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Speaker 8: that after the winter that they've had.

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Speaker 3: That's my question. Yeah, I think it's a very fair

431
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Speaker 3: question out so, and I think it's hard, Like, you know,

432
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Speaker 3: are more people going to show up if they have

433
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Speaker 3: a three hundred and fifty million dollars payroll? I don't know.

434
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Speaker 3: I don't have the answer to that. That's legitimately a

435
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Speaker 3: question I always ask, right like, yeah, yeah, sure, okay.

436
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Speaker 3: But so let's let let me ask you this because

437
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Speaker 3: I totally totally understand, and I think that is very

438
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Speaker 3: fair criticism. But and I was doing this earlier when

439
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Speaker 3: I was just monking around. I was driving around. To me,

440
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Speaker 3: when you take a look at this offseason, the Marlins

441
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Speaker 3: acquired Christian Bethancourt. Is that an upgrade over Jacob Stallings?

442
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 3: I would say, So you have Josh Bell at first base,

443
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 3: you have the two time batting title champion at second.

444
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 3: I am fully convinced you're going to see like a

445
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 3: Tim Anderson at shortstop or in a med Rosario if

446
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Speaker 3: you put one of those guys at shortstop with Jake

447
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Speaker 3: Berger at third in an outfield at some point that

448
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 3: kind of features a Daily Cruz, a Chisholm, a Sanchez,

449
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 3: a Nick Court and something like that. And that pitching

450
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Speaker 3: staff with skipping charge who's no nonsense and he's not

451
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Speaker 3: going to tolerate nonsense. What why can't that team vye

452
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Speaker 3: for that final wildcard spot? And I'm not trying to

453
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Speaker 3: look at that. I'm not trying to be like the

454
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Speaker 3: eternal optimist. I would love it if they spent two

455
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Speaker 3: hundred million dollars and went and got J. D. Martinez tomorrow.

456
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Speaker 3: And I understand that, you know, Tim Anderson might not

457
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Speaker 3: be the guy who used to be, but he's probably

458
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Speaker 3: a guy that would love a fresh start and just

459
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Speaker 3: a breath of fresh air where we all understand that.

460
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Speaker 3: I wish they'd spend a half a billion dollars. It'd

461
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Speaker 3: be really fun. That's fun to monkey around with when

462
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Speaker 3: you have that kind of money. But when I look

463
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Speaker 3: at what they've done behind the play, you get a

464
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Speaker 3: full year of Josh Bell and Jake Berger, who are

465
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Speaker 3: going to compensate for some of the power that was

466
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Speaker 3: lost from Jorge Solaire. Jazz has to stay healthy. I

467
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Speaker 3: know we have this conversation every single year, and something

468
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 3: goes wrong and he misses seventy games. But if the

469
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Speaker 3: kid doesn't, if he only misses twenty and he plays

470
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Speaker 3: one hundred and forty games, one hundred and thirty five games,

471
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Speaker 3: I think they're going to make up for the lost power.

472
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Speaker 3: I think they have a little bit of depth in

473
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Speaker 3: the starting pitching department, by the way, which was obviously

474
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Speaker 3: a point of contention at the end of last year

475
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Speaker 3: when they simply ran out of it. I don't think

476
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Speaker 3: there's any way to being around the bush, Like that's

477
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Speaker 3: just my question, like why can't this team buy for

478
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Speaker 3: that third and final wildcard spot in the National League,

479
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Speaker 3: and again they have to stay moderately healthy. But Alex,

480
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Speaker 3: I think it's very fair. I think it's a very

481
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Speaker 3: fair question, and I don't try to look at it

482
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Speaker 3: with glass half full. I'm just looking at it realistically.

483
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Speaker 3: With what they're playing with right now, and I think

484
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Speaker 3: they've got a little better. They've lost so well, and

485
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Speaker 3: I've got to find the innings from Sandy. If they

486
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Speaker 3: can do that, why can't this team be competitive in

487
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Speaker 3: August and septemb Bryant. Maybe I'm totally wrong, but we'll see.

488
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Speaker 6: I guess the Devil's argument would be sort of, you know,

489
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Speaker 6: why for the third wildcards, Well, why shouldn't they be,

490
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Speaker 6: you know, putting all chips for it. Obviously you need

491
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Speaker 6: sustainable success, but they just made the postseason. Maybe try

492
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Speaker 6: and be second in the division. I know the Brads

493
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Speaker 6: are just unreachable, but try and be the first wildcard team.

494
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Speaker 6: You know, it's not just sneaking out of the postseason,

495
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Speaker 6: it's winning the damn.

496
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Speaker 5: Thing, you know.

497
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Speaker 7: And just to add on to what Isaac said, I

498
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Speaker 7: mean I think you mentioned this too, Isaac. I mean,

499
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Speaker 7: the Mets don't.

500
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Speaker 3: Look like they're going to compete very much this year.

501
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Speaker 3: National saw have another year left.

502
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Speaker 5: I mean it's kind of open.

503
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Speaker 6: There's a bit of a window because you look at

504
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Speaker 6: the other teams that didn't do.

505
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Speaker 5: Really well, actually, the Padres, the Cardinals, those.

506
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Speaker 6: Teams that they didn't get much better either, So there's

507
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Speaker 6: still another window for your wildcard hopes and maybe to

508
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Speaker 6: be first.

509
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Speaker 5: But and I do agree.

510
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Speaker 6: They got better, they unequivalently got better this offseason. But

511
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Speaker 6: I think they're just like one big move away from saying, okay, hey,

512
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Speaker 6: we can compete for the division.

513
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Speaker 4: And you see what sorry, no go ahead, no go ahead, seriously,

514
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Speaker 4: and you see what the diamond Back? What happened with

515
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Speaker 4: the Diamondbacks? You make it into the playoffs, anything can happen.

516
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Speaker 3: Look, I said this, six teams from the National League

517
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Speaker 3: make the postseason. Why can't the Marlins be one of them?

518
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Speaker 3: With the roster that they have? Am I totally wrong

519
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 3: on that? Like they can pitch really well, maybe not

520
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Speaker 3: just a third and final Okay, go just go man.

521
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Speaker 3: Like I think people underestimated last year the importance of

522
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Speaker 3: Skip Schumacher and the difference he made. Like I'm telling

523
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Speaker 3: you right now, and you guys know this, but it's

524
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Speaker 3: just a culture. It's just no nonsense. It's like, if

525
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Speaker 3: you're here in this clubhouse, we're winning like every day.

526
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Speaker 3: It's the middle of June, it's a getaway day. You've

527
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Speaker 3: lost three in a row. We're winning today and we're

528
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Speaker 3: flying home. We're gonna go win the next day. And

529
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Speaker 3: that's kind of like what he's instilled these guys, and

530
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Speaker 3: it just gives me a lot of belief and a

531
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Speaker 3: lot of confidence. And I'm sure Skip is saying, hey,

532
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Speaker 3: give me a couple more guys, give me a couple

533
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Speaker 3: more guys of my pitching staff. I'll see, we'll see

534
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Speaker 3: what they do. They're not done. I know it, they're

535
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Speaker 3: not done. And I'm sure they'll sign a major league

536
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 3: free agent. We can put that whole thing to bed.

537
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Speaker 3: But I truly believe, even with the roster that they

538
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Speaker 3: have currently just constructed, there's no that that's like not

539
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Speaker 3: one hundred lost team. Sorry, it's not like that's a

540
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Speaker 3: very competitive team the one that they're gonna put on

541
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Speaker 3: the field this year. And again, Peter Bendex, very true

542
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Speaker 3: to his word, didn't come here and say cionar to

543
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Speaker 3: fifteen guys, and I'm gonna do this the way I

544
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Speaker 3: want to do it, and you know, so be it.

545
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Speaker 6: I agree they're not one hundred lost team, but I

546
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Speaker 6: also don't think that they're an eighty four win team

547
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Speaker 6: against so just because they were very very lucky last

548
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Speaker 6: all those one run wins, all those clutch moments. Can

549
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Speaker 6: we really bank on those things happening again?

550
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Speaker 5: That?

551
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Speaker 7: But then you look at Philly and look at that postseason.

552
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Speaker 7: I mean, the Marlins didn't have their luck at all there.

553
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Speaker 7: I mean, and then you look at the wildk I mean,

554
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Speaker 7: the Marlins are the worst offensive team that ever make

555
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Speaker 7: the playoffs according to run differential negative fifty seven. I mean,

556
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Speaker 7: you can't bank on I mean, and on top of that,

557
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Speaker 7: you're losing core histal Eric, who's arguably your most clutch

558
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Speaker 7: player on this team. You're losing two hundred innings, two

559
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 7: hundred strikeouts of Sandil Contra. I mean, I really can't

560
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 7: see this team winning eighty four games. But they could

561
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Speaker 7: prove us wrong once again. They could have their Marlins

562
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Speaker 7: magic and have the most one run wins in baseball. Again.

