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Speaker 7: Welcome to money making Conversation. I am your host, Rashan McDonald.

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Speaker 7: Please welcome to Money Making Conversations. Tracy macmillan. Hello, Well, Tracy,

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Speaker 7: you're fantastic looking individual, you're chrismatic, you command the screen,

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Speaker 7: and you are a writer.

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Speaker 7: because when you write, you tend to be by yourself

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Speaker 7: she almost I won't use the word disappears, but she

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Speaker 7: kind of like goes into the fabric of the show.

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Speaker 7: She sets to everything else and everything. So we allow

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Speaker 7: ourselves to see the problem. We allow ourselves to see

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Speaker 7: the couples work through the problems, and we allow ourselves

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Speaker 7: to find out maybe they are the problem. And that's

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Speaker 7: part of what this show is about because we're not

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Speaker 7: trying to point a finger. That's what That was my

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Speaker 7: greatest takeaway of your show, Tracy, you know, which is

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Speaker 7: a family of fiance which is on own network, is

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Speaker 7: that you're not here to be You're wrong, you're right,

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Speaker 7: but the resolved issues that make this couple last a

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Speaker 7: long time. And that's the purpose to getting married. You

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Speaker 7: don't get married to get a divorce. You get married

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Speaker 7: to you know, to death do its part. That is

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Speaker 7: the premise of marriage. So talk about am I missing

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Speaker 7: the points of of what you're trying to do in

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Speaker 7: the show.

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Speaker 12: It and I think that's part of my approach to

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Speaker 12: relationship coaching is that I already know from being.

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Speaker 11: A girlfriend, you know, being just the FX with people.

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Speaker 12: Nobody can tell anybody anything, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 12: No one ever changed their behavior in a relationship because

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Speaker 12: their friends said, girl, you're going down the wrong path.

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Speaker 11: That's not how it works.

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Speaker 12: How it works is you allow people to come to

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Speaker 12: their own conclusion. You give them the dignity of their

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Speaker 12: own process, and you just hold up the mirror and

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Speaker 12: you hold a space.

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Speaker 11: It's almost like parenting.

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Speaker 3: You hold a space for this person.

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Speaker 12: Who has decided to come on the show, so you know,

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Speaker 12: the willingness is there at some level, and you let

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Speaker 12: what is inside of them pull them across the finish line,

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Speaker 12: pull them into the change. Not me being sassy, you

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Speaker 12: know what I'm saying that I'm just a facilitator. The

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Speaker 7: We know the interesting fun part After you use the

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Speaker 7: that we get to see. Is that just to see

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Speaker 7: you punch them in the face. And that's a black

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Speaker 7: reality show. They talk you fault, you know, Jerry Springer

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Speaker 7: Springer on black steroids. That's where our reality shows work.

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Speaker 7: And so you're being invited into this environment. Did you

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Speaker 7: have any any questions about what type of what type

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Speaker 7: of premise we're doing with this because you're not going

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Speaker 12: I mean, I could tell from the first meeting with

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Speaker 11: About, what Oprah Winfrey is about.

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Speaker 12: It's like we were here for what is highest in people.

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Speaker 12: I'm here for what's highest in me. I want the

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Speaker 12: couples to be here for what's highest in themselves and

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Speaker 12: each other and the families. So that's the space I'm holding.

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Speaker 12: That doesn't mean people aren't going to act outrageous at times.

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Speaker 12: They that's how people are because people are, you know, humans,

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Speaker 12: They do that, But we're not sitting here. That's not

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Speaker 12: the level that we're resting in. That's just a place

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Speaker 12: people sometimes go. But I'd say that our show people grow,

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Speaker 12: people heal, and it's real. The look in their eyes

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Speaker 12: when we take the family photo. At the very end

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Speaker 12: we do the blessing ceremony that we go outside, immediately

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Speaker 12: take the family photo, and the look that they give

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Speaker 12: me is always, even if the relationship fell apart, even

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Speaker 12: if things didn't get fully resolved, the look in their eyes,

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Speaker 12: whether it's family or the couples.

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Speaker 11: Is thank you. And I always want to say, it's

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Speaker 11: not me. I'm just a channel. I'm just here. You

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Speaker 11: did the work.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 7: My background was stand up coming. I started out a

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Speaker 7: stand up comedy and when I look at you, I'm

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Speaker 7: almost you know, because she's Tracy mcwell. She has a

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Speaker 7: very popular ted ex she did called with the Person

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Speaker 7: You Really Need to Marry. It was wildly with, wildly

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Speaker 7: viral and you can find it a lit Tracy McMillan

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Speaker 7: And when and watching that, I felt like I was

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Speaker 7: watching a monologue. I felt like I was watching without

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Speaker 7: the jokes. Now you know you know this, but it

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Speaker 7: felt like I was being entertained and carrying on a journey.

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Speaker 7: That's what great comedians do, whether you're Dave Chaparral or

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Speaker 7: Steve Harvey or Chris Rock. They tell a story and

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Speaker 7: take you on a journey, and even talking to you now,

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Speaker 7: I feel myself being caught up into the mystique, the

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Speaker 7: aura of Tracy McMillan. What is that Tracy before we

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Speaker 7: rap up? What is that about you? You? You know

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Speaker 7: it's real, you know it's real. Come on, I don't know.

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Speaker 11: You know what my dad would say, it's the McMillan chime.

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Speaker 12: I've heard him say that. He's like, it's that McMillan chime.

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Speaker 12: Not necessarily about me.

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Speaker 7: He's probably talking about himself, right, But you do have

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Speaker 7: you do have an it, you would have a factor, correct.

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Speaker 13: I don't know.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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Speaker 12: One time twenty five thirty years ago, I was in

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Speaker 12: New York and I was I was living in New

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Speaker 12: was a roommate situation.

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Speaker 11: And this girl, I'll.

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Speaker 12: Never forget it, she said to me, after like ten

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Speaker 12: minutes of visiting, she goes, You're a star.

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Speaker 13: And I remember.

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Speaker 11: Thinking, what is she talking about? You know, because that

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Speaker 11: is not how I saw myself.

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Speaker 12: But it's interesting that I remember that, And so I'm

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Speaker 12: willing to be a star if it's here. I'm here

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Speaker 12: to use whatever right for the good and if that's

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Speaker 12: you know, I feel like I know my purpose. And

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Speaker 12: sometimes I say, you know what, I wasn't going to

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Speaker 12: be on TV, but God gave me TV hair, and.

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Speaker 11: So you just have to surrest itout you have and

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Speaker 11: be like, all right, I'm here.

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Speaker 7: TV saying you got a lot going on there. Tracy mcmiller,

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Speaker 7: I want to say this about you. Thank you for

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Speaker 7: coming on the show. You also a star. You know,

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Speaker 7: you do have the r R. You do have the

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Speaker 7: IT factor and more important to the host of a

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Speaker 7: hit you on on called Family of Fiance, you're wonderful.

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Speaker 7: Remember every six months, we're gonna do our checking in trades,

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Speaker 7: all right, every six months because you're wonderful. Continue to

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Speaker 7: write on those dramas and changing the game and actually

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Speaker 7: changing the game of television. You are a This is

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Speaker 7: a positive word. You are a beast. And the key

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Speaker 7: to your success is you said it. I work hard,

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Speaker 7: and you our work people and everybody I've known who's

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Speaker 7: a very top of their game star, that's the same

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Speaker 7: thing they say over and over. You're not gonna our workman.

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Speaker 7: You can talk to Kevin Hard. You're not gonna out

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Speaker 15: Welcome back to Money Making Conversations with your host, Rashawn McDonald.

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Speaker 7: My next guest is doctor Tapitha Car. Indeed, she's the

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Speaker 7: Our interviews about following your dreams that leads to a

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Speaker 7: For the first time, I feel like I've known that

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Speaker 7: I was kind of you know, one thing I've learned now,

655
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Speaker 7: when you eat something that good, you shouldn't like immediately

656
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Speaker 7: going to introducing someone. So in between between certain sentences,

657
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Speaker 7: I was just getting that that nice taste was just

658
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Speaker 7: rushing through my mouth. And so I want to apologize

659
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Speaker 7: to anybody going Rachade doesn't sound like he normally sounds,

660
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Speaker 7: so he introduces people. Well, I was enjoying Good Girl chocolate.

661
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Speaker 7: That was all in my mouth. It was all in

662
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Speaker 7: my system, and I'm having a good time. I apologize.

663
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Speaker 7: I apologize to everybody who's watching and to everybody who's listening.

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Speaker 7: I have some come to Good Girl chocolate, and that's

665
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Speaker 7: a good thing. By the way.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 19: Hey, you're not the first one, and you are not

668
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Speaker 19: the first one to taste Good Girl chocolate and absolutely

669
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Speaker 19: loved it.

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Speaker 11: I'm thrilled that you like it.

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Speaker 7: Well, I am thank you for sending me something. This

672
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Speaker 7: is another packaging that she sent me. But I was

673
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Speaker 7: dining on this because the whole brownie batter and this,

674
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Speaker 7: this is the sweetest item that you make right here?

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Speaker 3: Correct it is? It is.

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Speaker 19: I started out making seventy percent dark chocolate, and that's

677
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Speaker 19: not your average grocery story dark chocolate because folks can

678
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Speaker 19: claim dark chocolate and have sixty percent sugar in it.

679
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Speaker 19: So I have real seventy percent dark chocolate. And what

680
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Speaker 19: I found is some people like a semisweet, some people

681
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Speaker 19: like are really sweet.

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Speaker 3: So I go from seventy percent.

683
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Speaker 19: All the way down to thirty four percent cacao, so

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Speaker 19: I can bless everyone's palate absolutely.

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Speaker 7: You know the whole thing about it. When you put

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Speaker 7: the word vegan in front of anything, people tend to

687
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Speaker 7: run off or tend to think it doesn't taste the same,

688
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Speaker 7: or it doesn't it's not going to taste as good.

689
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Speaker 7: And right now this is like this is began based,

690
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Speaker 7: gluten free, dairy free, and free. Talk about being able

691
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Speaker 7: to deliver something I'm eating right now that tastes so

692
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Speaker 7: very good, but also overcoming the stigma that if you

693
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Speaker 7: go vegan, it will not taste as good.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 19: I have been on a different diet like every single

696
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Speaker 19: day of my life I was sixteen when I was

697
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Speaker 19: put on my very first blood pressure peel and I

698
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 19: was a woman size twenty twenty two. So I've been

699
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Speaker 19: on the keto diet, the cabbage soup diet, raw plant based, pescatarian,

700
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Speaker 19: everything you can think of. So I actually wanted to

701
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Speaker 19: create a chocolate that would basically fit into everyone's healthy lifestyle.

702
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Speaker 19: So what it actually is is a plant based chocolate

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Speaker 19: that supports all healthy lifestyles. You can be vegan, you

704
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 19: can be paleo, you can be whole thirty. It's soy free,

705
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Speaker 19: it's gluten free for those who can't tolerate blue suten

706
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Speaker 19: or or ciliacs, is sy free, it's it's non gmo,

707
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Speaker 19: it's uh made with organic ingredients, it's single origin, fair trade,

708
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 19: and it's being to bar. So this is about really

709
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Speaker 19: spreading this to everyone, not just vegans.

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Speaker 7: Well, the thing about it is that I'm gonna be

711
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Speaker 7: honest with you. You know when I talk about it, I'm

712
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Speaker 7: a meat eater. I'm a guy who goes out there.

713
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Speaker 7: I have fallen in with product like beyond meat. I love.

714
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Speaker 7: I enjoy my beyond Me burgler. Now they've got beyond

715
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Speaker 7: Me chicken. So I'm excited about trying that out. But

716
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Speaker 7: then we talk about vegan and you talk about vegetarians.

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Speaker 7: So you know, I really want to get a clarification

718
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Speaker 7: cause I ran into a friend of mine and she

719
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Speaker 7: went over to Jr's barbecue, and she said, well, I'm

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Speaker 7: a I'm a I'm a I'm a vegetarian. So what

721
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Speaker 7: is the difference between a vegan and a vegetarian or

722
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Speaker 7: is there or is there a difference there?

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Speaker 19: There is a difference, And I first want to start

724
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Speaker 19: off by saying I identify with being plant based. So

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Speaker 19: a vegan is truly a person who supports animals. I

726
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 19: mean it's a movement. So they don't eat anything as

727
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Speaker 19: it relates to animal products, they don't wear anything as

728
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Speaker 19: it to relates to animal products. They are true animal activists.

729
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Speaker 19: They don't even consume honey because it's produced from bees,

730
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Speaker 19: which I don't use honey in my product as well,

731
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Speaker 19: because I want to make sure it still supports that

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Speaker 19: vegan lifestyle.

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Speaker 3: A vegetarian is a non meat eater.

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Speaker 19: However, they do consume things like cheese, They do consume

735
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Speaker 19: things like eggs, but vegans will not consume dairy. They

736
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Speaker 19: will not consume eggs, so there is a difference. And

737
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Speaker 19: then there's a pescatarian, you know, and they eat fish.

738
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Speaker 19: So there's so many out there. But the good thing

739
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Speaker 19: about Good Girl Chocolate is whichever one you fall in,

740
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Speaker 19: whichever bucket you fall in, you can enjoy Good Girl

741
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Speaker 19: Chocolate because one hundred percent free of any animal products.

