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Speaker 1: This is Talking Cowboys Screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot

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Speaker 1: Com and the official Dallas Cowboys as Texas Bloys. Mickey Spagnola,

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Speaker 1: Brian Broadens, Taylor Stern, and Rob Phillips welcome everybody into

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Speaker 1: the SWBC Mortgage Studio as we get ready for another

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys edition, always joined by Nicky, Rob Brian right

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Speaker 1: here in Dallas, Texas. I don't know if you can

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Speaker 1: call it Dallas because we're technically in Frisco, but we're

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Speaker 1: in North Texas, North Texas, and not only is it

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Speaker 1: the home of the Dallas Cowboys, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: the home of the twenty eighteen NFL Draft, because you

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Speaker 1: can't have a casual Wednesday around here these days. Not

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Speaker 1: only are the Dallas Cowboys preparing for the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: which we'll get into, Azukiel Elliott available for this week

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Speaker 1: after the tro was granted yesterday, so we'll get all

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Speaker 1: into that. But we got to talk about the NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft coming down here, and a lot of people think

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Speaker 1: it has to do with the original eighty eight having

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Speaker 1: such a great performance in Philadelphia and making it more

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Speaker 1: of a stadium event now than just a theater. So

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Speaker 1: What do you guys think of this breaking news? I

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Speaker 1: thought it was expected. I thought all along they were

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Speaker 1: going to get the draft this year. I think they

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Speaker 1: thought all along they were going to get the draft.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people thought, oh, it's going

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Speaker 1: back to Philadelphia, But I kind of like the NFL's

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Speaker 1: idea of moving it around and not get stuck in

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Speaker 1: the same place. You got to bring your game to

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Speaker 1: different parts of the country. You know, it's been on

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Speaker 1: the East coast forever. It went to the Midwest, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you considered Texas, south, Southwest, southwest, whatever,

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Speaker 1: and then I bet next year it goes to La somewhere. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I think that's good. It gives everybody in the

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Speaker 1: be interested to see how they set it up at

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Speaker 1: at and T Stadium. You know, they keep talking about

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Speaker 1: they had two hundred and twenty thousand people in Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: because it was outdoors on the streets. Sure, same thing

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you could put two hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: in the stadium to keep an eye on it. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: bring up a good point, Mickey, how they're going to

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Speaker 1: set it up? We In our press release we received today,

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Speaker 1: it says the draft site will encompass the field, the stands,

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Speaker 1: outdoor plazas, and creating an all encompassing atmosphere and enabling

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Speaker 1: more fans than ever before to watch their favorite team selection. Guys.

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Speaker 1: You guys have seen super Bowls hosted here. Final Four's

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Speaker 1: major sporting events, most recently the College Football Playoff national Championship.

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Speaker 1: They do it big here in Texas. Yeah, they will.

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Speaker 1: And you know that's the great thing that's you know,

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Speaker 1: the mini is the draft has becomes huge, and it's

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Speaker 1: it's the it's the three nights of all hope. You know,

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Speaker 1: you hope that your team can get better. And so

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Speaker 1: no better venue than to give hope than to come

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Speaker 1: in fact, can can put three quality days together and

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Speaker 1: maybe make your fortunes better or you know, in some cases,

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Speaker 1: some teams that have success drafting make them even better.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited about it, I really really am. I

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Speaker 1: love the draft. I'm one of these guys that said

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Speaker 1: this would be a great job if we didn't have

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Speaker 1: to play games. I'd love this if it would just

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Speaker 1: we could just draft all the time. That would be

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Speaker 1: my favorite thing. Just evaluate players and work on the draft.

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Speaker 1: That's what I would absolutely love to do. We got

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Speaker 1: a draft show plan now, well, actually Derek and I

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Speaker 1: don't think we could replicate what we did last year

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Speaker 1: we might be able to put a camera in that

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Speaker 1: They might not like that, but maybe we'll play in

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Speaker 1: something you could host it. So do you think they'll

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Speaker 1: You know, the previous places where they actually had the

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Speaker 1: then you had all the people outside, right, They've got

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's what's going to happen, but

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Speaker 1: where they're drafting. Yeah. Yeah, you can open those doors too.

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Speaker 1: It's the perfect venue for this, because we talked about

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Speaker 1: the day, eagle Man. But yeah, this is a national spectacle.

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Speaker 1: Three days. Oh yeah, it's the Three Days of Hope

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Speaker 1: I would just keep it here every year. I don't

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Speaker 1: Now you could have one hundred thousand people actually watching

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Speaker 1: it and you have the big screen up there. Took

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Speaker 1: you sdatron, Yeah, yeah, you have the screen up there.

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Speaker 1: You know what, as much as I love the Draft

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Speaker 1: next season, next season. Yeah, they're they're pouring money into

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Speaker 1: so maybe down the road. It's a great idea. I

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Speaker 1: think that everybody. You know, it's a centrally located thing too.