563
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Speaker 3: Here, here's the other here's the other thing too. They

564
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Speaker 3: haven't lost a lot in the way of pitching, okay,

565
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Speaker 3: and they have really good guys that can pitch, not

566
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Speaker 3: just starting, but obviously relievers and guys that can close

567
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Speaker 3: it out. The way that this team is constructed, it's

568
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Speaker 3: really hard to find yourself down like three or four

569
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Speaker 3: runs at night. They're very tightly contested all the time,

570
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Speaker 3: and it's probably not an offense. It's gonna blow you away.

571
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Speaker 3: And I understand that they were lucky last year in

572
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Speaker 3: the one run win department, but they were in those

573
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Speaker 3: positions kind of because of the way that they were constructed,

574
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Speaker 3: Like we're gonna pitch really well, and we're you know,

575
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: if we're gonna lose, gonna we're gonna lose by a

576
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 3: run or two. And of course everybody gets you know,

577
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: their lids blown off once in a while, but you know,

578
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: there's a reason they were able to come back via

579
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Speaker 3: one swing in the eighth inning or whatever. So like,

580
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Speaker 3: I'm high on them, and I'm not trying to say

581
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Speaker 3: that they're going toe to toe with the Braves here

582
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 3: or whatever, but dude, like this team, I just feel

583
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 3: like the narrative has gotten out there because they haven't

584
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: signed one single major league free agent that they've blown

585
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 3: the whole thing up and they're no good.

586
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Speaker 5: I just stop.

587
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: It's a lot of the same guys and football players. Man,

588
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 3: Like they can pitch, they're good players, and who's to

589
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 3: say if they're in contention in the middle of this summer, Like,

590
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 3: can we discuss that they would try to upgrade the team. Well, yeah,

591
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 3: why you know, why not? They did it last year.

592
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 3: Bruce Sherman opened his pockets and said, hey, here's resources,

593
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: go make the right moves, and they did. Kim made

594
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 3: the right moves, and bellen Berger helped propel them into

595
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Speaker 3: the playoffs. So let's roll the dice. I don't think

596
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: that done. I think they're going to go sign somebody

597
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 3: that people are going to be very happy with and

598
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: let's see how it plays out. Man, they could have

599
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 3: fifteen injuries, the whole thing can blow up. They could

600
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 3: start winning some crazy games again, and all of a sudden,

601
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: it's the middle of July with the trade deadline breathing

602
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: right down your neck, and it's go time and it's

603
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 3: time to make a move.

604
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Speaker 7: And yeah, and even without Sandy, this is still I

605
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Speaker 7: was telling I think I've mentioned editions.

606
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Speaker 3: This is still a really good rotation.

607
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Speaker 7: You have Lozardo, ury Brax, Trevor Cabrera, but Edward Cabrera

608
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Speaker 7: still in the rotation. So it's still one of the

609
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Speaker 7: better rotations in the national Lee itself.

610
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Speaker 3: And maybe so let me ask you guys something that's

611
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Speaker 3: I think it's interesting. You bring up the starting pitching Lozardo.

612
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Speaker 3: It's assuming Lozardo's not going anywhere, Yury Garrett Rogers. I'll

613
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Speaker 3: say Cabrera lost at last. And here's why there's rumors

614
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 3: out there that he's being dangled to Pittsburgh. So if

615
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 3: Edward Cabrera gets traded, is aj Puck your fifth starter?

616
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Speaker 5: No?

617
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Speaker 3: I hope No. That was a quick no. Why not?

618
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Speaker 3: Why not? He's not a starter, but he was in

619
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Speaker 3: the athletics. We're going to make him a start to

620
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: last year until the day the Martins don't.

621
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Speaker 4: I just don't see it.

622
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Speaker 5: You can't say it like this.

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Speaker 7: No, he's not proven yet, And I mean you still

624
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Speaker 7: have Ryan Weathers, who's who they say swing man. But

625
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Speaker 7: if Edward's gone, I mean you're gonna have to go

626
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Speaker 7: Ryan Weathers. And you still have Max Meyer, who I

627
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Speaker 7: know you don't like as the starter, Isaac, but Max

628
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 7: Meyer was at one point the top prospect in this organization.

629
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Speaker 5: And there's a reason he was.

630
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Speaker 3: I mean, he ramped up.

631
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Speaker 5: Really quickly through the minor leagues. There's a lot to

632
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Speaker 5: like with those two guys.

633
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Speaker 3: So I think I think, I think it's either Puck

634
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: or Weathers who would take the fifth spot. And I'm

635
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Speaker 3: super intrigued by aj Puck being a starting pitcher. I

636
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Speaker 3: don't know how it's going to go. Obviously, he was

637
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Speaker 3: one of the best in the country when he's in college.

638
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: We're talking some years back now, and you know, he

639
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 3: was very, very good out of the bullpen. Last year.

640
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: He struggled at times, but all in all, I thought

641
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Speaker 3: he had a great season. And there's depth, you know,

642
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: what is Max Meyer looked like in a couple of

643
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Speaker 3: months when he gets his feet wet in Triple A

644
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Speaker 3: and you know, there's a multitude of other guys, and

645
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Speaker 3: obviously you have guys in a pinch. You know, smelts

646
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Speaker 3: her non roster invite the one thing that they have

647
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Speaker 3: done that I do like. And as long as guys

648
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Speaker 3: non roster invitees don't latch on with somebody else and

649
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Speaker 3: that happens or whatever, if they can stockpile some guys

650
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Speaker 3: that have starts in the big leagues in Triple A,

651
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Speaker 3: you're just you're not worried about it when you need it.

652
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Speaker 3: It just felt like at times last year is like,

653
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Speaker 3: where's how who you know, who's they lost him? Who's starting? Right?

654
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Speaker 3: Like now, it feels like there's some depth in that

655
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Speaker 3: every team meets depth in terms of starting pitching.

656
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Speaker 8: But we'll see it's so many, so many.

657
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Speaker 2: Hold that fought real quick, guy like, hold that fought

658
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Speaker 2: real quick. Or at the thirty minute mark, let's go

659
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Speaker 2: into a little break. We'll come back everyone refreshed, relind,

660
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Speaker 2: We'll talk about pitches and catchers, We'll talk about the

661
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Speaker 2: roster move that the Mormons have made DFA, and we'll

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Speaker 2: Rights, all right, and we are back. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if we had a flip flish. I wasn't I wasn't

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Speaker 2: told of that. I I didn't know.

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Speaker 9: I did go into it quickly for some levity in

682
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Speaker 9: here in a transition, and this is an easier version

683
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Speaker 9: that I think even Kyle could handlew seconds to ponder

684
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Speaker 9: over it. What we do, Kyle is that we come

685
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Speaker 9: up with these mystery players who are former Marlins players

686
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Speaker 9: that have since left there since they're doing something else

687
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Speaker 9: now they've flipped. And for this one, this is Isaac's idea,

688
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Speaker 9: but is.

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Speaker 4: Just redeem yourself for Jeopardy.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but this one is a slightly different style. We're

691
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Speaker 9: picking in the spirit of spring training. We're picking somebody

692
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Speaker 9: who's former Marlin that's now a non roster invitee at

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Speaker 9: somebody else's camp. Actually, this is yeah, ye.

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Speaker 4: Six year old left that's why thirty six left border

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Speaker 4: might need beach.

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Speaker 3: That is a record.

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Speaker 9: That's a new record for response time. This is Richard Bleier,

698
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Speaker 9: lefty from Miami Beach. Look at the same career numbers

699
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Speaker 9: not so good in twenty twenty three. Do you know

700
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Speaker 9: what camp he's in this year, what team he.

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Speaker 3: Is with Washington Nationals. That's right.

702
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Speaker 9: I don't have any national pictures of him yet, but

703
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Speaker 9: as a Marvelin, he's.

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Speaker 3: Got a lot of land up in Palm Beach County.

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Speaker 3: He hunts a lot of hogs. Shoot some right, bad boys.

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Speaker 2: Hm hmm, All right, let's get in a little bit

707
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Speaker 2: of some topics and news that kind of broke last night. Again,

708
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Speaker 2: smaller moves, minor league deals, but again the Marlins are

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Speaker 2: making moves.

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Speaker 5: They did sign.

