WEBVTT - Amos Time in Detention Part 2 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:07.200 Also media. 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:10.640 I wanted to ask, so one of the people on 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:15.040 the court is Emmett. Emmett had helped build some other shelters. 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:18.200 You may not know are most There are three camps, 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:21.880 maybe David schattis with you, similar to the one that 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:25.760 you were in. There were three in different locations. Some 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:27.800 of them are even colder than the one that you 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:36.120 stayed in. And volunteers including myself included. Emmett had built shelters. Emmet, 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.599 perhaps you could describe like how you sort of decided 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:43.080 to do that and came up with the shelter design 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:43.960 that you came up with. 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:47.319 Yeah, definitely, And I just just want to say I'm 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:52.120 processing also amost is also hearing your story and appreciating, 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:55.360 like for all of us coming to build shelters, it's 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.880 it's realizing there's all these stories that weird are not knowing, 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.320 and you know, all of us are these lives that 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:07.080 are so independent individual and showing up and meeting folks 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:12.200 who have been through whatever they have been and uh, it. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:14.640 Like does it does stuff to us? All? You know? 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:15.959 And I think I'm hearing you right now. 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.959 I'm just really processing kind of what you're saying, and 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:21.480 I hope many people here how you're framing all this. 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:23.680 Guys really appreciate how you're framing the story and how 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:28.600 you're sharing both your perspective but also what it means 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:32.440 to just be confused, to think for some for for me, 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.959 like I've I felt so even after many years of 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:41.600 working in this space, just so confused by how or 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.000 by how CVP is treating people in. 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.440 The in the oas at least in this desert right now. 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:55.200 But uh, basically it's winter time now in in California, 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:59.880 and for the last several months people have been kept 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:05.160 overnight in the desert on in the borderlands, which has 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.080 been brutal, and it has been terrible, and and and 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:09.120 any humane. 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:11.399 Have for cped to keep people of the desert. 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.960 But as it became winter, it became deadly and the 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:21.480 risk of extreme hypothermia events for for hundreds of people 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.920 became so severe that a lot of. 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.960 A lot of our you know, day in day out, UH. 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.680 Work to making sure people will had food and if 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:32.280 there were babies that they were taking care of as needed, 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.720 or if if folks had specific health issues that we 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.760 could show it for them. But but the thought of 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.680 just doing that and hope, you know, bringing as many 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.799 blankets as we could. Uh, We're bringing up blankets and 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:48.720 tents and tarps things keep people off the ground, you know, 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.440 basically looking in our basements and asking all of our 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:55.280 friends like, hey, we're looking behind every gas station for 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.560 for for for boxes of cardboard or whatever it is. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.840 But that just didn't seem enough. It didn't. It seemed 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.440 like we were actually doing a harm to be to 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.760 be the ones who had seen this and something we 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.679 deal with israelizing. There's so many folks who just don't 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.080 know what's going on. So for us to be a 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:15.640 community seeing this and not not taking to the next 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:17.560 the next level and still I feel this way. 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:22.680 But it felt like we were not doing or we 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:24.480 were doing a harm by not by. 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:28.320 Not kind of addressing the winter as it was happening. 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.320 So the idea of building shelters was was to try 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:36.160 to basically do do something more than just bringing out 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:39.640 supplies and letting people you know, vent for themselves, but 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.520 creating something that might actually create more of a long 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:46.720 term safety. And then again, I mean this is this 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:50.240 is these are detention sites. We are we are working 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:56.120 as volunteers inside of a basically informal detention site that 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:59.120 CBP is operating. So it's a very confusing for us 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.040 to know, you know, we're here trying to be with 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.760 people directly, trying to see what people are wanting and 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:08.000 needing and what is their their needs, but we're also 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:14.320 kind of navigating around this very erratic system that is 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:20.080 sometimes denying us entry to these sites, sometimes trying to 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.400 have us do things for them, and other times kind 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.560 of allowing us to be there and you know, you know, 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:30.000 bringing food because it serves them, serves VP for us 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:33.800 to keep people alive. But that's a really confusing process. 