to light, and probably not

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Speaker 4: in a positive manner.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing when you go back into these

497
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Speaker 1: gambling things. Jason and I were, you know, talking about

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Speaker 1: it at the top of the show, Todd. You know,

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Speaker 1: it takes from every TV show and movie we've ever

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Speaker 1: had about illicit card games and cons, right, but we

501
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Speaker 1: know that people want access to athletes, and athletes want

502
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Speaker 1: everybody to fawn on them, which means you get to

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Speaker 1: the storytelling time and maybe that one piece of information,

504
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Speaker 1: whether knowingly or not, that you've now given someone the

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Speaker 1: edge and you've set things in motion, and so oh

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Speaker 1: so that's the question.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the events of today honestly harm. It feels like

508
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Speaker 4: we have blue chips meeting rounders creating a major motion picture.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the highlight that was circulating across social media

510
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Speaker 4: of Terry Rogier turning the ball over at the top

511
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Speaker 4: of the key looked like Tony And last time I checked,

512
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Speaker 4: when Tony got his a's and TV, you don't just

513
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Speaker 4: watch the tube in that class. You actually have to

514
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Speaker 4: focus on your academics. Meanwhile, for the poker games and

515
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Speaker 4: everything else that comes out around it, look high stakes

516
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Speaker 4: A type athletes are always going to be around these situations.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not sure if it becomes the facto guilt

518
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Speaker 4: by association that one of the poker clips that came

519
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Speaker 4: out from the Friends podcast that was out there, both

520
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Speaker 4: of the gentlemen that are professional poker players may or

521
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Speaker 4: may not have been at my wedding. So there is

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Speaker 4: a little bit of connective tissue to some of this

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Speaker 4: stuff that goes on.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So so if I'm reading this right, at your wedding,

526
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Speaker 1: you had a big backroom poker game, high stakes boomsman,

527
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Speaker 1: that is.

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Speaker 3: That is not what I said.

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Speaker 4: We didn't have X ray techno.

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Speaker 1: I've already tod I've already tweeted that out.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I can't. I can't change that.

532
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Speaker 4: But we didn't have any members of Geneviez through the

533
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Speaker 4: Chasy crime family in attendance, at least not to my knowledge.

534
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Speaker 4: But look, when you're around the gambling industry in any capacity,

535
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Speaker 4: whether it be sports or poker, there's always going to

536
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Speaker 4: be that proverbial ven diagram where sports is on one side,

537
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Speaker 4: poker's on the other, and there is still a very

538
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Speaker 4: large overlap between the two communities.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Six degrees of separation. Yeah, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I I remember when the Wildcats had their scandal all

541
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Speaker 1: those years ago for point shaving. Those were guys that

542
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Speaker 1: I ended up having gotten tickets from for years to.

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Speaker 4: Look that that's how it works. And as we know, Smith,

544
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Speaker 4: anytime there's a scandal, the first thing I'm going to

545
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Speaker 4: the Newswire to try and find is if the Harmon

546
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Speaker 4: brothers are associated to nefarious activity around the Lord.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know, well you know where the Harmon

548
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Speaker 3: brothers were last.

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Speaker 4: Week, right that I don't, But if they were sitting

550
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Speaker 4: behind the bench last night at the Rose Garden, we got.

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Speaker 3: The story, No, dude, you kidding?

552
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Speaker 1: They were in Paris at the Louver last week, both

553
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Speaker 1: of them.

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Speaker 4: Well then, you know, credit credit to you arm for

555
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 4: showing up to work and knowing that you have those

556
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Speaker 4: fancy French jewels working in your favor somewhere being fenced

557
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Speaker 4: on the black.

558
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Speaker 1: Market somewhere somehow. So, Hey, Todd, now that we get

559
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Speaker 1: and Vegas insider Todd Furman our guest here as we

560
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Speaker 1: break down the NBA gambling scandal. Obviously, the big name

561
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Speaker 1: involved in this is Lebron James, who's not been named

562
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Speaker 1: in this report. It was just Hey, Damon Jones, who

563
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Speaker 1: was who was was kind of with the Lakers when

564
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Speaker 1: Darvin Ham was there. Let it be known that, Hey,

565
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Speaker 1: allegedly Lebron's not playing tonight and money went down against

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. Do we need to hear anything from Lebron

567
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Speaker 1: on this, like does he need to like seeing this

568
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Speaker 1: and how you think this might unfold? Like do we

569
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Speaker 1: need some kind of statement or does he just not

570
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Speaker 1: say anything unless something happens which we need to hear

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Speaker 1: from himportant.

