WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Most Impactful Rookie? 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:08.200 This is Talking Cowboys Screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:19.240 Com and the official Dallas Cowboys as Texas Bloys. Mickey Spagnola, 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:25.560 Brian Broadens, Taylor Stern, and Rob Phillips welcome everybody into 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:29.720 the SWBC Mortgage Studio as we get ready for another 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:34.400 Talking Cowboys edition, always joined by Nicky, Rob Brian right 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:36.879 here in Dallas, Texas. I don't know if you can 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:39.320 call it Dallas because we're technically in Frisco, but we're 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.519 in North Texas, North Texas, and not only is it 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:44.920 the home of the Dallas Cowboys, it's going to be 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.640 the home of the twenty eighteen NFL Draft, because you 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:51.960 can't have a casual Wednesday around here these days. Not 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.360 only are the Dallas Cowboys preparing for the forty nine ers, 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:59.840 which we'll get into, Azukiel Elliott available for this week 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:04.000 after the tro was granted yesterday, so we'll get all 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:07.080 into that. But we got to talk about the NFL 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:10.520 Draft coming down here, and a lot of people think 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:13.080 it has to do with the original eighty eight having 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.880 such a great performance in Philadelphia and making it more 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.600 of a stadium event now than just a theater. So 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:23.520 What do you guys think of this breaking news? I 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.679 thought it was expected. I thought all along they were 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:28.520 going to get the draft this year. I think they 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:30.319 thought all along they were going to get the draft. 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:32.240 I know a lot of people thought, oh, it's going 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.680 back to Philadelphia, But I kind of like the NFL's 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:39.240 idea of moving it around and not get stuck in 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.280 the same place. You got to bring your game to 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.720 different parts of the country. You know, it's been on 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:46.480 the East coast forever. It went to the Midwest, and 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:51.400 I don't know what you considered Texas, south, Southwest, southwest, whatever, 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.360 and then I bet next year it goes to La somewhere. Yeah, 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.800 So I think that's good. It gives everybody in the 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.200 country an opportunity to do this, and you know, it'll 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.240 be interested to see how they set it up at 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:07.080 at and T Stadium. You know, they keep talking about 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.440 they had two hundred and twenty thousand people in Philadelphia 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.240 because it was outdoors on the streets. Sure, same thing 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.280 in Chicago. Now if you have it at at and 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.480 T Stadium, it's kind of in a confined space. So 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:21.080 I don't know if you could put two hundred thousand 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:24.000 people there but you certainly can put one hundred thousand 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:27.280 in the stadium to keep an eye on it. Absolutely 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:28.919 bring up a good point, Mickey, how they're going to 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.560 set it up? We In our press release we received today, 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.760 it says the draft site will encompass the field, the stands, 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:39.560 outdoor plazas, and creating an all encompassing atmosphere and enabling 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:44.600 more fans than ever before to watch their favorite team selection. Guys. 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.880 You guys have seen super Bowls hosted here. Final Four's 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:52.600 major sporting events, most recently the College Football Playoff national Championship. 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.359 They do it big here in Texas. Yeah, they will. 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.760 And you know that's the great thing that's you know, 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.959 the mini is the draft has becomes huge, and it's 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:05.200 it's the it's the three nights of all hope. You know, 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.480 you hope that your team can get better. And so 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:11.359 no better venue than to give hope than to come 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.280 to a T and T and see if your team, 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:17.239 in fact, can can put three quality days together and 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:22.120 maybe make your fortunes better or you know, in some cases, 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.040 some teams that have success drafting make them even better. 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.000 So I'm excited about it, I really really am. I 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.200 love the draft. I'm one of these guys that said 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:31.799 this would be a great job if we didn't have 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.480 to play games. I'd love this if it would just 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.360 we could just draft all the time. That would be 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:40.120 my favorite thing. Just evaluate players and work on the draft. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.000 That's what I would absolutely love to do. We got 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:45.320 a draft show plan now, well, actually Derek and I 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.520 were talking about it. Yeah, we were talking about it 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:49.040 what we were going to do. And we're actually gonna 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:53.280 stick here in the SWBC Morgage studios, So yeah, we're 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:57.040 access to the players is the coaches. You know, I 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.240 don't think we could replicate what we did last year 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:00.720 if we were at A and T. I love the 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:02.920 venue there and all that, but the fact that we 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:04.960 had Joe Baker in here when we were talking about 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:08.120 picking players and he was gone on and you know, 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:10.120 that's nice to have that all over there. But you 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.520 could have some calling guests who are over there. Definitely, 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:15.360 you got to have people in the studio. That's what 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.600 makes it cool. Yeah, and the action still you know, 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.000 the war room is here. Yeah, so you're still right 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.040 down the hall from yeah, you know where Jerry and 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:24.640 I feel like I'm in the middle of it. Here. Yeah, 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:26.920 but I want you tay. I think I think Drew 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.560 Pearson needs to be like the co master of ceremonies 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:32.640 along with Roger Gidell. What I mean, that was the 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.400 greatest rant I've ever heard my life at the draft last. 