742
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Speaker 7: Well, you know, interesting thing about your brand, and I

743
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Speaker 7: know we're talking about the Good Girl Chocolate brand right now,

744
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Speaker 7: but you as a person that's always been about uplifting individuals,

745
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Speaker 7: especially empowering female. You did the book Believe in twenty

746
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Speaker 7: seventeen with my girl Kim Cole, actress Fame of Living Single,

747
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 7: about Open your Gifts, Gifts twenty two lessons on finding

748
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 7: and embracing your personal power. We find so much that

749
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Speaker 7: is so much in the forefront of conversation, right, personal power,

750
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Speaker 7: leading with your gifts, leading with your passions. What is

751
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Speaker 7: the book about? Why did you feel the need to

752
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Speaker 7: do a book and then you did a book with

753
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Speaker 7: a did the book with a very very funny actress

754
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Speaker 7: named Kim Cole's So I want to know the basis

755
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Speaker 7: of your whole structure of empowering people. Why is it

756
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Speaker 7: so important to empower because, like you said, at the

757
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Speaker 7: age of sixteen, you own blood pressure pills, so right there,

758
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Speaker 7: that means that you are the point of your life

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Speaker 7: where you need to be empowered both physically mentally. It

760
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Speaker 7: had to be understanding that it was all right you

761
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 7: were beautiful as you are. Nobody needed to tell you

762
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Speaker 7: how you look, to be special and things like that.

763
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Speaker 7: So talk about the whole empowerment and embracing your personal

764
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Speaker 7: personal power.

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Speaker 3: I tell you what this is actually the book right here.

766
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you can see.

767
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 7: It, but I can see it.

768
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Speaker 3: I exists, and it was so important.

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Speaker 19: And Kim is a dear, dear friend of mine, and

770
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Speaker 19: it was so important to write this chapter because I

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Speaker 19: know there are women out there that are going through

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Speaker 19: the same things that I went through. And the name

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Speaker 19: of my chapter is about triumph. And the name of

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Speaker 19: the chapter is are you ready to free yourself? And

775
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Speaker 19: let me just read you the first sentence it says,

776
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Speaker 19: I'm free, I'm finally free.

777
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Speaker 3: That's two sentences. Actually, are you ready to free yourself?

778
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Speaker 19: And triumph from weight challenges, from hormone challenges, from fibroids,

779
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Speaker 19: from cysts, from lack of energy, from blood pressure challenges,

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Speaker 19: from blood sugar challenges. These are all the things that

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Speaker 19: affected me. I remember that day when I was at

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Speaker 19: the doctor's office and she said that she was putting

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Speaker 19: me on a blood pressure pill. And I asked her, Okay, why,

784
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Speaker 19: you know, why do I have to take medicine? I'm sixteen?

785
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Speaker 19: And she said, so you don't have a stroke at

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Speaker 19: the age of thirty. And you know, when I look back,

787
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Speaker 19: you know, I come from the South, and we come

788
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Speaker 19: from you know, a family of.

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Speaker 3: Just rich cooking rich foods.

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Speaker 19: You know, we cook with back back and pork and

791
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Speaker 19: bacon and things like that. And when I look back,

792
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Speaker 19: there was an opportunity there to figure out why was

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Speaker 19: a sixteen year old having blood pressure problems. You know,

794
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Speaker 19: it couldn't be clogged dotteries. You know, I wasn't old enough.

795
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Speaker 19: But because things did not change, by the time I

796
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Speaker 19: was thirty, I was on.

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Speaker 3: Three different blood pressure pills.

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Speaker 19: And when you are a large child, when you're getting.

799
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Speaker 3: Teased about your weight, being almost three hundred pounds, being

800
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Speaker 3: on blood pressure pills, that affects you and that just

801
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Speaker 3: carries on.

802
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Speaker 19: Into your adulthood. So the self doubt, the lack of confidence.

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Speaker 19: All of that carried on into my adulthood. I majored

804
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Speaker 19: in pre med I ended up getting a master's in

805
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Speaker 19: health administration, but I did not go into the medical

806
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Speaker 19: field because I felt like a hypocrite. I felt like someone,

807
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Speaker 19: you know, I can't tell anyone how to eat and

808
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Speaker 19: how to live, and here I am three hundred pounds.

809
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Speaker 19: So I actually ended up working for a technology company

810
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Speaker 19: for eleven years before I really started.

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Speaker 3: Having panic attacks and hormone problems.

812
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Speaker 19: And it was the hormone problems and being on a

813
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Speaker 19: cycle for three months that really really made me realize

814
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Speaker 19: and say, Okay, enough is enough.

815
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Speaker 3: I have got to deal with this because I want kids.

816
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Speaker 19: And my grandmother, my mother, my aunt, I had cousins,

817
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Speaker 19: all have hysterectomies before the age of forty, and they

818
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Speaker 19: had kids, you know, and so of course they just

819
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 19: followed their doctor's orders and you know, telling them, Okay,

820
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Speaker 19: we need to have a hysterectomy.

821
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Speaker 3: But I didn't want my options taken away from me.

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Speaker 19: And that's why I said, Okay, I need to go

823
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Speaker 19: back to the roots. I need to go back to

824
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Speaker 19: natural health. And within thirty days because my doctor basically

825
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Speaker 19: suggested to me surgery or more medication to fix my

826
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Speaker 19: hormone problems. And within thirty days of natural health and

827
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Speaker 19: researching it myself, I stopped the cycle and I ended

828
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Speaker 19: up losing over eighty pounds. And that's when I actually

829
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 19: went back to school to study natureopathy because there are

830
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 19: so many of women in our community. I'm suffering from

831
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 19: the estrogen dominance, suffering from the fibroids, the cysts, the

832
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 19: blood pressure, the blood sugar, and I wanted to let

833
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Speaker 19: women know through this book that there is hope, there's

834
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 19: another way. Now that doesn't mean that you can one

835
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 19: hundred percent get off all of your medication. Fortunately enough

836
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 19: I was able to, but it took some work, It

837
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 19: took exercise, I mean a complete lifestyle change for me.

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Speaker 7: So when if somebody said, okay, complete lifestyle change, and now,

839
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Speaker 7: how do we tie good Girl chocolate into that? Because

840
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Speaker 7: when people hear the word good girl chocolate, they hear sweets,

841
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 7: they hear fact, they hear weight gain, all those things.

842
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 7: And so that's why I wanted people to hear your

843
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 7: story because when we go on these journeys and I'm

844
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 7: able to do all my show money making conversation I

845
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 7: like to be able to tie things together and why

846
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Speaker 7: there is a purpose behind the actual creation of this product. Now,

847
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 7: let's talk about the evolution of Good Girl Chocolate from

848
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 7: the conversation we just had about your journey of being

849
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 7: a sixteen year old nearly three hundred pounds, being bullied,

850
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 7: being ostracized, and then your family history with all your

851
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 7: relatives nearly an age of forty and not and you

852
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 7: also wanted to have a normal life. Talk about that

853
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 7: and then into Good Girl Chocolate. And I think the

854
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 7: journey of our conversation would have a certain motivational tone

855
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Speaker 7: to it and as well as a product that we

856
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Speaker 7: all should buy are all considered buying.

857
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Speaker 19: Absolutely So, like I said, I have been on a

858
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Speaker 19: diet every single day of my life, a different diet

859
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 19: every year of my life.

860
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Speaker 3: And one year, over ten years ago, I decided to

861
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Speaker 3: go raw.

862
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Speaker 19: And of course, when you're on a raw diet, you know,

863
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 19: you don't eat meat unless you're gonna eat it raw.

864
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Speaker 19: You know, you don't eat cheese and dairy and things

865
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Speaker 19: like that. So it was a truly raw diet. And

866
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 19: I said, okay, you know I need something sweet to eat,

867
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Speaker 19: you know, to really wash down.

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Speaker 7: All the raw food I'm telling you. I'm telling you

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Speaker 7: those raw diets they are good in theory, but you

870
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 7: got to have something to get rid of that taste.

871
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 3: Thank you, Yes you do.

872
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 19: So I started making raw chocolate. I mean seriously, I

873
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 19: would melt down cocoa butter at one hundred and twelve

874
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 19: degrees because when you dehydrate your food on a raw diet,

875
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 19: you have to keep it at that one hundred and

876
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 19: twelve degree temperature, so it still is a raw food.

877
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 19: But I would melt down my cocoa butter, you know,

878
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 19: mixing my coco powders and coconut oils, and I would

879
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 19: use organic raw agave and all of this to mix

880
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 19: up this chocolate. I brought bought equipment to mold the

881
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 19: chocolate and it just started from there.

882
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 3: And I kept this chocolate myself for years.

883
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 19: My mom loved it, and she was like, you know what,

884
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 19: you need to spread this chocolate to the world.

885
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 3: Let it ruod okay.

886
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 19: So back in twenty seventeen, I went to the Texas

887
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 19: Women's Conference and applied to present in front of QBC,

888
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 19: and the food buyer loved the chocolate and she said

889
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 19: it was actually like the best chocolate or plant based

890
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 19: chocolate that she had ever tasted.

891
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 3: And that was my confirmation that I'm onto something.

892
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 19: I ended up quitting my technology job and started my

893
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 19: own business, and by the time twenty eighteen rolled around,

894
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 19: I was online, I had my own packaging, and I

895
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 19: was selling Good Girl Chocolate. But it's called good Girl

896
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 19: chocolate because you can eat it every single day and

897
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 19: still say you've been good. So it's about clean eating.

898
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 3: It doesn't have the hydrogenated oils in it. The sugar

899
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 3: that I use is coconut sugar. It doesn't have table

900
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 3: sugar in it.

901
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 19: It's free from gluten, it's free from soy, it's single origin,

902
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 19: it's fair trade, so the workers are treated equally, and

903
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 19: we make it ourselves.

904
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: So it takes four days. That brownie batter bar that

905
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 3: you're eating, it takes.

906
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 19: Four days to make that chocolate because we actually roast

907
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 19: the beans ourselves and we put it into our grinders

908
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 19: and we grind the beans, we grind the coked Keep.

909
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 7: Talking Georgie's chocolate, Keep talking Good Girl flyund George's chocolate.

910
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 7: Come on that, that's.

911
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 19: Right, and it is the best chocolate ever. And let

912
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 19: me tell you if that one is too sweet for you,

913
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 19: then I'll put you in the semi sweet. I love

914
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 19: being able to figure out what people like from the

915
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 19: seventy percent dark to the fifty two percent dark to

916
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 19: the thirty four percent dark, and just really enjoying chocolate.

917
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: You know, we have.

918
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 19: One life to live, and I believe in the eighty

919
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 19: twenty room. Anyway, you know, you eat clean eighty percent

920
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 19: of your your life, but that twenty percent because we

921
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 19: have birthdays, we have Christmases, we have Thanksgiving, and let

922
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 19: me tell you, I get down during those days.

923
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 7: But this clean, doctor tabit. I just had gallbladder survey surgery.

924
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 7: You know my gallbladders removement what forty? Of course that's

925
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 7: when you usually the symptoms of having a gallbladder issue.

926
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 7: Now me, eating good girl chocolate should be a good.

927
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 3: Thing, right, So let me tell you this.

928
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 19: Everything and moderation, and as a natural pathic doctor, I

929
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 19: do have to tell you when you do not have

930
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 19: a gall bladder, it's harder for you to digest facts.

931
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 19: And that's why for all of my clients, I recommend

932
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 19: a food enzyme that has life pace in it because

933
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 19: life pace actually helps you digest fast.

934
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: But everything no matter what.

935
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 19: You're eating, whether it's the beyond sausage or meat that

936
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 19: we're talking about. You know, eat everything in moderation. Just

937
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 19: because it's plant based doesn't mean that you should be

938
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 19: eating a.

939
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 3: Whole wagon full of it. A potato chip is plant based,

940
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 3: but you shouldn't eat the whole higher a big.

941
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 11: Bag of them, right right.

942
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 7: But and that's me, and I'm saying I'm one of

943
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 7: those people I eat out of control. Like when you

944
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 7: said we shall you can eat this every day, I went, okay.

945
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 7: But you need to get the whole story before you

946
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 7: start just jumping into the wagon and having a party

947
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 7: and destroying all the good things that can happen in

948
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 7: your life by misinterpreting what you are trying to say

949
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 7: in this interview, or what anybody's ever trying to say

950
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 7: is about moderation. Weight loss is by moderation. Living an

951
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 7: uncomfortable life is moderation. They always tell you, don't overdrink,

952
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 7: don't over party, don't overdo it, don't overex size can

953
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 7: leads to knee injuries, pulled muscles. You know, people out

954
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 7: there they want to become young in the day by

955
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 7: going in the gym and trying to run a mile

956
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 7: when they only should be walking a mile instead of

957
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 7: running a mile. And so the whole purpose of when

958
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 7: I look at the whole platform of what you've done

959
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 7: with Good Girl Chocolate is tied to good health and

960
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 7: a good healthy lifestyle with moderation and a product that

961
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 7: allows you to eat. I've never used the words healthy

962
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 7: and mislead people, but this is a naturally sweetened it

963
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 7: is vegan based, and it's free of gluten, dairy, and soy,

964
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 7: and it's made with our GMOs. That's pretty good to me, doctor.

965
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 3: Thank you.