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Speaker 1: drive you can drive here. Absolutely, Atlanta, it's great, great

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Speaker 1: but you gotta put Jerry in the middle of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Derek and I were talking about this. This is business. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey, you know, I think we have

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Speaker 1: what we need to do well. Two years ago, the

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Speaker 1: and everyone knows where we're here. But let's get into

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Speaker 1: the legality of everything. Yesterday, the Southern Region Court of

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447
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Speaker 1: so you know, we just got into everything. A zek yell.

448
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: If your guys' brains are hurting, join the club because

449
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,239
Speaker 1: this has been a roller coaster. I think Mickey has

450
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: killed about five hundred trees trying to understand it all.

451
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: And I don't blame you because there's so much to

452
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Speaker 1: digest in this situation. Now, now you have to ask

453
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: a twenty two year old to focus on football, and

454
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: I think you know a lot of people it's very

455
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: easy to say, well, once you get on the field,

456
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: that's easy. But you know there are different things that

457
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: are going around that are affecting this team because of this,

458
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: and you know, brand that's what you've talked about as

459
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: far as you know, you're different, not necessarily argument, but

460
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: stance on taking the suspension because sure, I mean, and

461
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: I'll just throw this out there, do you guys think

462
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: that Dak and Ezekiel Elliott are seen together as much

463
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: as they wore last season? And I'm not saying outside

464
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: of here, you know, are they able to associate as much.

465
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: How is this being handled? How is this affecting the

466
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: locker room? It's hard? Yeah, I would speak more to

467
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: Zeke's perspective, Like you just said, Tay, what how tough

468
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: is it for him to be sitting at home yesterday

469
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: while the team is meeting and going through walkthrough and

470
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: all that, and not knowing what your situation is and

471
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: then have to turn around and switch gears and say,

472
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: all right, I'm playing this week. I wonder if after

473
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: a while that takes a mental toll. Now, he probably

474
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: would say otherwise, and I can't get in his head,

475
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: but I mean he's a professional, yeah, and you know,

476
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: Garrett has given him a lot of credit for the

477
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: approach hasn't changed. But I just wonder after a while

478
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: if it's just like it just kind of wears on

479
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: you a little bit. Yeah. Well, Garrett's message today was

480
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: control what you can control, and I think that's true,

481
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: especially here. You know, they really don't have power to

482
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 1: do much. They're just kind of at them or see

483
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: of whatever happens week by week. But you know this,

484
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm Darren McFadden, it's like am I

485
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: playing this week? Are you playing? This week. Who's here?

486
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: You know, is he even allowed to be here. It's

487
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 1: more of a taxing strain than I think people are

488
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: really focusing on because you know, make it. You're right

489
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: if it does get pushed back, and just like the

490
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: Tom Brady case, and that can get handled in the

491
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: off season, that makes a huge difference the entire team, right,

492
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, if that can be handled in the off

493
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: season compared to right now, huge difference now yet to

494
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: be seen. But he will be playing this week, will

495
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: travel on the road to San Francisco. So I think

496
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: the benefit is he didn't miss a practice, because we

497
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: talked about that yesterday. If he'd missed a week of

498
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: practice and then he's all of a sudden he's eligible,

499
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: then what do you do from a game planning standpoint,

500
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 1: But to have him miss a meeting. I don't think

501
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: it's that big a deal that they're getting into the

502
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: meat of their preparation now. So that's good for this

503
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: week anyway it is, So let's get into this week.

504
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Speaker 1: Sean Lee back at practice a site for sore eyes

505
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Speaker 1: after he's missed two games with the hamstring injury. We

506
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: didn't get to see much, but what was at what

507
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: were you guys able to see a little bit or

508
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: think that he's going to get work in today? Your

509
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: thought there, Oh, I think he goes right back to

510
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: where he was doing and you know before practice he

511
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: would work on the chords, make sure that hamstring was

512
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: stretched out and warm, and it's time to go. Yeah,

513
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: I don't think they really you know, he's like you said, Tay,

514
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: he's missed a couple of games. They need him to

515
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: they need him to come back. There's I mean, that's

516
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: that's an understatement what I just said. But you know

517
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: him and then also Hitchens. You know, I asked Jason

518
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: Garrett thought in the walk off today about run defense.

519
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: You know he says, Hey, it's just not one thing.

520
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: You know, they talk about fits, they talk about you know, technique,

521
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: they talk about, you know, playing assignments. There's so many

522
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: things that have they have gone on in this run defense.

523
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: And you know that's the great thing about the bye week.

524
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: You're able to identify, you know, hey, are we coaching

525
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: it the right way? Are we teaching it the right way?

526
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 1: Are we are the players getting the message? Are they

527
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: they are they doing what we are asking them to do.