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.039 Do you guys remember two weeks ago when we were 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:39.200 talking about what Drew Pearson said about the draft and 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.080 how he said it was so neat that they've been 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.360 bringing back these legendary players to talk about it. Now 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:46.120 we might be able to put a camera in that 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.960 green room and really see what's going on back there. 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:50.840 They might not like that, but maybe we'll play in 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.880 something you could host it. So do you think they'll 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.160 You know, the previous places where they actually had the 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.760 draft was in a confined a are you right? And 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.800 then you had all the people outside, right, They've got 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:07.720 an opportunity to have one hundred thousand people watch indoors 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.520 what's going on they do on the field, where the 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:14.279 team's representatives are and where the stage is right right. 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.560 I don't know if that's what's going to happen, but 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.680 that's definitely what seemed to be the attraction that now 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.440 you're just not watching it on a big screen out 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.599 in Grant Park in Chicago, well, or in the street 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.800 at the Museum in Philadelphia. You're actually in the room 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.880 where they're drafting. Yeah. Yeah, you can open those doors too. 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.880 You can open that. You can open the roof, be open, 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:37.960 you open the roof, you open the stadium. You can 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:39.840 do everything you want. Yeah, and you can. You can 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.160 make access from that, you know, from I guess from 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.680 your middle of light area in through the stadium and 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:48.240 the concourse and the stands and stuff. And you put 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.880 the third put the thirty two teams on the floor right, 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.240 that's when I'm and line them all up. Have your 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.880 stage there, have your walk in, have everything you need 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.800 right there. Yeah. I'm sure there'll be a lot of 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.240 things built in add it in, but it is. It's 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.799 a great venue to host something like this potentially, because 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.160 like you say, you can open it. You know, it's 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.320 unique to a stadium. You can open it wide open 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.880 to have the fans the access in and out of 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:13.800 what you want to do. They'll now be hosting a 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.440 fashion show there now too, because the players don't just 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.120 wear regular suits when they're going to the draft. No, 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.120 it's all about the fashion statements to be made, so 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:25.719 it's gonna be a spectacle. I can't wait to see. 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.280 It's the perfect venue for this, because we talked about 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:29.840 it right before we went on the air. The Draft 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:31.680 is bigger than ever. It used to be a little 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.120 two day deal. You knock it out over the weekend. 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.920 It's basically, you know, teams huddling together and there's limited 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:41.440 fan access now use for phillyback in the back in 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:45.880 the day, eagle Man. But yeah, this is a national spectacle. 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.080 Three days. Oh yeah, it's the Three Days of Hope 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.080 is what it is. So moving around is perfect. But 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:52.920 I would just keep it here every year. I don't 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.320 think you can capture the spectacle, like you said, Tay 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.080 better than this. And if you think about it, when 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.160 they when they, I mean they had the thing in 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.920 New York would let people in Radio City Music Hall, 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.120 but it was only a few people that could go up. 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:07.840 A thousand people in the up and that was it. 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.640 Now you could have one hundred thousand people actually watching 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:12.640 it and you have the big screen up there. Took 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.720 you sdatron, Yeah, yeah, you have the screen up there. 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:17.920 You know what, as much as I love the Draft 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:19.480 being here, you know what, one place I'd like to 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:26.600 see it in Canada. No, okay, closet though, Canton, Ohio. Yeah, 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:28.920 I'd love to see the drafting. Can'ton Ohio. Yeah, Like 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.440 the future of the football starts here. Yeah, I mean 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.680 I think I read where there was some thought, Oh yeah, 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:35.679 I like, what are we coming up on one hundred 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.000 years the anniversary the yeah, the hundred years of the 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.080 end of the next year or the year, next raft, 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:42.840 next season, next season. Yeah, they're they're pouring money into 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:46.320 a renovation of that, right, I bet when finish it. Yeah, yeah, 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.560 so maybe down the road. It's a great idea. I 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.440 love the venue here. I think it's I think it's 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.600 a wonderful setting. And I'm not just saying that because 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:55.880 I'm from Dallas and I love the draft, and I 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.920 think that everybody. You know, it's a centrally located thing too. 