WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Backs To The Wall Again? 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:05.200 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:16.520 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:20.439 training live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:31.800 Star in Frisjo. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought Us, 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:36.640 Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones, and it is time for 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:40.560 another edition of Talking Cowboys as we get you set 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:44.800 for perhaps a division clinching win against the Tampa Bay 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:49.920 Buccaneers on Sunday at noon at at and T Stadium. 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.640 Mickey Spagnola will be along shortly. He's getting grilled on 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:56.680 the radio right now. You're gonna assume I'm Bill Jones. 0:00:56.680 --> 0:01:00.440 Brian brought Us is here, Rob Phillips is here. And 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.800 how are you guys doing? They weren't bad this morning. No, 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:06.720 Actually ask some good questions, r J chopping. You pay 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:09.039 attention a little bit better to the line of questioning 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.640 when your co host ask a question, You listen to 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.080 what the co host asks, and then you don't ask 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:19.360 the same question thirty seconds later. Yeah, sometimes we'll get distracted. 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.319 Let me ask you this real quick about Bill. You prefect. 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:26.920 You guys, professional broadcaster type guys. When you interview people, 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:30.400 do you honestly listen to their responses. Are you formulating 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:34.200 another question in your head? You are supposed to be listening. 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:38.960 That's that's that's what I thought. That's what the drill 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.880 was all because sometimes your next question cannot not be 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:43.760 what you have in your head, but based off of 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.000 what the answer is that you just got, you could 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:50.040 come up with something else. Great interviewers will say the 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:54.560 greatest aspect of interviewing is listening. That's what I thought. 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.480 That's what I thought. When you get a red zone 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.240 question and you answer the red zone question, and then 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.720 you get another red zone question behind it, basically the 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.800 same question. That's not listening? Is it? Maybe like your answer? No? Maybe, 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.120 you know, I mean, you know, he should have liked 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.680 the pause I had for thirty seconds. That pause made 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:14.720 him feel a little uncomfortable. Right, did you call him 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.240 on it by pausing? I think I did. I didn't 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.200 want to call him out on the air. Yeah, but 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.120 I'm just I just wanted you wait till now. I AW. 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:24.919 That's what I'm saying. When you when you answer, when 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:28.200 you answer questions, or you're interviewing somebody, you listen to 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.359 what they're saying, right, And then you'd, like you said, 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.640 you try and formulate maybe there needs to be a 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.440 follow up from that question. Sure, maybe there needs to 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.040 be something. Maybe you wanted to take it in another direction. 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.000 But then you turn around and you say, whoa wait 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:42.320 a minute, I was going to go this way, but 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:45.440 he brought something up very interesting here, or she brought 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.560 something up very interesting here, and you have to find 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.840 a way to kind of navigate that. I think that 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:55.520 two times nowadays that did we just you get as 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.560 an interview you get questions and you just feel like 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.440 I have to ask these questions instead of instead of 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.799 really trying. One of the best interviewers I've ever heard 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.000 is Howard Stern. Yeah, Howard Stern's great the way he 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:09.120 interviews people because he gets people to open up about themselves, 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.520 which I think is great. We're just talking about you, 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.720 Mickey having to probably answer the same question over and 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:17.040 over again from r J. Chappey. R J did better 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:20.399 in my segment. What was the question? Yours was red zone? 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:23.120 Red zone question? Yeah? Yeah, are you just kind of 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.720 tired of talking about the red zone too? Because I 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.520 feel like, no, not really, not really, because it's it's 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:30.639 a problem. It is it's a problem, and it might 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.560 be the one thing that that them from from going 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:37.160 places if if not, I always give Mickey credit for this. 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.160 I don't always give Mickey credit, but I'll give him 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.800 credit for this. He identified the offensive line issues a 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.440 long time ago. You know when they were before there 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.880 were three and five that there were there. There were 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.560 there were issues there, and you thought, okay, changed the coach, 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.000 made some things better. You won five games. But the 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:55.720 issues there are, the issues that we've talked about in 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.680 before the three and five start are still there. And 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.720 you know what, protection and you know what, running the ball. 