1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: It was everything I expected out of Bueller, especially in Colorado. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I'm gonna crap on Coors Field again because 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: that's just not a place where pitchers should live or be. 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: It is a rare opportunity when Clint and I get 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: to be with you guys right after a Dodgers game. 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 2: We are so happy to say that it's after a 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: Dodgers win, a five to three victory over the Colorado 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: Rockies in Denver, before they take on the Angels and 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: then have a crazy off day on Sunday. Clint Pisius 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: Alanaizzo with you here on Dodgers' Territory. Be sure to 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: rate us five stars, like and subscribe to Dodgers' Territory 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: on YouTube as well as wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, Clint, 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: it's great to be with you on this Thursday night 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: before you do your other podcast. I appreciate you making 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: time for me, sir. What is your game reaction? Obviously 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: Mooki is not in the lineup, so show Hay is 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: the leadoff spot makes it count right away? 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, show Hey leading off? It's pretty fun to watch, 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: but overall, anytime this team can and survive Colorado. I'm 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: happy they got out of there mostly unscathed. A little 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: bit of a little bit of a scare, Freddy Freeman 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: giving us a scare there in the bottom of the 23 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: ninth or the top of the ninth, kind of stretching 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,279 Speaker 1: out a single there, stomps a little hard on the base. 25 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: But he stayed in the game. Again, you're happy to 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: take three or four in Colorado, everybody's limbs are attached 27 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: for the most part. I'm good. I'm thrilled. Get me 28 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: the hell out of Colorado. I hate that place. 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: And sorry, wow, first of all, First of all, that 30 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: is my birthplace. Okay, So summer down a little bit, Okay, 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: I was born in Colorado. 32 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 3: And by the way, by. 33 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: The way, I don't think it's because he was stomping 34 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: on the bag trying to leg out that single. 35 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: It is so he's gassed. 36 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: I mean, Freddy Freeman was running as hard as Freddy 37 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: Freeman can. 38 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: But I tell you what everyone says that it's thin air. 39 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: It's not. It's less dense. But anyway, it's hard to 40 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: run in Colorado. 41 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: And if you ask anybody that played for an long 42 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: period of time in Colorado, it's very different and very 43 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: difficult to recover after a game there. So if Freddy 44 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: Freeman is fine, Showyotani goes off. Obviously Freddy with the 45 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: home run, Will Smith with the home run, So. 46 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: The offense was good. 47 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: And then Gavin Stone Clint gets into a little bit 48 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: of trouble there in the bottom of the sixth inning, 49 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, oh, here we go. And again it's 50 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: not easy to pitch at Corsefield. That's well documented, correct, 51 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: but limits the damage a little bit. They only give 52 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: up two runs from the bullpen. But we need to 53 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: see these situations with Gavin no like we saw him 54 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 2: pitch already against the Rockies now here obviously in Colorado. 55 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: But he's got to make improvements each time out. 56 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: Is that fair? 57 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I love still love what I'm seeing 58 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: out of Gavin Stone. I will continue to ask where 59 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: would this team be without Gavin Stone and the ascension 60 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: that he has made this year, particularly now with Walker 61 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: Buehler super injured and all that. But we'll talk about 62 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: that a little bit later. But love the stuff, love 63 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: the poise out of Stone there. He knows this team 64 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: they needed a lot out of him, probably got a 65 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: bull pen game going tomorrow against the Angels at Dodger Stadium, 66 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: So give him everything you got. Does pitch into the 67 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: sixth inning around eighty pitches, obviously you get a little 68 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: gas there. Day game at Colorado, it's it's it's a 69 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: warm enough day over there. The cloud cover came a 70 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: little bit later to cool it down a little. But 71 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: I love what we saw out of Stone. Gave this 72 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: team exactly what what it needed, what they needed, and 73 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, got the hell out of there when it 74 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: was time. I appreciate Dave, you know, not forcing the 75 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: issue there with the bases loaded in one out, But 76 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: love Gavin Stone. Get him to that All Star Game. 77 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: But that's a whole other story. 