528
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: There's so many things when you're having those issues, you know,

529
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: and and they realize. I mean, his answer to to

530
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: us in the media was I thought was very good.

531
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: He said, hey, you're not gonna light my answer, but

532
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: I thought it was a good answer. You know, he's

533
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: talking about all the things that you need to be

534
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: good at and run defense, and they've struggled with that.

535
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's not just hey, the defensive tackles

536
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: or the defensive ends, or the safeties or the linebackers.

537
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: But having Sean Lee back with Anti Hitchens, you know,

538
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: taking Jalen Smith out of the mix at least where

539
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: he has to play a full time role, I think

540
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: will help. But overall, you know, again it's gonna be

541
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: about it's gonna be about assignments, it's gonna be about execution,

542
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: and then you know, it's gonna be about finishing. And

543
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: if they do all those things, we've seen them, Jason

544
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: Garrett said this, we've seen we've played some good run

545
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: defensive times. We've been able to coach that we show

546
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: that we take that example and that hey, this is

547
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: our teaching, this is how we do it. And you know,

548
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: so the players have to not that they have to

549
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: buy into that. They just have to do a better

550
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: job of doing what they're what they've shown on film

551
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: occasionally at times this year, and it'll help. And he,

552
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he just kind of glossed over it having

553
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: Sean Lee on the field. Yeah, let's not minimize that

554
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: or forget how much they missed him. You know, I

555
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: was reading a article this morning on Carolina with Luke

556
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 1: Keikley missing concussions. The veteran, the veteran safety that they

557
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: just picked up from San Francisco, was it they like

558
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: a ten twelve year veteran and he got He was

559
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: talking about what Keekley on the field meant to the defense.

560
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: How he goes when I got here, he goes. I

561
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 1: went in the film room and I watched with him.

562
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to learn what he knows, because he knows everything,

563
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: and he goes in. As much as I spent in there,

564
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: I still got on the field and stad, god, how

565
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: did he know that? Elzabetha? Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh And

566
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: and he was and made me think that's Sean Lee, right,

567
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: And they missed that. And they got a bunch of pups.

568
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: They don't have a veteran safety there to you know,

569
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: to kind of say, Okay, now I can see what's coming.

570
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: And so I think a lot of that stuff that

571
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: that maybe Jason was talking about, is you got a

572
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: little guidance from your veteran linebacker might help you get

573
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: in the right gap or you know, do the right

574
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: thing where you're supposed to do it. I just think

575
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: they missed him, and awfully, awfully, I'm not gonna say

576
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna settle everything because he obviously it's got against Denver.

577
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: But I just think they've had so many moving parts

578
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: in there, uh, that you finally got to get settled.

579
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: And now it's like, okay, I think they're settled on

580
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: Crawford plan right defensive end. Now it's like, okay, what

581
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: do we do inside? We saw David Irving? Is he

582
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: better there? We talked about it yesterday. Is he better there?

583
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: Or is he better at the three technique? Alan's at

584
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: the one? Um? You know that that's what they're gonna

585
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: have to settle and then how they do their rotation inside? Yeah? Absolutely, Man,

586
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: So much to talk about todayellis what's going on with

587
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith not practicing today? Not to worry though, Well,

588
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: to me, there's concerned just that and I know to

589
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: some degree they're being cautious with him and trying to

590
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: rest him and make sure that back doesn't continue flaring up. Um.

591
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: And you know, but he missed two games last year.

592
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: I don't know how directly related it is to last year,

593
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: but he missed some time in training camp. And just

594
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: when you have a big guy with a back injury,

595
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: it can be a chronic type deal. And so they've

596
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: got to think about contingencies there. You got Chaz Green,

597
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: you got Byron bell Um, but man, he's the key

598
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: to that offensive line. In terms of the blindside, it

599
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: sounds like it's got to be something they can't fix. Yes, right, absolutely,

600
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: and and and it sort of reminded me of, you know,

601
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: the end of And I'm not trying to compareegment, Yeah,

602
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm being careful. Yeah, Yeah, what Troy had at the end,

603
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: basically they couldn't fix, you know, Charles Tapper, whatever he

604
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: had they couldn't fix. That they can't fix. So it's

605
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: something you have to manage. And I think that's what

606
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: they're they're trying to do right now with him, to

607
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: make sure that he's ready to play a game the

608
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: best to his ability. Yeah, We've seen him take Wednesdays

609
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: off me and even last year they started trying to

610
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: manage things. I kind of thought when we saw the

611
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: Green Bay week when they took him out, I'm thinking, Okay,

612
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: this is just a day. And then it turned into Wednesday, Thursday,

613
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: and Friday. Then I was like, oh my gosh, this

614
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: is not something that you just kind of say, oh,

615
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna be okay. But I believe Micky's right, and

616
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: I with backs, you just don't know. You just don't

617
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: know if he's gonna wake up, you know, one morning

618
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: and say, man, I cannot you can't move, you know,

619
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: And that's that's the problem that you're running into. You know,

620
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: here's your all pro left tackle that you have to have.