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Speaker 2: Who has time from the Rays, who Peter Bennix knows,

712
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Speaker 2: another guy who could potentially eat innings, could come in

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Speaker 2: be a spot starter for the Marlons. And also Kurt Casally,

714
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Speaker 2: who had a down year last season but with the

715
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Speaker 2: Giants was one of the better defense of catchers as

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Speaker 2: well as backup catchers in baseball. So I want to

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Speaker 2: get your guys' thoughts on these two players real quickly

718
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Speaker 2: because we still have more topics to discuss, including Jordan

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Speaker 2: Grossing to the Yanks. But those two guys and uh

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Speaker 2: and and Kassally. Is one that intrigues you guys the most,

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Speaker 2: is or one that you could see a guy break camp.

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Speaker 7: I do like Churino's a lot, well not a lot,

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Speaker 7: but I like the signing. It's a good debt piece.

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Speaker 7: He was with Tampa for about three years until this

725
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Speaker 7: past year, until he got defaded and the Braves stuck him.

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Speaker 3: But he was pretty good.

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Speaker 7: He made a couple starts here and there. I think

728
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Speaker 7: twenty eighteen was his best year if I recall, and

729
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Speaker 7: it's not a bad pitcher by any means, only thirty

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Speaker 7: I think thirty thirty one, so still in the early

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Speaker 7: ages of his thirties, which is good. And it's a

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Speaker 7: good debt debt piece that at the end of the day,

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Speaker 7: you need pitching. You can never have enough pitching. And

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Speaker 7: he's someone who has started games and could come out

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Speaker 7: of your bullpen. So a strong spring for Chirino could

736
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Speaker 7: probably get him on the roster too. They still have options.

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Speaker 7: They just traded Ochret, so we'll see. And then Kirka

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Speaker 7: Sally is a great defensive catcher, so definitely good to have.

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Speaker 7: Skip mentioned during the winter meetings that he wanted someone

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Speaker 7: who who pitchers liked the throwing to, and that's what

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Speaker 7: kirk Casally fits. That the offense is not good.

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Speaker 9: But you wrote that in your article, and I did

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Speaker 9: not like that because by catcher standards, he's actually in

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Speaker 9: his career, he's actually been pretty solid, like an eighty

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Speaker 9: nine WRC.

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Speaker 7: Plot for his twenty twenty season.

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Speaker 5: That all you have to look at.

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Speaker 9: He's had a few years, especially last year was a

749
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Speaker 9: last year he had an injury of foot injury, and

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Speaker 9: then when he's coming back from that, he had some

751
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Speaker 9: sort of illness that like ditched his rehab assignment. But

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Speaker 9: this is earlier in his career, like ye had a

753
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Speaker 9: year little spurts where his power really shows out, And

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Speaker 9: I think it was just important to have a third

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Speaker 9: catcher that has major league experience on this panel. We

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Speaker 9: have some Will Banfield advocates, we have some Paul McIntosh

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Speaker 9: advocates as well, but neither of those guys have any

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Speaker 9: big league experienced. None of the other catchers outside of

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Speaker 9: Fortes and Ben and Court did. So to have somebody

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Speaker 9: like that is a plus. And he has had stretches

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Speaker 9: of his career where coincidence or not is coincided with

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Speaker 9: some incredible pitching performance. Who was with the twenty twenty

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Speaker 9: one Giants that was the most shocking team in the

764
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Speaker 9: league in twenty twenty one where they won a million

765
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Speaker 9: games and there was a streak where he caught I

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Speaker 9: believe it was five consecutive shutouts, obviously with different pictures

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Speaker 9: every single time. And just for me, I from what

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Speaker 9: I've read about Cassally, I think he is just a

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Speaker 9: pro typical, really high character knowledgeable catcher to have in camp.

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Speaker 9: So whether he squeezes Heaven did note this in the

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Speaker 9: article about how the race have sometimes had stretches where

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Speaker 9: they've squeezed three catchers onto the active.

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Speaker 3: Roster at the same time.

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Speaker 9: I don't know if that really suits what the Marlins

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Speaker 9: have right now with all the other guys at other

776
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Speaker 9: positions who are out of options in et cetera. But

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Speaker 9: maybe at some point during the year there is a

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Speaker 9: situation where we see Cassally in the big leagues, whether

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Speaker 9: or not there's an jury. That's there's creative possibilities out

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Speaker 9: there that could have him involved and have him helped during.

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Speaker 8: You've also lost depth right especially at the Triple A level,

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Speaker 8: they've lost depth, lost depth in terms of catching. They

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Speaker 8: needed to push up one of McIntosh or Banfield last year,

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Speaker 8: and they kind of got stuck on the same team

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Speaker 8: because they had some depth of the Triple A. Now

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Speaker 8: that depth is gone, So yeah, signing to Sally is

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Speaker 8: a guy that that could be like that's the first

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Speaker 8: or second triple A catcher if he doesn't make the

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Speaker 8: major league roster and then be the guy on call

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Speaker 8: while Bamfield and McIntosh work out, you know, continuing to

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Speaker 8: fill out and completing their their their mind leagu journeys

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Speaker 8: is totally fine. I would say Devil's advocate side of

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Speaker 8: it is, he's thirty five and he just missed a

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Speaker 8: full year. Got to see how that plays out for him.

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Speaker 8: But no, yeah, I agree. I mean it's great defense

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Speaker 8: and his his offenses for a catcher not horrendous historically,

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Speaker 8: So it's fine. Like I said, depth of your move

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Speaker 8: and it's good to have, especially behind the play. It's

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Speaker 8: good to have an older guy around sometimes. So it's fine.

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Speaker 3: It was a good signing. I wasn't mad about this one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would. Something we haven't really mentioned it is

802
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Speaker 5: Jonathan Davis.

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Speaker 6: Kyle, Jonathan Davis is back and he was just such

804
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Speaker 6: a spark plug to this team playing center field. Is

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Speaker 6: really a heartbreaking scene when we saw him get injured

806
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Speaker 6: out there in center field. Is he someone that you

807
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Speaker 6: think can make this ball clip or is he sort

808
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Speaker 6: of blocked by all the other outfield options, including a

809
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Speaker 6: Nick Gordon.

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Speaker 3: Now, I don't know if I mean it feels like

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Speaker 3: he's blocked. It feels like.

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Speaker 5: Not wrong.

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Speaker 3: I mean you it's hard hard to see him on

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Speaker 3: an opening day roster unless I'm I mean again.

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Speaker 4: Do you agree with with him being an insurance policy

816
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Speaker 4: right now? He's basically an insurance policy if Jazz or

817
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Speaker 4: one of the other guys goes down, would you agree

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Speaker 4: with that?

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Speaker 3: I mean that he's also a candidate. If he has

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Speaker 3: a good spring, somebody could pick him up at the

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Speaker 3: tail end. If he's not going to make this team,

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Speaker 3: you know, that's that's a very viable option as well.

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Speaker 4: And also keep him around for just for the sake

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Speaker 4: of vibes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's uh. If we're doing vibe roster spots,

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Speaker 3: that's taken up one, but we could we could do that.

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Speaker 3: That's all under advisement, all under consideration. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm just what we talked about earlier, especially those two

829
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Speaker 3: guys being out of options with Bruhan and Gordon. Again,

830
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Speaker 3: Nick Gordon is on the team. You don't make that

831
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Speaker 3: trade to see what he looks like in spring training,

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Speaker 3: and again Bruhan former top five guy in the Rays system.

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Speaker 3: I mean, unless I'm missing the boat on this too,

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Speaker 3: I think they're banking on that dude being really good

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Speaker 3: at some point in the big leagues, like putting it together,

836
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Speaker 3: and he's out of options, so you know, you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe not obviously a high profile trade, but when you're

838
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Speaker 3: able to acquire a guy like that that you still

839
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Speaker 3: feel like he did everything. It's actually similar to Jan

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Speaker 3: Bride a little bit. He's not everything that he needs

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Speaker 3: to do in the in the minor leagues, Breuhan did it,

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Speaker 3: Bride has done it. They both had a cup of coffee.

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Speaker 3: In the big leagues hasn't gone particularly well, but they're

844
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Speaker 3: going to get an opportunity, both of them. But I think,

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Speaker 3: obviously to start Breuhan, I think he's going to be

846
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 3: on the team. I really really do. And he gives

847
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Speaker 3: a versatility.

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Speaker 7: Not only does he play BA, but he could also

849
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Speaker 7: play you multiple outfield spots. So it's good to have

850
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Speaker 7: someone like him. And I mean it's really encouraging when

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Speaker 7: you see what he did in winter ball, So oh yeah,

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Speaker 7: definitely that he could take that momentum into spring. So

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Speaker 7: a lot to like about Bruhon for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and then they didn't give up a pretty decent

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Speaker 6: help for him and Fouchet. It wasn't, you know, a

857
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Speaker 6: cheap price to get he and Fouchet here. So I

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Speaker 6: definitely think that they'll both be on the opening day roster,

859
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 6: especially Forchet. They need a lot of right handed relief

860
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 6: help and I think he can definitely help out.