78 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: Eric Carros, who's a friend of the program here, we 79 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: had him on Dodgers Territory last week, talked about a 80 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: thing that you can't do at Corsefield, Clint, and that's 81 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: give up walks and you can't give them more outs 82 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: to work with. And that's what Gavin Stone was doing 83 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: there in the sixth inning. But again leaves the leaves 84 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: the outing with I believe he had bases loaded, did 85 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: he not? And then you know the bullpen comes in, 86 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: it's just down only giving up two runs. Oh Tani 87 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: owns Course Field. I think most hitters on NANDO hit 88 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: on Coors Field. Stone is this year's Bobby Miller. Yeah, 89 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's a good comparison. I think 90 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: Bobby Miller really showed some stuff last season. Obviously, you 91 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: know he's coming back to and Or He's back. But 92 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: I do think Gavin Stone is all star worthy. I 93 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: think he's worthy of our attention. I still need to 94 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: see a more complete Dodgers starting rotation. We'll get into 95 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: Clayton Krisha in just a little bit, but before we 96 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: do that, let's talk about the balancing of the offense. 97 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 3: Clint. 98 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: We talked about the home runs. Freddie has one, show 99 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: Hey has one, Will Smith had one. But taoscar Hernandez 100 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: doesn't go over the fence, but he had three hits 101 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: to balance it out. 102 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tao stepping up. I mean, I think you could 103 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: argue the entire team is stepping up in the absence 104 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: of Mookie Betts. You know, everybody stopped the presses. Chris 105 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: Taylor had a couple of hits. He's five for his 106 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: last fifteen. Sorry to put that into the ethos if 107 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: it breaks the good luck but if Chris Taylor is hitting, 108 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: things are going well for this team. In twenty twenty four, 109 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: Keiki her Nandez got in on the action a third 110 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: base with a base hit, which is tough for also 111 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: third baseman to do. But shoe Otani in that leadoff spot. 112 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: I know the lead there was into Taoscar. But I 113 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: want to talk Showey Otani because Tayo, we know he 114 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: could drop in some three hit games anywhere in the lineup. 115 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: But shoe Otani in that leadoff spot in the absence 116 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: of Mookie Betts has been impressive. Couple of monster bombs 117 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: out of leadoff spot. What do you like out of 118 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: show Hey leading out for this team? 119 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 2: I like anything anytime show Hay is in the lineup. 120 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I want Mooki in there. I mean, 121 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: I think Muki does a great job of setting the table, 122 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: you know what you have behind him, obviously with Showey 123 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: and Freddy and Will Smith and all of that. But 124 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: I think that show Hey, if as long as he's 125 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: not swinging outside of the zone and he stays within 126 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 2: himself and he's he you know, gets the pitches that 127 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: he's meant to hit, I'm fine with him there, I 128 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: mean anywhere in the top of the lineup. I'm fine 129 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 2: with show hey, I mean I think it's a better 130 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: lineup with Mooki in there. But obviously I wouldn't even 131 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: like sit down on the couch before the Dodgers were 132 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 2: already you know, on the board one nothing. So listen, 133 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 2: I'll take it. If he keeps doing that type of stuff, 134 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: I'll take it. And as we just heard, you know 135 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: shohe owns a course field. That place is a tough 136 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: place to hit. And you know what, it's not or 137 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: a tough place to pitch. It's not just the home runs, Clint, 138 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: it's the gaps are gigantic. So if you can, you know, 139 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: use the entire field. If you can obviously hit it 140 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: over the wall, that's great. But you know, that's why 141 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: there's so many doubles and triples at that park because 142 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: the gaps are huge. 143 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: I cover the Rockies for five seasons. Like I said, 144 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: I'm from there, so. 145 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: Not an enviable place to be if you are a pitcher, 146 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: but a great place to get your offense right for sure. 147 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: How about we look at behind the seams a little bit. 148 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: I have a couple of things I want to talk 149 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: to you about as far as you had mentioned what 150 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: the team's doing in the absence of Mookie, but what 151 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: about what this team is doing, Clint in the absence 152 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: of Muncie. 