966
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 19: And I want to piggyback on what you just said,

967
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 19: don't use the term healthy, and I don't. I don't say, oh,

968
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 19: I have a healthy chocolate. What I do is I

969
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 19: say I have a chocolate that supports this lifestyle, that

970
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 19: free of the gluten, the soy, you know, the dairy,

971
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 19: supporting the vegan, the paleo and the whole thirty lifestyle.

972
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 19: And it's sweetened with coconut sugar, which is a lower

973
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 19: glycemic sugar.

974
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 3: And while we're at it, we also have sugar free.

975
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 19: One of the things that my my diabetics or my

976
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 19: ketos told me, they said, hey, you know doctor T.

977
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 3: We really want something free of sugar.

978
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 19: I understand you have the coconut sugar in it, but

979
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 19: we want something sugar free. So we also have a

980
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 19: sugar free chocolate that has xylotol from Birch, which is

981
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 19: the best of the best when it comes to alternative

982
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 19: sweeteners for the diabetic A community and for the keto community.

983
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 7: Now you're based in Oklahoma, and the Good Girl Chocolate

984
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 7: is based in Oklahoma. You just opened to a rick

985
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 7: and mortar in the Pinch Square mall in Oklahoma. And now,

986
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 7: doctor T, let's talk about some good things that have

987
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 7: happened that made you smile.

988
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 12: You know.

989
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 7: Beyonce one says she came to your rescue, but bore

990
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 7: her brand really came in and put some love on you. Really,

991
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 7: it's not really about the amount of money she gave you.

992
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 7: It's the brand association, don't you agree.

993
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 19: Absolutely, It's just and first of all that it just

994
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 19: felt so good.

995
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 3: I didn't receive an email or anything.

996
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 19: It was posted on social media who the grant recipients were,

997
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 19: and I saw my chocolate, and let me tell you

998
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 19: that I think I cried.

999
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 11: I'm serious.

1000
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: I was crying because it was just so.

1001
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 19: I felt so much overwhelming joy from seeing that and

1002
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 19: knowing that I'm onto something, I'm doing something right.

1003
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 3: You know, when I was invited to.

1004
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 19: The Grammy's Gifting Suite, you know, they tasted it first

1005
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 19: and said, hey, we really don't like healthy chocolate, but

1006
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 19: your chocolate is awesome.

1007
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 3: Your energy it's great. We definitely want you here.

1008
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 19: It's just been confirmation after confirmation and being the first

1009
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 19: permanently black owned business in my local mall.

1010
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 3: Oh man, you I'm just I'm just full of joy.

1011
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 3: I'm very very very grateful, and I'm just excited. I

1012
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 3: just celebrated a birthday too, this past weekend.

1013
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 19: We've been over open a week, so it was like

1014
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 19: the per perfect birthday gift to me.

1015
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 7: Well, let's let's go and talk about you know, being

1016
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 7: the first of anything is tied to pressure because you

1017
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 7: can't be the first to close. You know, you're the

1018
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 7: first o. So that means that you have to endure

1019
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 7: you know, internal mental sometimes depression. You have to deal

1020
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 7: with being in an environment that people can surround you

1021
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 7: positive people and also surround yourself with people who understand

1022
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 7: your dream. Talk about your network of people who support

1023
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 7: you and also who have enabled you to get to

1024
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 7: where you are today with good girls chocolate.

1025
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 19: You know, I tell you I would be remiss if

1026
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 19: I didn't say my parents first when it comes to support.

1027
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 19: They are my number one supporters. As a matter of fact,

1028
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 19: right now, it's so hard to find people to work

1029
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 19: right now, and my parents, who are retired, have stepped

1030
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 19: up and have been helping me in the store, you

1031
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 19: know this past week. Keep things together. But I believe

1032
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 19: your network is very important. You know, there's that saying

1033
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 19: your network is your net worth, but it really really

1034
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 19: is about building relationships. I am an alpha Kappa alpha woman,

1035
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 19: and you know I have a network from my sorority sisters,

1036
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 19: you know, who came together and supported me my first

1037
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 19: you know, week open.

1038
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 3: You already know.

1039
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 19: My good friend Kim Cole's you know, he has definitely

1040
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 19: opened up some amazing, amazing doors for me.

1041
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 3: But it's really about relationships. You know. I think your

1042
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 3: character and who you are is very important and people

1043
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: are going.

1044
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 13: To see that.

1045
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 3: People are going to see that uniqueness about you. And

1046
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 3: I'm a believer. I believe in God.

1047
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 19: God is first in my life and I've just been

1048
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 19: so blessed with people who love me, people who have

1049
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 19: embraced me, people who have helped me get.

1050
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 3: To where I am today. I am truly grateful.

1051
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 19: I went through the Oklahoma City Thunder Accelerator program here

1052
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 19: in Oklahoma.

1053
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 3: City, and I came out with my first investor.

1054
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 19: And it was that investor who helped me because I

1055
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 19: had to totally redo this store in Pennsquirre Mall from

1056
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 19: drop ceilings to electrical to equipment.

1057
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 3: That's fifteen thousand dollars of peace. So all of.

1058
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 19: That cost money. And I'm just excited. I'm excited about

1059
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 19: the growth. I'm excited about the wholesale opportunities that.

1060
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 3: Are out there that have approached me. It's just an

1061
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 3: exciting time.

1062
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 19: I'm thinking about opening up for another investor fund here

1063
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 19: in the fall, and it's just it's truly about relationships.

1064
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 19: And I'm excited about sitting here with you, talking to

1065
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 19: you and on your show. And I appreciate the opportunity

1066
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 19: and thank you so much from the bottom of my heart.

1067
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 7: Well, thank you for this good girl Chalkolic. First of all,

1068
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 7: it's gonna be real. It's a selfish motivation here. You

1069
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 7: give me some good I gotta talk to you about

1070
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 7: how good it is, and it's really I can't wait

1071
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 7: to get in this little this little bag of tricks

1072
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 7: right here, the little covered with those pecan nuts. This

1073
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 7: is going to be my favorite.

1074
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 19: Let me tell you that pecan fudge. I don't know

1075
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 19: if we can even let you dig on it, if

1076
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 19: you can dig in on it on the show, but

1077
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 19: that pecan fudge truffle that's in that.

1078
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 3: That's probably going to be your favorite.

1079
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 7: Well I know, but you know a rich old Rushan,

1080
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 7: you know, immorsels in moderation. So I'm working on this.

1081
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 7: I knt immediately busts open this little package here, especially

1082
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 7: limity just wrapping up surgery. But more importantly, just I

1083
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 7: wanted to tell your story. I just you know, And

1084
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 7: there's always a great story. There's always the product's fantastic.

1085
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 7: Let's let's move past that. But what made that product

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Speaker 7: a reality? And the reality is through personal triumph. A

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Speaker 7: reality is trying to change not only your lives, but

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Speaker 7: other people alives through your empowerment. And it started with

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Speaker 7: you with your book. It started when you're sixteen years old.

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Speaker 7: It started with you not accepting the fact that this

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Speaker 7: is going to be your life and you didn't want

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Speaker 7: it to be your life. It started through your education.

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Speaker 7: It started through you realizing that the way you look

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Speaker 7: was limited in your dreams and you had to change that.

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Speaker 7: But more importantly, doctor Carr, your your product is amazing.

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Speaker 7: Don't let the word vegan run you away from this product.

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Speaker 7: It is what it is, but it's for you. It

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Speaker 7: tastes good. Everybody knows I'm a dessert nut. I am

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Speaker 7: a foodie. When I say something is good, and you

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Speaker 7: should stamp that as a reality. I do not allow

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Speaker 7: people to come on my show and then, you know,

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Speaker 7: eat their food and then go around the corner and

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Speaker 7: split it out. That's not how it works on money

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Speaker 7: making conversation. This is fantastic and I will be dying

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Speaker 7: on this this weekend. Thank you very much for coming

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Speaker 7: on those show, doctor Carr.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 19: Thank you so much for the opportunity I have enjoyed

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Speaker 19: this time. I love talking about health and wellness. I

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Speaker 7: Well, you did it all in this interview. I'd like

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Speaker 7: to believe we hit all those touch We hit all

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Speaker 15: Okay, we will be right back with more money. Making

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Speaker 21: waiting for the.

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Speaker 10: And there they go, almost on time.

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Speaker 21: This morning, Mom is coming off the front door straw

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Speaker 21: with a double arm kid carry. Looks like dad has

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Speaker 21: the bags. Daughter is bringing up the rear. Oh, but

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Speaker 21: the diaper bag wasn't closed. Diapers and toys are everywhere. Ooh,

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Speaker 21: but mom has just nailed the perfect car seat buckle

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Speaker 21: for the toddler. And now the eldest daughter, who looks

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Speaker 21: to be about nine or ten, has secured herself.

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Speaker 20: In the booster seat.

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Speaker 21: Dad zips the bag closed and they're off. Ah, but

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Speaker 21: looks like mom doesn't realize her coffee cup is still

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Speaker 21: on the roof of the.

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Speaker 17: Car and there it goes.

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Speaker 18: You are now tuned into the money making conversations Minute

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Speaker 18: of Inspiration with Rashaan McDonald.

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Speaker 7: I recently interviewed Gina Yashari, a British comedian of Nigerian heritage.

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Speaker 7: She's the co creator court ejacutive producer, writer and actress

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Speaker 7: on the hit CBS series Bob Hart Abbashola. Gina is

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Speaker 7: releasing her first book, a memoir, Cat Handy, which chronicles

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Speaker 7: her odyssey to get to America and break into Hollywood.

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Speaker 13: I wrote the book convidually. It started off as just

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Speaker 13: on Instagram.

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Speaker 22: There was a hashtag foe back Thursdays, where you post

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Speaker 22: old pictures, and I was posting old pictures and writing

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Speaker 22: the story behind the pictures. So I post a picture

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Speaker 22: and write an elaborate post explaining the history behind the picture.

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Speaker 22: And people were really interested in saying, oh my god,

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Speaker 22: your story is so good, why don't you write a book?

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Speaker 22: So I started keeping those and I wanted to talk

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Speaker 22: about my history because people don't seem to realize that

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Speaker 22: the UK started safely.

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Speaker 7: If you want to hear the full interview with Gina Yasharade,

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Speaker 7: it's available on money Making Conversations dot com.

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Speaker 15: Welcome back to money Making Conversations with your host Rashan McDonald.

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Speaker 7: Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I am your host, Rashan McDonald.

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Speaker 7: I always tell people every week, you know it's time

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Speaker 7: to stop reading other people's success stories to start writing

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Speaker 7: your own. People always talking about gifts and passions. If

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Speaker 7: you have a gift, lead with your gift and don't

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Speaker 7: let your age, friends, family, coworkers stop you from planning

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Speaker 7: or living your dreams. The people I bring on money

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Speaker 7: making conversations or celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs, and people I like

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Speaker 7: to call industry decision makers. My next guest is what

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Speaker 7: I like to believe is truly an industry decision maker.

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Speaker 7: His name is Kurt Mays. He is the CEO of

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Speaker 7: Forgotten Harvest, one of Michigan's top nonprofit organizations and one

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Speaker 7: of the nation's premier food rescue organizations. Forgotten Harvest was

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Speaker 7: formed in nineteen ninety to fight two problems, hunger and waste.

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Speaker 7: Forgotten Harvest rescue forty one point five million pounds of

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Speaker 7: food last year by collecting surplus prepared and perishable food

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Speaker 7: from eight hundred sources that include grocery stores, fruit and

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Speaker 7: vegetable markets, restaurants, caterers, dairies, farmers, wholesale food distributors, wholesale

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Speaker 7: food distributors, and other Department approved sources. This donated food

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Speaker 7: which would otherwise go to waste and just deliver free

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Speaker 7: of charge to more than two hundred and eighty emergency

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Speaker 7: food providers in the metro Detroit area. He's on the

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Speaker 7: show to talk about the purpose but also his purpose

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Speaker 7: please work with the money making conversations, my man, Kurt Maids,

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Speaker 7: thank you.

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Speaker 13: Sir Wesi Donald, thank you for having me on the show.

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Speaker 13: This designer.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Cur, I've had to put you out there. Man,

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Speaker 7: you change your lives.

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Speaker 13: Brother, A man just trying every day to just do

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Speaker 13: what we can to help. Man.

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Speaker 7: We know, Curry when I interview individuals like you, because

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Speaker 7: you're such forward thinkers and you're all about what you

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Speaker 7: can do more, what you can do better? What does

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Speaker 7: that start? I'm gonna delve into you a little bit.

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Speaker 7: Where does that start for you? Who initiated this type

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Speaker 7: of behavior or thought process in your life?

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Speaker 13: It comes from my home, It comes from my moms.

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Speaker 13: It comes from the way I grew up.

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Speaker 23: You know, my mother, my family are from Jamaica and

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Speaker 23: really started with like you know, third world country property

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Speaker 23: just a different level. You know, my mom didn't have

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Speaker 23: her first pair of shoes until she actually had to

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Speaker 23: go to school, right, So you know, it's just kind

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Speaker 23: of like having that family background of people that started

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Speaker 23: so far away from their dreams and ambitions and just

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Speaker 23: taking those one day at a time steps towards like progress.

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Speaker 13: It's something that I.

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Speaker 23: Lived in, lived around my whole life and realizing the

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Speaker 23: gift and the blessing that.