861
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. Again, it's I know, a lot of

862
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: what they've done is kind of like been unpopular or

863
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: maybe some un sexy type moves because it just doesn't

864
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 3: move the needle because it's not the star that you

865
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: hear about all the time. But it's important to make

866
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 3: moves like this because number one, you don't know how

867
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 3: it's going to turn out. If you have really good

868
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 3: player development and something, you can unlock something and you know,

869
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: like you so oftentimes I've always been so like perplexed

870
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: by this because obviously none of us have ever been

871
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: on that field or know what it's like. But guys

872
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: will off and say things like they just unlocked something

873
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 3: and it freed me out loud, what does that mean?

874
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 3: Like really? But can they unlock something in a couple

875
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 3: of these guys. And again, it's the Ray's way. It's

876
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 3: gonna sound like we're beating a dead horse here in

877
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: a drum, but like it's the Raise way.

878
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 2: Man.

879
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 3: If you have good player development, you can unlock a

880
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: little something you strike golden. It's very very low risk

881
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 3: in ginormous high reward if you can turn one or

882
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 3: two of these guys into big leaguers, and obviously they're

883
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 3: inexpensive with a ton of team control.

884
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 4: We were talking today, Jordan and I at the field.

885
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 4: We were talking with mel Stottomeyer Junior for a bit

886
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 4: and he mentioned about unlocking things and players specifically, he

887
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 4: mentioned Tanner Scott unlocking that confidence to be in the

888
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 4: ninth inning and just the way he carries himself, in

889
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 4: the way he goes into his workouts and everything. He's

890
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 4: just was hammering home in the fact that Tanner Scott

891
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 4: unlocked something, and we asked him, what about who's the

892
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 4: next guy he needs to unlock something in, and he

893
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 4: went straight for Edward Carbrera. From the neck up. He says,

894
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 4: it is all mental for Edward and he just needs

895
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 4: to get over that hump and he'll be lights out.

896
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: You guys believe Edward is gonna be here by the time.

897
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was just gonna ask Kyle's opinion on this

898
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 6: because it's such a fascinating topic. He's also out of options.

899
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 6: He this is someone that probably has the best stuff

900
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 6: in the entire organization. He has five pitches, He's a

901
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 6: large man. You can definitely pitch out of the rotation,

902
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 6: I think. And if not a lights out reliever, what

903
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 6: would you do if you were in mister Bendix's shoes,

904
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 6: Because obviously we've heard rumors, we don't know anything's in

905
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,479
Speaker 6: a come to fruition, we don't know anything. What would

906
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 6: you do with Edward Carbrera Me personally, I keep him,

907
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 6: lock him in as your number four or five starter

908
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 6: because I think he has ace potential.

909
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, here's the thing. Obviously, if you're

910
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 3: going to trust that things can improve from the shoulders up,

911
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: you know, you have to be super confident in that

912
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 3: because if you start the season and it's not going

913
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: well and he's out of options, all of a sudden,

914
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: the hamster wheel gets going, like okay, well, now what

915
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: are we going to do when we dfam?

916
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 2: Right?

917
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 3: Like Okay, we've got to make a move because he's

918
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: hurting us that this is the worst case scenario, But

919
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: obviously this is something that could arise if you go

920
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 3: into this thing, is that we're not going to trade him.

921
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: We're going to keep them. He's going to be our

922
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 3: fourth or fist. That really doesn't matter once you go

923
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 3: through one turn in the rotation, doesn't matter where you are.

924
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: But right like all of a sudden, there's a bit

925
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 3: of a predicament if it's not going well, and then

926
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 3: you got to make decisions. And so so I understand

927
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 3: now the other side of it, it's really hard for

928
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 3: me to not give him another chance. There's just too

929
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: much stuff like the one that really sticks out, weren't

930
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: we in Milwaukee last year and he fired like five

931
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 3: shutout endings, maybe walk like a ton in his first inning,

932
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 3: but then settled in and started rifling through guys that

933
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 3: might be revisions history, but something happened in Milwaukee. I

934
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 3: was like, where is this dude been? You know, and

935
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: you start he puts that together and you're like, did

936
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: he turn that corner? Because look at that I see

937
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 3: a lot of red. I understand on Baseball Savant that's

938
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: really good. We can run with that, right, like there's

939
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 3: something there. There's obvious you don't I would say, just

940
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 3: by looking at that picture, somebody put me in the

941
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 3: front office, this would be great. I ain't moving that. Sorry.

942
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: We got to work on the walks obviously because he

943
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: watched the yard, but everything else there's a lot to like,

944
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 3: you know, so very very hard for me to see

945
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 3: them moving him unless they have something up their sleeve

946
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 3: where we're going to move him and we know exactly

947
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: what turn we're going to make after.

948
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: That and.

949
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 3: Fill that need, we'll see, Thank goodness, is not my decision.

950
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 3: I know that that's a tough one, an easy one.

951
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 6: I just I think he showed enough last year that

952
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 6: it'd be hard to not give him at least at

953
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 6: two months.

954
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 5: But like you said, it's a gamble. It's a exact

955
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 5: definition of a gamble.

956
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 6: You either hold on to him and hope he shows

957
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 6: something in April and May, and if not, you kind

958
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 6: of screwed up all his value.

959
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm with you at on envy Peter Bennix's position.

960
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 6: But I mean just from his last what was it,

961
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 6: eleven games started and he was pitching almost lights out.

962
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 6: He was walking on almost six guys per nine, but

963
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 6: he was still pitching really well and minimizing damage.

964
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 5: And something's there. Something's there.

965
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 9: So yeah, on a per ending basis, he's a really

966
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 9: fascinating guy.

967
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 7: To me.

968
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 9: What why I am down on him is just the

969
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 9: lack of I don't see the path to him working

970
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 9: deep into games when he's so inefficient with how he

971
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 9: uses his pitches, with the recurring issues he's had with

972
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 9: blisters that have brought him out of some games, and

973
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 9: also just general durability as well. Unfortunately, he you know,

974
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 9: he when he was when he was coming up, people

975
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 9: have short memories. Just a few years ago, people were

976
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 9: comparing him to Sandy. He's built Sandy, he has stuff

977
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 9: like Sandy, and it's just it's complicated to forecasts exactly

978
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 9: how a body will hold up when they have major

979
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 9: league workload. And even last year he was interrupted a

980
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 9: little bit by relatively minor injury by his standards, that's

981
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 9: the Yeah. The thing is the combination of him not

982
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 9: being available all that much and even what he's on,

983
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 9: it's just it's a lot of efforts to get through

984
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 9: his innings and deep into the games, like it's all

985
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 9: all this pieces are interconnected.

986
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: Eli. That's a good point too, because the job of

987
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 3: a baseball operations department is to forecast and project. And

988
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 3: if you're projecting that five and dive catches up to

989
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 3: you in a hurry because now you're eating innings in

990
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 3: a bullpen. And boy, the season is long. We saw

991
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: that a lot last year, right, some really good performances.

992
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 3: But when you're five and dive, dude, it it's it's

993
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: hard with no off days in sight to you know,

994
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 3: piece that thing together.

995
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 4: So the bullpen died. The bullpen started to literally die

996
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 4: at the like at some points last season because they

997
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 4: were just overworked.

998
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's and that's you make a good points. That's

999
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 3: another thing to the Cabrera mix. You know, like, yeah,

1000
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 3: if he's really really good but he's struggling to get

1001
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 3: you that you work into the sixth inning. You know,

1002
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 3: it does it. It puts pressure on a lot of

1003
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 3: other guys in a very long season. And it's not

1004
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: just that night. It's it's the trickle down effect of

1005
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 3: what you know that might cause in games ahead. If

1006
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: you had to blow somebody out for two innes you know,

1007
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: so you're you're absolutely right. Again comes back to that's

1008
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 3: a really tough decision, and I tend to believe that

1009
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: when you kind of see that stuff out there, like

1010
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: it's been out there enough, I'm sure there's a little

1011
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 3: smoke to that fire. That's probably a thing. And I'm

1012
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: sure they're taking phone calls and that's going to be

1013
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 3: a tough one if they ultimately decide to move him

1014
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 3: or keep whatever they decide to do, that's a tough decision.

1015
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: I'll bring up a.

1016
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 8: Fun fact about mister Cabrera, and I think I agree

1017
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 8: with Isaac mostly that this guy just has great stuff,

1018
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 8: and I think you should just give him one more year.