153 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: And the answer to that, Clint is. 154 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: Nothing, very very little. So what is it now? Thirty 155 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: two games don't have the exact updated numbers, but about 156 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: one fifty Dodgers third baseman or players that are standing 157 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: in at third base and hitting in the lineup or 158 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: hitting about a buck fifty since Max Munsey was sidelined 159 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: with that oblique I don't think we need any baseball 160 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: scholars here to tell you that is not getting it done. 161 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: What's going on? 162 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: What? 163 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: How did that become such a black hole for this 164 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: team because they got some okay players. Mcgil rohause plays 165 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: there on occasion, you know, and we love Miggy rowe 166 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: what's going on with this third base situation? Yeah? 167 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: You know, Kik was one for four today at the 168 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: third base position. 169 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: It's not an easy position to play offense or defensively, 170 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: of course on the keystone corner. But remember back in 171 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: the day when everyone was like, I don't want Max 172 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: Munsey playing third base, And I know it was because 173 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: more of his defense than it was because of his offense. 174 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: But I think he's gotten exponentially better defensively at the 175 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: third base spot. But I also think obviously we are 176 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: massively missing Max Munsey's back in that lineup. 177 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: I mean, just the professional at bat that he gives you. 178 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: And that's what he talked about the other day too, 179 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: right when we had him on foul territory. He was 180 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: just talking about or I can't remember for his Dodgers 181 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: or foul or fair, but you know, when he was 182 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: on foul territory, talking about the fact that what's the 183 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: one thing that he feels he brings to the lineup, 184 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: it's the fact that he can work counts, he tires 185 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: out the pictures. 186 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 3: He's so patient at the plate. 187 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: And even when Max Munsey wasn't getting hits or hitting 188 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: you know, hitting for average, hitting for power or whatever, 189 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: he was still getting on bas his on base percentage 190 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: was still there because he is still so patient at 191 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: the plate. He gives you a professional at bat every 192 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: single time. And I think that is absolutely what the 193 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: Dodgers are missing again, not just the bottom of the order, 194 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: but also when Max Monsey's on in there. It screws 195 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: up the entire lineup, and it doesn't allow guys around 196 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 2: him to. 197 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 3: Get good pitches. To see. 198 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: One of the things he had told you guys was, 199 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, he lets other guys kind of be themselves. 200 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: So there is kind of that that void. The bottom 201 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: of the lineup is kind of figuring some things out. 202 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: We know what the top end the lineup can do. 203 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: It's that that wrecked middle of the lineup that appears 204 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: to be the problem. 205 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: Uh. 206 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: Cavin Bigio has not been any help for this team 207 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: since joining us. I say us very liberally there and 208 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: not contributing much to to the offense at that third 209 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: base position. So, boy, does this team need Max Munty 210 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: back in so many ways. Never would have thought defense 211 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: would be a big thing. But I love that Sammy 212 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: Boyce Smith saying, we've been talking about it off and on. 213 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: I've been talking about a shit ton on my show. 214 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: Give Andre lipsi us a chance another. I think he 215 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: had another four hit game or four hits over his 216 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: last couple of games. Uh, Andre Lipsey, so's zero reason 217 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: to I don't care if he can't play defense, you know, 218 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: defense at third at a gold glove level. I don't 219 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: care if this dude is not Brooks Robinson. I want 220 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: to see what the bat can do this. You're supposed 221 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: to be able to earn the opportunity to play at 222 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: the big league level by playing well at Triple A, 223 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: and the Dodgers are not giving this kid an opportunity. Instead, 224 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: they went and did what they do. And no disrespect 225 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: to Kevin, but fans are annoyed. They're a little done 226 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: with the whole dumpster dive sometimes and it works, it 227 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: works so often for this front office. But right now 228 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: this kid is earning it and it's worth worth a 229 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: shot to see what he can do. By the way, 230 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: he was also a DFA pickup in the offseason. Was 231 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: Andre Lipsius? 