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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to will gae F Daily

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<v Speaker 1>with Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording live from our

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<v Speaker 1>pod Stream studios in Times Square. Dear friends, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I go on to Twitter and I'm like just

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<v Speaker 1>waiting waiting for the hashtag Trump indided, waiting for the

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<v Speaker 1>hashtag that is Trump is going to jail and it

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<v Speaker 1>actually be a real thing. We are still waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>that moment, although I feel like it is getting closer.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not going to hold my breath because i

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to pass out and knock my head. But

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<v Speaker 1>dear friends, something interesting has developed from the investigation that

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<v Speaker 1>had been underway by the House Committee on Oversight and Reform.

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<v Speaker 1>They issued a press release that will shock no one

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<v Speaker 1>that paid attention to the four years under Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that he was using the White House

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<v Speaker 1>as essentially a cash cow, the fact that Mara Lago

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<v Speaker 1>was an extension of that place so that he could

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<v Speaker 1>meet with folks that wanted to wine and dine him

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<v Speaker 1>throw money into Mara Lago and throw money into his pockets.

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<v Speaker 1>But when the House Oversight and Reform Committee, run by

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<v Speaker 1>Representative Carolyn Maloney issued this statement, I was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>is that what we're doing? So let me read you

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<v Speaker 1>the title. Committee chairs release new documents showing Mara Lago

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<v Speaker 1>Trio violated transparency law and improperly influenced veterans policies under

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump. Now in small print, lean in to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this. Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, and other White House

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<v Speaker 1>advisors were aware of efforts to skirt the law. Funny

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<v Speaker 1>when I'll tell you exactly how they were skirting the law,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know you'll conjure the memory of what about

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<v Speaker 1>her emails? So here's the statement. Today. Represent Carolyn Maloney,

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<v Speaker 1>Chairwoman of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, and

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<v Speaker 1>Representative Mark Takano, Chairman of the House Committee on Veterans Affairs,

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<v Speaker 1>release new documents showing that Ike Pearl Mutter, Mark Sherman,

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<v Speaker 1>and doctor Bruce Mauskowitz, associates of former President Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>known as the Mara Lago Trio, violated the Federal Advisory

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<v Speaker 1>Committee Act and attempted to exert improper influence over government

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<v Speaker 1>employees and policies involving the Department of Veterans Affairs. Here

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<v Speaker 1>is what the joint statement says. VERBTA, our Joint investigation

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<v Speaker 1>found that Ike Pearl, Mutter, Mark Sherman, and doctor Bruce Maskowitz,

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<v Speaker 1>bolstered by their connection to President Trump's private Moralago Club,

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<v Speaker 1>violated the law and sought to exert improper influence over

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<v Speaker 1>government officials to further their own personal interests. The documents

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<v Speaker 1>we are releasing today shed light on the secret role

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<v Speaker 1>of the trio played in developing veterans affairs initiatives and programs,

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<v Speaker 1>including a hugely profitable plan to monetize veterans medical records.

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<v Speaker 1>The committee's investigation demonstrates the need for Congress to pass

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<v Speaker 1>the Federal Advisory Committee Transparency Act, which would ensure that

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<v Speaker 1>the American people know who is providing advice to federal

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<v Speaker 1>policymakers and would require agencies to disclose whether individuals on

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<v Speaker 1>advisory committees have conflicts of interest. Here's the thing, folks

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<v Speaker 1>about this, is that I am really fucking tired of

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<v Speaker 1>policy initiatives and acts being introduced that are nothing more

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<v Speaker 1>than lip service. What we want is, instead of an

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<v Speaker 1>investigation to get more material, I want a criminal investigation

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<v Speaker 1>into how this trio, among other people in the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>administration were using right their connection to Donald Trump, his

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<v Speaker 1>connection to power in order to enrich themselves. That is

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<v Speaker 1>breaking the fucking law. And yet we're calling for more

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<v Speaker 1>acts so that things like this don't happen. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what stops people from you know, undermining our democracy

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<v Speaker 1>in order to enrich themselves by throwing their asses in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what stops them, not an act like many others