1019
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 3: I really do.

1020
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 8: I think I think that you should just try to

1021
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 8: try to give him just that chance to prove himself.

1022
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: Just one more year.

1023
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 8: I mean, he's been hampered by injuries, he's had stuff

1024
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 8: going on. You know, it's been up and down, So

1025
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 8: I think one more year is fair. What I would

1026
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 8: say overall is the first pitch that he throws in

1027
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 8: at bats. If you look at splitslat split stats for

1028
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 8: Cabrera first pitch of at bats, hitters that swing at

1029
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 8: it touch him up for a one point zero one

1030
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 8: to two ohbs, So that is insane. If you swing

1031
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 8: at the first pitch and you know it's gonna be

1032
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 8: his fastball, it's probably gonna go a long way. And

1033
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 8: I really see it if you look at heat maps

1034
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 8: and look at controlled numbers and stuff like that that

1035
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 8: he does on the first pitch. He grooves the fastball

1036
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 8: a lot of the time on the first pitch. That's

1037
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 8: gonna get fixed. He also has thrown the change up

1038
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 8: a lot. We saw that last year. It was kind

1039
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 8: of going away from the fastball in order to change up.

1040
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 8: Hitters kind of sniffed at it as well. So whatever

1041
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 8: pitch it was, they were ready for it, and he

1042
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 8: got really hurt on first pitches of at bats. I

1043
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 8: think it's getting ahead with strike one that is a

1044
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 8: lot of Edward Cabrera's problem and then letting the control

1045
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 8: consist from there, which.

1046
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: Is some that he has not done either. So I

1047
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 3: think that's interesting. Who's the gentleman they just hired this

1048
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 3: over who came from drive Line or whatever. What's his name, Brandon.

1049
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 3: Now I'm not saying he's what's this guy gonna do?

1050
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: You know, these are people you don't really see that

1051
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 3: are working on the computers and standing behind him with

1052
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 3: iPads and running all these numbers. You know, what's a

1053
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 3: guy like that do with some of these guys, you know,

1054
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 3: because you're like all of that stuff is kind of

1055
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 3: surface level stuff. It's very easy to go find that

1056
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 3: information like this is what was happening? Like they know

1057
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: that and can they unlock a little something? So you know,

1058
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 3: there's a lot of pieces to the puzzle, but it's

1059
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 3: all very interesting.

1060
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then you know, Alex mentioned the first strike thing,

1061
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 7: and I know it's a reliever, but look at Tanner

1062
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 7: Scott one year to another, his first pitch ended up

1063
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 7: being the difference to what was an amazing season. So

1064
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 7: maybe whatever Tanner is doing, Edward could take some of

1065
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 7: that too. But you know, I'm on, I'm like in

1066
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 7: the middle here, because if you get a good package

1067
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 7: red when you're not complaining, I mean, you're gonna you're

1068
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 7: gonna improve your pharm system, you're gonna get some sort

1069
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 7: of major league piece back. But then you're losing a picture,

1070
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 7: and that's losing depth. And it's someone like Edward who

1071
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 7: not too long ago, as Eli mentioned, this guy was

1072
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 7: compared to Santy al Contrad. This guy was the number one.

1073
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 7: This was like the Yuri for the Marlins when Ury

1074
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 7: wasn't Yury yet. And he has a he has some

1075
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 7: really nasty stuff. And if he could just put down

1076
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 7: the walk rate, they'll just a little bit.

1077
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 5: Man.

1078
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 7: That's that's really all you're asking at this point, because

1079
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 7: every single time he's been called up particually his walk

1080
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 7: rate has been it's been high.

1081
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 3: It's been very high.

1082
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 7: I don't have it in front of me right now,

1083
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 7: but I was looking at it today and it was

1084
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 7: I know he had a sixth something walk per nine

1085
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 7: in twenty twenty two.

1086
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 4: I have to look at the walk percentage down there

1087
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 4: in the cast.

1088
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 3: That's just wait and style exactly.

1089
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 7: I mean, if he could just get that down, that's

1090
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 7: all you really want. But I'm not complaining if you

1091
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 7: get a really good prospect package back along with some

1092
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 7: sort of major lege. I know g one Day was

1093
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 7: mentioned there. I don't know how to feel about exactly him,

1094
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 7: but I like the prospects I were mentioned, but we

1095
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 7: don't have time to go onto all of them, and

1096
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 7: our hosts decided to leave.

1097
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 6: The last thing I'll take is we mentioned the five

1098
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 6: inning thing is just he struggles to get those eight

1099
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 6: pitch innings and it's very difficult. Someone else who kind

1100
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 6: of struggles obviously had a career year is Braxing Garrett.

1101
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 6: So one of them Medwick career is sort of not

1102
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 6: at the highest value right now. Braxing Garrett is at

1103
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 6: the highest value he'll ever be at. So which one

1104
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 6: would you sort of dangle in trade talks. That's interesting

1105
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 6: because neither of them really will give you more than

1106
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 6: five innings, but one of them was really effective.

1107
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 5: The other one can be way more effective if you unlocks.

1108
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 5: The other one is safer bet So that's like always

1109
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 5: an interesting comparison for me. Obviously, totally different pitchers. It

1110
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 5: could not be more different, but both of them give

1111
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 5: the same amount of innings pretty much.

1112
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 3: Now, you guys tell me this. Here's something I felt.

1113
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 3: I felt this with Braxton Garrett. It's like they almost

1114
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: didn't trust him to go more than five, but then

1115
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 3: when you started to do it, they're like, oh, no,

1116
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 3: he can do it. I felt that.

1117
00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1118
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 3: To back that up, I felt very early in the

1119
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: season because I had there's you just look at it.

1120
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 3: It's like a soft tossing lefty. You know, it's not

1121
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 3: ninety eight to ninety nine with a ton of strikeouts.

1122
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: Tiar he is, there's the man all this kid, he's

1123
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 3: doing well. He has a great cat that he loves

1124
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 3: rex and does but right like the kind of the

1125
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 3: soft tossing lefty who induces a lot of contact, you know,

1126
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 3: people when they make contact, they hit it heart. To me,

1127
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 3: it felt like it took a while for the coaching

1128
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: staff and the manager to trust. Now he was through

1129
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 3: five pitch count was reasonable, but they're like, nope, that's good,

1130
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: thank you again, thank you, we're good. And that I

1131
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 3: felt like they started to trust him and they let

1132
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 3: the leash off and he was giving them, you know,

1133
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 3: more than the five. So I love Bras. I think

1134
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 3: that is such a birthla fresh air in today's game too.

1135
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: When you're seeing ninety seven to one hundred night in

1136
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: a night out and he's just kind of from the

1137
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: side lefty, you know, picked up that cutter on the

1138
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 3: fly last year in the big leagues. That's insane. I

1139
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 3: would let him go.

1140
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 4: Nell also mentioned Mell also mentioned loosening the rains a

1141
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 4: bit on Uri, which I'm excited to see and I think.

1142
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 3: This spring they're going to say. I don't think you're

1143
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: ever going to hear somebody say this is what we're

1144
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 3: doing with him this year. I genuinely believe he's going

1145
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 3: to go out there every fifth or sixth day, and

1146
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll take care of the young man when

1147
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 3: there's an off day and they're capable of doing so.

1148
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 3: I will be stunned if at any point this season

1149
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 3: you get a hard cap on innings or starts. I

1150
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 3: just don't think you're going to see it. I don't

1151
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 3: think Skipping his staff are wired that way. I think

1152
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: they'll be cognizant. I think they will be on the

1153
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 3: same page as the Baseball operation department, and they will

1154
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 3: do what's best for the young man. But I don't

1155
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 3: think we're going to go out of spring training knowing

1156
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 3: he's going to get two weeks off in July. He

1157
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 3: will not throw more than one hundred and fifty five

1158
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 3: and a third innings and that's going to be it

1159
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 3: and he's done again. That's not going to happen.

1160
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 8: In my opinion, Yeah, that has to happen. That what

1161
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 8: you just said, Kyle has to happen. At this point

1162
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 8: in Paris' career, he's ready take the reins off like

1163
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 8: that it's enough, like let them go.

1164
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: Hmm, yeah, no.

1165
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 7: And that's also good to hear because when we had

1166
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 7: skip on Unfiltered, I think I was either Igar. I

1167
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 7: asked him, can we expect more than one hundred and

1168
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 7: twenty four innings around there? That was the range that

1169
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 7: he pitched between the majors and the minors, And Skipta said, yeah,

1170
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 7: of course. I mean, this is a guy who is

1171
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 7: now twenty I want to say, twenty twenty one, and

1172
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 7: you've got to let him loose at some point.