621
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to have this guy. And so

622
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna do everything they can to try

623
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: and manage through the season. And if it means not

624
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: practice and annoyed playing games, I mean, that's gonna be

625
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: a rough way to go for him. I mean, he

626
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: isn't an All Pro and he knows how to play

627
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: in these games, and but practice is important to him

628
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: as well. And you know, if he can't do that

629
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: and just playing the games. Well, you know, they're gonna

630
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: have to have somebody ready. They're gonna have to have

631
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: whether it's Byron Bell or Chaz Green, somebody's gonna have

632
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: to be ready at you know, just get as many

633
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: reps as they can because you just don't know if

634
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: if it's gonna make it through seventy five plays or

635
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: you know, two three plays in, you're gonna be well,

636
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Speaker 1: we have to go to the backup here. You've got

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Speaker 1: You've got Cooper I think settled in it left guard. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that sounds like that's gonna be the deal. So

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Speaker 1: the question is, yeah, I mean, is it better now

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Speaker 1: for Chad's Okay, he can focus on being that swing

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Speaker 1: tackle and that's the guy you go to if something

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Speaker 1: happens with Tyrn. I don't. I don't know, because he

643
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Speaker 1: played pretty well at left tackle in those two games

644
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Speaker 1: last year and that's his natural position. Maybe it's a

645
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Speaker 1: better way well against forty nine ers. Actually yeah, maybe

646
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Speaker 1: it's a better fit for him. Um, but again, you

647
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: still want to see continuity and improvement in that interior situation,

648
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Speaker 1: that left guard. So maybe with some bye week, maybe

649
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: maybe Cooper can take ownership of that spot. So do

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Speaker 1: you think Tyron Smith's condition had something to do with

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Speaker 1: them deciding that Jonathan Cooper is the left guard. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm the more. Actually, you don't have to make two

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Speaker 1: moves possibly to solve one problem. Yeah, that's that's one

654
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: of those questions you need to bump into somebody in

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Speaker 1: the hallway here at the Star and kind of ask

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Speaker 1: and see if if if that's the case. I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't discount what you're saying there. It's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know Chaz Green. You know, I know they felt

659
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Speaker 1: like that he was one of the best five, but

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Speaker 1: now it's I feel like it's, well, maybe his best

661
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Speaker 1: position is is tackle, and so now let's keep him

662
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Speaker 1: fresh so if we need him. Now I'm again hearing things,

663
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: seeing things, it looks like they're going to split time,

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Speaker 1: I mean with Green and with with with Byron Bell

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Speaker 1: at left tackle. So I don't think they're totally sold

666
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Speaker 1: on saying, hey, it's Green's job if something happens, But

667
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, that's kind of where they're at right now. Man,

668
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: did you guys think there would be this much uncertainty

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line going into this season? I mean, yes,

670
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Speaker 1: it you know, left guard and right tackle is pretty

671
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Speaker 1: much cemented with Lyle Collins. But the uncertainty there's just

672
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: kind of continued and perpetuated throughout the season. Well, the injury,

673
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: the back concern has has hurt and you know, and

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Speaker 1: Mickey's brought this up before and he said, hey, they

675
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Speaker 1: just need to play better. And you know, what we

676
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Speaker 1: didn't project was that some of the guys that you've

677
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Speaker 1: that are all pro players maybe aren't playing their absolute

678
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Speaker 1: best right now. That's where we're spoiled a little bit.

679
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 1: I watched that game last to San Francisco game blocking

680
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: was unbelievably good protection, you know, I mean they were

681
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: running the football or big holes there, and so you're

682
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: like thinking, man, where's that group? You know, But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's Doug Free and it's Ron Leary, and it's

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Speaker 1: you know, it's but the guys like your your center

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Speaker 1: and your your right guard. You need them to play

686
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Speaker 1: a little bit better. And you know that they're they're

687
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Speaker 1: clearly capable of doing that, but they just haven't played

688
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Speaker 1: very well as a group for the first five weeks

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Speaker 1: this season. Yeah, well, before we get to our final

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Speaker 1: break here in the SWUBC markets, you and let's go

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Speaker 1: to the phone lines. We have our favorite friend of

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Speaker 1: the show, Philip from France. Please forgive me for for

693
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Speaker 1: my broken English at times, as usually I'm going to

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Speaker 1: be a bit long too many the listeners I would

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Speaker 1: be called for to me, I couldn't interact live the

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Speaker 1: last week because of duty. Because of duty, but I

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Speaker 1: try to cut up on all the shows on the website.

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Speaker 1: I wish I'll be able to make the trip down

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Speaker 1: and tell us to attend the draft and maybe meet you.

