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He's 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:37.120 your favorite Number eighty five, the newest member into the 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:40.600 Cincinnati Bengals Ring of Honor, Chad o. 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:42.240 Jo Cinco Johnson. 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.240 God, you got the sunglasses on, so I know it 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.200 wasn't real, but I know you cried me a real 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:48.320 Oh justin Timberlake. 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:50.040 Oh, justin Timberlake. 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:53.000 I trust me. I didn't cry. But I'm feeling good. Listen, 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:53.840 I'm happy. 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:55.920 Let us y, let me see YI right quick. 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.520 Oh yeah, you cried, you cried, You cried in the car, 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:01.000 but you're trying to call. 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:04.720 I walked to the stadium. I walked to the stam 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:06.600 and I walked back here because I want to be 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:08.400 I wanted to be amongst the people. I wanted to 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:10.519 be among the people. Yeah, I want to be amongst 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:12.880 the people. And I wanted to feel that the love 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:16.080 that I have missed for over a decade and some change. 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.000 And that's exactly what it was. I had my kids 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.120 walk with me, had had the missus walking with me, 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:24.440 had too came out to support me. Man, really, man, listen, 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.080 that felt good, man, That felt good to have my 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:30.359 family with me, and then my extended family, my extended 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.800 family of eighty thousand out there screaming that name here 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.200 and at Oho, just the same way you explained it yesterday. 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:38.680 You you go into the Ring of Honor with a 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.720 former a colleague of mine, Boomer Sassin. 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.360 So tell me what what was that moment? 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:48.760 Like you walking down as the half is about to end, 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.120 you and your family and your your family and friends. 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:54.320 You start to walk down and now all of a 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.560 sudden you're on the field and you start to get 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.960 a little quil like, oh man, this thing about to happen. 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:00.960 Yeah. 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:06.120 Yeah, you know what I kept thinking about happy thoughts 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:08.040 and what I tried not to do. I tried not 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.360 to go back to everything it took to get to 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.440 this point, because if I thought about everything it took 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.680 to get to this point, as far as making it 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.640 too and getting that phone call from Mike Brown, and 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.919 then all the ups and down throughout my career, then 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.840 the tears would have started flowing. I thought, happy thoughts. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:27.720 I kept looking at my kids, I kept looking at 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:31.000 the crowd, the focus and keep my keep myself locked 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.520 in so I don't cry. But that moment, I took 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.560 it all and I enjoyed it. You only get one 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:37.640 of them, You only get one of them, You only 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:39.880 get one of them, and man, I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:41.280 save it that moment, man, forever. 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:43.560 I'm surprised. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.480 I also, knowing how close you were to your mom 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.280 and grandmother and how special it would have been had 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:53.160 they been there, your mind just for a second, didn't 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.000 go there as a damn I wish mama. 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.200 I purposely stayed away from that. I'm just telling you 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:04.960 I was was able to come compartmentalize mama everything else 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.120 that was bad the journey to get to this point, 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:11.560 happy thoughts. Steer in the crowd, make eye contact one purpose, 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.320 one person in the crowd, and stay on that. You know, 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:15.800 I I did. I didn't want to do it. I did. 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:17.839 I didn't want to break down in that moment. Even 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.320 though it would have been tears of joy, it would 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.640 have been tears of sadness because I'm thinking about my mama, 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:24.360 not here. I'm thinking about my grandma not here. Now, 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:26.520 what's gonna happen behind closed doors? When I get back 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:29.200 to Miami tomorrow. Guess where I'm going with my ring 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.960 on the jacket. I'm going to the graveyard. They they 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:33.640 buried right next to each other. So when I had 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.600 that moment with them, let them let them see their baby. 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.400 Hold on, hold on, well you almost caught me. Hold on, 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:41.200 hold on, hold on. 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:44.040 You see that baby, Mama, granted I did it. 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.120 Yeah, let me get back right, Let me get back right. 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:48.960 You almost got me, You got me. Let me stop 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.279 talking about that. But yeah, mom, I had that moment 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.920 with them tomorrow. I had that moment with them tomorrow, man, 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.359 and they deserve it. So says they couldn't be here. 