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Speaker 13: I had to be, you know, in America for them.

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Speaker 23: To make the sacrifice the day that did to actually

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Speaker 23: I was born here to be able to actually realize

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Speaker 23: that every opportunity that I had was an extension of

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Speaker 23: the dreams that they have in themselves. So it was

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Speaker 23: always instilled in me to actually stay on the right

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Speaker 23: path and be patient about achieving goals because nothing comes,

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Speaker 23: you know, overnight, So it really just came from home

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Speaker 23: and how I was raised.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know that's important because it shapes your vision.

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Speaker 7: Like I said, my service was really introduced when I

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Speaker 7: was in college at the University of Houston, and that

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Speaker 7: players to Magasi five fraternity and all fraternities there as

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Speaker 7: are service based organization. If anybody doesn't know anything about that,

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Speaker 7: that's what they really are. And that's what I really

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Speaker 7: got into community service given you know, raising funds for

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Speaker 7: local community activists organizations, donating food I mean we should

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Speaker 7: give away government cheese, was givaway water, all those things

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Speaker 7: and seeing how the people react. I remember, man, when

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Speaker 7: we had when we loaded up that truck, it was

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Speaker 7: giving where that government chiefe. Man, it was a line

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Speaker 7: around the block. And so the need is real, and

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Speaker 7: so let's talk about that need.

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Speaker 13: Kirk. Well, you know it starts with a.

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Speaker 23: Moment where people have to realize that they can't do

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Speaker 23: it on their own, and they got to actually figure

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Speaker 23: out who they can trust in that moment of vulnerability

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Speaker 23: to get what they need, but also try to walk

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Speaker 23: away with enough energy and time so they can actually

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Speaker 23: work on the root cause, which is how do I

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Speaker 23: make sure I don't I.

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Speaker 13: Don't have to deal with this again.

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Speaker 23: And you know, in our lives, we'd be surprised how

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Speaker 23: many times people fall into that one scenario where it's

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Speaker 23: like I can't do it by myself. Whether it's a

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Speaker 23: corporation that's doing major layoffs, whether it's the government shutdown

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Speaker 23: that we've seen, the pandemic, or just the regular cycles

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Speaker 23: of our economy that are changing every day from.

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Speaker 13: Local to global.

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Speaker 23: Right, so we see in our work, unfortunately, the lines

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Speaker 23: wrapped around the corner every day in multiple places. So

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Speaker 23: the issue of human need is persistent, it's constant, and

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Speaker 23: unfortunately it's more dynamic than just being able to put

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Speaker 23: food in a place for.

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Speaker 13: People to get it.

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Speaker 23: Got to think we got to really come together and

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Speaker 23: think about the ways that we can help each other,

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Speaker 23: even before people asks, so that we can help, you know,

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Speaker 23: stam some of these gaps that people have and sometimes

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Speaker 23: they don't say anything until it's too bad. It's worse

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Speaker 23: than it should have been.

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Speaker 13: And if we can work together and be that safety

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Speaker 13: net for each.

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Speaker 23: Other, we really can do a lot to reduce the

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Speaker 23: pain that a lot of people are actually suffering through quiety.

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Speaker 7: But let's talk about that because when you said that

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Speaker 7: people are wrapped around the building, you know, let's go

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Speaker 7: back to twenty twenty when this country was shut down.

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Speaker 7: Restaurants could even do any business, and so you get

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Speaker 7: a lot of your food from these type of what

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Speaker 7: they say, prepared or preperishable food, and one of the

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Speaker 7: things is restaurant caterers, you know, farmers, wholesale and food distributors.

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Speaker 7: Walk us through that moment right there in time where

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Speaker 7: you had a system in place where you did business

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Speaker 7: with and retrieving this type of food. Then when the

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Speaker 7: country got set down shut down in twenty two want

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Speaker 7: to do the COVID, how did that dynamic change and

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Speaker 7: how did you walk through the process and dealing with

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Speaker 7: companies now who are not even making money, but now

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Speaker 7: you need the food that they're offering.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, so that's a good that's a good point. So

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Speaker 23: let me just kind of level set a little bit

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Speaker 23: on how the whole system is set up for us

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01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 23: and how we kind of approached it first. Over the

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01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,480
Speaker 23: years that we've become more dynamic and have more capacity

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Speaker 23: to serve our community, we actually forgotten harvest of this.

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01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 13: For instance, at the time that that pandemic went into.

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01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 23: Play, our largest sources of food coming from places like

1305
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 23: grocery stores, farmers, food manufacturers like Canagra, and the places

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01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 23: where the food getting warehouse.

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01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 13: And we have a farm of our own.

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01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 23: So when you think about the actual prepared foods, the

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01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 23: stuff that's already cooked, we actually specialized and that other

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01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 23: stuff I just talked about. And then we have some

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01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 23: select partners like certain restaurant groups like the casinos as well, uh,

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01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 23: you know Tiger Stadium when they when they didn't finish

1313
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 23: with all the hot dogs.

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Speaker 13: We go get those, but because of the food safety.

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Speaker 23: Parameters that we want to put in place, we didn't

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01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,759
Speaker 23: really deal with a lion's share.

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Speaker 13: Of pair of food.

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Speaker 23: Yes, now, when when the restaurants shut down because of

1319
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 23: the pandemic, we do have a capacity to deal with that,

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01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 23: and we had to make that adjustment so that we

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01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 23: could actually go get the stuff that was actually going

1322
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 23: to go to waste because the restaurants couldn't get it

1323
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 23: out to the community.

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01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 13: So there was a small flipping.

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01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 23: Time where we got a bunch of the restaurants rations

1326
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,759
Speaker 23: and got that back out to the community. Right now,

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01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 23: our typical way of doing things, as I mentioned, is

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01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 23: our trucks leave our daily uh, the daily picture of

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01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 23: forgotten harvest is our trucks leave our warehouse and metro

1330
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 23: detroited every day and they go out on routes to

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01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 23: go pick up food from dedicated grocery store partners. And

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01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 23: then after they go hit about twelve to fifteen to

1333
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 23: those grocery store partners, they didn't turn that food back

1334
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 23: around and drop it off at some of the community organizations,

1335
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 23: the churches, the senior centers throughout the community. In order

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01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 23: for those organizations and turn back around and then redistributed

1337
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 23: for folks that need in the community at our home

1338
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 23: warehouse while things are coming in from farmers and manufacturers

1339
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 23: and things like that.

1340
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Speaker 13: We have about sixteen thousand.

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01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 23: Volunteers a year that help us with actually sorting through things,

1342
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 23: making sure we separate the good for the bad, but

1343
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 23: also break down things like the onions and tomatoes and

1344
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 23: corn into smaller bundles so that we're not just taking

1345
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 23: big galers or big boxes to the community and dropping

1346
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 23: them off. We're actually dropping them off, but they're also

1347
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 23: already kind of unitized, so people who walk through the

1348
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 23: line can actually get their portion for themselves. So it's

1349
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 23: kind of a dynamic operation going on a daily basis.

1350
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 13: As we walked into COVID, we had to realize a

1351
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 13: few things.

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01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 23: Number One, our distribution network was going to potentially be

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01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 23: greatly affective because if you know how the actual emergency

1354
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 23: food distribution system is set up throughout our communities, it's

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01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 23: largely done by volunteers. You know that church group that's

1356
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 23: actually giving out the food, that's probably you know Grandma

1357
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 23: and the church Ms.

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01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 13: Johnson and the church that says, you know, this is

1359
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 13: something that's passionate.

1360
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 23: For her and she wants to do that, So just

1361
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 23: take two hours out her Wednesday to give away that

1362
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,879
Speaker 23: free food that gets sourced for however that particular location

1363
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 23: does it. There's a lot of situations like that. That's

1364
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 23: actually the safety net for our communities. And when COVID

1365
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 23: came in that those were vulnerable populations, yes, with with

1366
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 23: very little infrastructure for sustainability, and a lot of those

1367
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 23: folks weren't getting paid so they were volunteer roles.

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01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 13: So we knew that there was.

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Speaker 23: Gonna be some real instability in our distribution network. A

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Speaker 23: lot of our volunteers it's the same sixteen thousand volunteers

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01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 23: a year.

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Speaker 13: We got some great corporate relationships, so.

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01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 23: Our volunteers come in bundles of thirty and fifty at

1374
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 23: the time, because we got corporate corporations that are sending

1375
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 23: people to us on a daily basis for corporate raation

1376
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 23: shut down and start actually sending people to work from home.

1377
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 23: Changing the parameters around how volunteerism and just how people

1378
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 23: were going to be deployed into the community. We had

1379
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 23: to figure out what we're going to do about volunteers.

1380
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,679
Speaker 23: But that's a core way of what we do. Forgotten

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01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 23: Harvest distributes to about fifty million pounds of food last

1382
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 23: year to our community and helped about a million people.

1383
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 13: We can't do that with the eighty staff and ninety

1384
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 13: five staff that we had.

1385
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 23: We need our volunteers, so we also had to come

1386
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 23: up with a way to address that.

1387
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 13: In addition to all of that, in the working spaces

1388
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 13: that we have, we had some.

1389
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 23: Things that we had to consider, like ppe like the

1390
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 23: distance between how far people could be when we actually

1391
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 23: give away the food, what's the best ways to give

1392
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 23: away the food so that everybody is actually kept protected,

1393
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 23: And when we're actually doing our side of the processing,

1394
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 23: how was our space going to be transformed? So in

1395
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 23: order to address these things, we did a couple of things.

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01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 23: The first thing we did is we came up a

1397
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 23: way to actually quickly distribute the food to the community

1398
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 23: with the system that we actually ran in controlling our

1399
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,440
Speaker 23: own instead of actually depending on our typical system.

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01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 13: Of going to our community distribution partner.

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01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 7: And that was about because of COVID. Right, that.

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01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 13: Was because of COVID. Now we have already been kind

1403
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 13: of working on.

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01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 23: A model that we were actually as a team kind

1405
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 23: of testing on our own We were kind of doing

1406
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 23: our own little R and D, and it turns out

1407
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 23: that that little thing that we were working on was

1408
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 23: the exact thing that we needed to do in order

1409
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 23: to address that particular hole, which was how do we

1410
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,959
Speaker 23: actually put distribution mechanisms out there to get to the community,

1411
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 23: knowing that the whole distribution network that we had in

1412
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 23: place will probably shut down. And what we did for

1413
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 23: that was we set up what we call our mobile pantry, but.

1414
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 13: We basically go and to deployed one of.

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01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 23: Those fifty three foot refrigerated trucks into our community with

1416
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 23: volunteers and it serves as at that stag unit.

1417
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 13: We put all the stuff on the parking lot on

1418
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 13: a pallette.

1419
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 23: And we had role of distributions with the community coming

1420
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 23: through in their cars and we were able to put

1421
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 23: stuff in the trunks. We had to go from fishing

1422
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 23: with a net, so to speak, to fishing with the

1423
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 23: hook again with.

1424
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 13: Volunteers and calling one at a time.

1425
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 23: So we put partnerships in place with some of our

1426
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 23: community partners so we can get the volunteers and be

1427
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 23: specific about how we did that. Were really in the

1428
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 23: middle of all of that, really had to pause that

1429
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 23: I had to the team had to really get serious

1430
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 23: about trying to get to every partner we could get ppe.

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01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 13: Right quick, Kirk.

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01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 7: The whole process of what you're talking about, you know,

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01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 7: it's fear you know, COVID because like I said, plus Michigan,

1434
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 7: in the state of Michigan. I'm talking to Kirk Made.

1435
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 7: He's the CEO of Forgotten the Harvest. UH runs one

1436
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 7: of the Michigan's top nonprofit organizations where Premier rescue food organization.

1437
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 7: This is a key in this conversation. Food that will

1438
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 7: be perishable food that we'll be thrown away, he repurposes

1439
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 7: it and it gives it to people in need, and

1440
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 7: it's safe food that's being be repurposes and delivered free

1441
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 7: of charge. That's what we're talking about. It's not only

1442
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 7: happens there, but there are other organizations in the in

1443
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 7: the state of America, in this world that does that

1444
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 7: as well. But we're talking to Curt Made right here. Hey, Kurt,

1445
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 7: I wanted to talk slow down just a little bit

1446
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 7: because the ready made food that you was getting from

1447
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 7: this restaurant played a role because that food went to

1448
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 7: certain individuals or certain groups. What happened there when you

1449
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 7: didn't have the ready made food anymore to be given

1450
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 7: out to these certain groups of individuals that needed or

1451
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 7: was expecting it five days a week.

1452
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 13: You know, we relied on some of our resistant relationships.

1453
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 23: We were all at that point, we realized that we

1454
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 23: had to change the way we looked at bringing in

1455
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 23: our full supply, so our supply chain partnerships had to actually.

1456
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 13: Pivot on the dime so instead of.

1457
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 23: You know, a lot of the food came from the

1458
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 23: grocery store, and grocery store shelles was clear, so what

1459
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 23: we was going to do. So we have these relationships

1460
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 23: with a lot of food producers and food manufacturers, so

1461
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 23: we started to actually approach some of our partners to

1462
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 23: buy the food because we knew we needed to actually

1463
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 23: start getting out here and actually making sure that we

1464
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 23: were there.

1465
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 13: We were on the ground with food.