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.240 So anyways, there was a lot of talk going on 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.400 about making shelters, and people have been assembling palts, and 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:42.480 one day I was just talking with some of the 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.800 other organizers and they're thinking, well, let's do this. 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.000 I'll come back tomorrow and we will start. 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:51.200 And so with with some volunteers from the Dollar Lunch 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:55.280 Club from U SEE San Diego, we set out and 0:04:55.440 --> 0:05:00.080 to the campsite we call Tower one seven seven and 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.359 started building this and immediately kind of as you're saying, 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:06.920 also Amost, we had about a team of ten people 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:13.120 from Columbia and Kyrghyzstan helping us build this this shelter 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:23.080 from from palettes, cardboard, plastic, sheeting, tarts and James and 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.720 myself and some other folks had been talking the night 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.960 before what are the different shelters and using all of 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:32.320 our outdoor experience, worlderness experience and kind of putting it 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.560 all together and having kind of a roundtable discussion like well, 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.440 I've seen this work before, I've I've done this before. 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.080 I mean, this might work, it might be, this might 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.160 be a nice way of using these palettes, trying to 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:45.520 find something that I'll be stable to, uh, you know 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:46.920 withstand wind conditions. 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.960 It being kind of you know, resource smart, making. 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.560 Sure we're not over using whatever would we have, and 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.560 some sort of super intricate design, and also something that 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.480 we could we could assemble quite quickly and would be versatile, 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.760 so some thing we could do in different different settings, 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.840 and also building something and building a design that wouldn't 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:09.279 wouldn't be super hard for people to use. So yeah, 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:10.640 so it just felt like we were kind of just 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.440 like kind of putting putting herds together, and that's what 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.599 we came up with was basically this super shelter that 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:20.000 was has basically a backbone of six palettes and maybe 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:23.240 I don't know, James, it's possible to like some some 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:28.240 photos or whatnot, but putting together basically great, right, Yeah, 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:32.200 some sort of ur like structure that can be kind 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.599 of designed or can be changed as it wouldn't be 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.599 and especially something that anybody who's using it gets to 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.680 actually have mimic their own their own home, their own setup. 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:42.440 So it's not something that we're kind of dictating how 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:45.600 it needs to be used. But yeah, we've got had 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:49.280 a really positive experience and a lot of expertise from 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:53.479 folks from from Kyrgyzstan to kind of lead the way. 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:57.039 So we brought tools and other folks who were you 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:00.880 going to use it basically created them Google shelter. 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:03.120 Themselves. 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.400 Yeah, so that was that was that was our first 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.120 experience and yeah, and. 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.840 Most his point was really a good one and it's 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.680 one i'd consider too, like it it's quite Yeah, I 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.080 don't want to compare the difficulties we encounter as volunteers 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.320 to the difficulties almost has just encountered, has just kind 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.840 of shared with us in his journey, because they're not 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.440 the same, but like it can be quite different. I 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.120 speak quite a few languages, but still with alge groups 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:28.680 of people who you can't speak to, and do you 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.440 want to connect? You want to be like, what's happening 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.920 to you is it's it's disgusting and disgraceful, and it's 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:38.080 not me. I'm I don't want it to happen, and 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.400 it shouldn't be. And I want to be in community 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.160 with you as much as I can. And so when 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:47.600 we don't have that language, the way that we can connect, 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.240 one of the ways that we can connect is to 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.640 grab a hammer or it screwdriver or something and start 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:55.160 building something. 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:56.160 I love it. I love it. 0:07:56.200 --> 0:08:11.320 You're so right. You're so right, James, you are so uppointed. No, 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:12.520 I mean, you know, it's. 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:17.480 Just seeing that that real Bi drill was like heaven 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.000 to me. I mean, I swear not to give you know, 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:25.040 any brands or whatever. I'm just saying, it's not it's 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.920 not it's not my favorite brand for sure, But but 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.200 but you really really, I mean truly like you guys say, 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:36.720 I mean, it's just such a universal sort of language. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:38.560 Like as men and. 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.440 As women and as people, we want to build, we 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.640 want to protect, we want we want to I mean 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.599 I'm taking this journey to come to my kids and 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:50.440 show them support and safety and protect and it's happening, 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.240 you know right now I'm talking. I was talking to 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.520 them earlier, and you know, they're excited to see their 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:56.120 dad soon. 