232 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: Why are I think I think that. 233 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: I think it was Sammy that had that tweet if 234 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: we can go back to it about you know about Lipsius, 235 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: But I think, yeah, Sammy Boyce Smith. It's such a 236 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: good point that he brings up because they have a 237 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: ten game lead. I mean, it's not like they're fighting 238 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 2: for position. They're not jocking for position in the NL West. 239 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 2: They have enough of a cushion right now. I think 240 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: on June twentieth that you can try it. I mean 241 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: you tried out, Andy Pajs, you tried out. You know, 242 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: Vargas is back, you tried out obviously, James out when 243 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: he's now back, I mean you're still you're still plugging 244 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: away with with Gavin Lux and those types of things. 245 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: Ten game lead you have a little bit of leeway, 246 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 2: enough enough people around you that can pick you up. 247 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: He doesn't have to be the savior, but I mean 248 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: he could perhaps bring a spark to that position. Somebody 249 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: else asked, how do we fix Max? Obliques are tough? 250 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 3: Man? Obliques are really tough. I think it was yachty. 251 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 2: Their obliques and hamstrings are so tricky because it's like 252 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: there's nothing that you can do to fix it. 253 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 3: You just have to let you have to be patient. 254 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: And I don't know a single competitive professional athlete, let 255 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: alone a single competitive baseball player that wants to be 256 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: patient with their rehab while they have to sit on 257 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: the sideline and you know, wait to get on the 258 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: field again. 259 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: But if you tweak it again, then he's out for 260 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: another two months. 261 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: So it's like you got to be really really careful 262 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 2: with obliques and with hamstrings. 263 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,599 Speaker 3: So there's no real fixing Max. It's just trying to. 264 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kenny Chunk says the same thing that you've been 265 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: screaming from the mountaintops up, you know, and maybe they will, 266 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: you know. 267 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: I don't think it's. 268 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: Too long before Kevin Bigio, you know, finds his way 269 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: someplace else. And I hate that for the kid, I 270 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: really do. Justin Yamas no, no Bigio or lux equeals 271 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: a w. I mean, that's not fair. Come on, guys, 272 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: but I get it, you know, and fans can be 273 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: fans and they should be and that's why we love 274 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: That's why we love them because you're. 275 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 3: Allowed to be fanatics. So yeah, I don't know. 276 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: I mean, okay, so let's put on your your your 277 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: managerial hat, not your front office hat, but your managerial hat. 278 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: If you get to run the lineup out there tomorrow 279 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: against the Angels, who. 280 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: Were you running out there? 281 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: I mean the obvious, like I mean, Pitcher, Cutcher, whatever, 282 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: But who are you running out there? Well? 283 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: I think at this point we've what we've learned what 284 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: a lot of fans are clamoring for us to at 285 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: least see more of Miguel Vargas in the lineup. I 286 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: think the kid has earned a shot again to at 287 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: least get the bat in the lineup. Defense is another 288 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: one of those things. It's a question mark if I'm 289 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: being real, real nice, not. 290 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 2: Setting your lineup, Clint Pesis, Where are you putting these 291 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: guys defensively? 292 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: Oh? I know some folks want to see Vargas at 293 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: third base. He came up kind of playing third base 294 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: early in his professional career. If he's around, it doesn't 295 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: hurt to try him there. But I think lineup wise, 296 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: they're not that far off. I like what Dave is 297 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: running out there, so I would my managerial hat would 298 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: probably be something very similar to what we're seeing. I 299 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: would just probably not have a whole lot of Keiki 300 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: Hernandez and Kevin Bigio in the lineup. Even again, even 301 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: Chris Taylor kind of figuring some things out right now. 302 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: One guy, I will tell you, Meggi rose in there 303 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: at shortstop every day. 304 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 3: Y shocking, shocking. Yeah, you would put Niggi. 305 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: You would put Maggi behind the plate if it meant 306 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: that Meggi was in the line right there. 307 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: I mean, honest to God, I'm a. 308 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: Little concerned about you and your your love affair with 309 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: Miguel ro Defense. 310 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just love defense. 