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:08.160 The biggest problem is not failure. It's the inability to 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:13.000 trust to call plays that you would call him absolutely 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.599 right because you self scout and you're going, okay, I 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.200 could call this, but I just don't have a lot 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:20.839 of confidence and maybe I have to. Why do you 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.640 on fourth and one at the three yard line call 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.039 a running play. You tried to run it away from 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.479 the straight You tried to fool them. You tried to 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.480 fool them because you didn't trust you. What you did 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:32.720 was you ran the ball to the side of sue A. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.640 Philo at Smith feeling like that they were going to 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.600 slant away and then you can maybe better better. Question is, okay, 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.160 here we go. Why don't you just kicked the field 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.640 goal then? Because you needed a touchdown? Yeah, you know 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.440 you say they needed a touchdown. If I thought you 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:54.720 kicked field goal, was a coward because I know what 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:57.520 you're you're saying. But yeah, because of the opponent, I 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.840 didn't think the Colts were going to score a lot 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:02.760 of points in that game, and so you didn't as 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.760 opposed to when you're playing the Eagles or the Saints, 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:10.760 typically they're going to score more points in my mind anyway, okay, 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.560 and so, and I feel I trust my defense whatever, 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.200 so kicked. Yeah. Yeah, it's disappointing that olawally dropped the 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.279 ball and you had a touchdown in your hand, But 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:22.359 in my opinion that early in the game, kicked the 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.560 field Go get your and so that when you're you're 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.120 not down ten nothing at the half, rather it's a 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.640 ten three game at the half, and then you would 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:34.160 have been down seventeen. Well but yeah, but still I've 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:37.320 saw several games this year, and in fact, it was 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.480 whoever it was playing Kansas City, I can't remember who 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:45.120 the opponent was, and they were going forward all the 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.240 time on fourth Then, now that's that goes against what 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:48.840 I'm saying. It's Kansas City is going to score a 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:50.880 lot of points. Yeah, but they lost that game because 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.440 they kept going forward on fourth down. Whoever it was, 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.960 I can't remember, and it wasn't a Pittsburgh It was 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.320 in the first half of the game. I'm on, somebody, 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.800 wait a second, Okay, had you kicked field goals to 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.840 make it to get six points on those two possessions, 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.279 you wouldn't be down fourteen nothing at the half, will 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.200 be a one score game. It was a long one 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.719 yard it looked like. But we've given Jason Garrett credit 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.080 for knowing the condition of his team. We talked about 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.480 the overtime game in Philly, and if you look at here, 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.640 I wasn't surprised at all. We went for it even 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:22.760 though they had trouble again down there, because early in 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.520 that drive, Zeke six yards, Zeke twenty four yards, Zeke 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.880 seven yards, they were moving the ball. I thought he 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.400 felt like he could get a yard on that drive. 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:33.840 The way they would at least get a yard to 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:35.760 get a first down, to get four more downs. Now 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.720 why they felt like they decided they needed to, you know, 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.159 run kind of trick play with Olawally on third down 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.719 instead of running Zeke again. I don't know. Maybe it 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.080 was the look, you know, did he tweet out something 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.080 that there Bobby Belt. I think Bobby Belt tweeted out 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.240 something that the Cowboys have only rushed like for sixteen 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:56.600 yards in our four yards and sixteen red zone. It 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.200 was I kind of wish I need to pull it 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.040 and see that. Okay, I need to pull up. But 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.240 he had something. Bobby does a lot of research on 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.320 this stuff. He went back and looked at it. The 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.719 number of yards that they've rushed for down in that 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:12.200 situation is small, very small compared to how they usually 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.080 how they usually handle things down right. See. I think 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.680 if it was if it was fourth and one, yeah, 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.800 the twelve yard line, they would have kicked the field 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:23.520 goal and he got a five yard gain to the 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.280 differences that make three yard line because you were at 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:29.400 the three yard line and you needed one yard for 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.960 a first down. Well, if you're fourth and one at 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.080 the twelve, you still need one yard for a first down. 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.400 I know, but you're right there next to the goal. 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:40.400 You got to score a touchdown, Yeah, I just think 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.520 in that situation, I think I think we're just going 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.520 forward on fourth down all the time. Now, No, I 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.680 don't think so. Yeah, And I think what I'm seeing 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.120 looks like we're just going every time fourth and one, 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.960 we're going forward against that bill in that case, I was. 