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.920 If you're from east coast, West coast, Dallas being a 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.960 centrally located city, you can fly from the West coast, 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:06.680 you can fly from up north. You can come and 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.600 see your team draft, And I think that experience itself 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.400 is cool. But I'm looking forward to the day that 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.080 the NFL has the draft and can't Ohio. Now I 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.600 really am. That's a great point. And in a day's 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:22.760 drive you can drive here. Absolutely, Atlanta, it's great, great 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:28.240 venue here, great venue. Well, Lewis doesn't count anymore, does it. 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.360 You're talking about drives. The infamous shot that everyone usually 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.200 sees from the Cowboys over draft weekend is the first 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:38.000 round pick player getting off of the Cowboys bus. Now 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:40.760 will it be this night this year? Because he'll just 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.240 be down the road. Maybe he'll be flying in on 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:46.200 the helicopter. Yeah, there you go. That's how Jerry drafted 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.080 back and forth. Well, help us out exactly. Should get 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.240 that interview right away, say our press conference at night 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:56.160 might not just be coach Garrett, Stephen Jones and Jerry Jones. 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.439 It might include the first round draft pick immediately and 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.319 to say, hey, you know, this season, we don't know 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.599 how it's gonna go or how it's gonna end. So 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.840 many unknown lyne here, but I think it will make 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.960 a difference in the excitement around Dallas if their pick 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.360 is high or low. So as far as would draft. 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:16.360 If you think they'll have to strap Jerry into the 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:18.120 seat in the war rooms and so you have to 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.400 stay here so he doesn't go out to the stadium 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.040 and be the Grand Marshal. Maybe move the war room 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:26.920 to the stadium, a beautiful war room. I know they do, 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.559 but you gotta put Jerry in the middle of it. Yeah, 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.440 Derek and I were talking about this. This is business. Yeah, 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.800 I know it. Derek and I were talking about this. 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:36.679 I mean, and like he's saying, what do you think? 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.559 And I'm like, hey, you know, I think we have 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:40.640 a beautiful studio. We had a good draft here with 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:42.760 it the coverage and all we have the partners with 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:44.719 one oh five three. I know Mickey's part of that 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.080 as well. So yeah, I'm sure there'll be a lot 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.600 of bells and whistles, but we're gonna stay with what's 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:51.640 tried and true and kind of hanging there and do 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.839 what we need to do well. Two years ago, the 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:56.760 Cowboys did have a high draft pick and they drafted 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:01.280 Ezekie Elliott number four overall. Yeah, and he had an 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:05.040 amazing rookie season. And now we're here where we're here, 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.760 and everyone knows where we're here. But let's get into 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:13.000 the legality of everything. Yesterday, the Southern Region Court of 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:16.800 New York District, Southern District of New York Court ruled 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:20.000 in favor of A zig Elliott for his temporary restraining 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.920 order to make him eligible for at least for the 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:27.319 next two weeks, requesting in October thirtieth hearing to further 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:31.040 advance this process. So guys, get into it. He was 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.280 not allowed to be here yesterday at the Star in 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.760 Frisco due to this suspension still being upheld. But now 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:41.960 today he will be Is you saw him at practice? Yes, 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.040 he is there. He's there there, so shaking everybody's hands. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.160 So let's get into it, Rob lawyer man, what is this? 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:54.720 Lawyer man? Yeah, so it sounds like October thirtieth. That's 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.840 how long this thing lasts, this tro o and there 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.959 will be another hearing. The udge who would rule on this, 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:07.800 her name is Judge Catherine Poke Faila. She's on vacation 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.920 right now. So what this other judge did Essentially, Okay, 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.760 go ahead, grant the TIRO that buys some time until 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.840 she's back, have another hearing because the NFLPA is also 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.640 a petitioned for another injunction that would be a longer 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.319 term stay of the suspension and keep Zeke on the 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:28.040 field again for the foreseeable future. So what we know 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.880 for sure is that he can play practice and play 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:34.480 this week against forty nine Ers October thirtieth, I believe 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:38.280 is the next game against Washington, So that that's a 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.360 little unclear. It's got a chance, he got a chance. 