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Speaker 1: Be sure, I'll come down with some of the finest

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Speaker 1: book on book on your French wines to share with you.

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Speaker 1: Sounds welcome, You're welcome anytime if you want to make

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Speaker 1: that trip. You got a free pass to come to

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Speaker 1: the Star now, yeah, thank you. Just one thing. The

705
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Speaker 1: right pronunciation in French of the earring as it is

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Speaker 1: in English is bone. The sea at the end is silent.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Philip, Yes, thank you. You're welcome. You're welcome.

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Speaker 1: For the history, it's a reminiance of the way the

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Speaker 1: so called guilty had to face his judges who were

710
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Speaker 1: sticking on a bench on a platform only during the

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Speaker 1: inclusion area. So I'm gonna runt a bit. Mickey he's

712
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 1: played about about a play in the last forty nine game.

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Speaker 1: What about the DPI on ground costs he where the

714
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Speaker 1: Jets cornback got flagged for when the quarterback cornerback was

715
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: just blanking him. And what about the blooded OPI where

716
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: the that titan extending just his right arm and should

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00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: have been called for for it and not getting flagged.

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Speaker 1: Both plays are happening in the Jets end zone, the

719
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Speaker 1: last one ling the scoring of the deciding Thready and Kitty.

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Speaker 1: And see what's when Tom went pets Tom Pitty. Yes

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Speaker 1: that rest no flags whatsoever. I can't take care of

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Speaker 1: the whole I can't take there of the whole league.

723
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Speaker 1: I can take care of what's gonna possibly affect the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of things that went wrong from

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Speaker 1: my couch on Sunday. Yeah, okay, just just what what

726
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Just in Europe, you know, when you play football,

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Speaker 1: as soon as you start chelling at a ref on anything,

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Speaker 1: you're out of the You're out of the game. I mean, okay,

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Speaker 1: now that being said, Um about Zeke, what's the precious

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Speaker 1: gift you you got in your life? It's your name?

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Speaker 1: You want to pass it to the next generation as

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Speaker 1: cleaner as you got it. Sure, but the team's T

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Speaker 1: shirt says fight right, So I say, go fight zeke ye.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure all owner, cut, staff members, players, all people

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Speaker 1: Go fight for your rights, for your own name and

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Speaker 1: the right to pass it as clean as you got it. Now,

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Speaker 1: I've got just two quick questions with all profoundly, and

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Speaker 1: to the lineup. How do you envision the defense going forward? Second,

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Speaker 1: I know it's early, but dress scudding already began. Okay,

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Speaker 1: someone got you know it's it's very hard in France

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Speaker 1: to follow college football. What are the best let's god

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Speaker 1: prospect to watch that maybe that may be available for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys in next year's rap. Thanks for taking my cold,

746
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Speaker 1: being so patient with me and sharing your thoughts. Have

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Speaker 1: a great day, Go Cowboys, Go Tigers, and the teaser

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Speaker 1: that these Alma mater Bye bye bye, Philip, you're a lobo,

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Speaker 1: you guys know why Papa John's pizza tastes so great? Why? McKey?

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Speaker 1: There you go. Before we get to Philip's questions, let's

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Speaker 1: get to your poll questions, Rob, because that was a

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Speaker 1: good one that can talk a lot about getting ready

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Speaker 1: for this game this weekend. Because yeah, there's there's a

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Speaker 1: football game the Cowboys will be playing on Sunday. There

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Speaker 1: four names for the Cowboys post by that could have

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Speaker 1: an impact for the Cowboys down the stretch. Here Cheeto,

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Speaker 1: Bryce Butler, Jordan Lewis, Ryan Switzer. Which player do you

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Speaker 1: think could have the biggest impact for the Cowboys after

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Speaker 1: the buy would I have two on defense, one on

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Speaker 1: offense and special team slash receiver? Guy? Who do you

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Speaker 1: guys think? Wow? Switzer, Awoosier, Lewis fourth guy? I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: Butler Butler, Yeah, h got a vote, anybody? Lewis Jordan

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Speaker 1: Lewis wifty eight percent of the vote, followed by Bryce

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Speaker 1: Butler at twenty percent. You wonder maybe could he be

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Speaker 1: earning some more snaps offensively after the way he's played?

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Speaker 1: So Switzer got really nothing. Then Woozier fourteen percent. Again

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Speaker 1: he's been injured. Switzer eight percent. You know, he's a guy.

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Speaker 1: How do you get him on the field unless you're

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Speaker 1: taking Jason Witton off the field. And there is that

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00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: so but punt returns fuel position. Switzer could cause people

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Speaker 1: to punt maybe more often. There you go, that's about that.