1173
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 3: And that's definitely the thing.

1174
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 9: He is still the youngest pitcher in the majors.

1175
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 3: I'm not suggesting that means thirty two starts in two

1176
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty innings. It's not right.

1177
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 4: I mean slowly right.

1178
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 3: I don't mind shutdown, you won't see that. Just they're

1179
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 3: gonna take care of him. But he's gonna pitch. I

1180
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 3: think he's gonna pitch all season long. There might be

1181
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: starts where, you know, what, if he's threw six innings

1182
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 3: on eighty eight pitches or something, they might take them.

1183
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 3: But I think you're going to see him make And

1184
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 3: I totally understand. I I've always been to the school

1185
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 3: of thought. Again, this is just me talking nonsense as

1186
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 3: somebody that loves the game. What the heck, he's twenty

1187
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 3: one years old. Turn it loose, big boy. But I

1188
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 3: understand the game is just littered with billions of dollars.

1189
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 3: You have to protect players. I understand that, and they

1190
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 3: will protect him, but they're not going to be shy

1191
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 3: with him. That's just my opinion.

1192
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1193
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 8: I mean, you saw it a couple times last year

1194
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 8: with the innings limit on when he's like, you know,

1195
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 8: eighty eight pitches through five and they take him out

1196
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 8: as come on, like r come on seriously, like you know,

1197
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 8: let's just let the guy go.

1198
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 5: I mean, and I get it.

1199
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 8: I get the protection I do. I do understand that

1200
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 8: as well, especially for a guy that has gone through

1201
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 8: some minor injuries and stuff like that.

1202
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 3: So I get it.

1203
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 8: But protecting the investment, it's not really an investment at

1204
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 8: this point because they didn't pay a lot. But what

1205
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 8: I mean is protecting the future. I do understand. But

1206
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 8: at some point it has to be enough, and I

1207
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 8: think that's going to be this year. Like like you said, Kyle,

1208
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 8: I I really do think that that's true, that you'll

1209
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 8: see more Yuri Perez than twenty twenty four.

1210
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 3: Which if you don't, they're going to have a hard

1211
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 3: time winning. I thought there was an impact last year

1212
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 3: when he was option and I thought that was real,

1213
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 3: and I thought the clubhouse probably felt that. Again, this

1214
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 3: is just my opinion, folks. I'm just as an outsider,

1215
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 3: just kind of watching it. But like they have to

1216
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 3: compensate for how many innings missed from Sandy. Now like

1217
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 3: that that's not all on one shoulder or two shoulders.

1218
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 3: That's an entire rotation and that's going to require guys

1219
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 3: to be pushed a little bit. And when you're coming

1220
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 3: around turn four the Kentucky Derby, you better take that

1221
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 3: whip and hit the horse a little bit right like

1222
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 3: we got to go. So I think you're going to

1223
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 3: see that and guys are gonna get pushed. You have

1224
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 3: no concerns with Lizardo, you have no concerns with Braxton Garrett.

1225
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 3: They will be cognizant of what they do with Yuri

1226
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 3: and whatever. Trevor's a wildcard man to me, what do

1227
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 3: they go to get? What are you going to get?

1228
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 3: Is there going to be a twenty twenty one version

1229
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 3: out there? Can he stay healthy, like they've obviously acquired

1230
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 3: some depth here. Ryan Weathers fascinates me. A guy that

1231
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 3: was pulled up way too early, way too young in

1232
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, and the COVID thing with the Padres and

1233
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 3: the Dodgers got yanked up and down reminded me a

1234
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 3: little bit of Brad Hand. Maybe that's the bad comparison,

1235
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 3: but I just think about that just pulled up too young,

1236
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 3: I thought Weather's and when we I don't know if

1237
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 3: you saw that thing Steven and I did with him,

1238
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 3: but I was just I was hanging like by a thread.

1239
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 3: Whatever the kid was saying. I was like, ooh, you know,

1240
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 3: it feels like he knows exactly what he wants to do.

1241
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 3: And he mentioned multiple times or just once, but kind

1242
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 3: of reiterated it what the change did. And when he

1243
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 3: got the Jacksonville last year, it just seemingly like he

1244
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: just took a deep breath and exhaled and just got

1245
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 3: back to the roots of what he does. And I

1246
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 3: know it's closing day and everybody had flights to catch.

1247
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 3: I was really encouraged by what I saw in Pittsburgh

1248
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 3: on that final day as well.

1249
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you guys believe there are any guys maybe

1250
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: currently in the system. You could go triple double A

1251
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 2: that could potentially have some spots starts in the season,

1252
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: cove and get those innings. Pja here mentioning Patrick Monteverde,

1253
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: is that maybe the only guy or do you guys

1254
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: see someone else that an potentially to come up.

1255
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 3: I'll throw one year way and you guys can take

1256
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 3: over the rest. Because I try to stay up to

1257
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 3: data on all this stuff. I think Max Meyer is

1258
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 3: going to contribute this year. I wouldn't say it's a must,

1259
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 3: but that kid's got some stuff and if he's healthy.

1260
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 3: I've always said he is wired a little differently. He

1261
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 3: ticks a little differently, and I mean that in a

1262
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 3: good way. Something happens when he crosses over that line

1263
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 3: and goes to the pitcher's bound where you know he's

1264
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 3: nobody's going to beat him. I think he's going to

1265
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 3: be a major contributor for the Marlins this season. It's

1266
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 3: not going to be the start. I don't think you

1267
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 3: can do that to the young man coming off Tommy

1268
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 3: John because guys will get out there on that mount

1269
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 3: in the big leagues, they get all out of sync,

1270
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 3: they get out of whack, mechanically because they're trying to

1271
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 3: do too much. I think if you see him start

1272
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 3: off really well, I assume it would be Triple A.

1273
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm off on that. Wherever he starts, he's going

1274
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 3: to be right for the picking to come to Miami

1275
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 3: pretty quick. I think there he is all over it.

1276
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 5: Yep, yeah, Craig, go ahead either.

1277
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 6: I just Craig was mentioning all that about his personality

1278
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 6: as a bulldog out there, and uh yeah, I am intrigued.

1279
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 5: To see what he can do. I agree with you, Kyle.

1280
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 6: He'll probably start in the miners and as soon as

1281
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 6: they need a guy, probably in the middle of the year.

1282
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 5: I think he's got to be one of the first

1283
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 5: men up.

1284
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Speaker 7: And then the other name I think was mentioned in

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00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 7: the comments, Pat Monteverde. Really good year, struggled at Triple A,

1286
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 7: but still a lot to like from from what he did,

1287
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 7: and definitely the name to keep an eye on. Really

1288
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 7: can't think of another start.

1289
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 3: I mean, what you guys call Maldonado as a reliever?

1290
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think, I think, yeah, I think

1291
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 6: he's got in the bullpen part of it. I think

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00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 6: he's got a chance to make the ball club out

1293
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 6: of spring training to get told us he was someone

1294
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 6: that they really wanted to bring up. And then, yeah,

1295
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 6: I think those are the main guys that are are

1296
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 6: pretty safe bets to be contributing on.

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Speaker 5: The mound in twenty twenty four for sure.

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00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 3: So here's my thing, and it goes back to what

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00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 3: we talked about earlier. Just because many people don't know

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00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 3: the name and they want to bash the organization for

1301
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 3: doing nothing, why can't this team compete. Maldonado's got some

1302
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 3: six stuff. I've seen some video. You tell me that's

1303
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 3: not gonna play in the big leaks. I don't need

1304
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 3: a degree from Harvard to tell you that that can

1305
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 3: play at this level. Like they're gonna have a good bullpen,

1306
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 3: they're gonna have good starting pitchers. They had that, they

1307
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 3: have the Yes, they have the two time back to

1308
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 3: back National League in American League batting time like hello,

1309
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 3: Like they have big leaguers. I promise you, I promise

1310
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 3: they have big leaguers.

1311
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 6: And in Sherman's defense, you know, when guys like David

1312
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,479
Speaker 6: Robinson are getting eleven million dollars, maybe you can't blame

1313
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,959
Speaker 6: the guy for not going out and acquiring some of these.

1314
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 5: Big free agency. I wouldn't never you know, I wouldn't

1315
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 5: even spend anything close.

1316
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 3: Would that have made people happy if they brought back

1317
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 3: to David Robertson and gave him eleven million dollars because

1318
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 3: they signed a major leaguer.

1319
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Speaker 9: Not a great example, He wasn't super popular.