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.600 And you know, it's just that that feeling of warmth. 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:00.520 And I mean, this is what we do, what we do. 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.960 And then if you want to narrow it down and 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.400 break it down to the basics, it's just what it is. 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.280 It's the human level, it's the human condition. 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.480 I mean really, so these guys are going to go 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.200 through this pain for what I mean, clearly they're going 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.760 through you know, worse, worser things. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.880 And then that's the whole point. That's what they're trying 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:18.120 to do. 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.920 So and then, uh, before I forget and then I 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.120 don't hope, I hope my phone doesn't, you know, die 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:27.319 on me. Let me just give you the detention. If 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.640 you guys have a minute, let me give you yeah. Yeah, 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:34.679 so before I you know, so basically on I think 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:39.480 it was Monday. We we we uh get rounded up 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:45.079 to what is can easily be compared to the cattle 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.680 I wrench cattle kind of process where you know, here 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:54.000 take off your your your belt and everything that's familiar, 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.480 but you know there's a little extra. The bus driver 0:09:56.600 --> 0:10:00.080 is cussing at you like it's nobody's business and and 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.600 and you know, gratuitous humiliation. 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.040 And you know, maybe you have one of them. 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.959 Is nice, but the rest are just you know, absolutely 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.800 want to just tear you down as much as they can. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:16.040 And anyhow, so we're lined up, we're onto this bus 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.959 that's behind the camp closer. 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.760 To Highway eighty I believe Highway eighty, yes, yeah, and 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:23.360 uh uh. 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:29.160 And basically we're lined up, we're tagged, we're uh, basically 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:33.360 stripped of everything that could be quote unquote dangerous. We're 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.880 left with only one shirt in the middle of that 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:41.160 cold morning and uh doesn't matter. A man, doesn't matter, man, women, 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.920 everybody is treated as saying I appreciate their their quality 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:45.880 on that issue. 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:50.839 Uh So, and then we are on a bus journey. 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.640 That's about an hour and a half, maybe two hours 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.880 any more to the uh send. 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.280 I'm trying to remember this very well because it's just, 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.199 you know, it's important. I guess San Diego. 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:08.760 Uh the San Diego Sorting Facility, San Diego District. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:11.679 Sorting Facility, a K A M c U. That's what 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:15.480 we call it. And basically, uh, you know. 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:19.280 Your your stuff is sorted and anything that needs to 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.720 be thrown with a thrown away. And you're given you 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:26.640 become a Let me be clear, you become a subject. 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.640 You're a subject. Now, you're not an alien. You're a subject. James, 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:34.120 make sure you understand this. You're a subject, sir. Let's 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:38.280 be clear about the naming structure. You are a subject. 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:43.680 All right. So I'm given a subject number and yeah, exactly. 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.720 I mean, I can't believe in this day and age, 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.319 I got used to the whole alien thing, you know, 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:54.560 alien number, but now it's a subject number. So anyhow, 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:56.200 so we're done. We're going through that. 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.160 And then you you know, you just look at people and. 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:03.199 The daisiness and confusion and confusion elders, women, babies. 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:05.040 This is heart taking. 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.280 And again you have a couple of military border performance 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.800 toll and acting like they're in the Marine Corps. They're 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.000 just shouting up the right and they're like, you know, 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.959 treating people that they were disposable. 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:17.440 So that's right there. 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:18.360 Uh. 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:22.960 Anyhow, so that's the they call it the intake. So 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.640 you're you're doing the intake, and you're lined up and 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:31.480 you're being stripped, not striptured, searched. You're searched, and then 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:35.200 your your backpack is taking away. You open it up 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:36.720 in front of them as if you were at the airport, 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:38.280 and then they throw away stuff. 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:42.480 That's that, even though they're not what's crazy is there. 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.720 The backpack is going to be zipped and they're gonna 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.080 be tagged and put away. So I'm not sure why 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:53.080 thrown away food from the backpack is going to add 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:54.520 anything or you. 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.320 Know, some things don't make sense, but I guess that's 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.920 what it is. So then you're you're you're done with 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:01.439 the intake. 