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01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 23: So there was a portion of time where I had

1467
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 23: to get a poogo from our board to be able

1468
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 23: to actually go into our cash reserves up to a

1469
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 23: million dollars so that I could actually be able to

1470
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 23: purchase food so that we could actually feel the gas

1471
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 23: we needed to feel in case we couldn't get the

1472
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 23: food from the food manufacturers and at the same or

1473
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 23: from the community the way we were getting it, and

1474
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 23: at the same time we started actually putting the word

1475
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 23: out to people. You know what, man I got to say,

1476
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 23: it's such a blessing. We never had to dip into

1477
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 23: that million dollars to buy the food. We did have

1478
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 23: to buy food, but we got food that was coming

1479
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 23: in from places that we didn't even expect. We had

1480
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 23: partners that actually stepped up to make sure that we

1481
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 23: were in place where we need to be. We have

1482
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 23: a coalition of partners in the state of Michigan called

1483
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 23: the Food Bank Council of Michigan, which is seven organizations

1484
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 23: and we covered the entire state.

1485
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 13: We started putting.

1486
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 23: Our hands together and we went to the governor and

1487
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 23: we started speaking as one voice about the shortfalls that

1488
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 23: were coming to us based on what was going on,

1489
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 23: the moves that FEMA did, the moves to be able

1490
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,600
Speaker 23: to get the boxes on the ground. A lot of

1491
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 23: that conversation actually started a Michigan and they proliferated throughout

1492
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 23: the rest of the country as the way that everybody

1493
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 23: would actually get that solution in place. So the Cares

1494
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 23: Act program. Some of the things that happened through FEMA

1495
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 23: ultimately was what actually stem the tide to be able

1496
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 23: to give all of us the food we needed.

1497
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 13: So the food boxes.

1498
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 23: Then Forgotten Harvest because we have all the relationships with

1499
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 23: other fresh group providers. Also many also supplemented the food

1500
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 23: boxes with vegetables, fruits, lunches for the kids and all

1501
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 23: we've been given away and average seventy pounds of food

1502
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 23: for every family that comes through our line.

1503
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 13: Wow.

1504
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 7: You know when I listened to you talk, you the CEO. Okay,

1505
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 7: So that means there's a journey to become the CEO

1506
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 7: of Forgotten Heart. How is that possible? How does that work?

1507
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 7: You know, when you know your surface are oriented, young man,

1508
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 7: You've been honored by your alumni, your school, Michigan State University,

1509
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 7: been honored for other efforts within the community, How does

1510
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 7: Kurt Mads become the CEO of Forgotten Harvests?

1511
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 13: And that's the main dollar question.

1512
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 7: You though you already you gotta You showed me your

1513
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 7: visionary You showed me that you you wrather the pivot.

1514
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 7: When when when confusion steps in place, you already had places,

1515
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 7: You already had an idea that, hey, this is something

1516
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 7: we need to look at COVID hits it. You already

1517
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 7: got the model. You put the model in place, and

1518
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 7: then it moves you forward, and then you're able to

1519
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 7: create a one voice. You tell the council look notifying

1520
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 7: them that hey, there is a problem out there. I'm

1521
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 7: not saying we're going to get the money, but that

1522
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:55,719
Speaker 7: means that you're a guy who foresees the problem with resolution. Yeah,

1523
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 7: that has been your personality.

1524
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 13: Correct, Yeah that's all. That's all you know. Humbly I

1525
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 13: can say that's all fair.

1526
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 23: Right, So, but to answer your question, I got to

1527
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 23: actually go probably a little bit off the script and just.

1528
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 13: Go say that I've just been trying to make sure

1529
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 13: my fire don't burn me up, and I gotta fire

1530
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 13: for our people. Yes, I gotta fire for our community.

1531
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 13: I understand.

1532
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 23: I think I understand well enough the politics and change.

1533
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 23: My greatest focus is studying people and trying to understand

1534
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 23: people so I can do as much as I can

1535
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 23: as a servant to people to help I started as

1536
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 23: a grass roots or community organizer with the hope that

1537
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 23: I could actually be a part of an effort to

1538
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 23: you know, twenty years ago, I started with a dream

1539
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 23: that we could recreate black Wall Street and Detroit and

1540
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 23: now I see people.

1541
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 13: Talking about it everywhere.

1542
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 23: So I honestly is just a young man who just

1543
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 23: want to see change with the people around me. I

1544
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 23: got to burn and fire. I had a great education,

1545
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 23: and I want point. I realized that I can probably

1546
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 23: do anything and be successful. And I could go sell

1547
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 23: myself my talent and my ability, my time and somebody

1548
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 23: and probably gonna make a lot of money. But I

1549
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 23: want to I want to leave a legacy, you know,

1550
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 23: this life that my my child, my family could be

1551
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 23: proud of. And it got to be something more than

1552
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 23: just cash. So I dedicated my life to serving our community.

1553
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 13: And I got to say, it didn't start being a

1554
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 13: CEO forgotten Harvardy.

1555
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 23: You know, it didn't start being the CEO and nothing

1556
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 23: except this dream I had. And I was always the

1557
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 23: CEO of that dream. And I never stopped being a CEO.

1558
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 23: And I've always been putting my fire into the place

1559
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 23: where I felt like I could add the.

1560
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 13: Most value to the moment in the conversation.

1561
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 23: And it's turned out that that service has put has

1562
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 23: positioned me in a place where I've been able to

1563
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 23: actually be in front of a conversation or in front

1564
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 23: of a group and be considered as somebody.

1565
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 13: To be able to be, you know, to follow into

1566
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 13: into the fire.

1567
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 7: You know.

1568
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 13: Before I was at Forgotten Harvest, my job was.

1569
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 23: As the grasstop leader for a hard hit community in

1570
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 23: Detroit called Brightmore, And you know, I applied the same

1571
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:16,759
Speaker 23: kind of fire towards community development and made some change

1572
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 23: and made some problems, you know what I'm saying. And

1573
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 23: that got me a role that was pulled into the

1574
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 23: Mayor's office as the deputy for Economic Development.

1575
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 13: And I think what happened was.

1576
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 23: The powers that be, whatever you want to call it,

1577
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,759
Speaker 23: the cross section of our community in the business world

1578
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 23: got a chance to see my light shining in a

1579
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 23: lot of different ways as they were looking for the

1580
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 23: person to fulfill the role of Forgotten the Harvest. It

1581
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 23: wasn't something I saw in my future, but when I

1582
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 23: really understood what it could be, I sat down in

1583
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 23: the interview and I gave them everything I had. And

1584
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 23: I've been doing that for the last seven years to

1585
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 23: try to do that through you know, this role, to

1586
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 23: do the most I can to continue to change our community.

1587
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 13: Man, I wish I could tell you a game plan

1588
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 13: to get here, but.

1589
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 23: I was just I've just been trying to do as

1590
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 23: much as I can to get back to my people.

1591
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 7: Well, let me tell you a game plan. You know,

1592
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 7: it's like a lot of people because you're a grinder.

1593
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 7: I call you grinders, people that just put their head

1594
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 7: down and they like I always always tell people when

1595
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 7: I look back on my life, I've been doing what

1596
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 7: I'm doing today since I was eighteen years old, uplifting,

1597
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 7: you know, stepping beyond the word ask. I just did it,

1598
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 7: seeing a problem and creating a resolution. And yes I

1599
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,759
Speaker 7: did rub people the wrong way, but it was always

1600
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 7: but I walked away with respect. The thing about it,

1601
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 7: when you hear the word rubbing people the wrong way,

1602
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 7: these are people don't want change, and change is usually

1603
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 7: tied to putting forth effort. And when you ask people

1604
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 7: to put forth effort, that means they have to think

1605
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 7: about the resolution of the new concept, and that creates resistance,

1606
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 7: and that's where you get bumped. And so when you're

1607
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 7: creating resistance, that means you have to have a plan

1608
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 7: in place. And that's what he does. See, he doesn't

1609
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 7: create resistance without a plan. And so while people over

1610
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 7: there with their lips stuck out he's he's over here

1611
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 7: telling people this is how it can be operate or executed.

1612
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 7: And then they then they calm down and they have

1613
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 7: to come to the table at least listen to you.

1614
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 7: And while they're listening, then you have their attention in

1615
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 7: their ear and we can move forward. That is who

1616
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 7: Kurt made it basis. He may not want to say

1617
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 7: that one of.

1618
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 13: The piece the piece.

1619
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 23: If you don't agree, and I really believe that this

1620
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 23: is the thing, yes, I build it myself.

1621
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 24: There you go, people like jumping on bandwagon.

1622
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 23: You might have been the one at the tables said

1623
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 23: nah no. But if and I'm like, look, let's see, yes,

1624
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 23: and if you don't want to, if you don't want

1625
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 23: to jump down this road and stay with me, I'm

1626
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 23: not gonna do as much as I can.

1627
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:43,679
Speaker 13: I got enough.

1628
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 23: Capacity to build it so that this wagon is wabbling

1629
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 23: and I'm gonna get somebody else to fix that wheel.

1630
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 23: But you see by action, if you don't believe by word,

1631
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 23: and that's what really is my hidden I think jewel

1632
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 23: I can do it.

1633
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 7: See I finally got the real cur the pop out

1634
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 7: in this interview.

1635
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 13: You did the same.

1636
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 3: You move forward.

1637
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 7: He started pointing at me. He's telling me, if you

1638
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 7: don't do it, I get the nail and the hammer

1639
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 7: and the saw. I'll build it myself. And that's really

1640
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 7: what Why are you the CEO? That's all I That's

1641
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 7: all I was asking Because sometimes along the way, it's

1642
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 7: your passion, your desire, you'll get out of the way

1643
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 7: and function as a as a leader. Is why we're

1644
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 7: here today. We're talking about Kirk Mais. In eighteen ninety

1645
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 7: for Gotten Harvest was founded. Is dedicated to be leaving

1646
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:33,719
Speaker 7: hunger and preventing food waste, and they deliver one hundred

1647
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 7: and thirty eight thousand pounds per day, five days a

1648
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 7: week to families in need. And recently, I shouldn't say recently,

1649
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 7: within this past year, you guys received a twenty five

1650
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 7: million dollar grant from Filatchi Business. But kids, it's got

1651
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 7: walk us through that process and how would the money

1652
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 7: be used a Forgotten Harvests.

1653
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 13: Well, first, it was an absolute blessing, right.

1654
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 23: So what many people may not realize is that what

1655
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 23: that's no process for us.

1656
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 13: This was literally an angel that dropped twenty five.

1657
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 23: Million dollars on that leapt And when I found out

1658
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 23: it was a call like literally the decision was already made,

1659
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:15,719
Speaker 23: and it was like one of it was an email

1660
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 23: that I could have missed, and it was just like, hey,

1661
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 23: you got a woman that wants to talk to you

1662
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 23: tomorrow about a gift. And I've gotten anonymous gifts before.

1663
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 23: So I get on the phone and she's like, is

1664
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 23: this Kirk made. I'm like yeah.

1665
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 13: It was like it's mister Maize. This conversation has to

1666
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 13: be confidential.

1667
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 23: I'm like, okay, no problem, and she says, do you

1668
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 23: know who Mackenzie Scott is.

1669
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 13: I'm like, nah, I don't. And she's like, well she's

1670
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 13: an author and miss that and the other.

1671
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:46,759
Speaker 23: And she didn't tell me about her affiliation with mister Bezos,

1672
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 23: nothing like that. And then she's like, well, mister Mays,

1673
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 23: we've done our research and we've heard about you, so

1674
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 23: we want to give you a gift.

1675
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 13: We're going to give you twenty five million dollars.

1676
01:25:56,240 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 7: I was like, what, okay, let's up, because numbers, see

1677
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:05,759
Speaker 7: see see see you you you know math, you've heard numbers.

1678
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 7: You know, we've heard twenty dollars, one hundred dollars. When

1679
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 7: somebody says twenty five million dollars to you over the

1680
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 7: phone with the word give Where were you at mentally?

1681
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 23: I was, I was, I was kind of dumbfound because

1682
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:24,480
Speaker 23: it stopped me because one, I don't think it's ridiculous

1683
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 23: to say that's the biggest gift I've ever gotten.

1684
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 13: It's the biggest gift that organization's ever gotten.

1685
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 23: You know, you don't understand getting something when you didn't

1686
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 23: go through the process and ask for it or anything

1687
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 23: like that.

1688
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 13: You know what I'm saying.

1689
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 23: If somebody came up to you and knock on your

1690
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 23: door and say, hey, you just want the lottery, here's

1691
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 23: one hundred million dollars, you kind of be suspicious that

1692
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 23: you didn't buy that ticket. At that point, I was like, man,

1693
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 23: are you for real? What twenty five million dollars? And

1694
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 23: I immediately I have to understand I had to admit.

1695
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 23: I immediately picked up my phone. I was like, Mackenzie Scott,

1696
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 23: who is this right? And the first thing that came

1697
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 23: up was Mackenzie Scott value that sixty billion dollars.

1698
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 13: I put the phone down.

1699
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 24: I was like, well, tell me more right, And what

1700
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 24: she told us was they have been she has been

1701
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 24: going through a process to give away all her cash

1702
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 24: and what she's doing is she's going through and doing

1703
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:29,480
Speaker 24: her own assessment of organizations and based off of leadership,

1704
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 24: based off a track record, based off of impact.