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.840 It depends on the situation, depends on how Maybe he's 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.280 tired of being criticized for nine being aggressive. I don't 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.440 think he cares about that. I think I really don't. 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.920 He does not think it comes down to is it 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:10.800 a yard as in half a yard, a couple of inches? 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.040 Is it a yard and a half? Okay, here you 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:15.760 go ahead, humor me if you made Bobby Bell, he 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.400 works with the he's a producer with the NFL network. 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.520 He said the Cowboys as a team have have four 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.360 yards rushing on sixteen red zone carries over the last 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:30.320 three weeks. I don't know. I thought it was gold 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.200 and gold. Maybe it's goal to go. Okay, you know 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:33.640 he got it. They got a five yard game on 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.480 second now three, well, goal to go? Well, well that 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:38.120 would not be This was not goal to go. But 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.080 it was a yard. No, that's right, Yeah, it wasn't. 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.000 What I mean, I saw. I'm thinking like, oh wow, 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.320 that sounds like but but doesn't that kind of play 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.720 into what we've talked about though? We all like to say, oh, okay, 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.440 load up and run the ball. And this isn't twenty 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:55.200 sixteen anymore. You know, you got the back, but you 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.320 know I have the offensive line, right, Mickey's right again, 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.839 I think the trust factor there. And I'm not saying 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.960 he doesn't trust tyrants. I'm just saying, though, when you 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:06.920 start calling plays the way they have there there, it's 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.720 got to creep into your mind, like I've okay, I've 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.360 got to run this thing. Yeah, I get in thirteen personnel, 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.120 I've got to run it to left. He ran it 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:18.080 to who he thought his best two blockers were, Sue 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:22.520 Philo and and and Smith and and and and Jason Garrett. 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.960 I've admitted this thing's got muddied up over there. And 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.640 then all of a sudden, you know, the Maruts, Marut Hunt, 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.439 Marcus Hunt makes a great play out of backdoor read, 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.320 you know, and and yeah, that's you're gonna have problems, 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.200 but it's it's there's a lot going on, and you 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.160 know there's a lot going and I just I just 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.280 hope I just hope that it when if they can 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.360 get in the playoffs. It's not gonna be the offensive 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.920 lines in ability down in the red zone or goal 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.199 to goal or protection, you know, but it will be. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.000 But you're you're right, Mickey, it will be all that said. 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.720 This is my question. You've still got a rushing attack 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:00.559 that's fourth in the league. You STI got the leading 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.120 rush from twenty to the twenty five to the twenty five? 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:06.559 What makes it so different down there? You think? I mean, 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:11.280 what just the space the loaded up fronts that you're space, 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:15.080 they don't create the next space. If you're the defensive coordinator, 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:19.840 what do you bet nine? When I set my defense 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.920 for fourth and one at the three yard line? What 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.960 do you bet nine? Ball a handoff of Ezekiel? And 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.960 that's where I'm setting my defense. Yeah, and now you've 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.920 got to be better to knock more people off in 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:36.480 a short zone there, short field or do you have 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:40.880 to in order to beat that run a different play? Yeah? 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:45.360 Next time. Let me ask you this though. Do you 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:47.240 think the fact that they can't run the ball down 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.440 there is because they can't throw the ball either. That's 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.640 what I mean that you don't have so dependent. Should 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.640 listen to your answer. My bet they are so dependent 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.240 down there on four and twenty one did in the 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.680 end zone? Did it? They had no other option, and 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.319 no one else has really stepped up and said, Hey, 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.640 I'm the guy, throw me a back shoulder fate up 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:10.160 catching No. Eighty eight, eighty two, Yeah, no eighty three. 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:12.520 Remember eighty three kind of was a small area player 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:13.920 there too, and he used to play. But if you 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:15.720 complete a couple of those, to your point, then the 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.480 next time they've got to think that in the back 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.559 of their mind that's an option and maybe that box 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:22.360 is a little bit. They haven't proven that they can 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:25.480 do that, So just load up, because wasn't it against 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:29.800 Philadelphia they tried to run the quarterback draw and yeah, work, yeah, 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.439 they tried to help. Yeah, they lost four on a 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.520 handoff and before I mean, well they got stuffed. You're right, 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:37.080 that was the play they ran. They got minus four. 