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Speaker 4: No, I think he should be as bad as buttoned

573
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Speaker 4: up as possible around this whole situation because the reality

574
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Speaker 4: of it is unless Lebron James knew when he told

575
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Speaker 4: Damon Jones he was or wasn't going to be available

576
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Speaker 4: for games when Jones wasn't on the coaching staff, knowing

577
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Speaker 4: where that information was going. In my opinion, Damon Jones

578
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,239
Speaker 4: is the weak link that broke the proverbial chain. If

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Speaker 4: Lebron's talking to a friend or colleague, hey, I'm not

580
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Speaker 4: going to be out there tonight, then I don't think

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Speaker 4: he did anything wrong. But what it does call into question,

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Speaker 4: and you know why people have a right to be

583
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Speaker 4: critical of what goes on is the NBA player availability report.

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Speaker 4: This is why that people scoff at those notions. Why

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Speaker 4: the NBA needs to do a better job and hold

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Speaker 4: their teams accountable. Why college coaches like Lane Kiffer, who

587
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Speaker 4: treated as a joke, create problems. You get the wrong

588
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Speaker 4: personalities poking around professional organizations or on a worst case level,

589
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Speaker 4: around college campuses doing these kinds of things to see

590
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Speaker 4: what players are going to be out there. The NFL

591
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 4: knew what they were getting themselves in for. There's a

592
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Speaker 4: reason the injury report is available on Wednesday, Thursdays and Fridays,

593
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Speaker 4: and they're about as transparent as any league in sports.

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Speaker 4: I think every league needs to begin to understand why

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Speaker 4: this information needs to be out there, and whether it's

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Speaker 4: a starting pitcher in Major League Baseball or an NHL

597
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 4: team being required to share their starting goalie information. The

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Speaker 4: more information that you put above board that's out there

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Speaker 4: for general public consumption, it alleviates some of the concerns

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Speaker 4: that are inevitably going on behind the scenes. And for

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Speaker 4: all these coaches who believe it's a little bit of

602
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Speaker 4: smoking merrors, you can create all the smoking mirrors you

603
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Speaker 4: want until it completely blows up in your face and

604
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Speaker 4: this becomes the end result.

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Speaker 1: He is Vegas insider extraordinary Todd Furman. Check him out

606
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Todd Furman, see him on CBS Sports

607
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: Line TSN Todd is always appreciated. Or see him around

608
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Speaker 1: a poker table in Vegas eating Oreo cookies.

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Speaker 3: You know he's bluffing. Todd. Thanks a bunch, buddy. We'll

610
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Speaker 3: talk to you next week.

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Speaker 4: I actually prefer hydrox when I'm sitting at the table.

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Speaker 1: Are nicely, Don Thanks for stopping down, buddy.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you. Great stuff there from Todd Furman.

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Speaker 1: But like all of it, right I joked with you earlier.

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Speaker 1: I was like, do you wish Adam Silver is sitting

616
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Speaker 1: here on I'd really like to talk about the no

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Speaker 1: show jobs some more.

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Speaker 3: Can we go back to that sea?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I remember that one. That one was great. We can

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Speaker 3: talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, but that will actually go plant some trees?

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Speaker 1: Will that make it better? I mean, because this, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's so unwieldy, and it takes you in a million spots,

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00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: and the injury report is definitely where we're at. Right

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Speaker 1: he references college football. We've had a couple of instances

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Speaker 1: of player availability and we're talking slap on the wrist fines. Right,

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Speaker 1: there's no if that's all you're gonna do. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you get penalized more for your idiot students running onto

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Speaker 1: the field than you do for falsifying player availability data.