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Speaker 1: That's the trick, right, I'm telling you what if they

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Speaker 1: off if they had if they had Switzer last year

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Speaker 1: with the way the defense was playing, getting off the

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Speaker 1: field on third downs and and you know, keeping people,

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Speaker 1: you know, not giving up big plays and not getting

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Speaker 1: gashed on the run. Ryan Switzer would be the guy

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Speaker 1: that has fifty eight percent. I'm serious, he could be.

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Speaker 1: You know, Okay, we got the fumble, you got the

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Speaker 1: fumble punt, that's that happened. But I look back, look

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Speaker 1: at the way that Arizona game win. You know, once

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Speaker 1: Arizona had to start punting, you know, Chris Jones was punting,

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Speaker 1: you know, punting Dallas out of trouble. But Switzer was

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Speaker 1: making Arizona have to pay for their their bad punty.

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Speaker 1: That twenty one yard return he had in the first

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Speaker 1: half against Arizona's one of might be one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest plays in the of the year if it turns out,

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Speaker 1: because he finally got them in a short field, broke

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Speaker 1: the ice. That offense couldn't get anything going in Arizona

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Speaker 1: and it was a huge field position play for them. No,

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Speaker 1: it absolutely was. And I felt like, though, with you know,

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Speaker 1: only eight percent, there's that if if they if if

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00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: Mickey is absolutely right, punt Moore and all of a sudden,

846
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: Ryan Switzer becomes a difference maker. And I guarantee this

847
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: folks out there, oh yeah, broad at Sea's out there

848
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: difference maker for you know, fumbling the ball and but

849
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: no he he has that kind of ability to flip

850
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: the field for you. I think it has something to

851
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: do with the fact that offensively, he's probably not going

852
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: to see many snaps. He's gotten some jet sweeps. They've

853
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: tried to get him going in the running game, but

854
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: as a receiver, you know there's only so many balls

855
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: to go around. Well, if if you didn't have Ezekiel

856
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: Elliott playing in this game, then it then it becomes okay,

857
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: the running backs we all talked about and maybe adding

858
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: some jet sweeps, tosses, whatever you want to do to

859
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 1: Ryan Switzer to try and the kids is a dynamic

860
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: player with the ball in his hands. Yeah, I'll tell

861
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: you another one too. And it's a shame that a

862
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: Woozier has been hurt. It's a shame because you watch

863
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 1: him in the Green Bay game at safety. He looked

864
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: pretty comfortable playing and that in that spot. Yeah, and

865
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: you watch him from the middle of the field run

866
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: to get the outside to make a tack making time,

867
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: you know that that's what you want to see. Lewis

868
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: has been. Lewis is easy for me. Lewis is easy

869
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: to see because you see him making plays, which is great,

870
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: but Butler, you know, finishing some plays. Maybe you're right,

871
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: maybe he does get some more work over what we've

872
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: seen with Terrence Williams finishing plays. That's what he wants

873
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: to keep doing. I forget how many yards plays of

874
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: twenty plus yards he's gotten. But it's so important because

875
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: it tries to back off for this running game. A

876
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: little bit helps it helps it at a great deal.

877
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: Mickey's got his pen out going to the stats. What

878
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 1: are you looking at over there? Well? I didn't count

879
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: up how many possessions they had, like drives, right, but

880
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: I did count out the number of possessions that started

881
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: at least at their own forty yard line. Six. Yeah, Yeah,

882
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: there's got to be ten twenty thirty forty fifty eight

883
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: drives at least, and only six were the forty or beyond. Yeah.

884
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: I mean you're starting in the hole all the time.

885
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: They are starting in the whole lot. And as a

886
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: matter of fact, only one of those six occurred in

887
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: the last two games. Here's the starting positions, uh in

888
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: the Rams game twenty nineteen, twenty five, twenty five, fourteen,

889
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty five, twenty one, twenty five, twenty five. Wow. Well,

890
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: San Francisco has got a field position weapon too. Their

891
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: punter's got the most puns inside the twenty in the

892
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: NFL right now, Chris Jones more than Chris Jones. Well

893
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: he's played one extra game. A yeah, exactly. I just

894
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: think that to me that all those people that you

895
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,959
Speaker 1: named have a shot. I mean, they really do. That's

896
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: a that's a great pole question because every you know,

897
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: with the exception maybe a Woozier, you know, he's he's

898
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: It's just it wasn't a full on pole. I mean

899
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: they had fatigue, you know, and it tightened up on

900
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: him and so it might as well been pulled because

901
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: he's not not playing. But you know, he's another guy

902
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: that's got some size to him that can cover. You know,

903
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: he just can't get on the field or stay on

904
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: the field. I think the answer to part that pole

905
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: is who's going to get the opportunity to make a

906
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: big difference? Yeah, and I think it's Jordan Lewis because

907
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: we know he is on the Nickel defense right now.