1320
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Speaker 3: You know what, Like, that's eleven million dollars. What pond

1321
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 3: are we supposed to be fishing in here? If those

1322
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,919
Speaker 3: guys are getting eleven million dollars, exactly, you're you're gonna

1323
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 3: open up the just because we're doing it, just because

1324
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 3: what make people happy? If you spend ten million just

1325
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 3: because well that he's everybody's nerves slow down, do the

1326
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 3: right thing, doing the right thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think no matter who they spent, because no

1328
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 5: one was really that happy.

1329
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Speaker 6: They spent a lot of money on obviousl Garcia and

1330
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 6: even at the time before he started struggling with Miami,

1331
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 6: people weren't exactly a static either.

1332
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 5: So I think it has to be the right person

1333
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 5: as well. And I think Jad Martinez is the right guy.

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Speaker 6: I don't think they're going to get him, but I

1335
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 6: think Tim Madison is also the right guy, and I

1336
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 6: think that's a fair thing that'll get people excited.

1337
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Speaker 3: I think that would be a great short stop for

1338
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 3: the Miami Marlins going through what only we know we

1339
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 3: went through in Chicago publicly, there was just it was

1340
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 3: always something weird. You know, the White Sox are obviously

1341
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 3: in a bit of turmoil. He really talked to the

1342
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 3: media a whole lot struggled. Do guys like that, he's

1343
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 3: not forty you bring you give a guy a breath

1344
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 3: of fresh air in a different uniform and an opportunity

1345
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 3: to relax and just just just to change the scenery.

1346
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 3: How much would he cast you fine?

1347
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 5: I think he might also.

1348
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 4: I think he might also fit really well with just

1349
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 4: the clubhouse, like guys like guys like Jazz and Nick Gordon,

1350
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 4: who were all over for each other today. It was hysterical.

1351
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 3: People are quick to say, like Tim Anderson's a bad guy.

1352
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 3: Have you met him? Are you just reading what you

1353
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 3: see on Twitter? What you know? What are we doing?

1354
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 3: Give the guy a chance? Maybe he's a great guy.

1355
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1356
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 3: When I asked m.

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01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 5: Burger knows, and I've heard I've heard only good things

1358
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 5: about Tim Anderson, And I.

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01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 4: Think Wie g ands Son, who I was talking to

1360
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Speaker 4: a lot during the Caribbean series mentioned how Tim Anderson

1361
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 4: has been been put in a bad light and when

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Speaker 4: he really shouldn't be.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 3: I don't know about that, the angle on Anderson.

1365
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 8: I would probably say that I disagree with a lot

1366
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 8: of what you guys just said, not because of the

1367
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 8: clubhouse stuff, but because this is an Asian player and

1368
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 8: it seems like Jeane Cigarette again. But that's that's that's

1369
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 8: all I'll say on him anyways. That's that's all I

1370
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 8: say about that. I'm not saying anything else. I just

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01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 8: don't think that he is an upgrade over what they have.

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Speaker 8: That's all I say. He's not an upgrade over what

1373
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 8: they currently have that they could put that shortstop. I

1374
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 8: don't think he's an upgrade. That's it. Before what you

1375
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 8: guys were saying before about bullpen, though there's one earning

1376
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 8: the names to call out that you guys, or two

1377
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 8: other names to call out that we didn't really say here.

1378
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 8: They still have Zach mccambley, who I still think is

1379
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 8: good as a reliever, and they still have this guy

1380
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 8: wallbert Arias, who I think.

1381
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 3: Could be very good as well. Out of the bullpen.

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01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 8: Bullpen and pitching wise, I think they are good.

1383
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 3: I know you.

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01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 8: I likes Aris anyways, I'm not on board with the

1385
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 8: Anderson thing on my side, but I agree with what

1386
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,919
Speaker 8: you guys said on bullpen stuff and pitching depth. There's

1387
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 8: definitely bullpen depv pitching starting pitching dep.

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Speaker 3: In the minors.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, but I think they do have guys

1390
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 8: that can contribute in both ways this year, and then

1391
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 8: there's some there's some good problems to have in the

1392
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 8: current rotation and there's some not so good problems to

1393
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 8: have in the current rotation. So we're gonna say how

1394
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 8: it plays out, but there are some guys down there

1395
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 8: that can definitely contribute in both ways.

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01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 7: Tim Anders would be a cheap option that I don't

1397
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 7: hate bringing on. I just obviously I have a guy

1398
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 7: I don't know us know the guy personally.

1399
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 3: Jake Berger speaks very highly.

1400
01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 5: Of him, but well, we.

1401
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 7: Very good.

1402
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 5: But it just depends on the price. Depends on the price.

1403
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 6: Because John Birdy said to make three and a half

1404
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 6: million dollars do I think John Birdy's better than him.

1405
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 5: Right now, probably safer bed.

1406
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 6: But Tim Manesson can play shorts ut better and if

1407
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 6: you can get him for a similar price as John

1408
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 6: Birdy said to make you make that deal, and unfortunately

1409
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 6: you you you probably look to move John Birdie at

1410
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 6: that point.

1411
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 3: But I think that John Berdy is also John Birdie

1412
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 3: is four years older. And now let Lennie asked this question.

1413
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 3: He has played a substantial amount of time in the

1414
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 3: big leagues? Has he ever been run out there? Every

1415
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 3: single day he gets exposed?

1416
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 4: He was struggling last year with it with with injuries

1417
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 4: too later on in the season from just over work, right.

1418
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 3: And Skip alluded to in the middle of the season

1419
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 3: when people kept peppering him with why aren't you running more?

1420
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 3: And his first response that I always loved was like,

1421
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 3: who do you want to run more? Like who's galloping

1422
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 3: out there?

1423
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 5: Oh?

1424
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 3: That's right, right, right?

1425
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 5: And he was about that.

1426
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 3: But he was also asked about that during the season

1427
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 3: and he alluded to there's a lot of stuff that

1428
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 3: you guys don't know. And I think he had mentioned

1429
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 3: something like lower extremity or something for people.

1430
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,479
Speaker 4: It was it was something with his it was something

1431
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 4: with Birdie's legs.

1432
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 3: Okay, well, you know he had what sixteen seventeen stolen

1433
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 3: bases last year or something like, I'm not saying that

1434
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 3: he's not better than Tim Anderson, but you know, he's

1435
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 3: four years older. I don't know. Yeah, we'll see.

1436
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 7: And just like the year before for Tim Anderson in

1437
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 7: twenty twenty two, he had a one to ten WRC

1438
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 7: plus he only shrug out a fifty percent ray, which

1439
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 7: is really good.

1440
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 3: He also played over three hundred I mean, it's not

1441
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 3: a bad option at the end of the day. It's

1442
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 3: definitely a bounced back guy. What's your going? Well, that's

1443
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 3: the thing, Kevin. I think that's a common theme here

1444
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 3: this offseason. The Mina Marlins have targeted players and brought players.

1445
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 3: A majority of the guys that they've gotten are players

1446
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 3: that have coming are coming to this organization that they

1447
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 3: think are due for bounce back seasons in the major leagues, right,

1448
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 3: and then you hope that Bruhan and a Bride can

1449
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 3: figure it out. If they signed a guy like and Anderson,

1450
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 3: they would expect a guy to bounce back, you know.

1451
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of bounce back candidates and that's

1452
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 3: what the Momins are gonna in my opinion, that's how

1453
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 3: they're going to operate, and they need to draft and develop.

1454
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 3: If they don't do that, this is not going to work,

1455
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 3: but they have to draft and develop, and I think

1456
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 3: they have the right people in place to do that.

1457
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 7: It's also when you think about it, because it's a

1458
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 7: lot of what if. What if the guy bounces back?

1459
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 7: What if the other guy bounces back. That's that's one way,

1460
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 7: isn't that baseball? Though?

1461
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 3: What if we stay healthy? What if we don't stay healthy?

1462
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 3: Like you know, it's the nature of the game.

1463
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 6: So yeah, what what makes me optimistic is that, what

1464
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 6: are the two best teams in baseball at revitalizing these

1465
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 6: players coming off of bad years? The Dodgers and the Rays?

1466
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 6: And what is this front office made of guys that

1467
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 6: do and the race? So I think that certainly helps

1468
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 6: and it keeps me a little bit optimistic. Is look

1469
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 6: what the Dodgers do with every single guy that they

1470
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:58,439
Speaker 6: bring to their team.

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01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 5: Holy crap, they're great at Jason Hayward. It's just hopefully

1472
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 5: a little bit of that.

1473
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 3: That's your PD, that's your player development. That's getting eyes

1474
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 3: on guys, giving them a breath of fresh air, and

1475
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 3: trying to explain to them and trying to get them

1476
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 3: to trust you with the information you're going to provide

1477
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 3: them to try to help them. That's that's difficult to do.