311 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: Oh, I get it. 312 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: I get it. 313 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: He's a goal glove middle infielder. He's a goal glove shortstop. 314 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: I get that completely. 315 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: And he's he's a really good dude. 316 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: Before we say goodbye, I have no idea how long 317 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: our shows are now, because his post came, we can 318 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: talk all night. Let's talk about Clayton Kershaw had a 319 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: great rehab start with the Oklahoma City Quakes. Are the 320 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 2: Rancho Hooka Mugga Quakes. Rather I apologize, I love to see. 321 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 2: All I care about is that he gets out of 322 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: this healthy. I couldn't care less what he's using in 323 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: his arsenal, what his velocity is, what any of it is. 324 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: Just please Obviously that's the patented Kershaw curveball. 325 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 3: But like, let's let's get out of this healthy. Is 326 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: he close? What do you think? 327 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: I think he's right on track. And listen to the 328 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: postgame words from Kersh and it sounds exactly like standard 329 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw, which is he doesn't want to be doing this. 330 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: He wants to be doing big league action, but he 331 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: knows this is part of, you know, part of the 332 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: steps for you know, towards getting back to the big 333 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: league mound, But did you know averaged I think it 334 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: was eighty eight to ninety miles an hour in the fastball, 335 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: which is about where you expect kursh right now coming 336 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: off of a significant enough shoulder operation for surgery in 337 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: his lifetime. I think I think we're probably very much. 338 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: This is like his first spring training start, so we 339 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: got another month before Kershaw is really ready to go. 340 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to rush him. I don't 341 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: think there's any reason to rush him. The need to 342 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: be one of those guys that if we're just we're 343 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: looking at the calendar right now, let's let's put a month, 344 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: put it a month out. That puts him right after 345 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: All Star break time. Do you think, Elana, do you 346 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: think Clayton Kershaw could be one of the first five 347 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: guys starting for this team right after the All Star break? 348 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: No, because he doesn't need to be. I really don't. 349 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: I mean, he could be, but I don't. I don't need. 350 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: I don't need to see Clayton honestly until September. 351 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: I really don't, you know, keep his arm fresh again. 352 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: If he's already out on rehab assignments, he's probably going 353 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: to come back. 354 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: And you know, end of July, beginning of August. 355 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: But I don't need him back until that point unless 356 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: you know, the Dodgers start really closing the gap, or 357 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: you know that the. 358 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: Lead in the NL West starts to. 359 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: Diminish, then I'll be like, oh gosh, you know, but 360 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: because I do want them to win the division again, 361 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: just for pride'sake and just because they're the freakin Dodgers. 362 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: So I don't need Kersh back until September, but he 363 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: is probably gonna I'm back a little bit more. What 364 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: I am a little bit more concerned about is, again, 365 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: if postseason started today, which obviously it is not, you know, 366 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: who are. 367 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: The top three? 368 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: Who do you feel super confident in right now that 369 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: is going to get you through a five game series. 370 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it got a lot worse with the Yoshinobu Yamamoto 371 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: being out, and we don't know how long it's going 372 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: to be out. So your number one is really easy, 373 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: at least with Tyler Glass. Now, everything in my every 374 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: fiber of my being tells me that Gavin stone As 375 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: has earned that second start. But after that it starts 376 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: to get real, real up in the air. We know 377 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: one option will not be Walker Buehler, at least right now, 378 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: if the postseason started right now, Kershaw still being out. 379 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: James Paxson's the only other living dude. So if that's 380 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: your third guy, give me Landon Neck instead. 381 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: It makes me nervous, right, I mean, in goodness, we 382 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: have four months before that is an issue that we need. 383 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: But that's scary. That's not a good pitching depth right there. 384 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: And obviously, you know good that Bobby Miller's back, but 385 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: the Kershaw's coming back. 386 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 3: Walker Bueller all of a sudden has right hip inflammation. 