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Speaker 1: And there's the latest in the long list of grievances

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Speaker 1: I have with the way things get adjudicated and processed

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Speaker 1: in our collegiate slash professional and professional sports. Twitter at

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Speaker 1: how about a fresco Mike gets swollen down the Jason

635
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Speaker 1: Smith Show with my best friend Mike harmon Time Now

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Speaker 1: to find out what's trending in the wide world of

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Speaker 1: sports from some well, I'm just gonna say it, she

638
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Speaker 1: bought pizza for everyone tonight to hopefully celebrate a Chargers

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Speaker 1: win or drown our sorrows and a loss. Right now,

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Speaker 1: things are looking okay for the Chargers and Monte Belanga.

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Speaker 2: That is true.

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Speaker 6: That's why I bought the pizza. We'll get to the

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Speaker 6: NFL in just a second. As Week eight has kicked

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Speaker 6: off from Sofi Stadium because we got a game going

645
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Speaker 6: down to the wire in Indiana between the Pacers and

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Speaker 6: the Thunder with about forty seconds to go. It's a

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Speaker 6: tie game. They're tied out one twenty two. Aaron Ne

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Speaker 6: Smith has already fouled out for Indiana. Pascal Siakam hit

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Speaker 6: the shot to force ot. He's got thirty points. Benedict

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Speaker 6: Mathrin has thirty four points. The leading scorer of the

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Speaker 6: game is shay Gil just Alexander who's got forty four points.

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Speaker 6: And I think the Indiana Pacers just turned the ball.

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Speaker 1: I think Mafin was dribbling in for a slam and

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Speaker 1: he lost the still like he's dribbling down the I'm like,

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Speaker 1: oh wow, he's gonna get a dunk, and he just

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Speaker 1: lost to that st I thought it was like the

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Speaker 1: contest he gets it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was not great. I can hear the guy

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Speaker 6: in the editing room yelling about it. But yeah, he

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Speaker 6: just kind of lost it. So now there's thirty seconds

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Speaker 6: to go, and okay, see we'll have the ball again.

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Speaker 3: They are in Indiana.

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Speaker 6: There's another game going on, and it's Denver and Golden

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Speaker 6: State and the Nuggets are up right now, twenty seven

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Speaker 6: to eighteen, late in the first quarter of that one.

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Speaker 6: All right to the NFL where it has been luckily

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Speaker 6: all Chargers so far in this one. But Carson Wentz

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Speaker 6: did throw his first touchdown pass to Jordan Addison.

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Speaker 3: I know you said, Luis the Charger loveily is it?

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Speaker 3: So we eat some positivity. Okay, it's the Chargers.

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Speaker 6: We have. We have season tickets to the Chargers. But

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Speaker 6: obviously I work, and so my sister in law is

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Speaker 6: a Vikings fan. So my brother and sister in law

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Speaker 6: are currently at the game.

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Speaker 1: My brother's not.

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Speaker 6: A huge NFL guy, and he's like, man, are the

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Speaker 6: Chargers this much better than the Vikings? He sent in

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Speaker 6: a text and I said, listen, it's it's a quarterback thing.

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Speaker 3: Whatever.

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Speaker 6: But the Chargers are very much like the Clippers. So

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Speaker 6: the game is not over. The game is not over.

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Speaker 3: And then they literally scored a touchdown.

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Speaker 6: So here we are plenty of game left. They just

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Speaker 6: got going in the fourth quarter. But the Chargers are

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Speaker 6: in the red zone knocking on the door to score

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Speaker 6: twenty four to ten. Justin Herbert has known for two

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Speaker 6: hundred and twenty one yards two touchdowns. He also has

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Speaker 6: one interception.

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Speaker 3: Other Edi House, what McCay do with.

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Speaker 6: He's got six catches yards and a touchdown?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: When it comes to other NFL news, Ravens quarterback Lamar

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Speaker 6: Jackson limited in practice for a second straight day because

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Speaker 6: of his hamstring strain, but Buccaneers quarterback Baker Mayfield he

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Speaker 6: was upgraded to a full participate in practice today. A

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Speaker 6: couple of NHL scores. Kings over the Stars right now

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00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 6: two to one late in the second period, Hurricanes doubling

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Speaker 6: up on the Avalanche for two also late in the

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Speaker 6: second period, and Oilers are edging the Canadians three to

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Speaker 6: two with two minutes to go in the second period.