1705
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 13: There's certain areas that she actually is focused on. And

1706
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 13: we were.

1707
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 23: One of six thousand plus organizations that got scrutinized, that

1708
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 23: got boiled down. The three hundred and eighty four that

1709
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 23: got to give it was an absolute honor, one of

1710
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 23: seven in the state of Michigan. And I got to

1711
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 23: say one of few brothers in the work out of

1712
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 23: all food organizations in.

1713
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 13: Feed in America is one hundred plus food.

1714
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 23: Organizations that feed in America, only forty five gotta get right.

1715
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 13: So it was it was quite a.

1716
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 23: It was quite a head jerking moment because you got

1717
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 23: to understand, I'm in the middle of the We're in

1718
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 23: the middle of this pandemic. Yes, sir, we have a

1719
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 23: vision for the future that got interrupted because we had

1720
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 23: to turn to the community to help doing everything we're doing.

1721
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 23: We have a vision that involves us building a brand

1722
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 23: new facility to really change the way that we systemically

1723
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:33,440
Speaker 23: actually serve the community.

1724
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 13: And with everything going on, it's like, how are we

1725
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 13: going to do all of this?

1726
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 23: How are we gonna do all of this in this moment,

1727
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 23: and that gift was like the It was more than

1728
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 23: just help right now.

1729
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 10: It was.

1730
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 23: Verification and validation that every decision I made up to

1731
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 23: now was.

1732
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:59,719
Speaker 7: Right that fire, that fire was burning for the right reasons.

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01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 23: It's the best award I've ever gotten, and not just

1734
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 23: because of the money.

1735
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 13: It's the gesture.

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01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 7: Yes, the gesture.

1737
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 13: You know what I'm saying.

1738
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Speaker 23: It was backed up by a magnificent dollar amount that

1739
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 23: right now, what we're doing is, you know, you ask.

1740
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 13: How we're going to spend the money.

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01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 23: You know, that starts with conceptually understanding how we look

1742
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 23: at it, and if I can break that down, try

1743
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,440
Speaker 23: to do it in a short way. First and foremost,

1744
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 23: the effort we're in right now to transform how we

1745
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 23: deliver food to the community is inherent that we have

1746
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 23: to have a new facility forgotten harvest, going out and

1747
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 23: getting food every day from food providers, but also food

1748
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 23: coming in from the gross like from the bolt and

1749
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 23: commodity providers. We don't really have a capability inside of

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01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 23: our existing warehouse to mix all of that so that

1751
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 23: everybody can get what I would call an equitable mix

1752
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 23: of everything we get on a day any basis. Those

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01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 23: those route drivers go out and actually pick up from

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01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 23: each of those grocery stores and they just give to

1755
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 23: like the three or four community partners on their route.

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01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 23: Right What we're going to do in the future is

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01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 23: we're going to bring everything from every grocery store that

1758
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 23: we touch, all the farms, all the manufacturers. We're going

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01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,600
Speaker 23: to use the processes we have with our volunteers to

1760
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 23: actually mix all of that stuff so that there's not

1761
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 23: a line somewhere on the east side of town that

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01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 23: only got from those couple crokers, a couple Mayer or

1763
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 23: a couple grocery stores, and there's another line over here

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01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 23: that just.

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01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 13: Getting from the farms.

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01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 23: We want everybody to get as much as possible because

1767
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 23: the nature of food rescue is we don't really know

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01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 23: what we're gonna get on a daily.

1769
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 13: Basis, but we get so much that if.

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01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 23: We mix it all, people will be able to make

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01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 23: the right decisions to be able to get the meals

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01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:50,639
Speaker 23: they need so they can go home and make it

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01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 23: and solve the problem of food and security.

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01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 13: And I got to talk about that.

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01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 23: Food and security for us is a person or a

1776
01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 23: family not knowing where their next meal of the future

1777
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 23: is coming from an anxiety that comes from that is

1778
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,799
Speaker 23: that simple. So I use that to hold us, myself

1779
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 23: and our organization accountable. How do we address that definition

1780
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 23: and broken into that as knowledge, access, proximity, and then supply.

1781
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 23: So the way that translates into the way that forgotten

1782
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 23: harvest is going to actually transform or address that from

1783
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:21,680
Speaker 23: a systemic level is we.

1784
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 13: Got to change our communication.

1785
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 23: So we've also been looking at and analyzing the distribution

1786
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 23: territory that we're working in, and we've actually created data

1787
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:34,560
Speaker 23: systems to help us understand and qualify, but also quantify

1788
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 23: what food and security actually looks like in our community.

1789
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 23: We're collecting data from our community members that are getting

1790
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:44,679
Speaker 23: the food so that we can actually now have first

1791
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 23: hand information about where people are coming from, where some

1792
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 23: of their health mechanisms are, where some of their particular

1793
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 23: cultural preferences may be, and how we can.

1794
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 13: Potentially bring food closer to.

1795
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 23: The actual places where people are actually in need instead

1796
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 23: of just for on the place where people are picking

1797
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 23: up the food.

1798
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 13: So when we look at.

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01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 23: Look at this combination of being able to change the

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01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 23: way we move plus being able to change the way

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01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 23: we think as an organization, for Gotten Harvest is actually

1802
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:17,600
Speaker 23: transforming into a thinking and data driven organization, and the

1803
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 23: new facility is actually going to actually help enable us

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01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 23: to make that turn. That's already plan in place, That's

1805
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 23: already what I was doing, right, and we already raising

1806
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 23: the money for that. We already got cash coming in

1807
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 23: for that. And then we get this magnificent get from

1808
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 23: Ms Scott in the middle of all this, and my

1809
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 23: board is like now what, I'm like, well, yo, we

1810
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 23: already going deep. So now the question is how do

1811
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 23: we go wide? So there now there's some additional questions

1812
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 23: that we have about whether the throughput of the distribution

1813
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 23: outlets that we get a food to are actually adequate

1814
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 23: in their capacity in order to actually start the community.

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01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:55,640
Speaker 13: One of the largest.

1816
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 23: Challenges and people being able to get the food that

1817
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 23: they need is being able to get to the place

1818
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,719
Speaker 23: that's where it is in time. So it's like I said,

1819
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 23: back to that example I had earlier, If Grandma I

1820
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 23: can only come to the church on Wednesday from two

1821
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 23: to four to be able to get food out, what

1822
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 23: about the working family that can't actually get there. So

1823
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:17,759
Speaker 23: what we would like to see is a distribution network

1824
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 23: that has something closer than the retail hours.

1825
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 13: I'd like to eliminate the line.

1826
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 23: And the way that I think that we can eliminate

1827
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:26,680
Speaker 23: that line that wraps around the.

1828
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 13: Corner is we need to have places that look a

1829
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 13: lot more like grocery stores, that have hours that are

1830
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 13: a lot more like a retail establishment, but still get food.

1831
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 23: Away for free, but still has an actual high quality

1832
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 23: staff working in there, treating people with dignity and like

1833
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:44,600
Speaker 23: their customers that people come in there and they go

1834
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 23: get that food and they go home, and they go

1835
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 23: home with enough variety and enough volume so they can

1836
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 23: fix that problem and thereby and not have to worry

1837
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 23: about where the next meal, future meal is coming from.

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01:33:57,080 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 13: So everything that we do going forward with Forgotten is.

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01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 23: Going to actually help us actually widen our ability to

1840
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 23: affect the need that we're addressing. And the next step,

1841
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 23: I believe is when we move out of the building

1842
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 23: we're in this is about thirty thousand square feet and

1843
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 23: move into our seventy seven thousand square foot facility. I

1844
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 23: want to turn this old facility into community care centers

1845
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 23: and not only allows people to come in and shop

1846
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 23: at their regular pace like they will that they went

1847
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:29,839
Speaker 23: to any grocery store, but check out for free.

1848
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 13: And before you leave, there's going.

1849
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:34,639
Speaker 23: To be offices in here where some of our community partners.

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01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 23: We don't do this, but we can invite partners in

1851
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 23: to work on mental health services, housing, get your water

1852
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 23: cut on, get to get the lights cut on. And

1853
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 23: I want to bring our partners in to do that.

1854
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 23: So that'll be one facility to come, you know immediately,

1855
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 23: I mean, and then we can talk about other ways

1856
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:52,919
Speaker 23: to expand.

1857
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 13: But brother, as you may already know, everybody.

1858
01:34:56,680 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 23: Can can't really absorb the whole vision all that, so

1859
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:03,640
Speaker 23: I just give it out there. We move to the

1860
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:05,759
Speaker 23: next stage and then we can see the other horizon.

1861
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 23: We can see the horizon differently once we get down

1862
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 23: the road. So that's what it looks like in the

1863
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 23: short term. In the midst of all of that, we

1864
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 23: got some cash manage you to do to make sure

1865
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 23: we stay in our position and strength. And I'm gonna

1866
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 23: continue to just beat the streets. And I love to

1867
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 23: talk to our community, so I'm continue to beat the street,

1868
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,320
Speaker 23: make sure I got the approval and the sanction from

1869
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 23: our community as we make this turn.

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Speaker 7: Well, Kirk, let me just tell you this man, Thank

1871
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:30,720
Speaker 7: you for coming on the show that fire I got

1872
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:34,560
Speaker 7: I got to. It warmed me, okay, it warmed me, okay.

1873
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 7: So I know it's out there warming a lot of people.

1874
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 7: They're changing lives man, And definitely I want to come

1875
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 7: up there and visit you and Truge one of my

1876
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 7: favorite cities, and see that thirty three thousand square foot facility,

1877
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:48,719
Speaker 7: and you're going to move to the eventual, the seventy

1878
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 7: seven thousand squad foot facility, and I think you're absolutely

1879
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 7: right repurposing that old facility into a care center, a

1880
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 7: life center. I think just basically what you're saying, well

1881
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 7: you can. You can be educated and nourish not your

1882
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 7: body and your head. And that's what we need in

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Speaker 7: these diverse communities that are being underserved again forgotten to harvest.

1884
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 7: He is the CEO. I know how hey got there.

1885
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Speaker 7: I just had to let you guys hear how he

1886
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 7: got there and let him drop that humble veil and

1887
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:17,720
Speaker 7: tell us this story on money making conversation. Thank you,

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Speaker 7: Kurt Mays, Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 7: My interviews on money Making Conversation with celebrities, CEOs, entrepreneurs,

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Speaker 7: and people I like to call industry decision makers. My

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Speaker 7: next guest is Reggie Butler. Reggie is the founder and

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Speaker 7: CEO of Performance Paradigman, LLC and Executive Education Human Capital Consultancy.

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Speaker 7: His areas of expertise include high high performing team development,

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Speaker 7: organizational change management, diversity and inclusion, which is really important

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Speaker 7: in these days. Since twenty twenty has become the forefront

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Speaker 7: of all major corporations. Tone of employment and understanding, their

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Speaker 7: color and the way people speak should not be a differentiator.

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Speaker 7: It should be treated as equal. Training development, workforce retention strategies,

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Speaker 7: emotional intelligence, and executive coaching. Reggie believes the human connection

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Speaker 7: and understanding the cornerstone of changing life and behavior. Whe

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Speaker 7: Reggie works in collaboration with executive leadership teams to develop

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Speaker 7: and execute strategies to change organizational culture, build leadership bench strength,

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Speaker 7: and increase human capital effectiveness. Please work in the money

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Speaker 7: making conversations by Man Reggie Butler.

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Speaker 10: How you doing, Reggie, I'm doing well.

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Speaker 12: Man.

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Speaker 27: Good to be with you today. You're doing some important

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Speaker 27: work and you got to keep doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 27: We need you in this space to not stop or

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Speaker 27: back down.

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Speaker 7: Well, I can't back down, and I bring individuals on

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Speaker 7: the show like you, Reggie, so you can support what

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to do, because you know.

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Speaker 13: You're not.

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Speaker 7: Both are living a long life and we will live

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Speaker 7: even longer life. But somewhere along the line, as people

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Speaker 7: have put qualifiers, if you haven't done certain things at

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Speaker 7: a certain age, then you stuck. And that's where I

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Speaker 7: wanted to talk about initially with you, because that's the

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Speaker 7: whole part about pushing beyond what you're capable of, because

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Speaker 7: people can limit it, say and you reach your limit,

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Speaker 7: talk to us about that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 27: So, first of all, I just have this really strong

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Speaker 27: belief that another person's perception of me shouldn't define where

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Speaker 27: I go. And you got to think about what that

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Speaker 27: actually looks like.

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Speaker 10: In some spaces, there are.

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Speaker 27: People who wind up in careers or in positions, only

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Speaker 27: to find out later in their careers that's not what

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Speaker 27: they wanted to do, where they wanted to go, where

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Speaker 27: they wanted to be, how they wanted to do it,

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Speaker 27: because they were listening to somebody else's narrative that was

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Speaker 27: based on someone else's perception of their value or their worth.

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Speaker 27: So I spend time in this space trying to get

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Speaker 27: the people to understand and see things they can't see

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Speaker 27: for themselves, so they not only can explore, but reach

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Speaker 27: whatever next is for them by choice.