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.080 I'm gonna go ahead and bring it to them. 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:00.560 You going to them? 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.680 The Bengals, Okay, you guys win nineteen sixteen, a very 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:07.440 hard fall ball game. Joe Burrow's dealing with that calf injury. 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.320 Thirty one pass attempts in the first half, forty nine 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.960 attempts for the game. Yeah, is your I are your 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:15.000 Bengals back? 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.240 My Bengals are back. They're not back and not efficient 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.760 is what we're used to seeing. But this is the start. 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.120 This is the start. I told you something about the Bengals. 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.520 We always start zering too, all the time. 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:26.920 All the time. 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:31.400 I think. I think statistically, Chase is not where he 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.680 wants to be. Joe knows he's not where he wants 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.920 to be because of two slow starts. Obviously, we're used 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.160 to putting up big numbers, even though they were losses 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.280 most of the time at the beginning of the seasons. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.760 But this is a start. This is a confidence building 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:47.279 for us offensively, it's a confidence builder for us defensively, 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.560 and I think it's a foundation on something that we 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.400 can start off and keep on making a run, you know, 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.039 through the rest of the season, especially what it's having 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:56.800 two losses already in AFC North. 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.440 Since that is not going three straight games, three games 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.720 in a row without scoring a first half touchdown? 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:06.680 Is that concerning for you? It's not concerned. It's all 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.680 about that. It's all about us offensively starting fast. And 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:13.360 I'm sure Zach and that offensive offensive coordinator they will 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.480 they will get in in that field room and find 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.040 out what works best for them. Again, I think when 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:23.000 you change your tendencies. When you change your tendencies and 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.920 what teams know you're going to do because they've had 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:29.560 so much success offensively, I think teams are ready. They're 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:31.560 ready for everything they've seen. They're ready for the new 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.520 wrinkles that you do throw at them. So change the 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.560 tendencies a little bit. If if, if you if, if 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:37.720 you know him for running on first down, let's throw 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.760 let's let's let's let's uh, let's throw the first If 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:42.120 you know him for running on first down, you know, 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.280 just just little stuff like that, just change it up 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:45.480 so you're not so predictable. 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:51.400 How much is Joe burrow mobility impacting what this offense 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.760 can do? Because we know Joe, Joe is a guy 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.200 that can rely on his legs, he can get outside 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.400 make plays, not only throwing the ball but also running 0:06:59.400 --> 0:06:59.720 the ball. 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.480 How much of its mobility has hampered this offense? 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:08.159 I think it's hampered it a little bit. Is hampered 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.600 a little bit, But I'll take a seventy percent Joe 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:17.440 Burrow over other NFL teams quarterbacks quarterback at I'm just 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:21.280 saying because Joe is poised. He's a pocket passer first, 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.120 and he runs when he has to correct, not just 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:26.280 to be not just to be doing so. So the 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.960 fact that he is hampered, he's still great at being 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.800 a pocket passer, and with minimal movement he can still 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:33.400 be very efficient from the pocket. 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:38.000 I thought your defense played really well last tonight when 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.480 you look at it. The Rams got into the red 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.880 zone a bunch, but you made them settle for field goals. 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.440 Bill go gets your beat touchdowns when you games wins 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.600 your championships. So I was really pressed with Hendrix, and 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.840 those guys were able to get off the field even 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.559 though the Rams consistently found themselves in your red zone. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:55.440 They did. 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.160 This is what you call the definition of a bend. 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:01.160 But don't break defense. We're gonna let you in. You're 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:02.960 on fire. Wrinkle, you gonna get a wrinkle here. We'll 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:04.480 let you get We'll let you get in here. But 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.280 once you get to this certain part an area in 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:11.160 our territory, in the field, in the red zone, that's it. 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.720 And it's just in a testament to the difficulty and 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:15.560 how difficult it is for teams once you get in 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:17.960 the team's red zone. On how hard he is a score. 