387 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 3: I don't buy that at all. 388 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: I think Walker Buehler needs a blow and perhaps he's 389 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: getting that IL stint right now because of the amount 390 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: of off days. I mean, obviously they're off on Sunday, 391 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: which is odd, and then I think they're off, you know, Thursday, 392 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 2: and then perhaps the following Monday. So he's placed on 393 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: the IL because of hip inflammation. But I think it's 394 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: just because they you know, he needs some time to 395 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: figure things out mechanically to get back to where he 396 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: feels that he should probably be at this point. You know, 397 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 2: we all I think we both said five six starts 398 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 2: and we'll kind of have a better gauge of where 399 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 2: he's at, and he doesn't like what he's doing now. 400 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: It was after last night's you know, his eighth start 401 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: on the season. It was everything I expected out of Bueller, 402 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: especially in Colorado, like him to go to Colorado. I'm gonna, 403 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm gonna crap on Coors Field again, because 404 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: that's just not a place where pitchers should live or be, 405 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: or ever exist. Based should not exist at course Field 406 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: or in Colorado. I'm sorry again, But nothing was ever 407 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: in the stars to line up for a positive outcome 408 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: for Walker Buehler. The you're breaking stuff isn't as good 409 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: in Colorado, and he doesn't have his best pitch over 410 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: his career, his fastball, So he was going to get 411 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: beat up. He did get beat up, and after the 412 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: game he was dejected. You know, he kind of hinted 413 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: that they were already in you know, talking about the 414 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: idea of giving him a blow, kind of giving him 415 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: that mental reset, whether it be just missing a start 416 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, a month, but he is, he's 417 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: in it right now, and you hate to see this 418 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: out of Walker's first time he's probably ever really been 419 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 1: challenged in his life. Because this guy's always been very 420 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,239 Speaker 1: good at what he does. All right, how worried are you? 421 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: Do you? Is this like a major concern with where 422 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: Walker Buehler is at or is this something where maybe 423 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: a month you've seen it happen before, a month off 424 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: kind of just put the baseball down on you know, 425 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: pick it back up in a couple of weeks, and 426 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: hopefully everything kind of resets. What do you think? 427 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that he has a luxury 428 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 2: to put it down for a month, but I do think. 429 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 2: I do think that I throw every single outing at 430 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: Corsefield out I never pay attention to. I mean, even 431 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: the best in the game can't figure it out at Corsefield. 432 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: And I get it, and I disagree that they shouldn't 433 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 2: have baseball, but I do know that it's incredibly difficult 434 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: to pitch there and they will never win anything there. 435 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 2: They just don't spend the money. They're they're loyal to 436 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: a fault. Guys don't want to go there. I mean, 437 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 2: look at friggin Chris Bryant. I mean, wow, I'm so 438 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: glad that Dodgers did not sign Chris Bryant. But you know, 439 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 2: and that got that kid was a Golden Spikes Award winner. 440 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: I remember presenting him that that award at Dodger Stadium 441 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 2: when he was coming out of college. Uh, and are 442 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 2: coming in at a high school in Vegas And I 443 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 2: was with MLB Network the first time. So I mean, 444 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: that was a thousand years ago. And it's just amazing 445 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: how how career trajectories can change. But to your point, 446 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 2: I throw any course field outing, but Walker wasn't that, 447 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 2: you know, wasn't himself before pitching at coursefield. So I 448 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: do think he needs a mental reset. I do think 449 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: he needs to work on some things mechanically. That four 450 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 2: seam fastball is not working for him right now. Guys 451 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 2: are hitting it. His breaking stuff isn't there a month, No, 452 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: But you know, maybe a week and change. You know, 453 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: maybe he's on the il for a couple of weeks, 454 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: or maybe you bring him back as long as he's 455 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: still doing baseball activities and he's facing live hitters. 456 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 3: Maybe you bring him back after the All Star Game. 457 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I'm not 458 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 3: I am not. I'm not sold on our starting pitching. 459 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: I haven't been all season. 