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:06.640 You sit down inside the central area and you're waiting 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:07.520 to be processed. 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:12.040 Processing means fingerprints, picture. 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.640 And then you're right down they take a copy of 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.960 your passport and in there you write down the address 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:19.839 in which you will be. 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:21.839 Quote unquote released later on. 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:27.560 So that's that, and then basically a couple of hours later, 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:32.320 you're assigned a detention cell. It's not it's a big 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.440 place and it's not a cell like a small cell. 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.360 It's probably I don't know, twenty by I don't know. 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.160 I'm bad with that business. But any of the point 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:45.560 is we're there, we're taking to this place. I don't know, James, 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:46.599 so I don't know what you think of this. So 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:53.840 so they don't put handcuffs on us, but they tell 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.240 you to put your hands behind your back as you're walking. 0:13:58.280 --> 0:13:59.359 Yeah, very strange. 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.199 I don't understand what's the point of that. Like they 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:06.120 insist of putting your hands as if they were handcuffed 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.959 behind your back as you walk. It as as you're walking. 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:13.120 That is a big rule. And if you don't do it, 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:16.439 they get pissed at you. And I'm not gonna at you. 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.520 I'm always testing the water, and I pissed them off 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:19.520 a number of times. 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.440 I did put my hands forward because I'm like, what 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.360 what are you trying to get to? You know? Anyhow, 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.240 so you get into your cell. 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:30.000 Mine was two A right, two A yeah. 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:34.320 Pod. I'm sorry, it's called they called pods pods. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:34.760 because you. 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:40.400 Know we're we're into share what is it work share 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.280 spaces Basically, pods. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:48.600 Said, yeah, we work here, we go, we work. So 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:49.840 we were there, you're. 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:55.440 Giving gym mats gym mats and then you know when 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.720 we when when we all put our gym mats on 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:02.080 the floor. Imagine there is zero space in between, Like 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:06.120 the whole pod is covered with gym mass. Now you 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.520 have to walk on gym mats basically anywhere you go. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.520 All right, So that's that's the fact. And then you're 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.680 giving these what do you call them. There's the not thermos, 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.960 the alloy foil blankets, whatever. 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:20.760 We have blankets. 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.480 Yeah, yeah, thank you. Yeah, those guys, and they do 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.120 kind of work. But for me, they're too small. I mean, 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.240 I guess I'm a tall guy. I mean, I don't know. 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.360 So either your foots are sticking out or your head 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:33.360 is sticking out or whatever. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:34.960 And I'm not the only one. That's a lot of 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:35.480 people like that. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:40.200 So and then AC is blasting full speed twenty four 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:46.400 to seven light, full bright light twenty four seven and yeah, 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.320 and then a lot of you know, again they teach 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.280 this in school and psychology want to want so light 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:56.080 twenty four to seven, AC freezing a c we're only 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.440 allow of the shirt one shirt, one shirt. 0:15:58.840 --> 0:15:59.920 And then I'm. 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:04.720 Talking about probably they have it on fifty five sixty, 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:09.680 sixty sixty, no more than sixty degrees for sure, all right, 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.120 and then you have people cold and getting sick. 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:16.080 And then they cleaned. 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:19.440 Three times a day to their credits where we all 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.080 have to get out so the cleaning crew can come in. 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:23.480 But here's the key. 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:27.320 They clean at eight in the morning, at five in 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.400 the at five in the afternoon, and at midnight. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:32.680 You can't sleep. 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.160 Come on, dude, really seriously. 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:39.480 And God forbid you ask. God forbid you ask, because 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:43.560 that's just not allowed, you know. So midnight, exactly midnight sharp, 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:45.200 get out people. 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.920 Everybody sleep, everybody sleep, get up, get up, get up, 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.600 get out, and there's no again. It's it's it's you know, 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.440 we know these tactics. We read about these This is like, 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.000 you know, torture in a way. You know. I bet 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.760 you somewhere in the Geneva convention there's something about this. 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:01.760 I'm sure. Yeah. 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:05.199 So so, you know, I didn't want to create too 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.919 much drama the first day, James. The second day I 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.400 started testing the water. I'm like, you know, I'm being 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.520 nice to everybody. Nobody speaks English, so I have to 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:14.760 kind of speak up for people. You know, some people 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.160 need to go medicine, I mean, you know, medicine or whatever. 