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:39.280 You're right, the quarterback what quarterback draw was like the 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.400 read option stuff they tried to run. Remember he got 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.320 he got stuffed on that one. So yeah, they're they're 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:50.400 they're woes. I think is more offensive line, clearly, play selection, 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:55.080 clearly execution clearly, you know, but they've got the opponent 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.839 this week where they that they're awful down there. Yes, 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:02.800 maybe that's the time that could be it. If they 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:06.240 don't score against this crowd ride here down there, then 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:09.920 just pack it up. Okay, that's funny that you mentioned that. 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:11.800 I was going to bench of that off the top. 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.400 I was talking to a friend this morning and they 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:17.880 basically said that same type thing was, well, if you 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:19.599 can't beat these guys, you don't deserve to be in 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.480 the NFL. You know. I'll tell you what though, that 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:24.840 there were people that will admit that to you though, 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.679 if you know, you go intose games and that's I 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:31.760 always say the Strange Lady, But that's what I was. 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:33.880 My answer to this person is you kind of look 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.760 at it and you go, I wouldn't be surprised they 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.439 lost this game. Hey, I mean, just you're looking at me. Funny, Rob, 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.120 I know, but I mean, would you it's not all right? 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.120 I'm not do I not subscribe to the Strange Lady 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:49.320 theory the vice president of the Strange Yes, I want 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:51.480 fifty percent on T shirt sales, you got it, because 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:55.360 especially against this bunch Jamis Winston. Yeah, he'll turn it over, 0:12:55.440 --> 0:13:01.080 but he can Mike Evans of offense like they did 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.160 against the Redskins. That's crazy. They were up at fourteen 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.520 three on the Saints. They can't beat the Saints. They 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:12.640 can't possibly lose the Tennessee. Jacksonville's Jacksonville. You can't beat Jacksonville. 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:14.520 You can't go to Atlanta and hold him under thirty one? 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.480 Can't you? How many times if we've seen this where 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:20.920 everybody's on one side of the room, you know, so, yeah, absolutely, 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.120 you got to be ready for this team because they 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.200 can move the ball and they can put themselves like 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.520 the Cowboys, in position to score points. All right. It's 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:31.319 one thing though for fans or media to say, what 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.720 we're talking about here? How much do the coaches have 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:37.800 to convince the players not to be thinking in that 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.440 same way that this is this is Tampa Bay. They're fine, 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:44.360 you know your attention, You get your attention, that that 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.600 looking past somebody whatever. And I don't think they did 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:52.439 with Indianapolis. But if you're you don't. If they come 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.360 out and say no, we're just got to focus on it, 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.280 you better damn well know what what's in front of 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:00.760 you right now. None of us want to I sound 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:06.440 so whiny right now. What he had he had one 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:11.880 more padded practice to use, and he used And you 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:15.240 think that meant something we need to get back to 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:20.240 plan physical football. They pulled out the blocking sled there 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.640 on their knees, popping up, hitting the pads, the other 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:28.080 single sled pad thing for the linebackers they were hitting that. 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:30.880 I think he wanted to remind him we got to 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:34.480 get back to hitting. Uh. And and maybe they backed 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:38.440 off the week before, and not because it was Indianapolis, 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:41.160 it was because they had just played an overtime game, 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:45.280 thirteen to ten game that they had to grind through 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.560 to win three games eleven days before that, five games 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.200 in twenty five days. Yeah, I want to do it 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.280 that way. I think they I think it caught up 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.760 with them. I think they exhaled. They just they just okay, 0:14:55.760 --> 0:15:00.360 well sound soft right now? No, No, no, we sound yeah, 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.720 you sound I mean you would just hope that they 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:05.760 was so much on the line to go try and 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.160 get this thing at Indianapolis that they would have played better. 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.760 They didn't. They didn't play they didn't. But Mickey, to 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:14.280 your point, Yeah, if it takes rolling out the old crowd, 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.960 or sled and knocking it around a little bit. I'm 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.880 all for it. I'm all for anything to try and 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.160 get you back to what you did for five weeks 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.000 when your season was on the line every week. I'm 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:28.080 all for that. It might didn't just needed a reminder. Yeah, 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.480 and they used it because they ain't no more padded practices. Yeah, 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.240 they'll get one of the getting this playoffs, so he'll 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:35.600 use that, right, yep, yep. But what do you have 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.640 to do to get that at next padded practice? You 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.520 gotta go win. Yes, I'll tell you this though. I mean, 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.080 you do not want to have to go to New York. 