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Speaker 3: Back to you guys, thank you very much. Monster.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's very nice of you allowing your Chargers tickets

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Speaker 1: to go to Vikings fans.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's my sister Lass.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's better than to give it to somebody

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Oh hey, can I get those tickets? I would say,

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah, you go.

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Speaker 6: To say like I could have, but it was like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: of course, you know, and uh, my parents are.

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Speaker 1: Watching the babies, because you know what you could have

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Speaker 1: said was when they said, hey, since you're working out

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Speaker 1: the tickets, yeah, go blank yourself.

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Speaker 3: No, you're not going to go root for the Vikings

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Speaker 3: with my tickets.

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Speaker 6: Not happening, right, yeah, I you know they have it

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Speaker 6: rough right now as Vikings fans.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 6: It's a rough time because Carson wentzaying doing anything No, no.

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Speaker 3: J McCarthy ain't doing anything. No, no, no. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: Monty doesn't know who fran tarkent Is doesn't know, but

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Speaker 3: I know who everybody is.

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Speaker 1: Ronde Gadston, what about Gaston? No, no, no, I I I

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Speaker 1: educated Moncey way too much on the previous history of

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Speaker 1: Ronde Gadsten before he got to the NFL. Yes, well,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you when he came to Syracuse as

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Speaker 1: a freshman.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I learned all about it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Monty was like, yeah, no, Syracuse. You know, I'm watching

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Speaker 1: Moncey's eyes gloss over and I go, this is like

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Speaker 1: I feel sometimes like when I was younger, I was

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Speaker 1: on a date and I'm saying something.

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Speaker 3: I go, she really doesn't care about that. I gotta

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Speaker 3: change that, memet change. I care lots. I care lots.

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Speaker 6: Have a lot of things going on, like piecers and

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Speaker 6: thunder going at second.

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Speaker 1: Overtime, just when the light goes out on your date

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Speaker 1: and she's like, yeah, this is not the guy. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm just down, just stuck here until the date's over. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's Dad's den.

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Speaker 3: But you don't want to hear more about the Mets.

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Speaker 3: Come on, you don't want to talk about the Mets? Hi,

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Speaker 3: thank you many, my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, we got the play of the day

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Speaker 1: coming your way, and how about a hot take for

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Speaker 1: Game one of the World Series After big news today,

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Speaker 1: that's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio and TJ.

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Speaker 1: Clearly, the Minnesota Vikings offense needs a yellow card the

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Speaker 1: way they're playing.

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Speaker 3: Tonight, DJ.

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Speaker 1: Time out for the play of the Day here on

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon and the play

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Speaker 1: Should be well, much to the chagrin of Monci Bolagos, who,

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Speaker 1: even though the Chargers are winning by twenty one points,

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Speaker 1: has found a way a few minutes ago in the

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Speaker 1: in the hallway to yell blank led McConkey blank, ronde, gads,

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Speaker 1: did I got a big fat zero targets for Quentin

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Speaker 1: Johnson in fantasy Big fat zero blank everybody, This is Muncie. Listen,

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Speaker 1: he's right around the hallway. Second, I won't eat it all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, not happy enough.

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Speaker 1: The team is winning by twenty one but big thought

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00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: zero targets for Quentin Johnston. And then you and I

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00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: are watching Carson Wentz airmail and other ball that gets

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Speaker 1: picked up.

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00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, that's now they're gonna run the ball.

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Speaker 3: That's that's not good.

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Speaker 1: So with that in mind, From Monzie, who bought pizza

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Speaker 1: for all of us tonight. Lad McConkie's touchdown, here's our

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00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: play of the day. Second and tent Herbert to throw

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00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: takes a shot to the end zone from Acaky call

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Speaker 1: touchsdown Chargers twenty seven yards. Ladd mccauckey, Chargers Radio Network

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Speaker 1: on the call, Matt money Smith on the call, produced

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Speaker 1: by Justin Frostburgh. Lad McConkie having a big night boy,

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Speaker 1: Rodney Gatson having a bag. Who's who's not having a

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Speaker 1: big night for the Oh? Sorry, what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm just saying it's a big night. Excited

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Speaker 1: for the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: She moves swift. You won't to hear her coming.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. No, that is true. Moncey is like an astronaut.