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.040 We know this week he'll be on the field. After that, 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.240 we're not sure. But I thought Daniel Wallack, who's been 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.079 on top of this, you know, from the very beginning, 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.760 a sports and gaming attorney who's been on Twitter, very 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.000 active on Twitter. He was on Cowboys Break this morning, 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:55.160 and I thought it was interesting what he said. It's 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.719 good information that even if this deadline passes and the 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:03.120 tr expires, all the pasadute is file for an extension 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.920 of it. If this judge is still on vacation, So 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.360 this thing could last, you know, at least a couple 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.520 of weeks, and then and then if he gets an injunction, 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:13.720 who knows how long he's able to play. I mean, 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.360 you know, we talked about the show yesterday. We don't 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.040 really know. This might be the end for him. He 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.120 might have to take the suspension. Now it looks like 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.280 possibly he might continue to play a lot more games. 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:28.000 We'll see. Well, I think it raises the significant possibility 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.360 that at some point this thing's going to go to 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:35.679 court to hear the lawsuit to challenge the validity of 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.680 the arbitration. And this was just the next step. I thought, 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:47.480 what Wallack said yesterday talking about judge failure, she is 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:53.319 not likely disagree with Paul Crotty because he's the senior 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:58.240 judge on that in that district. Yes, so he's saying, yeah, 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:02.840 she's probably gonna say, okay, go ahead. Uh. I thought 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:07.360 to try to simplify this as best I can. Okay, 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:11.439 there were two key points I thought in the whole thing. 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:17.679 The first one was the NFL's arguing that the league 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:22.120 can suffer irreparable harm if the if the suspension doesn't 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:29.240 start immediately. Yeah, the NFL saying no, you're not going 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:34.800 to hurt anything, and Asia Player Association Yeah. And so 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:42.280 what it came down to, uh, he Karate basically wrote 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:48.359 this U. He said, the NFL can impose the suspension 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:52.120 over Elliott at a later time if the defendant's counterclaim 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.760 for vacator is denied, meaning you can't go to trial, 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.640 then you can start the suspension. In contrast, without a 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:03.199 t ro, mister Elliott stands to suffer significant harm to 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:07.959 his career and reputation that can't be monetarily compensated, should 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:12.040 defend it when the counter claim for vacator on balance, 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:17.640 the defendants harpship substantially outweighs the plaintiffs. So basically what 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:25.520 he's saying is Zeke, Zeke can suffer irreparable harm if 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.280 he doesn't have a tro to see if they're going 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:33.280 to allow this lawsuit, the league is not gonna suffer anything. 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:37.000 And the judge points out in the Brady case that 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:40.600 basically he went through the whole season and it was 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.760 no hardship to the NFL because they can still suspend 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:48.200 him the next year as they did, right. So basically 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:51.040 that was the point that the NFL is trying to 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.360 act like they're going to be harmed if he's not 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.400 immediately suspended. Well, and they know better. And I told him, 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.440 I said earlier, Brian. Sorry, the PA turned this back 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.200 on them recently and said, well, hey, you let him 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.440 play Week one even with this hanging over his head, 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:09.040 then you didn't suffer repartable harm then, right, So exactly 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.480 that's been a PA argument at that and and Brady. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:20.080 So the other point was the inherent fairness in the arbitration. 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:23.880 This is and this is the point. And the NFL saying, well, 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.200 you know, we established this in the Brady case, that 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:31.400 you can't argue an arbitration and this guy said, oh 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:37.600 hold on there, yes, not so fast. And his deal 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:41.680 was when when they brought that up, find my right paper, 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:44.520 Well I got it because this is what he wrote 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:50.480 when they basically said, Brady basically says you cannot do this. 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:54.720 That's what the court said, and he wrote that is wrong. 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:58.280 Brady two acknowledged the Second Circuit has never held that 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:03.440 the requirement of fundamental fairness f fundamental fairness applies to 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:08.320 arbitration awards under the Labor Relations Act. Brady two, however, 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:12.400 did not hold that court cannot review arbital decisions for 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:17.360 fundamental fairness. Brady two did not decide that issue. We 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:22.440 need not decide whether the free floating procedural fairness standard 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:27.200 of the Labor Relation Act ought to be imported to 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:31.600 review all arbitration conducts. So basically, what they're saying, just 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.880 because it was okay for the Brady case doesn't mean 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.840 that's the precedent that every arbitration case has to face. 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.960 Because we can't do anything. And so basically they're saying, 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.840 there's three judges now that have said when I look 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:51.880 at the arbitration, fundamental fairness did not occur. Yeah, and mers, 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.160 Graves and Krate all decided, and that's where this is. 