1478
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 3: And I've always said, if you're going to start a

1479
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 3: major league organization, I'd probably start with the Rays, the Braves,

1480
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 3: and the Dodgers. And I think the moments started with

1481
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 3: the Rays and they acquired for all intents and purposes,

1482
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 3: Peter Bendix. Again, you know the Nash comes from Texas.

1483
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 3: I promise you ninety nine percent of baseball fans have

1484
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 3: no idea who that is because it's just not something

1485
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 3: that registers on your radar as a fan. But those

1486
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 3: people are so important. And he's a wizard, and he

1487
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 3: has a history with Peter, and he speaks very highly

1488
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 3: of him, and those two have chemistry and they're going

1489
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 3: to trust each other. And it's just so much man

1490
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 3: that people don't see that has to happen right to

1491
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 3: make your team at the big league level successful, And

1492
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 3: we'll see if they can do it.

1493
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 8: I think what you said, Kyle, it rings true. Like

1494
01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 8: we've been talking a lot about the big league team,

1495
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 8: right But as a last for me on what we

1496
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 8: all have to say is what they do in July is.

1497
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 3: Going to be equally important.

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01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 8: How they develop these deeper down prospects like nobel Meyer

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Speaker 8: and others, is going to be very very important on

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01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 8: the player development side, and how did how is bringing

1501
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 8: all these minds that go behind that and that are

1502
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 8: behind that. How are they going to service these players

1503
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 8: as best as they possibly can? That is definitely getting

1504
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 8: the most out of your young talent. Marlon Tummon done

1505
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 8: that with draft picks. They were not able to do

1506
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 8: that with draft picks previously. Are they going to be

1507
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 8: able to do it now? That is a huge, huge

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01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 8: question for them to answer if they are going to

1509
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 8: become the Feuter system that they need to be with

1510
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 8: a lower payroll. So that's the biggest question of this

1511
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 8: season going into the season for me is not what

1512
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 8: they do with the big league side, but what they

1513
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 8: do with player development. That is the huge, huge factor

1514
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 8: to focus on and something that really really I hope

1515
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 8: they answer well because.

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01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 3: It's very important. And here's my last thing on that.

1517
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 3: Peter said this from day one, and it rings very

1518
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 3: very true. You have to have good people and people

1519
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 3: like per since baseball is so hard, dude, and it's

1520
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 3: so long, and there's just so much failure that if

1521
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 3: you get the right people in your system, not just

1522
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 3: player development, but quite literally, your managers and coaches at

1523
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 3: those minor league levels that can just flat out relate

1524
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 3: to some of these kids and like can tell them

1525
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 3: it's going to be okay, and like don't try, Like

1526
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 3: you just have to just be good like with people.

1527
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 3: Man Like, if you can get people to trust you,

1528
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 3: it's ultimately going to help them, it's going to help

1529
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 3: your organization. You can't just be robots and put an

1530
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 3: iPad in front of them every day and show them

1531
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 3: all the crap from last night and it just stop.

1532
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 3: Like seriously, and all the folks that I've talked to,

1533
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I know this, and I'm like I'm

1534
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 3: the inventor of this, but holy cow, you have to

1535
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 3: have people in your organization that are really good with

1536
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 3: other humans and they can relate to them. And when

1537
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 3: the nineteen year old is hitting a buck sixty and

1538
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 3: thinks the world is falling, like, it's okay, we'll get

1539
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,640
Speaker 3: this figured out. Hang with me, We'll keep running you

1540
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 3: out there, we'll figure this out. Like that's that's all

1541
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 3: part of player development. It's it's not just taking them

1542
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 3: the cage every day after you watch hours of video

1543
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 3: dissecting their right pink ky toe that they need to change.

1544
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 2: So and I think that's a perfect way to close

1545
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: it out. Oriented going on a little bit over time,

1546
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 2: but it was perfect. I think we have time for

1547
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 2: one last topic. It is Valentine's Day. As you can see,

1548
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 2: we all don't have dates for tonight. We're all very

1549
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 2: lonely and talking about the Marlans and what's going to

1550
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,560
Speaker 2: happen Kyle for us lonely men and for even the

1551
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 2: lonely women out there, what is uh your advice for

1552
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 2: for dating advice for everyone?

1553
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 3: Well, we're in trouble. We'll start there now. If you'd

1554
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 3: like me to put a date together? Uh is this

1555
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 3: is this a first date? If it If it's not,

1556
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,799
Speaker 3: I think a great date would simply be to invite

1557
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 3: the young lady over and cook a nice meal for

1558
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 3: I think that's very very nice. Not many men can

1559
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 3: do that. There are not very many domesticated men anymore.

1560
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 3: They're just they're simply not. Now, if it's a first date,

1561
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 3: pick her up, unless she's more comfortable taking now. But

1562
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 3: if you pick her up, for the love of God,

1563
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 3: let's start by opening the passenger side door. Lady in

1564
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 3: the car, open the door, for he You don't have

1565
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 3: to buckle her up. She can do that herself. She's

1566
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:22,560
Speaker 3: not a right safely now the first thing, engage in

1567
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 3: a little conversation in the vehicle. Get off the don't drive.

1568
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 3: Don't drive with the phone in your hand. Now you don't.

1569
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 3: Now there's trust issues immediately, it's never gonna work. Put

1570
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 3: the phone down, maybe some you don't have to put

1571
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 3: some weird tunes on the radio, turn it off. Let's

1572
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 3: see if we can engage in a conversation. It doesn't

1573
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 3: have to be extravagant. I would start with maybe a

1574
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 3: glass of wine in the cheeseboard to set the mood.

1575
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:51,520
Speaker 3: I think again, it doesn't have a fancy.

1576
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 5: Yes it is.

1577
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 3: Stop listening to Lewis and as a little nightcap. I

1578
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 3: think maybe you start at the restaurant, at the bar.

1579
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 3: Maybe you have a glass of wine. At the bar,

1580
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 3: you have reservations for eight. We get there around seven

1581
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 3: to fifteen. We have a glass of wine. You get

1582
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 3: to the table, make sure you get the cheeseboard. Everybody

1583
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 3: gets their meals. You have the wrong woman. Now she's

1584
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 3: not going to order food if she's I'm not hungry, No, no, no,

1585
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 3: Then you got to go. And now afterwards, how about

1586
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 3: a little putt putt, little mini golf? Yeah right, okay, right,

1587
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 3: we're all screwed, but happy, uh, happy Valentine's Day. Kyle

1588
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:32,839
Speaker 3: steal off huge cheeseboard.

1589
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 5: Guy, that's a takeaway.

1590
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 3: No, not really, but I think that's probably the right

1591
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 3: thing to do.

1592
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 1: Are you?

1593
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 2: What's your meal? What's your meal to cook?

1594
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 3: Mmm? The one thing I would cook. I don't love seafoods.

1595
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 3: So if some woman wants like salmon, no, no, no,

1596
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 3: we're out. For the most part. I love cooking pasta

1597
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 3: that's probably a little too heavy for a date. Maybe

1598
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 3: a nice carbonara. Though I love chicken palm, it's just

1599
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,440
Speaker 3: gonna be too heavy. It's just sitting there afterwards, everybody's

1600
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 3: you know, you're you're just you're uncomfortable. I have no idea, guys, honestly,

1601
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:10,799
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

1602
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 6: Just grill some steaks, guys, girls, some steaks, Give her

1603
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 6: some Polpenno chips, and I promise.

1604
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 2: You that Isaac was gone. This is the date master,

1605
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 2: this is this is who we should have gone to.

1606
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 2: We should have gotten to Isaac.

1607
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 8: He goes on too many first dates.

1608
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 3: That's his problem.

1609
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 5: The Kyle, lug me up. Have you ever been there?

1610
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 5: Lugged me up?

1611
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 6: Okay, well, that is a cheese and charcouterie wine place

1612
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 6: in all the country, so I recommend that place if

1613
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,759
Speaker 6: you have a nice young lady or the takeout.

1614
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 3: All right, I'll see you next Wednesday. My checks in

1615
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 3: the mail.

1616
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna end it there. As you can see, probably

1617
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 2: not the best to get advice from a whole bunch

1618
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 2: of guys who watched Marlon's one hundred and sixty two

1619
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 2: times a year. But again, we want to thank you

1620
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 2: for joeing us for fof Live presented by Berger and

1621
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 2: Hicks Always. You can check them out Instagram, TikTok, you

1622
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 2: can DM Noah. Just hit up Noah.

1623
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 3: That's your main source right there.

1624
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 5: Go on their website.

1625
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 2: Of course, Berger and Hicks, as always, go Fish Happy

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Speaker 2: Valentine's Day,