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.400 It's very difficult to score. But you only have so 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.320 much space to work with, and there's only so much 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:23.720 you can do and call right. 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:25.920 And so if the guy makes a mistake because there's 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:27.200 there's limited space. 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:27.960 He can make up for it. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:32.240 Oh yeah, the other game of the night the Eagles 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.160 in the Bucks twenty five eleven. If I'm not mistaken, 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.160 that might have been the first time in NFL history 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.800 that a game is ended twenty five to eleven. The 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:44.000 Eagles four hundred and seventy two yards held Tampa one 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:47.240 hundred and seventy four yards one by fourteen on the road, 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.960 kept the ball for almost ten minutes to end the 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:51.560 ball game. 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:53.679 Esez, I don't know how much of that. 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:55.600 I know you saw a little bit of this ball game, 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:58.360 but what was what was kind of your takeaway? The 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.359 Eagles twenty five eleven over the Bucks. 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.080 Listen, it was hard for me to watch the game 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.560 in his in his totality to be able to really 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.280 give an assessment, a fair assessment on how the game went. 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.160 But I was hoping. I was hoping, I'm just gonna 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.240 be honest, I was hoping that Baker could pull a 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.960 game like this off because I haven't heard the praise, 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:20.880 the praise for Baker for what he's been able to 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:22.840 do with the Bucks and his start. 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:23.439 What are you doing? 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.920 What was their record, Shannon? What were the Bucks record 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:30.439 when last year. 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:32.560 They won the division? 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:37.480 No, I'm talking about Okay, yes, that's that's a good start, 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.640 you know, because that was because the Baker Mayfield and 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.560 what he's been doing offensively as a quarterback. I can 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.920 tell you. But again, the Eagles came The Eagles came 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:46.920 away with this game. It was it was, it was 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:48.679 a good game. But I just think the Bucks were 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:52.600 out matched offensively, they were out matched defensively. And obviously 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:55.800 Eagles are polished. They're very polished that they're a playoff team. 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.920 They are contended this year, and they did exactly what 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:00.719 they needed to do to come out and win a 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:02.439 game against a team that they should be. 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:04.920 Yeah, I thought the Eagles. 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:06.400 I mean, when you look at it, they did win 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.280 by two scores, they won by fourteen. But I still 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:11.480 think the Eagles got another gear they can play with. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:15.199 Hurts hurt even though they won by fourteen. If you 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:19.120 watch this game, Hurts had some costly turnovers that really 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:22.719 hurt his team. And I mean he was trying to 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.120 get the ball to AJ and AJ had a good game. 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.320 Drop the touchdown he probably wish you had back. But 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:33.400 I'm still I'm still not I know Jalen Hurts has 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.720 another level and just because I saw it last year 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:38.080 that he can get to that. 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:39.520 He's not quite there yet. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.160 He's not quite there yet. But this is what I 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:45.679 love about the beginning of the season. You got to 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:47.719 get the rust out, you got to get the cowboys out. 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.160 The fact that players don't plan in the preseason, and 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.720 I think this is a testament to how important the 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.360 preseason is to get your cham down, to get your 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:59.320 timing down, to get that timing down, especially the reps. 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.280 I think people people the casual I don't want to 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.960 be rude, the casual fan that watches the game. When 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:09.040 that watches the game, what you see on Sundays is 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.520 very much different than what we do in practice. You 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:14.280 can run and practice three hundred and sixty five days 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.360 a year. When you get into that game, nothing is 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:20.400 the same. It's completely different. It's completely different feeling and 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:22.600 I don't even know how to explain it. It's just 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:26.400 completely different, which is why reseason is so important. But 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.440 he's going to be the more games they play. Person 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.079 is gonna get into that rhythm and that magic you 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:33.760 talking about that he showed last year. 