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:19.479 I speak for them whatever. 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:23.200 And then some people are just don't understand when their 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.000 name is called for it because it's misspelled. 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:25.600 So I'll help for. 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.160 That, you know, in general, like you know, I literally 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.400 would walk around and ask for extra blankets and things 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:32.720 like that. 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:33.680 It's all of being doing. 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.760 I hope the video will come out that we're doing 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.320 a few Freedom of Information Act requests, so hopefully we can 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:38.639 get that. 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.439 Yeah, yeah, hopefully we'll share that with you. I mean 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:42.960 it takes. 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.680 I mean they're gonna fight at tooth and nay, they're gonna. 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:46.360 Fight at tooth and nail. 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:52.200 Oh yeah, exactly, thank you, thank you exactly. Sonyhow So, Yeah, 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:53.560 after the second day. 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.560 Again, they give you food, I mean food, I guess food. Yeah, 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:57.320 they give you food. 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:03.000 The second day, I started asking the question, Okay, when 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.840 am I going to get my phone call? The first 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:09.919 person said, oh, I'll pass on to your request. By 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:11.720 the end of the day, I've asked like three four 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:16.600 times to three four different people. So the pods area 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:23.560 is manned supervised by DSS police, and then the processing 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:28.040 in the central area is done by VP and BP 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.960 and Customs and DSS hate each other. I mean, that's 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.760 just clear. They told me that to my face. They 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:35.240 don't get along all right. 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:36.159 Right, So. 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.720 When you were talking to DSS police, because they're the 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:44.520 one kind of the prison guards, they just don't then 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.160 talk to VP, they don't convey the information that you're 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.000 as a prisoner there. 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:50.640 So that's been difficult. 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:54.399 So you would want to ask to go to the 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:56.640 nurse or something, so on the way you can try 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.040 to pass on in flne sony know, so I kind 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.680 of located it to it. And then on the second day, 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.320 I asked three times I need my phone call. 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:07.760 They came out and told me, you're crazy. We don't 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:09.040 do phone calls. Stop asking. 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:14.119 So you're telling me I'm a us soil I you know, 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:17.879 I don't get to see the outdoor twenty four to seven, 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:20.080 and you don't let me make a call to my 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:21.600 lawyer or family. 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:24.360 And that's when I just lost my my ship. So 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.080 that by the end of the second. 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:33.440 Day, I entered into a hunger strike. Wow, my body 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.800 shut yeah, my body shut down completely. My body shut 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:39.080 down completely. People were that that known me to be 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:42.720 constantly active. I do I do yoga, I do I 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:43.399 did yoga. 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:44.000 Did you know? 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.199 People will started following me doing activities and trying to 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:50.919 be sharp. Uh you know, stay sharp. They saw me 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:54.479 shut down completely. I didn't I didn't eat or drink anything. 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:58.200 I mean completely, I shut down everything, all systems of board. 0:19:58.280 --> 0:19:58.680 That's it. 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:03.400 So so right away my eyes are closed. The next 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:05.560 day they start freaking out. 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:07.879 They're bringing the wheelchair. 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:10.320 But before they you know, just to let you know, 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.400 before they put me on the wheelchair with a baton, 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:16.600 they're just hammering me to make sure this is real, 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:17.600 their hammer. 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:19.560 I still have bruises, I still have like a red 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:23.720 dot on my chest, you know what I mean. So 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:26.600 so yeah, I mean, you know, the kindness of their heart. Yeah. 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.960 Again, they're very hateful because of where they are and 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:35.920 what's going on. So yeah, so uh yeah, So I'm 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:39.239 taking to the nurse. The nurse tells me what's going on. 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:42.520 I thought her, Look, my body has shut down. My 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:44.680 wife and kids don't know where I'm at. They don't 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:48.960 know if I'm live or death or dead, and I 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:53.320 just can't eat or drink or anything. Listen, sir, it's 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:54.919 okay if you don't want to eat, but you have 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.400 to drink well at least water, or we're gonna put 0:20:57.400 --> 0:20:59.879 the IV. We can give you IV or medical or untie, 0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:04.280 the presence or anti anxiety medicine. Listen, lady, I've never 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.159 had them time at the present, or medication. I rarely 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:10.280 take medication. I would not have medication. That is not 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:12.679 an option. I don't want the IVY. I don't want 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:13.520