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<v Speaker 1>that the Trump administration officials decided to you know, just ignore.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week, we were told that there were several folks

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<v Speaker 1>Our friend Glenn Kirshner will walk through later in the show,

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<v Speaker 1>will walk through exactly who is being subpoenaed by the

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<v Speaker 1>one six Commission, right and whether or not those people

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<v Speaker 1>are going to show up, because we know that during

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration, these motherfuckers took subpoenas as if they

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<v Speaker 1>were suggestions, as opposed to you know, you needing to

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<v Speaker 1>show up because you are subpoenaed by a court of

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<v Speaker 1>law to make yourselves present. Well, it's not a court

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<v Speaker 1>of law when the subpoenas come from Congress, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is in fact Congress does in fact have the power

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<v Speaker 1>to enforce subpoena by holding people in contempt of Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>And what we will learn from Glenn Kershner also throwing

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<v Speaker 1>their asses in jail. And so here's the thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>need Democrats to stop pretending that holding people accountable and

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for their criminal activity during the Trump administration is

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<v Speaker 1>seen as a partisan act. Republicans are going to call

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<v Speaker 1>you out regardless. They're gonna call everything a hoax, a

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<v Speaker 1>witch hunt, whatever it is that you want to give

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<v Speaker 1>its name, They're going to do that because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they do. So you cannot continue to make movements right

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<v Speaker 1>with regard to accountability and responsibility in fear about whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not Republicans are going to point their finger at

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<v Speaker 1>you and wave. They're going to sit down in these

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote collaboration meetings and then they're going to walk away.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to get up in front of Fox News

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to tell you that you're a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of liars and schemers. They are so obvious with their

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<v Speaker 1>playbook that you would think by now that Democrats in

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<v Speaker 1>power wouldn't pretend like they're shocked. I'm so tired of

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<v Speaker 1>the performative bullshit. I don't need your Transparency Act. I

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<v Speaker 1>need criminal charges brought against fucking criminals, regardless of whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not they are quote unquote white collar crimes. These

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<v Speaker 1>people need to have the book thrown at them and

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<v Speaker 1>not read to them, and admonish them about better behavior

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<v Speaker 1>as government officials. We know what was moving through Mara Lago.

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<v Speaker 1>We know what was fucking moving through the Trump Hotel

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<v Speaker 1>on sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue. We know what the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>was running through the White House. Give me a break.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, good, god damn well, that Republicans would not

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<v Speaker 1>have needed some deep level of research and investigation to

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<v Speaker 1>pull the hot Benghazi shit that they did under the

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<v Speaker 1>Obama years, Right, they just kept hammering and hammering and

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<v Speaker 1>hammering until they were through. Well, when the fuck are

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<v Speaker 1>we going to do that? So I'm hoping that this

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<v Speaker 1>statement that was released is a signal that we are

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<v Speaker 1>moving in the direction of accountability. And again I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, oh, let's pass another act that can just

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<v Speaker 1>be overrode with some type of executive order. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care about those things. What I want is for them

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<v Speaker 1>for this information that is unearthed to be scoop up

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<v Speaker 1>by federal prosecutors and investigated. Right, that's what we need.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is where we are at this particular moment, right,

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<v Speaker 1>now with the investigations, and we will learn more in

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<v Speaker 1>our conversation with Glenn Kirshner about the four Trump entities

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<v Speaker 1>that are now being investigated now are being subpoenaed for

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<v Speaker 1>their role in the insurrection. All right, folks. Coming up

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<v Speaker 1>next is my conversation with our friend Glenn Kirshner, bringing

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<v Speaker 1>us the latest in Trump world. I wish one day

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<v Speaker 1>that we will talk about something else, but until then,

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn is here to walk us through the latest, Folks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always so thankful when we have the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>run through the latest legal breakdowns happening with the former administration,

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<v Speaker 1>with the one six Select Committee, and just you know

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<v Speaker 1>the crazy that continues to funnel through America. Glenn, breaking

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<v Speaker 1>news was that, finally, months after the putting together of

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<v Speaker 1>the one six Select Committee, we have seen now our