460 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: It's it's a little concerning for sure, I think we've 461 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: hit that point, and I will I will give you that. 462 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: I think I was more bullish on the starting pitching 463 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: than you were entering the season. I remember us talking 464 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: a bit about this before we even started this show. 465 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: You know, you were relying on a kid coming from 466 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: Japan and hoping he hoping he figured it out. Well, 467 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: he kind of did, but then the injury happened. That's 468 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: the other factor you always got to throw in there. 469 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: And the fact that you know, Tyler Glais now has 470 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: never thrown more than one hundred and twenty one hundred 471 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: and twenty one innings over his you know, over one season. 472 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: That's a big time concern. Gavin Stone has never thrown 473 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: as many innings as he's going to throw this year. 474 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: So at some point you need to worry about or 475 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: wonder if they're going to start tapering back his innings 476 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: a little bit. So it's it's kind of it's decision 477 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 1: making time a little bit for this team. Are they 478 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: going to go out and get somebody, you know, make 479 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: a big splash at the deadline. Brandon Gomes the Dodgers 480 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: GM recently spoke about the idea. You know, he said 481 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: the Yamamoto situation and the Mookie Bets situation does not 482 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: change their thinking as they approached the trade deadline. Of course, 483 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: we know how they choose their words very careful, carefully, 484 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know if that means their plan was 485 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: always to go out and get another starter, or to 486 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: try to go get a short stop. But I feel 487 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: it point right now, one more injury and you're looking 488 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: real You're looking real bad. If October we're starting tomorrow, no. 489 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 2: Doubt, no doubt. I think they need to go out 490 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 2: and get a frontline starter. And I think maybe at 491 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 2: this point, maybe they need to get another infielder, another, 492 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: a third baseman. 493 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: You know. 494 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 2: I don't know, but they are one massive injury away 495 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 2: in their starting rotation from being in a world of 496 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 2: her And I hate to say that because there has 497 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 2: been for years so much depth in our pitching staff. 498 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: But again, everybody needs more pitching, period. Let's get to 499 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: last licks. 500 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 3: This week's pup is Kaya. Look at that baby, she 501 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: was being pampered Clint. 502 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: Her name is Kaya. 503 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: I have to tell you that, unfortunately, black dogs get 504 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: overlooked quite a bit. She is wonderful. She's about a 505 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: year old. She is super healthy, she's wonderful with kids. 506 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: In fact, her foster sister is the one that put 507 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: that little bow on her. 508 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 3: She's great with she's great with other dogs. 509 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: She's about to get Spade on July fifteenth, so she'll 510 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 2: be available for adoption after that, probably end of July. 511 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: If you're interested in learning more about Kaya, hit us 512 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 2: up at Gidriysguardian dot org, or you could hit me 513 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: up slide into my DMS. As the kids say, to 514 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: learn a little bit about Kaya. We have a fan 515 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 2: question about what's that? Yeah, yeah, only about the dogs. 516 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: Don't be don't. 517 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 2: Just start going in there to ask me all kinds 518 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 2: of weird questions about feet. All right, So Kenny Chan 519 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: has this to say, Kei k A and maybe Eroo 520 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 2: tandem looked a bit rough on a couple of plays 521 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 2: got in each other's way, And that's a great point 522 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: that he brings up. Obviously, we were watching the broadcast 523 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: on sports and at LA and it almost seemed like 524 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: they were not communicating enough, or I mean, maybe it's 525 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: because they're both used to playing so many infield positions. 526 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 3: It's like, all right, whose is this? 527 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 2: Even though obviously the shortstops the captain of the infield, 528 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: but it did seem like they're a little at kibogado 529 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 2: you if you want in Spanish. 530 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that it's just two captains kind of 531 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, trying to play two spots. They're not familiar 532 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: playing together. So usually that kind of stuff is is addressed, 533 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: is worked one during spring training. It's the first time 534 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: these two dudes have played those positions together, so I'm 535 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: not terribly worried about it. We saw a lot of 536 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: that earlier in the season two with Taskar Hernandez and 537 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: Andy Pajes. Now, you know, Tao's kind of giving some 538 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: space to Pa has to make some plays. So you're 539 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: feeling feeling pretty good about that situation. But I think 540 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: ke Kere, you know, premium defender, and of course you 541 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: got a gold Glove caliber player. If he can hit, 542 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: he would win a gold Glove. But we know he 543 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: can't always hit to the standards that win you gold gloves, 544 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: because it's it's you know, the voting is stupid on that. 545 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: But that's a whole other topic. I feel about them 546 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: figuring some things out together, if they're going to be 547 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: working together for a while. 