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Speaker 1: You can sometimes you get stumping down the hallway pretty fast, man,

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Speaker 1: like like one step and suddenly it's like, wow, that's

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Speaker 1: really She's like one of the stealth cars when it

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Speaker 1: starts behind you.

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Speaker 3: Oh I didn't hear that car start. No, that's it.

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Speaker 1: I mean these new fangled cars you don't hear the

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Speaker 1: engine reb you No, no, no.

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Speaker 3: A big fat zero, A big fat zero.

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Speaker 6: You guys, just Cardio out there. You know what.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people playing soccer zero run big fat

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Speaker 3: zero even in the box score. It's like he doesn't exist. Yeah. Oh,

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Speaker 3: if your name's not.

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Speaker 2: In the box score, it's not even in the box.

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Speaker 3: You need at least a target. Did you do you

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Speaker 3: even lift?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 6: Do you even lift?

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Speaker 1: Bro? Does your jury to be washed after the game

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Speaker 1: tonight or can you just hang it back up? Because

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Speaker 1: really you didn't do anything.

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Speaker 6: I didn't do it.

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Speaker 3: No, but I'm wearing justin Herbert. He did a lot. No,

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Speaker 3: you're good.

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Speaker 1: Ever since they overturned that interception, Boy, what a different games.

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Speaker 1: We'll have more football coming up in a few minutes,

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00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: but big news in advance of Game one of the

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Speaker 1: World Series tomorrow night. Look Alex Vessian not with the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: One of their relievers dealing with a personal issue, and

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00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: we know more on that will let you know. But

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Speaker 1: the Blue Jays have named Trey Savage to start Game

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Speaker 1: one of the series. Now, he's a rookie pitcher who

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Speaker 1: has had a pretty good playoff. Didn't really pitch a

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Speaker 1: lot during the regular season because he came.

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Speaker 3: Up late, but.

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Speaker 1: He was in Duneaton, down the road from my folk.

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00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 1: Just is like the Mets at the end of the year, Hey,

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Speaker 1: can you throw? Have you pitched the major leagues at all?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Then you can come pitch for us, because every other

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00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: guy we have stinks. Now, he has pitched pretty well

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Speaker 1: so far in the playoffs. But I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 1: this Big Bowl prediction for Game one. As I've said,

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers lefties are gonna feast on the Blue Jays pitching,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure they will stagger the lefties in the lineup,

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Speaker 1: probably go something like Otani freemanle hit third, Monthsy fifth,

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Speaker 1: something like that. I expect the Dodgers to knock the

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Speaker 1: crap out of him in the first two innings of

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Speaker 1: this game. It's a great Rogers Center is a great

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Speaker 1: hitters ballpark. It's a hitter's paradise. And the Dodgers know

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00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: they got to get on this early because you want

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00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: to quiet that crowd and not keep all that insane

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00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: momentum and energy in the ballpark. You want to take

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00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: care of that early as you can. They know we

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00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: want to hit We're going to hit early first two

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Speaker 1: winnings tomorrow. The Dodgers put up crooked numbers and it's

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Speaker 1: a big first two winnings for them. Curious to see,

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00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: you know what is out totals are and all those

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00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: fun things. Trying to navigate because we don't have a

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Speaker 1: lot of data. Right, that's the fun of this game

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00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: on a whole other level, Like we get to the playoffs,

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00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: we get through these early rounds all the way to

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00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: the World Series, and there is just a giant question

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00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: mark on that mound as to how he's going to respond.

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00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 3: Right.

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00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: We've seen, you know, guys that are long in the

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00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: tooth and their trials in postseason play trying to overcome them. Him,

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00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: he is just a blank slate, right, you know, playing

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00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: with house money for lack of a better term. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know how much I hate that term to actually

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Speaker 1: use it. First two innings watch the Dodgers offense cook

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Speaker 1: coming up next. Speaking of cooking, we cook on the

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Speaker 1: biggest story of the day in Sports, Jason and Mike

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Speaker 1: Fox