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<v Speaker 1>first major round of subpoenas. Six of Trump's closest aids,

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<v Speaker 1>including Steve Badden, including Mark Meadows, have been subpoenas. I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to walk us through one how we finally

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<v Speaker 1>got to this place that you and I have been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about and waiting for for months, but also what

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<v Speaker 1>we can expect because if I recall, none of these

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<v Speaker 1>Republican folks like to, you know, follow the rules, show

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<v Speaker 1>up for subpoenas, and what we have seen thus far

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<v Speaker 1>from Democrats is that they don't actually enforce and use

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<v Speaker 1>the power that they have to the fullest extent. So

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<v Speaker 1>walk us through the announcement of these subpoenas and what

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<v Speaker 1>we can expect in the coming days and weeks. So, Danielle,

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<v Speaker 1>I am the eternal optimist, bordering on being naive or polyganna.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I say that because of what I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>to say, which is that I feel like a kid

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<v Speaker 1>in the justice can be shop with these four With

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<v Speaker 1>these four subpoenas being issued, it doesn't mean justice will

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<v Speaker 1>come soon or ever. But here's why I think these

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<v Speaker 1>four subpoenas are so and I think it maybe four,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe six. I may be wrong about the number. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's why I think they're so important. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>they were issued for you know, Bannon and Meadows and

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<v Speaker 1>Patel and Scavino. These are Donald Trump loyalists, acolytes, sycophants,

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<v Speaker 1>and perhaps criminal associates, co conspirators in the insurrection. That's

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<v Speaker 1>one that's why they're important. But as you say, Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>at least in the age of Trump, view subpoenas as

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<v Speaker 1>like party invitations that you can politely or not so

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<v Speaker 1>politely decline, Yeah, no, thank you very much. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>here's why I think these subpoenas are so important, both

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<v Speaker 1>for who is being subpoenaed and what we're gonna now

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<v Speaker 1>learn about our institutions and our systems of government. Have

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<v Speaker 1>they learned from their mistakes of the past. Are they

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<v Speaker 1>going to be willing to stand up and fight for

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<v Speaker 1>our democracy? Because here's how this is going to play out.

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<v Speaker 1>These people who have been subpoened. First of all, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to claim executive privileged. Trump has already said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to put a stop to this. Going to

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<v Speaker 1>claim executive privilege, the executive privileged dog won't hunt. Here's why. One,

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<v Speaker 1>former presidents don't get to invoke it. Only current presidents

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<v Speaker 1>get to invoke it. And Joe Biden will not invoke

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<v Speaker 1>it because that would be viewed as covering up the

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<v Speaker 1>attack on our democracy. One. Two, guys like Steve Bannon

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't even possibly assert executive privilege because he wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>federal government employee at the time. So that's two. And

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<v Speaker 1>then three, even if they try to assert executive privilege,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd be trying to cover up crimes. And the crime

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<v Speaker 1>fraud exception will negate any claim of executive privilege. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's three reasons why the executive privilege dog won't hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on to the next phase. They're gonna challenge

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<v Speaker 1>these things in court, right even if they start with

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<v Speaker 1>a bogus claim of executive privilege. Now we're gonna learn

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<v Speaker 1>will the courts continue to allow themselves to be weaponized

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<v Speaker 1>so that the people like Don McGann can claim bogus

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<v Speaker 1>privileges and then run out the clock for two years.

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<v Speaker 1>Have the courts learned anything from that experience? Because Danielle,

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<v Speaker 1>the courts don't have to say, Okay, I want briefs

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<v Speaker 1>in three months, and then we're going to have arguments

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<v Speaker 1>three months later, and then I'm going to take three

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<v Speaker 1>months to decide the case. This is why I've been

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<v Speaker 1>screaming for an inter branch dispute court, which can be

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<v Speaker 1>stood up like that, just a rules change within the

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<v Speaker 1>court itself. You want to attack on executive privilege grounds,

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<v Speaker 1>this lawfully issued congressional subpoena. You got two weeks to

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<v Speaker 1>file your brief two weeks later, we're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>oral argument. Two weeks after that, you'll have my ruling

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<v Speaker 1>six weeks done. The courts can do this if the

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<v Speaker 1>courts are willing to learn from their mistakes of the past.