548 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is stupid because the Gold Glove Award is 549 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 2: a defensive award. Before we let you go, before we 550 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 2: let our viewers go and our listeners go. Do you 551 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: can about the Angels? Is it a rivalry to you? 552 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 3: Do you care about these next two games? Why are 553 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 3: you giving me that? 554 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: Look? Man, listen, If there's if there's something I hate 555 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: more than coors Field, it's the Angels as an organization. 556 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm gonna keep saying I'm sorry. That's the 557 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: title of this episode. Clint's sorry about something. Hey, nobody 558 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: told me we were drinking for this episode. 559 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 3: Hell Alnaday night. 560 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: This is fair Thursday night. 561 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 3: It's six o'clock in Massachusetts. 562 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: Bro, it's six o'clock in Massachusetts, and I'm off to 563 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: borrow so whatever. 564 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: Wow, wait, you get days off. That's impressive. I'm surprising 565 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: for you. You're a little a little out there, like, 566 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, give me some work. But anyway, No, it's 567 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: not a rivalry. Both teams need to have, you know, 568 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: played each other or be playing for something for it 569 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: to be a rivalry. This is just you know, two 570 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 1: teams that share the five freeway that are meeting up 571 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: at Dodger Stadium for two games and instead of three, 572 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: and the Dodgers have that odd Sunday off day, which 573 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: again you already kind of brought up. But no, not 574 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: a rivalry to me. You have you feel good, It's not. 575 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: A rivalry to me. It hasn't been a rivalry to 576 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: me in a long time. 577 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: It's like I always say, too with the Dodgers and 578 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 2: the Padres, that to me is not a rivalry until 579 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 2: it becomes a lot more balanced. 580 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 3: I mean, I understand pottery is knocked him out of 581 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 3: this postseason last year. I get it. They threw a 582 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 3: parade after I get it. 583 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: Okay, fine, But the point is, I just don't think 584 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: it's a rivalry. I mean, Giants Dodgers, that's a rivalry. 585 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: Yankees Red Sox and that's not even Yankees Red Sox 586 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 2: doesn't even feel obviously it is still a rivalry, but 587 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: there's not as much juice. Although the Red Sox are 588 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 2: one game out, which is amazing of a postseason spot, 589 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 2: I feel like Yankees Orioles is becoming something. 590 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: Oh you got something to say. 591 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: By the way, didn't you say on our production meeting 592 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: that you were going to grab a drink before you 593 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: logged onto the link? 594 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: So I don't. Don't. I grabbed the monster. I say, 595 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: not a sponsored monster. Please sponsor your boy. I have 596 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: put so much money in your pocket over the years. 597 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: But it's funny. I give you crap about drinking and 598 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: I didn't, well, not drinking, but drinking without me and 599 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: the beer fairy just opened the door. And no sponsor. 600 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: But they you know, the Rocky Mountains are blue on 601 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: this can the only Rocky Mountains I like. But I'll 602 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: save that. 603 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 3: And I tell you what. 604 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: The Rockies are blue because they lost again to the 605 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 2: Los Angeles Dodgers. Diane, I thank you, be like Diane Schroeder. 606 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 2: Smash the like button for Clinton. Alana, Yes girl, yes, Diane, 607 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: thank you. 608 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 3: Yes. 609 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 2: Thanks for watching light and subscribe to our new YouTube page, 610 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: and please. 611 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 3: Rate five stars. 612 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: Like and subscribe to Dodger's Territory podcast on Apple, Spotify, 613 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: wherever you get your pods. Clinton and I are back 614 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: on Monday. Enjoy your weekend. Go Dodgers, beat those Angels. 615 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 3: We'll see you next time. 616 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: See seven pm my channel tonight. 617 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Clint's still working. I'll be drinking. 618 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: Bye bye.