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.840 I think it's gonna be in favor of Zeke. This 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.880 is all about fundamental fairness, and if Zeke wins this case, 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.639 this is going to be the the the standard in 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.160 which other domestic violence cases are looked at by the league. 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.360 This is important. This is more than important about being 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:16.360 six games suspension and Ezekiel Eliott. The league is fighting 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.840 this right now because if they in fact lose this case, 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:24.120 Ezekiel Eliott's case will be that standard I talked about, 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:26.600 and there will also be some revision of what the 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.560 Brady case was in that way, and you know, and 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.800 that's that's now important to the league. It's it's not 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:36.840 about Ezekiel Eliott anymore. It's about He's about going forward. 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.159 It's about going forward. This is not going to be 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.560 the last case. Well, no, because you know I brought 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.920 it up yesterday, the Jarvis Landry case. Someone had brought 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.199 it up to my attention that it sounded very similar 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.439 to the Ezekiel Elliott one. So I did some research 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.440 on it and I do want to look just to 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.960 be clear. But Jarvis Landry him himself that it was 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.840 bad grammar. But you know, I'm so confused right now, 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:02.159 he was under investigator for domestic violence after he was 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:08.000 accusative pushing his girlfriend, and he was found innocent in 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.840 the courts. Right, He's still under investigation for the NFL 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.240 by the league, right by the league. So you're right. 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.560 It didn't go to court though, did it. No, it 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:20.639 just got what innocent? They just didn't get tried, right 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:24.080 All I'm saying, I'm sorry for the bad technicality. I'm 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:28.720 just saying that he's not being prosecuted. Yes, So the 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:30.680 fact of the matter is brand You're right, this is 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.840 going to affect his case. This is going to affect 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:34.840 so many others man. Yeah, this is this is this 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.240 is why the league is fighting because again you've got 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.040 three judges that have lined up and the fourth judge 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.600 she's got a shot to really put this thing to bed. 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.199 And if she does that, then again the league now 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.320 is in trouble because they have president now of a 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:55.720 case and every domestic violence case can go forward because 0:18:55.760 --> 0:19:01.399 of fundamental fairness. Was zeke was Ezekiel allowed out fundamental 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.320 fairness or is he allowed of fair fairness in hearing 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.680 his case? You know. And now it's about the accusers, 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:11.000 you know, having to make the accusers as witnesses, bringing 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:14.200 them forward and all that. That could send a whole 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:16.840 lot of other other problems that you might not get 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.240 people to step forward and want to go through all that. 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.920 So this is this is a very very important case. Again, 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:26.760 I think it's bigger than the six Games it was. 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:29.399 We're we focused on that for the future. It's for 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.439 the future of what they want to do as far 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:37.040 as proceed going forward. If other cases like this become 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.320 a part of the of what we've seen with the 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.320 you know, with and what Walla tweeted out this morning 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:47.240 was basically that, yeah, that what's at at stake here 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:54.720 is ongoing domestic violence. Yes, because the NFL does not 0:19:55.160 --> 0:20:00.600 have the jurisdiction uh to subpoena the accus us, right, 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.200 and if the judges are saying you, well, you should 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:08.760 have to fight, then they've got a problem. And guess 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:13.600 what to me? If that occurs, then basically the courts 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:17.960 are saying, hey, NFL, stay in your lane. You're trying 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:24.480 to do something you don't shab purisdictional ability to adjudicate. Absolutely, 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:27.880 you're trying to do more than what the court system's doing. 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:30.280 That's right now. You can figure out if the ball's 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:33.040 deflated right and enough air in that ball, or this 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.640 guy has been suspended or kicked out of the game 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:40.720 for illegal hits, you can have arbitration on that. But 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:44.680 what you're trying to arbitrate now is basically a legal thing, 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:47.960 and you don't have the ability to be able to 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:51.880 do it. Right there you go, So to me, that's 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.720 what's at stake right now. Absolutely, because you can't keep 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.400 doing this. They should have never got into the business 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:02.000 of trying to do what the courts judge and jury. Yes, 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.080 you can't do that. They don't have the they don't 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:06.879 have the power, and they don't have the ability and 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:11.440 the investigative people that people in the legal system have 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.440 to look at these cases. Take a deep breath. We're 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.880 going to get through this well. Dicky's two minute, Mickey's 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.160 two minute. Well, let's stay absolutely run a minute, quick 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:22.480 little break here in the STWBC mortgage studio. We'll be 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:24.760 right back. We'll get more into Ezekie Elliott and we've 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:26.920 got to get into the forty nine or so. 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