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<v Speaker 1>How about Congress. Will Congress learn from its mistakes of

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<v Speaker 1>the past when they would issue subpoenas lawful subpoenas, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they would refuse to do what they could do

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<v Speaker 1>to enforce them because they can do three things civil

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<v Speaker 1>civil enforcement. That's really not viable because that's the Don McGann.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's run out the clock approach. Criminal contempt. Here's why

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<v Speaker 1>that real player. Why criminal contempt takes the Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Justice to cooperate with Congress. Right, criminal contempt not inherent contempt.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get to that in a minute. When

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<v Speaker 1>Congress can just go out and arrest people, that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite vehicles. We'll get to that. One. Criminal

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<v Speaker 1>contempt is where somebody fails to comply with a subpoena

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<v Speaker 1>and the Department of the Congress makes a referral to

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Justice and asks the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 1>go into court and help us enforce this via criminal contempt.

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<v Speaker 1>Having a judge, say you're in contempt, go cooperate. We

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't do that under the Donald Trump years, with Bill Barr,

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<v Speaker 1>the corrupt Attorney General in power, because he wouldn't let

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Justice do what it is supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Help Congress use the courts to enforce their subpoenas via

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<v Speaker 1>criminal contempt. That is a tool that's back in Congress's toolbox,

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<v Speaker 1>and that can be done fairly quickly, unlike civil enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the third one, which I hope to hell

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<v Speaker 1>Congress uses, is its inherent power to enforce its own

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<v Speaker 1>subpoenas via congressional contempt. It was last done in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirties. It was done successfully, and nobody seems interested

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<v Speaker 1>in pulling that old tool out, dusting it off, and

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<v Speaker 1>using it again. It's a lawful tool, and Congress should

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<v Speaker 1>consider using it. What they have to do is vote

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<v Speaker 1>out a contempt citation against somebody who fails to appear,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they can start finding them ten thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a day, twenty five thousand dollars a day until they

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<v Speaker 1>appear and purge the contempt. That's what it's called. When

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<v Speaker 1>you finally give up the ghosts and go in and testify,

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<v Speaker 1>or they can jail them. They can literally send a

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<v Speaker 1>sergeant at arms of the House out to arrest the

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<v Speaker 1>person and put their butts in the witness chair before Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>Has Congress learned anything by its failures of the past,

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<v Speaker 1>by its undue timidity of the past, Will it enforce

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<v Speaker 1>its own subpoenas aggressively this time around? Because it's only

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<v Speaker 1>our democracy at stake. So that's why I'm so excited,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's an opportunity here to make progress on so

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<v Speaker 1>many fronts, personal and institutional. Let's do it. We're now,

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<v Speaker 1>do we know where the DC District Attorney is? Where

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<v Speaker 1>is the actual Again, we're on a fact finding mission

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<v Speaker 1>with the Select Committee, but where is the actual criminal investigation?

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<v Speaker 1>Because if I see one more damn headline, Glenn, that

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<v Speaker 1>tells me who knew what? That is obvious? Right that

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<v Speaker 1>if Republicans, let's just say, had a quarter of that

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<v Speaker 1>information on the Obama administration or on Benghazi, which they

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<v Speaker 1>tried to turn into a thing, we would be in

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<v Speaker 1>a different place. So where is the criminal investigation that

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<v Speaker 1>should be moving in tandem to what the Select Committee

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<v Speaker 1>is doing? It is moving in tandem I believe, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're not supposed to know about it, because nobody's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be talking about the criminal end of the insurrection

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<v Speaker 1>case being investigated by the Department of Justice and most directly,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty federal prosecutors at the DC US Attorney's Office. These

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<v Speaker 1>are my friends, colleagues, some of my former homicide prosecutors,

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<v Speaker 1>some people I tried cases with when I was there.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the men and women heading up the insurrection investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixty prosecutors are assigned to it. I believe the investigation

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<v Speaker 1>is moving forward, albeit behind the scenes so we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about it. But two days ago, Christopher Ray, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a fan, but Christopher Ray, director of the FBI,