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.280 There's something that happens in a game that doesn't happen 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:41.800 in practice. It's called adrenaline. It's called that that fight 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.160 of flight, that fear of failure in the game, and 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.520 you don't know these guys, and it's like, but I've 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.120 always felt that practice for me was harder than the 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.520 game because I'm going up against a guy that I've 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.000 been going up against in practice for three four years. 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.600 He knows all my moves, you know, release, he knows. 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:01.400 All your okay shop. I see you at the top 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.040 of the numbers, all I know what you're about to do. 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:05.920 You had open that split up. I know you're about 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.600 to run this bang on me. So when I get 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.920 to the game, yeah, he's watching tape, but he doesn't 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.760 know the nuances of a guy that sees me every 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.480 day in practice. So I really felt that if I 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.560 could beat the guys in practice that I had gone 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.400 up against every day two three four years, the game 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.160 was gonna be relatively easy for me. But like we 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:31.359 talked about earlier in a couple of episodes, OJO preseason 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.000 was so important for me to get my breathing down, 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:37.320 to get my timing down, get my rhythm down. I 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:42.680 needed to get my spidery sense in tingling for Yeah. 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.600 Yeah, I needed that now. I told you, I told you, 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.960 I told you before. Obviously my pissed Marvin off a 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:51.600 few times, you know, having the call time out to 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.920 get me out of the preseason game before before I 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.760 helped myself before I hurt myself. And I told Marv, 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:58.880 I say, Mark, you understand how important this is to 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:00.959 me to get my time time and down, to get 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.920 that rhythm in chemistry, you know with Carson, and he 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.800 just he wasn't going for it. But I really needed 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:10.040 I think I still think to this day Marvel Lewis 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.560 didn't understand the importance and how much priests it meant 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.640 to me because a lot of players, the veterans, didn't 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:15.880 want to do it. They didn't want to do it, 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:16.800 they felt they didn't need it. 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.240 I needed it. I needed it. 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.280 I am because me it was all about breathing. It's 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:24.520 about about steps. It's about you know, finding your way 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.320 like in dep am I gonna rip? 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:28.640 Am? I? How am I gonna get? 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.520 Just working on a little small stuff Jalen Hurts has 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:35.240 not rushed for twenty nine has twenty nine career touchdowns, 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:38.000 passing Cam Newton for the most rush TVs by quarterback 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:38.920 in his first. 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:40.520 Fifty career games. 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:43.840 What did you see from Jalen hurt Because the guy 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.439 that came in mainly and we understood and we respected 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:50.280 his legs. But although he is still a tremendous runner, 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.400 he's become a very very good thrower of the football. 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:54.680 You know what. 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:58.720 That makes it very dig difficult for defensive coordinators because 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.320 what you're gonna do with him, you can spire him 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.040 and then you put a spy on him. You know 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:04.719 what that means. That means somebody else is going to 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:05.080 be open. 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:08.040 Yeah, I mebody coverage. Somebody else got. 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.160 One on one coverage. And the fact that he has 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:15.000 the weaponry he has at his disposal, they're going to, oh, 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.400 they're going to always be a mismatch. So you have 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:19.960 to pick your poison defensively, you want to spy hm 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:23.160 or you just want to drop everybody back and he 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.560 could beat you with your leg with his legs. It's 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.080 on you, So pick your poison. You want to die 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.280 fast or you want to die slow. Either way, you're 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.200 gonna die. 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:35.760 You know what I like most about Jayleen Hurst because 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.400 but it just goes to show you that no matter 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.560 where you start at, if you work at something, you 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.720 can get incrementally better. Because if you look at the 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.600 maturation that Jalen Hurst has gone through from the time 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.640 that he got in, you can see he's a much 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.440 better throw of the football. So that's when I say, 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.440 when guys up, you watch a guy and you're like, man, 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.840 he hadn't gotten any better since his rookie year, from 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:01.920 his second year to his third year. As a matter 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.480 of fact, that tells me now there's a difference between 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:07.840 habit and hard work, because a lot of times people 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.120 think because they do something over and over they're working hard, 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:14.080 that's habit, right, Jalen Hurts has worked hard and he's 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.720 made himself a very good throw of the football. I'm 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.120 not saying he's ever gonna be Aaron Rodgers, but he's 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.400 a better throw of the football. He's a more dangerous quarterback, 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:24.520 a more complete quarterback than what he was when he 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:25.280 ended the league. 