908
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: He does he's play there, playing so much Nickel lately,

909
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: he's learned, he's earned his letter. Jackie's out there. Yeah. Uh,

910
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: Bryce Butler's gonna split those snaps with Terence Williams the

911
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: way they've been. Everybody says, well, can he get more? Well,

912
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: he has gotten more, right there, they they're kind of

913
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: splitting him. Yeah, But the punt return job is Switzers

914
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: And if Cheeto can stay healthy, I think he can

915
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: work his way into a rotation at safety with but whoever,

916
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: but the punt returner, it's not all on him, right,

917
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: It don't hold anybody up. He can't do anything that's fair,

918
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: you know. And they haven't done a good job of

919
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: blocking for him, no, So I mean he's not a

920
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: magician out. Yeah. It just reminds me so much of

921
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: when we had Desmond Howard returning punts in Green Bay

922
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: that if you get a dynamic guy that can shows

923
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: that he can bring the ball back twelve fifteen, seventeen

924
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: yards every time, and you might break that occasional one,

925
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: the blocking approve improves. Like the guy doesn't want to

926
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: be the guy. Oh my god, I missed the block

927
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: that you know, if we just got that one block,

928
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: it would have been a touchdown. You don't want to

929
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: be that guy sometimes, like the fumble I think really

930
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: affected Switzer. And here I'm talking a lot about Switzer here,

931
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: but I think the fumble really affected his Like, Okay,

932
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: I've got secure. You know that aggressiveness that you want.

933
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: You need to get him back being aggressive again. And

934
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: the way you do that is you got to get

935
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: him started. Get him started, get him started with the

936
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: ball in his hands, instead of him having to sit

937
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: there and look at the ball and look at two guys,

938
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: avoid somebody on him and immediately have to avoid somebody. Right,

939
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: Just give him a couple steps to he can find

940
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: because he will see it. Yeah, but man, you gotta

941
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: get him going. Yeah, what a great pole today, Rob,

942
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: thanks to day. It's very good and just Dan's are

943
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: really quickly. Brian Philly passed. You know where can people

944
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: start their draft scouting? Yeah? They can't get a lot

945
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: of Yeah. Dane Brugler was talking about there's a kid

946
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: at Notre Dame and the name escapes me right now,

947
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: left guard. There's a guard at Notre Dame. Yeah, a

948
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: guard at Notre Dame that people are looking at as

949
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: a high I don't think you know that. I think

950
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: he was looking more for resources, like where he can go.

951
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 1: Maybe Dane Brugler is the oh no, yeah, yeah, following

952
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: Dane and all. That's good. I mean, you know, he's

953
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: the one guy that talks about the draft every single

954
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: day and then he and then he talks about players

955
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: to watch and stuff like that. But yeah, but his

956
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,479
Speaker 1: left guard is evidently from name it. I can't remember

957
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: the kid's name, but I know it was from Notre Dame.

958
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: So maybe Philip can check out Notre dames roster left guard.

959
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: They're not going to draft a true guard high. How

960
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: do you know it ain't gonna happen? How do you

961
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: know Zach Martin Martin. I've got twenty nine years of that,

962
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: Zach Martin over Johnny Man. And that's why. Yeah, exactly,

963
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: they already did it once I think, And when was

964
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: the other time they did it? First round? Guard was

965
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: John nil in a first round? I don't know if

966
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: he was first round, but yeah, that's that's going back.

967
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: It's a second round maybe Larry Allen, right, but they

968
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 1: saw that he was a Hall of Fame player. Robin

969
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: Iard hockey before the podcast and we were saying, you know,

970
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: it's a shame that there aren't players in college football

971
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: right now that kind of have the effect of Johnny

972
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: Manzil and the way that he was able to be

973
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: bigger than college football because that draft, if that draft

974
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: had been hosted here at AT and T, and Steven

975
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: basically having to restrain Jerry was on the clock. I

976
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: don't know if Jerry could have done it, because what

977
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: Mickey just told you, They're gonna have to hold him

978
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: back from even going down a tadium. Now you got

979
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: a chance to draft John. Isn't that the chaisier draft? Though?

980
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: Didn't they weren't the draft Chaser one or two pick? Yeah,

981
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: Blackbird told me they had the card filled out. It

982
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: was before. Yeah, they had Chaser's name on a card.

983
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 1: It was done and r and they were getting ready

984
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: to hand it in and and they took him and

985
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: Robert had to go give me that back, which which

986
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: debunked the story that they had to strap Jerry down

987
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: from handing in a card to Man's el. We're watching

988
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: it on the on the cam, sure war cam, and

989
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: that wasn't the case. Even did tell me it's a

990
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: wonderful fast draft that they were very interested in johnny

991
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: Man's ane, but they weren't running up there with the

992
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: card and had to Jerry sit out put that card away.