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:47.080 Rob Phillips, You're right about that. We've seen Division games 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.440 up there. Yeah, you do not want it. They're playing better. 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.560 The first time this team played in New York, it 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.320 was like, how many games is New York gonna win 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.800 this year? Give them credit because they fought back and 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:00.600 give and let like one of the teams lose, like 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:04.280 Philadelphia or Washington. Washington plays on Saturday, Yeah, and they 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.560 they'll be sitting there going, oh, if we win one, 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:13.200 we won't be in last place. Yeah, what times the 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:15.800 time time as a cowboy, Houston's playing for a lot too. 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.520 They got the second seed on the line. You know 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.520 that's that Philly, right, that Philly. Yeah, But I'm with Brian. 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.840 You just gotta win this game. He said it too. 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.440 We gotta take everything. Nothing's gonna be given to act 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:30.320 gets the Wall game. But you say that said back 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:33.400 against the Wall, he said, must win, must win, or 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:37.440 the other did because yeah, why not? It's because the 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.200 other part of this. Okay, Yeah, you can clinch the 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:43.600 division if both the Eagles and the Redskins lose a game. 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.840 But I mean, if you're going into the playoffs with 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.440 an idea that you're going to have some success in 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.880 the playoffs, You're not going in with three straights and 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.680 having success in the playoffs. You gotta streak into the playoffs. 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.760 Tom Landry, you gotta you gotta nip this thing in 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:02.400 the bud right now, using all the old Old Man 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.480 sings here the Old Man show, getting after the Old 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.159 Man said into the play that's party five. Nipp it, 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.439 nipp it, nipping, nip it in the bud right now, 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.639 and get back off track against Jampa Bay. You're an 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.200 Andy Griffith fan, aren't you. You gotta be an Andy 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.600 Griffith's born in nineteen eighty. It doesn't matter. There was 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:27.720 a runs. My sons in law, they're nineteen, my grant, 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.640 my grandsons sitting they're watching Andy Triiffith. He's two years 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.000 old and watch all of the family every night. I 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:36.680 know the whistling open theme, but that's it. That's the 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:40.639 LB with this every day. No, I love it. You 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.639 saw my tweet the other night. It's for him. I 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.679 wasn't missed it. It was from Grumpy old Man and 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:51.480 it was just with him, just going huh, yeah, what huh. 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:53.840 It's like, oh, this is my life from nine thirty 0:17:54.320 --> 0:18:00.359 thirty every day mainly with this one. Yeah, I love 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:03.120 vainly with this one. He threw us under the bus. 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:06.200 It was really for him. Yeah, it was. Yeah, should 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.880 have been with us last night. That's right. We had 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.200 Mike Singletary. Oh is that good Boys legend show? What 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.280 a great Cowboys legend? Mike single t there it is 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.359 Ki Ki Garrison comes and only a few of us 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:21.040 could go down memory lane with Mike Singletary. I watched 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:25.879 him playing college Baylor. Yeah, great player, great, great college player. 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:27.960 For some reason, he didn't remember talking to me in 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.320 the locker room in Chicago. For some reason, I don't 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.920 know why I couldn't see it. Now it was a 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:41.080 one on one. He can see everything with those eyes. Guys, 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.359 what a what a great guy. Yeah, that was fun 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.280 last night and he is, Uh, you can find it 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:51.520 whenever it gets posted on Dallas Cowa dot com. Well, 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:56.360 but he is the head football coach at Trinity Christian 0:18:56.760 --> 0:19:01.080 Academy and Addison High School, a private school here, and 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.520 he doubles up and he's going to be the head 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:07.800 coach of the Memphis Express of the Alliance of American Football, 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:11.520 which kicks off training camp in a matter of days. Wow, 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:13.800 next month, and they kick off the season right after 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:17.000 the Super Bowl. Good luck to those guys. Yeah, February tenth. 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.600 Maybe it's a Sunday after the week after the Super blows. See, 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:21.800 there's no break. And in fact, they've got a national 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.840 TV contract with CBS Sports Network, so you can watch 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.199 those games right after you watch the Super Bowl on 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:30.199 CBS and then the next week CBS Sports Network. You 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:33.800 can keep track of what's going on. Racing season, guys, 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:38.000 racing season. That's when it starts. The Daytona of the 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:42.600 week after bow. Yeah. Absolutely skiing season. All right, we 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:44.720 got much to get into. We want to take your 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.760 phone calls. We got breaking news out of New England. 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:51.600 We will get shots well when we continue on talking 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:55.200 Cowboys in just a moment. Selor has been helping Cowboys 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:57.520 fans set better since nineteen seventy two. 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