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.120 I have a question in the fact that you said 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:31.360 that I think all quarterbacks work hard. I think all 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.920 quarterbacks work hard because in order to get to this 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.720 level and in order to reach the pinnacle of success 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.360 in being one of the one percenters in the world, 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:41.640 to make it to the NFL and play a particular position, 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.360 we are the commander and the leader of a team, 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.280 you have to work hard at it. Yeah, But I 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:51.520 think what Jalen has is he has a great supporting 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.960 cast at his disposable, at his disposal, and in fact, 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.600 he is great himself and working to be great. So 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:02.160 it's it's magnified that much more better on the work 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:05.000 that he's put in. I think the other quarterbacks where 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.080 they fail at is they putting the work and He's 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.760 doing everything they can to be better, but they don't 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:14.880 have the tools around them to allow that work present 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:18.320 itself when the lights are on. If that makes sense. 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:19.640 Let me ask you a question. 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:21.720 If I gave you, if I gave you a two 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:25.200 hundred piece toolbox, Yes, sir, if they fixed our car, 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:30.280 what you're gonna do two hundred piece two other piece toolbox? 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:31.360 If they fix this. 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:34.520 Car, what you're gonna do, I'm gonna fix it. 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.760 Sometimes you just don't know what the hell you're doing. 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:39.840 It doesn't matter the tools that you're working with, don't 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:41.640 you other At some point in time you would have 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:42.680 to come to that conclusion. 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.240 I know you keep saying, give all this and all that. 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:51.040 Hey, Jameis Winston had those same tools that Tom Brady 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.560 had that he took to the Super Bowl after they 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.560 missed the playoffs, and James threw thirty two. 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:03.359 And he had excuse me, okay, thirty three touchdown three 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:09.640 thirty three touchdowns, thirty interceptions. Right right, you're right, You're right, 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.320 You're right. But I don't like the comparison because we 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.680 talked about the greatest. We talked about the greatest quarterback 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:19.959 of all time, but the great and Jameis Winston is 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:21.040 a good quarterback. 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:25.359 Yeah, but I'm saying, but you've seen situations where guys 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:29.840 come in and for whatever reason, guys will rally around, 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:32.000 guys will play, will make slaves. 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:34.280 Why you didn't make that. 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:35.360 Play for you? 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.119 Right? You can't some things you just can't offer an 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:40.080 explanation for. Right. 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:43.760 I think, I think individuals. I think the difference in 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:49.680 quarterbacks to me, and it's it's up here. It's up here. 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:54.720 Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes. The process that not 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.479 only do they believe they have the skill set, they 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.479 had the arm strength. But here they be and everybody 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.680 up here they know what you're doing before you even 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.679 do it. Yes, they know. They're seeing it before it 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:08.639 even happens. And the game, the game to them is 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.920 so slow. Yes, and you know exactly what I'm talking about. 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.240 When you was in what every year it may be 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.640 when you when you hitting, when you're hitting your stride, 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:20.760 it was so slow it guess in slow motion. That's 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:23.600 when you know you locked in. And it's something. It's 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:28.320 something man, Listen, Shannon, when it when you own, when 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:29.800 you own, you know the year you had when you 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:34.320 was owned on your own, Yeah, and every and everything 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:36.840 is going in slow motion and it's like and you're 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.120 seeing it before it even happened. And I think that's 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.760 what Peyton Manning had, Tom Brady had, and they had 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:43.840 it consistently year in and year out. 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.239 Yeah, you know what, but it takes a you we 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.960 talk about these upper tier, upper level quarterbacks, we talk 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:56.080