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Speaker 7: We talk about the path of resistance. Sometimes we live

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Speaker 7: our life through the past of leafs resistance. Reggie, Okay,

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Speaker 7: And that means that, like you said earlier, were relationship

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Speaker 7: we go deep like that. There are people in relationship

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Speaker 7: they should be getting out of. And there are people

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Speaker 7: who are at jobs they should be walking away from,

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Speaker 7: but they stay there out of fear. They stayed out

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Speaker 7: of there because they don't want to hear somebody complaining,

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Speaker 7: or they stay there because they don't want to hear

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Speaker 7: somebody tell them that they are questioning their decision making.

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Speaker 7: How you're coaching, do you push people past that because

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Speaker 7: you like a you're like a new modern day therapist.

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Speaker 7: You know, you're not putting us on the couch.

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Speaker 27: I'm right, yeah, So you know, Rashan, So, first of all,

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Speaker 27: I got to get people to be honest with themselves,

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Speaker 27: and I take people through, you know, a framework to

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Speaker 27: help them understand what their truth is about how they're

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Speaker 27: seeing the world, what the truth of somebody else is

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Speaker 27: like managing their perspectives. And then the highest order try

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Speaker 27: to get people to is accepting what they need to

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Speaker 27: accept in order to move forward, to make a difference.

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Speaker 27: So if I view that, if I look at that,

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Speaker 27: there are some people that haven't accepted what they need

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Speaker 27: to accept about themselves. And one of the big things

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Speaker 27: that people don't accept is that they're much better than

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Speaker 27: anybody else says they are because we let people define

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Speaker 27: who we are and what our wan coaches. And I've

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Speaker 27: put people into situations that say, let me show you

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Speaker 27: not only what your worth is, but you be able

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Speaker 27: to articulate that value.

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Speaker 10: Not somebody else do that for you.

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Speaker 27: And once a person starts to accept that, they also

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Speaker 27: start to see those things that they know they have

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Speaker 27: to move past. And that's that thing you're talking about

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Speaker 27: about resistance. Resistance comes at you when you are solid

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Speaker 27: and your confidence has no competition.

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Speaker 10: You know that, yes, you're confident in yourself and your abilities.

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Speaker 27: Resistance goes around you, you go right through it.

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Speaker 10: You've got to get people to see that. To get

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Speaker 10: people to.

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Speaker 7: See that, it's like that's why a ship has a point,

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Speaker 7: you know, and it goes through the water. You know,

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Speaker 7: it cuts through the resistance. That's what you're talking about,

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Speaker 7: you know. And as it cuts through the resistance, it

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Speaker 7: gets to the destination a lot faster. Now you've had

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Speaker 7: over twenty eight years was in the bio, but I'm

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Speaker 7: sure it's more years of experience and delivering this transformative

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Speaker 7: Like I told you, I've been doing this. I was eighteen.

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Speaker 7: When you really look at it, who you are, You

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Speaker 7: don't really be defined by the moment you defined out

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Speaker 7: how you were raised and who put these these seeds

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Speaker 7: in you? Who put these seeds in you. Let's let's

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Speaker 7: take a journey back a little bit, Reggie, who put

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Speaker 7: these seeds in you?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? So if I look at it, I'm going to

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Speaker 10: start back. So I started off as.

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Speaker 27: A classically training musician, so classic trained pianist, and for

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Speaker 27: years I thought that that was my path. And my father,

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Speaker 27: who's military, I was raised military. I've never served, but

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Speaker 27: I was raised military in the discipline that he instilled

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Speaker 27: in me about how to be successful through discipline and

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Speaker 27: doing what's necessary, do what you have to do so

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Speaker 27: you can do what you want to do.

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Speaker 10: And he instilled that in me.

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Speaker 27: Once I had made the decision, with his help and

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Speaker 27: the help of some other colleagues, that a classically pianist

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Speaker 27: in this body, at that time in my life, there

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Speaker 27: was a high probability I was not going to be

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Speaker 27: as successful as I wanted to be because of the

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Speaker 27: constructs of race around who I was. When my father

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Speaker 27: looked at me and he says, but that doesn't mean

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Speaker 27: you still can't be a musician like oh, and my

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Speaker 27: mom wonderful woman that she is. They created what I'm

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Speaker 27: going to call some of the things you do. They

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Speaker 27: decided to manage my life at the young age of fifteen.

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Speaker 27: So had a band here I am having a band

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Speaker 27: at fifteen and work and use That band played every

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Speaker 27: weekend eleven pm to two am, just doing all the things.

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Speaker 27: But what it taught me was the organization of skills

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Speaker 27: and the discipline of creating a team.

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Speaker 10: Because you know this about music.

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Speaker 27: Music is from my heart and from my soul, but

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Speaker 27: it is the foundation of everything we do. Because that

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Speaker 27: band would not be the band it is and was

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Speaker 27: the music we created would not have landed the way

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Speaker 27: it was supposed to if we didn't have structure. I

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Speaker 27: was leading that band. So from that it took me

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Speaker 27: all throughout my life. I used those tenets of what

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Speaker 27: it means to create a high performing team, what it

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Speaker 27: means to lead a team, what it means to deal

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Speaker 27: with dysfunction, what it means to deal with change when

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Speaker 27: change change comes up. And I've taken that all the

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Speaker 27: way throughout my professional life. Wound up being so interesting.

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Speaker 27: I wound up was a was a choir director at

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Speaker 27: a church and one of my one of my choir members.

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Speaker 10: Said, you realize you have a gift for speaking, you

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Speaker 10: should come.

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Speaker 27: You should come, you know, not out of the church,

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Speaker 27: but you should come. You know, speak it in corporate America.

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Speaker 27: I thought, I resisted that forever you did a school teacher.

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Speaker 27: A school teacher I had, that means I had twelve

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Speaker 27: months of pay and three months off. I was like,

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Speaker 27: I'm not messing up this formula. And then realized, you know,

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Speaker 27: after I substitute substituted as an instructor as a trainer

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Speaker 27: for this boot boutique firm in Cincinnati, Ohio called Globally

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Speaker 27: Management Consulting at the time, I'll never forget it. I

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Speaker 27: got a check for that day of training that I did.

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Speaker 27: I got it like three four weeks later. I looked

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Speaker 27: at it and I gave it back. I was like,

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Speaker 27: that's way too much money.

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Speaker 10: That wasn't for me. It's like teacher.

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Speaker 27: Only to realize that what she was trying to introduce

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Speaker 27: me to, which is what everyone has in their life.

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Speaker 10: They have what's called insight.

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Speaker 27: Humans people that continue to give you insights for things

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Speaker 27: you can't see for yourself. I wound up transitioning from

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Speaker 27: being a school teacher into the corporate space and doing

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Speaker 27: training and development, and at that firm at that time,

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Speaker 27: I ascended throughout that firm with some great mentors Vincent Brown,

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Speaker 27: Janet Reed, Sam Lynch, John Peeples. All the people that

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Speaker 27: were back at that firm at that time trained me,

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Speaker 27: mentored me, helped me develop the skill that I have

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Speaker 27: now now that I use in my own human capital consults.

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Speaker 27: So a lot of people along the way shaped me.

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Speaker 27: And I tell this to people all the time, never

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Speaker 27: forget who shaped you, right, because you didn't get where

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Speaker 27: you are by yourself, and now you owe.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know the thing about it, one hundred percent degree.

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Speaker 7: That's why. Because you're a unique individual because you bet

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Speaker 7: on yourself and you can't really tell people how you

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Speaker 7: generate income. You know, you can say it, but the

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Speaker 7: average person can't put though. Does he make money? Does

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Speaker 7: he have a nine to five? Does he work Monday

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Speaker 7: through Friday? When does he have off? Does he say vacation?

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Speaker 7: Does he have insurance? So you're that individual that really

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Speaker 7: steps out. You're the word a lot on faith and

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Speaker 7: faith is tied to you gifts. But I go back

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Speaker 7: to when you were fifteen year old and fifteen years old,

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Speaker 7: and your parents managing you. They were shaping the gift

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Speaker 7: because I know the power of music because I was

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Speaker 7: I played B flat clarinet, I played tennis, saxophone, so

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Speaker 7: I knew that. I know the power of music. Music

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Speaker 7: is so incredible from an intellectual and also from a

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Speaker 7: discipline standpoint. And as we see you today, I'm seeing

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Speaker 7: that same discipline. I'm seeing that same skill set of

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Speaker 7: live performances. I'm watching it right now that were just

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Speaker 7: incubated into you at such an early age. Now it's

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Speaker 7: translating those gifts. And I see you, Reginald, and I

2146
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Speaker 7: can call you Reginald your parents, but it's Reggie Butler.

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Speaker 7: Excuse me for stepping out into that parent land, but

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Speaker 7: I want to just say that in talking to you,

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Speaker 7: how do you get people to understand their value? Because

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Speaker 7: you're in the human capital and sometimes and I want

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Speaker 7: to just say this real quick before we get this clear.

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Speaker 7: We can blame a lot of issues on the company

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Speaker 7: we work for. We can blame a lot of issues

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Speaker 7: on race, we can blame a lot of issues on gender.

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Speaker 7: But the core of making that change has to start

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Speaker 7: with how we value ourselves.

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Speaker 10: That's right, talk to us.

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Speaker 7: That's right.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, and so one of the frames that try to

2160
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Speaker 27: put people through.

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Speaker 10: So there's two ways to look at it.

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Speaker 27: One way is to look at your lived experiences and

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Speaker 27: the comfort zone radius you have around your lived experience.

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Speaker 27: So let's say you grew up in a dual family household,

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Speaker 27: you went to college, you have all these lived experiences

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Speaker 27: the shape who you are and give you the messages.

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Speaker 27: That's only one version of a lived experiences. We occupy

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Speaker 27: and cohabitate a world with people that have very different

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Speaker 27: lived experiences. And so how you find your value is

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Speaker 27: you look at the comfort zone radis you have around

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Speaker 27: your own life, your lived experiences, and you overlay that

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Speaker 27: on the people that you need to interact with to

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Speaker 27: get you to next or to be in service to

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Speaker 27: somebody else.

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Speaker 10: And you look up, you step back one day and go.

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Speaker 27: I actually have a purpose, Like I'm supposed to be

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Speaker 27: here in this space doing this thing because it serves something.

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Speaker 27: Tell people all the time, always be in service of

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Speaker 27: changing an outcome, not in service of yourself. Some people

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Speaker 27: get bristle at that because they start to think of

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Speaker 27: themselves as well.

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Speaker 10: That's just being self.

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Speaker 27: I'm saying, It's not about being selfish or not being selfish.

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Speaker 27: But when you live through the lens of who are

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Speaker 27: you helping or what condition are you improving, you live

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Speaker 27: a much you live a much richer life. And that's

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Speaker 27: where you start to look back at yourself and say,

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Speaker 27: now I know what my value proposition is. One thing

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Speaker 27: I tell entrepreneurs all the time, don't negotiate your price,

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Speaker 27: and they go, but I have to because negotiation is

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Speaker 27: part of the thing. It's like, every time you leave

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Speaker 27: with negotiation, that doesn't mean you That means you don't

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Speaker 27: know what you're worth right, know what you're worth first,

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Speaker 27: and then negotiate from that, and negotiation from that could

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Speaker 27: be well, then I must not be your person for

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Speaker 27: today because you can't afford it. But that people have to.

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Speaker 27: You have to get there first. And it's not doesn't

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Speaker 27: happen by accident. It's very intentional. And what I'm trying

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Speaker 27: to get people to really understand Brushan and you, of

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Speaker 27: all people, I know, you know this that different people,

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Speaker 27: because their different life experiences, think there's only one or

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Speaker 27: two ways to do things.

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Speaker 7: Yes, that's it's not true.

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Speaker 27: There are multiple ways to get to certain locations. There

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Speaker 27: is not just one way, and you have to own

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Speaker 27: this thing called change. And I even took this. Most

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Speaker 27: recently I've started doing it. I've created a module again

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Speaker 27: using music that's called find your Rhythm and find your Rhythm.

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Speaker 27: It literally is about any change management principle and organizational

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Speaker 27: designs and things like that. What people have to do

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Speaker 27: is find their rhythm. So I want you to think

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Speaker 27: about people who because of the pandemic. You know, there's

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Speaker 27: three pandemics out there. There's the health pandemic. Yes, there's

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Speaker 27: a racial pandemics, there's an economic pandemic. And in the

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Speaker 27: last fifteen months, we've seen people have to deal with

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Speaker 27: that those pandemics, yes, and they've.

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Speaker 10: Lost their rhythm.

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Speaker 27: Now everybody's tiding nobody, let's go back to work and

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Speaker 27: going back to work, like, how do you find your

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Speaker 27: rhythm to get back into what I tell people to

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Speaker 27: stop saying, which is the new normal?

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Speaker 13: Right?

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Speaker 10: Stop it?

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Speaker 27: Stop saying the new normal because most of you didn't

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01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 27: like the last normal, right, and we're about to go through.

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Speaker 27: You have to find your rhythm. And it's not return

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01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:11,559
Speaker 27: to work, it's returned to life.

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Speaker 10: You know, you want to deal with that. Man.

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Speaker 7: You know, when I hear you say that, you know,

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Speaker 7: I the thing that because I've been fortunate in my life.