993
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: The technicalities that Nicky lives out, but I know kind

994
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: of brushed them on his way because he said that,

995
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna have to hold back Jerry. I'm

996
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: gonna physically watch Jerry in the war room. They should

997
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: you learn a lot, see it. Make sure that we're

998
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: looking at that you learn a lot. We got a

999
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: Twitter question specifically aimed at you, Brian, but you guys

1000
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: answer too. What does Brian mean when he says a

1001
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: linebacker is quote unquote physical. Which of our linebackers are

1002
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: physical and which aren't? Yeah, Brian, Yeah, the physical linema

1003
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 1: like Sean Lee to me is a physical linebacker because

1004
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: what he But he's also a fast flow linebacker because

1005
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: how will the physicality of it is the tackling part,

1006
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: getting to the ball, getting off blocks. You know, you

1007
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: can't allow yourself as a linebacker to get blocked, especially

1008
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: in this scheme. So you know, I think if there's

1009
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: some some times that we've seen Jalen Smith be physical

1010
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: at the point of attack during during training camp and

1011
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: then some of the preseason games, you know, stepping up

1012
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: in the whole, be physical, take on a block, get

1013
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 1: rid of the block, and then make the play right there.

1014
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: In the hole, you know those You know, sometimes you

1015
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: get linebackers that will just run and don't want anything

1016
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: to do with any type of content. They just want

1017
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: to run to the ball and then you know, and

1018
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: be athletic enough to beat you to get there and

1019
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: make the play. But I think the linebackers, like I say,

1020
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that. I'm trying to think of

1021
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: the linebackers that really don't well, dam Damien Wilson to me,

1022
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: doesn't really want to take you on. Even though he

1023
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: plays sam linebacker. He wants to run to the ball.

1024
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: That's his big thing. So you know, you look at

1025
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: guys like Jalen, you look at Wilburt, you know, guys

1026
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: that are willing to use their hands, play with their

1027
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: hands and then get That's that's what makes Sean Lee

1028
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: so good in the scheme is the fact that they

1029
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: got him at that will linebacker, that he's so quick

1030
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: too when they try to get him, he just he's

1031
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: just so grabb and go I mean, and instead of

1032
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: fighting and then having to reach to try and go

1033
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: make a play, physical physical jam, get off and then

1034
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: get to the football. You should have been able to

1035
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: answer that question. What about physical linebackers. Yeah. I just

1036
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: love it when fans just say this one's for Brian.

1037
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: You should you you grew that watching one, didn't you? Yeah,

1038
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: Brian or Locker for sure. There's there's your physical line.

1039
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: It's a physical linebacker. That's a that's a take on

1040
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: shed and then then get to the ball tackle finish

1041
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: his finest. I was gonna say Dick Buckers, but then

1042
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: it's Illinois. People don't know who Dick buccas is. Probably

1043
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: know is Oh Ray good old Ray was great in

1044
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: his day. What's up Ray? No? I think that's grad. See,

1045
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: they don't study the game, don't play for you? Who

1046
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: Rayny played for? Mony chance? Yeah, put me on the spot, Ran,

1047
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ask ask Rob to Rob green Bay,

1048
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 1: green Bay very good. I thought you were gonna watch

1049
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: the other day. I thought you were gonna guess. I

1050
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: really didn't think. I didn't mean to put but I

1051
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 1: thought you were just gonna guess. Yeah, Tommy John underwear

1052
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: the best that you guys can get right in here.

1053
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: Yea the greatest. But I mean nobus, I mean, let's

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Speaker 1: just start naming all these Atlanta's over my head. The

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Speaker 1: only thing I'm excited about is that story? Nine? There

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Speaker 1: you go, and I'm not excited about this, but it's

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Speaker 1: just it is what it is. Eric Armstead won't be

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Speaker 1: playing for them as well. Yeah, pensive end. That's a

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Speaker 1: big loss for them. Bone in his hand, Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: is a big loss. Moving and I are yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: officially moving. He's played very well. You watch the tape

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Speaker 1: that that that San Francisco has and number ninety one

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Speaker 1: there he has done a really good job, you know,

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Speaker 1: with a scheme change and things like that. Though, but

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Speaker 1: I really, uh man, I'll tell you why that's a

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Speaker 1: tough one for them because you know that's that's one

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Speaker 1: of those down linement, you know, that's the way it goes.

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Speaker 1: He's back up. Aaron Lynch also hurt calf strain, So

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Speaker 1: they're they're dealing with some struggling. They're not. It helps

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Speaker 1: that you can just work Elvis Duomerville into the well too.

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Speaker 1: I know that we're getting to the forty nine almost

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Speaker 1: there at the very getting there of the show, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have to stay tuned for more of that

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Speaker 1: tomorrow and Friday because we are out of time. Nine.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully there are no major NFL announcements between now and then,

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Speaker 1: so join us. Then we'll keep you up to date.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned to everyone's Twitter account at spacks fifty two,

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Speaker 1: which one of the greatest. We'll be back tomorrow. This

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