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<v Speaker 1>testified before the Homeland Security Committee, and this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>flew under the radar, but Scott McFarland of NBC DC

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<v Speaker 1>four News tweeted it out. Yesterday, Ray testified that there

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<v Speaker 1>are more superseding indictments on the way in the January

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<v Speaker 1>sixth investigation. That's big news. Frankly, he probably shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>said it, because we typically don't say things like that

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<v Speaker 1>as law, but it was an important little sound bite

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<v Speaker 1>because when he says more superseding indictments are on the way.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean more foot soldiers of the insurrection are

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<v Speaker 1>being arrested. A superseding indictment is a term of art,

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<v Speaker 1>legal art, so it's the ugliest kind of art, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a term of art. A superseding indictment means basically,

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<v Speaker 1>you are going to return a bigger, more inclusive, more

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<v Speaker 1>serious indictment on more significant charges than what you have

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<v Speaker 1>already had the Grand jury vote out. You're building on

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<v Speaker 1>it in a significant way. It doesn't just mean we're

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<v Speaker 1>locking up ten more foot soldiers. So stay tuned, because

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe that this work is being done quietly

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<v Speaker 1>by the Department of Justice. I also will go out

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<v Speaker 1>on a limb and say, when Congress issued these subpoenas,

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<v Speaker 1>Congress is already in at least communication with the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice on the timing and the logistics of these

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of things, because I don't think Congress wants to

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<v Speaker 1>interfere with the ongoing criminal investigation, which frankly, in my book,

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<v Speaker 1>is more important than the congressional investigation. Right the congressional

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<v Speaker 1>investigation is designed to figure out, Okay, who knew what,

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<v Speaker 1>who did what? How can we prevent it from happening

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<v Speaker 1>again in the future, But they can't hold people accountable criminally.

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<v Speaker 1>Only the Department of Justice can. So I think the

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<v Speaker 1>dj peece is more important for the future of our

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<v Speaker 1>democracy because really, you know, Mark Meadows runs his mouth

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<v Speaker 1>and he only seems to open his mouth to change

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<v Speaker 1>feet because he's always sticking a foot in his mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he said, wait a minute. You know these

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<v Speaker 1>subpoenas are out of bounds because the House Select Committee

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<v Speaker 1>is only supposed to be in investigating you know what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>what were the security shortfalls, and how can we prevent

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<v Speaker 1>them from happening again, to which I would respond, Okay, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>the way we figure out what happened and the way

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<v Speaker 1>we prevent it from happening again is by prosecuting the

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<v Speaker 1>people who were responsible for it the first time, so

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<v Speaker 1>you deter future criminal politicians and criminal presidents from doing

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<v Speaker 1>it again. That's how you stop it from happening again.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think d OJ is working on it, albeit

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes. We shouldn't be hearing about it, even

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<v Speaker 1>though we all celebrate the leaks when they come out.

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<v Speaker 1>So I still believe. Let me go back to where

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<v Speaker 1>I started being naive, maybe, Pollyanna, I still believe we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get there. You can't investigate the biggest gang

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<v Speaker 1>case in the history of our nation, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>gang that attacked the capital, without investigating the funders and

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<v Speaker 1>the organizers and the insiders, including the insider in chief.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't take it from me. I've investigated big gang cases.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't ignore or parcel out that piece of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all the attack on the Capitol. And I happen

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<v Speaker 1>to believe DJ is going to get there because I

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<v Speaker 1>have confidence in the leadership. No, Merrick Garland hasn't shown

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<v Speaker 1>himself to be a strong, aggressive leader the hope the

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<v Speaker 1>way we had hoped. But I trust Lisa Monica the

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<v Speaker 1>number two, and I trust Merrick Garland. I trust Lisa

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<v Speaker 1>Monica the number two. I trust Nita Gupta, I trust

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<v Speaker 1>Kristen Clark. These are strong, solid, law and order oriented

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<v Speaker 1>women and in Merrick Garland's case, men who are heading

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<v Speaker 1>up our Department of Justice. I have confidence in them.

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