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Speaker 7: I work for the Post Office, I worked for IBM,

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Speaker 7: so I've worked a forty hour shift. I don't understand

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01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 7: hourly wage. I understand how to work over time. And

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01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:33,599
Speaker 7: then the process individual and a personal job frustration because

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Speaker 7: you deal with a lot of individuals who live in

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Speaker 7: that forty hour weeks structure. Because we're going to talk

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Speaker 7: about Google contracts, you just recently to developed their own diversity,

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Speaker 7: equity and inclusion programs. I talk about that because when

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Speaker 7: you come in and do a program like that, there

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Speaker 7: has to be two sides of this development. There has

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Speaker 7: been an acknowledgement that just because you feel that another

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Speaker 7: person always Let me just share this quick story with you,

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Speaker 7: right quick. I bem. I got hired with two other

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01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:08,680
Speaker 7: white guys and I came in simultaneously, and my supervisor

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01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 7: asked me what was my goals? What did I want

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Speaker 7: to do? And I told him I didn't know at

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Speaker 7: the time. Okay, he said, okay, whenever you figured out

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Speaker 7: Rashan come back and I come in, just tell me

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01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 7: that my door's open. Well, two months went by, three

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Speaker 7: months went by. I still hadn't went back in that door,

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Speaker 7: and the white guys started getting other assignments, and guess what.

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01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 7: I started huddling up with my Hey, this is wrong.

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01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 7: It is a racial thing going on here, Rachel, what's

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01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:35,800
Speaker 7: going on here? And I went and storming in that

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Speaker 7: office and sat down with my supervisory. Hey man, look

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Speaker 7: we started at the same time. Why are they doing

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Speaker 7: more than I'm doing? He said. Rashan, I asked you

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Speaker 7: on your first day, what were your goals? What did

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01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 7: you want to do in this company? You told me

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Speaker 7: you're gonna get back with me. Well they got back

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Speaker 7: with me to their very first day, and they're only

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Speaker 7: doing the things that they I'm helping them do the

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Speaker 7: things that they said they want to accomplish.

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Speaker 10: It the company.

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Speaker 7: I say that to put that statement out in front

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Speaker 7: of you, to say, I'm not gonna point in their

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01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:07,160
Speaker 7: fingers on this. Reggie, I'm gonna tell you I've been

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Speaker 7: the I want to say, the person who sitting in

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01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:13,960
Speaker 7: the corner mad, But I didn't do my job, So

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Speaker 7: who am I mad at? So that now you have

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Speaker 7: to come in with a company like Google try to

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Speaker 7: change the environment. But know there are some ushawn sitting

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Speaker 7: out there. Who told Google adorn thing about what they

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Speaker 7: want to do?

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Speaker 10: Correct? Yes, yeah, and I will tell you one of

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Speaker 10: the things.

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Speaker 27: So there are a lot of companies in the portfolios,

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Speaker 27: you know, all the way from big tech and absolute

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Speaker 27: health care and retail and you know, professional services, automotive,

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Speaker 27: all the things.

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Speaker 10: But here's here's what happens when you have an organization

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01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:47,680
Speaker 10: that that's big, like a Google.

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01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 27: They had the resources to actually investigate and use data

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Speaker 27: to actually drive towards the source of what the issue is.

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Speaker 10: So they had a hypothesis.

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Speaker 27: That the people that are black, Latin X and women

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01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:04,680
Speaker 27: are having different lived experiences inside the organization. And instead

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Speaker 27: of going to the mad rushans, instead of going to

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Speaker 27: the people in the organization and trying to focus on

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Speaker 27: making them feel better, they decided, let's go to the

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Speaker 27: manager population who makes decisions about them every day and

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Speaker 27: get them to understand that the lived experiences aren't the same.

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Speaker 10: And it was.

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Speaker 27: It's amazing when when an organization understands that it's about

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Speaker 27: shifting the culture, not changing the people.

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Speaker 10: Yes, and that's what I do at the firm.

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Speaker 27: We actually work across change management, but we do it

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Speaker 27: through the lens of culture. So if there's a people

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Speaker 27: issue to address, we address it through the culture.

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Speaker 10: We don't address it through the people. We address it

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Speaker 10: through the.

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Speaker 27: Culture, and sometimes the culture will dictate to us after

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Speaker 27: we do some auditor or something like that is to

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Speaker 27: find out where's the issue, where's the problem, let's solve it.

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Speaker 27: And so what we wound up doing, which is while

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Speaker 27: the Forbes article we got highlighted, we created a very

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Speaker 27: experiential program that was at the intersection of understanding the

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Speaker 27: experience of black and brown people, of women, and anybody

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Speaker 27: that was in an underrepresented group and taking it through

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Speaker 27: the lens of art. So we use performance artists, we

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01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 27: use singers, we use musicians, we use drummers, we use

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Speaker 27: interpretive dancers, same type of diversity training that most people

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Speaker 27: would say, so let's talk about what it's like to

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Speaker 27: be black here at this organization. Let's talk about what

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Speaker 27: it's like instead of just talking to them, we showed them, right,

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Speaker 27: We created an experience. So just think you have a

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Speaker 27: room of dominant culture people, mostly white, sitting there trying

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Speaker 27: to understand what it's like to be somebody that's not them,

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Speaker 27: that doesn't have the lived experience they do.

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Speaker 10: But the way they get the message is through art.

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Speaker 27: So we have someone curate an art piece and explain

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Speaker 27: why this piece of art was done and the reason

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Speaker 27: it was done because this person feels invisible and that's

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Speaker 27: why this piece of art looks like that. We would

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Speaker 27: then turn to the audience and say, is there anybody

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Speaker 27: on your team that feels like they are invisible? And

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Speaker 27: what's that reason? Can you do anything about it? It

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Speaker 27: was so different. We took some survey results. This was

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Speaker 27: one of the most interesting things. You know, how you

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Speaker 27: do these inclusions for every organization that's surveys to see

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Speaker 27: how their people feel. And one of the questions was

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Speaker 27: about inclusion. Do you feel like you feel included? And

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Speaker 27: the score was pretty low. We took some of the

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Speaker 27: comments from the survey that said, this is what it

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Speaker 27: feels like for me to be here, I don't feel

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Speaker 27: like I'm seeing etcetera, etc. We took those comments, we

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Speaker 27: strung them together, put a music bed under it, and

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Speaker 27: then had dancers to interpret the dance to it to

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Speaker 27: show the emotion. Because as long as there's just data

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Speaker 27: in one dimension on a page in a survey, in

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01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 27: a spreadsheet, you can't feel that. So we created a

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Speaker 27: story and a narrative that allowed people to feel just

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Speaker 27: the next space we sit in, I.

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Speaker 10: Am to rushine. You know this.

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Speaker 27: You can talk and complain all you want. You get

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01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:04,120
Speaker 27: somebody to feel, I mean, connect the emotion with the intellect.

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Speaker 10: You won't get changed.

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Speaker 7: To happen, you know, And you absolutely correct. And because

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01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:12,200
Speaker 7: this is what this interview is about. Change also about

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01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 7: acceptance also by recognizing, like I said, you're not invisible,

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01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:20,320
Speaker 7: and so you know, being that I've walked these different

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Speaker 7: lanes and entertainment you know, uh, the corporateb be and

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01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:27,520
Speaker 7: an entrepreneur, and then but that workspace that's really the

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01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:32,240
Speaker 7: key dynamic and especially have working remotely, that's the that's

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Speaker 7: the other part of the conversation. You broke down the

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Speaker 7: three that working remotely now also leads to damage because

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01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:42,520
Speaker 7: of the fact that how do you how do you

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01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:45,840
Speaker 7: properly supervise somebody who's working from home? How do you

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Speaker 7: properly promote somebody who's working from home? Which creates another

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01:59:49,600 --> 01:59:53,320
Speaker 7: anks And am I being treated right? Am I going

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01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 7: to get a proper recognition for the work I'm producing?

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01:59:56,960 --> 01:59:59,320
Speaker 7: Your world has gotten even more complicated in.

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Speaker 10: A good way.

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Speaker 7: That's right in a good way with the remote tool

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Speaker 7: that's suddenly been thrown into your little tool box.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, I have no shortage of examples of people doing

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Speaker 27: the on ramp back into work. So you do realize,

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Speaker 27: I think everybody knows this.

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Speaker 10: So a lot of.

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Speaker 27: Companies actually experience exponential growth over the last fifteen months,

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Speaker 27: and they hired a lot of people virtually and they

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02:00:21,760 --> 02:00:25,120
Speaker 27: never met them. Yes, so they have to deal with that.

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Speaker 27: Then you have some companies that decided, hey, I didn't

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Speaker 27: know this flexible work thing was actually going to work,

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Speaker 27: and now there's working, I don't need them to come

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Speaker 27: back and need them to stay home. Okay, So now

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Speaker 27: you got that population. Then you have the what everybody's

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Speaker 27: saying is the hybrid population. We're your own rotation that

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Speaker 27: comes to the building, but you only have to come

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Speaker 27: in for two days and you have to rotate with

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Speaker 27: somebody else.

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Speaker 10: Now you've got a.

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Speaker 27: Manager who's never ever had to do that before. They

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Speaker 27: don't know how to do that, and they are ill equipped.

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Speaker 27: They're well intended though, because they are trying. And what

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Speaker 27: we try to do is put some framing around to

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Speaker 27: say just the just all of the different versions and

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Speaker 27: iterations you're gonna have to go through. Do not look

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Speaker 27: for a new normal soon.

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Speaker 10: Because it's a phased approach.

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Speaker 7: Yes it is.

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Speaker 27: You still have to create human connection and you have

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Speaker 27: to do it through screens. I'm gonna give you. I'm

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Speaker 27: give you a tip. I told a manager the other day.

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Speaker 27: I said, when you everybody's back, you've been doing all

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Speaker 27: these things, would you stop asking people on Mondays how

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Speaker 27: their weekend was?

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Speaker 13: Right?

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Speaker 27: That is not inclusive? What are you talking about? I said,

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Speaker 27: think about the pandemic all of them? Do you realize

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Speaker 27: that some people the last thing they want to talk

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Speaker 27: about what they had to deal with on the weekend.

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Speaker 27: I lost somebody to COVID, I'm going through a divorce,

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Speaker 27: my friends are out of jobs. I'm still trying, still

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Speaker 27: doing zoom school. But I hear some of my colleagues

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Speaker 27: on the call. When you ask what did you do

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Speaker 27: over the weekend? They say, oh, I was able to

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Speaker 27: go hiking. I feel so much better now. It's like,

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Speaker 27: that's not my experience, right, Right, I'm telling managers now,

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Speaker 27: pay attention to the questions you ask. A much better

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Speaker 27: question is not how is your weekend? A better question

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Speaker 27: as a leader, right, now is to say what's important

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Speaker 27: to you this week and how can I help?

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Speaker 7: And also what's important how are you doing? That's important too,

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Speaker 7: because what happens is the interesting thing about the work

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Speaker 7: and a home dynamic Reggie, as we wrapped us up,

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Speaker 7: is that you got kids. You might have a wife

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Speaker 7: running around in the background, you might have a dog barking.

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Speaker 7: You might you know you're an electrician, might show up

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Speaker 7: at the same time that your meetings going on with

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Speaker 7: your zoom call. It's bringing on a whole slew of

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Speaker 7: dynamics that can make you look unprofessional, which can in

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Speaker 7: turn impact how you think you're being perceived by the

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Speaker 7: company that's hiring you. So when you lay out these

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Speaker 7: shields and when you when you get hired by a

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Speaker 7: company like Google, like I said, they brought you in

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Speaker 7: and you use these bigger words diversity, training, equity, inclusion,

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Speaker 7: that's a lot to put on your plate. How do

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Speaker 7: you how do you not replicate because every situation is different.

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Speaker 7: I always say that fintechic health companies, you don't bring

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Speaker 7: the same model in. How do you bring a model

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Speaker 7: in and how do you survey the right approach to

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Speaker 7: that particular company's needs.

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Speaker 27: Well, some of it is is most companies already have

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Speaker 27: identified what the problem is. They're still working on this source.

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Speaker 27: So we try to go in and say, I don't

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Speaker 27: need you to do new work with me. I don't

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Speaker 27: need you to go look up stuff that you've already

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Speaker 27: looked up. I need to start where you are, and

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Speaker 27: which I try to get. You know, companies, businesses, people's

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Speaker 27: individuals start where you are, not where you were, right,

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Speaker 27: and way too many people going, well, let's go back

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Speaker 27: and let's study the past so we can figure out

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Speaker 27: how to deal with now. And I'm going, can we

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Speaker 27: start with now and.

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Speaker 10: Focus on the future.

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Speaker 27: You think about that the past already happened. Yes, you

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Speaker 27: have so much data, so much surveys. How much data

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Speaker 27: do you need to know that things are just.

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Speaker 7: A little messed up?

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Speaker 27: Yes, yes, and that there is an answer. Let's go

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Speaker 27: with what we know and move forward. I tell people

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Speaker 27: all the time, create forward momentum. If you're not creating

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Speaker 27: forward momentum, you're holding things back. Answer the question every

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Speaker 27: single day, what did I do this week that created

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Speaker 27: traction and momentum. I call it the relevancy paradigm. You

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Speaker 27: spend a lot of energy on a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 27: You do a lot of actions. If it's not having

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Speaker 27: any impact and you're not creating any momentum, then make

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Speaker 27: the business choice and the human choice to stop focusing

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Speaker 7: much because you probably know that yourself. You know, I've

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